Episode 5235: Grassroots Fight Back Against RINO Candidates

Summary

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Bannon's War Room – Episode 5235: Grassroots Fight Back Against RINO Candidates

Date: March 21, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode focuses on growing grassroots resistance within the Republican Party against so-called “RINO” (Republican In Name Only) candidates, exploring current primary battles, the influence of MAGA-aligned voters, debates over policy direction, and the intersection of domestic and international issues facing the conservative movement.

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Overview

Stephen K. Bannon leads a fast-paced, issue-packed Saturday episode, highlighting political insurgencies in Republican primaries, the push for election integrity, the confrontation between grassroots activists and establishment GOP leaders, and urgent debates over technology, war, healthcare, and US national security. Featured guests include campaign advisors, Senate Republicans, tech policy experts, and authors spotlighting U.S.-China tensions and the moral stakes of current politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Grassroots vs. GOP Establishment: Texas & South Carolina (00:53–09:06)

Texas – Paxton vs. Cornyn

• Polling Momentum: Steve Bannon highlights new polling showing Attorney General Ken Paxton with a strong lead over Senator John Cornyn, attributed to negative ads backfiring and increasing MAGA base loyalty.
• Quote: “The more Cornyn puts out this money for these negative ads, really trying to destroy Ken Paxton, the more the grassroots base and the MAGA base turns against him.” – Steve Bannon (02:26)

South Carolina – Graham’s Vulnerability

• Lindsey Graham Under Pressure: Recent polls reveal Graham is below 50%, risking a June 9 runoff.
• Guest Insight: Paul Dans (campaign advisor) asserts that local dissatisfaction is peaking:
  • “The number one thing that people will say about Lindsay is bless his heart, but it’s time for him to go... this primary runoff... is inevitable.” (06:36)
• Problem for Incumbents: Voters attach Senate inaction and lack of “America First” priorities to long-serving incumbents like Graham and Cornyn.

Primary System Dynamics

• Runoff Mechanics: South Carolina’s rules mean candidates under 50% face a runoff, giving grassroots challengers an opening as MAGA coalesces.
• Prediction: “In a runoff, the grassroots, the separation becomes real. The grassroots has one person to focus on...” (07:30)

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2. Senate Debates: Election Integrity, Border Security & Save America Act (09:34–25:33)

John Thune & Senate Republicans (09:34–13:25)

• Election Security: Thune decries Democratic opposition to photo ID voter requirements and stricter citizenship verification.
  • “Only citizens ought to vote in American elections... it’s overwhelmingly popular with the American people.” – John Thune (09:37)
• Border Security: References to “10 million illegal immigrants” and Democrats accused of prioritizing open borders.

Real-Time Legislative Battles

• Weekend Showdown: Tuberville pushing amendments on sports and transgender issues; Republicans preparing for protracted debates and filibusters.
• Behind the Scenes: GOP Senators (Mike Lee, et al.) pushing for rare “standing filibuster” and substantial legislative test—first attempt in decades.

Emphasis on Voter ID & Election Law

• Bannon’s Framing: “President Trump... keeps hammering: voter ID and no mail-in ballots.” (25:05)

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3. China, Technology Threats, Espionage, & AI Policy (26:02–46:40)

China’s Strategic Aggression

• Espionage Highlight: Jan Jekielek details Chinese Communist Party (CCP) acquiring advanced Nvidia chips via U.S. front company, warning of national security implications.
• Quote: “The CCP is the mack daddy of bad guys.” – Steve Bannon (26:44)
• AI as a Threat Vector: Jan argues U.S. is giving away its AI advantage too easily, risking CCP dominance—“If China under the Communist Party runs AI... we’re going to have the worst kind of mindset.” (28:11)

Tech Oligarchs and U.S. Policy

• “Suicide Mission?” Bannon questions the collusion between U.S. tech titans and Chinese interests, calling it “a suicide mission.” (27:54)

“Kill to Order” – Book Release

• Jan Jekielek’s Book: Exposes CCP’s depravity—forced organ harvesting, tech ambitions, global impact.
• Push for Awareness: “We have to understand who we’re really dealing with. And this is what this book explains.” – Jan Jekielek (29:08)

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4. AI Governance Showdown: White House vs. GOP (34:38–46:40)

National Policy Framework (“Tech Amnesty”)

• Joe Allen's Breakdown: The Biden administration’s newly released framework is described as a handout to Big Tech, offering immunity over liability, copyright, and free speech for AI systems rather than humans.
• Key Critique: “It is a transhuman future... they want to build machines that replace your work.” – Joe Allen (49:22)

Preemption and State Rights

• States explicitly cut out, with federal preemption recommended—a reversal of the “federalism” conservatives often seek.

Republican Counterpoints

• Mark Beale on Contrasting Proposals: GOP Senator Marsha Blackburn offers a detailed 291-page children’s protection/AI bill, while the White House proposal is “a head-scratcher.”
• Duty of Care: “We cannot become China to beat China. That's unacceptable. We have to figure out the American way.” – Mark Beale (45:39)

Broader Theme

• Central Battle: Technology governance, AI personhood, and American identity. Bannon: “The real fight for control of this country... is right here.” (46:17)

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5. Medicare & Healthcare Advocacy (13:25–21:01)

Chapters (Medicare Advisors)

• Kobe Bloomfield Gans explains misaligned Medicare incentives and pitches his company’s “honest broker” approach to saving Americans money.
• Testimonial Highlight: “Gloria from Florida saved $2,100 just on her prescriptions.” (16:02)
• Motivation: “It’s not actually illegal to do what's right for the consumer. You just don’t do that.” – Kobe Bloomfield Gans (17:47)

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6. U.S. Military—Middle East Tensions & Grassroots Patriotism (51:47–54:49)

Immediate Tensions

• Special Operations on Standby: Marine and Naval task forces moving toward Iran's Carg Island, with the potential for direct action against nuclear material.
• Military Voices: Concerns about “another endless war”—most troops not enthusiastic about escalation. “Most of the guys I talk to are not enthusiastic... most guys voted for no more wars.” (53:37)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "This is the primal scream of a dying regime." – Steve Bannon (00:03)
• “The more Cornyn puts out... negative ads... the more the grassroots base... turns against him.” – Steve Bannon (02:26)
• "It's time for [Lindsey Graham] to go." – Paul Dans (06:36)
• "Only citizens... ought to vote in American elections." – John Thune (09:37)
• “It is a transhuman future... they want to build machines that replace your work.” – Joe Allen (49:22)
• “We cannot become China to beat China. That's unacceptable.” – Mark Beale (45:39)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Texas/South Carolina Primaries: 00:53–09:06
• Senate Save America Act & Election Law: 09:34–25:33
• China/AI/Book Discussion: 26:02–34:15
• AI Policy Debate: 34:38–46:40
• Medicare/Healthcare: 13:25–21:01
• U.S. Military/Iran Escalation: 51:47–54:49

