Episode 5292: Victory In Texas Over Muslim Indoctrination; MAGA Running For Congress In Florida

Summary

Bannon's War Room: Episode 5292

Theme: Victory In Texas Over Muslim Indoctrination; MAGA Running For Congress In Florida
Date: April 11, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests: John Strand (MAGA congressional candidate, J6 defendant), Drew Thomas Allen (author, commentator), Taj (founder, Warpath Coffee)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steve Bannon and guests delve into three core topics: the escalating threat from AI-driven cyber risks, the populist/nationalist America First movement’s battle on domestic fronts (notably school curriculum in Texas), and new MAGA-aligned congressional candidates emerging from the grassroots—including a high-profile January 6 defendant. The episode also explores deep state overreach, the aftermath of the Trump presidency, election integrity, and the enduring culture war within American institutions.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. The Threat of AI: Mythos, Cybersecurity, and Geopolitical Stakes

[00:53–02:04, 06:24–11:45]

• Bannon sounds the alarm about Anthropic’s "Mythos Preview," an advanced AI system capable of autonomously identifying and exploiting software vulnerabilities—posing unprecedented risks to financial infrastructure and national security.
• Top officials (Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen, Fed Chair Jerome Powell) are urgently consulting with Wall Street about the need for swift response capabilities, warning that AI could "take down a money center bank in seconds."
• Bannon frames this as a populist crisis, stating:

  "This cyber capability can take down an entire money center bank in seconds ... Where's your savings? Where's your checking account? These weapons are so far above ..." [10:17]

• Critique of big tech and corporate interests—that entities like Microsoft, Alphabet, and Nvidia "are not your friend," and their pursuit of profit places the American public at risk.
• Urgent legislative call echoed: the need for an "Atomic Energy Commission but for AI," paralleling how nuclear risks were managed in the mid-20th century.

2. America First & The Populist Movement’s Evolution

[02:04–06:21]

• Bannon recaps a New York Times piece tracing the evolution of America First and MAGA via deep divides in the Republican Party.
• Defends President Trump’s unique historical role:

  "President Trump, as I say, is a leader like Washington and Lincoln. And they had horrible flaws ... but he's at the level of those other two is importance to this republic." [04:16]

• Positioning MAGA as fundamentally about "populist nationalism," and distinguishing it from globalism or "Israel First" neo-conservative factions.
• Texas education/culture war highlighted: The fight over "Muslim indoctrination" in schools is positioned as a defense of “real American history” and Western tradition.

3. John Strand: J6 Prisoner, Now Congressional Candidate (FL-19)

[19:11–28:10]

Strand’s Experience & Platform

• Former January 6 defendant who spent one year in federal prison after refusing a plea deal ("because it was a lie").
• Running in Florida’s 19th congressional district, calling for the restoration of “courage, common sense, and Judeo-Christian values.”
• Central campaign plank: the "2020 Sovereignty Act"
  • Calls for 20-year moratorium on all immigration and 20 million deportations.
  • Proposes enforcing E-Verify and debanking illegal immigrants to accelerate self-deportation.

Notable Quotes

• On political engagement:

  "The war for America is waged at the primary election level. So voters only show up in November. They've already lost." – John Strand [20:42]

• On being called to politics after prison:

  "God did call me in a prison cell and said, I want you to step forward and run for office. That wasn't on my bingo card ... But it was God's call." – John Strand [24:12]

• Bannon’s reaction:

  "These federal prisons are hell holes. Oh, God. What did you learn?" – Steve Bannon [23:15]

Key Moments

• Strand alleges abuse in prison: four months of "super isolation" without access to attorney or family [21:20].
• Highlights the importance of Christian participation in politics [24:45].
• Directs listeners to his campaign: JohnStrand.com and @JohnStrandUSA [27:47].

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4. Deep State, The ‘Russia Hoax,’ & The Case for Accountability

With Drew Thomas Allen
[32:34–48:39]

Allen’s New Book: "The Clinton Hoax and the Obama Coup"

• Uses the metaphor of Renaissance art restoration to describe peeling away layers of disinformation:

  "The upshot of what Tulsi Gabbard did with much of this declassification is that she removed the equivalent of that grime ... and so what she revealed and what I reveal in this book is really the underpainting, the blueprint of the Trump Russia collusion hoax ..." — Drew Allen [34:00]

• Asserts the Obama administration and Clinton campaign fabricated the Russia collusion narrative to “save Hillary’s campaign” and, after the election, to undermine Trump’s presidency ("a soft coup").

Key Political Claims

• Argues that official U.S. investigations suppressed credible intelligence while amplifying the Steele dossier, leading to years of "lawfare" against Trump.
• Calls for major tribunals and criminal trials for officials involved in the "coup":

  "Is there any doubt in your mind that we need a ... major set of tribunals to try put these people on trial, try them and put them in prison..." — Bannon [42:24]

Contextualizing the Stakes

• Allen claims the deep state is emboldened due to lack of accountability, warning "we are in a more dangerous position now than we were even a few years ago." [46:21]
• Bannon frames 2028 elections as existential: “If we lose the midterms and somehow we don't win in 2028, trust me, they're going to come looking for people to send them to prison ..." [48:39]

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5. Christian Nationalism & Martyrdom in Conservative Leadership

[47:11–48:12]

• Allen references his previous book, "For Christ and Country: The Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk," arguing Kirk’s death should have galvanized more Christian men to enter public life.
• "Everybody needs to become their own version of Charlie Kirk ... [his] conviction came from his Christian faith." [47:11]

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6. Populist Entrepreneurship: Warpath Coffee

With Taj
[49:25–53:10]

• Taj recounts starting his business to raise awareness of Benghazi ("Hillary Clinton Killed My Friends" T-shirts), eventually pivoting after being deplatformed in 2020.
• Now runs Warpath Coffee, emphasizing quality and non-political branding, with distribution at Shields (Salt Lake City, Meridian) and online (WarpathCoffee.com, Amazon).
• Taj highlights business perseverance in the face of big tech censorship, offers promo code WARROOM for 20% off.

