Eric Bolling (1:55)

The Edge. But you know what? I. I love it here. You guys come tune in 4:00 clock in Real America's Voice and just watch us hang and throw it to Stephen K. Bannon, because like I said, you watch the war room. You, you leave smarter than when you entered it. So, Steve, appreciate you and take it away, my friend. And by the way, I'll see you in CPAC in Dallas or wherever that CPAC is this year.

Stephen K. Bannon (2:16)

We're having a, we're having a great time. It's in grapevine, but that's good. Close enough. You'll get there. We'll get you there.

Producer/Announcer (2:22)

Eric Bolling, thank you, sir.

Stephen K. Bannon (2:24)

To take Eric Bolling's analogy, which I think is very powerful, it's, I think the intelligence is trying to think through is the Iranian regime and what's left of it is a cornered rat, a cornered rabid dog or cornered grizzly that is going to have quite an impact over this, I think, tumultuous week. Here's what we want to do. We're now in the war room. I want to play the cold open. I've got Sam Fatis is going to join us. Really amazing show today, the 5 and 6 o' clock hour. Let's go ahead and let it rip.

Katie (Gulf Region Analyst) (2:55)

Well, look, firstly, I think tonight, Katie, the Gulf states will be breathing a sigh of relief for now because of course, the president backing climbing down on his ultimatum, meaning that it seems for now Iran won't retaliate to any US Attacks on power plants like we've seen them hit energy facilities across this region before as as Eamonn mentioned. So, yeah, breathing a sigh of relief tonight. But there is still a lot of anger amongst the Gulf countries, particularly here, the UAE over in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain as well. They're all on a bit of a different page to Oman, I think it has to be said. And they're angry because all along, ever since this conflict began, it seems that the US And Israel hasn't really been informing the Gulf nations of their strategy, of the moves that they're making. And actually some kind of Gulf analysts believe that the US And Israel are kind of making it up as they go along. So, so there is an element of anger there, but also this huge concern as well, because if what the president is saying, that this is coming to a close and, and that this war is pretty much over and the US can, can leave, even though there are still thousands of troops on the way here, well, it would leave the Gulf pretty much stranded because not far away you've got a very dangerous neighbor in Iran who've got the capabilities of launching ballistic missiles and dozens and dozens of drones as they have been doing into the likes of the UAE and they could do that whenever they want to, wherever they want to as well. So what the countries like the UAE and the Gulf are suggesting to America is that you've got to stay here, you've got to finish the job. And also if there are any negotiations and the Gulf countries need to be involved in those negotiations because at the end of the day, this conflict will hamper them more. So we've seen the economic effects already that is happening, that is having on these countries. We see the damage and destruction that's happened to infrastructure, civilian infrastructure in these countries as well. So they will very much want to seat that negotiation table.

Donald Trump (5:33)

And then unfortunately I came, I called Pete, I called General Kaine, I called a lot of our great people. We have great people and I said, let's talk. We got a problem in the Middle East. We have a country known as Iran that for 47 years has been just a purveyor of terror. And they're very close to having a nuclear weapon. We can keep going and get that 50,000 up to 55 and 60, there's no end. Or we can take a stop and make a little journey into the Middle east and eliminate a big problem. And Pete, I think you were the first one to speak up and you said, let's do it because you can't let them have a nuclear weapon. So we are now having really good discussions. They started last night a little bit the night before that. Operation Epic Fury, I love that name. And it's very appropriate for what's taken place if, you know, in Iran because we knocked out their navy, we knocked out their air force, we knocked out their anti aircraft, we knocked out everything. And we did it with fury. Actually, as I announced earlier, based on preliminary conversations between the United States and Iran over the past two days, I've directed the Department of War to temporarily postpone planned strikes against major energy and electricity targets in Iran. They have very, very big new, actually and very expensive billions of dollars it costs to build them one missile, one of our powerful ones. And it comes down to the ground like it was made out of dust. But to determine whether a broader agreement can be reached, we've had very good discussions, very, very good discussions. And you have to understand, I know my whole life has been a negotiation. But with Iran, we've been negotiating for a long time and this time they mean business. And it's only because of the great job that our military did is the reason they mean business. They want to settle and we're going to get it done.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman/Diplomat (7:39)

I hope as far as the officials are concerned, we had a couple of interviews with friends, Foreign ministry spokesman and a diplomat and sort of tying into what we're hearing today from Donald Trump. There was a real reluctance amongst Iranian officials to get drawn into diplomacy. What they say is they feel that they have been hoodwinked by the Americans twice, using diplomacy as a kind of masquerade, a kind of charade, during which Americans, they say, were preparing to attack them and then did attack them when talks were underway. And they would be very reluctant to get a draw, to get drawn into further diplomacy, which I think makes me fairly skeptical about what we're hearing from the Americans.