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Memorable Moments

• Primal Scream Open: Bannon’s opening—“This is the primal scream of a dying regime” (00:03)—sets a defiant tone.
• Insistence on Grassroots Power: “The separation becomes real. The grassroots has one person to focus on.” (07:30)
• Tech Policy Showdown: Joe Allen’s warning about “a profoundly anti-human” policy approach was both dramatic and central to the episode’s message on technology.

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Resources & Calls to Action

• Jan Jekielek’s “Kill to Order”: killtoorder.com (Book on CCP crimes and AI)
• Mark Beale: @Arkbeal on X (Twitter) | TheAIPN.org
• Joe Allen: humansfirst.com | jobot.xyz
• Chapters (Medicare): Call 845-WAR-ROOM for advice
• Grassroots Campaigns: Find candidates at pauldans.com

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Summary:
This episode vividly captures the ongoing insurgency within the GOP, as grassroots forces challenge entrenched establishment figures, push for “America First” policies, and elevate election integrity, anti-CCP sentiment, and technology governance as front-line issues. With candid, sharp-edged debates and unapologetic rhetoric, Bannon and guests paint a picture of a Republican Party in transformation and a nation at a crossroads on war, technology, and sovereignty.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot.

All these networks lying about the people,

the people have had a belly full of it.

I know you don't like hearing that.

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

It's going to happen.

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

Saturday 21st March year Valor 2026 first day of spring. Spring. Was that the vernal equinox? Do I have that right? First day of spring. Really want to thank Eric Bolling and I want to thank Captain Fennell particularly for giving us a great update situation report, the best situation reports on this war and the complexity of it and make sure we stay focused on through the fog of war, what's important. We'll get back more of that later in the show. Also tomorrow,

[Steve Bannon]

for the duration of this

[Stephen K. Bannon]

conflict, we'll be doing a Sunday show at the same time we do our Beloved Saturday Show, 10am to 12 noon Eastern Daylight Time to get updates on everything that's going on. Tomorrow we are going to do a little bit on Diego Garcia. As you remember, we made that a big deal as eventually Starmer and the British realized it was a big deal. And now this war going on, it's a very big deal. And it took a the Iranians are trying to take it out with a ballistic missile. Last night Cleo Pascal would join us, Ben Harnwell from Rome. We're going to have a tremendous show tomorrow morning. Already, I can tell you, domestic politics in Texas, huge issue with the school choice situation. We're going to get more into that the first couple of days this week with people from Texas talking about it. Also at cpac, I'm a carve out some time that we got to get our hands around this. Exactly. Because so many people in the conservative movement and MAGA have been so pro school choice. We gotta really think this thing through, particularly given this court ruling yesterday.

[Steve Bannon]

But ken Paxton now two polls in

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Texas, Ken Paxton's up 16 against Cornyn and 118 against Cornyn. The other, as I predicted, that there's just no way the more Cornyn puts out this Money for these negative ads really trying to destroy Ken Paxton, the more the grassroots base and the MAGA base turns against him. It's just a, it's pretty ugly and pathetic. But I told you the math would turn here. And the math is now turning. And we'll have more on that on Monday and Tuesday. South Carolina, we had Noel Frisch, a friend that showed National File. Noel, also besides running National File, which a great little news operation is also advising the candidate Lynch, Mark lynch down in South Carolina.

[Steve Bannon]

But and they commissioned this poll with

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mark Mitchell and the great, great team Oversimos and it was a thousand respondents of likely voters. I mean, this is a real poll.

[Steve Bannon]

And as we told you, over time,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

it's just the law of political physics was going to catch up with Lindsey Graham. There's just too much over the top. You know, he and Levin and these guys just too over the top. And Lindsey's actually, Graham is just, you know, beclown himself going on TV talking about perpetuity defense deals with the Saudis. But they got to get in the fight. I mean, it's just, it's very scary to have especially when the world is watching all of this.

[Steve Bannon]

Vishbur joins us.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Vish, a former producer of the War Room, one of our original producers back in the old days, also the producer.

[Steve Bannon]

I think I can say this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

As much as Matt Gaetz is a star and we love Matt Gaetz. Vishborough made the Matt Gaetz show as

[Steve Bannon]

producer, the original launching producer, a big hit. Vish, you certainly know how to produce. You're actually, you're working for Paul, dan's of Project 2025, a great friend of the show.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Paul's also in the race down there. You're working with him.

[Steve Bannon]

I don't want to really get into

[Stephen K. Bannon]

the candidates who really didn't get into Mark lynch yesterday too much when Noel was here.

[Steve Bannon]

It's just that this, this poll was done.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I realize you guys didn't commission it, but Rasmussen don't. And this thing is now out.

[Steve Bannon]

It's pretty shocking that Lindsey Graham with the Senate Leadership Fund in back of him and President Trump's already, he's already endorsed him. Unlike the Cornyn situation.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He's already endorsed Lindsey.

[Steve Bannon]

And look, the reality is President Trump's

[Stephen K. Bannon]

close to Lindsay, he likes him and he takes his advice for both good and bad.

[Steve Bannon]

I happen to think it's bad, but

[Stephen K. Bannon]

there's other people around the president think it's good, but Lindsey Graham's below 50%. You guys are hurtling towards I think

[Steve Bannon]

it's April primary and I believe the

[Stephen K. Bannon]

rules in South Carolina, he's got to get over 50% he go to runoff.

[Mike Lindell]

How?

[Steve Bannon]

I mean these numbers shock me, but

[Stephen K. Bannon]

you do this for a living.

[Steve Bannon]

Walk us through just the math in this poll.

