Episode 5358: Huge Victory In Virginia, Judge Strikes Down Dems Redistricting Efforts Cont. Stopping The AI Oligarchs From Stealing Humanity

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5358

Episode Title: Huge Victory In Virginia, Judge Strikes Down Dems Redistricting Efforts; Cont. Stopping The AI Oligarchs From Stealing Humanity
Date: May 8, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Brian Glenn, Delois Stallman, Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell, Kobe Bloomfield Gans

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Overview

Episode 5358 of Bannon’s War Room centers on several critical events:

• A significant legal victory in Virginia against Democratic redistricting efforts, attributed to grassroots activism
• The evolving political power struggle over artificial intelligence (AI) regulation and the efforts to curb “AI oligarchs”
• Reflections from departing White House correspondent Brian Glenn about the MAGA movement’s media ecosystem
• Practical advice on Medicare decisions in the digital era

The tone is celebratory regarding grassroots wins, combative regarding AI and establishment politics, and reflective on movement media and activism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Virginia Court Victory: A Grassroots Uprising

Timestamps: 16:31–28:14

• Context: The Virginia Supreme Court overturned what Bannon dubs a “Jerry rigged” redistricting map backed by Democrats, marking a pivotal moment for grassroots GOP activists.
• Grassroots Mobilization: Delois Stallman, a leader in Virginia MAGA activism, details how the movement overcame multiple setbacks—party disarray, negative media, opposition money, and electoral skepticism.
• Legal Nuances: The Court’s opinion emphasized constitutional rigor in election amendments and criticized state arguments favoring flexible “election day” interpretations given the prevalence of 45-day early voting.
  • Quote (Stallman, 22:45):
    “It was rich for the Commonwealth to come in on oral arguments and to argue that election day is a single day when these dirt balls have created a nightmare in Virginia of a 45 day early voting process.”
• Lessons for Activists: Stallman urges listeners nationwide—“get involved locally,” recognizing power levers even within imperfect party structures.
  • Quote (Stallman, 25:53):
    “You have to understand what the apparatus is in your immediate area and you have to jump into that, because whether you like how it operates or not, they do have certain power levers.”
• Recognition from Host: Bannon attributes the legal win to a “self-organizing” grassroots network and draws parallels with similar recent victories in Texas and Tennessee.

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2. The AI Power Struggle: Oligarchs vs. Regulation

Timestamps: 16:31–41:21

• Background: The show turns to the latest turbulence in AI governance, especially the internal White House debates about pending executive orders on AI safety and oversight.
• Shift in DC Sentiment: Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell from The Daily Signal reveals that, contrary to the wishes of “accelerationist” Silicon Valley titans (ex: David Sacks), there’s now bipartisan momentum for stricter AI controls.
  • Quote (Mitchell, 33:29):
    “There is a lot of division, a lot of disagreement in the administration about what exactly this executive order should do...It's likely that we'll have not just one, maybe multiple executive orders...the substance is currently in flux.”
• The Mythos Model and Safety Concerns: Bannon and Mitchell cite the “Mythos” AI model’s hacking abilities as a game-changing threat, sparking new urgency among officials and leading bankers to fear catastrophic financial cyber attacks.
• International Angle: Anticipated US-China AI talks (post Beijing visit) are poised to factor heavily in regulatory outcomes; both speakers view this as a turning point away from Silicon Valley boosterism.
  • Quote (Mitchell, 37:28):
    “The reason for AI innovation that we repeatedly hear from these accelerationists is that it's necessary to have as few guardrails as possible so that we can beat China...Having a conversation about this is an extremely interesting update.”
• Populist Pushback: Bannon excoriates ‘tech oligarchs,’ especially those with China ties (naming Peter Thiel, Jensen Huang, etc.), and insists only “adults” from outside Silicon Valley should be trusted to set policy.
  • Quote (Bannon, 41:07):
    “…the future of our species depends upon this…You’re not to be trusted with artificial intelligence. Full stop.”

