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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Mark Beal
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. We're facing an opponent right now in
Unidentified Government Official
Iran that has refused to submit.
Steve Bannon
You seem optimistic now that you may be closer to a deal.
Jason Frazier
What's different about this moment now than in other moments where a deal has seemed close?
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
Well, why do you say they refuse to submit? You don't know that. You don't know what's going on behind the US Ships.
Unidentified Government Official
A few days ago.
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
Yeah, no, a few days ago is a long time ago. You know, in the world of war. A few days ago. No, they want to make a deal badly and we'll see if we get there, if we get there, they can't have nuclear weapons. You know, it's very simple. But what's not to submit? So they had a navy with 159 ships and now every ship is blown to pieces and lying at the bottom of the water. They had an air force, lots of planes and they don't have any planes, they don't have any anti aircraft, they don't have any radar left. Their missiles are mostly decimated. They have some, they have probably 18, 19% but not a lot by comparison to what they had. And their leaders are all dead. So I think we won. Now it's only a question of, look, if we left right now Iran, it would take them 20 years to rebuild. You would call that we're in good shape, right? Fantastic shape. We're in good shape and now we're doing well. Now we have to get what we have to get. If we don't do that, we'll have to go a big step further.
Jason Frazier
But is that what it's about?
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
With that being said, they want to make a deal. We've had very good talks over the last 24 hours and it's very possible that we'll make a deal. Yeah, please.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Mr. President, it's good to see you.
Trevor Comstock
What are the status of these talks?
Jason Frazier
Since they're very good, just give us
Steve Bannon
some insight as to where we've had
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
talks and we've had some good talks before, as you know. And all of a sudden the next day, they're like, they forgot what happened. You know, they're proud. Like these guys are proud. Nobody more proud than these guys. Sometimes they fight on pride because, you know, they're injured, they're hurt. No matter how great you are, you get hit by somebody else that looks like them. It's. It's very tough. But they have great pride. These people have great pride. The others do, too.
Steve Bannon
Wednesday, 6 May. Your Valor 2026 is a story breaking the Wall Street Journal interview with a guess a diplomat. He was Assistant Secretary of Defense Daniel Shapiro. That's saying that President Trump wants to wrap up the reason he's making a force march and to get this memorandum of understanding done, which will supposedly be a bridge that will lead to deeper and longer talks about a definitive deal, although I don't think that will ever happen because I don't think you can get there with the Persians. I think it's a tactic they use that he wants it finished, Shapiro saying, wants it finished because he doesn't want to go to Beijing as a supplicant. I think that's misreading what the facts are. It. It appears to me that with, and I don't know, and I don't think anybody knows actually how much of the oil they've let out is actually going to Beijing. But President Trump has all the ability to shut down Beijing 100% on oil they get from the Persians, and that's quite a bit. We don't know the definitive amount, but let's say it's 80% of their foreign oil, is my understanding. So it's a lot. And they can only power their economy
Unidentified Government Official
if they get it.
Steve Bannon
So I think President Trump and this one, he definitely has the cards. I'm not sure he's got all the cards in dealing with the Persians, but we should have an update tonight and we'll get bowling. Everybody back on tomorrow as President Trump right there walked through kind of what his negotiating posture posture was, and particularly he went back to the nuclear weapons, whereas Rubio yesterday was making the assertion that Epic Fury was really about taking around taking away the conventional shield of the nuclear weapons. Anyway, we'll get updates tonight and brief everybody tomorrow. But it's fully engaged right now. Everything stood down. The blockade still is Working. But the Hormuz convoy escort service is, is now stopped or stood down for the time being. So they're not taking big groups of these, of the tankers, large, very large tankers. And the big roll on, the roll on roll off ships, the container ships. So we'll get more on that. Interesting. Because China, one of the big things are China is going to be AI going to be talking about AI. I want to play Scott Besson. I think there's a new sheriff in town. We tried to jam this in today about Maria Bartiromo, but I got Mark Beale here. Let me go and play the clip and I'll bring Mark in. From the AI policy network Secretary before you go, final, final word on AI artificial intelligence, because I know you called
Cleta Mitchell
a meeting, some people said it was
Steve Bannon
an emergency meeting to talk about the banks and AI after the breach of anthropic.
Cleta Mitchell
What can you tell us about this issue? Is this a systemic issue? Should we be worried about AI hacking our bank accounts?
