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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going
Matthew Conway
medieval on these people.
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Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
Steve Bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but
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you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Steve Bannon
And where do people like that go
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to share the big lie?
Steve Bannon
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Yeah, welcome back. We got Glenn's story just joins us and brother Coburn from Patriot Mobile. Glenn, you were missing in action yesterday. Where were you? We were here sweating under the hot lights with our partners at Patriot Mobile. Your wife was doing all the work, walking people through, getting great guests for us, organizing the grassroots. Where were you yesterday, Glenn? STORY
Ben Berkhwan
I was out shooting a machine gun with some friends and in particular, I won't, can I say the network? Sure. I was with the Fox team. I don't want to get them in trouble, but we were shooting fully automatic machine guns, pistols, and one gal from New York City had never shot a gun. And she was like, I don't think I can do this. By the time she left, she said this might be the coolest thing I've ever done.
Jenny Story
Welcome to Texas.
Ben Berkhwan
Yeah, welcome to Texas, baby.
Steve Bannon
Talk to us about. You've got a headline right here. I brought the Dallas Morning News that John Cornyn blows off coming here. He blows off having any debate with Paxson. Now the lead story in Politico this morning is that it's called Texas hold' Em that President Trump is not going to endorse at this time or probably, maybe even in the future, John Cornyn, because of the grassroots activity to actually make sure that, that Paxton had a fighting chance here and actually is now up eight to 10 points in the polls. Your thought about that?
Ben Berkhwan
Look, gosh, Paxton was at the gop, Texas GOP a couple of years ago and he had handed out these lanyards and gosh, I hate to say this, but it's the truth. The trash can was full of them because the grassroots generally doesn't like him. He does not stand for the true Texan. And number two, really, at the end of the day, he wants to take our guns and you know, a republic without guns is gone. And so, you know, the grassroots.
Steve Bannon
He supported that bill. The gun grab.
Ben Berkhwan
That's right. Hey, how many guys out here really, really like Cornyn vs. Paxton?
Steve Bannon
How many Corny fans do we have here? How many Ken Paxton supporters?
Ben Berkhwan
Hey, hey, that's a, that's a very unscientific poll or straw poll. It looks like, you know, the voice is spoken.
Steve Bannon
Tell me about Patriot Mobile. You're here on your, on your political side, not the company side. We're having a big meeting of grassroots activists right after this. You guys, Jenny Story has been the lead of pulling this together for Prop 10, the, the prohibit Sharia law. What are you guys working on in that regard? Because we passed it with 2 million votes. Right. With no money. 95% or 96%. But where do we go from here?
Ben Berkhwan
Look, it's all about telling the truth, what's really going on. Right?
Steve Bannon
And you look, are we winning or losing in Texas?
Ben Berkhwan
Well, with you here, we're starting to win, but there for a while, I felt like it was to going. Going past the point of no return and the reality of it. Well, look, we're overwhelmed right now with these mosques coming in. And they're coming in. There's 30 or 40 just in North Texas. There's one in my neighborhood. And it's not like they're just coming here to assimilate. They're coming here to take over. And hey, look, my dad, my, my great grandfather was a Civil War person, Civil War vet. My dad fought in World War II. Dude, we're right in the middle of one right now. And it's the same thing. It's either either bend our way or be gone.
Jenny Story
Well, you, you said it, Steve, when you were here on your show a few weeks ago. This is the crown jewel of the Republic.
Ben Berkhwan
Amen.
Jenny Story
They're going to do everything they can to take it right here. Texas crown jewel of the republic.
Steve Bannon
I was shocked that we had Peter McElvona come over from London and talk about how far, quite frankly, Dallas, Fort Worth metroplex in North Texas is compared to where London was in the same time. And London's gone. This is a guy, the probably the smartest guy about Islamic takeover in all of England. He came for a week. And when I heard that, I talked to Jenny and Karen Sigman. We got Gerd Villers here. But I will tell you, when I came down here, we're here for a couple of months, it was much farther developed than I thought. And here's why I asked. I asked McElvenny I said, how can you say Texas is worse than London in the same time period when they started? He goes, when they brought. When the British colonies sent people back, and that's when the first Muslim wave came. He said, the British is so hierarchical, they would have nothing to do with them. So no business relationship, no political relationship, no media relationship. And they just. They started these little shops, and next thing you know, they brought more and more and bread. Next thing you know, they got 20% of London. They control London. The mayor is more radical than Mandami here. He said the business community and the real estate community welcomed them with open arms to build these mosques, to build these Islamic centers. Peter asked me, said, how big is the halal food business just in the Dallas metroplex? I go, I have no idea. Is there even a halal food business in that thing? He says, it's about 150 to 200 million dollars a year because they're getting into schools. This is the business community, the situation. And this is why Texas is so important on this topic. H1B visas, grassroots. This is why Cornyn. Cornyn is just not an individual. He's a symbol of what we have to do when they put $100 million to destroy him. And. And this is why it's so important now to put meat on the bones of Prop 10 and to drive it forward, because the political class here is not going to do it unless you put a band that you've got so many great young people coming into politics. Last night, I hosted dinner for about 25 or 30 young Texans who are openly, say, we're right wing. It was a third of them from Ivy League colleges. These people are the future of this country. I told them that.
Ben Berkhwan
Amen.