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3. Media and Movement: Brian Glenn’s Farewell

Timestamps: 10:22–15:00

• Backstory: Brian Glenn recounts his journey from being fired (for opposing Covid mandates) to covering hundreds of MAGA rallies, and then White House reporting for Real America’s Voice (RAV).
  • Quote (Glenn, 10:47):
    “I was fired for basically speaking out against Covid and the lockdowns and the mask mandates and the vaccine mandates. Right. In 2019, I got fired from that job, switched over and got picked up by Right Side Broadcasting.”
• Movement Media Power: Glenn highlights how alternative media platforms, by giving a “voice to the people,” were pivotal to the America First movement.
• Personal Impact: Glenn pays homage to the “War Room” intro as a source of hope and explains the significance of grassroots community in both media and politics.
  • Quote (Glenn, 11:47):
    “If you want this country to be saved, then this country will be saved. If you're willing, if you think it's possible to do it, just a mustard seed of hope, then it can happen.”

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4. Medicare & Data: Cutting Through Complexity

Timestamps: 45:07–51:56

• Innovation Example: Bannon speaks with Kobe Bloomfield Gans, founder of Chapter, about leveraging data transparency to help seniors navigate the notoriously opaque Medicare system.
• Complexity Problem: Even experts can’t comprehend the full maze of options, costs, and eligibility—something Gans says took him “a year or two” to fully learn for his own mother.
• Solution: Chapter offers free consultations, using comprehensive data models to predict drug and plan costs with precision.
  • Quote (Gans, 46:41):
    “No one has been able to create a data model, really a data set that has all this information and that makes it available to people so that they can get the best healthcare for the lowest possible cost.”
• Call to Action: Listeners can call 845-WAR-ROOM for personalized, data-driven Medicare advice.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon’s Opening Statement (00:02):
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.”
• Brian Glenn on MAGA’s Media Mission (08:38):
  “We’re not our enemy. The left, the radical left, the person who shot Charlie Kirk, that’s our enemy. This is a time…to step back from the noise of the world and just really reflect…that you live in the greatest country in the world.”
• Bannon on Tech Oligarchs and AI (41:21):
  “…Jensen Huang is an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party. And Buzzkirk and everybody supports that aspect of it, you’re just as bad…You’re not to be trusted with artificial intelligence. Full stop…”
• Delois Stallman on Grassroots Power (20:32):
  “Everything was against us…you really heard from Virginians like myself when nobody else wanted to hear that we even had a chance. And you took an opportunity to come here and…gave us a platform.”
• Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell on Policy Dynamics (33:29):
  “It’s unclear what exactly people are going to land on. But…[an] FDA-style approval regime…caused a lot of negative reaction from the tech industry saying that this would slow tech innovation down and prevent the US from beating China.”
• Kobe Gans on Health Economics (49:59):
  “There’s a professor of health economics at Stanford University who said that he had a hard time signing up for Medicare…So it really does take experts unfortunately. But that’s really why we’re here.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening and political developments: 00:02–03:21
• Brian Glenn’s White House/RAV sendoff: 06:17–15:00
• Virginia legal/redistricting victory, grassroots analysis: 16:31–28:14
• AI governance, policy debates, and tech industry feuds: 29:52–41:21
• Medicare data innovation and advice: 45:07–51:56

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Where to Find and Follow

• Brian Glenn: @BrianGlennTV across social media; Truth Social: @Brian
• Delois Stallman: Getter: @Delois
• Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell: @theelizmitchell on X; reporting at DailySignal.com
• Kobe Bloomfield Gans/Chapter: Medicare advice at 845-WAR-ROOM

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This episode stands out for its inside look at grassroots-driven election victories, vivid critique of AI industry power dynamics, and optimism about activist media’s national influence—all underscored by energetic, populist storytelling and practical calls to action.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Brian Glenn]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Brian Glenn]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. Friday 8th May, year of our Lord 2026. Amazing, amazing, amazing day. For all the Warren Posse, all the work you've done. We got a lot more to do, Louisiana and South Carolina today. Make sure go to Rand, get the numbers. Let's get on the ramparts because we have momentum now. Brian Glenn joins us from the White House. Brian, what is happening at noon today? There's, when we finish here at the War Room, we're tossing the Charlie Kirk, but I believe we're going to go to the Rose Garden, sir.