Unidentified Government Official
You shouldn't, Maria. And the US government has gotten, gotten involved. The AI companies, they are working with us. What we had in the past month was a step change in the power of one large language model. But we're going to see it from the other AI companies. And it's important, Maria, that the US stays ahead here. Imagine if China or some non state actor were ahead of us. So what we are determined to do is work with our AI companies to allow them to continue innovate. But our charge of the US government is maintaining safety. And there is a very important calculus here between innovation and safety. And at the US government, we're going to make sure that things stay safe. Chair Powell and I called the bank executives into town. It was a little less dramatic than it seemed at the, the at the time because they were already in D.C. so we got them in, in person rather than convening a call later in the, in the week. And the banks are working on their resiliency and the US government is working side by side with everyone. And again, very, very important for the US to continue to dominate here. Set the global standard and maintain our lead.
Steve Bannon
We set the global standard by shutting off the Chinese Communist Party and all of their ecosystem. That means chips education. There shouldn't be any Chinese nationals in American universities. None. All 350,000. I guess that's not all Chinese nationals, but of the Chinese, they all have to go home. They're not here to study medieval poetry. They're all in tech. They're taking tech billets. But the Most important thing there is Scott Bessant, who's what we refer to as an adult. The reason the capital markets have done so well in this administration is Scott Bessant has been there with President Trump. This is why equity markets all time high. The bond market is still not crazy given some of the moves that have been made. And even commodities market the oil's up. Scott Besson's been a safe pair of hands and Wall street knows that they can trust what he said and what has Scott Bessen. For the first time in this administration, we're going to make sure things stay safe. Safety is every report is part of is as important as innovation. You should take that as a papal bull. This is why Sachs has gone. The accelerationists are losing and they're upset. There's a hit piece on yours truly over at American Greatness, which is totally run and owned by the oligarchs, about how I'm going against President Trump's policy about because I'm saying we shouldn't sell chips or we shouldn't have any ecosystem available for the Chinese Communist Party. You damn right. And if you're arguing for it, you're arguing for the Chinese Communist Party. Oh, no. We have to make sure that they're, that they stay on our systems. Otherwise they'll do it. Hey, if we shut them off, it'll take them years to catch up in. Years in artificial intelligence are like millennia. We can shut them down and shut them down immediately. And we should, and we have to. We shouldn't listen to Jason Wong, Jensen Wong, and all these agents of influence, the oligarchs. Elon Musk. Mother's living over in Shanghai. She's some TV star. Elon Musk and Jason Wang, they're, they're agents of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, full stop. Mark Beale joins us. Mark, your assessment now of where we stand with artificial intelligence in this great fight to make sure that we don't let this technology run, run roughshod over American culture and society. Sir.
Mark Beal
Hey, Steve, thanks for having me. You know, this anthropic capability called Mythos. When it got released and when the government saw just exactly what it could do, there was certainly a paradigm shift. You know, imagine a new cyber weapon that's capable of running autonomous cyber operations while you sleep and finding all kinds of exploits and software that have been around for 30, 40 years. This is an incredible level of capability. And you know, Secretary Besant stepped up and was like you said, the adult in the room, and he took the bull by the Horns. And he said, it's like, we're going to make innovation happen for the American people, and we're going to do it safely. And I think people like you and I have been arguing for a long time that we can both have safety and innovation. And it sounds like this guy is serious. Secretary Bessen is serious. He's going to kind of make it happen for us. I thought when he convened the CEOs of the banks, it was a really decisive leadership. And, you know, when folks like him see that there's a threat, they're going to respond. They have a solemn duty to protect the American people. And that's exactly what's happening here. So this is a very welcome change. But you'll notice he's not anti innovation, and by the way, neither am I. We want to see innovation accelerate. We want to see good things being built in America for our own competitive advantage, for our national security, and we want to have safety as well. And this is really exciting development in Washington on this critical policy question.
Steve Bannon
But, but Mythos was a preview, put a lie to all the happy talk you heard beforehand because they had a. They. They. They came up with a. With a model or. Or a part of AI that, you know, completely went against the boundaries of what everybody thought. And it's. And it's accelerating at it with recursive. What, learning. It's an accelerate. Accelerating at a accelerating rate. The way Scott Besson got involved was he and Powell, who don't work on a lot of things together, obviously they called the banks together. Now the banks happen to be here. I think it was the week I did the Semaphore Conference. And the reason Semaphore does it, the World bank has their meeting. The IMF is here, so all the Jamie Dimon and all the guys are here. But if you remember the news reports coming out of there is that they told the banks of what they have here. With Mythos Review, you could evaporate a bank and all its systems in like, a minute or two, including all your savings or your checking account, everything. It was that powerful. And it's getting more powerful every day. That's what got the bank's attention. It's what got Scott Besson's attention, sir.
