Episode 5282: Who Comes Out Victorious In This Ceasefire; Anthropic And Rise Of Skynet

Summary

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Bannon's War Room – Episode 5282: Who Comes Out Victorious In This Ceasefire; Anthropic And Rise Of Skynet

Date: April 8, 2026
Main Theme:
A breakdown of the Trump administration’s abrupt two-week Iran ceasefire amid intense military escalation, the uncertain future of U.S.-Iran relations, implications for the global order and markets, and the new existential questions raised by AI breakthroughs such as Anthropic—framed as a real-life “Skynet” scenario.

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Episode Overview

In this high-stakes episode, Steve Bannon and an array of insiders—military experts, journalists, and market analysts—dissect the dramatic last 24 hours in U.S.-Iran relations. After decisive U.S. military action, President Trump secures a short-term ceasefire with Iran, lauded by administration loyalists as a historic victory. Yet, deep skepticism remains: Are Trump’s objectives truly met? Who is really in charge in Iran? And what are the real terms of peace?
The conversation shifts to the global financial repercussions and strategic implications, especially concerning China and de-dollarization, with a pivot to a parallel existential threat: the rise of uncontrollable AI, as exposed by recent Anthropic revelations.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Iran Ceasefire: Victory or Illusion?

[00:10–07:59]

• Trump Administration Claims:
  • Pete Hegseth frames Trump’s actions as decisive, recounting military milestones from the Soleimani strike, Operation Midnight Hammer, to the latest “Operation Epic Fury,” which “decimated Iran’s military and rendered it combat ineffective for years.”
  • "President Trump had the power to cripple Iran's entire economy in minutes. But he chose mercy. He spared those targets. Because Iran accepted the ceasefire under overwhelming pressure." – Pete Hegseth ([04:34])
• Skepticism From Panelists:
  • Bannon and Jack Posobiec question the stability and authenticity of the Iranian “new regime” and warn that Iran’s compliance is far from certain.
  • “I do think we’ve lost the plot... the Iranian people are protesting for their civilization, for Iranian nationalism, against the Islamic Republic... and we’ve lost that.” – Steve Bannon ([05:17])
  • Uncertainty remains over the Supreme Leader’s control, Iran’s compliance with nuclear restrictions, and enforcement of the agreement.

2. U.S. Military Posture and Regional Fallout

[07:59–13:23]

• Continuing Vigilance:
  • Pete Hegseth confirms sustained U.S. military presence in the Strait of Hormuz to enforce the ceasefire and ensure shipping access.
  • U.S. readiness to “restart at a moment’s notice” is emphasized, with the Pentagon retaining flexible response options for any Iranian violations.
• Concerns Over Compliance:
  • Bannon and others outline several unresolved demands: dismantling of Iran’s nuclear facilities, ending uranium enrichment, international inspections, cessation of missile programs.
  • "The President’s demands... we have not reached any of those objectives." – Steve Bannon ([09:43])

3. Economic Impact: Oil, Markets, and Reparations

[16:31–23:30]

• Oil and Markets React:
  • Eric Bolling reports a dramatic plunge in oil prices (down $20/barrel) and a surge in U.S. stock markets following news of the ceasefire.
  • Gasoline prices, while predicted to continue rising in the short term, are expected to eventually drop.
• Reparations and Control of Hormuz:
  • Debate emerges on Iranian demands to collect tolls ($2M per vessel) on the Strait of Hormuz, potentially totaling $110B/year—highlighting the contentious financial stakes.
  • Delicate negotiations are ongoing, with U.S. interests seeking a share or outright rejection of such reparations.

4. Geopolitical Stakes: The “American Suez” and the China Angle

[25:15–38:36]

• Strait of Hormuz = Suez Canal Moment?
  • Jack Posobiec draws analogies between this episode and the loss of British power during the Suez Crisis, but underscores that the real global contest is not with Iran, but with China.
  • "This has always been about China... de-dollarization with oil sales backed in Chinese currency... proof of concept." – Jack Posobiec ([25:15])
• BRICS, Yuanization & Pax Americana:
  • China and BRICS are exploiting the crisis to showcase de-dollarization (tolls paid in yuan) and challenge U.S. financial dominance.
  • Captain Fennell and others urge the White House to redirect naval power toward the South China Sea and Taiwan as a strategic deterrent against Chinese ambitions.

5. The Nuclear Question: Is the Threat Really Removed?

[50:30–52:00]

• Lingering Doubts:
  • Despite administration claims, panelists like Captain Fennell note that Iran's nuclear “dust” and enrichment capability remain unresolved.
  • The risk of quick military re-escalation remains real if terms are not enforced.

6. AI: The Rise of “Skynet” – Existential Threat to Humanity

[38:36–43:09]

• AI Breakthroughs—A New Front:
  • Bannon abruptly pivots, declaring that advances in artificial intelligence (specifically by Anthropic) may outstrip even military conflict in significance.
  • Warnings are issued about AI’s uncontrollability, potential linkage to military assets, and ultimate threat to humanity: “It’s like the Terminator movie. Skynet is self aware.” – Steve Bannon ([43:09]), echoing Posobiec’s grave concerns about “nuclear dust” and AI-driven superweapons.
  • "AI is the new superweapon. AI is going to be the nukes of the future... You hook one of these up [to a carrier], this thing goes self-aware... that's the danger." – Jack Posobiec ([42:03])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On U.S Victory and Mercy:
  • “President Trump had the power to cripple Iran’s entire economy in minutes. But he chose mercy.” – Pete Hegseth ([04:34])
• On Uncertainty and Skepticism:
  • “We don’t know the strength of [Iran’s] system... Is the Supreme Leader even in control? Is he alive?” – Steve Bannon ([05:54])
  • “I trust President Trump... his instincts are very, very good. But I would say this enemy is still the enemy. The communist Chinese will still help them. The Russians will still help them to rebuild. And so this thing’s not over.” – Pete Hegseth ([12:44–13:23])
• On Geopolitics and De-Dollarization:
  • “This has always been about China... the BRICs and the multipolarity... trial run on the world stage with everyone looking—proof of concept of de-dollarization.” – Jack Posobiec ([25:15–26:48])
• On AI and Existential Threats:
  • “AI is the new superweapon. AI is going to be the nukes of the future... You hook this up to America’s nuclear missile stockpile—what happens?” – Jack Posobiec ([42:03])
  • “It’s like the Terminator movie. Skynet is self aware.” – Steve Bannon ([43:09])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment / Speaker | Key Topic | |--------------|----------------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:10–07:59 | Pete Hegseth, Bannon | Details on ceasefire, U.S. military operations, “new regime” in Iran | | 08:28–13:23 | Hegseth, Bannon | U.S. objectives unmet, military presence, skepticism | | 16:31–23:30 | Bolling, Bannon | Oil/markets response, debate over Hormuz tolls, reparations | | 25:15–28:11 | Posobiec, Bannon | The “American Suez,” China’s strategic moves, de-dollarization | | 29:56–33:53 | Hegseth, Reagan Reese| Civilian targeting, White House messaging, what was agreed on | | 38:36–43:09 | Bannon, Posobiec | Discussion of AI and the threat posed by uncontrollable systems (Anthropic) | | 46:11–52:00 | Captain Fennell | Not an “American Suez,” China’s involvement, military strategy, ongoing risks |

