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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Cortez
And where do people like that go
Steve Bannon
to share the big lie?
Cortez
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul,
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Cortez
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
It's Thursday to April, the year of Lord 20:26. It's Holy Thursday and we're going to have do some special things tonight. I am going to have to make sure you've got a broad range of analysis. Dr. Thayer, who vehemently disagrees that we've that President Trump is walked into an escalatory trap. He's going to be on the evening show probably at 6. We're going to work this through with Dr. Thayer and others to kind of counter the arguments of Brandon Weickert and Kurt Mills. We want to make sure you get all the information possible, come to your own conclusions as we need you to do. Joined now from the Daily Signal, Rob Bluey's great news site with Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell. You covered the White House. Walk us through their thinking, the speech, the outcome of the speech, the tee up, because I think the markets did not react, it's pretty obvious in a big way, did not react the way that the president felt they were because I believe he felt, hey, I'm giving people as specific as I can give since we're in war. I can't say, hey, it's definitely going to be two weeks. But he believes, I think, that he teed up an off ramp. Liz, your thoughts?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Yeah, I think going into this speech the American people expected to see that he was one going to announce that we were about to withdraw from the war. That's what Politico reported in advance, was that the president was going to announce the war was winding down. Of course, that did not happen. I think people expected either that or they expected to hear that he was going to send ground troops or escalate the war in a major way. Instead, we got kind of similar to what we've heard before, which is that the President said there would be two to three weeks left that he was going to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity once again and that the families of the 13 soldiers whose lives have been lost want him to finish the job in Iran. I thought this was particularly interesting because I traveled with the president this weekend and was able to get an update from him on Iran while we were on Air Force One flying back to D.C. and he told us that Iran was allowing the passage of 20 oil ships, that he was very optimistic about negotiations, that they were finally talking to the right people, and that he could see a war ending soon. And so I asked him, could you see a deal coming this very week? And he said yes, that he could see that that could happen. But of course, we're nearing the end of this week. We haven't heard a deal yet. And I think I was somewhat expecting that maybe that deal would be announced last night that he previewed Sunday night. But instead we are sticking with that original four to six weeks sounds like maybe even a little bit longer timeline for the operation.
Steve Bannon
When they, when they talk about a deal, is it even it looks like in the Israelis may have taken out the one person that's somehow in contact, or I guess the Pakistanis with, with the vice president's office. But to date in your reporting, are we actually even in communications directly with any of the what's left of the regime or the different aspects of the regime? Because my understanding there's a couple of three power centers vying to try to control this thing as they've dispersed. Do you have any sense that the United States is in any direct communications with someone of authority that could actually not just make a deal, but actually enforce a deal with the United States?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
The president has repeatedly said he's told the press many times that regime change has occurred, that they've knocked out the original regime, the one after that, maybe even the one after that, and that they're finally negotiating with the right people? He has not specifically clarified who those right people are. He has said a lot about how the ayatollah's son, they say he's in charge, but no one knows if he's alive. He likely is dead or incapacitated. And so it sounds like whoever they're negotiating with, they feel like they're able to move forward with. But the president said on the plane to us that you just never know with Iran, things could change rapidly. Even if things are looking good, maybe they don't stay that way.
Steve Bannon
Brandon Weickert brings up the point that as much as the president talks about a two or Three week off ramp. As much as he continues to say, hey look, our military objectives are bang, bang, bang and we're very close. We've completed most of them. There's a few others we haven't completed that. We continue to pour resources in, military hardware, more operational capabilities. We continue to pour it into the region. Your thoughts on that? Is the President just doing that so he's got a hammer, particularly this thing that he said at the end that if the Iranians don't come to some sort of agreement, we're definitely going to escalate and take out their power grid and maybe even their oil and gas production capability.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Well, I think we've heard from administration, many different officials have said that we are well ahead of schedule. They've been saying that really since the early days. And then we're also hearing this two to three week suggestion which would have us be there even longer than originally anticipated. So I think people are wondering are we really ahead of schedule considering that kind of inconsistency there? But I think what's going on here is the President wants to keep all his options on the table. He doesn't want to back himself into a corner and anything that he shares with the American people, with the media is something that the enemy in Iran will hear as well. And so I think that it's possible that there will be this kind of escalation. I mean, we've seen reports about the 82nd Division being sent over there, which would of course be a major escalation. But I think no matter what happens, no matter what these reports say, I take it with a grain of salt because we know the President is not going to want to show all of his cards to the enemy and put himself into a situation he can't get out of.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, he's still about optionality. Talk to us about what do you anticipate? You got the Easter holidays? I think the President's going back to Mar a Lago. What do you anticipate we could look forward to over these next four or five days?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
I think when the President goes down to Mar a Lago, we can expect that he is going to be spending his weekend continuing these negotiations. That's what he told us. The first thing he told us on the plane after his last weekend in Palm beach was that he had had spent the weekend having very productive negotiations with Iran and that a lot of progress had been made. And so I think we can all hope that progress will be made again. I know he'll be working on this from Palm beach during the Easter weekend.