Mark Beal
Absolutely. A guy like Mr. Bessant, you know, coming out of the continental Wall street, knows how you want to optimize and maximize your upside while minimizing your downside. And that's kind of exactly what he seems to be doing right now. We. We've gone for a number of years now pretending like this AI stuff is just another regular tech product. Well, the reality is that it's not. You can sort of plot points on a graph and you can see just how far and how fast this has come over the last three years, and you can kind of have a sense on where it's all headed. And by the way, you know, there was a piece in Axios last week kind of talking about Mythos and how scary it is. I got news for you. These are still baby models. They're only just beginning to sort of come into their own. And as you said, there is this sort of recursive self improvement loop, basically when the AI starts to make the next version of itself, and then that version makes the next version of itself. You know, we don't really know where that all leads and what that actually means. And there could be bottlenecks, there could be slowdowns, and there might not be. So whatever the case is, it's a welcome step forward toward increasing our preparedness to hunker down for what's to come. Because I do think there could be an incredibly bright future with this technology. But it has to be rightly guided and Besant. Taking a stand here is an incredible first step.
Steve Bannon
It's not going to be bright if we don't make sure that we got guardrail so we don't go over the abyss. I mean, the recursive part of it.
Mark Beal
Exactly.
Steve Bannon
The problem with mythos is that they're going to get down to, like, hours of where the model can recreate itself better. This was a cyber attack model that nobody knew, including the guys in the Pentagon. This is why this was this huge fight with Anthropic about they wouldn't turn it all over to the Pentagon. We actually took Anthropic's position because we said, hey, we have to sit down and make sure we fully understand what's going on. And now, obviously, Anthropic is back in good graces, and they're kind of working through things with. With the government. We're going to have Tyler o' Neill now. Anthropic is like, one of the best when it comes to that, but they're also kind of woke. And Tyler o' Neill is going to be on tomorrow to go through all that, I tell you. Mark, can you just hang on one second? We'll take a short commercial break. I know you got to bounce. It's a Friday afternoon in May. The imperial capital is on fire. We're gonna go to Tennessee and Georgia, the old south to find out exactly what's going on and redistricting. Plus in Georgia, major news about a federal grand jury. Looks like holding court down there on guess what, the stealing of elections. All next in the war room. The American health care system is broken and for most Americans, nothing changes. There's still delays, denials, high cost insurance, roadblocks. So when I find people doing things differently, I talk about it all. Family pharmacy is not your typical big chain pharmacy. This is an independent family owned pharmacy that gives you access to over 400 medications delivered straight to your door. They've got ivermectin, antibiotics, antivirals, nad, even your daily maintenance medications and so much more. If you already have a prescription, your doctor can send it directly. If you don't, their doctors handle it. As long as there is a medical necessity, they'll take care of you. And I'll tell you this, the feedback from people listening to this show and watching has been incredibly strong. People are using it, it's working for them and they're sticking with it. That's because it cuts out the delays, the middlemen and all the usual nonsense. This is about being ready before you need it. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com that's all one word. Allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use code Bannon10 to save 10%. The healthcare system is broken. Your pharmacy doesn't have to be War
Mark Beal
room Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock.
Steve Bannon
Foreign it's obviously Wednesday afternoon or I'm a time traveler, one or the other. No, it's not Friday. It just feels like a Friday. Victory after victory. Mark, I, I don't want and you've been such a warrior as, as also so many of the the men and women we've had on here that are fighting this to make sure this thing is safe or something has some modicum of safety. We can never take our foot off the gas and we always have to be vigilant. And I mean working nonstop as people are guys like yourself. But I do think since the removal of David Sacks and now Scott Besant has a bigger say so and there are other things happening behind the scenes that we are breaking the back of the accelerationist with all their money and all their stroke and all their offers of jobs to people and money and all these funds that get put up, they are crashing up on the shoals. Where do we stand with the overall preemption bill or what I call the amnesty bill
Mark Beal
right now? As far as I can tell, that seems to be dead in the water. Looking at the, we're already in May of an election year. We, you know, watching the vote counts and watching the different campaigns play out across the country. I think many of the friends of the, of the kind of big tech movement in Congress have kind of maybe thrown in the towel at least for this Congress on trying to move anything like that ahead now.
Steve Bannon
Because I think it's still, hang on. Because the reason they're doing that in election year, because people hate this, whether it's data centers, whether they hate the way these, these guys roll, they can't trust them at all. There's nothing trustworthy about them. And you're seeing a revolt of the peasants. The populist movement is sitting there going, we hate you guys and we'll turf you out if you push this. And that's why it's gone, that's why it's going silent to a degree, sir.
