Episode 5340: Redistricting Spreads Across The US; May Day And Continued Rise Of Marxism In America

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room Episode 5340 Summary:

“Redistricting Spreads Across the US; May Day and the Continued Rise of Marxism in America”

Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Chris (legal and political analyst), Alicia (policy expert), Alex DeGrasse (GOP strategist), Jack Posobiec (author), Dr. Bradley Thayer (historian/author)

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Episode Overview

This episode covers two major themes:

• The accelerating battle over redistricting and gerrymandering, especially in Republican-led Southern states, following intervention by the Supreme Court.
• The cultural and political significance of May Day, exploring the history of Marxism, neo-Marxist tactics, and their perceived infusion into present-day American institutions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Redistricting Wars: GOP Aggression and Legal Battles

[00:00 – 18:27]

• Florida’s Rapid Redistricting:

  • Bannon attributes the renewed redistricting push to Donald Trump, designed to cement a GOP Congressional majority and “insulate it from the voters.”
  • The Florida legislature passed aggressive new maps in a single day, carving out more GOP districts and sparking immediate legal challenges.

    “Republicans are once again rigging things at lightning speed with no input from voters.” – Stephen K. Bannon [00:44]

• GOP Motives & Fallout:

  • Chris argues Ron DeSantis is acting to please Trump, risking political backlash. The GOP’s action directly violates a Florida constitutional ban on partisan gerrymandering.
  • Alicia calls for Democrats to respond with equivalently strong legislative action, warning against rhetorical gestures and urging a “programmatic response at scale.”

    “If we’re telling a story that’s true…Democrats need to put forward a response that is at scale to what we are experiencing.” – Alicia [02:51]

• Louisiana’s Unprecedented Move:

  • Republican Governor Jeff Landry declared a state of emergency to suspend active primary elections, aiming to redraw the maps. Multiple lawsuits filed.

    “The governor has declared a state of emergency to cancel…an ongoing election. That he does not like the direction in which it’s going.” – Chris [04:05]

• Broader Southern GOP Strategy:

  • The show details similar redistricting plans underway or pending in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, and others.
  • Alex DeGrasse describes a “maximalist” GOP approach, pushing for the greatest number of Republican seats possible—with explicit pressure on Republican holdouts in various state legislatures.

    “This thing is going to be some of the toughest, bare knuckle legal fights…The only thing that can stop us is ourselves.” – Alex DeGrasse [06:00, 05:54]

• Legal & Political Calculus:

  • The panel repeatedly makes the case that Democrats have “gerrymandered for decades,” especially in blue states with “phony commissions,” and that today’s Republican strategy is both overdue and justified.

    “Why are we not maximalist? Why are we not getting 6-0? Why is it not automatic 6-0 in Louisiana?” – Steve [10:30] “We haven't necessarily gerrymandered as much as they have…studies have shown that to be the case.” – Alex DeGrasse [06:07]

Notable Moments:

• Chris breaking news on pending litigation:

  “There will be more litigation coming in the near future.” [03:58]

• On the Democrat response, Alicia’s challenge:

  “Being honest about what we’re encountering instead of…rhetorical gestures.” [03:12]

Important Timestamps:

• [00:00–02:50] — Bannon, Chris, and Alicia on Florida & national GOP strategy
• [03:21–05:03] — Louisiana’s emergency, risk of setting national precedent
• [05:14–11:37] — Alex DeGrasse outlines the GOP’s legal and political maneuvering in the South
• [12:54–14:39] — Focus on Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina; “naming names” strategy

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2. May Day: Marxism, Neo-Marxist Tactics, and the Cultural Front

[18:27 – 53:30]

• May Day Exposé:

  • Jack Posobiec frames May 1st as “the high holy day of Bolshevism,” linking modern general strike calls to historic leftist uprisings.

    “This is the day that harkens back to the earliest agitators…They focused on cities…call a general strike…rile up the masses.” – Jack Posobiec [19:45]

  • Bannon connects today’s left-wing activism to Bolshevik agitation and warns of a radicalized minority using organizational skill and agitation to change society, out of proportion to actual public support.

    “You don’t need a majority to start. In fact, you need a very small, hardened minority.” – Steve [22:05]

• Neo-Marxist Influence in US Institutions:

  • Dr. Bradley Thayer and Jack Posobiec assert that a “privatized Comintern” (comparing the old Communist International to today’s activist billionaires, e.g. Soros, Jobs’ widow) is driving a Marxist revolution via education, culture, and media.

    “These are very small numbers of individuals, but they’re focused, they’re driven, they know what they want.” – Dr. Thayer [25:48]

• Tactics: Agitation, Seizing the 'Ideas Industry'

  • Thayer credits Lenin’s “agitation, propaganda, and organization.” He argues the educational system, media, law schools, and social organizations are being systematically infiltrated, radicalizing a generation.

    “They have to cloak their odious ideas in terminology that would be familiar and attractive...They’re experts at political warfare.” – Dr. Thayer [24:47]

• American Middle Class (“Kulaks”) as Target:

  • Bannon and Posobiec compare the Soviet campaign against the “kulaks” (prosperous peasants) to what they see as the targeting of small business owners, church organizers, and the patriotic middle class by today’s left.

    “It means the middle class. It was what the middle class, they became…they kept their houses nicer, people in the community respected them…and their number one focus was always, 'We got to get the kulaks.'” – Steve [33:16, 34:15] “If you are an impediment to their revolution…you must be removed.” – Jack Posobiec [30:38]

• 21st-Century 'Revolutionary' Tactics:

  • Guests warn that neo-Marxists are adding race, gender, and sexuality to the traditional class war, keeping their coalition energized and radical.