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Notable Quotes

• Steve Bannon, on the populist movement:

  "This show is a show that is MAGA in that its basis is populist nationalism, that change in this country. And President Trump, as I say, is a leader like Washington and Lincoln ... But he's at the level of those other two is importance to this republic." [04:16]

• John Strand, on Christian civic duty:

  "Christians have abdicated their civic duty for far too long ... we would take this country back in a heartbeat." [24:45]

• Drew Thomas Allen, on the role of faith:

  "Charlie Kirk ... sought out debate and he had conviction. That conviction came from his Christian faith. It didn't come from anywhere else." [47:11]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• AI Threat & Cybersecurity: 00:53–02:04, 06:24–11:45
• America First & Trump’s Legacy: 02:04–06:21
• John Strand Interview - Prison, Faith, and Congressional Campaign: 19:11–28:10
• The Deep State & 'Russia Hoax' with Drew Thomas Allen: 32:34–48:39
• Christian Nationalism & Political Engagement: 47:11–48:12
• Warpath Coffee - Populist Entrepreneurship: 49:25–53:10

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Conclusion

This episode weaves together populist-nationalist themes, dire warnings about technological and political overreach, and a persistent call to civic engagement—especially for conservatives and Christians. Guest appearances by John Strand and Drew Thomas Allen underscore a narrative of victimhood and resurgence, positioning the MAGA movement as the essential vanguard in battles over culture, sovereignty, and the fate of American democracy.

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Listeners are encouraged to check the references (e.g., JohnStrand.com, Drew Allen's substack) for direct activism and resources.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[John Strand]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul,

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

[Drew Thomas Allen]

country, this country will be saved.

[John Strand]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

US officials are warning of a new phase in cyber risk driven by artificial intelligence. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen and Fed Chair Jerome Powell recently convened Wall street leaders

[John Strand]

over concerns about a powerful new AI model from Anthropic.

[Steve Bannon]

It's called Mythos Preview and it may

[John Strand]

represent a turning point.

[Steve Bannon]

Anthropic says the system can autonomously find and exploit software vulnerabilities, including so called zero day flaws which are unknown to

[John Strand]

developers and highly valuable to hackers.

[Steve Bannon]

In some cases, these bugs have gone undetected for decades. The model can also chain together multiple weaknesses to gain full control of systems, compressing complex vulnerability research into minutes, often without human supervision. That capability is why access is tightly restricted. Under a program called Project Glasswing, companies

[John Strand]

like Microsoft, Alphabet and Nvidia are using

[Steve Bannon]

the tool defensively, racing to identify and fix vulnerabilities before attackers do. But risks remain. Less than 1% of the flaws identified so far have been fully patched. And as AI accelerates both defense and attack, the window to respond is shrinking. Anthropic believes AI will ultimately favor defenders. But for now, the transition may be

[John Strand]

volatile and increasingly difficult to control.

[Steve Bannon]

