Episode 5254: Confusion Over The Objectives In Iran; The Real War We Are Facing In America Ideological Upheaval

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5254 Summary

Title: Confusion Over The Objectives In Iran; The Real War We Are Facing In America – Ideological Upheaval
Date: March 28, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Mark Lynch (South Carolina Senate candidate), Dr. Bradley Thayer (security policy expert)

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Episode Overview

Episode 5254 dives into two intertwined themes:

1. The lack of clarity and shifting objectives in America’s involvement with Iran and the broader Middle East, with sharp criticism of political and military leadership.
2. The “real war” within America—a cultural and ideological struggle rooted in what the host and guests describe as a century-long campaign by communism and the erosion of American identity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. American Involvement in Iran: Objectives, Doubts, and Analogies

• Bannon’s Frustration with Unclear Objectives:

  • Bannon pushes for explicit, public articulation from the current National Security Advisor, Marco Rubio, regarding U.S. war aims in Iran.
  • Skepticism is voiced about U.S. military strategy—are the aims really achievable in a mere four weeks, as stated?
    • “I think one of the things Marco has to do as national security advisor is come forward and lay out what he did on the tarmac and lay it out. Are those the objectives? …And those objectives are going to be met…” (05:01)

• Deep Historical Analogies:

  • Bannon draws on stories from Alexander the Great, Xenophon, Lawrence of Arabia, and more to frame the region’s intractable turmoil, frequent betrayals, and unique brand of double-dealing.
  • Key repeated warning: The Middle East’s history is replete with lessons against trusting apparent allies or expecting simple outcomes from intervention.
    • “First, what’s always consistent and should be totally consistent is that when you read history of this area… it’s always, wait for it, you’re getting double dealt the entire time.” (07:40)

• Demand for Arab Involvement:

  • Bannon repeatedly calls out U.S. protectorates in the Gulf—UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia—for not carrying their weight militarily in the current conflict.
  • Pushes the idea that if regional allies want security, they must lead military operations (especially against targets like Karg Island).
    • “It ought to be all Arabs, 100% Arabs…The counter argument is, oh Steve, you can’t do that… Well, maybe it goes on forever, but they’re the ones fighting it.” (08:50)

• Analogy to U.S. Troops and Sacrifice:

  • Emphasis on the extraordinary sacrifice and morality of U.S. servicemembers, contrasting those who have no “skin in the game” with military families.
  • Criticism of foreign labor, H1B visas, and globalist policies eroding American wages and chances for youth.
    • “Those kids in those carry battle groups... how many breaks have we gotten them?” (10:01)

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2. Lindsey Graham, Karg Island, and Internal GOP Conflict

• Lindsey Graham Under Fire:

  • A Fox News clip of Sen. Lindsey Graham calling for U.S./Marine control of Karg Island draws Bannon’s ire.
  • Bannon and Mark Lynch (Graham’s opponent) accuse Graham of “bloodlust,” disconnected war-mongering, and disrespecting military sacrifice.
    • “God bless the fallen. Well, thank you, Lindsay. People, I’m sure the parents of our honored dead feel great that you just kind of use that as a toss away line after you’ve had five bourbon and branches…” (22:00)
    • “First off, how the people in South Carolina keep sending Lindsey Graham back to the Senate is beyond comprehension…” (22:57)

• Mark Lynch’s Platform:

  • Lynch paints Graham as a traitor favoring open borders, amnesty, globalism, and even accuses him of funding America’s enemies.
  • Asserts this primary is a showdown not just between candidates but visions for American sovereignty.
    • “And with an informed ballot, it flips. I’m 34%, Lindsey goes to 23. He drops down. So it’s going to happen in 2026.” (22:57)
    • “He’s paying for the cause to take down this country. So why is Trump or anybody listening to his advice with a Warhol that’s taking our citizens’ money that we don’t have?” (25:30)

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3. The “Real” War: America’s Ideological Upheaval

• Dr. Bradley Thayer’s Historical Framing:

  • Thayer argues America’s institutions and identity are under ongoing attack by a century-old (since the Bolshevik Revolution) effort of communism.
  • He sees current struggles over immigration, Sharia law, and cultural values as direct outgrowths of this “Red-Green” (Marxist-jihadist) alliance.
    • “In order to understand the ideological upheaval that Americans face today… we’ve been locked in a long war, a 100 years’ war against communism…” (45:43)
    • “The stronger American identity is, the weaker communism is… So we need to turn that around and win this Hundred Years’ War finally and finally defeat communism…” (45:43)

• Bannon Doubles Down on Internal Threats:

  • Argues that unless America addresses its “enemies inside the wire” (i.e. internal subversion), external wars become irrelevant.
  • Repeated calls to put America first, economically and culturally, before taking on extended foreign commitments.
    • “Let’s take care of the inside the wire. Let’s clean that up before we talk to the Saudis about it.” (30:57)

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4. “Total War”—What Does It Mean?