Mark Beal
I think that's right. You know, I think I count myself among the peasant class. I, you know, I think, look, some of this infrastructure we're going to need, we're going to need to re industrialize America. But you know, where the tech industry I think miscalculated was they treated this like crypto. And like most American people don't really encounter crypto on a day to day basis. Well, this AI stuff is touching their lives, touching their family's lives, touching their children's lives. And so clearly it's going to have a way bigger effect on them personally, whether it be about their jobs, the future of education, the future of work and the future of national security. And so people rightfully have questions and they look at the behavior of some of these tech companies over the years and they say, do we really want these kinds of people with this amount of power, given their track record of not, not always acting in an ethical way. And I think all these things have come together. You're right, it's been a massive revolt. Now of course, like people like me also worry that we go too far. On the other hand, because we do, we do have to figure this out and walk this fine line because we can't just pretend that AI is not here, is here. It's going to be important for the future of the country. I think President Trump knows this. We just got to figure out a way to put the right guardrails in place so that people can be safe and then we can have the innovation that we need to be successful.
Steve Bannon
Well, the thing advises a lot more time is shutting down the CCP but that's a topic for a different day. I know you, you've been spending a lot of time on this and we'll have you back on Mark Beal in the interim. Where do people go right where do people go right now to catch up with you?
Mark Beal
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Steve Bannon
Make sure you join, folks. Another great opportunity here. Thank you, Mark Beal. Appreciate you.
Mark Beal
Thanks, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Is Leahy up yet? I haven't done a sound checker with him. Do I have Michael Patrick Leahy? We don't. Okay. No. Oh, we don't. Hey, Michael Patrick Leahy, I've got Jason Frazier and Cleta Mitchell in Georgia, but I want to, I want to give them a little more Runway, brother. Please tell me that Governor Bill Lee stepped up and did the right thing. The legislature is going to do the right thing, that we're going to go to a a perfect map in the great in the Volunteer State of Tennessee, sir.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Yeah, we're we will have a Nine Zero map by probably 5pm tomorrow. Maybe 9pm tomorrow. Yeah. Governor Lee stepped up. There's a special session. It's ongoing. I've seen the map. And it, it's interesting. The the least Republican of these districts is R plus 11, I think actually might even be R plus 15 in the in the latest configuration. That's what the map they're looking at. The first district with Harsh Barger remains basically the same. The second district with Burchett the same. Fleischmann, the third District pretty much the same. The fourth District with Desjard is the same, but it adds a third of Davidson County. The 6th District, parts of Davidson county, loses, gets all of Wilson county, drops a few of the rural counties. The seventh District is largely the same. The big one big change is the fifth District. That's Andy Ogles district that had been part of Davidson county, half of Wilson, Williamson, Marshall, Murray and Lewis. That has changed dramatically. I just talked with Andy. He's in the new fifth, which is the basically the western part of Williamson Murray county, and then it stretches all the way up to Clarksville and then all the way over to Lake county on the Mississippi and then down to Shelby county. And that goes from an R 8 to an R 18.
Steve Bannon
And how is he? I take it, he's pretty excited. Although it's not his old stomp. Totally. His stomping grounds.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, yeah, he lives in that district. I just confirmed it that he lives in the district. No, it's a very, very good district for him. Then we have the 8th district, which is probably going to be Customs, which is part of Shelby county, part of Jackson. That's, I think an R plus 22. And then the 9th district is the open district. Previously in the old map, the 9th district was in essence the city of Memphis, majority black district. Now it's got a little bit of Shelby county and then it runs all the way over with a bunch of rural counties to the east and then up towards Williamson county and Murray County. So that's, that's one heck of a district.
Steve Bannon
And that's. And that's now R plus what?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, that, that one I think is like R plus 20. So all of those districts, that's.
Steve Bannon
I love the Volunteer State. Such a great state. This is why people are pouring into it. Tell me about Stephen Cohen. I mean, he's, he's feasted off that forever. Correct? That unconstitutional district.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Yeah, the, the, the, the majority black district in Memphis. He's easily won reelection. You know, he was elected to the State Senate in 1982. I think in 2006 he was elected to the, the House. He's had a safe run there forever. He went down to the Capitol yesterday and was whining and complaining. The guy's so old he needs a cane to walk around. And he, you know, there are a couple thousand people down at the Tennessee General assembly complaining about it, but they will have no effect. My sources tell me that this will be a done deal by close of business tomorrow.
Steve Bannon
Close of business nine zero in Tennessee, sir. That's pretty extraordinary.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Yeah. There will be, of course, a legal. There's a couple little things that have to happen. There was a state law that prohibited mid, mid decade changes. That law will be changed allowing it. But then, you know, this will be. The governor will sign it probably by Friday. And then there will be the obligatory legal challenges. They will all fail because this is completely in compliance with the 63 decision, the Calais decision by the Supreme Court a week and a half ago.