[Paul Dans]

Well, what you're seeing, Steve, right now is the dissatisfaction of South Carolina voters with Lindsey Graham. The first thing that most of these voters, when we approach them on the ground, the question they ask is where the hell is Lindsey? So a lot of the extenuating circumstances on the ground are working to against Lindsey Graham. As the war continues in Iran and God forbid the death toll goes up of US Soldiers, that's going to work against Lindsey's numbers. As the gas prices tick up at the rate that we're seeing now, that's going to work against Lindsey's numbers. And I've traveled all over the state with Paul. We're doing hundreds of events. The number one thing that people will say about Lindsay is bless his heart, but it's time for him to go. The guy is saying all sorts of crazy things on tv. And so what you're seeing in these numbers is that the primary runoff that's going to happen on June 9 is inevitable. The same thing that you saw in Texas with Paxton and Cornyn is exactly what's going to happen here in South Carolina. The reason being that voters here are tired of the Senate. The, the lack of productivity out of the Senate, the lack of prioritization of the people's needs here in America out of the Senate. And they are attaching that to folks like Lindsey Graham, to folks like John Cornyn. And these guys who run Buddy Buddy are around the retirement home that we call the Senate. And so Lindsey's numbers are going to dwindle no matter what there is, everything is working against him. This is a fight for second. And so we have, so Paul, Dan's, his momentum is rising. We haven't even spent any money in this campaign as of yet. We're actually dropping a big digital buy as of tomorrow that's going to work on basically increasing his name ID across the state. You're going to see his numbers surge there. Lynch is running his campaign, but this is a fight to set to the second place because the June 9 primary runoff in South Carolina is inevitable,

[Steve Bannon]

which is by the way, really quick, really relatively quick after the, after the first round, unlike Texas. But you're just before bounce your theory. The case is that cornyn, as another 24 year old, 24 year incumbent couldn't, couldn't get it done in the first round in a runoff, the grassroots, the separation becomes real. The grassroots has one person to focus on. They can get around it. They see everything that these senators have been doing to block really the MAGA movement and really block President Trump. And that comes to the forefront in the case of Lindsey Graham. Isn't he just going to say, hey, look, the reason I wasn't here and

[Stephen K. Bannon]

going around to these small town halls

[Steve Bannon]

and maybe things I should have done, I'm helping President Trump win the war in the Middle East. What's gonna be that? What's gonna. What do you think the, not the response to the candidates. What do you think the general response of these great patriots in South Carolina? Cause you know, South Carolina's got a very strong participation in the military, sir.

[Paul Dans]

Well, the questions that these folks are gonna ask is, I get it that you haven't been around in these town halls, at these little meetings and everything. You haven't shown up here. But, but not only do you go to show up bi weekly to Israel or you go and your buddy buddy with the sheikhs in Saudi Arabia, but you're going there with checks. They complain about the 200 billion and the billions we send to Ukraine. Wait until the 200 billion on the Iran supplemental hits the waves. That's going to also hit Lindsey like a brick.

[Steve Bannon]

Vish, Vish, hang on real quick. We got to go to John Thune.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He's giving an impromptu press conference.

[Steve Bannon]

Where do people go to file the campaign?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This country?

[Paul Dans]

Go to Dan's four Senate at the on X and go to pauldance.com p u a p a u l d a n s dot com follow us. Send us your tens and twenties.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Let's go to Thune.

[John Thune]

10 million illegal immigrants flooded into this country while Joe Biden was president and the Democrats were in charge of the Senate. And now Democrats want to make it easier for them to have an influence in our elections in the United States. I believe only citizens of this country ought to vote in American elections. And I believe you need to show and prove you are who you say you are with a photo ID in order to vote. It's common sense. You have to show a photo ID to board a plane to buy a beer. Why not to vote? It's overwhelmingly popular with the American people. They agree you need to show a photo ID in order to vote. You know the Save America act that we're talking about here and have been through the week on the floor of the United States Senate it is the only way that we can make sure we have safe and secure elections that reflect the viewpoints of the American people. But what the Democrats are doing, they are standing with the extreme minority who say you shouldn't have to show a photo id. They're also standing with the extreme minority that don't believe we need a Department of Homeland Security because they continue to vote to keep it closed. Every one of them is now on the record. The Democrats in the United States Senate are standing on the side of open borders and illegal voters. Senator Lankford.

[Steve Bannon]

So this is the challenge that we face today. We have Department of Homeland Security closed right now because apparently my Democratic colleagues are more afraid of ICE than they are of Iran and the challenges that we face now in the conflict internationally that we know that we have threats back in the homeland. But my Democratic colleagues in the Senate just refuse to even pay attention to that at all. Stacked on top of that is the issue we've been talking about for weeks. And we're still working through this weekend to be able to negotiate. And that is the most basic thing in America in life voting. The 1965 Voting Rights act begins with all citizens. This should not be controversial. It is already federal law that requires only citizens vote in the United States.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

They're going to give us an update momentarily and we're going to go back to I want to thank Real America's Voice. We're going to blow. We're going to blow this break. We're going to go back to the Senate in a moment.

[Steve Bannon]

They're going to kick off a weekend debate on this Senator Tuberville and we're going to cover a stream.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It Real America's Voice is going to be in it.

[Steve Bannon]

I'll be dipping in and out during the day. Tuberville, Senator Tuberville, friend of the show, is going to put up his amendment. They're going to vote on that for for no men and women's sports and then transgender surgery.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I think tomorrow afternoon they're going to debate this throughout the day. And so we're going to get marching orders.

[Steve Bannon]

What people what I'm hearing is that this is going to be a grind through the weekend.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is not performative. It's just not a messaging bill. But we'll understand all that here momentarily. It may take it'll be into next week, I think. I think there may be some votes called. But my understanding from Jenny, Beth and Cleta and other people working on this,

[Steve Bannon]

Neil McCabe is that behind the scenes, Mike Lee and these Say, hey, look, this hasn't been done in 50, 60, 70 years. We're doing it now and you're going

[Stephen K. Bannon]

to get a chance to. You're going to get a chance to actually see legislation that they are committing.

[Steve Bannon]

They're going to get to the standing

[Stephen K. Bannon]

filibuster and then from there they will actually get victory.

[Steve Bannon]

Although Tuberville's pretty up front.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He doesn't think we've even got the 51 votes on the Republican side.

[Steve Bannon]

Even if you didn't have the filibuster,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

even if you didn't have the 60

[Steve Bannon]

vote to get cloture, or even if you didn't have a standing filibuster where

[Stephen K. Bannon]

they eventually collapsed, he's saying he doesn't think he got 51. And you heard Mikowski yesterday kind of come out against it. So we're going to cover all that on the Save America Act.