• Not Necessarily Boots on the Ground:

  • Bannon clarifies repeatedly: "Total war” in his context involves leveraging all economic, financial, diplomatic, and military tools, especially targeting Iran’s economy and pressuring business partners.
  • He insists that allies must be brought in, or else U.S. war aims and commitments should be rethought.
    • “We use everything, every economic aspect we got. And all of our allies, they got to come in here. They don’t come in here, then you got to rethink your war aims. Very specific, Very specific.” (47:42)

• Marines, Sacrifice, and Unmatched Patriotism:

  • Bannon returns often to celebrating America’s military as a unique national treasure—arguing they deserve citizenship and rights like Roman citizens, and warning against their exploitation by elites like Graham or foreign interests.
    • “The most important asset we have is not the magnificent physical properties of the United States of America... The greatest resource is our young men and women...” (12:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Middle East Alliances:

  • “You can’t trust any of them because their word, like in the Judeo Christian west… No, they’re double dealing you the whole time. And the Arabs are double dealing us right now, double dealing us.”
    — Stephen K. Bannon (07:55)

• On Lindsey Graham and War:

  • “God bless the fallen. Well, thank you, Lindsay… parents of our honored dead feel great that you just kind of use that as a toss away line after you’ve had five bourbon and branches and you’re, you know, another one of your 1,000,000th hits on Fox News.”
    — Bannon, criticizing Graham's tone (22:00)

• On American Service Members:

  • “Those kids in those carrier battle groups… Did everything right from the time they were in grade school, everything right. And 12 million of them can’t get a job.”
    — Bannon (10:01)

• On Ideological War:

  • “We’ve been locked in a long war, 100 years’ war against communism since it was birthed in the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.”
    — Dr. Bradley Thayer (45:43)

• On U.S. Allies:

  • “Let’s get all the royal families over there… I want to see them in uniform getting ready to take Karg Island... I don’t want to see him in Palm… I want to see him in New York City… I want to see him in uniform.”
    — Bannon (16:53)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:03]–[11:00]: Bannon opening monologue—objectives in Iran, historical context, demand for clear articulation of US goals.
• [21:02]–[22:00]: Clip of Lindsey Graham on Karg Island, and subsequent pushback.
• [22:57]–[26:52]: Mark Lynch's campaign against Graham, accusations, and broader critique of American foreign and domestic policies.
• [30:46]–[34:05]: Bannon’s response to Lindsey Graham’s war rhetoric, Dr. Thayer book announcement and introduction.
• [34:05]–[38:56]: Dr. Thayer’s analysis of the war’s conduct, U.S. military dominance, leveraging the Iran-China relationship.
• [41:43]–[45:43]: Discussion shifts to the underlying ideological conflict within America.
• [45:43]–[47:16]: Dr. Thayer’s summary of the “100 Years’ War” against communism.
• [47:42]–[49:48]: Bannon’s clarification of “total war," updating the audience on U.S. strategy and expectations from allies.

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Conclusion: Main Takeaways

• The War Room paints a picture of U.S. war planning against Iran as muddled, lacking candor, and too reliant on U.S. manpower while allies reap the benefits.
• Bannon uses the current Middle East crisis to amplify themes of “America First,” push back against hawks in his own party, and warn of domestic ideological threats.
• The hosts and guests call for a stop to American over-extension, more demanding expectations of U.S. allies, and a rigorous internal defense against ideological subversion as the true “war” facing the country.

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For Further Info:

• Mark Lynch’s campaign: lynch4senate.com
• Dr. Bradley Thayer: X/Twitter @BradThayer, Getter @BradleyThayer

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Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going

medieval on these people.

Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

I know you try to do everything

in the world to stop that, but

you're not going to stop it.

It's going to happen.

[Mark Lynch]

And where do people like that go

[Stephen K. Bannon]

to share the big lie?

[Mark Lynch]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

If that answer is to save my

[Stephen K. Bannon]