Steve Bannon
Mark Elias will definitely. He'll suck his donors in for some money to go have a challenge, but it'll be beaten back.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Won't work. Yeah, will not work.
Steve Bannon
We started this journey a couple of years ago with Tennessee. Was it 7:2 at the time or was it 6:3? What is. What did we Start, we started this journey well while ago. Where were we?
Michael Patrick Leahy
You go back, you go back to 2000. It was, it was, I think it was like a 63D back in 2000. And it's changed, you know, as Tennessee has become more and more conservative, it's been a one for some time. Memphis has been the, the lone holdout. But, you know, Tennessee is a 6535 Trump Trump state. Right. So it's. By the way, I am a big fan of legal political gerrymandering because it's totally constitutional, it's totally legal, and if we go full max, as you well know, if all the Republicans go full max, we'll end up with a house with maybe 250 Republicans and 185 Democrats. And I think we can work with that.
Steve Bannon
That is our next phase. First off is to get a real, to get a real sensitive. Remember Stephen Miller and I had it.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
The first term that we weren't going to count any illegal aliens. And the guys over the Commerce Department literally collapsed and said, you can't do this. We said, hey, the courts will back it up 100%. This is the way it ought to be. You can't count the illegal aliens. President Trump won't let that happen this next time. But if you get the illegal aliens out, you'll have 250 or better. Right. I mean, tells us 100 million, 100 million illegal aliens. And this is the business model of the Democratic Party, is it not?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Totally the business model. Let's bring in the illegal aliens, let's put together all these fraudulent programs, let's give them money and our friends money and then have them vote for us. That it's a business model, it's not a political model.
Steve Bannon
Yes, Steve, exactly. Michael Patrick Leahy, where do people, where do people go get your content?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Go to Tennessee Star.com Tennessee Star.com and you can see that, all the latest breaking stories.
Steve Bannon
It's fantastic. Now, are you, do you have any time off? Are you still at night school? Leahy's the only guy I know. Went to Harvard, then went to Stanford to get the mba. Hold it. Harvard College, Stanford mba. I mean, that's. Now he's at night school becoming a lawyer and everything he does is tainted by that. How much longer you got in night school?
Michael Patrick Leahy
I got a couple years, but I just finished the Constitutional law final exam and the civil procedure final exam and boy, those things come in handy when it comes to these kinds of issues, doesn't it?
Steve Bannon
Don't they really do? That's why I lean on you. I go to smart guys. Always go to smart lawyers. Michael. Michael. Patrick Leahy. Thank you so much, sir.
Jason Frazier
All right.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
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Jason Frazier
War room.
Mark Beal
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
I'm gonna get Ren and Degrasse up tomorrow. Also, Paul Dan's is going to join us. We're going to talk about South Carolina tomorrow. Tonight we got to talk about Georgia, by the way, once again, Tennessee just shows you how it gets done. 9, 0 and Stephen Cohen, I said the big three are Clyburn, Benny Thompson and Cohen. In fact, I'll put Cohen and, and I, I've, I've put Clyburn as number one because he's the one that got Biden in, in regime change. He knew exactly. It was stolen. 100%, no doubt. And Benny Thompson, who was one of the guys that put me in prison, he's third. That kind of vengeance is not, it's, it's, I just want to get the job done. But Tennessee, I'm telling you, President Trump makes the grassroots, gets up on it, Blackburn gets up on it, ogles and everybody else gets up on it. And the president comes in, as he should, makes a phone call, Bill Lee and says, hey, look, we got a role on this, brother. And Bill Lee goes from, because they're all hiding from him. Not remember, none of the Republican establishment wants to do this. They do not. Because at the country club, somebody says something to, to them or they, you know, they can't go to New York and, you know, hang out at all. The, when they take their business trips, they don't like it. It's uncomfortable. That's why the country's in the shape it's in. You got to fight for this like the Democrats do. They're playing smash mouth. Bill Mark, a lie is going to be in court tomorrow afternoon. You watch. He's going to be up on Embassy raising a ton of money. He's going to go in court and try to slow this down or stop it. It's not going to happen. But that's the way they play it. Smash Mouth all over. This is why we have very good news and I'm so glad that Tulsi Gabbard and Cash and particularly Todd Blanche are now on top of things. Cleta Mitchell joins us with Jason Frazier, two of my favorite folks, Jason down in Georgia and Cleta all over everywhere. Cleta, just give us the news. What exactly was announced today that is happening down in the great state of Georgia, ma'?