Brianna (Interviewer) (8:16)

American president today, while Iran is saying that there are no talks, Trump is saying that there are. And he said there's 15 points of agreement with Iran, including that Tehran commits to not having a nuclear weapon. And also this idea of enriched uranium that the US Would take possession of. So talk to us about that. Where is most of that held and what are the challenges in securing that?

Nuclear Expert (8:39)

Yeah, so there are a lot of challenges to that, Brianna. And where most of it is held as basically in several places here we have datans, which is one of the enrichment facilities. You have fordo another enrichment facility. And then the rest of them here, Tehran, Iraq, Esfahan, those are all research facilities. So the theory is, is that a lot of that enriched uranium that we have is probably held in Isfahan. However, there is the distinct possibility that among those 970 or so pounds of enriched uranium that they have been dispersed, that those scuba tank size containers of the enriched uranium have been dispersed throughout at least some of these areas and perhaps in other areas throughout Iran. So that is a very difficult problem.

Donald Trump (9:22)

Now Iran is one more opportunity to end its threats to America and our allies, and we hope they take it. Either way, America and the entire world will soon be much safer.

Steve (Law Enforcement Official) (9:33)

The work that President Trump is doing not only in Memphis, not only in Washington D.C. but, but all over the country, ultimately it will save and is saving tens of thousands of American lives. It is, I'll use that word again. What President Trump has done on border security and public safety is a national miracle that will be studied not only for generations, but for centuries to come. Thank you, President Trump.

Donald Trump (9:58)

Thank you, Steve. So, Cash, see if you can top that.

Tim Estes (10:09)

I don't know.

Donald Trump (10:09)

That's a tough one, Cash.

FBI Director (10:11)

That is tough. You know, Mr. President, as I look around this venue, I see and I'm reminded again why we have the greatest warriors on God's green earth. The men and women serving in uniform, the men and women serving and wearing the badge. In law enforcement, our police, our sheriffs around the state of Tennessee. I'm reminded that Americans exist to protect this country day in and day out. And they've done it like we've done it here. But what we didn't have was you. We didn't have a commander in chief who backed the blue, who resourced the blue, who funded the military, who did whatever it takes to safeguard every single life. And here in Memphis, Tennessee, you have put on a show for the world. You have allowed us to go out there and capture gang bangers, rapists, murderers, drug dealers at record historic levels. And for me, a first generation Indian American kid whose parents flooded genocide in East Africa to become the ninth director of the FBI. I'm living the wildest dream you could possibly imagine, sir. But it's thanks to you. But more importantly, what I see when I look out across our great partners here in the interagency and our great legislatures and our great prosecutors and our great attorney general who has the guts to go out there and make arrests, turn them into prosecutions and put people in prison. You are giving that dream to every single child in the city state of Tennessee. You are inspiring the nation and law enforcement to come up and wear the badge and wear the colors of this country and safeguard our men and women for generations to come. This is an enduring mission, Mr. President, because you have made it enduring. It is going to go on for generations to come. They are going to try to achieve what you accomplished here, what Stephen said in just one short year. And they are going to be doing it for decades because America was smart enough to elect you as our commander in chief. So while we're out there fighting for the dreams of our children, just know, Mr. President, how many millions of dreams like mine are going to be lived thanks to your brilliant leadership. Mr. President, thanks for delivering America the safest, safest, safest country on God's green earth.

Stephen K. Bannon (12:12)

I'm always on everybody else about being muted welcome. It is Monday, Tuesday the 23rd of

Producer/Announcer (12:16)

March, year of our Lord 2026.

Stephen K. Bannon (12:19)

You're here for the late afternoon early evening edition. Want to thank. That was a magnificent cold open. We've got so much more to do. I will have a comment after the break. Sam Fettis going to join us about converging all these forces of law enforcement and bringing down the crime rate in these big blue Democrat sanctuary cities, which I think is terrific because every human life matters and particularly working class African Americans, whites and Hispanics in these cities living in hellholes, they deserve to live correctly. But let's not forget about the mass deportations. Let's get the mass deportations. Stephen Miller, Love you, brother. But mass deportations, that's the key word, mass deportation. Not just bad hombres. I also want to read something before we go to break from America's Greatest Ally. This is the translation from Hebrew Yisrael of Netanyahu, quote, and I'm quoting. Earlier today, I spoke with our friend President Trump. Okay, let me add some editorial comment. Whether he's your friend or not is not relevant. He's your ally and he's the chief ally here. And you don't mention that entire time. You don't say, earlier today I spoke with our ally, President Trump or the senior member of this coalition, President Trump, you say our friend President Trump. President Trump believes there is a chance to leverage the tremendous achievements we have made with the US Military to realize the war's goals of the agreement, an agreement that will safeguard our vital interests.