The window to correct what is shrinking. It's Saturday the 11th of April in the year of our Lord 2026. So on the 30 front war that we've got going on and we must focus on this country, I will say one thing. I think this is what's important in. And if we can pull the New York Times piece, it should be up on get her right now, my crack producer. We just put it up, I think Elizabeth just put it up for me. There's a New York Times piece and it talks about America First. It's a, it's a thought piece of where America first goes and it obviously deals with much of the vitriol that's going on about America first and who's America first and who's MAGA and who's not maga. And different people are attacking the president. As you know, President Trump, Gibbs as good as he gets. So he's attacking back. But there two, there are many voices in this article, two of the voice. One is Brian Kennedy, one of our contributors. And Brian actually talks about the war Room and he says he wishes that he didn't sound like the only defender of the president's actions as far as actions goes. And he says because we get Lindsey Graham or Tel Aviv Lavinity, these other people, they're playing, they're looking at it from an Israel first perspective. He's looking from America first perspective. As you know, Brian makes the case of why this is President Trump's core America first policy. We just had Cleo on with the, with Manifest Destiny in the western Pacific and the geographic pivot for hemispheric defense being the Pacific. And we had the schoolbook fight in, in Texas, because this is all inextricably linked. It's to teach our history as our history actually was, and how it unfolded and particularly how it unfolded through the eyes of the people at the time. It's very easy to look back over history and look back over it and put your set of values on top of that and say, oh, yeah, well, these guys were good guys or these men and women were good or bad or. But to look at their eyes as things that happened at the time. This is what this show is about. This show is a show that is MAGA in that its basis is populist nationalism, that change in this country. And President Trump, as I say, is a leader like Washington and Lincoln. And they had horrible flaws. They had flaws, right? Deep flaws. President Trump's flawed, he's the first to admit that. But he's at the level of those other two is importance to this republic. The first was there at the founding of the nation. The second came with the refounding or the rebirth of the nation through a bloody civil war, one of the worst civil wars in history. And President Trump's here for the reclamation of this nation, to return America to her greatness. Are all of his actions great? No, they're not. Are all his policies great? No, they're not. But it's the central drive of the man and what he stands for and particularly where he's taken us in this journey. When he first came on the scene as a politician, I don't know, in 14 or 15, let's say, because he's taken us 20 or 30 years or 40 years ahead of where we would have been. You always have to look at what the alternatives were. And what were the alternatives at the time. It was a gop. And all of you, virtually all of you, not all, but most, were party to that, as I was and my brothers and sisters were, and all of us in supporting what was turns out to be total globalism and destruction of the basic working man and woman in this country in a globalist foreign policy, of course, the Democrats are far radical. And now you see in this country today, and what has happened in the Biden regime and the illegitimate Biden regime, a election that was stolen. We're going to have an author on, in a moment that was inspired by. By the great Renaissance art in Florence to really come back and write a book that would lay out, to use it as the predicate or the basis of what would Of. Of explain to you what the deep state can do. And we also have a young man that's going to join us that was part of J6, was part of J6 and is now running for Congress. And he's got some ideas about what this country should do for immigration. These are the voices that are coming forward. We're in a constant, evolving revolution. But you, this audience, are the centerpiece of it. Why is that? Because you're the vanguard of a cadre that makes change happen. Why is Fox News not that powerful at the end of the day? Because they can't galvanize people. It's just the same Republican Murdoch talking points day in and day out, not very interesting, kind of boring. I call it TV for stupid people. You're not that. And I understand this show is not a. We don't cover a lot of the topics that are the gossipy topics and the fun topics and who said what about what and what's. It's because it doesn't. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Why do I know it doesn't matter? Because look back over the years since President Trump's been here, that part of it just is ephemeral. That's noise, not signal. Signal is what's going on in the great state of Texas right now, because that's a war we have to win. Signal is what's going on with this immigration situation. Not just HB1 visas, all these scams, what they call the rest of legal immigration, not simply the illegal and the mass deportations that we must have to rid ourselves of these illegal alien Invaders brought in by the globalists to destroy and crush the African American Hispanic working class and the legal immigration that they're the gut, the middle class and particularly those young men and women have played by the rules and become STEM workers only to see their futures destroyed by the corporations. And remember, the corporations are not your friend. Don't come up with some fantasy milk Friedman. Oh, the corporations and I'm ubermensch and you know, we're Superman and you know Atlas Shrugged. How's Atlas Shrugged working for you? The drivers of the most progressive forces in the country are the capitalists on Wall street of which I used to be one at Goldman Sachs and the corporatist. And nothing personifies that more than artificial intelligence. Right now they got a problem. They got a damn big problem. Everything we said on the show since we got Joe Allen over here from the Federalist back in 2020, everything has come to fruition that we said was going to come. And now they're in a jam because as they fight every day on Capitol Hill and the most important battle that's going on behind the scenes, which is everything, this fight over artificial intelligence because you're talking about unbelievable wealth in unbelievable power, but also unbelievable danger because you're looking in the abyss. Scott Bessant, as you know, you know Scott as well as anybody, he was a contributor here for years. He really got his sea legs on going on media right here in the war room. You know Scott Bessant, Scott Bessant is not, he's not Steve Bannon. His hair is not on fire every day. He's a safe pair of hands. When we had this big fight with Elon Musk back in, when Elon was down at Mar a Lago in December, January of 24 and 25, when Elon Musk was putting for it, wait for it, Howard Lutnick as Secretary of the treasury and we were pushing hard. Scott Besant, what did I continue to say over and over again, given what President Trump is going to do, given the disruption President Trump is going to have, you're going to need a safe pair of hands for the capital markets as Secretary of Treasury because you got Powell over at the Fed who's let's say this, not with the program and Scott Bessant is steady yeti and he's done a magnificent job of executing on President Trump's economic plan at the same time keeping the capital markets, I mean, hey folks, the ten year treasury, as much as it bounces only at 4.3%, right? You could have had a Secretary treasury, that with a couple of missteps or being a promoter like Howard Lutnick, you would have had it five or six and your life would have been quite changed and President Trump's second term would right now be in free fall. But Scott Besant was there. So when Scott Besant gets with Powell, and let's say this, they're not besties. When you get these two guys together and they say, hey, you know what we should do? I think this thing's serious enough that we ought to call the heads of all the big banks and get them in a room and we got to talk to them about what mythos is. Here's why this cyber capability can take down an entire money center bank in seconds. Let me repeat that. It can take them take down a money center bank like Citicorp or JP Morgan or Wells Fargo, bank of America, the biggest of the big, in a second. In seconds they say, well, Steve, big deal. So it happens. Oh yeah, where's your savings? Where's your checking account? Where's your money market account? These weapons are so far above. This is why Anthropic had this huge battle with the Department of War 30 days ago, which I told you about, that they wouldn't turn these things over. My point that the corporatists and the oligarchs once again looking after their own self interests have put this country in jeopardy right now. You know, a lot of things we have, particularly sponsors that come on, we say they're there to take your anxiety and your angst away. You know, whether it's about credit card debt or, you know, your taxes or home title lock or just on and on. Right. Because they know their issues that they can help with to make sure that your, your life does save you the opportunity cost of spending your life on something you don't want to spend it on. And we keep telling, go talk to these people, well, this one, this is why we're hammering every day to make sure that we get this legislation, right? To make sure that we set up some sort of atomic energy commission as it was for Oppenheimer, to keep control of the nuclear weapons. You have to, because this is 100 times deadlier than a nuclear weapon. This is my point about what happened in Tehran and the imminent threat of the nuclear weapons, which we know was decades, let's say not decades away. Years away. Years and years and years and years away. Not an imminent threat. The imminent threat is inside the wire here in this country and it's here now where there is the Specter of this artificial intelligence that we don't quite frankly know what's going on. You know why? Because there's no ability for us to have any transparency into these frontier labs. And they're run by just the people that are thinking about your, your, your, your happiness and your security and your stability of your neighborhoods and towns and villages and churches and communities and small towns throughout America and you and your family, all that, the Zuckerbergs and the Elon Musk and the Sam Altmans in the anthropic. You feel good about that. You feel good about going to sleep at night and knowing that they're the guardians of the future of the nation because they have been able to on essentially government money or your pension fund money through private equity or Wall street or your tax money. Either way, it's coming from you. It's not their money, it's your money. It's your pension fund money financed this or your tax dollars. You don't think that plays into a Greek tragedy that the very people, through their own strength of what they earned and what they did, either pay taxes or created a little bit of wealth that then pension funds did to finance this. Your destruction, your country's destruction, your children's destruction, your family's destruction. That's what we're talking about. It's inside the wire here. It's not down to, it's not below the rubble. Our problem is not below the rubble in Tehran and it ain't going to get solved in Islamabad. That's a fantasy. The problem's here and it's a ticking time bomb on many, many, many fronts. And you're awakened to that. And you see where victory begets victory. Next we're going to go to Florida, we're going to talk immigration and then we're going to have a pull back the curtain on the deep state. All next in the war room. The American health care system is broken. And for most Americans, nothing changes. There's still delays, denials, high cost insurance, roadblocks. So when I find people doing things differently, I talk about it all. Family pharmacy is not your typical big chain pharmacy. 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You have to understand why the dollar is the basis of the world's financial system, what it means in relation to gold as a hedge, and what that means for you. We've laid this out in eight free installments over the years. Started when gold was, I don't know, $1,200 an ounce. Gold's now at 4,4700 out. But it ain't the price. It's the process that drives the value you inculcate that you understand money and power. You're a long way to understanding how the world works. Birchgold.com, promocoband do it today. Honored to be joined by AJ6 or John Strand. You join us. You're running for Congress. But, sir, you're a convict. You're. I shouldn't say a convict. In prison. Convicts of guys. You're an in. You were an inmate. You actually spent a year in prison for J6, is that correct?