[Brian Glenn]

That's right, Steve. And I haven't got any confirmation from the Trump team here exactly the nature of this 12 o' clock president Trump Rose Garden event. But I will say this was outside of the White House at Starbucks earlier with some colleagues. And I was approached by two angel moms that wanted to thank me for being on the network. Thank you for, you know, being out for the rallies and all. It was a fan of Rav and a fan of yours, too. And she said, we're here for an event at the White House. We're angel moms. So I'm just making the assumption that the event at noon is circles around kind of a Mother's Day event, if you will, for angel's mom. Just speculation on that. And then earlier a cartoon of kind of containers went by here down pebble beach, went down to the back door. I was told those were flowers. So I would imagine the angel moms are going to get a special flower today from the President.

[Steve Bannon]

That's amazing, Brian. Yesterday it was, it's kind of unusual. Lula shows up. Normally we do the Brian Glenn. You see him showing up and then, and then you guys are right outside the oval. Then they let you in the Oval. And of course, Brian always gets a question right as they're sitting there for their bilat. And then after the president says some stuff, the other leader says some stuff. There's some smart questions from the, from the press cord led by yourself. And then we president answers some of these, he makes some news, everybody leaves and they have the longer meeting and maybe a lunch. And then later, maybe there's a more formal. That was supposed to be what was happening yesterday, but the president got in there and I don't know, was hanging out with Lula. Next thing you know, they have a quick bite to eat, Lula's gone. No press. No press avail. That is so important before the Chinese meeting coming up. What's your sense of what happened yesterday?

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, Steve, it actually, for me, it started a little bit before that when I walked by the Blair house and there was no Brazilian national flag on the Blair House. And I come to find out later that the visit yesterday was not enough, quote, an official state visit. So therefore, I guess the protocol was not to stay at the Blair house. So that's number one. Number two, there was not any kind of color guard greeting here along pebble beach in front of the West Wing. That was flag number two. And then when we're standing outside the briefing room doors, we were on STANDBY at about 11:15, we were, you know, kind of, we got ready to go in and then we stood there for probably an hour and a half and finally a message went out that said, hey, there's no need to gather right now. We'll let you know when you're going to, you know, we're going to call for you. We went back in the pre. In the briefing room. And then probably, I don't know, Steve, maybe two and a half hours later, I'm watching the Brazilian press just pack up. They've all got this synchronized email. They're all looking at their phones and we were wondering what's going on. We asked one of them, they said, meeting's over, he's leaving. No press, no press. And they packed up and left. Now, what I was told was, is that Lula had somehow negotiated, or maybe it was part of the deal to do the meet with the press towards the end of his visit. Not necessarily off the top. Like, if you remember, Zelinsky entered the doors behind me, went through the West Wing, went into the Oval Office. And then probably about eight to ten minutes later is when they usher in the foreign press and the White House poll press. And, and then we do the spray, we do the questions, we do the Q and A, we do the Whole typical two chairs set up in between the fireplace in between. That did not happen. That was negotiated towards the end of the visit. So by the time Steve, they go meet and eat, there's no time for the press. And Lula said, I'm out. And that was it. From what I've been told, he did do a press conference at the embassy.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Glenn]

I guess just with the, with the travel. Yeah, with the traveling. But there was no interactions. Yeah, no interaction with American press.

[Steve Bannon]

I think President Trump size that one up pretty quickly. Did President Trump caught, let's say this, call an audible. Right. Brian, as you know, I tell you what, today's a very special day. Besides being the commemoration of the victory in Europe in 1945. And of course, big, huge wins by Nigel Farage. The Reform Party crushes labor in England. A massive victory here in the Commonwealth of Virginia with the overturning of that Jerry rigged map. And of course, victories in Tennessee. Soon to be victories in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina. Hopefully they're big as they are. Let's play. We've got a, we got a, we got a homage. Let's call it. We're going to play right now. And then bring Brian Glenn. The Brian Glenn. And on the other side.

[Brian Glenn]

Hi, America, it's Brian Glenn. I am excited to announce that I'm coming here to real America's Voice. Let's go.

[Delois Stallman]

Brian Glenn.

[Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell]

Brian, go ahead.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian, go ahead.

[Brian Glenn]

Brian, go ahead. Brian.