Producer/Announcer (13:39)

At the same time, we continue to

Stephen K. Bannon (13:40)

attack both Iran and Lebanon.

Producer/Announcer (13:42)

We are crushing them middle sub program

Stephen K. Bannon (13:43)

and the nuclear program, and we continue to severely harm Hezbollah. Just a few days ago, we eliminated two more nuclear scientists and the hand is still outstretched. We will protect our vital interest in any situation. Yes, Israel should protect their vital national security interests, as every nation in the world should do. But as an ally in this, I think when President Trump says, hey, look, I think we got to try to figure something out or at least let me find out if you through the Pakistanis or the Turks with the cornered either rat, rabid dogs or grizzlies, we can get somewhere. I would think you just give us cheery eye eye and a salute and say, okay, we'll stand down. Like you're going to stand down. They're not allies and they're certainly not the world's greatest allies. And they've never been America's greatest ally. Actually disgusting that they're going to continue to carry this war. And of course, the Iranians came back and said, hey, we're prepared to continue to fight it. President Trump has put this entire thing on his shoulders, including the risk to his presidency and the nation and his legacy. Give him a chance to try to work through this. Short commercial break. We're going to return to the war room. Sam Faddis, break it all down for you.

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Stephen K. Bannon (16:20)

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Sam Faddis (16:22)

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Stephen K. Bannon (16:27)

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Sam Faddis (18:10)

Yeah, it's like a cornered grizzly wearing a suicide vest. Right? That's what you've, what you've got here. These. I mean, the war, obviously, I'm painting with a really broad brush here. We're attacking the Iranians, The Israelis are attacking the Iranians. The Iranians aren't really fighting, fighting us. I mean, they are firing at American troops. And unfortunately we've taken some casualties. But we attack them and increasingly their response is, well, we're going to sink an oil tanker or now we're going to blow up a desalinization plant or we're going to blow up an oil production facility. I mean, it's, we're all going to hell together. If you guys want to keep at this, we're just going to burn the place down. And let's keep in mind at the top of this, you got a bunch of guys who, they're Twelvers. They believe this is the end of times and they win on the other side of the apocalypse. And in fact, it is their duty, their requirement, to bring on the apocalypse. That's the only way you get to nirvana, if you will. I'm mixing a bunch of metaphors there, but I think you get the point. They are serious when they say that they will do this. And we've already seen that.

Eric Bolling (19:23)

So

Sam Faddis (19:27)

that's the quandary.

Stephen K. Bannon (19:28)

Hang on.

Producer/Announcer (19:29)

And you work the case file in

Stephen K. Bannon (19:32)

country or around the region with this as your mandate to figure this thing out and work with people. So it's not like you're reading some books and you were actually there, saw it up close and personal, correct?

Sam Faddis (19:45)

Yeah, 100%. And I recruited a whole bunch of, and ran a whole bunch of Iranian sources, including guys at very senior levels. So I'm not talking to you about something. Somebody told me once in a bar, I'm telling you what I know from being face to face with these guys. Now, that doesn't mean that every Persian is, is off in crazy land like this, but the guys at the top who are in control of this, they are 100% committed to this. So when they say, we'll burn the whole frigging Persian Gulf to the Ground, you better believe them. Doesn't mean you have to let them. I'm just saying you better assume that is not an idle threat. That's real.

Stephen K. Bannon (20:29)

As you see the President working through this and walk people through when you're using various. He's very close, you should know, to the field marshal in charge of the Pakistan Army. I know he's had that individual to lunch at the White House. He spent a lot of time with him. He's also, whether people like it or not, he's very close to Erdogan and thinks very highly. Erdogan. I know that doesn't set well with some folks, but that's just a reality. So he's working both. He's working Erdogan, and that's the. Looks like the Witkoff Jared angle. He's also working the Pakistani guy that I think came to him with the speaker of the House, whatever that means. When you're doing this in real time and you've got weapons flying back and forth with each other, how difficult is what the President's trying to accomplish right now?