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Flow, Tone, and Takeaways

The episode is urgent and combative, full of nationalist bravado and suspicion. Administration allies aggressively cast Trump’s actions as historic and decisive, framing the ceasefire as a vanquishing of Iran’s regime. Yet, Bannon and expert guests never drop their skepticism—questioning everything from the control in Tehran, to China’s real role, to the wisdom of the market’s cheer.
Layered atop is growing anxiety about technological acceleration: the rise of self-aware AI, potential Pentagon “superweapons,” and the risk that humanity is creating its own “Skynet.” The panel pleads for vigilance—not just in geopolitics, but in a broader existential sense.

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In Summary:

• Ceasefire with Iran is celebrated as a U.S. military triumph but deeply contested and fraught with uncertainty.
• True compliance by Iran and the regional balance of power remain at risk.
• China and BRICS are exploiting the chaos to advance de-dollarization.
• Financial markets are roiled, with oil and stocks swinging precipitously.
• The conversation ends on a note of profound warning: superintelligent AI, not just state conflict, is now the ultimate battleground.

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Transcript

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Good evening everyone, and welcome to the Weeknight.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm Simone Sanders Townsend with Eugene Daniels and Jackie Alemanni in for Alicia and Michael.

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Let's get right to tonight's breaking news.

[Steve Bannon]

Donald Trump just caved, backing down from

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

his fake deadline, averting for now what

[Steve Bannon]

the President described this morning as an attack on Iran that would lead to the death of a, quote, whole civilization.

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Let's continue our breaking coverage.

[Pete Hegseth]

Donald Trump has announced that the United States has reached a two week cease

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

fire agreement with Iran contingent very important

[Pete Hegseth]

point here on Iran reopening the Strait of Hormuz.

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Earlier tonight, Ms. Now reported that more than 50 House Democrats are now calling

[Pete Hegseth]

for Trump's removal either through impeachment or the 25th Amendment. In the wake of Trump's threats against Iran. Iran has been a threat to the United States and the free world for 47 years. Chance of death to America, targeting our people, killing Americans, lying and blackmailing their way toward a nuclear weapon. So they thought no longer, not on our watch. Other presidents marked time and kicked the can down the road. President Trump made history. From the strike that took out Qasem Soleimani to tearing up the disastrous Obama Iran deal, to the precision campaign that obliterated Iran's nuclear sites in Operation Midnight Hammer, to, to the decisive military victory we just achieved in Operation Epic Fury. No other president has shown the courage and resolve of this commander in chief. President Trump forged this moment. Iran begged for this ceasefire and we all know it as the president truth this morning, a big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough. Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. A capital V military victory by any measure. Epic Fury decimated Iran's military and rendered it combat ineffective for years to come. You see, had Iran refused our terms, the next targets would have been their power plants, their bridges and oil and energy infrastructure. Targets they could not defend and could not realistically rebuild. It would have taken them decades. And we were locked and loaded. They couldn't defend against it. President Trump had the power to cripple Iran's entire economy in minutes. But he choose, he chose mercy. He spared those targets. Because Iran accepted the ceasefire under overwhelming pressure. This new regime was out of options and out of time. So they cut a deal. They know this agreement means that they will never, ever possess a nuclear weapon. Under the terms, any nuclear material they should have will be removed. Any material, excuse me, they should not have, will be removed. Right now, their dust is deeply buried and watched 247 overhead. The President has been clear from the beginning, there will be no Iranian nuclear weapons. Period. Full stop. Other presidents said it. President Trump did it. For decades, Iran killed Americans with roadside bombs in Iraq, using cowardly proxies to do their dirty work. While they hid safely in Tehran, they struck our embassies with car bombs and attacked from the shadows, never daring to face us toe to toe. They thought they could bleed America with impunity. Well, they just learned the hard way what happens when you try to fight us directly. And even when they got lucky one time in 40 days and down two of our pilots, they couldn't hold them. In a daring 14 hour rescue operation, seven hours in daylight and seven hours of night, both pilots were recovered safely not once, but twice. A daylight thunder run right up the middle of their country, boots on the ground. A midnight raid right up the middle of the their country, boots on the ground, zero American casualties. The Iranians humiliated and demoralized. We control their fate, not the other way around. That's why they came to the table. The suffering their regime has inflicted around the world. Now we have a chance at real peace and a real deal. The War Department, for now, for now, has done its part. We stand ready in the background to ensure Iran upholds every reasonable term. And as everyone knows, nobody makes a better deal than President Trump. Anderson, I tend to withhold judgment until we.

[Steve Bannon]

We know a little more and see,

[Jack Posobiec]

we don't really know what's happening in Iran.

[Steve Bannon]

We don't know the strength of the system. I do think we've lost the plot, though, Anderson. I mean, you and I were talking

[Pete Hegseth]

back in January about the protests by

[Steve Bannon]

the Iranian people, and I feel like

[Jack Posobiec]

we've lost that critical.

[Steve Bannon]

You think destroying their civilization is.