Steve Bannon
As a reporter that covers the White House. Last question. Because there's a difference in opinion, I thought it was pretty clear about staying with the program. He's got to degrade and destroy much of the Iranian military. But both Kurt Mills and Brandon Weickert, who, you know, people understand, they come from one side of this. They thought that he opened up and implied that it could be open for ground troops. In listening to that speech and covering the White House, do you take anything away from last night that actually said that we could in the two or three week period or beyond, insert ground troops there?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Well, as someone who closely follows the President, I noticed that the majority of the things that he said in his speech last night are things that we've heard before, talking about bringing Iran back to the Stone Age, talking about that two to three week timeline, how important it is to destroy their nuclear capacity, reopen the Strait of Hormuz, all that. And so I really didn't hear anything super different coming out of that speech last night. I mean, the president has never, never ruled out ground troops. He's never ruled out any options. He's always said he wants to keep everything on the table. So are ground troops possible? Certainly. He's never said that it's not going to happen. It could very well happen. But I didn't see him particularly opening the door for that in a new way in his speech last night.
Steve Bannon
He's pretty tough on, he's pretty tough on NATO over the last couple of days on true social and comments he made. In fact, I think even as we speak, Starmer is collecting 24 nations to at least begin a starting conversation about what they would do to replace America if we weren't, if our navy didn't have the and military didn't have the responsibility keeping the open the Strait or Hormuz or at least maybe getting more aggressive with that against the Iranians. Did that strike you as odd last night? He was quite, I thought, gentle on NATO and the other allies. They haven't pitched in here. He just told me, he says, hey, you got to chair. For those of you that take the oil out and drive your economy, you've got to cherish this, you know, almost like you got to hug it. Did you think he was pretty light on NATO?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Absolutely. I think reports leading up to the speech, everyone expected that he was going to, once again, as you said, he's done many times, go hard on NATO and talk about how they have not supported the United States, about how Starmer isn't helping Macron isn't helping really. Very little support from our European allies for this operation in Iran. But surprisingly, he did not say much about NATO at all. But I did see that he had a follow up conversation with a reporter clarifying why he didn't talk about NATO. And he said that the United States doesn't need NATO, we'll be fine without it. But that of course he would like to see a lot more involvement. And we've of course heard him say many times that the United States has been there for NATO, but NATO has not been there for the United States for many years and it's time for that to end.
Steve Bannon
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell, where do we get your reporting? The audience loves following you, love your hits here on the show. Where do they go?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
You can read my work@dailysignal.org and follow me on X at the Eliz. Mitchell,
Steve Bannon
thank you, ma', am. Great reporting. Appreciate you coming on.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Thank you so much. Happy Easter.
Steve Bannon
Cortez, we've got you on here for a new documentary. I've got to ask you, you were one of the leading voices of we can't porn you that the vital national security interests of the United States has nothing to do with the Russian speaking border in Ukraine, but it has everything to do with the border, the southern border of the United States of America. Your assessment right now of this geostrategic situation we're in in Iran, how it plays into Ukraine, and particularly Bloomberg's out with a huge story that I promised to get you about the 2027 budget is coming forward. It looks like this budget has a large deficit in it. Part of that's because of increase in military spending. Right. Your thoughts on that and the economy, sir, before you turn to your documentary?
Cortez
Yeah. The fiscal aspect of all this is very key, Steve, because you know, look, we are fundamentally anti interventionism. We believe in an America first philosophy of realism and restraint. But even if you are pro intervention, even if you think this war is justified, if you're in that Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, John Bolton, World and you want ground troops and you want regime change, well, we also have to be realist about our financial ability to pay for it because we are doing this with borrowed money. We are $39 trillion in debt. Bond yields have shot higher since the war began. In other words, the bond market is saying we are demanding more to loan you the United States money because you are now getting so militarily adventurous and it is so insanely costly to do so. $200 billion and counting the request right now on the war, that's real money. Okay? That's the budget of major states for an entire year in the United States. So this is, it's about New York State, to be specific. So this is a serious financial issue. And what I think the onus is on the people who are pro prolonged war, who are pro intervention, whether it' the Black Sea or the Persian Gulf. Why should we be so intricately involved across the oceans in places that I would argue are not strategically important to the United States, they're important to other people, maybe important to our allies, but not important to the United States. And that it's worth borrowing the money and that it's worth risking a fiscal nightmare scenario. You know, right now as we speak, 10 year yield is up to 4.3%. It's sustaining well above four now since the war started, it's almost touched four and a half. What I would stipulate, Steve, as a guy who traded bonds for 25 years, if that 10 year yield gets anywhere near 5%, we've got a massive problem on our hands. And a prolonged war will put it there. Because already our biggest expense, even bigger than defense, at least in normal times. Now the war might change this, but in normal times, even bigger than defense is interest on our debt. So the reality is we have to be grown ups here. We can't do everything we want because we don't have the money. So if this is worth doing for a prolonged period of time and if this is worth boots on the ground, not only do we have to make the case, not only do the war folks, pro war folks, have to make the case why it's strategically important, but also is it worth borrowing this much money to pay for? And is it worth taking an already tough economy for regular Americans, working class people before the war, very deeply, deeply unhappy with the economy, is it worth risking making that economy far, far worse for risking for working class Americans?