    “They’ve added…race, gender, sexuality…This is why they are so radical about the transgender ideology. It’s central to how they organize.” – Steve [36:36]

Notable Quotes & Moments:

• “The killing is the point. The brutality is the point. The anger is the point. That's what they want.” – Jack Posobiec [38:53]
• “At the heart of it, it’s atheistic and it’s…demonic.” – Steve [38:57]
• “Whether we call them Bolsheviks or neo-Bolshevik progressives today, those are the mechanisms they’re using to advance their revolution.” – Dr. Thayer [27:00]

Important Timestamps:

• [19:45–24:47] — Jack Posobiec and Dr. Thayer discuss the historical roots and tactics of Marxist movements.
• [30:03–34:33] — The “kulak” analogy; targeting the American middle class and civil society.
• [36:36–39:05] — The extension of Marxist tactics to identity politics and culture war issues.

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3. Neo-Marxism in Education, Media, and Culture

[45:37 – 53:30]

• Radicalizing Young Americans:

  • Dr. Thayer asserts leftists systematically captured the “ideas industry”—education, media, entertainment—which allows them to radicalize K-12 and university students into neo-Marxist ideology.

    “You can’t go to university, you can’t go through K–12…without being indoctrinated by neo-Bolsheviks.” – Dr. Thayer [46:26]

  • The “privatized Comintern” (Soros, Jobs/Emerson Collective, etc.) funds front organizations and utilizes “united front” tactics to erode unity—e.g., religion, family, nation.

• Destroying Western Civilizational Foundations:

  • The Bolshevik strategy is outlined: destroy that which unites society to make way for eventual power seizure.

Notable Quotes:

• “They generated Communist parties. But they also recognized they needed to create and fund front organization using what they called united front tactics…” – Dr. Thayer [47:50]
• “A Neo Comintern, a privatized Comintern, that’s run by George Soros and his son.” – Dr. Thayer [47:41]

Key Timestamps:

• [45:37–47:50] — The educational system, media, and privatized Comintern funding.

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Memorable Quotes (with Speaker & Timestamps)

• Bannon [00:00]: “Donald Trump kicked off this redistricting war a year ago. It was all him in an attempt to fortify a Republican majority in Congress…”
• Chris [01:12]: “Ron DeSantis is sucking up to Donald Trump. This may very well backfire on Republicans.”
• Alicia [02:51]: “Democrats need to put forward an agenda, a program, a response that is at scale to what we are experiencing.”
• Alex DeGrasse [06:00]: “This thing is going to be some of the most toughest, bare knuckle legal fights…”
• Jack Posobiec [19:45]: “This is the high holy day of Bolshevism…This is the day that harkens back to the earliest agitators…call a general strike…rile up the masses.”
• Dr. Thayer [24:47]: “They can’t win popular support, so they have to cloak their odious ideas and terminology that would be familiar and attractive to folks. These guys are experts at political warfare.”
• Jack Posobiec [38:53]: “They don’t actually care about equality…The killing is the point. The brutality is the point. The anger is the point. That’s what they want. It’s envy. It is resentment.”

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Actionable Takeaways & Calls to Action

• For Republican Listeners:

  • Bannon and guests urge direct pressure on state and local officials to pursue “maximalist” GOP gains in redistricting.

    “You’ve got to move hard on these people…apply pressure at the county committee level, at the local level.” – Alex DeGrasse [08:36]

• For WarRoom Audience:

  • Stay tuned to Twitter feeds (@AlexDeGrasse81 & @CarolineWren).
  • Call out and expose what the panel labels as “neo-Marxist” takeover of institutions and participate in local resistance, especially in education and political organizing.

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Relevant Segments (by Timestamp)

• Redistricting & Legal Strategy Deep Dive: [00:00 – 18:27]
• May Day Segment: Marxist History & Modern Parallels: [18:27 – 39:05]
• Targeting the American Middle Class (“kulaks”): [30:03 – 34:33]
• Modern Indoctrination via Schools & Cultural Institutions: [45:37 – 53:30]
• Audience Calls to Action: [14:39, 17:43, 42:02]

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Episode Tone

• Combative and urgent, positioning the GOP as under existential threat.
• Apocalyptic framing of leftist tactics: “neo-Bolshevism,” “demonic,” “the killing is the point.”
• Mix of historical analysis, legal strategy, and cultural commentary using similar rhetoric: “bare knuckle,” “full frontal,” “war room posse…the tip of the spear.”

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In Summary

Episode 5340 of War Room is a high-intensity update on Republican-led redistricting efforts and the broader culture war, tying today’s progressive activism to a multigenerational Marxist project. Bannon and his guests articulate a maximalist strategy for GOP legal and grassroots action, warn of internal and external threats in the language of revolution, and frame May Day’s leftist activism as a battle for the soul of America.

“We are so far from killing [neo-Marxist ideology] because it’s central to their ideology and central to how they organize.” — Stephen K. Bannon [36:36]

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For continued coverage and real-time updates on redistricting legal battles and culture war flashpoints, listeners are directed to follow the recommended Twitter feeds and tune in to upcoming War Room episodes.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Donald Trump kicked off this redistricting war a year ago. It was all him in an attempt to fortify a Republican majority in Congress to kind of insulate it from the voters. And then Democrats responded by asking voters in California and Virginia to bring things back to par. Basically, literally just return to an even playing field so that neither party had an advantage. And now, of course, because Republicans cannot tolerate an even playing field, the Trump Supreme Court just helped start a new, even more egregious round of gerrymandering. Republicans are once again rigging things at lightning speed with no input from voters. So just yesterday, the Florida legislature in one day passed new maps that carve up Democratic districts to create up to four new Republican seats. We're now waiting on Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, where Republicans have all indicated their desires to seize more power for their party. The current map and the proposed map, you can see the proposed map gets much redder. Nothing is guaranteed. The voters still get a say. But here's my question. There was reticence from Florida to do this for a long time, even though they have a trifecta and they've got super majorities. So why did they turn on a dime and do it in one day?