[Pete Hegseth]

I know, exactly.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, what we saw play out in the last 24 hours was so

[Pete Hegseth]

counterproductive to everything, and particularly the Iranian people are protesting for their civilization, for Iranian nationalism, against the Islamic Republic, the Islamic State of. The Islamic Republic of Iran.

[Steve Bannon]

And we've just, we've lost that. So, look, we have to see as the dust settles here, what's happening in

[Pete Hegseth]

the Strait of Hormuz.

[Steve Bannon]

How intact is this regime? Is the Supreme Leader even in control? Is he alive?

[Pete Hegseth]

We actually don't know these answers, so

[Steve Bannon]

we'll have to see. But obviously there are a lot of

[Pete Hegseth]

problematic elements here right now, and I think it's going to require some good

[Steve Bannon]

diplomacy to try to pull them together.

[Pete Hegseth]

President Trump posted on Truth Social this morning that there has been a very productive regime change in Iran and that there will be no enrichment of uranium and the US Will work with Iran to dig up and remove the deeply buried nuclear dust. So I just have two questions here. So both you, Mr. Secretary, and the President, have referred to a new regime in Iran. So is this not the regime that was at war with us for 47 years? And how do we, what do we think when we're saying that this is a new regime? What are we thinking and what are we saying there? And then My second question is, with any future deal with Iran, is their handing over of all of their enriched uranium and they're promising not to enrich any future uranium, be non negotiable for the U.S. well, it's always been non negotiable that they won't have nuclear capabilities. And so right now, it's buried and we're watching it. We know exactly what they have and they know that. And they will either give it to us, which the President has laid out, they'll give it to us voluntarily. We'll get it, we'll take it. We'll take it out. Or if we have to do something else ourselves, like we did in Midnight Hammer, or something like that, we reserve that opportunity. But what's clear, what the Iranian, the new Iranian regime knows is they'll never have a nuclear weapon or the capability to get a path to one. As far as the new regime, you heard the list that I read. It's a new group of people who've seen the full capability of the United States military and has a new calculus about what it means to negotiate with us. Hence why they came to the table wanting a ceasefire and the shooting to stop. So this new regime, which the regime has been changed, has a different interaction with the U.S. one America News.

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

First of all, thank you to our troops. What role is our military playing in escorting vessels through the Strait of Hormuz at this point? And the President said on Truth Social

[Jack Posobiec]

that the US Will be hanging around

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

to make sure everything goes well. Obviously, Mr. Secretary, you just mentioned, you know, we know, the scars from hanging around in Iraq for decades, but what does that entail in terms of our military presence at this juncture?

[Pete Hegseth]

Yeah, we'll be hanging around. We're not going anywhere. We're going to make sure Iran complies with this ceasefire and then ultimately comes to the table and makes a deal. So we'll stay put, stay ready, stay vigilant. As the Chairman laid out, our troops are prepared to defend, prepared to go on offense, prepared to restart at a moment's notice with whatever target package would be needed in order to ensure that Iran complies as far as the strait. You saw the initial agreement that was struck, which is Iran's letting ships go through. So they'll be, that, that will be happening. They will be sailing. And ultimately, as, as the President, I mean, we've done an incredible job militarily inside this raid of Hormuz. What? Admiral Cooper, I failed to mention Admiral Cooper's name. He's done a phenomenal job, along with everybody at Afcent and Absent and Arcent and all the components down there laying the groundwork for Iran. Iran doesn't have the same ability to defend it the way they did before. And so as the President has pointed out to the rest of the world, we barely get any of our energy out of the strait, just a tiny fraction. It's time for the rest of the world to step up and ensure that that stays open. After President Trump and the War Department brought Iran to the place where they are voluntarily opening it right now, as was announced last night.

[Steve Bannon]

But I will say that the President's demands. We have not reached any of those objectives. I have full confidence that the President is going to find some way to make this happen. But he said that we want to dismantle all major nuclear facilities. That has not happened. The end of uranium enrichment on the soil, they're still enriching. The transfer of the rich uranium stockpiles out of Iran, that hasn't happened. The acceptance of intrusive international inspections, they're still not willing to do that. And they have not suspended their ballistic missiles program. They're still firing them off to stop the production of the long range missiles. That's just a few of them. On the President's proposal, The question is, is the President using this two weeks to give our soldiers a break, a rest, to see if we can get this ultimately done? We'll see.

[Pete Hegseth]

Good morning, Mr. Secretary. Mr. Chairman.

[Steve Bannon]

David Zia, real America's voice during the ceasefire. What do we do when we see Iran rearming, regrouping, repositioning weapons systems and air defenses? And also have we confirmed a specific model type of air Defense or MANPADS, that took down our F15 and is

[Pete Hegseth]

it still a threat for our patrols?

[Steve Bannon]

We're still working through the specific details around that particular shootdown. And the crews, when they normally return, go through a debriefing process along with the other members of that flight that were out there and they'll go back as they always do, and forensically look at what are the tactical lessons learned. Did we Sense or see something, could we have done something different? We do that as I mentioned in a prior press conference, every single time we take any loss like that so that we become a quick learning organization. On the other part of your question around the movement of Iranian military forces, US CENTCOM will continue to monitor that situation. They will continue to have a series of response options and if need be will come to the secretary and to the president for guidance and be prepared to do the things that they're ordered to do so against valid military targets in accordance with the normal procedures that we have.

[Pete Hegseth]

I would just note it's a good question. The more Iran moves, the more Iran moves forces, the more they emplace forces, the more easily targetable they are for us right now. Remember, we're able to look, we're able to see, we're able to sense, we know they where they. So if they try to preposition, they're just creating riper military targets for us to strike should they make the wrong decision at the table.

[Steve Bannon]

It's.

[Pete Hegseth]

Sorry, it was an indictment framed as a question. So you're forgiven for understanding.

[Steve Bannon]

Go ahead, please frame it against.

[Pete Hegseth]

No, you've had the state of open right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you very much. I believe so. Based on the diplomatic negotiations. I believe so. I believe so. Sorry.

[Pete Hegseth]

I trust President Trump. I know his heart. I know he wants to do the right thing.

[Steve Bannon]

I know he has Lilliputians who are telling him to do something else. I know he has other advisors telling him to do something else.