country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Saturday 28th March year overlord 2026. We're here to make sure that you get information because MAGA Finch likes to make up their mind about, as Lincoln called it, public opinion. And this is why it can't be people yelling at you this way, yelling at you that way. Got to give you the facts and you come to your own conclusions. You're grown men and women and you've had tremendous, tremendous political successes in the past. We've had a couple, three speed bumps, I might add. But this is all a process now. The process is finding out as much about this as possible. So I think one of the things that Marco has to do as national security advisor is come forward and lay out what he did on the tarmac and lay it out. Are those the objectives? Those. The objectives. And those objectives are going to be met in the next two or two, they think, and it always be the war, right. But the planning is with the, with the, with Admiral Cooper and raising Kane, General Kane. And as Captain Fennell so brilliantly does when he comes on here, just walk through the defanging decline of the conventional military of the Iranians. We know there hasn't been an uprising. Now was that because the exquisite intelligence that members of the National Security Council go on stage and tell us the exquisite intelligence maybe won't so exquisite or was it we were misled. There's all kind of reports of Netanyahu promoting people. But this thing was going to happen. It was going to be. They're reminding me at the time and I said it. It's Bill Crystal in the same gang, the exact same Fox News crowd under Rupert Murdoch. Of course, then they had Ailes who was even better than the team they got now. Remember the roses? They're going to throw roses. They're going To Crystal. They're going to throw roses in the streets as the American troops walk into Baghdad and free them and they're going to put their thumbs in and get, you know, blue ink like in Afghanistan. And they're all going to be Jeffersonian Democrats and the world's going to live happily ever after because it's only democracy that these nations need. That's all they need. You saw the folly that that was. So now, why not total war when I say total war, total economic and financial war against the Persians and anybody in business with them. If we're going to have a possibility of young American men and women as combat troops inserted into the Middle east, inserted into the Persian Gulf and maybe even in mainland Persia, right, They're going to go back and do the Alexander the Great thing. I might add that Alexander the Great, after that trip back through Persia where he put two thirds of his army on boats and took them through the Strait of Hormuz and past Carg island, up to the Tigris and Euphrates to Babylon. I think Alexander the Great, as great as he was, was dead six months later when he got to Babylon, either through a fever he caught or maybe some poison they gave him because they thought, hey, maybe he's going to send us back across that hellhole. Remember, Alexander the Great had a revolt of his generals. The greatest group of. Better than Lee's lieutenants, better than some of the fighting generals we had in World War II, better than blackjack Pershing had on the American Expeditionary Force in World War I. His generals, and they're the ones that said, yo brother, we've gone too far. This land is horrible, these people are horrible. We gotta get the hell outta here and get back to Greece. Same as Xenophon told us later, the march up country with his, that mercenary army. It's always consistent. First, what's always consistent and should be totally consistent is that when you read history of this area, whether it's Xenophon or was it Arion, any of the histories of this, it's always, wait for it, you're getting double dealt the entire time. The whole purpose of Xenophon, the march up country, the mercenary army, the Greeks, they go in there, they're going to get paid by the Persians because you know, Darius and one of his brothers and they're always fighting each other. The whole area is just, the history is just, it's just, it's almost incomprehensible in the 21st century to read the histories of the brutality of the whole region. Read the history of Jerusalem, it's. You're like your jaw drops. The barbarity, the savagery of the people trying to conquer it and not conquer and people holding it and then tearing down a temple and then trying to build a temple again. And every, you know, the Assyrians and the Babylonians and the Persians. But hey, the one consistent thing, when you're in that part of the world from, from, from Alexander the Great to Xenophon to Lawrence of Arabia, you, You're being double dealt the entire time. You can't trust any of them because their word, like in the Judeo Christian west, when you sign a contract, hey, I got a contract, and, or make a deal or I shake, I give you a handshake. Because a handshake's better than a contract because it's your word. No, they're double dealing you the whole time. And the Arabs are double dealing us right now, double dealing us. Where are the Arab troops? Where's the Arab air force? Where's uae? Where's, Where's Qatar? Our great guys in Qatar, where are they? I want to see their planes, I want to see their missiles. They're bitching and moaning, hey, we're getting hit. When you're not protecting us, you know the United States is not protecting us. I know you're protectorates, but part of being a protectorate, you got to stand up when the, when the, when the alarm goes off and the bell rings, Right? When the bell rings, you got to be able to stand up. You got to be able to stand and deliver. And now it's time for them to deliver the first wave at Carg island to go take it, and the second wave at Carg island to hold. It ought to be all Arabs, 100% Arabs. The counter argument is, oh, Steve, you can't do that. If you do the Arabs and the Persians, you got the Persians. Nationalist war gone forever. Well, maybe it goes on forever, but they're the ones fighting it. Maybe it goes on forever. Maybe it's going to have to go on forever. Maybe all that bad blood's got to be, you know, you got to lance the ball and let the pus out. We've already made it. The Israelis already made it. A Persian nationalist thing. This is no. Where's the revolt against the Islamic theocracy? Those demons. Those demons, I might add, for all the happy talking, you got the today at cpac. They may even have the, the, the Shaw son. Remember the Shaw son last summer when he was in London and he, he stood up and gave a head of press conference. The Shah son stands up there and he goes, you know, we're committed to monarchy. You know, we're ready to go back. And some reporter goes, are you prepared? Because it looked like they're talking about a revolt in the streets, and this thing could be overturned, and there's this huge revolt. Are you prepared to go lead an interim government? They asked him the question, are you prepared now to go lead an interim government? His response was, you know, I'm kind of fully booked on my social calendar. Because it's August. I'm fully booked in Europe for my social calendar. But there could be availability, you know, maybe later in the fall. That was his answer. It's not serious. You know what's serious? You know what's serious? When they call Fort Bragg and they say, get the ready brigade ready to go. Then the young men and women get ready to go. You know why? You raised them right. That's the best we got. We ain't got any better than that. We don't have any better than that. Those kids in those carry battle groups. You go down in those engine rooms, and you go down in the damage control areas, and you look underneath and you look on that flight deck, and you see how many breaks have those kids had in the United States? Cause you got a country that's invaded by foreigners. You got H1B visas, you got AI, you got the big tech. They don't get a break. You got 12 million tech workers. You got 12 million kids who did it right, didn't do it like me. That's too hard. I can't do that. It's got to be another way to get around this. No, they did everything right from the time they were in grade school, everything right. And 12 million of them can't get a job. And the ones that get a job don't get great wages because guess what? We got so many foreign workers here. So those kids on that flight deck, the kids in those engine rooms, how many breaks have we gotten them? Right? You got the Arabs over here, and they're buying this and they're buying that, and they're living large. You don't think that upsets people? That upsets people. Big league. You go down to Texas, you go down to Texas and you've got this Islamic invasion, and they're rubbing your nose in it every day, how they're building this and building that, and they're building business with this business guy and this real estate guy. And they got the Texas political class in Austin protecting them. And people have to come out and get it done. And those kids, the kids in the two Marine expeditionary units, these Marines, you look at those Hispanic kids and you look at those white kids and the black kids, you look at them, all right, as they're getting ready to go prepare to. Haven't gotten to think, but they're getting in place to go answer their country's call to take a couple of islands in the Persian Gulf just like their grandfathers were there, to take the call to go take Tarawa and Peleliu and all of it. Didn't totally understand what the geopolitics were, the geoeconomics were, but understood we'd been. There was a sneak attack at Pearl harbor that I will tell you after nine investigations. There are a lot of questions, right? A lot of questions.