Steve Bannon
Just before I'm going to hold you through the break, I want to talk about this documentary. But the bond market though has been orderly. We haven't seen chaos, we've seen chaos in the commodities and oil market. Just give me 30 seconds on that for the, for people to understand.
Cortez
No, that is correct. Listen, I mean, bond yields have moved steadily higher, but they have done so in a reasonable and rational way. There are no breakdowns in the bond market. There's plenty of liquidity there. So it is a very orderly transition. But nonetheless, that doesn't mean that it's not perilous for the United States to see debt markets demanding more and more premium, meaning more and more interest from the United States this way. And by the way, sends all the interest rates in your life higher. Whether it's a credit card or a mortgage or a car loan, it doesn't matter what it is. All of that based off this barometer 10 year yield. So yes, it has been orderly, but it doesn't mean it's not painful.
Steve Bannon
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Cortez
Aaron Gorman. In this regard, she joins a long line of Americans who have been killed, ruthlessly killed by illegal aliens in totally preventable crimes. It's a tragic sorority of sorts of women who became victimized at the hands of assailants who never belonged in our country and wouldn't be here if it weren't for radical Democrats. I'm talking about people like Kate Steinle, Lakin Riley, Sandra Duran, and now Sheridan Gorman.
Steve Bannon
There seems to be a disconnect in the country. Cortez, the Democrats. It's almost, it's beyond perverse. I mean, they not only support this, they push it every day. And you can see this that we did for the entire two hours yesterday without interruption. Commercial Interruption or anybody coming in because I thought it was so powerful, did the 14th amendment. And I was shocked at the lawyer from the ACLU and also some of the judges, some of the questions. But talk to me about this new doc, because this is the thing that I think people, people with common sense in love with this country are just going to say, we've had too much of this, enough of this, and we have to get so much more aggressive. The Mass Deportation Coalition formed about a month ago, put out their action plan. It's 100 pages, folks, and we're gonna have people from the coalition on here to break that down for you. But I believe the American people are getting more and more fed up with this, particularly as you see the dangers to our economy, the dangers to our community, and particularly the personal safety. So tell me about the doc.
Cortez
Right, yeah. So Sheridan Gorman, 18 year old freshman, Loyola University in Chicago. She's from New York State, beautiful young American woman with her entire life ahead of her. She's very involved in her campus ministry group there at Loyola. By all indications, just, just a fantastic young person. She and her friends were hanging out on what is seemingly a very safe beach and pier next to Loyola University, a pier out into Lake Michigan, trying to look at the northern lights at nighttime. And Jose Medina, an illegal alien who was arrested at the border and then sent internally into this country by Joe Biden, ends up in Chicago. He commits more crimes, is arrested by the Chicago Police Department and the cops. And I don't blame the cops. The cops, cops in Chicago, unable to cooperate because of the Dem political leadership of that city and state. Unable to cooperate. Hand him over for deportation. He should have been out of this country. Steve, Jose Medina also has tuberculosis. Came in with it. We are paying to treat him. We are also paying for his apartment. He has a lakefront apartment very near that beach. So this cretin that we are paying for, who doesn't belong in our country, gets his hands on a gun and totally unprovoked, kills in an absolute horrific tragedy, kills Sheridan Gorman. This story has been almost completely ignored by legacy media, even in Chicago. Steve, When I went there, I found people in Chicago didn't know the story or they just knew vaguely. Oh, a girl was killed at Loyola. They had no idea that it was an illegal alien killer who had been picked up by the Chicago Police Department. So I think it's crucial to shine a light on this. That's why I got on a plane, I went back to Chicago and said, we need to show the scene of the crime. We need to talk about her life. I interview a longtime Chicago policeman, a fantastic guy, 32 years on the force, John Garrido, who talked about how frustrating it is for law enforcement. And if you look at that sad lineup of young American women, beautiful young American citizens killed in the prime of their life, some of them young mothers, all of them with bright futures ahead of them. This list has to stop. Sheridan Gorman has to be the last one. But she's not going to be if we don't expose what happened to her, if we don't talk about who she was, who Jose Medina is and why he was allowed to perpetrate this heinous crime in the United States and who his collaborators were. And there's a lot of them. It's Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, Mayor Johnson, Governor Pritzker, Governor Newsom. Unfortunately, I can go on and on. And Steve, you're right. Not only are the Dems not backing down, not only are they not trying to find a more reasonable place on these issues, as a matter of fact, they're doubling down on the migrants. Governor Pritzker went so far as to try to blame this tragedy on Donald Trump. Is he now claiming that Trump's not deporting enough people? I mean, is that legitimately what he's going to try to say to us now? So we have to expose this. That's why I did this documentary. It's@cortezinvestigates.com Cortez with an S at the end. If you go to the documentary section. This is the newest one. It's only 11 minutes long. It's free, of course, everywhere, no paywalls. Please watch it and share it, because the regular media is ignoring this. And this can't be something that only right wingers who are really politically engaged know about. We need every American to know about this. And I also want to talk to the parents out there because I think this is critical. Parents or grandparents, when you're sending your kids or your grandkids off to school, consider where you are sending them. Do you want to send them to a so called sanctuary city or a sanctuary state? Is it a good idea to send them to California or Illinois or New York right now, given this environment? Because these kinds of tragedies keep happening. I think that needs to at least be part of your calculus in terms of where you send your children, where you send your money. But this story needs to be amplified, Steve. So that's. And I thank you for doing it, of course. And I need the help I need the help of the posse and patriotic Americans everywhere to share this story so that people know this shouldn't even be that political. Steve, I will tell you this too. Rogers park, that neighborhood is the most radical left wing neighborhood in all of Chicago. You couldn't believe how much grief I got while I was filming from the locals there telling me to get lost, giving me the finger, telling me migrants welcome. Not caring that days before at that very beach, an 18 year old American woman was killed in cold blood. More concerned with their leftist politics. So recognize that's the, that's the political opponent that we're up against here. Not just at the elected level, but even at some of the activist sort of voter level as well.