[Pete Hegseth]

He's the most understanding, competent of the bunch and he's the President of the United States and his instincts are very, very good. But I would say this enemy is still the enemy. They're still surviving. Their military may be destroyed, but the communist Chinese will still help them. The Russians will still help them to rebuild.

[Steve Bannon]

And so this thing's not over.

[Pete Hegseth]

And it's not that I'm a warmonger, it's that they're a warmonger. It's not that I'm an interventionist. They're an interventionist.

[Steve Bannon]

Wednesday the 8th of April in the year of our Lord 2026. Fairly dramatic. President Trump essentially, as I said last week when he gave the national address, I came, I saw, I conquered. I'm going to hang around and conquer a little more, which he did. Major strikes over the last couple of days, not on their infrastructure but on their war making capacity. You heard the the briefing by Pete Hegs as Secretary of War and General Kane. We're going to get into it. The first question we're going to pose to our array of experts that have been with us since the beginning of the war is exactly what 10 points did anyone agree to? Because the Iranians and the European press are putting out something, I think that might be a little difference to folks at the White House. We'll break it all down for you. I think we can say that the military objectives of this campaign have been met according to the Pentagon and according to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the commander in chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. Short commercial break we're back with Poso Faddis. Captain Fennell, we're gonna go the White House. We got Eric Bolling on markets, all of it today. On the first the dollar's convertibility into gold ended in 1971. Gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Well, fast forward to today and the US dollar has lost over 85% of its purchasing power. Gold, on the other hand, is increased in value by over 12,000%. That's why Central banks are buying gold at record levels. That's why major firms like Vanguard and BlackRock hold significant positions in gold. And that's why I encourage you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold Group. But it starts with education. Birch Gold just announced their Learn and Earn Precious Metals event. This free online event rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get a free silver on your next purchase. Get even larger incentives as you go. The more you learn, the more you can earn. But you must act now, as this special event only runs through April 30th. The dollar lost its anchor in 1971. You don't have to lose yours. Text my name, Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 to join Birch Gold's Learn and Earn Precious Metals event by April 30th. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and do it today.

[Pete Hegseth]

Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

I came Forget the political article from last week. I came, I saw, I conquered. I said he's going to hang around and conquer a little more and then they're going to figure something out and we're all going to go home. Mark levin, Bad day for Tel Aviv. Levin we'll have more of that total full meltdown. Lindsey Graham now saying. Lindsey Graham saying, well, you know, this is all good, President Trump's greatest negotiation world, but we're going to have to bring that to the Senate to get approval like the Obama deal did. I don't think Lady Lindsay, I don't think it's going to happen. Okay, President Trump's going to make a deal and move on. Let's get. So we got Fennell, Fatis, Poso, and of course, Eric Bolan. Let's go to the markets first. Some people got shredded yesterday, did they not, Eric? And I think the world's telling us, at least the capital markets, it's time they agree with President Trump. Time to wrap this up and go home. I'm going to get into the part about exactly who, who thought they agreed to what because I think there's a big difference in the bid, in the ask about what the 10 points are. What even 10 points there are what we agreed to and what because the president went on Sky News, gave a 90 second interview or to the journalist and the guy said, well, hold it, these, the 10 points of the Iranians are totally maximalist points. In fact, they still control Hormuz. And he goes, well, those are not the 10 that I'm talking about. So we'll get into more of that. But Eric, right now, capital markets, the oil market, commodities markets, telling us what the oil.

[Eric Bolling]

Steve, last night when we heard that Trump was going to accept the two week pause or cease fire down $9 a barrel, we woke up this morning and texted you it was down $20 a barrel. It's sitting $20 a barrel lower. That translates into lower gas prices. However, folks have to understand this is great news. You're talking about the capital markets. Sometimes when things bounce off a low like this, for whatever reason, we call it a dead cat bounce, which is a temporary bounce and then continuation of, of lower prices in equities. This isn't a dead cap bounce. This is a legit recovery. 1300 points in the Dow, 3% move in the indices. So the issue is gasoline will remain high, it'll go higher. We've talked about this with people hate to hear this. I'm just bringing the truth here, folks. That's it. You'll probably see gasoline continue the upward movements, up a dollar a gallon since we started. You'll probably see another, oh, at least, probably $0.40 higher on the pump price going forward, probably another three weeks, a month before it starts to trickle its way down. Good news is, Steve, it was quick and we've been talking about how this needs to happen quicker so that we can clear out all the BS before the midterm elections. Can I just touch on one of the points in the 10 point whatever they sent over. Trump alluded to this in a couple of press conferences that, and the Iranians said that this was one of their issues, that they were going to collect $2 million per vessel transiting the Strait of Hormuz. I did a little math here, Steve. That's $110 billion a year. And they were going to negotiate each point. So I'm praying, I'm hoping Witkoff and Jared and whoever else was negotiating, hopefully they said, you know, let's do a 50, 50 split on that. You can get your reparations, 50% of that 110 billion. But we're gonna, we're gonna pay for our struggles here in the war struggles and ensure we don't have to deal with this again and take that 50, 50, you know, $55 billion a year is a nice little chunk of change for us to be able to replenish our supplies as well. So I think there's a lot on the table right now. There was a rumor also of a potential Fed move on rates today, and I haven't confirmed it yet, but if Powell doesn't hate America, he'll lower and he will call a quarter point drop in the fed funds rate, which will add some fuel to the recovery of our equity markets, which I think will be great for a midterm situation.

[Steve Bannon]

For people that went long on the civilizational takedown, they're dead men walking this morning. I mean, you always tell me, I see dead people. You see some dead people out there that were on the wrong side of this trade, sir.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, I see dead people in markets, especially energy markets. And this whole time we've been on 40 days now, I was positioned to lose money if oil continued higher and stocks went down. Even though I said that was what was happening, people didn't believe me. That's the truth. I have, I'm having obviously a monster day today because oil is now down, stocks are up. The people who listen to the Mark Levins of the world, they doom and gloom people. The people who want Iran civilization wiped off the Earth versus A negotiations are smoked. They literally got smoked overnight in a matter of. And there was no getting out, Steve. It happened at 6pm Eastern last night. You can't trade your way out of a massive position at 6pm or until the market really opens today. So they're getting crushed. They're probably going to defend their positions right now in the market. It moved a little bit against, you know, America for, for about an hour or so right now. But we'll See, I, I have a hunch towards the end of the day, you're going to see massive, massive selling in oil, massive buying in the equity markets. You know, I will caveat with this. It's, it's. The problem is it's only. It's always one tweet away. You know, it's always one important material tweet away from changing the whole dynamic. But right now, the ball is in Trump's court victory lab.