[Steve Bannon]

Want to bring in.

Do I have Kobe Bloomfield Gans.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Kobe, the founder and CEO of Chapters.

[Steve Bannon]

Kobe, I got to tell you, and we're getting so much feedback directly from the Warren Posse. I don't think we've ever had a launch with somebody that's been this positive

[Stephen K. Bannon]

and kind of a breath of fresh air. People say, my God, the cavalry finally arrived.

[Steve Bannon]

Just talk about the $100 billion that of fees out there that in this whole complex. And I said I, and we're going

[Stephen K. Bannon]

to, I'm going to use you guys too.

[Steve Bannon]

And that the fact that I have used one of these advisors. Right. And, and it's very confusing. And like I said, I worked at Goldman, I went to Harvard. It's, it's, but it's too confusing for me. And I didn't really even understand the

[Stephen K. Bannon]

deep structure of the industry about these

[Steve Bannon]

hundred billion dollars of fees annually until you explained it to us. Also the fact that you made a point that I think a lot of people forget. This is not a welfare program. This is not a social welfare program. This is something people pay for. So they ought to get the absolute

[Stephen K. Bannon]

best deal they can possibly get.

[Steve Bannon]

Walk me through Chapters, why you formed it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What does it do for people?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Thanks for having me on again, Steve. Yeah. As you said, that hundred billion dollars is the amount of money that Americans are overpaying on their Medicare every single year. It's $100 billion of overspend because the Medicare industry is so complicated and so rife with misaligned incentives. I started the company after seeing my parents and family struggle with those misaligned incentives and get on the wrong plan. They had been Working with a Medicare advisor who didn't do what was right for them. And as I peeled back the onion on the industry and learned more about it, because I didn't come from a healthcare or an insurance background, I came from a how do we use data background, I learned that the incentives here are so misaligned and so heavily pushing people towards the insurance carrier. Every single Medicare advisor in this country, with the exception of chapter, is trying to push people into a plan that earns the insurance carrier more money. That is just how it works. That's how 99.9% of the industry works. And that's really what we're trying to fight against.

[Steve Bannon]

And so how do you guys.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And by the way, the feedback we've gotten from the testimonials from people, I

[Steve Bannon]

mean, what's been your. In the companies from the time you

[Stephen K. Bannon]

came on with War Room posse members,

[Steve Bannon]

what's your general assessment of what people had to say? Because they've come to us directly. And I mean, it's like, seriously, the besieged homesteaders.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Had the cavalry finally arrive?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Yeah, I mean, it's been an amazing launch. Just in the past couple days, I think we've already helped 100 or more people save hundreds of thousands of dollars. It is quite remarkable and it's been a really bright spot for the company over the past few days. So it's been a pleasure. Our Medicare advisors are telling me that we're saving people so much money. I have, you know, a few testimonials here. Lee from Missouri said that Lee saved a tremendous amount of money and that they, their anxiety is now gone from dealing with the Medicare industry. Gloria From Florida saved $2,100 just on her prescriptions. So, you know, these are just a couple of the many, many testimonials we're getting. But everyone in the company is excited. We're getting so many calls from people because so many people are on the wrong Medicare plan. And it's really a shame because as a society, I think it's really our responsibility to support our elders. And we as a society have largely let them down when it comes to their healthcare and their Medicare.

[Steve Bannon]

So walk through again. How do you guys act as an honest broker?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you come. It's pretty amazing, too, because most people

[Steve Bannon]

you meet in this industry, we talk to them, are people that grew up in this industry and for some reason

[Stephen K. Bannon]

they're just drawn to it.

[Steve Bannon]

You were actually a tech guy and really a data guy. I guess it was your parents and

[Stephen K. Bannon]

particularly your mom getting hooked into that One that every, she's kind of in a Kafka esque nightmare. She signed up, the guy got her

[Steve Bannon]

to sign up for a program that

[Stephen K. Bannon]

only gets worse over time. And you know, of course her, her,

[Steve Bannon]

her beloved son kind of comes in

[Stephen K. Bannon]

and says, mom, I think you screwed up here.

[Steve Bannon]

How did, how was it being, having a data, how was it having a data background allowed you to kind of build this, to become an honest broker?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

When I started the company, I of course talked to a lot of the Medicare brokers and the legacy industry and they all told me that what I wanted to do was either illegal or impossible. And you know, then I actually read the laws, I said, okay, is this illegal? No, it's not. It's not actually illegal to do what's right for the consumer. You just don't do that. And then I looked at all the data feeds and is it possible to get data on every Medicare plan? It's very hard, but it is possible. So I took some of the best engineers I worked with at the prior company I worked at, recruited some amazing technical talent from across the country. These are people who can get jobs at the large tech companies you'd know but prefer and decide to work on A mission driven problem that we work on at chapter and join us and we take data from every Medicare option across the country. We take your individual inputs and then we match you with the right plan. Whether or not chapter earns any money. Our team doesn't even know that how much money we earn, if we earn money. So every single day we're signing people up for plans on which chapter earns nothing. And I just view that as a cost of doing business and a long term orientation to make sure that people get the right plan for their needs. And so in that way we're able to align incentives entirely with the end user. And if you have all the data, if you have a really good team that is aligned with the incentives of the consumer that they're actually serving and you set up all the processes and, and systems and infrastructure, you can do very well by doing very good by people. And that's really my philosophy and our philosophy as a company.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'm going to go back, Thun's coming back to the sticks. We're going to go back there in a second. Before I lose you, Kobe, a lot

[Steve Bannon]

of people have texted me and said, hey, what about if we're in the

[Stephen K. Bannon]

shape of Kobe's mom?

[Steve Bannon]

What about if we did sign up for something and it sucks, but we signed up for it, can we still give them a call and can they help us?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Is there any way we can unravel

[Steve Bannon]

this so everybody that's already made, unbeknownst to them, a bad decision or a decision that's maybe suboptimal, can they still call you guys and you guys will try to work it through with them?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is okay?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

Just give me the process of where do people go? What do they call?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Because a ton of people said, hey,

[Steve Bannon]

if I had a clean slate, maybe I'd do it. But I'm already locked into this thing. And yes, I got anxiety, I got

[Stephen K. Bannon]

angst, and I don't know what I did, but is it too late for me?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Sir, if you're, if you're already on a Medicare plan, give us a call at 8 4, 5, war room. That's 8, 4 5, war room. We have our Medicare advisors will tell you if you're already on the right plan. If there are options to help you switch, we will help you switch. It's free to work with us. And there's really no downside. If you, if you can save money and get better health coverage, we'll help you do that. If you're stuck and there's, you know, there's less that you can do, we'll tell you that too. And so at least you'll have confidence in the plan that you have. And if you can save a lot of money, we'll help you do that. That's 845-war- room- cope, 845-war- room.