[Delois Stallman]

Brian, go ahead. We'll go to. Oh, look at some friends in the back. Brian, you didn't show up early enough to get some good real estate up here.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm very impressed that you asked that question because nobody knew that. We love you, Brian.

[Brian Glenn]

Oh, I love you too. Okay.

[Steve Bannon]

He's a good man.

[Brian Glenn]

Brian. Brian Glenn.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian Glenn. Brian, welcome.

[Brian Glenn]

Why don't you wear a suit? Why don't you wear a suit? You're the high school level in this country's office and you refuse to wear a suit. Do you own a suit?

[Steve Bannon]

Maybe something like yours?

[Brian Glenn]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

Maybe some, something better. I, I don't know.

[Brian Glenn]

I like that guy.

[Steve Bannon]

Now that's called a question. And he's a great reporter.

[Brian Glenn]

Actually, President Zinsky had a little bit of fun with me as well. Yeah, look, you look good.

[Steve Bannon]

I said the same thing.

[Delois Stallman]

President Zelensky in the same suit.

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

I think you see, I changed.

[Brian Glenn]

You are. But you know.

[Steve Bannon]

Hello.

[Brian Glenn]

There you go. You're popular. Yeah, thank you very much. You know what? Here, hold this microphone.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, gosh.

[Brian Glenn]

Here we go. Oh, my, oh, my God. Look at that, I owe Brian Glenn five bucks. I owe him five bucks. I love it. Is that a 5:00am shoot? I need some more of those. We're headed to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. We finally made it to Switzerland. Great state of Alaska here in Davos. There's the wall. There's Mexico. That way, at MetLife Stadium, waiting for President Trump. These two characters right here. We're in the DC Studio. Surprise stand over here in the corner. In the corner. This is the corner. It's a good corner.

[Delois Stallman]

Good afternoon, everybody. Good to see you all.

[Brian Glenn]

To be here covering it is a blessing of a lifetime.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian, you got a second one?

[Brian Glenn]

Truck was right about everything. You got a forehead like this. It collects a lot of moisture and a lot of sun right here in Arizona. Thanks. Keep watching. Thank you very much.

[Delois Stallman]

Turn off the camera.

[Brian Glenn]

This is a time within our party, we have so many people that are so fractured on one side of the party. The other side of party, we're arguing about percentages and debt ceilings and all this stuff. We're not our enemy. The left, the radical left, the person who shot Charlie Kirk, that's our enemy. This is a time, at least for me, to try to step back from the noise of the world and just really reflect on what you have. Your health, your family, your friends, your opportunities, and that you live in the greatest country in the world. I'm very thankful for Real America's Voice. I'm thankful for this network and its commitment to not only supporting the White House and supporting President Trump, but also supporting faith and freedom and family. That's what this network is all about. This past Sunday, sitting at home in Georgia, and I decided that it's time to. And I'll use a MMA reference. It's time to leave the gloves in the ring and walk away. The people of Real America's Voice, they are just not the owners of a conservative news outlet that love this country. They genuinely love their employees. They are one of the best companies. They are the best company that I've ever worked for.

[Steve Bannon]

A very appropriate, very appropriate homage to Brian Glenn. Brian, first off, this journey started even before Rav. Tell me about the old days of right side broadcasting. You individually have had to have been at more Trump rallies. How many years, right side? You were there three or four years?

[Brian Glenn]

About three and a half years. I think I may have the record for the most Trump rallies to cover. But, you know, Steve, I.

[Steve Bannon]

This.

[Brian Glenn]

This is. And this is kind of an inspiration to anybody watching us that works in. In corporate television. I was fired for basically Speaking out against Covid and the lockdowns and the mass mandates and the vaccine mandates. Right. In 2019, I got fired from that job, switched over and got picked up by Right side Broadcasting. Came across them on Facebook, streaming the rallies. I was like, I want to get involved with that.

[Steve Bannon]

And I did.