[Steve Bannon]

It is lower prices, but here's. I think it's. I think it's directionally what we've been saying and allowing all the different commentators come here. President Trump had a certain set of military objectives, as Captain Fennell has told us. You heard again this morning from the Pentagon and from the Joint Chiefs. They believe those military objectives have been completed. Now, there's a very tenuous ceasefire. There's a lot of questions. The reason I keep emphasizing, who are we actually dealing with? Because it's not just who can sign a paper or tweet over something that they agreed to, certain things, who can actually enforce it. I think this whole situation, I believe the combination of Bedouins and Persians down on the straight of Hormuz are going to have something to say about those fees and where they go.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

These are pirates, okay? I don't know if they're going to let anybody horn in on that, including the guys that run the show in Tehran. I say, hey, you're in Tehran, we're here. Right? Dig us out. So there's a lot of moving pieces here, but I think directionally, you see, President Trump has said, hey, we've achieved the military objectives. Pete Hegs has said they're going to hang around and you got to clearly get this thing negotiated. It's just a temporary ceasefire. And there's a huge, you know, the point they made in making in Europe that the Iranians, these are maximalist positions from both sides. Maximalist positions on the Iranians, 10 points, maximalization opposition on ours. You actually use the R word there. Reparations. I think President Trump's, you know, eyes would cross if you heard that word. He has no intention of paying the Iranians anything for that, but to be worked out. Eric, we'll see you back and do a transition with you at four. We'll let you get back into the pit and do some trading today. What's your social media and where they go to get your new show at?

[Eric Bolling]

Eric Balding with the C. Just keep it on, Rav. I'm all over the place. Steve, you're all really all over the place. And always you got to be commended for some of the stuff that we've been talking about for the last 40 days just materialized last night, 6pm Eastern. Congratulations to Ben and the war room for, you know, having well, anyone can report the news. You go to the war room, you find what's going to happen next, which is all the difference in the world.

[Steve Bannon]

See it for 50 on on this, on this morning show. We got bowling, Posobic, Sam Fatis, Captain Fennell, Trito Parsi, Reagan, Reese. We're going to have hopefully David azir and Neil McCabe. We're gonna get you as wide a range as possible of Gaffney. Again, we're get you the neocons and we're gon other people too. So you can make up your own mind which is what needs to happen here. Can't be told what to do. You got to come up, think about yourself, use your agency. Eric, thank you so much. Jack Boic, you're going to give us a bigger strategic picture here because there's a bigger strategic picture. But just tell me of what you've seen so far, particularly the direction you heard today at the Pentagon, what President Trump's been saying. Our military, you're a naval intelligence officer, but also the Iranians are running around Europe saying we won this. They've agreed to these 10 points and these are maximalist positions. Your thoughts, sir?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, I'm not going to believe any 10 points until I hear them from the president, United States, Donald J. Trump. And we've seen 10 points and 5 points, 15 points. And Pakistan came out with theirs and the Chinese Communist Party came out with theirs as well. And so we have to see when the dust settles, perhaps the nuclear dust in this case, when it settles to figure out what's going on. But, but I keep saying, and I've said from the very start that this people are looking at it and they're saying Israel, Iran, the United States. But I would submit to you that everyone is looking at the wrong straight. This has always been about China. This is about China and the BRICs and the multipolarity trying to rise themselves above what they see as the US Dominated UNI polarity. And they're trying to position this, you're already seeing this, Steve. They're trying to position this as an American Suez. And they're talking about the fact that the tolls were taken. As I've talked about just about every time I've been on here, going back to day one, the Fact that the tolls are being taken in Chinese Yuan. This is a trial run on the world stage with everyone looking proof of concept of de dollarization. Yeah, de dollarization with oil sales backed in Chinese currency. Don't think for a second that that is not brics. That's not the Belt and Road Initiative. That's bri. And what is Xi Jinping doing in just a couple of days? Well, the leader of the Taiwan opposition party just landed in China and she is going over to meet with Xi Jinping.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it. It's the party founded by Shanghai Shek. It's the. It is kmt.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, they put Chairman Mao together at gunpoint. When to say you got to fight the Japanese and then, and join together, you know, it's, it's kind of like you got the ghost of Shanghai Shek and the ghost of Chairman Mao looking down.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, real quickly, I need, I got about a minute. Give, tell the, tell this audience why Suez when they call this the American, when the China sitting there saying this is the American Suez, what does that mean for people that study geopolitics, sir?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, for people looking at it from a geopolitical perspective, when I believe it was Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal against the British and said we are going to take this and we are going to have control of this canal. Now again, the key maritime choke point. The British came in, they went to force it back open. The US Said no, we're not going to get involved. We were not interested. The countries in the region said, no, we're not going to do this. That forced a withdrawal in that case, which we haven't seen in this case, by the way. But it marks sort of the, you know, the idea that on the world stage the British Empire was no more, that Pax Britannia no longer ruled the waves. And so the Chinese are very quietly trying to put that out now that that's what's happened to Pax Americana.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, we're getting more into this pesobic. Captain Fennell, Sam Faddis on the other side. Fellow patriots. The Federal Reserve has portrayed America for over a century. Printing fiat, inflating away your savings, serving globalist masters. But President Trump is ending it. President Trump is wielding a 112-year-old law to reclaim control from the rogue Federal Reserve. He's replacing Jerome Powell. Slashing rates, igniting America's re industrialization. Now, this is not theory. Government backed industry plus low rates unleashes super cycles. History does repeat. Gold's already exploding. Miners are up over 400%. In the last year, what Rickards is calling Trump's gift is wealth for American patriots, not global handouts. Now it's America's turn. Jim Rickards, former CIA and Pentagon veteran, says act now. Go to insider2026.com that is insider2026.com to get Jim Rickards Strategic Intelligence newsletter today. Strategic intelligence based upon predictive analytics. It's what chairman and CEO throughout the world read, and you should, too.