Steve Bannon
Real quickly, how come he's not being deported right now, even with tuberculosis? Why is DHS not just ship this guy back to wherever he came from?
Cortez
Well, because we'll fully adjudicate it, of course. I mean, in terms of the murder. So he'll be, you know, he'll be tried first, but thankfully he is at least now in custody.
Steve Bannon
No, no, no, no, no, no. But, but, but before, before that, how did he have a lakefront apartment? How. Why would the list to get these guys out?
Cortez
Because the Chicago Police Department is not allowed to cooperate with federal law enforcement on immigration. So even though they knew that he had a detainer, they are not allowed by the political leadership of Chicago and the state of Illinois, they are not allowed to cooperate with ice. So he was not deported. And because it's a no cash bail state, on top of it, Steve, he's released on his own recognizance. I mean literally just released, okay, from prison. Not only not deported, but just sent back out in the community and sent back to his apartment that an ngo, a non governmental organization funded by the taxpayers is paying for. You know, Steve, by the way, lakefront addresses, as you might imagine in Chicago, are very sought after. You know, you know how many folks, how many Americans who live on the west side of Chicago in some crummy apartment would love to live right near the lakefront? They're not, but Jose Medina is. And he decided to kill an American in cold blood after being arrested not just at the border, but then being arrested again in the city of Chicago for shoplifting.
Steve Bannon
Did, did. Is it true that the school paper apologized for calling him an illegal migrant or illegal alien and said he was a instead, so the college paper of a Catholic college apologized for hurting his feelings by saying that. Is that true?
Cortez
That's exactly right. Because they Called him an illegal migrant, which of course is exactly correct. That's what he is. He's an illegal migrant. They apologized and said that they should have called him undocumented. And Loyola University, which was once a great Catholic university, once a great institution, key part of the city of Chicago, over 150 years old, magnificent piece of real estate right on the lake. It has been disgraceful through this whole episode. It's done everything it can to not even talk about this story, to not honor its student, its own student. You would think there would be such a sign, such signals from the university of remorse. How could this happen under our care when you're supposed to be in loco parentis to some degree? You are the parent now of this young lady. You utterly failed to protect her. But they are more concerned with political narrative than they are with protecting their own students. And sadly, Loyola, like most Catholic universities in America, long ago has forsaken its mission to be an institution of true higher learning and an institution that spreads the faith and instead is committed to leftist narrative. And it's really, it's despicable. And that's why I thought it was important. To my knowledge, I haven't seen any media go on the scene and produce content there and tape there and show the pier and show some of the memorials to her and her life deserves to be honored. Sheridan, Gorman. It was too brief, of course, but it deserves to be honored. And the reason we need to expose this heinous crime is to prevent it from happening again. There should not be another family like the Gormans who has to suffer this horror of having to bury a child. The worst thing imaginable for any parent anywhere. And this was 100% preventable. This did not have to happen. And it keeps happening. That's why I wanted to put it in context, in historical context. Unfortunately, this isn't rare. It's not rare at all. And these illegals are abusing us in all kinds of ways, right? We know economically, for example, they're abusing us so much in the labor market. So the everyday abuses, those are not okay, of course, but these kinds of horrific, violent abuses are the worst of all and need to be highlighted. And so I hope people will know this story. I hope they will reconsider where they send their children or grandchildren away to school. And I hope there will be increasing public pressure on local and state officials who are more interested in a narrative and protecting illegal alien criminals than they are in guarding the safety and well being of Americans, including precious young women.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go to share this. I want everybody to see it's 11 minutes long, no paywall. Where do they go? Steve to take it and share it with their colleagues and friends.