[John Strand]

That's right, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes, I'm definitely not a convict, but hang on, but why would somebody that went to prison for J6. You're clearly an insurrectionist. Found guilty by a, what, a jury of your peers? Or the Biden regime came after you hard. Why would you have. Why would you have the arrogance didn't run for Congress, sir?

[John Strand]

Great question, Steve. Yeah, I definitely was convicted by a poisoned D.C. jury right in the heart of the problem in our nation. So, yeah, it's definitely time to flip that narrative and get really to the root of the poison that's destroying our country. I think we need to abolish the D.C. court. It never should have existed, Steve. I think we need to restrict DC the borders back down to a seat of federal government and not a thriving elite class that rules over the American people. So, yeah, I'm very excited to be running for Congress in Florida. [e-mail] I'm running to restore courage, common sense, and Judeo Christian values back into the government so we can finally end the fraud, waste, and abuse that's bankrupting this nation morally and financially and deliver what Americans actually need, which is security, affordability, and for God's sakes, accountability. So that's what we're [e-mail] in Florida. And I know the war room posse is excited for opportunities to get behind real patriots. You guys, this is your opportunity. It's our nation. It's our country. We have to take it back. And we're not having any apologies. No. No wavering Here we, we're going to forge straight ahead into this fight. And you know, Steve, I know you talk about this to the Warren Posse all the time, but the real key here in America, where it's supposed to be government of, by and for the people. This is the secret here. The war for America is waged at the primary election level. So voters only show up in November. They've already lost. Right. So we have to get really serious, really engaged and dig into primary elections so that we can actually get behind patriots instead of a continuous cycle of uniparty rhino puppets that just continue the status quo and suffocate the American people. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm sure you guys are too.

[Steve Bannon]

John, how many years were you sentenced to prison?

[John Strand]

So I was assaulted by an FBI SWAT team, disappeared in jail for four days without a phone call, and then charged with a 20 year felony, then given a get out of jail nearly free card of a single misdemeanor plea deal. But I refused. I turned it down because it was a lie. So I went to DC, was convicted by a DC jury, and then the prosecutor asked for eight years at my sentencing. Now, if you go to johnstrand.com j6 you will see a 13 minute video that will blow your mind. It's the security camera footage in the Capitol building. It shows every step I took in the building. So watch that and ask yourself, should he have even been in the courtroom, much less in a prison? But they asked for eight years. The judge ultimately sentenced me to just about three. And I only served exactly one year because I didn't take that plea deal. I turned it down and fought all the way to the Supreme Court where we won and was released after the Fisher decision and served exactly 366 days in a very terrible federal prison in Miami where they badly abused me. For Steve, you know how this goes. Four straight months in super isolation. I was cut off from my attorneys, which is wildly illegal. I was cut off from all contact with my family. They even blocked my mail. So the abuses were egregious. And this book that you can see right behind me, Patriot Plea. I really believe this book could inspire the nation to awaken and reignite the patriotism and commitment to civic participation that's necessary to reclaim the Republican. But the book will shock you. I detail everything. There's receipts, there's transcripts, the direct lies of the US prosecutor, the direct lies of the corrupt judge in the D.C. court. It's shocking. So I really encourage people to do what is Find the book [e-mail] book but it's going to blow your mind. Steve, you're in the book too.