Steve Bannon
And that's because of Texas. I said, if you take over Texas and control Texas and run out all this Islamic invasion, you'll control. It's the fulcrum. It's the pivot you need to control the United States because it's our most important state.
Ben Berkhwan
Right. You know, one point I want to make about the halal food is a portion of every dollar that comes in. It's funneled back to causes that are contrary to why you guys are here. And so there's so many of these little insidious things moving around that are unknown to most people around here. So read up about it. As a matter of fact, there's a panel later today. There's a meeting of a couple of hundred grassroots leaders. So, you know, it's a movement that I promise you will not stop.
Steve Bannon
No, it's. In fact, this is just the start of it. Okay. Talking about Patriot Mobile, by the way, turn around, folks. Have you seen the very low key. Is that a bus?
Ben Berkhwan
That is called a charter. A bus, yes.
Steve Bannon
And you take this around the country.
Ben Berkhwan
Yeah, that's been to most Jason Aldean concerts. It's been to some NASCAR races.
Steve Bannon
Oh, hang on. All right, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. We're doing cpac. We do the grassroots rallies. This is the Jason Aldean concert tour bus. Oh, and every now and again we stopped by a NASCAR race. I got it now. Now it all makes sense.
Ben Berkhwan
Well, he is a redneck. 31 number one hits, right? You know more about it than me.
Jenny Story
Yeah, 31.
Ben Berkhwan
He loves this country. And that's what one of his. He's got 31 number one hits, but try that in a small town, dude. When you hear that, it just makes you kind of like that dude means it.
Steve Bannon
Amen. Tell us about Patriot Mobile because you guys are helping to do so much to drive this movement forward. You've been great partners of War Room. You've been a great partner at cpac. You guys, by the way, if it hadn't been for Jenny's story, really getting organized in the day, there's 150 or 250 grassroots leaders in Texas. We would have never gotten Prop 10 done. So you guys have been at the tip of the spear as far as getting things done.
Ben Berkhwan
She is the warrior. I admit that. She runs the business and runs the house. Look, I play second fiddle all the time and I love it.
Jenny Story
She even buys his suits.
Steve Bannon
No. Yeah. She done dressing. Scott, what do you got for us?
Jenny Story
All right, so real quick. So yesterday, one of the speakers was talking about something that I thought was very relevant. He said, look, we don't have a George Soros on our side stroking checks, right? So what we have to do to win, outside of cheating, which we don't do on our side, but what we have to do to win, is we got to lift each other up and support companies that believe in what we believe in. And that's why we exist at Patriot Mobile. Right? That's what we're called to do. So if you're not already a Patriot Mobile customer, you need to be. You need to come talk to us right over here. We'll get you signed up today.
Steve Bannon
All right?
Jenny Story
Let's make it happen.
Steve Bannon
Best service. What do you got there? What's this?
Jenny Story
All right, this, guys, this is a really cool little Deal. It's not. It looks like a hockey puck, but it's not. It's the Patriot Mobile WI Fi hotspot. This little guy right here, you throw it in your backpack, throw it in your truck, throw it in your car. As you're moving around, it's constantly searching for the strongest cell phone signal. It's not tied to one network. So as you're moving around, I've been. I got one coming your way, brother. There you go. Beautiful. And you guys can get these things right over here. We got them right here. All right.
Steve Bannon
By the way, anything you want to close with about your team?
Ben Berkhwan
Yeah, you know what? I want to say thank you to God. It's all his. We. We're here to honor and glorify our creator. He walked this earth, died for our sins, and we want to honor him with everything we have. And then secondly, I want to thank you for our team over here and, well, number two, real America's voice, Rob Sig. Your team, Steve. We love you guys. We want to do you guys do well. We do well. We lift each other. It's a rising tide, lifts all boats. And lastly, our team over there is awesome. They're always on the road. They live on that bus. And they're here to serve others and their creator.
Steve Bannon
Make the switch today. Patriot Mobile. Let's give it up. Ben Berkhwan. What do you got? All right, speaking of, folks, by the way, I got my Patriot Mobile in my pocket. I did the speed test.
Joe Kaufmann
It was the fastest in the room today.
Steve Bannon
All right, sir, you're running for office. You got a picture here with the great Tom Holman. Your name, where you're running, and why this fight is against Islam so important?
Mike Lindell
So I'm.
Joe Kaufmann
I'm Joe Kaufmann. I'm running for U.S. congress in Florida's District 23 against Jared. I was. I was the Republican nominee in 2024, where I got 48% of the vote. It was the. It was the largest vote percentage of Republican to ever run for that seat in the closest race in all of Florida. My background is a national security and counterterrorism. Recently, I led the shutdown of a pro Hamas.
Steve Bannon
I got. Hang on for one second. So you're for going to Tehran and overthrowing the regime, right?
Joe Kaufmann
I am, and I disagree.
Steve Bannon
Okay. How many children do you have in the military? Did you serve in the military?
Joe Kaufmann
I didn't. My grandfather did in World War II. And I appreciate every one of our servicemen.
Steve Bannon
I know you appreciate. I'm asking a question. Do you have children in the military?
Joe Kaufmann
No, I don't.
Steve Bannon
You have no skin in the game, right?
Joe Kaufmann
Amazing 13 year old daughter that we're raising to be a good moral child.
Steve Bannon
If you had children in the military, would that change your attitude?