[Chris]

Because Ron DeSantis is sucking up to Donald Trump. I mean, the fact is, this may very well backfire on Republicans. I don't think there's a member of the House conference from Florida that wanted this. You know, they're settled with a, with an unpopular president. They see what the special elections and the off year elections have brought. And so this may wind up backfiring on them. But for Ron DeSantis standpoint, what he is doing is saying, okay, Donald Trump, you want us to gerrymander, you want us to be extreme, you want us to disenfranchise minority voters. We can do it all like that. And by the way, Chris, it's in direct violation, direct violation of a state constitutional provision that bans partisan gerrymandering. I mean, it was put in the Constitution by the people of Florida as a ballot measure. Republicans, after it was put in, tried to cheat in after the 2010 cycle census. I sued, we won, we got a redraw, now we're back, they're doing it again, and we're going to sue again.

[Alicia]

Absolutely right in this regard. So there are these moments that are explicit about the agenda that is being pursued here, Alicia. But you know, as you were talking, I guess I kept thinking about what the Democrat, how we ought to respond to this, Right? And I kept Thinking about, you know, people were telling the Democrats, expecting the Democrats to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement act to deal with the gutting of the Voting Rights act with regards to pre clearance anticipation of Section 2. But people were hiding behind Joe Manchin. It wasn't just Joe Manchin blocking it. There were some other Democrats behind it.

[Alex]

Black.

[Alicia]

So part of what I'm suggesting, if we're telling, if we're telling a story that's true, it seems to me that the Democrats need to put forward an agenda, a program, a response, a programmatic response that is at scale to what we are experiencing. And that's going to require naming what you've just laid out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right.

[Alicia]

And being honest about what we're, what we're encountering instead of, shall we say, rhetorical gestures.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now, I want to move to Louisiana where something really crazy happened today. They are already voting in Louisiana. Okay. They have already started early voting for the primaries in that state for their congressional districts. The governor, Republican Governor Landry. Jeff Landry, declared a state of emergency today. The emergency. Unclear what the emergency is. There's not a hurricane to stop the primary elections and hereby suspend them so they can draw another map. We have word that two voters have already sued against that. What do you make of what's happening in Louisiana?

[Chris]

Yeah, first of all, that won't be the last lawsuit. I'll just announce first on this program. There will be more litigation coming in the near future. But look, I think that we need to understand this as both a redistricting story, but also as a democracy story. The reducing story is very clear, which is that the state of Louisiana is trying to cancel these elections so that they can gerrymander and describe and disenfranchise black voters. But the larger democracy story, Chris, and I think you got it exactly right, is the governor has declared a state of emergency to cancel, to suspend an ongoing election. Yeah. That he does not like the direction in which it's going. Now. I wonder, Chris, when we get to next November, when we get to the general election, whether or not we will have, for example, a president, United States, who will think he can do this. And if, if we do not sort of put a stake in the ground now and say that you do not get to declare an emergency and suspend voting and sort of restart things because you don't like how things are going. If we don't do that now, it's not going to make it easier for us to do it in November.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah. If you look, I mean, there's hardball and then there's like, authoritarianism and there is a line between them. It's like if you, you know, for instance, like, you know, what, what they, you know.

[Steve]

Thank you, Denver. No, we can do it now. We are doing it now because it's unconstitutional. You guys have rigged this thing with this phony Voting Rights act for decade after decade after decade after decade, and people are too gutless to challenge it. In the south, it got challenged and it cratered. Six, three. This was not close. And Alito buried you. Alex degrasse, let's go around the horn. First off, what's your response to their general. And they are in meltdown like I have not seen. Because they understand they cannot stop. The only thing that can stop us is ourselves. There's nothing they can do, folks. Go ahead, Alex.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's right, Steve. I think, like, obviously they're in total freefall because I think if you look at the map and where seats will be able to shift, because this is super important for the posse and those out there conversing with folks is, you know, they have, they have been gerrymandering for decades, not only just through taking advantage of the voting rights section of the Voting Rights act, but also obviously in all of these blue states. So we have way more seats that Republican states can pick up because not just of the VRA issue, but of just the fact that we haven't necessarily gerrymandered as much as they have. I mean, that's just an objective fact. I mean, studies have shown that to be the case. You look at, obviously New England, you look at California even before Steve. So I think it's important to really back up and look, okay, 20, 20, 2022, we were on the show, we were hammering states were redistricting through the normal process. And one of the real ways the Democrats obviously rigged this thing in some of these blue states is they've got these phony commissions, Steve. And we talk about them. And I used to be in the room. I was in leadership, Steve. Remember those days? You know, many people on our side said, hey, look, commission's better than the state legislator. We take what we can get, blah, blah, blah. We move on and say, see, these commissions totally gut. The whole thing is rigged. You look at New Jersey, you look at New York, you look at obviously in California where they had a commission. Again, this is important. The original California map was even more gerrymandered based off vote share than the quote unquote, gerrymandered current Texas map. Okay? Before Newsom jammed this thing through. So these guys are total frauds. You know, Obama obviously one day is pushing for the gerrymander in Virginia, the next day he's having a meltdown on racial matters. All of this is coordinated. All of this is coming from the top of the most powerful rings of the Democrat Party because they see this as a grave threat to their power base because this whole thing is collapsing on the basis of the Constitution. You look at Kagan's response, 60 pages, 30 of it is just you spew opinion. It's really important. A very smart lawyer just mentioned that obviously they had been slow walking this thing, which, you know, worm, I think it broke the news on that, which is clear just on service. If you read her response, which has nothing to do with anything. Right. They're just wasting time. And so that's what this, that's the moment we're at now, Steve, where you've got, you know, they've gone to the Supreme Court, which we need the Supreme Court to clear the decks now immediately. That's something that needs to happen. Push it back to the states so that states can move through so this thing doesn't get held up, so that other states following Louisiana can move this thing through. Because it's going to be a fight for inches and a fight for every, you know, really like centimeter. I mean this thing is going to be some of the most toughest, bare knuckle legal fights. Something that we've been talking about frankly for years, working towards this, Steve, and it's going to be exciting. But what we need and what I love hearing from folks is obviously the posse is up in arms. You've got grassroots moving hard on this. I know people are feeling pressure. That's what people are talking about in D.C. on our side that some of these guys. You look at K Ivey, she looks like she's flipped. We need South Carolina. I just was reading and talking to folks preparing for the show that I think the House leader. Let me get this guy's name so we can name him House Majority Leader Davey. He could be pronounced. I've never heard of this guy, but apparently he's come out and said, no, we're not going to do it this time. We can't do it. So we have to name names. You've got to move hard on these people, you know, peacefully educate them, make sure to call and apply pressure at the county committee level, at the local level. And really we need to make clear that we're not going to stand for any half measures at this moment. When you look at what the stakes are in this election, Steve.