[Steve Bannon]

These federal prisons are hell holes. Oh, God. What did you learn?

[John Strand]

Obviously.

[Steve Bannon]

No, when you were in prison, what did you learn and how did that inspire you to come back and run for elective office?

[John Strand]

Very good point. I never imagined running for public office, to be honest, Steve. And I've always loved my country. I was raised by great parents on a Judeo Christian foundation, and I've always wanted to make a difference in my life. But I've worked professionally as an actor, director, model, musician, etc. And it was in a prison cell in. In isolation with incredible abuse breaking me down where I came to God directly, or he came to me, I should say. And I realized this is the only way I can survive. This is simply trusting in him, turning to Him. And I've had that faith my whole life. It's what brought me to that point. But it was galvanized, like you said to your war room posse, that you galvanized people to not only understand the truth, but to put it into action. So I just had to put it at God's feet and say, God, rescue me from this. Preserve me, protect me. And he did. And he whispered into my heart and said, I am calling Christian men to rise up and reclaim this republic by taking positions in public office. Because I think that Christians have abdicated their civic duty for far too long. Steve, how many people that claim to be Christian in America even show up to vote in the general? Like, massive portions of Christians don't even show up to vote? 30, 40, 50%. So if we just woke up a little bit, we would take this country back in a heartbeat. But God did call me in a prison cell and said, I want you to step forward and run for office. That wasn't on my bingo card or my career plan, but it was God's call. I'm so honored and excited to be pursuing that. And I think each and every one of us has a position to play in the government. You know, church isn't just for pastors. It's for all of God's people building his kingdom. And America is government of, by, and for the people. So government isn't just for politicians. It is for all of us. It doesn't mean everyone runs for office, but everyone has a part to play in this great American experiment of liberty. And it's time for us to take it seriously, and it's time for us to take it back.

[Steve Bannon]

Before I let you go, I want to talk about your immigration. Talk to me about you think immigration is one of the biggest issues. Talk to me about your immigration plan. Yes, sir.

[John Strand]

Without a doubt, the immigration scam has completely torn apart the social fabric of our society, in our country. It is an evil scheme. We need to completely wake up to this and refuse to accept it any longer. So I am proposing the 2020 Sovereignty Act. Johnstrand.com Patriot for Congress. We're going to bring this to the Hill without apology or excuse. So we're calling for a 20 years of zero immigration and 20 million deportations. No exceptions, no excuses. We are sick and tired of the lies and the abuse of the American people, the exploitation of the middle class and simply the erosion of the actual rule of law. That's the bedrock of Western civilization and certainly the bedrock of American exceptionalism in our country. And we are sick and tired of the erosion of Americanism itself. And our culture, our Judeo Christian culture, our great traditions, our history, our people were a melting pot. We are Americans, all colors, all creeds, all backgrounds. But we are unified by what? By one nation under God. And that makes us indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. That's our national promise. So we have to commit to that promise. We have to commit to the rule of law. And we have to reject the immigration scam, importation of illegal voters and the erosion of our cultural cohesion. It's essential. So we're going to call for at least a minimum 20 year total moratorium on all immigration and visas. We're going to put the American people first and we are going to accelerate deportation so we can deport at least 20 million illegal aliens. There are probably 30 or 40 million in this country, but we'll start with 20 million over the next four to five years. Very aggressive pace, which we can accomplish with enforcing E VERIFY and enforcing the debanking of illegal aliens. So if you have an FDIC see insured bank and you're processing transactions for illegals, you are fined. That will stop real quick and illegals will deport themselves very quickly and we can reallocate money.

[Steve Bannon]

John, we're giving.

[John Strand]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, we gotta bounce. Send people to your website. I want people to go to your campaign site. I want them to follow you on social media where they go.

[John Strand]

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[Steve Bannon]