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
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Cleta Mitchell
Well, on April 17th, Dan Bishop, who's the U.S. attorney in the Middle District of North Carolina, who has now been assigned by Todd Blanch and the Department of Justice to be responsible. He's taking over the Election integrity investigation of 2020, taking over the Georgia case where the FBI issued a search warrant and went in and, well, the FBI didn't issue, but the magistrate issued the FBI search warrant and seized all the ballots and records on April 17, we learned this week that Dan Bishop, as the US Attorney along with the US Attorney in Atlanta, issued a subpoena, a grand jury subpoena to the Fulton County Board of Registration Elections, that group of geniuses that run the Fulton county elections, and asking for the roster and names and contact information for everyone who worked in specific capacities in the 2020 election in Fulton County. And let me just quickly tell you what people first of all, everybody, they want the rosters of everybody, contractors, employees and also volunteers who worked on if they if you were assigned to review mail in ballots, assigned to review to the voter review and panel. That's where they look at the ballots and absentee ballots and adjudicate to say, I think. Mrs. I think this person wanted to vote for Joe Biden. That's what they always decided. Assigned to the mobile voting locations, anyone assigned to transfer results to or from media or to transport ballots or ballot stock, anybody who was contracted or employed everybody who was contracted or employed by Fulton county, anybody who worked or volunteered on election Day, who were signed to review or tabulate ballots, anyone who worked or volunteered for the risk limiting audit, anybody who worked or volunteered for the recount and anyone who served as a precinct manager assistant manager. And just a couple of things I'll point out about this. If you are a precinct manager assistant manager, you're supposed to sign the poll tapes, the tabulation tapes. You have to confirm that the tabulator was set at zero at the beginning and you have to then look at the numbers at the end, put that down on the form and assigned by the precinct manager and assistant manager. You know, there are 390 precincts where there were there were no signatures whatsoever. We have seen that they so we know that that was a mess. They're going to now go in, they're trying to get the names to be able to go and say, okay, you were the precinct manager at such and such polling location. Did you even see the poll tape, the tabulator tape? Why didn't you sign it? And they're going to get to go in and find out if they were reviewing the processing the absentee ballots. Did you look at what did you do to confirm the signature was accurate? Did you? If they're going to get the list of the ACLU attorneys that Brad Raffensperger put into counties all over the state to teach them how to not verify signatures. I mean, this is a really great move. And of course, the only way we know about this, because grand jury subpoenas are secret, is that of course The Fulton County Board of Elections has filed an action and motion to quash this subpoena. And they attach the subpoena to their motion. That's how we know they did it.
Steve Bannon
Clear. This has to be sending shock waves down here. Real quickly, go back through the categories of who they're calling in. I mean, and Dan Bishop is a serious guy. Dan Bishop is such a serious guy. I mean, if he, if he's doing this, this is beyond real. So just give me the categories.
Cleta Mitchell
Okay, just one more time. It's everybody who was paid by the Fulton County Election Board, whether you were a contractor. Remember, they hired these temporary firms, so one owned by Stacey Abrams, by the way. So anybody paid as an employee or a contractor, and anyone, whether you're paid or volunteer to review mail in ballots, if you are part of the voter review board, if you were part of the mobile voting locations, then, I mean, all these names, they want names and contact information. Result. If you, if anybody who was responsible for delivering ballots and ballot material, say, from the polling places to the county and that kind of thing, anybody who was. Who worked on election day, who was assigned to review or tabulate ballots, that would include everybody at State Farm arena, by the way, Anybody who worked or volunteered for the risk limiting audit. Remember that. We know that there were scurry things with that audit. Individuals who worked or volunteered for the recant. Now, remember, we know that people forged and put the wrong information on those. Those batch reports. They might say on the batch report that every. The batch is 100 ballots. They might have written down that Joe Biden received 100 votes, which they did. We have the records. We see those batch reports. Then you look behind and start counting the balance. And what you see is that Biden didn't get 100. Everybody else got zero. You know, Trump got some. The Green Party got some.
Unidentified Government Official
Yeah.
Cleta Mitchell
And that, that we have several. Many of those who signed that, who wrote that. They want the names of everybody who worked on that recount. And. And we'll find the people who falsified those reports and anybody who served as a precinct manager, assistant manager. So to find out what happened and why those tabulator tapes weren't signed. It's a really brilliant move. And of course, I, I'm sure that. Well, they are. They're just. Their hair is on fire. To think that somebody would dare to ask the. Who is actually working on the election.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, Hang on for one second. Jason Frazier, are you outside the grand jury taking photographs? I know you've been fighting this one for a Long time. Do we. We're gonna have photos of the guilty.
Unidentified Analyst or Commentator
Excuse me.
Steve Bannon
They're not guilty of the accused, sir.