[Steve Bannon]

Make that call today.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You're going to, you're going to see your anxiety go away. This is what we're trying to do.

[Steve Bannon]

Here's enough anxiety in the world, in your life.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You don't need, you know, you don't need a cell phone.

[Steve Bannon]

845 War Room Kobe, thank you. First of all, thank you for setting up the company.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's amazing. And thank you for, for giving access to the war and posse on this. I appreciate you and taking your Saturday and coming on anytime.

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Thanks for having me.

[Steve Bannon]

So it's been really incredible. So make sure you go check it out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Go talk to him. Immerse yourself. Look, you guys want the receipts? Go, go get the receipts here.

[Steve Bannon]

Do I have th.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Can I cut back to th. Jonathan, are we going to wait for that for a second? Okay, let's go ahead.

[Unknown Military Guest]

Let.

[Steve Bannon]

John Thune's back at the sticks. Why? Considering the pressure of the president and the right. Why would you eventually move to end debate on this if this is so important, especially to the PRESIDENT yeah, well,

[John Thune]

we haven't made any final decisions about how to conclude this. Chad well, at some point that's a possibility. But at the moment what we are trying to do is ensure that we are having a fulsome debate on an issue that is overwhelmingly supported by the American people and one that puts everybody on the record one way or the other. And so today, obviously we're going to have a vote later this afternoon on whether or not biological males ought to be able to vote or ought to be able to compete and play in women's sports. But then we will move to something that Senator Husted addressed and that was the piece of legislation he tried to get brought up and passed on the floor and objected to by the Democrats the other night. And we will move to that put that every Democrat on the record. So the photo ID amendment will be the next amendment. And I think all these things in the Save America act, as we've all said, are common sense. We think they're supported by overwhelming majority of Americans and in many cases, as Senator Houston also pointed out, you had 36 states that have adopted photo ID laws. Why wouldn't we have a nationwide one? And to hear the Democrats, hear the leader of the Democrats say in response to a question we're not opposed to photo id, but then to block even getting it up and considering it and furthermore to offer an alternative that bans and prohibit specifically photo ID I think speaks to where they are. But we're going to they're all going to have to cast that vote. So we're going to continue to debate this and at some point we'll decide after we have a sufficient number of votes and and we have had the opportunity to have that fulsome debate on the floor, we'll decide what to do next.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Lisa

[Mark Beale]

two questions about specific on the bill that includes that one is that it's effective immediately.

[Steve Bannon]

The real ID card for example, was phased in ultimately over 20 years. So with a lot of ownership.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Freaking question. They gain more of this?

[Steve Bannon]

No, they're going to stick around. They're going to have a fulsome debate.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tuberville I'll take it. Thank you. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Because they're just getting sent at gobbledygook and I don't know why guys, when you we spend, I don't know, seven and a half trillion, can you put

[Stephen K. Bannon]

microphones in so people can just use a microphone so audience can hear them? Just a recommendation to your comms department,

[Steve Bannon]

tuberville they're going to get Tuberville's amendment up later on men and women's sports. They're going to vote on that. Then Husted they try to do a unanimous consent. Was it Merkley of Oregon which knew one Democrats said we're not going to do that. They're going to put that back up today just on just on photo id 1 one item out of the Save America act and force a vote on that to put the Democrats on the record.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

These are what would be called messaging votes.

[Steve Bannon]

And then they're going to continue to grind through for the weekend. And people in the know say that Senator Mike Lee and others, because you can kind of sit up there and say, hey, they're making up as they go along. There is a legislative process here to try to get through this debate and into a actual force them into a standing filibuster.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The good guys that actually want to

[Steve Bannon]

force this thing and make sure that we can actually break a filibuster and get a piece of legislation to the president of the United States. President Trump once again reiterates that the two things that domestically he's hammering nonstop is Tina Peters in a Colorado prison and that you've got to get voter ID and no mail in ballots and

[Stephen K. Bannon]

all that into the, you know, as a law to to grind through this. So anyway, the Senate and we're going to be covering this and real America's Voice going off coverage. We're on dip in and out throughout the day. Grace and Mo will have it up streaming so we get to see all of it as we always do.

[Steve Bannon]

Is, is Jan up? Jan, do I have you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you only got a limited amount of time. I want to make sure everybody gets access to you and your book as you drive to the New York Times top 10 bestseller.

[Steve Bannon]

I think it's now the Chinese Communist Party. President Trump's told the ccp, hey, if you want to keep the Strait of Hormuz open, you ought to have at it. They're kind of saying, well, no, we're

[Stephen K. Bannon]

really focused on the Taiwan Straits and

[Steve Bannon]

what we want to do there. We do know. And Joe Allen and Mark Beale are going to join us in a second to talk about AI The Chinese Communist Party once again caught red handed illegally with espionage, taking $2.1 billion of advanced chips from Nvidia through a basically a front organization for the Chinese Communist Party that happens to trade publicly in the United States of America. People to understand the depth of depravity of this regime.

[John Thune]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

And keep they Keep talking about the Iranian regime. The Iranian regime's got nothing on the ccp. The CCP is the mack daddy of bad guys, sir.

[Jan Jekielek]

You know the one thing that's really crazy to me. I'll just be straight up with you, okay? They've got the leg up on us on a whole bunch of technologies including EV solar and stuff like that. That's been their strategic policy. Basically dump into our market, get rid of those companies basically because they can't survive, and then basically build into it and then start selling to us. Right? So we still have the upper hand in AI. There's an amazing testimony recently by Georgetown assistant Professor Rush Doshi about this. We still have the upper hand in AI, but we're kind of like way too easily giving it away and allowing for these loopholes and perhaps this particular insanity. I mean, these chips, these servers that were basically taken, those have all sorts of military applications. This is the top end stuff. We cannot allow this. We have to not just have the export controls, but have the teeth to stop this stuff from getting out.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on. How crazy is it? You do this every day. You've written this book about what demons these people. How crazy is we have these tech oligarchs sitting there with Jensen Huang and allowing us and trying to convince the President to let them have chips. Is that a suicide mission or not?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sir?