Cortez
Yes. Thank you Steve. Go to CortezInvestigates.com Cortez with an S at the end Investigates.com Click on the documentaries. It's also pinned to the top of my social media. It's the top of my Twitter which is at cortezsteve. Please see this and share it. It's super, super important. Thank you Steve.
Steve Bannon
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Cortez
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
Okay, we're gonna have the Tina Peters team on or try to get them and some of the lawyers on this afternoon. It looks like the appeals court has said this felony stand, but they've remanded it back to the trial court, the district court, for resentencing. We'll find out what all that means and we'll have the team on this afternoon to talk about, obviously, Tina Peters, a top priority. I think the appeals court did reject President Trump's pardon. So Peter Tickton and the team, I'm sure, are going to go back to work on that. For the Chapter 845 War Room, make sure this Medicare system is put together. Patchwork. It's meant to confuse. These are the data driven advisors that can give you a clear and straight shot. Feedback we've gotten from the posse is pretty extraordinary. So go today. Call them at 845-WAR Room. They set up a special line just for you. 845-WAR Room. It's total free consultation. Even if you're in a plan, just go check it out. Even if you're a plan you're happy with, just go check it out. Have them compare and contrast it. Most people are not happy with their plan or they're confused about it. That's why 845-war- room. Go check it out today. Mary Holland, Make America Healthy Again. It's a central part of our coalition. I'm not so sure we're tying the coalition together, although at CPAC we had so many of the MAHA folks, particularly on Sunday, and it really came off well. You saw the MAGA support of it. How are we doing, ma'? Am?
Mary Holland
Well, there were some wins. I want to talk about, Steve, in terms of free speech. So there was a consent decree that was just reached in Missouri v. Biden, and it gives a consent decree for 10 years that the government cannot collude and pressure and coerce the big social media platforms, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, X to force the content on them. That's an important win. It's over 10 years. Some of the plaintiffs went on to be in the government. Jay Bhattacharya Martin Kulldorf but that's an important win. We had a lawsuit at Children's Health Defense, Kennedy v. Biden, that was consolidated with that case, and we settled with the government. And they acknowledged President Trump, as soon as he came into office, acknowledged in an executive order that the Biden administration had been in violation of the First Amendment censoring speech. There was also a really important win that does relate to Maha yesterday from the Supreme Court or two days ago, Salazar versus Childs, and that's Childs versus Salazar. Sorry. And that was an 8:1 decision, and that was about what's called conversion therapy, about talking to young people about their sexuality as a case in Colorado. And even Justice Kagan wrote in a concurrence that you can't suppress one side of the debate and then have the other side be open. A therapist can't say, oh, explore your sexuality and then say, but you can't try to overturn your own attractions to people of same sex or wanting to be different sex or whatever. So that's a triumph that we think, think will lead to really favorable decisions in two cases that we have about suppression of medical speech, one in California, one in Washington space. So that's sort of bright news in the MAHA coalition right now. But I can tell you about some of the issues.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, but hang on. I want to talk about the winds here first on the conversion therapy. Explain to the audience what's the connection between allow, I guess the judges didn't say they approved of conversion therapy, but that if you have one set of therapists or having people get in touch with their inner feelings about their gender and their sexuality as a free speech, you can't cut off another group. Is that correct? Is that basically, they didn't, they didn't say they agreed with it, but they said they said you should be able have the availability of it.
Mary Holland
Right, exactly. And they said that, you know, therapists, doctors, professionals, should be able to exercise free speech, speech. They were suppressing this therapist speech. And that's dangerous to all of us. Steve. Right. If we can't have open communication with our doctors, with our therapists, like what happened in Covid, we're in terrible trouble. And so we expect now, based on this Supreme Court decision, that our case in California, where first the state and then the medical board tried to suppress accurate speech around Covid works, expecting that that case is now going to be decided favorably, probably sent back by the Supreme Court. But it's incredibly dangerous when a state says to a professional, particularly a doctor, you can't have this speech with your patient or your client. So that's what it's about. Even Justice Kagan, who probably doesn't agree with the outcome, said it's a straightforward First Amendment issue. And Justice Sotomayor joined with her. The only dissonant there was Justice Jackson, who in Missouri v. Biden had said what I consider to be bizarre things about how, you know, we can't let the First Amendment hamper the government. No, that's the whole point is that the government doesn't get to take sides because we in this democracy believe in the free marketplace of ideas.
Steve Bannon
So talk to me if those are our wins and they're significant. Talk to me about maybe our non wins.