So.

But don't answer the call. You know what, you raised them up right. The guy asked the thing the other day, he's all for going to Tehran and marching Tehran and doing all this. I just said, hey, you got, you got any kid, you fought, you got any kids in? But no, you know, they do that. How about, but I got a 13 year old girl I'm raising as a moral person. And that was a good answer, solid answer. I'm not going to jump a guy when he says that I'm raising up a 13 year old to be a moral young person. My only thought is, dude, I got that. And that's great. That's what Burke was talking about, the civic design, the underpinnings of a society. But you don't think the parents that got those kids in that ready brigade right now, they're getting ready on the 82nd Airborne to go in, if they asked to go in, didn't raise them upright and raise them up to be moral. You don't think the people in those carrier battle groups and the submarines out there and the destroyers out there and those lamps, helicopter, the helicopters are out there and all the fighter sorties were doing. When they talk about 10,000, 10,000. Well, we had 10,000 sorties, 10,000 missions. That's Americans doing that every day. And we got it. And we got a, we have a, we have a tanker, right? We have a tanker that, that goes down and we got six whose parents decide that we don't want a public display of the, of the return of their remains. Were they not raised up right? You damn right they're raised up right. And it's not some happy talk that I'm raising something moral. We see it, we. It manifests itself. You Know how it manifests itself. They volunteered. They volunteered. They know what it's about and they volunteered. So if they're volunteering and their parents have raised them upright and they're the best we got, why don't we treat them like they're the best we got? First off, when they're back here, how about this? Let's make American citizenship at the level of Roman citizenship. Since we're the heirs of the Judeo Christian west and it went from kind of Athens to Jerusalem to Rome and that's what's been bequeathed to us, why don't we have American citizenship at the same level? So those kids that are over there that are in harm's way and about to potentially go into more harm's way, understand I got a special deal. You know what that is? I'm a citizen of the United States of America. And it's no foreigner going to come in my country because the system is to make sure foreigners don't have advantages. And so when I look at the graduate schools of all the tech schools and I look at all the medical schools, I look what's happening. Well, that couldn't possibly happen because I'm an American citizen. I'm first. The entire system rots. And yet we continue to call on the best we have. The most important asset we have is not the magnificent physical properties of the United States of America. It's not our capital, it's not our technology, it's not even our system. People that have a fetish on the Constitution. The Constitution is a magnificent document, but don't fetishize it, which Mark Levin and these guys do. The greatest resource is our young men and women with the Mark Levins and the Ben Shapiro don't mind at all. Thrown out there like trash. Get serious. Going to be serious. Going to go to war. Let's get serious about it. I'm all for it. I'm going to take them down. Let's do it. But let's have make sure that all the cards are flipped over and we got people that are pulling their weight. Let's start with the Arabs. Where are they? And I want to see a couple of checkstroke too. Not us giving them stuff. I want to, you know, we're talking about taking the Iranian oil. Let's get a carried interest.

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[Mark Lynch]