Joe Kaufmann
Absolutely not. Because by calling this a forever war, what you're doing is scaring the American public when they should be scared about a nuclear armed Iran that could one day hit America just like they are hitting their Muslim, their, their fellow Muslim countries next door and their friends, by the way, next door. They can hit us one day soon. So I appreciate President Trump. I'm Maga. I support Trump. I also support Prime Minister Netanyahu going
Steve Bannon
to war against our enemy February 28th. And I'm going to get you after the break. You stick right there, my man.
Matthew Conway
Okay?
Steve Bannon
I'm enjoying it enough. On February 28th, when we bombed, was a more imminent threat coming from Tehran or from Mandami in New York City, of which one third of his vote came from Jewish people? Where was a bigger threat from terror?
Joe Kaufmann
From Tehran because a nuclear army.
Steve Bannon
Mandami. The enemy inside this gate is not a bigger threat. The enemy Islamic invasion of Texas is not a bigger threat.
Joe Kaufmann
We made the enemy inside this gate because we allowed our enemies to come to this country. I don't want to see. I don't want to see this.
Steve Bannon
Who thinks Tehran's a bigger threat? Or Mandami? In the first off, who think is Mandami a bigger threat or Tehran a bigger threat? First off, Mandami, is he a bigger threat? The United States. Whoa, okay. Is Tehran a bigger threat than Mandami?
Ben Berkhwan
Absolutely.
Steve Bannon
Anybody? No.
Joe Kaufmann
Hey, I fight against the jihad you got to make. I was just.
Steve Bannon
I don't know if it's split. We just got to cut. Let me ask you again. The Islamic invasion of Texas and Mandami, is that a bigger threat to the United States than Tehran? I would say yes. Who doesn't agree with that? Give me a hand.
Jim Rickards
Okay.
Steve Bannon
I got some guys back there. I got some.
Joe Kaufmann
What you do is.
Steve Bannon
Can you get over to see Ben? Hang on one second. You're good.
Ben Berkhwan
Thanks.
Joe Kaufmann
You fight. You fight both because both are threats. We don't want to become France. We don't want to become England. We don't want to have Mom Donnies all over our country. That's what I'm doing in South Florida. I was just sued by Care man Maga once by twice.
Steve Bannon
You're gonna have to weigh and measure all of it.
Joe Kaufmann
Once but twice.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Hang on. You have to weigh and measure all of it. Take a short commercial break. The Attorney General Tennessee is going to join us and Rob Sig, founder, CEO and Chairman. I'm blaming you for all of it. A real America's voice.
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Jenny Story
War room.
Steve Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, welcome back. We're going to get into the debate in a moment. Have some War Room posse members that are let's march to Tehran. I think their voices have to be heard. But President Trump left the Senate with one objective, right? Remember, the one objective is pass the Save America Act. So the Senate last night passed a Department of Homeland Security to get TSA funded and paid. But there's always a hang up. They kept out ICE and customs and Border Patrol. That's the best deal Thune could offer the president. Neil McCabe's at the White House in the White House press room. Neil, you've got more breaking news that's even worse than that. What is it?
Neil McCabe
Well, the Senate will be going home. They actually when they passed the, they passed the Homeland Security funding Bill shortly after 2am and that was no roll call. That was unan, that was unanimous voice vote. So no one's on the record voting for or against, which I guess the Democrats cut the Republicans a break there. And so then they said, hey, we're taking a break. We will reconvene April 13th. And so that's after Greek Easter.
Steve Bannon
Steve. Holy. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. The Senate after John Thune did nothing to help President Trump. SAVE act, Save America Act. Mike Lee, we would stream it. You saw Mike Lee every night speaking Eric Schmidt. Right. You saw the same people going up there, pushing the president's number one priority. I thought we were going to seize the floor and we were going to break the filibuster and we're going to force the Democrats into a standing filibuster. How did they pass a bill that doesn't fund ice, doesn't fund customs and border, which is the way that we've secured the border. And President Trump shut it down his first 90 days and don't even talk about the SAVE act, and then go home or not back to April 13th.
Neil McCabe
Yeah, it was a case of jet fumes, Steve. Everybody wanted to go home for Holy Week and that was it. There's nothing more powerful than jet fumes from Reagan National. And so, you know, McCormick was on the floor last night, Huston was on the floor last night. Mike Lee was on the floor last night, all talking about the Save America Act. Murkowski, the Alaska Republican, she took the floor to go against the Save America Act. And so that's where we left it. We passed Homeland Security. So the TSA lines and everything will. All of that pressure from Democrats and their media allies goes away and then they come back in two weeks to look at it again. Steve, maybe.
Steve Bannon
So what, by the way, I want to ask the audience, what do you think ought to happen with John Thune? Has John Thune delivered for President Trump's agenda? What should he's the leader of the Senate. What should happen with John Thune? He hasn't delivered anything. No ICE funding, no customs and borders. So we don't have the secure border. Probably going to send the National Guard down there. Or the great Border Patrol works without pay, and supposedly, theoretically, they've got pay from the original big, beautiful bill. But there's a big argument, can you actually use that cash? But he walked away from President Trump's number one priority, which is the Save America Act. So I'm a show of hands, how many believe John Thune should be removed as the leader? We got to, when they get back, we're going to get all over the Senate about doing this. Neil, stick around at the White House. We're going to come back to you. There's more breaking news there about the war. Jim Rickards is with me. Jim, do you think the president is preparing the American people right now for a further escalation like A ground invasion on Carg island or one of the islands around the Straits of Hormuz? Or do you think he's leading to say, hey, look, I'm going to negotiate as good a deal as possible with this, whatever's left of this regime, and then we're going to get out?