[Steve]

Exactly. Let's talk about Louisiana as a perfect example. And I was kind of shocked. I guess they were more ready than most. Some, like Georgia, seemed like they're not ready at all. And I want to give a hat tip to Governor DeSantis. And I think they beat. I believe Mark Elias lost in court last night. He's going to throw lawsuits everywhere. Let's talk about Louisiana. What's our status there?

[Alex]

Yeah, so they've sued since the election was ongoing, and it's gone in front of the Supreme Court. And that's what I'm talking about in terms of we need, obviously, for the Supreme Court to clear the deck so this thing can move forward. We think the case is on great, you know, sound footing and there's nothing to worry about there. But, you know, everything that we do, they'll respond with losses. Just like you mentioned Florida, you know, they tried to sue in the Northern District. They got defeated by the attorney general in Florida. And so now it's up to the attorney general in Louisiana to obviously defend this soon. We're hoping of it. Supreme Court moves quickly so that this stuff can progress. But in the short term, obviously the House elections, not the Senate election, this is really important for those watching because you've got the Cassidy election. President Trump's endorsed Julia Letlow, who were all behind, and you know, that election's still ongoing on May 16, and the House elections have been moved. So that's really important. So people understand that's a super important.

[Steve]

That's what they call the state of emergency, to delay until some future time, until they get the maps drawn. The question there in the audience, not the Senate. No, the House. Exactly. The Senate's gonna go down on 16 May, but the primary for the House has been delayed because they called a state of emergency. Are we going to get a 6, 0 instead of a 5 1? I mean, why are we having these fights to take half measures? I don't understand. They have a maximalist strategy. New England's, where you're from, is 24 to 0. Why are we not maximalist? Why are we not getting 6, 0? Why is it not automatic 6, 0 in Louisiana?

[Alex]

Yeah, I'm not going to make excuses, but what I've heard from folks on the ground tied in with the effort is they feel very good legally, that they've got the strongest case to move forward. Five 1. Of course we want 6. Of course we want every state to move forward in any capacity. But you Know, that's what I'm hearing on the ground. I'm not saying I support it, but you know, they're looking for, you know, I think that they've been good actors on the ground. They're the ones that actually drove this ship, Steve, and fought when no other states would fight on this took a lot of courage.

[Steve]

Mississippi, Mississippi. The governor is ahead of things, although I think they may even have their primary. He's what is the governor of Mississippi said he's going to come out and do something that Mississippi should be for. Not three, one.

[Alex]

Yeah. He's calling a state legislative session in late May. If we go to Alabama, you've got obviously Barry Morris calling. I'm gonna start naming names. Right. So you've got Rhett Barry Morris.

[Steve]

Well, and that you had that. You had that. You had the 90 year old governor. Right. She was the first yammering on about it got to be 20, 30. Somebody got to her and got her mind. Right? Correct. Didn't she come out, Didn't Ivy Governor Ivey come out last night after Tuberville and people were hammering her.

[Alex]

Yeah, I mean the grassroots is hammer. It sounds like she's flipping, which is a huge development because obviously this is important because we covered on the show. But you know, it's a redraw of a court imposed map. Right. So they actually were forced to actually add the second majority African American district post Allen Milligan. So they've got actually very clear president obviously now with the Supreme Court ruling to obviously throw that out very easily actually. So the word is that she flips. So we'll have to keep an eye on that. You've got Georgia, which is a disaster. Obviously our guy, Lieutenant Governor Burt Jones, pretty much all the candidates are calling for a special session this year. But you know, thanks to the governor and some other of these rhinos that they're declaring that they're not going to do it.

[Steve]

Well, it's particularly Kemp. Kemp hates Trump. We could take Fulton county back. This is, this is that district in Fulton county. One of, one of a couple. This is why Kemp is a Trump hater. This is why Ossoff could win that. Remember, Ossoff is coming up for reelection. Ossoff is I think four or five points up because the Kemp forces are suppressing MAGA in Georgia. And this is what you get. He just said last night, nah, I don't know. We'll deal with it sometime at 27. Correct. I mean he's already just told us

[Alex]

he said hard stop. No, not for this election. But we're gonna look at it obviously for 30. That's a, you know, 20.

[Steve]

President Trump, you caught. You called Bill Lee last night. I'd get, I'd get the hotline going to Kemp right now. Talk to me about South Carolina. That's a huge one. What's McMaster's doing? He's Trump's guy.

[Alex]

Yeah. So McMaster, they're calling a session. I think their issues now are in the state legislature. I mentioned that name, House Majority Leader Davey. He could be pronouncing that wrong. Never heard of this guy. He has said the state will not redistrict. He's gone out on a limb, which is crazy. I've heard McMasters moving, obviously, Caroline runs all over it. James Blair, the White House. This is a full frontal as well with the posse. Trying to see what we can move there, but that's big. Obviously, you know, you've got the 6th district there, Clyburn, which, you know, you can easily draw it very cleanly. I've looked at the map. So, you know, there's that. And then obviously Tennessee, we mentioned you've got Blackburn now. President spoke. You've got The Memphis based Tennessee 9 district, which is the sole get rid of Cohen. And so you know the primary is in August, obviously, so there's a pathway because you've got time there legally. So.

[Steve]

Hang on one second. I know you gotta. I know you get a bouncer, it's gonna hold you through a short break and just keep you for a minute or two on the other side. I want to sum this up for working instructions for the war room. Posse has been the tip of the spear on this. It's redistricting wars on a Friday morning short break.

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[Steve]

War Room.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

[Steve]

Alex, I know you got a bounce. Missouri in Ohio. Are those the two remaining? Yeah.