[Jan Jekielek]

It's just I, I think they've taken advantage of our greed. I mean, I don't know. I can't speak to any individual person, but I'm just scratching my head like a world. Listen, this is, I, I keep saying this, right? If China under the Communist Party runs AI and builds those language models and start to dominate, we're going to have the worst kind of mindset. This is kind of the, this is one of the big themes in my book. Okay, so it's a bit about this horrible forced organ harvest industry, but a big part of it is how this is the perfect way to understand the mind of the ccp. And the mind of the CCP is psychopathic. That's one way to describe it. And you know, and we know that whatever our biases are, however we think gets into these language models. We don't want that, guys. Like, it doesn't matter how much money it is, you know, we just can't do this. We just can't do this. Okay?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Doesn't, Doesn't. It's a future of the world.

[Steve Bannon]

I want people this weekend to go get this book.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Where do they go?

[Steve Bannon]

John?

[Jan Jekielek]

So killtoorder.com, this is an unbelievable thing. Okay, listen, this issue is something I couldn't even talk to people about for the longest time because they would basically zone out literally in the middle of conversations. It's too macabre, right? But right now in all books on Amazon US Amazon number 131, we might be able to take it through the top 100, right, and get on some major bestseller lists and that this issue then gets bigger, blown into the mainstream. And I mean, this is what I've been dreaming about for years. Okay, why? Because it's so critical. It's not just a horrible crime against humanity which we need to end and at least end our own complicity. I think we can do that. But it's also we have to understand who we're really dealing with. And this is what this book explains. So here we are.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, hang on for one second. Just hang on. Just come to hold through the break with me.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mike Lindell]

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[Steve Bannon]

Word of People. One more time. Hardwire send where to go right now to find out more about the book. And if you're so inclined, order it. To see the pathological mindset of the

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Chinese Communist Party, sir.

[Jan Jekielek]

And by the way, I just looked number 10 on the Amazon new release list right now. Just kind of blowing my mind away. Killtoorder.com that takes you right there. You can also call your local bookstore, ask them to order a copy for you. That's great. Barnes and Noble, Whichever way that killtoworder.com takes you to the Amazon link for me, look at me on X. It's at Janya Kelek at J A N J E K I E L E K and of course theepochtimes.com I'm the senior editor there. This is, you know, we're the ones that have the news that so quote, unquote ages well. Please come join us killtoorder.com get the book, help me get on one of these, you know, big best seller list. And we pulled this issue out of the water.

[Steve Bannon]

War room posse putting it on their shoulders.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Love you, brother.

[Steve Bannon]

Self effacing, humble. Anna Hammer, Jan Yakelik of the Epoch Times. Okay, Joe Allen, the floor is yours. Joe, we had this big, you know, the Warren posse stood up with your leadership. We shut down the big beautiful bill and the Amnesty bill. We shut down in the NDAA a must pass piece of legislature, the Amnesty bill. In fact, they pulled it out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

They were so humiliated.

[Steve Bannon]

They promised and they came back with a framework. Now the President of the United States, he's got wars and economy and everything

[Stephen K. Bannon]

in the world on his shoulders.

[Steve Bannon]

This thing came out. In fact, I'm gonna let the audience

[Stephen K. Bannon]

hear from our own Joe Allen.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe. Because, Joe, one thing I think people have learned about you in the last five years, you're a good man, you got a good heart, you're not a political guy, you're not part of the D.C. swamp. Although now, unfortunately, I think you would

[Stephen K. Bannon]

say you have to spend a lot of time in D.C. what is your

[Steve Bannon]

frank and blunt assessment of this framework, sir?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, Steve, I gotta say, hanging around dc, I definitely have some high rubber boots to wade through the swamp and the other nasty fluids floating around here. Yet the National Policy Framework was just released by the White House. And if you are a tech executive or a tech worker, then this is basically anything you want to do handed to you on a silver platter with the possibility that you may get a light slap on the wrist if people notice that you are flooding the entire culture with non human minds that have been created by your data and are used intentionally to replace you. If you are a tech worker, you're good. Until of course, your coding job is replaced by one of these non human minds. If you're a CEO, you're great. If you are in Congress, at the very least, you don't have to concern yourself too much with what you're going to do about it. Because the National Policy Framework basically instructs Congress point by point by point, from child protection to copyright to the preemption clauses. It instructs Congress not to do this, not to do that, particularly on child protection. Yes, they do say that the Take It down act should be enforced, and so any image that's created of a child should be pulled down. That's great. Good job. They also state that the companies should enforce some kind of age gating, which raises a lot of questions about digital identity and rights online. But at least it's an attempt. But it also includes the recommendation that Congress not hold these companies liable. Remember, these are companies like Meta who had in their own internal standards the use of generative AI to seduce children as young as 8 years old. Those companies, according to this policy framework, should not be held liable and be embroiled in any sort of undue and burdensome liability accusations. And then I think maybe the most onerous of the recommendations is that copyright and free speech should be the privilege of AI companies and their systems. Meaning that if an AI company uses copyrighted material to train their model, which then goes on to create anything from artwork to literature, whatever that the companies themselves should be shielded from any kind of copyright litigation. It also goes on to say that free speech should be protected. Not free speech of human beings, free speech of artificial intelligence systems. You know, we've talked a lot about AI personhood. AI being treated as if it were a person. What they are talking about is that if an AI reads your book or if an AI watches your movie, then it's that AI's right to create something on the basis of it. If an AI is spitting out Hitler slurs or if an AI is spitting out a bunch of woke stuff, it is the AI's right, the free speech right. And all of this is wrapped in preemption that the states, with a few exceptions, with law enforcement and education, the states should not be passing laws related to artificial intelligence. It should be the federal government. And of course, the instruction is that Congress should not do much of anything.

[Steve Bannon]

This is, you know, President Trump. And look, he's absolutely correct that we have to be the dominant player.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

There's no doubt.