Jim Rickards
I think the former. He's preparing the American people for boots on the ground, including coming ashore with the Marines coming from the area with the 82nd Airborne. And as we said earlier, that's the only choice he has because the Iranians are not negotiating. He's really not negotiating. You know, Jared Kushner and Steve Wyckoff, they've done a very good job, but now they've got a reputation internationally. They're not really diplomats, they're dealmakers. And that's okay. Sometimes you want a deal, but they're like Lucy in the football at this point, which is, hey, you know, Wyckoff will come out Thursday. Negotiation, hey, it went really well. We're going to meet again on Monday, and then Friday night we bomb them. So it's like, okay, how many times are you going to fall for that? How many times can.
Steve Bannon
Lucy, isn't that what the Iranians think? They're Israeli agents. Right? I mean, one of the reasons they want JD Vance or Marco Rubio or somebody else is that that's happened twice so far. Correct.
Jim Rickards
So we went 40 years wondering when Charlie Brown was going to rise up to Lucy. But the Iranians have. I'm not dissing Wyckoff and Kushner. I'm just saying their act is now pretty transparent, so they're not going to play that much of a role. There is zero history of bombing your way to regime change. It has never happened. Maybe Japan, 1945, but even there, that
Steve Bannon
was after a long two nuclear weapons.
Jim Rickards
That's right, but it's never happened. Now, you can bomb, you can degrade, you can get air supremacy. That can all be true, and they're doing a great job. But that's not regime change. The Iranians are not negotiating. So there's really. It's not a matter of opinion. There's no choice except escalation.
Steve Bannon
Ben, we've got a couple of the war in posse that say, hey, let's march at Tehran. Let's go ahead and hear that.
Javier Negre
Yep.
Steve Bannon
Sir, running for judge here in Dallas. What's your opinion on that?
Matthew Conway
If you're going to commit America's finest to go out and possibly pay the highest price, we owe it to them to finish the job as Rush Limbaugh said, peace comes after victory, and you
Ben Berkhwan
can't achieve full victory.
Matthew Conway
As I was taught in my military training, until you have an infantryman with his rifle on the ground holding it there, then it's yours.
Ben Berkhwan
Our commander in chief isn't George Bush. It isn't Obama. It's Donald J. Trump, and he. And Hagseth and General Kaine. I know what they're doing, and I trust in Trump, and I think we should trust in Trump.
Steve Bannon
Your boots on the ground, but not necessarily to Tehran.
Ben Berkhwan
I was in the infantry. You can't win a war without infantry. You have to go in. I mean, we could go in quick and get out.
Steve Bannon
Take. Take the.
Ben Berkhwan
Take the uranium. Go in and take the uranium bunker. Bust those palaces that are underground.
Steve Bannon
Can I have the gentleman with the hat just come back. Come back up. Judge, if you had, if we had to ask you, what's the number one lesson we should take from Iraq, what would you say?
Matthew Conway
We didn't finish the job in Iraq.
Steve Bannon
Do what?
Matthew Conway
We did not finish the job in Iraq.
Steve Bannon
I can't hear you. We didn't finish the job. We didn't finish the job in Iraq?
Matthew Conway
No, sir, we did not.
Steve Bannon
What was the job that we didn't finish?
Matthew Conway
I think that when Bush the elder saw the slaughter on the road to Baghdad that he got cold feet and pulled out. He should have gone on in and established a presence, put our troops there with our weapons to make sure it is a peaceful and good exchange turnover.
Steve Bannon
I've got some Iranian ladies here as well. Let's bring them up. Come here. Come here. Ma', am, what is your thoughts or what are your thoughts on this?
K
There are already Iranian boots on the ground. MEK affiliated resistance units have been active on the ground for the past past 10 years. So they have a clear plan. And even five days before the whole conflict started, 250 armed members of the MEK attacked Khamenei's headquarters in the middle of t. In a heavily secured area. So there are boots on the ground, but those are Iranian boots. And the Iranian people with their organized resistance will do the regime change by themselves.
Stephen K. Bannon (Ad reads)
Okay,
Steve Bannon
They are. They are saying that one of the tomorrow in the reports and people in D.C. are saying one of the biggest strategic miscalculations that comes from the intelligence community and particularly the Israeli intelligence, was that Netanyahu and the Israelis way oversold the Iranian people in an uprising to actually overthrow the this regime itself. It hasn't materialized as of yet. You may be talking about an intention and people want to do it. But so far, we're almost four weeks into this war and people are looking at how we got here. One of the biggest things that there was supposed to be a spontaneous uprising of the Iranian people. Like it was back in January where you had 30,000 people, looks like killed. That uprising hasn't taken place and there's a lot of people in Washington saying, hey, we may have been oversold, the Israelis may have been oversold by their relationship with the Iranian resistance. Any thoughts?
K
Yes, I would say that, you know, it's very hard to come out on the streets when there is bombing on streets of Tehran or Iran. So the rate the uprisings, we had nine major uprisings in the past 10 years and every single one of them has been bigger, wider, deeper and more radical than before. So these uprisings will continue when the time comes.