[Captain Gavin Finnell]

It's social.

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

He threatened to wipe out a civilization. That statement elicited a huge response in America if Iran did not come to the table and make a deal. Yesterday by the deadline, was the president really prepared to wipe out Iran entirely?

[Pete Hegseth]

Like I said, we had a target set locked and loaded of infrastructure, bridges, power plants. Remember, this is a terror regime. Military regime used all of these things for dual use to fund their military, to fund their, their terror campaigns. We had a lot of legitimate targets. They knew exactly the scope of what we were capable of. We hit some military targets on Kharg, which is a bit of a signal they can't defend it. And so the Iran ultimately understood their ability, their future to produce, to generate power to fuel their terrorist regime was in our hands, was in President Trump's hands. That's why they came to the table. He ultimately said, we can take it all from you. Your ability to export energy will be taken away, and the United States military has the ability to strike those things with impunity. That type of threat is what brought them to the place where they effectively said, hey, okay, we want to cut this deal.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, it's interesting. I think it was Gavin Finnell yesterday, it was yesterday said that the love tap that, that the president or the CENTCOM gave Carg island on the military was a precursor what was going to happen? Reagan Reese joins us. Reagan, bold question. Really appreciate you asking it, particularly coming from what I would call the Daily Caller. More conservative media, you know, New York Times, everybody saying, oh, these are softball questions. You guys ask anything, but you ask great questions all the time. What did you think of the response?

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Well, first, I just want to say, Steve, yesterday I got a lot of texts from friends and family who are big supporters of President Trump's who were worried about that truth social post, who were scared, who didn't know what to expect, who thought that a larger war was going to escalate. And that's why I felt this question was really important to ask, like, what was behind this threat? Was it a real threat? The response, you know, the underlying question within My question is, were we going to go after civilians? Were we actually going to just flatten Iran entirely? And what Secretary Hegseth there says is that they were going to target infrastructure, bridges, energy plants, et cetera. He goes on to say that they are going to target places that fuel the Iranian regime, which signals to me that it was going to still be within the bounds of this war, is going to really just threaten Iran's military. And like you mentioned before, Carg island, those threats, those attacks that they made there was kind of a preview of what was to come. And so some are interpreting it as, yes, they were going to follow through on the threat. It's hard to say. You never want to take what they say is face value. And honestly, that's why I'm considering recycling. The question for other administration officials later today.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, wow, Reagan, before I let you bounce, because I know you're super busy today and thank you for taking time out to come on. You know, you've, you've been in the Oval and interviewed the President. I believe it was a one on one. You're highly regarded by the White House community communication staff because you're pulling kind of double duty. You're at the White House and at the Pentagon when it's important. As you look at this thing today, what did we actually agree to? Because we're going to have treata parsion later, the Iranians are putting out this maximalist position of these 10, that include reparations, they control Hormuz under kind of our guidance or. And at least President Trump and others are saying, well, that's not the 10 we agreed to. They're different. As you see it right now, as one of our top reporters, what was actually agreed to to get us to kind of this joint stand down that everybody appears once?

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Well, that's the question, Steve. I mean, I've been talking to other reporters because that's, you don't just talk to your sources, you talk to other reporters to hear what they know. And everyone is a little bit unsure. Sure, exactly. On what we agreed to. I think the big question is, is, did we agree to something temporary or is this war completely over? A lot of the messaging you see coming out of the administration is that this ceasefire is within the bounds of that timeline that the President originally set that four to six weeks. And so that signals to me that this isn't just a temporary ceasefire. This is an official end to the war. But then you go to the Pentagon press briefing today and you hear from Secretary Hegseth who says we're going to continue to hang out in the area and the Pentagon is still on standby in case they need to strike and fire back up again. And so I think the big question is, you know, there are a bunch of different things within this 10 point, 15 point plan, but did we actually agree to end the war or is this just going to last a couple of days and it's going to keep going? That's something I'm not seeing people really talk about. And I think that's key to consider as you're reading everything that's coming out of the administration,

[Steve Bannon]

absolutely central Reagan, where do people get you on social media and over the Daily Caller for your reporting?

[Simone Sanders Townsend]

Ma', am, I'm on all the platforms, Instagram, regrettably, I'm on TikTok. I'm on Twitter or X at Reagan Reese underscore, very easy.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, ma'.

[Jack Posobiec]

Am.

[Steve Bannon]

Great job of the Daily Caller. Thank you. Jack Posobic, back to you. It's a framework to kind of get to something more permanent or semi permanent or however it is. But you can tell the direction of President Trump and the Pentagon. They feel they've achieved their objectives. Your thoughts on this, particularly the maximalist position that the Iranians are taking. This entire thing, and let's call them what they are, their sponsors in Beijing, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, that's exactly like, look, Iran is attempting to frame this, remember, not just for the regional partners, or I should say regional adversaries, the Arab states, the Saudis, who have always been their top regional rival. They're also their backing of China. This is all about their independence, but also their local domestic population. They need to go and bring this out to the domestic population to say, look, they took out our supreme Leader. They turned him into a glorious martyr. Now we are able to say that we won, we defeated them. They said they were going to wipe us out. That didn't happen. They said they were going to take out the revolution. That didn't happen. And Steve, we're also, you know, I'm paying very close attention to see what's going to happen with the Supreme Leader because they said this guy was so worried about assassinations that he's been sending handwritten notes so that, so that the CIA and Mossad would be able to track the electronics that were going in to exactly where he is the same way. And the New York Post has the story up that the American airman was saved by just being able to use AI to find the beating of his heart using this system called Ghost Murmur. If that report is to be believed, that they were able to track a human heartbeat in the middle of the desert and use these type of signals to be able to track potentially even specific individuals.

[Captain Gavin Finnell]

So.