[Alex]

So obviously we picked up one to two in Ohio and they're going to have to, you know, look at if they've got to do a redraw in Missouri, obviously with we've talked about it, picked up one we wanted to certainly there's one on an additional one on the table there. They're locked in a lawsuit and a referendum that's disputed over that one seat. So it's very contentious on a legal front. So folks have to just kind of stay on. That's following now with the, with the VRA ruling, I think there's a lot of room for people to redo, draw further. So that's where the debate is right now. But Ren and I have got the latest updates. Caroline's hammering this thing like a maniac. It's unbelievable. Of course, Steve, she's at the forefront, obviously. Got to give credit to the White House. You know, they engineered She's a maniac. And they're out there on a limb. You know, you got the Indiana primary coming up. That's super important for people to lock in on. You've got obviously Louisiana Senate coming up. So there's a lot of activity and we're really sort of in the crunch time. So it's time to get after it, focus in, I think on South Carolina, making sure we get Alabama through. Those are really the two speaker of

[Steve]

the House of South Carolina, give them a call today and say, hey, look, get your mind right here, brother. This is unconstitutional. We've been fighting this one for decades. Alex, I want people to go to your Twitter feed and what's Caroline's Twitter feed? Those are the two information sources. That's the hub of the action. And in fact, Mark Elias, his big mouth running last night. He got beaten last night in northern Florida, correct?

[Alex]

Yeah, that's exactly right. He tried to obviously stop Florida, so that's now totally toast. I'm sure they'll appeal it, but we feel like that's going great. So you're at Caroline Wren for Carolina met the grass 81. So we'll be posting updates. We'll try to get some more folks on the show, but I think those are the two states to focus on. We'll continue to have updates. Thanks, Steven. Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're gonna see.

[Steve]

We're gonna update this afternoon and tomorrow morning, the Saturday show. Alex, go back to work. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you stepping out and doing this, Mark Elias. I do admire Marcos. He's a fighter. Total scumbag, but. He's a fighter, but got beaten last night, Mark. Suck on that. We're on a roll, but it's 13 seats. I think we got 13 we can pick up in this DEI VRA gerrymandering that's crashing around the Democrats. It's amazing. They weren't prepared for this thing. Okay. I hadn't even brought the show in yet. It's Friday, the 1st of May, in the year of our Lord 2026. What does that mean, the 1st of May? That means it's May Day. I've got two experts. Jack Posobic, who wrote a blockbuster New York Times bestseller called on humans, and Dr. Bradley Thayer, who's dedicated his life to the study of this, of Marxism and communism versus the West. And Dr. Thayer's got a book coming out later this summer. Let's go ahead and play. Let's play the music for Mayday. We don't have it. Okay, I'll go right to okay. I don't want the march. I want the music. Let's go to Jack. We'll get the music later. We're get this all artistically perfect. Jack Posobic on Humans. Why is one May. Why is May Day the big day of the Marxists and the Communists?

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, Steve. This is the high holy day of Bolshevism. Both back to 1917 in Petrograd, as they like to call it back then, or all the way today with the neo Bolsheviks of Mondami in New York City. This is the day that harkens back to the earliest agitators during the time of the Russian Empire, when they were killing czars, when they were working to get the people in the street, because they would say, call a general strike. And the reason they went for a general strike is they would say, this is how we can rile up the masses. They focused on cities particularly. They were, you know, obviously started St. Petersburg, Petrograd, when it was called back then. And this is the day that reminds them of how they constantly fight for power and control, cause chaos, destabilize the system, make all sorts of promises. But what does it always turn into? Well, for the Soviets, it turned into 70 years of oppression, the murder of millions of Christians, including. Including Christian children, secret police, the Gulags, all the rest of it, and of course, the mountains upon mountains of corpses by government policy. And again, keep in mind, this was something they did to their own people. That's what Mayday is all about.

[Steve]

I want people to keep in mind. And the reason we're doing this. There's been a call for a general strike today in the United States of America from the Mondami forces and from these folks that we were trying to turf out of Minneapolis, these lovely people. And it's interesting, the Morning Joes and all these Democrats are trying to hide that aspect of their party, which is really. About 80% of their foot soldiers have no mention of this today. They want high schools out. When you're in high school, all the formation you get is about hating America, hating American patriotism. Teaching you, Howard Zinn, how people have been oppressed for thousands and thousands of years. I want to make sure, Jack, that people understand this. When you talk about the Bolsheviks and you talk about the Marxists, in every one of these societies, they start with a very small group of people. I don't think the Bolsheviks ever had more than like 15 to 20% max support, particularly I think, even in the Duma when they heard elections, they never really had broad popular support. What their strategy was, if they force the action, people were first off. The aristocracy were created. Because the aristocracy back then was the equivalent of the rhinos today, that they will collapse. They will not be able to stand up to us, and then everybody else will collapse around that. And so that's why they celebrate this day, because this is one of their, you know, I know they got the October date that they do when they kicked off the revolution, but this is their kind of international. How they spread it. You don't need a majority to start. In fact, you need a very small, hardened minority. Sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, that's exactly right. And even before the Russian Bolsheviks were doing this, you saw this in Chicago in the 1800s, 1880s, with the Haymarket affair, which turned into a bombing. They were killing police officers. They had the. They had the unions out in the streets back then. This was during the rise of the Industrial Revolution, and they were using that as a way to foment the masses. But, Steve, there's actually a. I'll Tell you, there's actually a video I did that, you know, it was when we were promoting the release of Unhumans, the anti communism book. And it was an interview with me and Charlie Kirk. And Charlie asked me that very question. He said, jack, what was the size of the Russian Revolution or the Russian Empire? What was the size of the Russian Empire? And I said, well, it's Russia, Charlie. It's like 100 million people at least. Giant empire. And they said, and what was the size of the Bolsheviks? And I said, well, at one point it was probably. Probably about a thousand people, you know, not that many. He said, right. How could such a large country be taken over by so few of a hardened group of people? And I said, charlie, they didn't take it seriously. They didn't take it seriously. The violence, the brutality, the complete stripping of all morality, the slaughter that they were willing to commit in the streets to politicians, to leaders, to types of folks that might go to the White House correspondents dinner, by the way, that they were willing to throw all the rules out the window in their lust for power. Raw, naked power. And the Russians, they didn't fight back until it was way too late.