Steve Bannon
Let me ask you, as people talk about, we talk about this bombing campaign and President Trump yesterday, Pete Hexseth was very specific in the war cabinet. He didn't mention ground troops. He said more intense bombing every day. President Trump has said, you basically have till April 6 to negotiate a deal. I'll start bombing the electric grid. As this bombing goes on, how far into it do we have to get to? We're going to see a spontaneous uprising of Iranian patriots.
K
We need to have, we need to focus on the people of Iran and the organized resistance. You know, that's something that, it's missing from the American, you know, media that there is armed struggle inside Iran. As I said, you know, to 250 Armed Struggle members attacked Khamenei's headquarters. But in the news, we did not see much in the Western media. So we need to focus on the people of Iran, the organized resistance and the National Council of Resistance of Iran with Mariam Rajavi's leadership, which they have a 10 point plan with thousands of endorsements by the parliamentary.
Steve Bannon
Do you folks think there's going to be a spontaneous simultaneous uprising of Iranian resistance of any, of any meaning, of any meaningful thing that's going to overthrow at least the regime? And we now know that the intelligence reporting this morning, they've only used one third of their missiles. This is the latest intelligence. Once you hang on to after the break, Jim Burke is going to be with us. Eric Bolling is going to join with us. Look, you guys have to come up, you have to come up with your own opinion of, on this, right? This is going to be a huge and massive issue in the coming weeks. And President Trump's going to need your back. But you've got to think this through and come nobody can sell you on any position. This is why we're trying to put out all the possible information and have every various alternative out there so that you can think it through, come to use your own agency, because this is going to be the number one topic. It's already the number one topic, but I mean, going to come to a decision point a couple weeks now. Jim Rickens here, Eric Bolling and of course, the War Room Posse. Short commercial break Back in a moment.
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Steve Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay. Welcome back to cpac. Whom on one more time, where do people go to get because you're putting these posters up all over the place. Yeah. So my next goal is to partner with Patriot Mobile, put up the Woman Life Freedom murals all around Texas. Above it say don't Sharia my Texas. That's the goal. And Steve one one question for you. Will you be bold Enough at the end of your broadcast to stand with
Jenny Story
me by that banner and take a picture with me.
Steve Bannon
Maybe tomorrow morning before we do the show today, I've got to go to a meeting with the grassroots, but we're going to do it. Do it. Sounds good, brother. Thank you so much. Thank you, man. Everybody make sure you go to his website for these amazing murals. Incredible. Thank you, sir. Let's go to. Let's go to Tennessee. We've got the Attorney General of the great state of Tennessee, Scarmiti. Sir, you have been the lead of this fight to make sure that we eventually get justice when it comes to Live Nation and Ticketmaster. Folks here, particularly War Room Posse, are already saying, hey, getting ripped off every day by Ticketmaster, getting ripped off by Live Nation. You've been bold enough when the Justice Department backed off, you were bold enough to take this case on. Why did you take it on and what are you trying to prove?
Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti
It's a lousy deal for American consumers. People have been getting ripped off for 30 plus years. This is a monopoly. That's been a problem and getting worse. They've been under a consent decree with the Department of Justice since 2010. The Obama Department of Justice let them off. They've been dragging it out. They keep violating what they agreed to do. And we just see all the different ways they're ripping people off with the trial. We see evidence of how they're laughing, about how they're able to rip people off, about how stupid their customers. That's not right. In America, we believe in markets, we believe in competition. And when those aren't working, the government has to step in and make sure that consumers benefit from. From the competitive forces that have made this country great?
Steve Bannon
Sir, is your ultimate objective to. To break up Ticketmaster and Live Nation, or is it just to get a better deal for. For consumers?
Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti
If a breakup's what it takes to fix the problem, we want to break up. We want to do whatever's going to solve this so that we don't have to be back in court in a few years fighting the same fight over again.
Steve Bannon
Attorney General Scarmetti, where can we have a little problem getting you? We want to get you back on. We're in studio. I want people to get full information of where they can get you. So what's your social media and is there a website people can go to to get the information of why you've taken this on and why people consider you the tip of the spear for this whole issue about Live Nation and Ticketmaster?
Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti
Yeah, if you want to look us up at X, it's AG Tennessee. We got. We got our feed there, and we'll make sure all the information's up.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. We'll get you back on. We got a better connection. Attorney General. The gray stead of Tennessee. Let's give it up for him. Fighting for you, Amy Kramer. We got a couple of minutes. What? You've partnered up with Joe Allen on artificial intelligence. You're one of the founders of the Tea Party movement. Tell me, what are you doing now on artificial intelligence? David Sacks got fired yesterday because the framework they put out for the president is not going to work.
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Steve Bannon
This is third. Three strikes are out. He had his third strikes out. What are you trying to accomplish?
Amy Kramer
Well, I hope that that works. And he does not have that much influence. But big AI is a problem right now in our country. They want to control everything. Yes. Protect families, not big AI. Humans first and we. Humans first is here. We're a new startup, and we are here to rein in big AI and put safeguards around it. I want to be clear. We're not anti AI and we're not anti tech, but they should not have free reign over our lives. And right now, they are hurting our children. Children are dying. Just between November. Between February 2024 and November of 2025, three teenage boys took their own lives to. At the encouragement of Chatbots. And the only reason we know about it is lawsuits. They aren't required to report this, and that's unacceptable. We need to protect our kids. We need to protect our families.