Jason Frazier
You know, I really thought about driving down there because I was. I was given an email the night before this was supposed to start, and I'm like, you know, I'm about 45 minutes from there. I could. I could sit in the parking lot and just. Just see who walks in, but I. I opted not to. But I. I mean, Cleta hit the nail on the head on a lot of these. But one thing I wanted to, I mean, if I could ask him questions, I'd like to know where this water main break was. I think we've, all of us in Atlanta have been looking around, walking down through the streets, and I've seen water main breaks. I didn't see a puddle on the ground. I didn't see, you know, the asphalt torn up. You know, who is making up these stories? Who knew there were double scanned ballots? When did they know? You know, who approved that? It doesn't just happen naturally. Who approved turning off the. The. The ballot signature verification. That's a big deal. I mean, who thought it was okay to have a Nigerian national that was transferring the. The electronic data on election day in Fulton County? He wasn't an American citizen. He was a Nigerian national. Why on earth would you do that? I mean, you want to talk about a country that has a history of, let's just say, not above board activities, that's it. So I would like to ask a lot of questions, but, I mean, when it really comes down to it, the timing of this during a primary election would make me want to be honest if I were a shady character. So it just raises the. The eyes. It. It puts some pressure. And let's be honest, we need to get to the bottom of this. People that say we need to move on, well, if I robbed a bank five years ago, they'd still be looking for me. We need to fix this. We need to. To figure out what happens. That way we can trust our elections moving forward.
Steve Bannon
It's the biggest crime in the history of the United States, stealing a presidential election. Everything that Biden did was illegitimate, as we said. From the very first moment he had that phony inauguration with like 15 people showing up. He was an illegitimate regime. Cleta, I just want to reemphasize. So you got Dan Bishop. This is a criminal grand jury, Correct? They're not calling people in there because of some civil thing or that this is a criminal grand jury. They are investigating federal crimes. Correct?
Cleta Mitchell
Ma', am, that is what they are charged with doing. Yes. You know, that we used to have. There still exists, but it's basically been depopulated. The Office of Public Integrity and at the Department of Justice, and it was their responsibility to investigate election crimes and to prosecute election crimes. But of course, that is the office that Jack Smith came from. And that office became a hotbed of left wing activism. So this Justice Department under President Trump, they've decided to, to vest the responsibility for prosecuting those election crimes in one U.S. attorney, and that is Dan Bishop. That's who they've selected. And so I know that he is working on building up the capacity. And he stepped into this after the search warrant was issued, after all the records and ballots were seized. And so he's trying to piece together everything that happened in 2020. And I think that this idea, this move to talk not just to the people at the top, not to the people who ran the scheme and covered it up for five years, but to talk to the people on the ground who are actually doing the work, and nobody's ever talked to them. I'll tell you what this does show, Steve. This just demonstrates that it was intentional and that there was never any investigation. This is something the Justice Department of the United States of America should have done immediately in January of 2021, and they didn't do it. And now it's being reconstructed five years later. It really is irritating that it wasn't done before.
Steve Bannon
Irritating is not done before. But the Justice Department was illegitimate. Right. With. Under Merrick Garland. And you had. Hang on. So Jason Frazier, why hasn't the state of Georgia. You got camp, you got all these highfalutin country club Republicans down there. Why did they never lift a finger? And now they're doing the exact same thing on redistricting. Why is the state of Georgia, which is one of the most MAGA states, you've got so many great patriots down there. It's the railhead of so much, but it was worth stolen. Where's the, where's the responsibility for the, for the, for the state officials, sir?
Jason Frazier
You know, it's been very frustrating as a Georgia resident. Down here. We've got Brad Raffensperger, who has done nothing except go around and say we have the cleanest voter rolls in the country, but not do anything to fix our elections. We've got Kemp that, you know, he is supposedly Republican too. And we have sanctuary cities. We've had illegals flying through the airport. He allowed Fannie Willis to do her thing and we haven't had a single election integrity bill passed through the legislature in the last two years. So we've got problems here.
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Jason Frazier
War room.
Mark Beal
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Clita Mitchell, why we, Dan Bishop and a federal grand criminal grand jury were doing that. Why you know Merrick Garland wasn't going to do this because it exposed how they got in office illegally as an illegitimate regime. Why didn't Brian Kemp and all these big shots down in Georgia lift a finger on this exact topic for years, Ma'.
Cleta Mitchell
Am, because they were part of the steal. They were part of it. You know, Brian Kent would not lift a finger when we brought Brad Raffensperger wouldn't lift a finger. Chris Carr wouldn't lift a finger. All of these constitutional offers, Jeff Duncan who was lieutenant governor at the time, he was out on CNN every day attacking Trump after the election. And you know you have people down there that they, they were, they wanted Trump not to be elected, to be reelected. And then Brian Kemp, a couple people took to him this data about these problems where you have fake, you have votes, votes, but there are no people associated with those votes. And, and he could have that moment, that moment he could have and even his staff confirmed it. They sent a, a complaint over to the state election board about a year later and after the, in 2021, early 2022, saying investigate this, he could have the governor has the authority to refer anything to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, and he didn't do it.