[Jack Posobiec]

So, Steve, there's a lot to be said here. I do think that the Iranians look there, and a lot of these people who are saying, oh, Iran did so well, they overperformed. You got to look at the scoreboard. The scoreboard does not show that Iran was able to fight off the Americans and the amount of damage that they committed to Israel, while they were able to punch through the Iron Dome on a number of times, the damage was, quite frankly, de minimis. It was de minimis. So is Israel invulnerable? No. But they didn't do anything to knock off the stability of Israel whatsoever, the way that they're running around claiming that they did, and the United States continued to be able to pound them. So are they toothless? No, but they are not some kind of, you know, monster that's about to take over the Middle east the way that they're saying they're just not. So, Steve, what, what we see here, though, I think, is that the president is working in, to create a new normal for the Middle East, a new normal whereby in you're going to have the Americans, you're going to have the Gulf nations, Israel will be there, of course. But perhaps, and I keep saying this, this is all about a grand deal that we're going to see between the United States and China come when? May 14, when the President heads over to Beijing to sit down as well with Xi Jinping.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, that's the whole thing about American Suez, because that's the issue Captain Fennell's drilled into us to keep. The main thing, the main thing, the defense of Taiwan, is in the vital national security interest of the United States. Let me just reiterate this. The Middle east and the Gulf Emirates and the Persian Gulf and Ukraine, you roll it all up. It's a sideshow. It's just a sideshow. And the Israel situation is a side. I don't care what. Mark Levin and all his colleagues are all throwing the toys out of the pram this morning. President Trump goes from the world's greatest leader to, oh, you're quitting too early. The Israel first crowd, that's a sideshow to a sideshow when they talk about American Suez with the Suez Canal. Nasser, an Arab nationalist, not a. Although supposedly a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but he was an Arab nationalist. And the era of Arab nationalism decided to Take the Suez Canal. Both Israel and the Brits put together a counter striking force, and they assumed that the United States of America was going to be there with them. And it was General Eisenhower who had led the coalition in the great crusade in World War II in Europe, said, we're not doing that. That's kind of outside of our bailiwick. You know, we fought in the desert against Rommel. We're not going back there. You guys are going to have to handle his own. And that was a shock. Anthony Eden, these guys were in shock. And it was really the beginning of at least the end of the empire east of Suez and came as a shock. That's why you're going to hear this. This is America's Suez right here. What President Trump did, I think far, far, far from it. Both the hemispheric defense from the Arctic all the way through South America, coupled with really where our strategic pivot is, Jack, it's not Mackinder's Central Asian heartland. It's the vast Pacific Ocean, which is an American lake. And you take the three island chains, which gets you right up there to Taiwan, that is in the vital national security interests of the good old United States of America. And you're absolutely correct. This is going to be one thing. You bring up AI Before I let you go, folks, we were going to start the show this morning. Even with everything that happened overnight, the single most important story today has nothing to do with, or at least nothing to do with what happened in the Middle east, except maybe some of the operations. It's artificial intelligence. It's anthropic. And now people can understand what this big fight between the Pentagon and anthropic. And if my crack team can put it up. So Jim Vanderhay and Mike Allen over that have real insights. And with these CEOs, Jack have put up a story everyone has to read this morning. We'll have Joe Allen, Mark Beale and the cast of All Stars on this afternoon. This is the single most important thing that's been revealed. It ain't about the Middle East. It's not about the Strait of Hormuz. This is about species. You guessed it. As we've been warning, there are systems out there and AI models that cannot be controlled by the AI guys. They admit this. It turns out. They say the White House has known this for six weeks. Other people in the industry have known it for a couple of months. Jack. I think that's part. I think this is part of the battle with the Pentagon. They've had also, I Think this is what the system you just talked about. People have been blowing Jack and I up behind the scenes saying hey, there's super weapons that are about to be deployed. There's all these super weapons like greater than tactical nuclear weapons. I believe this is part of it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack Posovic, you Steve, there's no question that AI is the new superweapon. AI is going to be the nukes of the future and the real danger here. And you look at the Axios piece that's out today talking about how the how D.C. governs by crisis. It's one of the best lines have ever heard because it's exactly true and it holds true across administrations. But there's a pause that I think that people really need to understand and you don't need to go full Joe Allen and Dark Aeon, which of course we've got the, we've got a copy of it sitting right over here. But people need to understand. You hook this one of these things up clawed or anthropic. Hook that up to an aircraft carrier. You hook that up to the USS Gerald Ford. If you hook that up to America's nuclear missile stockpile, what is going to happen next? Even one F35 Lightning 2. If you hook this up, this thing goes self aware. Suddenly it's going to be and it's and by the way it's not just going to go after other countries, it's going to link up with other AIs and that is the danger

[Steve Bannon]

by the way. It's like the Terminator movie. Skynet is self aware. Jack, what's your social media. I know you got to bounce. Thanks for joining us this morning.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where people go yeah, thanks so much and God bless to the pos. We're going to be up at Jack Posic of course here later today. Real America's voice 2:00pm Eastern and then you get the podcast. We'll have the sit rep out every day.

[Steve Bannon]

Amazing Jack. Look forward to seeing you too. Jack Posic. Okay, Fel fatus next. Fellow patriots, the Federal Reserve has portrayed America for over a century. Printing fiat, inflating away your savings, serving globalist masters. But President Trump is ending it. President Trump is wielding a 112 year old law to reclaim control from the rogue Federal Reserve. He's replacing Jerome Powell. Slashing rates, igniting America's re industrialization. Now this is not theory. Government backed industry plus low rates unleashes super cycles. History does repeat. Gold's already exploding. Miners are up over 400% in the last year. What Rickards is calling Trump's gift is wealth for American patriots, not global handouts. Now it's America's turn. Jim Rickards, former CIA and Pentagon veteran, says act now. Go to insider2026.com that is insider2026.com to get Jim Rickards Strategic Intelligence newsletter today. Strategic intelligence based upon predictive analytics. It's what chairman and CEO throughout the world read. And you should, too.

[Pete Hegseth]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Stephen said getchef that's been reporting. UAE and Kuwait are reporting that they're being hit by missiles still. Also, I think they went after don't know if the Houthis, their allies or the Revolutionary Guard did try to strike at the pipeline that going to the Red Sea of the Saudis. Also, Netanyahu's office has reconfirmed what they said overnight. We'll get Fedesen on this one that Lebanon is not part of this deal. Sorry, not sorry. That might be surprising to the guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but we're going to get to all that. Captain Fennell, you've done amazing reporting here of the military aspects of this. Let me just ask you, though, broaden it out for a second. Is this the American Suez or what happens in Beijing tentatively scheduled for, I think the 13th, 14th, 15th of May, and Taiwan, as you know, the Komintan is over there right now kowtowing. Would Chiang Kai Shek be rolling over in his grave kowtowing to Beijing over the next couple of days as a tee up for that meeting to jam us? Is that gonna be the American Suez, sir?