Sam Faddis (21:18)

Yeah, it's incredibly difficult. Look, one of the things we've been talking about is one of the challenges in fighting the Iranians is that they've moved to this decentralized command structure, right? You can cut off the head of the snake. It doesn't matter. The thing keeps. The thing keeps fighting. Okay, well, that allows them to be resilient and continue to fight and resist our tactics. But it also means, okay, now you're trying to get. Now you're acting. Them to act as an entity with a single head, subject to a central control, when, in fact, they're not actually acting like that right now. So, to start with, you could be talking to somebody in Iran, and he could be legitimately trying to negotiate peace, and somebody else could be going on, on broadcast right now saying, we have no idea what the hell you're talking about. There are no discussions ongoing. And actually, both of those things could be true simultaneously. Really, really hard. I mean, both. Look, you know, Erdogan obviously has his challenges, but bottom line is we got to find somebody who can bridge the gap here, somebody who can talk to both camps. If I had a preference, I would choose the Pakistanis.

Tim Estes (22:30)

Not.

Sam Faddis (22:31)

Not that they've been without issues in the past, but I think they are better. Whether that. I don't know where those talks stand. I've been all day trying to figure that out. There seems to be a lot of confusion in Pakistan as to whether there are or are not Back channel negotiations going on

Stephen K. Bannon (22:49)

with centcom. Admiral Cooper, they have their own intelligence group, obviously, Joint Staff has their own. You've got the CIA, you've got dni. Just at this level. What are the type of briefings that are going on for the president, as he said, and he wasn't very clear because he didn't really say we're going to take a stand down from the military side. But that is kind of the implication. Right. What are the briefings that are going on right now and how are they providing information to the commander in chief so he can both oversee the war and try to get to some sort of peaceful resolution?

Sam Faddis (23:24)

Well, he's going to be getting briefings not just on sort of, I was going to say tactical. That's the inappropriate term. Not just the operational aspects of the conflict. But now we're deep into the weeds of personalities. What is so and so in Iran or in Pakistan actually doing. What did they say after they got off the phone with you? This kind of thing. Right. This is where CIA ought to be earning its pay because, you know, you can't see what's going on inside somebody's head in Iran or in Pakistan off of a satellite. And they're probably not talking over an open line where you could hear them either. This is when you really get down to the value of human intelligence, having those penetrations. And unfortunately, I mean, you know my position on that. We, we are not well placed. I mean, we do not, we've given, we, we, we don't have the human intelligence collection capability we need to have because this is, this is really critical. When you get off the phone and the guy told you such and such on the phone, what the heck did he say to his senior aides in the room after he got off the phone? That's the critical stuff. And if you don't have that, you're guessing. And the president is obviously really good at negotiations and reading people. But it doesn't change the fact that it would be better to know for sure.

Stephen K. Bannon (24:44)

The president. We may get the president at the sticks in a moment, so we're going to jump if we do. Sam and I don't seem like I'm picking on Netanyahu or singling him out because I'm not a big fan of the Arab allies either. You know, the region as Eric and I talk all the time, we have regional partners. We're trying to defend their oil assets and they're pretty quick on the trigger to go. Force majeure. I think Iraq went to force majeure last night to kind of get out of the contracts. They're selling it at 55 bucks a barrel and now renegotiate at 120. Our allies are economically incentivized as long as their infrastructure doesn't get crushed and the desalination plants don't get crushed. To have this thing go on for a while so that they can sell it at 3x of what they've sold it for us. And President Trump's full spectrum energy dominance was gonna have it at $40 a barrel. Your thoughts on our Arab allies, sir?

Sam Faddis (25:40)

Look, they're gonna do what all our allies do, Steve. They're gonna take care of themselves first and foremost. And as long as you deal with them on that assumption and with that understanding and that we also should do take care of ourselves first, then we're all good to go. But when we start getting into this business where we think just because we call them allies means we can trust them fully or they're not going to put themselves ahead of us, then you're setting yourselves up for a fall. I mean, that goes for the Israelis, that goes for the Arabs. I never had any problem with them because when they shove you, you just knock them back a few feet and let them remember who is really in charge and who's the big dog in the relationship. And then we're all good. But, man, if you're just going to trust them, they're going to take you to the cleaners.

Stephen K. Bannon (26:28)

Fantastic. Do I have enough time? Let's go and play the. Okay, hang on. We'll do it after the break. Sam, what I want to do is change hats. When we come back, I want to play a audio from the Supreme Court hearing today on mail in ballots. And because you're one of the grassroots leaders in Pennsylvania. Last thing before I let you go on this topic, President Trump said, hey, look, I'm given an ultimatum. We're going to take care of what we got to take care. We're going to meet our military objectives and we're out of here. Japan and NATO, you guys take the Hormuz. I heard a lot of people the weekend come to a big surprise that the NATO navies are not actually capable of that. Why would that come as a surprise to people, sir?