[Brian Glenn]

And it was a great company, toured all across the country doing that. After the 2020 election, Steve, do you remember how many people just were so afraid to talk about election integrity and all the discrepancies? Doug Mastriano at the time was running for governor, invited me to Harrisburg, I think, to basically sit on one of these public Senate hearings on election integrity. That was Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona. We went to all of them and of course Georgia too. So I was involved with all of that. And then that course went into the midterms, the Kerry Lake running for governor. We were all over Arizona for that. But it's. It's really, Steve, and I'm telling you this, and I don't think I've ever told you this in person. You're open to war room about if you want this country to be saved, then this country will be saved. If you're will, if you think it's possible to do it, just a mustard seed of hope, then it can happen. I used to tear up, Steve, every single time I heard that open. If I was home alone or if I'm on the road or watching on my phone, on a plane, I would get a tear in my eye every single time that war room open would play. I mean that. And I was kind of tearing up and open before we came on here. What you have done to maga, this America first movement, right after Covid, you led the way to just step aside and take the fight head on. Whether it was politically against vaccine mandates, all that stuff. Steve, you were the fighter. You were the leader.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, I had the easiest job. I had a great production staff, producers, I sit in front of a mic. But it's guys like you, Brian. This is why I would go back to right side broadcast and a raf. Brian Glenn has been a road work brother. You have been. First off, you've dominated the White House. But the years leading up to that, those are what, from 2019? Those are five or six hard years of on the road reporting and really showing the power of this movement. The power of the movement was those rallies. The power of the movement were those people. You would do those interviews, you would go down. What I loved about it, you weren't there just for the big shots. You were there to go into the lines and talk to the folks out there and let MAGA basically have an open mic. That was the power of it. That was the power of what you did for years.

[Brian Glenn]

No, and you're right. And it's interesting. We've got a news crew here that's been kind of documenting me my last day. And they asked me, why do people come up to you so much? And I said, because we're relatable. We're not like the guys that maybe sit up and down, no offense to people that sit on legacy news, but they don't have a true connection to the people. Like the people at Real America's Voice. All the personalities, Amanda Head, all of them. Ben Berkoff, all of them, I can't even to me and Mitch, they're the ones that made the connection. Rob Sig, Parker Sig. Amazing. God bless the entire Rav family for taking a guy like me on the staff and let me do what I do. And thank you to all the viewers for allowing me to come in your homes. And thanks for. Hey, you know me, Steve, I scrap a little bit in the comment section. I'll mix it up a little bit. It's okay. We can all disagree on some stuff. We can all disagree. But at the end, at the end of the day, we all love this country. And I, I love the audience. So thank you so much. War Room Posse, until next time. Goodbye. God bless, Steve. We'll see you.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. What's your, what's your handle? What's your social media? Where do people follow you?

[Brian Glenn]

Yep. You can follow me today at Brian Glenn TV across the board at Brian on Truth Social. And I'm going to try to document as much as I can today on this final day here at the White House. But it may not, you know, may not be the last time you see me. I love you guys. Anything for Rav. I appreciate it.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Brian Glenn]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, home tide lock. We're going to talk about artificial intelligence in a moment. Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell is going to join us from the Daily Signal. There's an executive order I think banging around in the White House. You've heard Scott Bessant talk about, you know, we need to have safety. You've heard I think Susie Wiles tweeted out something the other night about safety. Those are important words. Those words won't spoke when, when David Sachs the czar was around it was all accelerationist. Accelerationist, accelerationist. Maybe next week there in Beijing we can notify Xi. Hey, guess what? No more chips. No more 350,000 students here studying engineering and computer science and elect, you know, double E. No more. No more people in our labs, no more people in our companies. Nobody. No ecosystem, no debt, no equity, zero, nada. You get nothing. Let's do that. Let's. Let's shut down the Chinese Communist Party about AI Then we can also worry about safety here. We don't have to be decelerationist. Although I am proud to say that I am a decelerationist. When you compare it to the alternative, the accelerationist which is nothing but the berlooks anyway. Couldn't be more important where we get her up and go through that. The now with artificial intelligence and cyber the combo. That's what this mythos is about. From anthropic and now that you have recursive, you know the recursive process where it's writing itself where you can't control it whatsoever. Your home title, remember 90% of your net worth is tight if you're lucky enough to own a house and every dream you've ever had is in that house, don't let it become a nightmare. It can become a nightmare quickly if somebody gets their hands on your Title and monetizes it. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve we try to keep it simple. You get a free Natalie Dominguez team will set you up for a free trial two weeks, one million dollar triple lock protection. You can see how it works. Then you come to the decision of hey, for pennies a day maybe I take this one and just check the box and get it off my plate. Let me do that. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve Love the. I guess it's a product or a service but it'll take, it'll take your angst away. Deloa Stallman and you represent the best of the best of the grassroots movement throughout this country, the MAGA movement and particularly in the Commonwealth of Virginia. What you folks did was awe inspiring. You know coming out of Texas where it was awe inspiring there I said man, if we could light the match we've seen in Texas throughout the country. And you guys, it was actually worse to a degree because you were so buried in negative publicity. This is. They're going to win by 20 points. They got unlimited money. They're going to spend $50 million. They got this governor who ran as a moderate, the CIA operative that now shows she's a radical. The odds were against you. Plus you had had a total complete collapse of Youngkin and the establishment Republican Party in the Commonwealth of Virginia in November. Total disarray. But you guys in a self organizing manner really came and gave the fight of really this year and I think inspired, I think Judge Hurley and others to say we really got to take a hard look at this. And today the Commonwealth Supreme Court stood up and gave a historic decision. And that decision is in large measure because of the great grassroots efforts of you and these other self organizing MAGA grassroots leaders. And I just can't speak highly enough. Give us your thoughts today on something. You guys fought so long and hard again and the odds were long and there were a lot of nights you were looking over the abyss. How does it feel like today, ma'? Am?