Mary Holland
Well, let me tell you where there's sort of clearly, you know, there. There has arisen kind of this issue within the Maha Maga coalition, and that is around the use of the pesticide glyphosate. Glyphosate is a poison. It's intended to kill pests, bugs, and it's really harmful to humans. It's especially harmful to children. Steve, we wrote an amicus brief that we filed yesterday with the Supreme Court saying the Environmental Protection Agency is required to have a 10 times threshold for dangerous products for children because children are so much more sensitive when they're developing than adults are. And they really haven't lived by that. And so the administration, the Trump administration has put a thumb on the scales and the Solicitor General is siding with Monsanto, now owned by Bayer, to create federal preemption and to basically disallow lawsuits and state regulations of glyphosate, saying that it is a national security issue and it's complex. Steve, as you can well appreciate, most of the glyphosate is coming from China. We need to develop our own sources. We can't change farming overnight. But the reality is that this is a poison and we're now really abetting the use of it through either this Supreme Court decision potentially or through this executive order. So many people in the Maha movement are not happy. There is going to be a demonstration when there's oral argument on this case in the Supreme Court on April 29th.
Steve Bannon
So April 29th is. I'm sure you guys are going to organize something. Is there anything before I let you go? Is anything. Bobby Kennedy, Is he kind of handcuffed on this? I know he's a good soldier, but this is one that's pretty controversial.
Mary Holland
Yeah, he's been very explicit, Steve. He went on Rogan and said, you know, he's not happy with this executive order, to put it mildly. But he is a good soldier and this is the position of the administration. And he explained it on Rogan. And I think very effectively that it is an issue of transition of American farming. They can't get rid of glyphosate right away and we understand that. But we actually don't think that the environment, we Children's Health Defense don't think that the Environmental Protection Agency has done its job on this. But if I could, Steve, I'd like to address one other issue that's controversial in the MAHA world and that's the issue of electromagnetic radiation. And on this issue, Secretary Kennedy is really moving forward to create a panel. We are going from 3G 4G, 5G 6G in the WI FI antenna towers space. There is a really strong effort in existing legislation and even now by FCC regulation to have total federal preemption. What does that mean? It means that local communities who know their needs best have no control. And an antenna can go in a schoolyard, it can go in a firehouse and it can cause real harm, potentially especially to children because developing children have different bodies, they have different needs and radiation is a serious carcinogen and it has other health effects that are really serious.
Steve Bannon
So how can we get more information? We'll kick off that debate because I'm sure that's going to be quite. Where do people go to get more information on that?
Mary Holland
Thanks. Thanks, Steve. They go to a website that we curate called 704. 704 no more org. 704 is the section of the Telecommunications act from the 1990s that's totally outdated. We need to revamp this in light of the, you know, the electromagnetic world that we now live in. It's not protecting our children.
Steve Bannon
I have so many family members and friends that are part of the MAHA and they've been waiting for this one a long time. So I can now say the same collection of wing nuts that were against vaccines or the same now collection of wing nuts communication that bring it, baby. You guys are the hey, you've come a long way, baby. On the vaccine, right? We'll talk about that another day too. Mary. Let's get where do people go to get all the information what you guys are working on? You guys are amazing.
Mary Holland
Thank you so much, Steve. So we're on X Children's HD. Our website childrenshealthdefense.org you can follow me. Mary Holland, NYC
Steve Bannon
thank you, Ma'. Am. Appreciate you.
Mary Holland
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Mike Davis, I know you're super busy and you spent so much time with us yesterday going on. I hated to do this, but I gotta get your opinion since you were one of the very first people to bring this up. The New York Times has an article today and correct me if I'm wrong, I think they're actually saying that ActBlue and what you said, this has been a couple of years ago, I think now about taking money from foreign donors and giving it to Democratic candidates may actually just not only be a fact, but actually ActBlue may have lied in trying to cover up. Is the New York Times actually got. It's hard for them to have a favorable article, but is this actually kind of start to reveal some truths of what you and James o' Keefe and you know, Natalie Winters and others, Mike Benz, have been arguing for a long time is just nothing but an organization that funnels foreign money into an American election.
Mike Davis
Sir, this New York Times story is pretty damning for Act Blue because it shows there's evidence, including memos between ActBlue and its attorneys at Covington and Burling, a very prestigious Democrat, you know, White Shoe law firm in Washington, D.C. one of the best firms in the world. These, there's memos in this reporting where Covington, Covington's attorneys are advising ActBlue that there is potential criminal misconduct with how they are handling these donations into ActBlue. And there's also evidence that the leader of ActBlue provided false testimony to the House investigation of this in 2023. 2023, the House Committee that handles election law. So this is. This is very, very bad for Axe Blue. And this is going to turn into, I imagine it will turn into criminal indictments by the Justice Department by a lot of people, including potentially this former head of Axe Blue.