Sam Faddis (27:11)

I don't have any idea why it would be come as a surprise to people. I mean, obviously they're, obviously they're not capable of doing it. I mean, that's, that's the reality. You can ask them to produce, to do all kinds of things. But the fact of the matter is they do not have that capacity like the Europeans. Right. What do they do? They talk a lot. In the end, it's the United States who's going to have to do the heavy lifting.

Stephen K. Bannon (27:38)

Amen. That is the lesson, I think folks of the 21st century. Kind of the lesson of the 20th century too. But we didn't take it. There's a lot of talk going on, a lot of people running around. But at the end of the day, it's sailors, soldiers, marines, as those 18, 19, 20 year old, 21 year old young officers, young non commissioned officers that are making this happen. It's on their shoulders that all rests. Always remember that, the shoulders of young American citizens of this country. Short break. Sam Faddis in the Supreme Court. Mail in ballots, baby. One of our favorite topics up in Pennsylvania next in the war room. I've got a question for you. How do you usually get your medication?

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Sam Faddis (29:36)

War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Stephen K. Bannon (29:43)

Okay, Tim Estes, chairman of the alliance for a Better Future, a major new group of conservatives and alliance coalition about artificial intelligence. The cavalry has finally arrived. Is going to join us here momentarily. I still got Sam. Mark Elias picked up what we said this morning. Mark Elias, Steve Bannon suggested that President Trump deploy Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to major US Airports as part of a test run for using them in to meddle in the upcoming elections. All I said was, hey, they can't work the machine, so there's going to be checking IDs. Maybe this could be a practice run. And guess what? CNN's telling me we'll get a clip for you in the 6 o' clock hour. As you know, Brian Glenn stayed two hours in line and didn't move an inch at Atlanta Airport last night.

Producer/Announcer (30:28)

He then got a car with our

Stephen K. Bannon (30:30)

one of our producer cameramen and drove to the Mississippi river from Georgia to be there today to cover President Trump his visit to Memphis. So and now CNN's reporting is moving 40 minutes. I don't know if that's ice, but they must be checking IDs. Something's moving in Atlanta because that thing was a mess. It was a three to five hour mess. Something's moving. Sam Faddis, I'm asking you to put your other hat on as a grassroots leader with the Great Patriots and Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, which wait for it, mail in ballots were kind of a big deal in 2020. It's at the Supreme Court today. I want to play a cut and then bring you in, sir.

Paul Clement (Lawyer) (31:10)

Mississippi insists that ballots can trickle in days or even weeks after Election Day. That position is wrong as a matter of text, precedent, history and common sense. Mississippi all but concedes that the original public meaning of election included both offering to vote and the receipt of that vote or ballot by election officials.

Justice Alito (31:32)

We have lots of phrases that involve two words, the last of which, the second of which is day, Labor Day, Memorial Day, George Washington's birthday, Independence Day, birthday and Election Day. And they're all particular days. So if we start with that, if I have nothing more to look at than the phrase election Day, I think this is the day in which everything is going to take place. Place and or almost everything. And then we have three points in time, 1844, 1872, 1914. And we can ask what would people have thought on those days is meant by this phrase Election Day? Which of those should we choose? Which of those dates should we choose?

Paul Clement (Lawyer) (32:24)

Well, I think you could choose any of the three. I mean, honestly, I think the single best way, one, if you're just going to choose one, is 1872. And the reason I say that is because 1914 is the latest in time. But that's the one that Congress gave the least thought to.

Legal Analyst (32:39)

We are understanding that the argument is not going so well so far for Mississippi. And that could have really wide ranging consequences for the midterm elections because Mississippi is one of 18 states and territories that similarly, have a grace period for ballots that are marked by election day, meaning postmarked by election day, cast by election day, but are counted thereafter. That could also have really broad consequences for members of the military, for example, who are subject to their own federal statute. And as we were coming to camera, one of the liberal justices was questioning Paul Clement about that statute and how he would square that with the statute that he is arguing forecloses Mississippi from extending that grace period to folks who are voting by mail. Is the law very clear in terms of when ballots have to arrive? I would say on its face, no. And that's why they're talking about the original public meaning of the word election. There is nothing in the federal law that says that states may not count ballots received after election day if they are cast by election day. What this all turns on is whose definition of election counts here, and what are they going to use to sort of import into that definition of election? We're going to look at legislative history. Are we going to look at, at the founding. What did an election mean? Those are all sorts of arguments that the justices are playing with this morning. But one of the things that the conservative justices are really interested in pressing on is what happens if somebody wants to recall their mail in vote. That's a way of their trying to demonstrate that a vote is not finalized when it's cast. It's not finalized until it's counted. And therefore election day has to mean election day, that a vote that's not counted until afterwards isn't, in fact part of the election.