[Delois Stallman]

It is glorious. I gotta tell you in you know, just in getting the news immediately, which everybody's know, refresh button is worn out for the last several days. Just like incessantly refreshing that Supreme Court opinion page. But yeah, you're, you're right. I mean really everything was against us. And you know, I know that in bringing Jeff onto the war room a lot of people don't understand that the Republican Party last year was also in a bit of disarray. We had four different chairmen in a span of 10 months. And what Jeff was able to do in an empowerment position of really giving the grassroots a lot of access to data and assistance, we went from meeting once every three months to having weekly strategy calls. So I applaud Jeff for leading the charge. Absolutely. On that, which trickled down to the unit chairman like myself and other people to feel like somebody did have our back. And, you know, I was just texting with Jeff about the war room, just to underscore also what Brian said about you. You really heard from Virginians like myself when nobody else wanted to hear that we even had a chance. And you took an opportunity to come here and you believed in what we were doing and you got behind us and you gave us a platform. So for that I am especially grateful. The momentum that came out of that really did light the match in the grassroots for people to deliver on the plan that came out of the rpb. So I did read the opinion. It is beautiful. In true Virginia legal fashion, it goes back to George Wythe and Madison. And I don't know if you want me to get into the opinion at all, but the requirements for amending the Constitution, it's a high bar for a reason. There is a divorce between legislators and the voters, and there ought to be. And so that deliberative process has a lot of hurdles that the Commonwealth did not meet. The opinion goes and talks about the word election as a noun and electing as a verb. It was rich for the Commonwealth to come in on oral arguments and to argue that election day is a single day when these dirt balls have created a nightmare in Virginia of a 45 day early voting process. So there was discussion in the arguments about election as a noun and election as a verb. And they did take a lot of time in this opinion to sort of shove it in the face of the Commonwealth that you can't argue it both ways. And that historically, Virginia did canvass vicera throughout the countryside. They canvassed votes. It took multiple days. And that electing is a process in which the citizen chooses things. And so for 45 days, 1.3 million ballots had already been cast in Virginia. And the requirement to amend the Constitution to conduct an intervening election, it was not met at all. And it was insulting for the Commonwealth to come in and argue that to the Supreme Court that the people who had already cast ballots in early voting had somehow forfeited their opportunity to weigh in on a constitutional amendment. That was one of the highlights of the opinion. And yeah, I think that's. That's probably the most, the most powerful argument that was in this case was just that the election was not. There was no intervening election.