Steve Bannon
How many. How many people think that tech oligarchs are looking out for your best interest on artificial intelligence? Anybody? How many think the tech. How many think the tech oligarchs are looking out for your children and your family and everything they're trying to do? Anybody? Why? They're inherently. They're inherently wrong about this. I don't want to say they're inherently evil, but they are inherently evil also. But they've tried to push this three times. Look at this right here. Humans first. This is why Joe Allen has. Joe Allen been fantastic over the last five years. It started five years ago because he said, guess what? In a couple of years, this is going to be the single biggest issue facing the American people. We first had Joe Allen on. People call me up and going, what in the hell is transhumanism? What are you doing? What is this voodoo? I said, guys, it's everything. Yes, ma'.
Amy Kramer
Am. Listen. I was listening in my car. It was in the spring of 2021. And you had Joe Allen on. And I'm like, what is this guy on here talking about? This pertains to nothing important. When we were focused on the stolen election and I turned my radio off and look where I am now. But this is the most important issue, I believe, of our lifetime.
Steve Bannon
Why do you think that?
Amy Kramer
Because they want to control everything. They. And this is the other thing. These billionaire oligarchs are spending hundreds of millions of dollars, it's estimated over a half a billion dollars to buy elections this cycle to get elected officials that are sympathetic to their cause. David Sacks. They want no regulations. I don't care what they say.
Mike Lindell
We got.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go right now? You got Humans first here. Where's your booth? This is what Joe Allen's now working on full time. Besides coming on the War Room. Amy Kramer is one of the founders of the Tea Party movement. She's. You've signed up full time with these people, right?
Amy Kramer
I did. I am fully committed to this. I'm the director of Conservative Coalition. Our booth is right over here on the other side of the stage. Go to Humans first dot com. I want to hear your stories about how AI is impacting your lives, whether it's your kids, data centers, job loss. And on April 22nd, we're having a town hall in Washington D.C. april 22nd. April 22nd in Washington D.C. people's AI Town Hall. And there will be members of Congress there. We. They need to hear from us. My faith is not in the government.
Steve Bannon
April 22nd. Is it free?
Amy Kramer
It's absolutely free.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Fantastic. Humans first dot com. Let's give it up for Joe Allen and Amy Gramer. We need people to sign up Humans first say, where's your booth? You see Humans first.
Amy Kramer
Yo, Alice is over there waving.
Steve Bannon
Hey, Alice. So I want everybody to sign up today. Show your support for Joe. Thank you, ma'. Am. Amy said something really important when we first had him on. People go, why are you taking up time? Can we keep this? We'll put it up on the other rap shows. Thank you. Amy Kramer. Oh, my God. Mike Lindell. What do you think of the control of artificial intelligence? What do you think of the. By controlling artificial intelligence, you're going to be the governor. You got to have an opinion about this.
Mike Lindell
I warned people about that a long time ago. And I'm going to tell you guys, we have a lot of problems in Minnesota where the Trojan horse for Sharia law. When I'm governor, I'm going to ban it immediately. And they I did the. I did my speech. I got CPAC's endorsement to run for. To be the governor of Minnesota. You guys, I want to give. I want to give everybody hope though for these midterms and everything. What we didn't have five years ago, remember 1.2 million Americans were deplatformed off sucker buck's Facebook, Jack Dorsey's Twitter, YouTube, Vimeo. We were suppressed. And we didn't have a voice. Our voice was the war room, CPAC and play and outlets like that or the media attacking. That was it. That's what we had the media attacking. Where I was able to get the voice out. What we have now is. Our voice is bigger than ever. You all evolve. When. When we. When you hear things, good things happening, you're able to spread the word. And this is the difference where we have a voice now in Minnesota that they say it would be impossible. It's not. It's okay. It's not impossible. I. They've tried to suppress me up there, the Minnesota media. You wouldn't even know I'm running. But now with what I'm going to do is use what our great president did. Rallies all over Minnesota. I'm going to bring the word to the people, get around the media that attacks me every day. And you guys can support it. Mike Lindell gov.com Mike Lindell gov.com I promise I'll work 18 hours a day to win Minnesota.
Steve Bannon
Okay? We love it. Now. Now what the people want to hear is what's the deal? Give us the deal. What's the deal for the past.
Mike Lindell
And you guys with enough happy talk
Steve Bannon
about Governor, talk about what they want to hear about a deal.
Mike Lindell
All right, you guys, you know they said Minnesota, the media. And I did go on. They said, isn't my pillow bankrupt? I said no. Who told you that? We survived the biggest attack in history of a company. We actually had a woke company by our building a year and a half ago. This. They wouldn't renew our lease. So we said, you know what? We're resourceful. We moved to another building the last six weeks. What they said would be impossible. And instead of moving everything, we're giving deals. 80% off and free shipping for that promo code. War room. You go to my. So that way we don't have to ship it twice. This is the last week before the. Before we have to be out. Go to mypillow.com and we go there. You'll see all the products. We have over 200. Get that war room. Free shipping. This is it. Everybody, when they lock that building, we want to have everything shipped out to you free, right to your front door. Promo code, war room.