Stephen K. Bannon (34:26)

Sam, you're not a lawyer, and you're certainly not an election lawyer, and you saw the searing logic of, of Justice Alito there, and that's why even it's. However old he is, I hope he doesn't retire. We just need that guy, I feel. But mail in ballots, and particularly when they arrive and how they're counted and all that had a pretty big impact in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. So what do you and the grassroots leaders up there think about this whole thing of mail in ballots and like, when did they get it? When did they have to arrive to actually count, Sir?

Sam Faddis (34:59)

Well, look, the, the whole thing is very simple, Steve. You have, you know, you don't, you don't get to show up at the polls after they're closed and cast a vote. It's not that big a challenge for you to vote before the polls are closed, to get your vote in by the end of election day. Now, you can show up in person or you can mail it in advance. What, what this amounts to is cover for effectively this. I'll put you give you this analogy. It's like you got a football game and you come to the fourth quarter and the game is over, and then one team just wants to go out on the field and keep kicking field goals until they win the game.

Eric Bolling (35:40)

Right?

Sam Faddis (35:40)

That's absurd. But that is where we have ended up, look, in 2020. To tell you how crazy this got, we had a federal judge at one point who intervened and said, because I'm worried about ballots taking too long to get to be counted, I'm telling you to bypass the processing facilities. U.S. postal Service deliver election deliver ballots directly from the mailbox to where they're counted. So when you bypass the processing facility, that means, of course, there's no postmark. Literally, take the envelope and it goes to be counted. And this happened all over Pennsylvania. Okay, now we got ballots and we actually have no evidence of any kind to, to tell us when they were, when they were cast. And yet they were counted in vast numbers. I mean, the solution to everything with an election is let's just stop with the complication and the obfuscation. Let's just, let's be very straightforward here. Have very clear black and white rules. Very simple. Everybody plays by the same rules, and we see who wins.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:00)

Sam, you've got a thing up on your substack. I want to make people go to AM magazine because I really was going to have you on here today to talk about. There was, I think, 70, 70 to 100 drones over St. Petersburg in Russia last night that were shot down, taken down by the Russian military. As you say, drones have changed everything. I'm gonna have you on in the next couple days when you free up to do that. But where do people go to get your content, particularly your substack and your social media? Sir,

Sam Faddis (37:28)

go to substack, amd magazine and magazine.substack.com that'll get you to wherever we are.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:36)

Read the piece on drones. You'll understand what President Trump is dealing with and why. It's not like when I was in the Persian Gulf and my kid brother back. He was 86, 87. I was 79, 80. It's much more complicated and much more deadly today. And a big reason for that is these drones. Sam, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

Sam Faddis (37:57)

Absolutely.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:59)

Escorting tankers is not quite as easy as people think it is. Not today. Okay, folks, we are dealing with a war. We have massive financial and economic problems. President Trump and Scott Benson trying to get to. We've got issues with voting and sovereignty and mass deportation of 25 million people. I mean, the problems the country faces today, both externally and internally are some of the biggest problems the nation, this republic's ever had to deal with. And of course, on here every day we try to bring the best minds forward to talk about it. But given all that kind of behind the scenes in the imperial capital In Washington, D.C. there's a knife fight on issues that really deal with the future of our species. And that is all this about artificial intelligence and the race to the singularity and transhumanism and all of it. Tim Estes joins us now. He's chairman of the alliance for a Better Future. These folks, which are a collection of conservatives, have been in this fight from the beginning behind the scenes. But Tim, I guess today you guys are coming forward and say, hey, look, not only have we been in the fight, we're going to be at the forefront of this fight to make sure that this thing is sorted out. Just walk us through what is the fight? What is your alliance and where are you guys trying to drive this, Sir?

Tim Estes (39:21)

Yeah. Well, Steve, first of all, thanks for having me on. I've been on once before with Joe, who's wonderful, and I think we have been in this fight behind the scenes. As you mentioned, we're the alliance for a Better Future. We are conservatives, we are Christians, we are parents. We are backed by a majority of conservative and lifelong Republicans. We have nine amazing conservative organizations that have members driving this policy. These are pro family, pro American groups that had been working tirelessly, going back to kids online safety efforts and then through all the AI battles last year. And we believe that at the foundation of our AI policy needs to be human dignity, needs to be looking at how these things impact kids, impact families, impact jobs. And we believe we can do that in a conservative, market oriented way. But that is not amnesty.