War room.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Look, you almost have to take the emotion out of the decision as you guys work through which way we go. Here in one of the engine room, you know, tells me that, you know, oftentimes over the last decades, we've been used to sugar coating or getting a spoonful of sugar to take the medicine. We're here. You're just going to get the medicine. Why? Because you're better than that. You're more important in that you are actually the adults in the room remember that. Why do you think the media came down there? Yes, it's obviously to do division. This is why we had some of the folks on that had been interviewed by the mainstream media. Of course, they're trying to stir it up, there's no doubt about that. But they also understand intuitively the power of the grassroots movement because they're seeing it on their side. That thing today that no kings, you're going to have a million of them out there, or they're going to say they have a million out there. Who knows how many they got out there. But the mandami, the clear and present danger, that's inside the wire. That's inside the wire that we're not dealing with. They understand the power of grassroots. So, no, we're not going to sugarcoat it here. We're not going to give you. We're not going to give you. We're not going to pat you on the head and tell you it's all going to be better because it ain't going to be better until you engage fully informed, fully informed. And that's why I keep telling people coming to this polling, it's all great. I said, yeah, but every time I ask a follow on question, Breitbart did it best. When the Breitbart guys think got JPL and they did the thing and you know, it was like 79% or 80%, you know, approval and support. And then they said, well what happens when the first casualty start and then it drops and what happens, you know, the next week and casualty stop starts? So you have to think this thing totally through. That's what I'm saying. Hey, we're going to do this. Going to spend this $200 billion in, you know, combat troops and already got airmen and navy in harm's way. Then let's go to total war and let's, let's end this thing. But start with, let's start with the financial, let's rip them down financially and anybody that's in business with them making money, make sure that that money, that blood money gets sucked out of them and goes to pay for this. And yes, let's get all the royal families over there. I want to see all those princes. I don't want to see him in London cavorting in London. I want to see him in New York City. Don't want to see him in palm. I don't want to see him running around this country. Don't want to see him. I want to see him in uniform getting ready to take Carg Island. I want to see him in uniform getting ready to figure out how to keep the strait or Hormuz open. Because last time I look, the oil's getting monetized, is their oil. And I also say we're going to take part of the Persians or the Iraqis or I'm all for that. Take it, brother. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's get a carried interest. Let's get 20%, let's take 20% of the era of Saudi Aramco, let's get 20% of UAE. Let's take 20% of that gas field and Qatar. Here's the deal. We're going to keep it open. Let's be partners. We're going to get a carried interest. How about that? See how quickly they want to get to a peace table. See how quickly they said, well hang on for a second, hang on for a second. Maybe, maybe we can figure this out some other way yet. When we got our young men and women, they're all, yeah, go nbs, New York Times. Get them. Let's go get them. Let's go get them. Get up. If we're going to go to total war, let's do it. But that means total. The emphasis is total. Let's do it. And Marco better get up there because now I'm totally confused. You told me the objectives could be reached in three or four weeks with a bombing campaign, brother. I'm all for that if that's the objective. So this is laid out. Bang, bang, bang. Here's what it did. We defanged them, tossed the keys. Guys, it's your problem. I kind of dig that, but I'd like to have that laid out just so people understand it and then we can understand, okay, here's what we're going to do. Marco said national security said don't need combat troops inserted. His. His speaking on the tarmac. Okay, well, I want to take something that's upsetting a lot of people no end is the out of control cheerleading of certain members, elected members, and one I can't understand from the great state of South Carolina because you don't get better people than the folks in South Carolina. You don't get more patriotic people and you don't get people that have committed more to this country's defense and people that are born there and raised South Carolinians and people that are retired there. I mean, it is a fabulous state with great, great, great people. And I do not understand at all how this guy can run around and do what he does. Let's go and play it.

[Lindsay Graham]

Obliterated. And they're running out of money. So here, that, here's what I tell President Trump. Keep it up for a few more weeks. Take Carg island, where all of the resources they have to produce oil. Control that island. Let this regime down a vine.

[Unidentified Commentator]

Is this going to though take Carg Island? Is it going to involve US troops on the ground? Let me, let me just read you something from the Atlantic does an assessment on that. They say U.S. troops may well take Cargill and we believe their ability to do so, but only to endure ballistic missile strikes, drone attacks, petrochemical smoke, all without a reliable means of obtaining logistical support. The result could be a grinding war

[Lindsay Graham]

of attrition using military operation God Bless the fallen.

[Unidentified Commentator]

But it's a difference. On the ground.

[Lindsay Graham]

I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust dod. We got two Marines, Marine Expeditionary Units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. The Marines. My money is always on the Marines, I don't know if you take the island or you blockade the island, but I know this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The day we control that island, there were 20. There were 26,000 casual. I don't know, 26,000 casualties on the regime. I'm not so sure. That's a great. Yes, the Marines can get it done. The best amphibious force in the history of mankind. I'm not so sure those analogies are the best to use given the blood that was shed on those islands. God bless. Was it God bless the fallen. Well, thank you, Lindsay. People, I'm sure the parents of our honored dead feel great that you just kind of use that as a toss away line after you've had five bourbon and branches and you're, you know, another one of your 1,000,000th hits on Fox News. Let's go to Mark Lynch. Mark, you're running against this guy. First off, how the people in South Carolina keep sending Lindsey Graham back to the Senate is beyond comprehension. I think to many people in the United States of America. Sir, your thoughts?

[Mark Lynch]

Well, South Carolina hadn't had a viable candidate. They do with me. You know, our polling's back from brass muslin with a thousand completes head to head. Lindsey's at 45. I'm at 33%. And with an informed ballot, it flips. I'm 34%. Lindsey goes to 23. He drops down. So it's going to happen in 2026. And we're going to give America a wonderful 250th birthday present with the removal of a traitor. You know, I'm wondering with all this talk about the straight of her moves and park island and everything Lindsey's recommending, why are we listening to a traitor who needs to be arrested? Funneling money to Hamas and Al Qaeda through usaid. He's helping to support the enemies of our nation and it's time to arrest him. He's a traitor.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So that's a pretty big. I would say that's a, that's a campaign that's running a little hot. Let's just, I just want to put some, make sure people understand it. You've called him a traitor and you said he should be arrested. That's not the kind of normal, you know, dialogue you have in a, in a typical Republican primary. But you've been at this a while. You're a very serious guy. Just walk the audience through why he's a traitor and why you, as his leading opponent in this race, believe he actually should be arrested for being a traitor. Sir.