Steve Bannon
You're applying the Rathensburg and Duncan and Kemp are going to be rolled up in this criminal investigation. Is that your implication? So let's just say it. Do you believe that?
Cleta Mitchell
No, I don't know that. I don't know. Because the thing about it is. I know, I know.
Steve Bannon
If you're saying if they knew. If they knew there was this information, they didn't turn it over to be investigated. That's a crime. That's absolutely a crime. A government official. A government official that saw information that led to a massive stealing of a federal election for the presidency and looked the other way and buried it. You don't think that's a crime?
Cleta Mitchell
Well, I think that the things that Brad Raffensperger did in advance of the election, I don't know. I don't know if they're criminal, Steve. I mean, that's the problem that we, you know, we need. We need more. We need the facts of it. I know that he covered everything up, but I. We found out after the election that he had all these ACLU people that he brought in. We found out after the election, and some of this, we found out a year, two years later about how all of these batches, these batch reports were just wrong. They're deliberate. That's not an accident. Somebody doesn't say on a batch report. Here are the results in this batch. And put 100 for Joe Biden, zero for anybody else.
Steve Bannon
That's. That's an action. That's. That's an act of commission. I know, but he was accountable. Anyway. We'll find out. But Dan Bishop brought a call in. Kemp, you're calling the Ratzenberger, Duncan, all of them. Rathensberger's, Mini Me, that guy. Bring them all in. Right. That whole rogues gallery. And they ought to start.
Cleta Mitchell
Start with Kim, vote against these people.
Steve Bannon
I got that. I got. I got that. Stop, stop, stop. I got that. Of course we're going to vote against them. They got to be held accountable in a criminal court. What they did was crimes down there because they wanted Trump gone. And just, hey, let's get him in front of a grand jury and we'll see. Khalida, where do people go? You keep him. Do what?
Cleta Mitchell
The one thing is great about this is, remember, when you're doing the best criminal investigation, they start with the small people. The people. And then they work their way.
Mark Beal
Exactly.
Cleta Mitchell
That's what brilliant.
Steve Bannon
Because those people.
Cleta Mitchell
What?
Steve Bannon
Because they're Going to flip those. They're going to flip those guys. They're going to tell these clerks, hey, you're going to spend eight years in a federal prison. And unless you cough up exactly what happened here. And you're going to see him. You're going to see him. You're going to see them chirping. Where do people go, Ma'? Am.
Cleta Mitchell
At Cleta Mitchell on X and visit our website on the election integritynetwork.org and we're getting ready to publish model election laws handbook developed over the last years by volunteers all over the country. That is the gold standard for what these election laws need to say. And then to make sure that we start having integrity in our elections again, thanks to the volunteers and the patriots all over this country, the way you
Steve Bannon
start having integrity in elections is send Kemp to prison. You send Kemp to prison, people start saying, hey, I got to pay attention this. I can't be. I can't Beethoven. I want the big fish. I want the Bush operative. He's a Bush operative. Remember, he's Secretary of State for eight years. He's the Bush operative in Georgia. And Georgia should be ashamed of themselves. Thank you, ma'. Am. Jason Frazier. Where do people go to keep up with all the great content you're putting up, sir?
Jason Frazier
Yeah, you can follow me on X at Jason Frazier, usa.
Steve Bannon
Is it too. Is it. Is. Do I have a. Too big a reach there to think that Kemp and Raethensburg will get rolled up in this, sir?
Jason Frazier
You know, I really hope they will. And. And I wouldn't stop there. I mean, Gabe Sterling, he's. He's running for Secretary of State. He was right in it. These are people that cannot win. They need to. They need to go away.
Steve Bannon
No Cletus writing that. Frazier, you're fantastic. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
Jason Frazier
Thank you, Michael.
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Date: May 6, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Mark Beal, Michael Patrick Leahy, Cleta Mitchell, Jason Frazier
This episode centers on three main themes:
Throughout, Bannon and his guests maintain a confrontational, populist tone, framing events as parts of existential struggles for the future of America and the MAGA movement.
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This episode is an in-depth look at MAGA movement narratives around geopolitical leverage, the perils and power of AI, tactical legal mapmaking, and the lasting aftershocks of 2020. The tone is urgent, often combative, and aimed at mobilizing listeners against political and technological adversaries.