Stephen K. Bannon (40:16)

Right.

Tim Estes (40:17)

We've been fighting that for the last 18 months and we are now becoming more public so we can fight that here in this year when the policy is potentially going to be set. So we believe the president has laid out a solid initial framework, but is still pretty sparse. And the devil lives in the details. And the details are everything. And right now, too many of the details in some of these bills that might be part of it are clearly written by tech lobbyists as giant giveaways using certain legal tricks to avoid liability and accountability at a time when we need accountability from these are the wealthiest companies in the world. Many actually have deep supply chain ties to China and we do not believe that kowtowing to them and treating them like trust fund kids is the way you manage them.

Stephen K. Bannon (41:08)

How you've got a who's who in this. And folks remember these guys have been behind the scenes fighting this as hard as anybody. And we've had some great victories. We pulled the two amnesty's, we defeated the one collectively, we defeated the one in the big beautiful bill and then we defeated it in the ndaa. And now they've, you know, President Trump signed an executive order and look, President Trump understands we must be dominant in this technology vis a vis the Chinese Communist Party. Now I don't happen to believe the tech guys are helping out here and the Chinese Communist Party on either the ecosystem of training or, or universities or particularly chips and all that. But that's a topic we have to stop that. That's inextricably linked but a little bit separate.

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But behind the scenes you've been fighting

Stephen K. Bannon (41:51)

and now you have a who's who. And I'm going to hold you through the break. So we get to like a minute or so left. You have a who's who of conservative groups that have been at the forefront of this whole thing about the family and getting birth rates up and the economics of the family and how the United States, the basic unit, as Burke told us, is the family. But you've got app with Terry Schilling, you got heritage yourself, you got some, you know, nothing but hitters. But you guys are literally David versus the biggest Goliath we've ever had. I mean they've got every lobbyist, they have every crisis communication, they have unlimited money. Their wealth creation is unbelievable. In a minute and I'll hold you through. How does David expect to take on Goliath?

Tim Estes (42:36)

Well, in short, if you have God on your side and you have the American people on your side, you can win. And we do. So that's how we're going to beat them. It's not the amount of money. No amount of money can take a lie this big and make it true if there are voices speaking the truth to it. And we're going to make sure there's enough investment going in and getting the truth out to make sure that this national policy lands in a place we can be proud of and that states can still protect their citizens in all kinds of ways.

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Stephen K. Bannon (45:04)

Make sure you're one of them. War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Tim Estes is with us. So Tim, you've put together a coalition or an alliance with kind of the best groups that have traditionally fought for the family, fought for children, etc. What is going to be the lead of what you guys fight for against this Goliath?

Tim Estes (45:34)

Well, I think first of all we want to bring attention to who's on the other side. People get out there and talk about how we can't regulate AI or we'll lose to China and the people that are doing this when they talk about the kind of regulations that we're advocating for. These are companies like Meta, right? Meta, it came out, had a 17 strike rule on sex offenders on their platforms. They got reported 16 times and they let the people stay on going after children. Okay, that's one of them. Another one. Andreessen Horowitz, major backer Major backer of these super PACs that are going in, parachuting in. They are the ones. You had Megan Garcia on your show not too long ago, didn't you, Steve? Wonderful, amazing woman.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman/Diplomat (46:20)

Yes.

Tim Estes (46:20)

Lost her child.

Stephen K. Bannon (46:22)

Yes.

Tim Estes (46:23)

Andreessen Horowitz is $100 million that funded those sexually abusing chatbots. Okay, OpenAI woke up. They have the former Clinton political assassin Chris Lehane, who invented the vast right wing conspiracy driving their policy. And Republicans are taking advice from this. We need to be really aware of what's going on on the other side because I actually think a lot of these guys are just going to flip sides when the election's over if the House changes. And so we are the ones who have been here. We've been here in the 2000 and tens. We've been here in 2016. We've been here for this president. And we are saying you need to be the protector of the American people. You are the protector. We believe in you. And these other people are in there pushing what makes them money and not protecting the American people.