Steve Bannon
No, it's kind of a bombshell, Mike, I tell you. Can you hang on because I want to get to you in the next block and talk about Covington and Burling. It's Eric Holder's law firm. It's one of the most prestigious and powerful law firms in the nation's capital. It is also a lot of the muscle on back of the Democratic Party to know that they're involved here and warn these guys about it shows you. And even for the New York Times to report on it and the New York Times try to tamp it down as much as possible. But if you read between the lines, this is about as explosive as you can get. And it proves that people that pushed this and tried to expose this for years who were called conspiracy theorists and wing nuts. It turns out, guess what? They're right in the very tough lawyers over at Covington understood that. And we're warning people about this internally. So we're going to take a short commercial break. By the way, Birchgold, a lot of turbulence in the markets. I've got Philip Patrick up over the weekend to talk about that. We're going to talk about more the fiscal situation of the American economy today, particularly where it's going and where it's going. What I mean is locked in on these budgets, what these deficits are. We'll discuss that. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon Enter the Dollar Empire, the eighth free installment specifically dealing with the United States dollar and the pressure on it from all over, not just bricks, but also from this massive spending. Everything about that. Birchcold.com promo code Bannon make sure you go today, no obligation, totally free. Mike Davis, on the other side, Everyone's focus on how the conflict in the Middle east is raising oil prices. But there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being constrained. About one third of global fertilizer trade happens through this region. And with spring planting season on top of us, American farmers are sounding the alarm with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields. When one piece of the supply chain gets hit this hard, you know what comes next? Higher fruit prices, reduced availability, maybe even panic buying. That's why having an emergency food supply at home makes so much sense. And that's where our friends at my Patriot Supply come in right now at preparewithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com we've set up an entire just site for the war room posse. You go to preparewithbannon.com that's all one word. Preparewithbannon.com you get a three month emergency food supply. They'll include a free mega protein Upgrade, an incredible $200 bonus you don't want to miss. It's a simple way to protect your family from whatever comes next. Go to preparewithband.com that is preparewithbannon.com to get your emergency food supply today. That's preparewithbaned.com do it today. Go check it out.
Cortez
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Mike, we got a lot to cover and only a couple minutes to cover it. First off, this thing on ActBlue. This is huge. It looks like you're right. I think you're seeing criminal indictments in the future. Why is the New York Times write this Covington. The Covington leaked this to him because they're the Democratic muscle in this town. What's going on here?
Mike Davis
I think Act Blue made the mistake of firing Covington. And this may be, I'm just guessing, this is just pure speculation on my part, but Covington, Covington is the most connected, most powerful Democrat law firm in Washington D.C. and Act Blue fired Covington and now you're seeing internal memos from Covington in the New York Times. So you know, payback's a bitch.
Steve Bannon
You do not cross. I'm telling you folks, the law firms run this town. You don't cross the law. It's one of the reasons the Justice Department has got such problems hiring people from President Trump's administration. The powers that be in the Republican law firm say you can't work for Trump. So it's sick. But Covington's a powerhouse. We're going to follow this closely. We're going to get o' Keefe up on this. All the folks like Davis and o' Keefe war room that hammer this for years, guess what the memos from Covington tell you? Criminal activity or potential criminal activity? Mike? Tina, I'm totally confused because I'm not a lawyer. The appeals court kicked it back to the the sentencing court for the judge to re sentence Tina Peters. Is this good news or bad news?
Mike Davis
This is outstanding notes the Colorado Court of Appeals while upholding her conviction. And it's a bogus conviction. But at the end of the day they reversed the sentence and remanded it back to Mesa County District Judge Matthew Barrett, who is a horrible human being who put Tina Peters in prison. The 69 year old woman at the time in prison for nine years. Nine years because this judge, Matthew Barrett did not like Tina Peters political views on the election. That is a clear first amendment violation. As the Colorado Court of Appeals just said in its order, this gets sent back to this piece of garbage judge, this fake Republican rhino, garbage human being of a judge who put a 69 year old woman in prison for nine years because he's garbage. And I'm a member of the Colorado Bar so they can file their bar complaints. I can tell them to go F themselves. This garbage judge put Tina Peters in prison for nine years because he didn't like her views on the election. You can't do that in America. We don't live in China. And so they're going to give this garbage judge the opportunity to fix this. If he doesn't fix it, then I imagine that the governor is going to face Tremendous pressure. Governor Jared Polis is going to face tremendous pressure to commute her sentence. He wanted to do it.
Steve Bannon
But what you're saying is Polis is going to lean on this judge to say, get me off the hook, do what's right. Let's let this woman go. That your thesis, that your theory the case here?
Mike Davis
I think the Court of Appeals just did that for Governor Jared Polish. Governor Jared Polis wanted to commute her sentence and he also wanted to drop the income tax in Colorado down to zero. I mean he's not really a leftist. He's basically just a gay libertarian. But you know, whatever, that's the best we can do in Colorado. But he gets this is set back to this garbage Judge Matthew Barrett. Let's, let's hope he does the right thing here and frees Tina Peters immediately. Then Jarrett Polis doesn't have to do the dirty work of commuting Tina Peters sentence and take the wrath from his lunatic left wing base. And so let's just get her out of prison. This woman has suffered way too much. She is a political prisoner right now as the Colorado Court of Appeals. These Democrat appointees on the Colorado Court of Appeals just made that crystal clear. She is a political prisoner. Tina Peters is in prison right now because she was politically persecuted because of her First Amendment beliefs. Because this garbage judge in Mesa County, Colorado, Matthew Baritz, openly. He's stupid enough to openly punish Tita Peters because of her First Amendment protective views. This guy is an idiot. He should not be on the bench. I hope that Harm Meet Dylan, opens up a federal civil rights criminal investigation on this judge Matthew Barrett because he's a garbage human being.