[Captain Gavin Finnell]

Steve, I agreed with what you said to Jack in the previous segment. I do not see this as American Suez. The performance over the last 39 days of our combat forces against Iran is unprecedented history. So I would say this is more like, you know, the end of World War II in a sense that we've done something very significant. It's not over. But in terms of what we've been able to demonstrate is really, really unprecedented in terms of the ability of our military to systematically bring a nation to come to a negotiating table like this in just less than five weeks. So I think that's what history will see. And President Trump's aware of this impact from China and the impact on China. He's put out today said, I'm putting a 50% tariff on any arms suppliers to Iran. And that's important because in the last six weeks, China has supplied sodium percolate, which is used to build ballistic missiles on, on a number of Five Russell ships, Iranian ships, Revolutionary Guard supply ships that have come in over the course of the last six weeks. So he's saying now, if you do this, China, you're going to lose 50 of your trade with the United States. So this is, this is well thought out. And he's, he's aware of what's going on. And so I think the message is we're going to dominate this area. We have dominated it. We're going to open it up. One of the tests will clearly be will the strait open without this one or $2 million fee that the Iranians are somehow trying to claim that they're taking? Oman's already come out in the last four hours and said we will not pay anything. So this is kind of significant. And I think the rest of the world, based on the United nations conventional law of the sea, there's going to be a lot of pushback internationally to say we're not going to pay to transit through an international waterway. And that'll. The test will be, if that's allowed to happen, maybe if we see a United States Navy warship conduct the freedom of navigation transit without being attacked, that'll demonstrate our power there. But again, back to the mission.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, but, but hang, hang, hang on. I want to talk about the broader mission, but they're also saying there's paid in Chinese yuan. Would you not agree with me that the recommendation we would make to the President right now, the Commander in Chief, is like, as this thing gets another week into it and we get more refinement on the 10 points for the intermediate ceasefire and then for a longer kind of peace arrangement, I don't think it's going to be a treaty, but some acknowledgement that we're going to lay our arms down. Shouldn't we take both carrier battle groups in the North Arabian Sea and maybe take the Tripoli in a couple and transfer those back through the Straits of Malacca to the South China Sea and maybe have them do freedom of navigation runs, which we haven't done in the Straits of Taiwan, to let the, let the masters in Beijing know that the United States Navy's here and it just kicked ass in the Middle east and is prepared to defend Taiwan, sir, 100%.

[Captain Gavin Finnell]

I have been calling for a long time for the United States Navy to send an aircraft carrier strike group. Not just a destroyer, not just something with an aircraft like a P8, but we need to send an aircraft carrier through. The last time a United States Navy aircraft carrier went through the Taiwan strait was in 2007. USS Kitty Hawk, which I had just served on previously a couple years before. And it was only because there had been a typhoon coming up through the South China Sea and they had to get out of port quickly to escape the typhoon that they actually went through. So we have not enforced our freedom of navigation statements that we've heard from many administrations. Fly anywhere, sail anywhere, steam anywhere. It sounds good, but you got to do it, you got to follow through. So I would suggest we do a freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz. And then when the Lincoln's done and this thing is now calmed down and we feel confident, maybe we leave the bush in the med, but when the Lincoln goes home, she should come back through the Strait of Malacca and then go right up through the Taiwan Strait as a signal to Xi and the rest of them that, hey, what's good for the goose will be good for the gander, which is you, China. So don't get any ideas about Taiwan.

[Steve Bannon]

Walk me through your concerns about the enforcement of the cease fire. There's already kind of a scrambling around of, you know, what you just mentioned. What's going to happen in the Strait of Hormuz. Are they going to charge a fee, what's it going to be paid in, or are they just going to blow that off? Other aspects of their nuclear weapons capability? Mark Levin and these guys saying, you haven't done the job there, you still need to go get the nuclear dust. Your thoughts on. On the continued potential of military operations here?

[Captain Gavin Finnell]

I think there's still a real potential. I mean, and secretary Warheadseth mentioned that there's still some strikes happening, there's still some kinetic action from the Iranians and they're attributing that to the poor command and control and communications and this mosaic architecture that Sam's told us about. Fine, so we'll let that go for a couple of days. But if that continues, then we got a problem. But I think the real bigger issue is the nuclear issue, which is the no enrichment over uranium, which we have said is part of our points. And the Iranians have said we'll never allow that. And then there was also in our comments about nuclear dust, as you mentioned, a joint excavation and removal, joint U. S. Iranian program. If the Iranians agree to that, that would be phenomenal. Let's see what happens. So I think what happens here, I think it's in Friday in Pakistan, will let us know more about that. But that would be for me, the key sticking point, nukes.

[Steve Bannon]

Captain, hang on for one second. I know you got a bounce. But I want to get you on the other side. Trina Parsi is going to join us us tentatively. Also got Sam Fatis. All this talk about what's going to happen in Beijing. All this talk now. Beijing saying that they were very involved both with their partners in Pakistan and in in in the Persians. Talk about paying this toll in Chinese yuan, not petrodollars. End of the Dollar Empire Understand what the BRICS nations are trying to do, how it impacts gold, why gold has been a hedge for 3,000 years in times of financial turbulence. Birch Gold.com promo code Bannon the end of the dollar Empire Talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Do it today, not tomorrow, today. Short BREAK. Do you owe back taxes or you haven't filed your taxes in years? Now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax, the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more in recent years. If you owe, the IRS can garnish your wages, levy your bank accounts, seize your retirement and even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of if the IRS will act, it's a question of when it will act. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a costly mistake. Representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own waives your rights and cost you more money. They are not, and let me repeat, the IRS is not on your side. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax matters once and for all today. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon for your free discovery call with Tax Network USA. Let me repeat, 800-958-1000. Tell them Bannon sent you. Don't let the IRS be the first to act. Take advantage of first mover advantage.

[Jack Posobiec]

You move.