Stephen K. Bannon (47:20)

Take a second on that, will you, Tim? Because one of the things that we talk to people about, and I love hearing another voice on this, is that the groups you are pulling together have been in this fight for the family and children for a long time, some for decades and decades and decades. Yes, the tech bros are kind of with us now. But if you look at the possibility, I'm not saying it's going to do it, but the potential that we could lose the House and maybe the Senate. These guys have all been progressive Democrats that kind of had their awakening at 10pm Eastern Standard Time when President Trump took Pennsylvania. I think it was in November 2024. They had their come. Yeah, they had come to Jesus moment. You're saying, hey, we ought to take that into consideration as we work through these regulations and laws and statutes that really define where the human species is going to go for the next couple of hundred years.

Tim Estes (48:15)

Yeah. I mean, why in the world would we listen to someone who put $400 million Zuck Bucks right into the 2020 campaign, tilting the odds as Molly Hemingway in her wonderful book, I think, like tore the lid off. Right. And that Congress investigated. Like, these people didn't magically come to Jesus really, did they? Because guess what? They're still explaining how there should be no regulations on things like sexually abusing chatbots. Like, where are they on the Guard act that Senator Hawley's put out, which is a great piece of legislation that's pending. These are things that are obvious, obvious things. And right now I see the cynical attempt going on to tie broad preemption and AI amnesty to kids safety bills. And that does offend me as a parent. It offends me as a conservative. We ought to be putting these kids bills through this week, no strings attached. If we are for protecting families like these very strong kids bills in the Senate should be coming to vote soon and they shouldn't have any other preemption on it other than to be a minimum standard for the states to live by.

Stephen K. Bannon (49:34)

Tim I want to immerse the war room posse is known for wanting the receipts and drill down and get all the information possible. That's when they can use their agency the best. And we're going to need the agency of the grassroots here to make sure that we deliver the muscle that's going to take to fight this. So where do they go?

Tim Estes (49:50)

Tim so you can find us@betterfutureai.org Come on. Watch the video. Share it around Social Pile on Sign up. We're going to be organizing. We're going to be going into races, working with candidates at the grassroots levels. We are going to make it known that if you have taken money from these tech billionaires or we have a recent we have a poll that came out just today, probably the broadest poll that's been done on the way the American people look at AI and especially Republicans look at AI, 86% of them do not want to support candidates that are that are basically tied up with tech billionaires. 86%. 81% want common sense guardrails. And we think that means something close to what Senator Blackburn has proposed. Who is I'm a Tennessean. I am blessed with an amazingly good senator. I know Mike Davis, who is a strong ally of this program has done amazing work there as well. We think that's where the heart of this party is or the part of the movement is. We believe there should be a national standard, but we think it has to be real. And if it's not real, the states have to stand in the gap and we don't trust the people who tried to slam amnesty down last June and then try to slam it down again by tying it to the troops. So they try to slam it down our throats, tying it to the president's biggest agenda. Number one. And Marsha stopped it 99 to 1 as we remember beautiful day. They try to slam it by tying it to an unrelated defense pill. Okay, more trickery. And now they're going to try to tie it to kids stuff. Let's have a real discussion on the right about what kind of guardrails are obvious for families, for kids, for workers, for risks. You know, there's a whole nother conversation not today, Steve, about the kinds of things that eventually go wrong with AI, much like, you know, gain of function types stuff that Covid showed us how bad that could go if these people can't explain how this is going to work by growing this AI, because that's what it is. I've been in AI 25 years. I'm not a person. I got like nine or 10 patents in this stuff. I am not a person coming into politics. I'm in politics because I got two boys, a seven year old and a nine year old, and I want them to grow up in a world where they can choose their destiny. And tech overlords aren't saying they have to merge with machines machines, which is some of the crazy stuff you've had it on. There's some crazy stuff these people say and they write big checks. And now these Republicans, some of them and Democrats too, they'll buy anybody they can are being beheld to this. And so and I think if I can end on something here, it's been all my heart all day as it's been going on. I'm in D.C. today, like to live in Nashville. We come with a 250th birthday coming up this year of this great beautiful

Stephen K. Bannon (52:27)

nation and Tim, Tim, hang on, Tim, hang on one second. I don't want to rush this. I want to hold you through the six o' clock hour. Just stick around.

Tim Estes (52:35)

Thank you.

Stephen K. Bannon (52:36)

Tim Estes is with us from the alliance for a Better Future. Wow, what a throwdown. Been waiting for this one for a while. We're going to take a short break. We're going to be back the Senate and the SAVE Act. The President's heading back to Washington, D.C. from Memphis. We got a lot to get through. Plus Dr. Jeffrey Tucker on the federal courts trying to shut down Bobby Kennedy now. Short Commercial break Back in the War room for our second outlet in a moment.

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