check it out right now. John Strand, we look forward to having you back, sir. Thank you. Short break. We're going to see how all this starts with the deep state next. Do you owe back taxes or you haven't filed your taxes in years? Now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax, the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more in recent years. If you owe, the IRS can garnish your wages, levy your bank accounts, seize your retirement and even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of if the IRS will act, it's a question of when it will act. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a costly mistake representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own waives your rights and cost you more money. They are not, and let me repeat, the IRS is not on your side. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax matters once and for all today. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon for your free discovery call with Tax Network USA. Let me repeat. 800-958-1000. Tell them Bannon sent you. Don't let the IRS be the first to act. Take advantage of first mover advantage. You move. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, welcome. I want to thank the folks, the team Glenn and Jenny's story at Patriot Mobile. 972 Patriot. You'll talk to someone with the East Texas accent about the greatest mobile service in the world. That's Patriot Mobile. You tell me you came from the war room posse. You get a one month freeze. You do the switch. And this is a country, a company that backs your values. We wouldn't have had this big victory on Sri, a law on Proposition 10, and we certainly wouldn't have had this victory down There with the Texas Education Board in the school books. It was not for Patriot Mobile. Glenn's story, Jenny's story. An amazing couple, an amazing company and they get in back of amazing causes. 972 Patriot also chapter if Medicare is too complicated for you to think through and it is, it's that way on purpose. There's $100 billion worth of fees annually that are out there and the insurance companies wanted to cut their way and it does with all these kind of consultants that don't make any sense. This is a data driven company. Just check out, you get a free consultation. 845-war- Room. Pretty simple set up just for the war room posse. 845 war room. Call today and talk to them about your alternatives when it comes to Medicare, a data driven company that can show you all the alternatives. 8:4 5 War Room. Free consultation just for the war room posse. Do it today. John Drew. Thomas Allen joins us. Drew, I think the last thing people need is another book on the Russia hoax unless it is a definitive account that ties everything together. You were inspired in Florence, Italy by a Renaissance painting by I think Leonardo da Vinci, the Adoration of the Magi. How does that tie back to writing a new book on the Russia hoax? Because I tell folks you just had John Strand on here who spent a year in a hellhole federal prison and I think what, four months in solitary confinement, what we call the shoe, that prison sentence is exactly what they wanted to have President Trump and people around President Trump. It's an entire Russia hoax. Sir, the floor is yours.

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yeah. I mean, look, there have been some wonderful books written about the Trump Russia collusion hoax couple, but they weren't beneficiaries of the declassified documents that came about because of Tulsi Gabbard. And so what you were left with was kind of a partial picture of just how bad it was and the actors involved and what happened. And so, yeah, when I was in Florence a number of years ago with my oldest daughter and only daughter at the time, she was six months old. Yeah, we came across a special exhibit of that Adoration of the Magi. And it was at the underpainting stage. So it was just kind of a monochrome layer, a blueprint. And it wasn't, you know, you would, you would go then go and add color. And what had happened though over the centuries is people had actually tried to paint over it to finish the painting. There was all this grime and varnish that actually covered up the blueprint that da Vinci had put There. And so it underwent this six year restoration process and all that was slowly removed and you could see this vivid scene before you and a blueprint of a da Vinci work that you really would never see otherwise. And so the upshot of what Tulsi Gabbard did with much of this declassification is that she removed the equivalent of that grime from this picture that had been covered up by spin from the media and lies and cover ups and things that we didn't know and so on and so forth. And so what she revealed and what I reveal in this book is really the underpainting, the blueprint of the Trump Russia collusion hoax turned couple and explain it in a way that we haven't understood it before.

[Steve Bannon]

Talk to me about the title of the book is the Clinton Hoax and the Obama Coup. What do you mean by that? What's the hoax part of the Clinton? And you are saying that a president United States was in back of a potential coup. Is that your point?

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yes. You know, it's important to remember behind every single Clinton scandal, Obama is so much worse and he tends to usurp what was Clinton's, whether it was related to Benghazi or later Trump Russia collusion. So, you know, look, it was a campaign dirty trick. It was a little bit worse than that during an election season in 2016. And the intention obviously was to save Hillary Clinton's candidacy because she came in running for office, you know, her childhood dream of being the first female president. She's power hungry and she's bogged down in scandals because of her own impropriety, whether it's the investigation into her email situation, sending classified emails on an illegal private server, or thanks to Peter Schweitzer's book Clinton Cash, the FBI was starting to look into, you know, pay for play while she was Secretary of State. Well, this is going to blow up her campaign. So she needs something that is really extravagant to distract from that scandal. So it's the Trump Russia collusion hoax and obviously Crossfire Hurricane, the FBI investigation, spying on Trump, you know, that started in the summer of 2016, but Donald Trump ultimately won that election in November. And everyone involved knew that it was not true, that it was totally made up and it should have ended there, right? I mean, okay, you tried, you gave it your best effort, Hillary and Barack Obama and everyone. But ultimately the American people overcame your hoax and elected Trump. Well, in December, after Trump's already elected, then Barack Obama's the one who gives the order to create the intelligence community assessment. The ica. And he also gives the order, effectively not to include all of the intelligence agencies, but to cherry pick and just use three in order to then sell the American people, give it the rubber stamp of approval from the administration, the official government seal that, yes, Trump indeed did collude with Russia, that Putin did want Trump to win. And so he goes into his first term bogged down in this, what's now a coup, an attempt to undermine the will of the American people to effectively maybe get to an impeachment if they can, but certainly to hamstring his first term.

[Steve Bannon]

And you make the case here, you're sure that you've connected the dots and made the case from documentation that there was actually a coup, that this hoax to try to get Hillary Clinton elected, but he had a disruptor, Trump, who they couldn't poll correctly, and we came out of nowhere to win, that there was definitely a couple. There's no doubt in your mind that you prove here, and the audience will get, if they buy the book, that you proved that there was a coup against a sitting president.