[Steve]

You talk about language, Dr. Thayer. You see this all the time on MSNBC. Democracy, democracy, democracy. The Bolsheviks used to talk about democracy a lot, particularly at the beginning. They are the proverbial wolves in sheep's clothing, are they not?

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Yeah, of course, Steve. It's how they mask themselves. They can't win popular support, so they have to cloak their odious ideas and terminology that would be familiar and would be attractive to folks. Look, these guys are experts at political warfare. They're geniuses at it. And Lenin in particular was a genius, right? If he. And one person who was responsible for this is Vladimir Lenin. And the tactics that we see today with the school strikes or teachers calling in sick or taking personal days or the worker strikes can all be traced back to tactics that they devise and implemented. Again, they were experts at political warfare, so they recognize the importance of the ideas industry, right? The educational system, universities, K through 12 media, the law schools, all of it needed to be seized, the commanding heights of the ideas industry, so that they could bring about their revolution. And Jack's exactly right. These are very small numbers of individuals, but they're focused, they're driven, they know what they want, and they're bringing it about through the three tools that Lenin recognized and explicitly advanced, which was agitation, propaganda and organization. Right? Supreme organization, always twinned with terror and violence. Right? So those are the tools that the Leninists are using, whether we call them Bolsheviks, of course, or neo Bolshevik progressives today, those are the mechanisms they're using to advance their revolution. And the war isn't over yet, right? We've had very important battles that we've won, 1989, 1991, of course, perhaps most significantly. But we haven't won the war against these guys yet. And they're making great progress both abroad with the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party, but at home, where they operate through a neo, you know, a common turn, which is privatized. It's George Soros, it's Steve Jobs, widow. It's Singham and his wife, Jody Evans, Code Pink, working through the hundreds of front organizations that they have to advance the revolution and to extinguish, of course, the spirit of 1776 and our freedoms in the United States and to kill

[Steve]

Western civilization in our 250th year of our independence. Hang on, Dr. Thayer. Writing a book about the America struggle with the Marxists, with Communists, over a hundred years. Struggle. Jack Posobic, author of the New York Times bestseller Un Humans. We're taking a short commercial break. We're going to be back in the worm in a moment.

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War Room.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

[Steve]

It's May Day 2026. Of course, the neo Marxists that are a big force in this country don't think they're not. That's why we have to continue to go after the deep state. Break this thing up. Jack Posobuk, you take a lot of criticism on msnbc. Every time they put your book up, you say, oh, my God, look at Posobec. He wrote this book about all these great people that freed people and were liberators. And he calls that. The book is unhumans. Walk me through that, sir. A New York Times top 10 bestseller I might. Or New York Times list bestseller.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, actually we all outsold every book on the New York Times list. But of course, they didn't want to put it in the number where it was, where it actually achieved. But Steve, the title is very simply. That's what they do to others. They look at you. If you are a impediment to their revolution, if you are someone who is considered right wing, if you are someone who is considered a petty bourgeoisie, meaning basically a small business owner or someone who's successful, if you're a member of the clergy, if you're a priest, if you're a nun, if you are someone who happens to be religious or if you've got, you know, a little bit too much pull in the military or something like that, they decide then that you must be removed. The kulaks, as they were called in the Russian Revolution. And so if you were a kulak and you didn't want to get with the program, you became, of course, the brunt of the Cheka. And the Cheka were the original secret police. And there were various iterations of the secret police prior to the KGB. There was also the NKVD during World War II. But the Cheka were predominantly the chief torturers of the revolution and the revolutionary Bolsheviks. One of the most famous and infamous methods of this is of course, memorialized in 1984 with the rat torture. And this, of course, in, I believe it's room 101 in the Orwell book, 1984, where they take the rat and they put him in a tube or they put him in a cage and then press that up, up to the individual's body and then they heat up the tube. So the only way the rat can get out is by eating through the person's body on the other side. That's what they would do to priests. That's what they would do to small business owners. That's what they would do to religious families. They would do this over and over and over, and they turned the country into informants against one another. So turn neighbor against neighbors. Kind of like, oh, I don't know what we saw here in the United States during COVID Now, hang on.

[Steve]

Actually, in 2021, I want to go back to that term kulak, because this has direct resonance with the world.

[Jack Posobiec]

Means everyone who watches war room, everyone who watches humans, we're all kulak in Russia.

[Steve]

And correct me if I'm wrong, in Russia society, you had serfs and peasants, but in the villages you had peasants who were just more organized.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and, and it's the middle class.

[Steve]

Get it together.

[Jack Posobiec]

It means the middle class.

[Steve]

It's. It, it. It was what the middle class, they became, or they were still serfs and they were still peasants, but they were the top of the food chain there on their own drive and initiative. They had. They kept their houses nicer, and people in the community respected them and looked up to them. And that's what the Bolsheviks understood. If they were to basically take charge of the countryside and take charge of the serfs and the peasants, what they had to do was destroy the kulaks, the people in the communities, just like the war on posse the people that, you know, have the Lions clubs and coach Little League and organize the churches. Those are the ones that have to go. And this is why, after President Trump had the election stolen from him, they would have the. They would have those billboards if you see anything suspicious, or they would put tremendous pressure on anybody, like watching the war room or anybody that went to a MAGA rally. They need to always destroy the kulaks. It's one thing to get the aristocracy, to get the officers in the military, to get the priests in the church, but they understood, and their number one focus was always, we got to get the kulaks. We have to get the people that live that are peasants or that serfs but are respected.