[Mark Lynch]

Yes. Well, you know, Years ago he was all for open borders. The nickname he got was Grandesty. He was wanting to grant amnesty to illegal aliens in this country, which we know from the groups I've worked with in national security work. And I know you, you met with John and Matt here at cpac. I just had breakfast with them. They said to tell you hello. And we know these people crossing over the border just aren't people looking for the American dream. They're supreme jihadists reporting to their signed locations. You know, our guys did the work that busted cair, the Council of American Islamic Relations. They're a Hamas terrorist organization and they're fighting in South Carolina to help our legislators pass a hate crime spill which we could get arrested for having this conversation right now if that passes. They're using subtle things like that with red flag laws and Lindsey voted for red flag laws. He's okay with removing citizens guns and you know, we're at war with Islam and funneling money to support them and paying migrants in this budget bill in the fourth quarter of December and 1Q26, sending another $5 billion into pay to help fund illegal migrants coming in here. He's paying for the calls to take down this country. So why is Trump or anybody listening to his advice with a Warhol that's taking our citizens money that we don't have? You know, we're $39 trillion in debt and he's, he's, he's lustful for war. He's got bloodlust. And South Carolinians realize where has Lindsey been the last year he's been all over the world starting World War Three while we have terrorists inside America and South Carolina and like we do in Dallas, I think there's 67 mosques here and there's no such thing as a Muslim church. Steve, those are Ford military satellite bases in operation training, combat training, caching weapons in them. And so every time we see more mosques develop in Islamic centers, they're taking more land and they're claiming that under Sharia law as their sanctuary city, they own it forever. We've got a ban sheree in this country,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mark. We got a balance. But I want people to go to find out more about you and this cause that you're fighting in South Carolina. Remember, if Lindsey Graham does not get over 50% plus one vote on the primary, it's got to go to a runoff with the top guy. Right now Mark lynch is polling as the, as the next guy. So it'd be a runoff between Mark lynch and Lindsey Graham if It's kept below 50%. I want to make sure as much information about you as possible. Mark, where do they go?

[Mark Lynch]

Go to lynch4senate spelled out lynch. L y n c h f o r senate.com. pray for our campaign. Donate. Join. We need volunteers to help get signs out and doorknob. It's happening, but it's going to take us all we got to fight till June 9 to the end. And this guy, this traitor Lindsey Graham will be gone forever. And it'll be, like I say, Steve, a great birthday present to America's 250th birthday. To get the enemies in Congress gone and put America back on the offensive where it belongs, with true American patriots in office.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Mark, Mark. Mark lynch brings up a great point I think people miss. Is that Lindsey Graham? In the first term, everything President Trump is trying to do, build the wall, all of it. Lindsey Graham was working with the senior Democrats in the Senate to block everything. He was the worst he's an open borders amnesty daca. He was Dick Durbin. There's Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham behind the scenes doing this, hosting dinners and having people in the administration. If you want to know why the steam ran out in the first administration, it is Lindsey Graham 100% listen. Of course a number of the war room engine room are very upset by the clip we played. So on the most powerful. Lindsey, come on drunk on Fox all the time. I think one of the most powerful clips is his casual disrespect for the honored dead.

[Lindsay Graham]

Let's play it military operation God Bless the Fallen.

[Unidentified Commentator]

But it's a difference when we talk about troops on the ground.

[Lindsay Graham]

I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust dod.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me have it. Let me have it. That's revolting. It's disgusting. Is this kind of casual as a tee up for his talking points? Remember he spent all this time in Israel with Netanyahu and you know what information intelligence did he actually have from what he said? That's all going to be and I tell people there's going to be plenty of time for that later and it's going to be a full investigation, believe me. Because this thing is, you know how he got into this and where was the exquisite intelligence? The exquisite intelligence, where was it? Let's see it. Also, if that wasn't bad enough, he told us he's been in Saudi Arabia forever and came out the other day drunk, half lit on one of these shows saying he's told the Arabs he's got to stop double dealing. You got to commit and you know, we'll do an in perpetuity defense security. No, we're not. That's the last thing we want to do. America first means putting this country first. Let's take care of the inside the wire. Let's clean that up before we talk to the Saudis about it. In perpetuity. In perpetuity. That was his go. In perpetuity. Defense agreement. That means we're there for, I don't know, perpetuity. Dr. Bradley Thayer. You look at this with a jaundice. I also want to announce, and I haven't had time because it's been so crazy at CPAC, but we had two books on the top 15, Winton Hall's Code Red, which the Warren posse bought, I think two thirds of Wynton Hall. Fabulous book. Great man. First time he's really put a book at. One of the best ghostwriters out there. Wrote his own book and you guys supported it and the feedback I'VE gotten on. Code Red is amazing, but also at. And he's number 13. At number eight, war room bucks and skyhorse Tony Lyons. And the War Room team. Number eight is. Is Kill To Order by Jan Uciellik. Just amazing. And that goes with Jack Basovi's. I think Jack Bosobis unhumans were number 10. So we've had two outright top tens, which is pretty amazing for an imprint that's only what, two years old. Both by people of Polish heritage, I might add. Dr. Bradley Thayer, I think you're a Mick. I think you're a lot of things. You're probably a mutt, but you're like me. You've got a lot of Mick in you. We are announcing and we're not gonna give you the title, but we're making a commitment to the Magnum opus that Dr. Thayer's been working on for a couple of years. An incredible book that everybody's going to want. We're going to get to it, probably publish it later in the summer after the 250th anniversary or maybe early in the fall that we're working with Dr. Thayer right now. We'll give you the title and the Amazon page and all that sometime in the future. But Dr. Thayer couldn't be more excited. And this is going to be another top 10 book. Scott Pressler's book. Our book with Scott Pressler comes out in May, about May 15th I think it is. And then we've got Dr. Thayer's book, got another book coming out around that time, Eyes from Penndrum that everybody's gonna love. And then we got Dr. Thayer's book and a couple others we're gonna announce. So Dr. Thayer, congratulations. More on that later. Give me your beady eyed look at where we stand in this war, sir.