Steve Bannon
Mike, where do people go for your social media and Article 3 to find out more about this? You've been on this case from the beginning about Tina Peters as many other people.
Mike Davis
Thank you, Steve. Article3project.org Article3project.org donate follow us on social media One of the action items Go to take action and it's to light up the Colorado people, light up Governor Jared Polis and help him find and keep his backbone and keep the pressure on these judges like garbage Judge Matthew Barrett and get Tina Peters out of prison immediately. She is a persecuted political prisoner,
Steve Bannon
a patriot and a saint. Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate you.
Cortez
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Mike Lindell. Give me, give me, give me a minute on Tina Peters. What's happening? And then I want to talk about the deals, sir, as we move into Easter.
Mike Lindell
Yeah, it's a shame she's not out yet. But the biggest political prisoner and by the way, this goes back to Arctic Frost, too. By our own government attacking the people in Colorado, including Tina. And so as we pray for her to get out of prison, I think everybody, let's just pray, pray, pray. And everybody's trying everything they can. But right now, my pillow. You guys, we're in our new factory, and we have been attacked by Arctic Frost more than any other company in history. And we have the special. We haven't done this before. It's our Giza Dream sheets. We just got a whole nother shipment in this morning, everybody. So we're putting them. This is a war room special loan. It's over 50 off that. The queen size, 69.99. King size, 79.99. These are the sheets. These are the famous sheet 10 year warranty, but they sleep better than any sheets. They enhance your sleep. Long staple cotton, the best cotton in the world. And it. And with the satin sheen, you guys, there's nothing like them. If you go to mypillow.com war room, you see there's the Giza dream sheets. And we moved over from the other factory. The stuff we have Left over, that's 80% off. We're closing them out. This is a war room exclusive, you guys. Our clothing line, our top, some of our kitchen towel sets. All these up to 80% off. Use that promo code war room. And then you see that one little square there? We're leaving the My pillow for one more day. The MyPillow standard, my pillows for 1498. And that's a war room exclusive too. So call 800-873-1062. Talk to my employees. They're so happy that we're finally moved. Use that promo code war room.
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Date: April 3, 2026
Main Theme:
The episode centers on the Biden administration’s foreign and domestic policy, with a primary focus on the ongoing Iran war, its economic implications, immigration, and high-profile domestic legal/political stories. Bannon hosts guests offering insider analysis on the administration’s messaging, military options in Iran, fiscal stress from interventionism, the aftermath of a tragic illegal alien-related murder, threats to free speech, school battles in Texas, and political scandals regarding ActBlue.
Guest: Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell (Daily Signal White House Correspondent)
Time: [00:51]–[10:29]
Expectations vs. Reality:
Ambiguity Over Negotiations:
Escalation, Optionality, and Military Movements:
Ground Troops Question:
Allies and NATO:
Notable Quotes:
Guest: Steve Cortez
Time: [10:30]–[14:49]
America First Fiscal Realism:
Bond Market as Warning Signal:
Notable Quote:
“Not only do the pro-war folks have to make the case why it’s strategically important, but also is it worth borrowing this much money to pay for?” – Steve Cortez [13:41]
Guest: Steve Cortez (on his documentary)
Time: [16:24]–[26:57]
Murder of Sheridan Gorman:
Media and Institutional Silence:
Policy Implications and Parental Warning:
Notable Quotes:
Guest: Mary Holland
Time: [31:29]–[40:01]
Legal Wins:
Contentious Issues Within Coalition:
Notable Quotes:
Guest: Mike Davis
Time: [40:04]–[47:00]
NYT Bombshell:
Political/Legal Fallout:
Notable Quote:
“Payback’s a bitch.” – Mike Davis, about Covington’s apparent leak after firing ([45:47])
Guest: Mike Davis
Time: [47:00]–[51:04]
Notable Quotes:
| Segment | Guest(s) | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-----------------------------|---------------| | Biden’s Iran Speech & Negotiations | E.T. Mitchell | 00:51–10:29 | | Fiscal/Economic Impact of War | Steve Cortez | 10:30–14:49 | | Immigration and Gorman Documentary | Steve Cortez | 16:24–26:57 | | MAHA: Free Speech, Glyphosate, EMF Debate | Mary Holland | 31:29–40:01 | | ActBlue Scandal & Legal Fallout | Mike Davis | 40:04–47:00 | | Tina Peters Political Prisoner Controversy | Mike Davis | 47:00–51:04 |
Episode 5270 is marked by the War Room’s typical themes: a skeptical, combative take on the administration, intense focus on America First priorities vs. global intervention, warnings about the economic costs of war, fierce criticism of progressive governance at all levels, and updates on the cultural/legal battles perceived as critical to the country’s future.
Memorable quotes, forthright analysis, and a cast of returning guests ensure this episode is a comprehensive snapshot of the movement’s perspective on the crises of April 2026.