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yeah, there's no doubt left at all if you read the book. And it's all based on, you know, firsthand, you know, documentation. Obviously, one of the biggest revelations from the Tulsi Gabbard declassifications is that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, were actually intercepting these Russian memos that were documenting the very things that the Obama administration and Clinton campaign were doing, such as trying to coordinate and figure out how to make her scandals go away back channels between Loretta lynch communicating with the Clinton campaign, giving her updates on her email investigation, and then obviously there's things in these. And by the way, when I talk about these Russian memos, because maybe people aren't familiar, these are basically. These are basically. These are Russian spies who have absolutely hacked into our infrastructure and everything else. And they are sending these memos updating Putin, the Russian government. So their intent is accuracy on what's going on in American politics during an election season. And the biggest irony of all this, Stephen, is that the most accurate portrait of what the Democrats, Obama, Clinton and everyone did with Trump Russia collusion, it comes from the Russians, the very boogeymen that they wanted to use to try and defeat Trump in 2016. And so if you think about the Steele dossier, which was the basis of their justification to go and spy on Donald Trump, that was raw intelligence, right? Unverified. And we know it was all made up. Well, these Russian memos were also raw intelligence, but obviously they could have been Easily corroborated. So the big scandal here is that the FBI and the intelligence community and the Obama administration has two basically pieces of raw intelligence, right? One is the Steele dossier that Trump's colluding with Putin, and the other is raw intelligence from the Russians that are actually throwing evidence back in front of the Obama administration's face, even detailing the corrupt activities they're involved in to make all this go away. And so they dismiss all of the raw intelligence from the Russians, which could have been easily corroborated in an effort not to look into Hillary Clinton and what she's doing, and they elevate the raw intelligence from the Steele dossier, which we know had no basis in reality whatsoever, as a justification to go after President Trump. And so it's just a really, really shocking thing when you read these Russian memos and realize that at the same time that the Obama administration was trying to look away from Hillary Clinton, the Russians are actually throwing that evidence back in front of their faces. And so what are they gonna do? They have to just ignore it.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, so this is why I recommend people get this book, because you're going to have to get immersed in the details here and understand this, particularly on the actual disclosures. And I think it's very important to get to this. You've got the book the Clinton Hoax, the Obama Coup, and this tells you why Tulsi Gabbard is such a central part now. She's the one President Trump has designated to go down to Georgia. She's not down Georgia for her health. She's down in Georgia for a reason, because the railhead of this continues in the stolen 2020 election. Tulsi Gabbard's also vitally important because of her really being the dissenting voice on what we now know. The New York Times, for instance, story. Oh, yeah, we all knew that the Israeli intelligence was. Well, hang on to the time. Tulsi Gabbard was the only dissenting voice. Not the CIA, not Marco, not J.D. none of them. She was the dissenting voice and brought the facts. Drew Thomas Allen. Here's what I'm confused about. Given that you make the case for it and it's laid out, it's not your opinion. You're laying out the facts in the documents. Why have we had no justice in this? We are now at the end of the first quarter of the second year of President Trump's second terms, and we're burning daylight. Why has the Justice Department. Are you telling me that what's happening down and by the way John Solomon's gonna be on starting Monday and he's got some big revelations. But this audience has been with President Trump from the beginning and fought through this in 15 and 16 and 17 and 18 are wondering if these facts are so definitive, why in the hell has no one really done a perp walk? John Strand spent a year in prison and four months in a hellhole solitary confinement. Why has no one, no one been even charged in this situation, sir?

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yeah, a few reasons. I mean the first is that the deep state is as powerful as people maybe have come to understand since Trump brought attention to it starting in 2016. There were efforts sort of, I mean they weren't really efforts. I mean like if you look at the investigations into Trump Russia collusion, whether it's Durham or Horowitz, those weren't sincere investigations. They, these are the very people who kept this Russian intel info, for example, declassified so that we couldn't get the full story. So even the so called good guys who were supposed to look into this and get to the bottom of it, they were helping cover it up as well. And I think there's a fear factor unfortunately. I think that just like BLM or violence from the left, we see how unhinged they are. I think there's some sort of fear factor over there because these people are unmoored from morality completely. And so you know, a lot of unfortunately I think well intentioned people make their decisions based on.

[Steve Bannon]

But, but hang on, but hang on. But you, you, you agree given your research, you agree given you're tying all the pieces together, cause there's been other books out there, but you've got the latest declassified information from Tulsi Gavert. Is there any doubt in your mind that we need a, we need a major set of tribunals to try put these people on trial, try them and put them in prison, remove them from and put them in prison?

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yes, they have to be. I mean that's one of the big arguments of the book in the end, which is the reason we're in the dire situation we're in now, which is actually just as dangerous, if not more dangerous than a few years ago, is that there's been no accountability and you're seeing an attempted effort now, a second effort to go after the former FBI director James Comey. But that's not enough. I mean you're talking about hundreds of people involved in this. And of course it goes to the very top, top with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. And I mean the American people obviously certainly Maga are sick and tired of seeing none of these people held accountable. And they get more vicious and they get more desperate. You know, the longer these crimes against the country go on. You could go into Covid, you could go into a number of things. There's never any accountability for these people whatsoever. And obviously someone like John Strand goes to prison for, you know, walking around the capitol building. And these people committed a soft coup against this nation and they're walking free.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yeah, look, I mean, all the deep state and all these people are waiting in the wings to come back and get revenge, obviously. And you see this combination of desperation, but also they're emboldened because there's been no accountability. So they want to get back to being in power. And look, I mean, you got go back to Benghazi, to the stolen election of 2020, Trump, Russia, collusion. You fast forward to the unprecedented lawfare of 2024. I mean, every one of those is an escalation by them. And so we've got temporary power right now, but they haven't stopped, and they're hungry to continue. So I think we're in a more dangerous position now than we were even a few years ago.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, real quickly, you wrote a really great book on Charlie Kirk and Christianity. John Strand is just sitting here a minute ago saying, hey, after a year in prison, he says Christian men got to step up here and take this country back. Was Charlie Kirk. Was he a. Was he a profile encouraged for that, sir?