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Well, Steve, thanks very much for your support for it and thank you for writing the forward to the book. Look, when we think about this conflict, we're going to. We need to think about the causes. That's a discussion for another time. Secondly, the conduct which is so important today and then thirdly, the consequences which we're going to talk about a lot obviously in the months and years to come. If we look at the conduct of this war, we're seeing that the US is realizing its war aims as it identified them. That is that the missiles of course, ballistic cruise missiles, drone production are being attrited. The Navy, the Air force obviously were able to operate in over Iran essentially as we wish. Key sticking points are the uranium and that issue of that's going to become a cause of concern. And then the Strait of Hormuzzi and now broadening, of course, to the Red Sea in the Bab El Mandab. And so I think when we're thinking about those issues, it's also important, Steve, to broaden this, too. As Iran has got influence in the strait, it's important to recognize that the US Navy basically dominates the world's ocean. So anything going into the strait or exiting the strait is subject to interdiction. You talked about economic measures that we should employ, as we're talking about 82nd Airborne, as we're talking about Marines being deployed. There are still a lot of economic and financial tools in the toolkit, but there are also a lot of other coercive tools that we can bring into bear here as well. The Gulf of Oman is going to be owned by the US Navy, essentially because of our dominance of world oceans. So that's a tool that we can employ as well. Steve, I'd also like to say that we can see this as an opportunity as well. If the prc, if the People's Republic of China, wants oil coming out of the strait, and we should link that to fentanyl precursor chemicals exiting China, if they want oil, it's up to us to allow China to receive that oil from Iran. We can allow that passage of oil if they stop precursor chemicals exiting the prc. So I think that when we're thinking about this conflict, we need to keep our mind on really what is the center of gravity in international politics today, and that's the Chinese Communist Party. So there are a lot of other tools we can bring to bear in this conflict to influence the CCP as well as Iran, too, with respect to the Arabs, of course.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to talk about the conduct. I want to go back to your conduct. We'll worry about consequences in a later show, maybe tomorrow. By the way, through the good offices of Real America's Voice, we do a seven we're seven days a week while this war is on. And we'll be back Tomorrow morning at 10:00am to 12 noon Eastern Daylight Time. Don't miss it, because usually so much happens on Saturday night. You have to be informed about this, the conduct of the war and the causes of the war we can get to later. The conduct of the war in the conduct of the war, Pete told us the war was contracting. Well, the battle around Tehran is contracting, but that's not the war. The war is expanding the center of gravity. Look, the Iranians have The initiative have the not maybe the conventional military initiative, because they're getting crushed. They're getting defanged and declawed every day. And if you look at the sortied list that they still to go, I think it's 6,000. They're going to get worse. But they've gone. This is an asymmetric war now. And they've got the initiatives and they pulled last night. I think one of their. They've got a couple of aces in the hole and that's the Houthis. The Houthis lit up, launched on Israel. Now, I believe the missile was stopped. But once they get into the conflict, then you've expanded to the entire Arabian Peninsula. And we're fighting at the gates with the gate of tears down at the Red Sea like we were last summer. So in the conduct of the war, how important to me it's central. This is an Arab fight. It's Arab versus Persians. And I realize you're saying, hey, you make it nationalistic, Arab versus Persian, they're going to be fighting 100 years from now. Well, hey, maybe they are fighting 100 years from now, but we ain't fighting 100 years from now. You're one of the ones most concerned about this, about getting the arabs in there. Dr. Thayer.