Steve Bannon
Let's give it up to Mike Lindell. Do we love my pillow? Mike Lindell, what's the first thing you're going to do as governor of Minnesota?
Mike Lindell
First thing I'm going to do the first day is ban Sharia law, bring back the Minnesota plague and take the satanic statue out of the capitol that waltz put in there. And we're not going to be said, well, let's put this in there to be fair. We're not being fair to the devil.
Steve Bannon
Michael. Give it up for Michael Andell.
Mike Lindell
God bless you. Thanks, Steve. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Now everybody's coming up to me said, this is my doppelganger. Do you believe that this is a well lived in body? Who are you? We're not related, right? Well, we don't know. You're Irish, you're from Ireland, right?
Matthew Conway
Take that one, Steve. I think we just share this Irish ancestry and of course, Irish good looks goes a long way in life.
Steve Bannon
Tell me you're, you're. You're now a podcast host. You got your own show, you're from Philadelphia. Give people a little bit of the background.
Matthew Conway
Yeah, I host the Matthew J. Show podcast in Philadelphia, covering current events and, you know, politics. Pretty much what you do here on the War Room, Monday through Friday at 7pm on Rumble NX. And you know, I have a lot of followers and I have some detractors and they refer to me as Walmart Bannon.
Steve Bannon
So what is on the MAGA movement? What is going on in Philadelphia and why would you come out here to cpac? What are the big issues for our brothers in the greater Philadelphia area that are MAGA Trump supporters?
Matthew Conway
Well, it's difficult because, you know, I am in the minority in Philadelphia, but I think it's what everyone shares here. The secure borders, getting rid of dei, making prudent decisions in our overseas endeavors, things like that.
Steve Bannon
You say that. Where do you, where does your audience stand on the war right now?
Matthew Conway
I think pretty much split. Pretty much split down the middle.
Steve Bannon
Split like in what way? Half want to get out, half want to continue on. Absolutely.
Matthew Conway
I think a lot of my followers and listeners want us to focus on America and there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
Steve Bannon
When they say focus on America, what are the couple things that they focus on? They just funded last night dhs and they didn't fund ICE and they didn't fund Border patrol. What would your audience like to see? People Focus on.
Matthew Conway
Well, one of the things I want the audience to know. We have a service, but DA. Larry Krasner in Philadelphia.
Steve Bannon
Terrible, terrible.
Matthew Conway
Who has been attacking ICE on a daily basis.
Steve Bannon
Arrests every ICE officer, right?
Matthew Conway
Yes. He wants to arrest ice. The great men and women of ice. It's, it's. It's a sad state of affairs in Philadelphia. I wish somebody would run there.
Steve Bannon
So where do people get your podcast? What's your social media?
Matthew Conway
Matthew, you can find me Matthew J Show on X Rumble, Spotify. Just put me in any search engine you'll find the podcast.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Give it up for Matthew Conway. We're gonna take a short commercial break. We'll be right back.
Matthew Conway
That's great.
Mike Lindell
We will fight till they're all gone
Ben Berkhwan
we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the season.
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Senator Bob Hall
Thank you very much.
Steve Bannon
Okay, talk to us about your efforts. In back of Prop 10. You talked at the very first time we had the grassroots leaders. You told us what to do, the grassroots. And the citizens of Texas came through with almost 2 million votes. Where do we go from here? There's going to be a grassroots leader meeting this afternoon to talk about the next steps. What are you recommending?
Senator Bob Hall
I'm recommending that we take this head on. And remember, this is an issue of law. It has nothing to do with an ethnicity or with a religion. This is a difference between Sharia law and American and Texas law. And as we move forward, the three most important things we've got to remember about this is number one, messaging. Number two is messaging and number three is messaging. This is an issue of law, not of people or religion. The main difference is their system was a political system that created a religion that follows Sharia law. America is a religion that created a government in which religion has no role to play in our government and therefore we are totally incompatible. We saw what happened in Europe. We see how it is now taken over there with cultural jihad beginning to creep in here. We have got to stop this. We have to keep American laws for American courts and not have any communities that follow anything except our local laws, period.
Steve Bannon
As you look out at the range of issues facing Texas and the next generations, where does this rank? Is this the most important thing you're working on? It has to be dealt with now. Is it the top three? Tell the people your priorities.
Senator Bob Hall
Okay, I've got. Priority one is to continue the work we began last session to protect our electric grid from natural and man made threats. We started it, we need to finish it. Because it would take one small nuclear weapon to take out our entire electric grid from coast to coast and we've got to get that done. After you took a look at what's happening in Iran, very likely could get a nuclear weapon from one of our other enemies and finish their job. Number two is election integrity. We began the process by eliminating the gap between early voting and election. But we've got to move to more important things like a shorter voting period, limiting the mail in ballots and hand marked paper ballots. We got to get those passed this session. Those are my top three. Sharia law. Number one, electric grid protection. Number two, and protecting our elections. Number three.
Steve Bannon
Senator hall, where do people get you? What website? Your social media? Because people consider you one of the leaders of this anti sharia law movement.
Senator Bob Hall
SenatorBobhall.com is our Senator Bobhall.com is our website and you want to sign up and get our newsletter. I just put out two of them on the fourth most important and that is to stop the gambling in Texas. Stop gambling? We've got to terminate the lottery. And folks, we have found corruption in bingo even here in Texas. And their local game rooms have got to be ended. I write about them. Senator Bob Hall.com and no best way to follow.