[Steve Bannon]

But you saw yesterday that the Chinese Communist Party is using every means possible to get the chips from Jensen Huang. We got to cut that off. 100 we have first in any military campaign, number one, you make sure that the enemy is completely shut off. Completely shut off. This is a big question now in Iran about to Secretary Bezant, where's that $14 billion going? Is it going to pay for this? Is it going to pay for this war or is it going to go to the mullahs to help them pay that 140 million barrels? Well, same thing here. In this situation, the Chinese Communist Party should have no access whatsoever to anything in the ecosystem of AI, including the chips. So President Trump is naturally an accelerationist in that regard.

Right.

And that's not a problem. What a problem is, is the oligarchs their ideas of acceleration and President Trump's ideas of acceleration. Because in his executive order, there are some of these things that were covered that are not covered in this framework. The duty of care totally shifts to the parents. In a world of overwhelming technology, overwhelming money against you, overwhelming. They got every access to your kid possible. Right? As much and hard as you try to do as a parent. And look at those people Joe Allen interviewed in the streets that day. When they had that, they had that. They had that quorum, all the heart rendering stories, as good as they tried to do, the social media got to them.

[John Thune]

Right?

[Steve Bannon]

The duty of care goes to the parents. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not going to happen. And you overplayed your hand again. They're up in your fricking grill.

These people don't learn until you play smash mouth.

So Sacks, you want to play smash mo? We're ready. Okay, once again, this is no different than the frickin amnesty bill you stuffed in there. It's no different than the second time he tried to put in the NDA. You tried to do a little bit better. And this is in your face. And this is why the country's on fire.

And quite frankly, this gives the moral

high ground to Ron DeSantis. You want to do, you want to stop, you want to do preemption and stop the states, you're just going to fire up the states. People say, hey look, we gave you, the president signed it and gave you 100 days or 90 days to come up with it. And all you did was get up

on our grill with something that's not

acceptable at any level. Joe, hang on for a second. Mark Beale, I realize you're much more level handed in this. But look, Marsha, let me just take an example. Marsha Blackburn, the guys in the house, Marsha Blackburn has gone out of her way to say, hey look, I'm really concerned about this one thing of the children's protection.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

She's tried to do something.

[Steve Bannon]

They blew her off. They're blowing the states off. They blew people in the house off. They will. They, they think they got the money, they got the power, they got the lobbyists, they got the law firms, they got media in back of them. They got it all right.

And they got these stooges on the right.

They're sitting there going, oh, you guys are just for woke.

I screw you, we're not for woke AI, but we're not going to let a bunch of progressives, you morons, you're sitting there with above the most progressive guys in the universe that have already

screwed up social media and, and you're

nothing but paid hacks for them.

Mark Beal, your thoughts, sir?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hey, Steve.

[Mark Beale]

Yeah, it's a bit of a tale of two AI policies right now in Washington D.C. and the Republican Party. You had this framework that was released by the White House and then you have the counter proposal by Senator Blackburn. And I think if you look at the, the, the White House proposal, it is a little bit of a head scratcher. These guys had a, you know, three months or something, then they, they came out with a couple of bullet points with 3:31 spacing in the middle of that document. And then Marcia comes out with a 291 page, very detailed proposal that actually tries to solve some of these core issues. And I think, as you mentioned, the duty of care is something that I think many Americans felt we got wrong for social media policy. People may be aware of something called section 230, which was basically an amnesty bill for the tech industry. And then I think people want to do this again today with AI And I think the American people had enough of it.

[Steve Bannon]

But isn't this is the reason that Ron DeSantis has gotten some, it's gotten some traction with what he's trying to do in Florida, because people realize anytime you let the oligarchs, anytime you let the oligarchs do anything, they're full accelerationists and they don't care where it's going as long as they're doing a basic land grab here for, for, for power and for money.

They don't care for the country.

They don't. And they use this example. Oh, you guys are really pro ccp. Screw you. We've been hammering the CCP when you were in short pants. I don't want to hear your crap. You guys are all in business with them and you show you're in business with them because you want to build an ecosystem that they're competitive. Shut them down. We're all for shutting that all down and taking it off the table. And then you can have an adult conversation where this going? And good God, God Almighty, we're letting

[Stephen K. Bannon]

these people near the weapons labs.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you kidding me? These are the, these oligarchs represented by David Sachs, the most dangerous people.

They're more dangerous than the Mulas in, in Iran.

If you look at the overall, what they could do, you know, Mark Levin's yelling, oh, they could come in, hey, these guys are here right now setting off of basically dirty bombs to go into every, every individual's bedroom of their children.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sir.

[Mark Beale]

Well, I think we remember, I mean, I grew up in the 911 era and you know, the global war on terrorism. And I, I remember the kind of tech industry sitting out most of that. And to hear them come in in the last 10 years talking a lot about China and national security, I think, you know, right. Be a little skeptical of that because if you, if you want to win against China and you want to do so in a way that remains consistent with American founding principles, then you don't go about doing the things that you're doing. And so I think China, the specter of China winning this AI race has become a bit of a Boogeyman. A bit of a cudgel to use to basically avoid any kind of accountability. And remember, Steve, this industry really for the last 30 years has not ever been told that it can't do something. And so in some respects it's having a little bit of a temper tantrum right now when the public is resisting some of these things or at least trying to. I think everyone recognizes, like America has to win on AI and we have to do it in a way that's consistent with what our constitutional framers put in place in, in 1789. And in order for us to do that, it means we cannot, we cannot beat China. We cannot become China to beat China. That's unacceptable. We have to figure out the American way of doing this. And right now, this proposal on the table is not that.

[Steve Bannon]

Mark, where do people go to get

[Stephen K. Bannon]

a more reason than Mike's yelling and screaming, ranting?

[Steve Bannon]

Where do they go to get a

[Stephen K. Bannon]

more reasoned look at this? Sir?

[Mark Beale]

Feel free to follow me on Twitter. I'm Arkbeal. And then on my organization, the AI Policy Network [e-mail]

[Steve Bannon]

folks, with everything going on, and I don't mean to say

[Stephen K. Bannon]

this in a bad way, but the

[Steve Bannon]

Save America act and the effort they're putting in there is nothing that behind

[Stephen K. Bannon]

the scenes, the real fight for control of this country and control where this country's going is right here.

[Steve Bannon]

And we're 1000 million percent for the

[Stephen K. Bannon]

save America act, but we're also for mass deportations and for making sure the

[Steve Bannon]

oligarchs do not make the decisions about

[Stephen K. Bannon]

AI and where it goes as a country, not technology. Mark, Bill, thank you so much. I appreciate you.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe Allen. Hang on.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The floor is going to be yours when we come back.