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Yeah, that's a cause of concern because we want. This is a military effort, right? We're bringing brutality, as Clausewitz identified it. War is brutality applied. And so we're trying to affect the regime's behavior. And allowing the regime to make appeals to Persian nationalism, of course, is not ideal from our perspective. In our effort to wage a limited aims campaign. We're not seeking to go to Tehran. What we're seeking is to achieve the objectives as President Trump has identified them, as Marco Rubio identified them yesterday. So things that draw that out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on. The world's greatest ally, our wingman in this. They're absolutely. Their objective is. I mean, for them it's the last reel of the first Godfather. It's the Greater Israel Project. They're in Lebanon, but they are most specifically going to Tehran. I don't think they would deny that. They would openly say our thing is not just regime change but state collapse. Is that not true? So we do the conduct of the war. First off, we have phony allies. And I've said this forever about NATO. I told you they were never going to be there. You got the NATO and they want you to give a security guarantee. Those young men and women in the Engine rooms and the flight decks of both our combatants and our aircraft carriers and our amphibious assault. The Marines, the 82nd Airborne, the airmen over there, the tankers, all of it. The fighter pilots, all of it. They got another whole group they want as a security guarantee in the Ukraine in perpetuity. In perpetuity. And the Europeans are egging on. They're going to send you. They're not going to send anything. They always look to the United States. And that's why. Because they can't afford it. First of all, they don't have the guts. They can't afford it. This is why they've got retirement at 50. This is why they have full medical. I'm not saying the medical is any good, but they got full medical. They get the whole month of August off. Do you have that? Do you get the full month of August off? You get six weeks in August. Do you have full medical? Do you got a pension that kicks in at 50. Do you have any of that? Do you have free education? You got any of that? Those kids in that engine room, they got that. The kids on those flight decks, they got that. The 82nd Ready Brigade, they got that. Hell no, they don't got it. You know what they got? They got to come back here and compete against tens of millions of foreigners are in this country to take their jobs or if they ain't taking their jobs, suppress their wages. Go up and go down to Frisco, Texas, see how it's working out down there. Go to all the.

Look, the greatest growth, the engine of

growth in this country. One was the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. Go north of there, see what's happening in those, those western towns. Go see it. See it for yourself. Better than that. Go talk to Texans, the most patriotic people in the world whose sons and daughters are over there. Here's the irony of this. The greatest patriots, the people that raise him upright. The guy said, I'm raising a moral 13 year old, but he couldn't name a person. His family served in the military. These people want to serve their country. Not going to be kind of shamed into serving their country. The best we have, the flower of this nation, the best is out there in harm's way because they volunteer for it. They go, yes, if my country needs me, I'm going to be there. And you know what? They deserve a lot better than Lindsey Graham using as a throwaway line after he's had a couple of cocktails and

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[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Yeah, Steve, thanks. So in order to understand the ideological upheaval that Americans face today, Right. Why do we have open borders? Why are we talking about Sharia in Texas? Why do we have to fight that? We need to understand that we've been locked in a long war, 100 years war against communism since it was birthed in the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. That takes an external form. We fought a Cold War with the Soviets and we're fighting one with the. With Communist China today. But we're also fighting domestically. We're fighting because the Communists spread their revolution targeting the US explicitly since 1917. They've made great progress, really, at undermining our institutions, undermining American identity. And as a consequence of that, we have to respond. We're at a point now where the country is going to be lost if Americans don't recognize the value of their identity, of the American identity, the American spirit, our political ideology and the value of Western civilization. The stronger American identity is, the weaker communism is. Right. And the reverse, the stronger Communism is, the weaker American identity is. So we need to turn that around and win this Hundred years War finally and finally defeat communism in a domestic and international.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And Dr. Thayer brings the receipts of the Red Green alliance, the Marxist jihadist alliance. That's inside the gates here. That's the number one priority. If we don't win this, it doesn't matter if you take Carg Island. Dr. Thayer, your social media. Where do people go?

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Thanks to Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thayer Getter in truth. Thanks again, Steve.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, thank you very much. I just want to make sure people understand something. When I say total war, I'm not talking about us militarily wrapping up and sending troops over and 10,000 troops. Make sure. It's quite simple. We go to total war. We use everything, every economic aspect we got. And all of our allies, they got to come in here. They don't come in here. Then you got to rethink your war aims. Very specific, Very specific. If Marco Rubio, if there's a military operation, bang, bang, bang, there's four which are done in four weeks. And Marco Rubio is telling me that and we don't need combat troops. Then fine, do the four. Get the hell out of there. Toss those straight ahead, Hormuz to them. But the Arabs and the Europeans got to step up now. Israelis got to do less in our war. What they're doing. And they do on their own. They go do on their own. But in this war that we're engaged in, let's get the definition of it. Let's get what the victory is and take the win. But to go total, every economic aspect of this we have to do. And part of that's here in the United States of America. And our allies got to step up. And if the Arabs aren't prepared to step up, then to me you've checked that box, okay? They're not prepared to defend the Persian Gulf, they're not prepared to defend the Strait of Hormuz, they're not prepared to really take on the Persians. Then they've answered a lot of questions and you can start coming home to fight the fight. You gotta fight here. Same with the Europeans. I don't see the World Navy down there. I don't see the French Navy down there. They're not keeping the Red Sea open, the Suez Canal open. I don't know why we're doing it. I don't know why we're doing it. We don't have a carried interest there. In fact, they do everything to keep our product out of there. So when you say that, I'm saying let's go big. Let's go big and understand it and just keep on the bombing campaign. Four weeks. That's Mark. Marco Ruba is national Security Advisor of these United States of America. Set it out there in the tarmac, laid it all out right there. Be done in four weeks. No combat troops. I got you brother. Give me the list again just to make sure we check them all off. Boom. Done. Trevor, I've taken more of your time. You got about 90 seconds. Tell me about sacred human health. I got to get to my Mike Lindell.

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