Steve Bannon
No casinos in Texas. No casino.
Senator Bob Hall
No casino.
Steve Bannon
Let's give it up for Senator Bob Hall.
Senator Bob Hall
Thank you. Thank you.
Ben Berkhwan
Steve.
Matthew Conway
Good to see you.
Javier Negre
How are you?
Steve Bannon
Okay. Real America's voice Espanol. Javier. Let's give it up for him. Why is Spain not being an ally to the United States? We need Spain. We need Spain to help us. Hell, you guys kicked the Muslims out in 1492. It's what led to the founding of America. You guys should be. Where's Isabella when we need her? Where's. Where's King? Was it King Juan Isabella? We need them. Where are they now? Why are these Spaniards? Why are they not back in the United States? Why are they back in the Muslims?
Javier Negre
Because George Soros and Alex Soros took control over our government. We are governed by the lefties like Pedro Sanchez. Now we have a problem with a girl, a young girl who was like killed by the state because she was depressed. She was raped by illegal aliens. And the state just say to her, you can be killed. And we are very upset with that.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. She's raped by illegal aliens? Illegal aliens, gang raped?
Javier Negre
Yes.
Steve Bannon
And what does the state do?
Javier Negre
Kill her.
Steve Bannon
What do you mean they killed her?
Javier Negre
Like give her the right to kill
Steve Bannon
herself and yesterday the right for assisted suicide. Really what has happened in Spain, man?
Javier Negre
And it's crazy. There are enemy of United States right now. They are supporting by Hamas. They have been supporting by the regime of the Ayatollahs. And Pedro Sanchez is doing a really bad job is taking control because he has relationship with the globalist, with China, with Russia and all these guys. And in Rapin Espanol we are very happy to announce that we are going to be in 25 or 30 Hispanic top markets. So we are going to reach 12 million people. Because we want to fight against the Hispanic media outlets that are all the time attacking President Trump but owned by
Steve Bannon
source sources against Raf. Can Rafael Espanol beat Soros? Yeah.
Javier Negre
So Soros is buying a lot of media outlets and we want to fight against soros all the media outlets because they are taking control over this media outlet because they are attacking all the time to ice operation Anglo operation because President Trump is doing right. He's reporting illegal alien criminals. And in Rapun Espanol we are going to be telling to everybody in the right new show every single Sunday. I ate eight in the afternoon.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go to get rev Espanol and to find you for your White House reporting?
Javier Negre
Yeah, they can follow me. Ram Espanol in social media. In my social media. Javier Negre. And we are really happy with the support of Rip Sig and Parker Sid and your support of course because we have to win the midterms and the illegal and Hispanic markets are the key of the election and we have to fight against CNN Espanol, Univision and Telemundo which are all the time spreading lies against the White House.
Steve Bannon
Let's give it up for Javier.
Javier Negre
Thank you very much.
Steve Bannon
Make sure you support it. Okay. Thanks for the chance. Okay, 12:45, I want to see all you folks up in the big arena. I'm going to give a speech. It's going to be a barn burner. Right. And I think, I think I just may give a shout out to the war room posse and the grassroots efforts in the state of Texas US. We'll see you at 12:45. Natasha Owens is going to take us out. We'll see you back at 12:45 then this afternoon for the afternoon war room. You know you still need help from the boss. We need help from the boss.
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Date: March 27, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Location: CPAC, Texas
This episode of Bannon’s War Room broadcasts live from the second day of CPAC in Texas, delivering up-to-the-moment analysis and debate on pressing political, cultural, and national security issues. The discussions focus heavily on grassroots activism in Texas, opposition to Sharia law, concerns over Islamic influence, debates over foreign policy and the Iran conflict, the fight against monopolies like Ticketmaster, the perceived dangers of artificial intelligence, and strategies to empower conservative movements at both the state and national levels.
Prop 10 & Sharia Law Opposition
Political Undercurrents: Cornyn vs. Paxton
Debate on Iran & Domestic Threats
Boots on the Ground?
Philadelphia’s MAGA Minority
Mike Lindell: Minnesota Gubernatorial Bid
Steve Bannon, Opening:
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime.” (00:02)
Ben Berkhwan, on Texas:
“There for a while, I felt like it was going past the point of no return...they're coming here to take over.” (03:57)
Senator Bob Hall, on Sharia law:
“This is an issue of law, not of people or religion...We have got to stop this. We have to keep American laws for American courts.” (46:29)
Amy Kramer, AI Dangers:
“Big AI is a problem...They should not have free reign over our lives. Right now, they are hurting our children.” (33:57-34:51)
Steve Bannon, on Iranian resistance:
“One of the biggest strategic miscalculations...was that Netanyahu and the Israelis way oversold the Iranian people in an uprising to actually overthrow the regime itself. It hasn't materialized as of yet.” (24:48)
The episode is a fast-paced, unapologetically combative showcase of grassroots energy, conservative messaging, and debates around American identity, security, and technology. From Texas’s role as a political battleground to nationwide fights over tech monopolies and AI, the War Room amplifies voices fearful of cultural change while rallying for policy action and local organizing. Listeners hear both skepticism of mainstream politics and optimism that direct action and community can shape the future.
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