[Jack Posobiec]

Stephen, if I could bring that to today, go back to when I was face to face with. At the time, I believe it was Mayor elect Zorami in the Oval Office of the White House. And what did I press him on? I pressed him on his policy, and we're now seeing this writ large across New York City. His policy of targeting white neighborhoods for higher taxes, for higher regulations, for higher prosecutions. I said, sir, that was your policy. You said white neighborhoods. You didn't say that you were going to go after corrupt businesses or fraud or corrupt practices, or that you were going to look at illegal aliens or anything like this. No, you said that you had a certain group of people that you were going to. Will to scapegoat and that you were deliberately going to do this. And he said, oh, well, you know, I was just describing the neighborhoods. And I said, well, you described them as white neighborhoods, sir. That was your words. So, Steve, it hasn't changed. It hasn't changed at all. What's changed is that it's less about class now. It's still about class, don't get me wrong. But it's. There's. There's another angle that they've added to it in Neo Bolshevism, where they bring up race, they bring up gender, they bring up sexuality. That's what they've added to it. But if you go to, like a Luigi Maggione type, you see, it's the exact same hatred, the exact same violence all the way down. It's the Magiones and it is the Mandamis all the way down.

[Steve]

This is our Jack. This is our. Because I know you got a bounce. This is our fight, our fight politically, because this is the muscle of the Democratic Party. When you were down in. When I was down in Texas 9, right, the state district. These are the guys walking door to door. This is the working Family Party. This is the dsa. This is the. Where the energy's coming from. The Democratic Party. It's coming.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're over Georgia, too.

[Steve]

And these people are totally radical. Go ahead, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I'm just saying that the Working Families farty, they're all over Georgia. They're moving in state by state.

[Steve]

Oh, big time, all over the country. And this is where their energy and we have to call them out for what they are. This is neo Marxism. And you're right, the reason we say neo is because they bring race, gender, sexuality, all of it into this. This is why they are so radical about the transgender ideology. They refuse to back off that. And, folks, if you think DEI is gone and transgender ideology gone, you are absolutely incorrect. The corporations are ready to bring it all back. These people are going to infuse it into the government, into the military, into all of our institutions. We are so far from killing that because it's central to their ideology and it's central to how they organize. Jack posobic

[Jack Posobiec]

100%. And while I am, I am, I am, you know, I see it positively, you know, hopeful when I see some of the Fortune 500s that are pulling out of the SPLC finally, after all the years of exposing their corruption and exposing the role that they've played for the financial institutions and the Fortune 500 of this country, the refute, the debanking, et cetera, that they've worked with hand in glove. But unfortunately, Steve, every time we take aim at one of their organizations in terms of exposing them, put a spotlight on them, they're just going to move to another one. They're going to move to another organization or they're going to keep going until they find another guy like a Cole Thomas Allen or a Tyler Robinson or Luigi Maggione who's going to go and say, you know what? It's not good enough that we're doing the debanking and the censorship. We, we got to move to other means. We have to move to revolutionary means. And Steve, that's what they say over and over and over. They tell you that these forces are oppressive and you must rise up against your oppressors. And that's what they start doing, Steve. They don't care. And here's the dirty little secret. They don't actually care about equality. They don't care about justice. You think these people care about race and gender and minority groups and any of these things? No, of course not. The killing is the point. The brutality is the point. The anger is the point. That's what they want. It's envy. It is resentment. That is what is at the root of all of this and all of the flowery language. That's just marketing. That's just window dressing.

[Steve]

And at the heart of it, it's atheistic and it's great enemies.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of course it's demonic, right?

[Steve]

Whether orthodox, it's demonic and you see

[Jack Posobiec]

the COVID That's why we have the demonic imagery, all the rest of it.

[Steve]

Before you go, Cole Allen, because people say he's crazy. He's not crazy. There's been no evidence at all. He's not crazy. This guy, though, was flipped in his formation as an assassin and as someone that felt he had to use have a mass casualty incident to basically thwart the oppressors of the United States of America. Shows you how twisted they can get by this ideology. This ideology is very powerful and because of the way that they continually roll it out to these young people, particularly young people who may seem a little rootless. Sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and Steve, you know, we've got, over at Human Events, we've actually put. I haven't published this yet, but we've got an archive and I've set it up so that it can be searchable of thousands upon thousands of his tweets, his social media posts and you could see it was 2024 where he became hyper radicalized. He seems to have been aligned with some of these NAFO groups where, you know, very tight with the pro Ukraine elements online and full on believer in the Russia conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian agent working for Vladimir Putin. Also became anti Israel, was anti the Iran war. But at the same time, Steve, it's ultimately just the same type of rhetoric that you see on Blue sky that you would see on MSNBC every single night. And it's very straightforward. He says over and over that it's time for someone to do something. No one else has decided to do this yet or no one has gotten far enough. So I'm going to take it upon myself. He's taking the logical conclusion of this type of rhetoric from the left. And again, this isn't the extreme left, this isn't the fringe left. This is mainstream. When the New York Times is putting up guys talking about, oh, the maggione's actions against Brian Thompson were justified because he was guilty of social murder. Steve, it's so, it's so key for people to understand this. The New York Times is platforming this type of ideology. So this isn't fringe, this is in the New York Times, it's. And they're telling you you're committing self defense and defense of others. When you go and go look at the arsenal this guy had at the White House correspondence dinner at the Washington Hilton, Hinckley Hilton, right, Daggers, throwing knives, I believe it was a 1911 pistol. And he had the Mossberg 88 pistol grip shotgun. And he ran in there, fired at least one round off and was running straight through, waited for them to put down the magnetometers and then was running through. The dog tried to, tried to warn him. They didn't listen to the dog. And he was running through and he got very, very, very close to the President, United States, the Vice President, the, you know, so many members of the cabinet, et cetera. And he wanted to do this, oh, 100%.

[Steve]

Jack. Where do people go if they want to pick up unhumans or watch your show or particularly you're the Associated Press of maga, your Twitter feed where they

[Jack Posobiec]

go, of course, up at Jack Posobic, Steve. And then the podcast Human Events Daily. Get that on Apple, get that on Spotify, we're all over social media. The book Unhumans, New York Times bestseller. You can go and get that on Amazon. You can get that unhumans book dot com. We have a couple of special editions and There's a great forward that was written in there by one Stephen K. Bannon that I highly recommend.