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Oh, absolutely. I mean, his death absolutely changed my life. That's why I wrote the book. I mean, it's called For Christ and Country, the Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. But it's a personal testimony. And really, the big thing for me in all of this is that, you know, John Strand was talking about Christian. The need for Christians to stand up. You know, everybody needs to become their own version of Charlie Kirk. And Charlie Kirk was unique because he sought out debate and he had conviction. That conviction came from his Christian faith. It didn't come from anywhere else. So people who were scared out there, scared to speak out. That's because you're not putting your faith first and you're fearing the condemnation of man more than that of God. And so, you know, this book, especially though, Stephen, as we talk about conspiracy theories and whatnot related surrounding Charlie Kirk's death, you know, we had. We had a big missed opportunity because we know the left is violence, and we know that the transgender community in particular is kind of the tip of the spear that. And this was an opportunity. I hate to use that word, but to kind of finish off the left by showing the world who they were. And instead, we didn't take that opportunity. We've been inviting

[Steve Bannon]

Drew. Where do people go? You got a podcast. You're putting up a great content. You're on social media. You got your books. Where do folks go?

[Drew Thomas Allen]

Yep. You can subscribe to my substack, drew allen.substack.com on x and social media. It's at Drew Thomas Allen. And then, yeah, I recently joined the Daily Signals, is a commentator over there where the great Victor Davis Hansen is as well. So that. That covers the game.

[Steve Bannon]

Rob Bluey's Daily Signal is one of the best. Great that you're over there. Thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back. Everybody, go get the book on the coup. It'll inform you of the work we got ahead of. He's 100% right. If we lose the midterms and somehow we don't win in 2028, trust me, they're going to come looking for people to send them to prison, because these people are demonstration taste. Gill, you got involved in this being a Navy SEAL and having so many of your buddies and comrades and brothers in arms. It was about Benghazi that actually got. It was Hillary Clinton and Benghazi that got you actually kind of from just being a warrior and a gunfighter to actually kind of getting into a political movement, eventually launching your coffee company. Tell me about that for a second.

[Taj]

Yeah, we got into the. The T shirt game in 2016 when Hillary Clinton was running for president against Trump. I wanted to bring out awareness about what happened in Benghazi. So we created T shirts. They said, Hillary Clinton, kill my friends. And it. It just took off like wildfire. You know, back then, you had the. The XM radio podcast. I went on your podcast with Breitbart. I went on Fox and Friends and a bunch of other platforms, and it just started blowing up. I just did it for, like, a fun thing and to raise awareness about Benghazi, and it turned into a really good T shirt company. We used to sell tons of shirts at the. At the height, we're selling up to 30,000 shirts a month. And then we got banned in 2020 for posting the voter election fraud graph in Wisconsin. Facebook and Google and everybody suspended all our advertising accounts, and that killed that company. And then I figured I'd make the pivot to coffee. And I've been keeping the coffee pretty much out of politics. You know, I have my political views, but I don't. I don't involve it in the company. And now we are selling the Best coffee out there. Our coffee is incredible. We have almost 18,000 five star reviews on our website. Plus we have, you know, reviews on Amazon and other platforms. But the, the coffee is incredible. People love it. The way we roast it is very unique. We roast it on perforated drum. We don't burn the beans at all. And it is just an incredible product. There's no gimmicks.

[Steve Bannon]

It's.

[Taj]

It's incredible.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, no. You came to this we the other day in the press conference you had General Kane talking about how many cigarettes, how much energy drinks. But he said, I don't know, a million gallons of coffee. And you and I came from the fact of. Yes, and it all sucked, right. It's just burnt mid watch brew. You set your, set your company up to be. Hey, if we can have the best equipment in the world for the seals and our commandos and special forces, right, we can have you can you. You don't have to serve them. You don't have to serve them. You know, deep burned coffee on the midwatch. That's what warpath coffee is. Talk to me about. I got about a minute here, but I want to know you're actually in stores now. I want to have you on here today to talk about you're actually getting in stores so just not online. Where can people get it in stores right now?

[Taj]

We can, you can get it in Shields in Salt Lake City. On Monday or Tuesday we should be in Shields in Meridian. Boise, Meridian area. And then we're also in a optics planet. It's an online gun store. We're in there. And then we have a wholesale program through the back end of the website and there's a couple other like smaller gift shops and stores that sell it. I don't, I don't know exactly the names of all of them, but we're in a few small ones. And then we're in, we're in Shields. We're working on getting BJ's wholesales. And then right now like you said, we wanted the best, best coffee, like we had the best equipment. We're actually formulating ready to drink coffee that'll be in cans like a Red Bull sized can. And we're working through that right now. We're, we're on about I think round seven of samples because like, like you said, I want it to be the best. I want it to taste amazing. When somebody drinks it, I want them to be like, yeah, I want to go back and drink this again. Like drink it every day. So we got a lot of stuff on the roadmap. And like right now we're in Shields, optics, planet and online. We're also on Amazon, so it's. It's just slowly expanding one inch at a time,

[Steve Bannon]

real quickly. Where do people go right now to go read the reviews, see about the coffee online? Where they go, sir?

[Taj]

Warpath coffee. And as always, use promo code War room. I just raised it up to 20% off, so this weekend it'll be 20% off with promo code War room. Warpath coffee, promo code War room. If you haven't tried it, try it.

[Steve Bannon]

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