[Steve Bannon]

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Make sure you're one of them.

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe, there's so much going on I want people to know. They want to know where to go that you've got up now at Joe

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Bot and also at humans. First thing, get more information folks. Over the next couple weeks, this is

[Steve Bannon]

going to be another firestorm we're going

[Stephen K. Bannon]

to have to be involved in. And I would love to tell you

[Steve Bannon]

that it's not, but it is because this is a big fight for the direction of the country, the world, humanity and our species.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I don't know, just something small like that. Right?

[Steve Bannon]

Joe, you're at Humans.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You've helped kind of launch us.

[Steve Bannon]

Humans first. I didn't feel a lot of humans first in this framework. Give me a minute on that, sir,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

and then tell me where to go over the weekend to get more information.

You know, Steve, my path here to D.C. over the last 10 months has been traveling around the country talking to all kinds of people, including tech workers. And what I see is we have families, we have people trying to build and support those families by working. And we have people who are praying for prosperity, survival and if they screw up, praying for forgiveness. Now you look at who this national policy framework is enabling. It's enabling people like Google, enabling people like xai anthropic OpenAI. What is the predominant goal of every single one of the head, all the heads of those companies, most of the people in those companies. It is a transhuman future and for some of them, a post human future. They want to build machines that replace your work. They want to build machines that have access to and are influencing or even controlling your children. And they want to build machines that are the equivalent here on earth to God. It is profoundly anti human. And the reason I support a humans first policy is because that's who we are. That's who the government should be defending. Not giving copyright protection to AIs, not giving free speech protection to AIs, but to us Americans, human Americans. And so that is very, very simple. I think it should be ridiculous to say, but it has to be said. We have to have humans first in politics, in culture and in our religion.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe, where do people go over the weekend?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Get up to speed, sir.

Go to humans first.com or at real humans first. You can go to my site jobot xyz. My Dallas talk will be up tomorrow and at J O E B O T X Y Z. And I will be speaking at AMC Georgetown on Friday, March 27th for the AI doc that 7:30 doors. You can find the link to the invite on JoeBot XYZ.

Oh, that'll be fun down in Georgetown. Joe, thank you taking Saturday way and joining us. Talk to you after the show. Joe Allen D. Joe Allen Tage, I

[Steve Bannon]

got you in here for a minute. There are two Marine Expeditionary Forces with the USS Boxer leaving San Diego from Japan. The Tripoli 5000 Fleet Marines, Combat Marines

ready to go if called for capability.

They're also talking about commando Special Forces on a raid, if not in Carg island, then to get the nuclear material out. So it'd be special for once again, SEALs, Army Special Forces, Rangers, Green Berets, Delta, all of it called once again, your thoughts on this, sir?

[Unknown Military Guest]

Well, hopefully it doesn't come to this. Hopefully we can find an off ramp before we actually have to put boots on the ground. Then if we do, the question is where are they going to put them on Carg Island? And if we do take our cargo island, the next question is what's the end game? How long do we hold this island for and at what cost? Because you know, the whole Iranian coastline has caves and mountains and there's, they have, they have people hiding in there with weapons all over the place. So that's the question then, then the special operations side, do they go in and get the 60% enriched uranium? what cost? And do we know exactly where it is? I guess that's a big thing. At what cost? The special operations guys are going to be good at it. We have 82nd Airborne on standby also. But I just hope that we don't get sucked into another endless war. Hopefully. I think the boots on the ground, the special operations piece can be done relatively Quick. But the Carg island holding that, that's very questionable. At what cost is it going to come? How much treasure?

[Steve Bannon]

All of your compadres that you served

[Stephen K. Bannon]

with, guys you're very close to, how

[Steve Bannon]

enthusiastic are they about this war? Right now,

[Unknown Military Guest]

most of them are not enthusiastic, but there's a few that are. I mean, there's, there's always going to be. I think it's a split decision, you know, but most of the guys I talk to are not enthusiastic about this because most of the guys voted for no more wars. So here we are. But, but, you know, there. I know guys that support it big time, like they're ride or die. Let's go. So it's, it's, it's split.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, good.

[Steve Bannon]

Good to hear from you. I need, I need. I'm gonna need a big pot of coffee when I get off of here today.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We're gonna work.

[Steve Bannon]

We got our Sunday show tomorrow, same

[Stephen K. Bannon]

time, packed with updates on the war.

[Steve Bannon]

Sell me some coffee.

[Unknown Military Guest]

Yeah, we got. We got 20 off this weekend for the war room posse.

[Mike Lindell]

The.

[Unknown Military Guest]

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[John Thune]

Wow.

[Unknown Military Guest]

Go buy some coffee from Shields. So they. We just got on the shelves in Shields, Salt Lake City yesterday.

[Steve Bannon]

And then we're going to be working

[Unknown Military Guest]

on SHIELD Boise next.

[Steve Bannon]

Go, go buy some Warpath.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

One more time where they go

[Unknown Military Guest]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, sir. 20.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

Today, Mike Lindell, you had a big event in Georgia for you running for governor. Tell me about that and sell me some pillows.

[Mike Lindell]

Yeah, it was. It was amazing. They had me down here in Georgia. They're all behind my run for governor. Minnesota, all the work we did down here at Fulton County. And tonight I have a big event. I'm speaking to over a thousand mega, mega, mega, mega. And we're going to have. It's going to be great down here. And I gave him a message of hope that we have. I talked for five hours last night. I gave him a big message of hope. Our voice is so much bigger now that we can magnify the good things and and suppress the bad. And speaking of good things, here's the My pillow. While I'm down here doing work down here in Georgia, my pillow. They're moving the factory up there. You guys still get the free shipping this weekend. This is it. Let's get these mattress toppers. Mattresses, all of them, free shipping so we don't have to move them twice from the old factory this week. You guys go to mypillow.com all the closeout stuff. We have 80% off. You guys take advantage. The War Room exclusive free shipping on your entire order. Do all your shopping today. This is it. This the last weekend we're moving the factory. And you guys call 800-873-1062 and use that promo code. War Room. Free shipping right to your front door. Thanks, Steve. We'll see you tomorrow. Give you a big

[Steve Bannon]

we'll see you tomorrow. All day up on RAV in War Room.

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