[Steve]

One of my great. I love this book. What's the clip you gave our production team? The clip we're going to see on the way out? What are we going to see in here?

[Jack Posobiec]

I believe this is the fifth, the victory parade. Now, it's YouTube, so you have to, you know, caveat that it's credited as the Victory Parade in the Soviet Union, May of 1957. And I believe this is one of the ones, Red Square, that Chairman Mao actually participated in. Remember, the only country that Mao would ever travel to was, of course, his patrons up in Moscow.

[Steve]

And he didn't like traveling there. He was ordered to. Jack Bassovic, thank you so much. We'll go out with that Dr. Bradley Thayer, fighting the hundred year war, 100 year plus war against Marxism. Next to the world.

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[Steve]

Dr. Thayer, you can cut on MSNBC every night and they've got the same type of nomenclature. They're talking about democracy, but it's really neo Marxism. They've taken over education training in this country, the master's degree or people. And I don't know why you have to get a degree in education to be a teacher. It seems like we had a pretty good run in the 19th and 20th century, early 20th century, before that affected the system. But talk to us about today, because they're trying to get to these kids. And this is much wider spread than the media covers. This is very in, particularly in the junior high schools and high schools, they are radicalizing a generation, and I mean really radicalizing a generation of young Americans. Sir.

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Well, they are, Steve, and they've been doing it for some time. And it's really evidence of how far they've advanced and how successful they've been again at capturing the ideas industry. Right. You, you can't go to university, you can't go through K through 12, with important exceptions like homeschooling and others, but you're going to be indoctrinated by. Neil. Bolsheviks, who captured the educational system, who captured the media, who captured really much of intellectual life, the entertainment industry, social media, they've got it all wrapped up. And they did it because they're organized, they know what they want, and they advance along those lines. And they've been supremely successful at so doing, which is a large part of the deep problems that we face. Right, is the fact that we're struggling against a very organized entity, really, a, a Neo Comintern, a privatized common turn that's run by George Soros and his son. It's from my next.

[Steve]

Make sure people understand. Hang on. Your Hang on. The term Common Turn means what? And why is it important for people to know this?

[Dr. Bradley Thayer]

Absolutely. So the Bolsheviks wanted to spread their revolution. They came to power in 1917. They recognized they had a problem that they needed to spread this thing. So they created an organization called the Communist International, also called the Third International. And the intent of that was to spread the Bolshevik Revolution globally, everywhere. Where Communist parties didn't exist, like in China, for example, they would create one. They created the Chinese Communist Party in 1921. They created, in 1919, really two American communist parties, which they merged into one, the Communist Party of the United States by 1921, formally by 1927. So they generated Communist parties. But they also recognized they needed to create and fund front organization using what they called united front tactics, which is to recognize you probably weren't going to take over countries through a coup d' etat like the bolsheviks did on November 7, 1917. But what you need to do was penetrate and unhinge societies. So you needed to find out what kept a society together. That would be religion, that would be the family, that would be patriotism, that would be American identity, for example. You needed to target that and gradually at first eliminate it, erase it. Right. What the NSS national security strategy calls civilizational erasure. Well, that's just the realization of the tactics that Lenin, the Comintern started to focus on what united the west, what made it great, in order to destroy it. And once it was destroyed, they'd be able to seize power again, not through a coup, not through a coup d', etat, but by gradually having it come their way, all of it drop in to their hands. And again, they were supremely successful at doing so. Making communist parties, making front organizations. That now has been taken up by these billionaires, these woke billionaires. Soros Singham, Jody Evans jobs widow per Emerson Collective. Again, huge source of this. So they have these woke billionaires by the score who are advancing these ideas and to whom the ideas seem very attractive to folks who don't know. They don't know, sadly, because we failed to sustain American identity. And to call this out, this was

[Steve]

the entire really idea of Charlie Kirk. And what Charlie Kirk did at Turn Point, particularly starting on those college campuses. And if you see what Charlie would always say, if you disagree with me, we're gonna get you to the front of the line. And if you see what these kids would spout to Charlie, it was neo Marxism. They had been trained, they had been brought up about this. They didn't really understand the American experience. They didn't understand the basic foundations of the republic and Western civilization. It was pretty shocking. But that's why the reason Charlie, I think was so effective, he was so patient. You just heard this drivel coming from these people that they all came out of the modern American education system. And there are no homeschooled kids at the front of the lines for Charlie Kerr, because he's always put the dissonance at the front. And Charlie would sit there, you know, year after year at university after university. And this is what he was up against. And what Charlie said is, we'll talk this out. And here's the amazing thing is Charlie, in his own way, right, his own kind of very knowledgeable but accessible way, changed so many of those people. That's why there was such open grief for Charlie, particularly among young people at the college campuses. He was an apostle for the Christian west in understanding the values of it and how it's manifested in the American republic as counter to everything that the neo Marxists stand for. This is why the Bolsheviks and Dr. Thayer says 100 year war. Anyway, Dr. Thayer, hang on. You're going to stick around because I'm going to get I got Navarro from the White House and then Eric Bolling is going to join us. There's going to stick around. We're going to talk also what's gone down in the war on Mayday in 2026. You see it in your neighborhoods, if you see it in your towns and cities or are covered on your news tonight. Remember, this has a long tradition and it's a dangerous tradition, goes all the way back to the French Revolution, right? The very two different revolutions, the American and the French, with two pretty different outcomes. BIRCH GOLD Now's the time, I think, to understand and learn the American economic system and particularly the role of the dollar as the prime reserve currency in the global financial system, how that relates to the value of gold, physical gold, and why central banks throughout the world are buying still, I think in our second, second, second and a half or third year of record rates of purchases. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon end of the Dollar Empire it's all free. Eight free installments of Kirk. In the eighth one we just put out, you get to talk to Philip Packard and the team. Short commercial break Back for the second hour.

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