[Steve Bannon]

Lois. We had this situation in Texas with the, with the, the shrill law, the 2 million votes to prohibit that. It put a fire under Paxton. My understanding now is President Trump still wrestling with that? There's a poll out that shows Paxson. There's one poll shows him up 3 to 5. There's another poll shows him up 11. The grassroots on fire. The Commonwealth of Virginia, what you folks did, totally self organizing now in Tennessee, as the US Supreme Court's come out, you've seen in Tennessee, the grassroots are now all over in Louisiana and in South Carolina, because we're at 212 right now with Florida and the reversal of Virginia. So within striking distance of holding the House, what lessons would you tell grassroots around the country you can derive from the experience of these victories of the grassroots? Every one of them was beyond long odds. Paxton was written off. The shrill law thing was considered a joke. We didn't have a shot on reversing any of these. Everybody said, oh, it's too late. You know, the Supreme Court justice slow walked it enough. Virginia's going to be going to be a 20 point blowout. What would you tell the grassroots in the country, looking at the momentum we have of where their focus should be?

[Delois Stallman]

Well, I mean, one thing is that people really just have to get involved. You have to understand what the apparatus is in your immediate area and you have to jump into that because whether you like how it operates or not, they do have certain power levers. So, you know, get involved in your local committee, if you have a Tea Party group or whatever you might have, where people do go and create a group of influence. So I would say that's probably the primary goal, is just to make yourself useful in this fight. You would be surprised at how quickly you can navigate a system, especially a system of people who maybe are in the party or in those groups not to work, but maybe for a social reason, you can get in there very quickly. I mean, personally, I went from not involved at all to, you know, on this state board of directors and a committee chairman in very short order. So if I can do it, you can do it, number one. So I would say get involved. Can I say one more thing about the election, though? I mean, about this opinion?

[Steve Bannon]

Sure.

[Delois Stallman]

When I was on the war room before, I know we put up a graphic that showed how the 2020 constitutional amendment to create a nonpartisan redistrict commission had passed overwhelmingly. I think 67%. The first round of maps were conducted with that redistricting commission to a stalemate and ultimately the remedy for that was to take it to the Supreme Court. This this Supreme Court, in fact and part of the meat of the opinion was to remind the Commonwealth that this Supreme Court created nonpartisan districts at the will of the people. In the process in 2020 that was conducted constitutionally to amend the Constitution because that was the will of the voters. It was it was odd for the Commonwealth to think that they could go back to this very Supreme Court and ask ask them to overturn themselves and their maps.

[Steve Bannon]

They thought it was going to be a political delos. What's your social media? Where do people go and get more of your analysis and find out more about your efforts in the Commonwealth?

[Delois Stallman]

Sure, you can follow my Getter page, which is Delois. I want to I'm feverishly posting all

[Steve Bannon]

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[Brian Glenn]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Brian Glenn]

Am.

[Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell]

Yes, thanks for having me back. So this is going to be a different kind of executive order than what we've seen before. So the New York Times first reported that there was an executive order in the works on vetting all AI models before they're deploy. But my sources told me that there is a lot of division, a lot of disagreement in the administration about what exactly this executive order should do. That's likely that we'll have not just one, maybe multiple executive orders. And sources tell me that this will likely come in the next two weeks. But the substance is currently in flux and is the subject of live debate. So some people, instead of wanting to vet all AI models pre deployment, it sounds like what some people want is to vet, have that vetting for some AI models be a condition for government contracts. So that if you want to work with the government, you have to let the center for AI Safety within the Commerce Department review your model is what that would look like. So that's one option. Of course there's people who want more of a lighter touch. We have people who have that big tech background, venture capitalists like Shrim Krishnan, David Sachs, who of course has lost some of that influence that he previously had, they'd want the lighter touch. And so it's unclear what exactly people are going to land on. But I think when we saw Kevin Hassett go on Fox yesterday or the day before and say that he's considering the White House, is considering executive order with an FDA like approval regime, I think that of course caused a lot of negative reaction from the tech industry saying that this would slow tech innovation down and prevent the US from beating China. And I think the reaction to that has showed that this is unlikely to happen. With a tweet from Susie Wiles saying that the White House doesn't want to pick winners and losers. I think that indicates that it's unlikely we're going to get this FDA state style approval. But some sort of approval, perhaps with an incentive does seem to be on the table.

[Steve Bannon]

But here's the if you take the conversations that you're reporting on today in the New York Times, that is a massive shift. Once again, folks, we have shifted the conversation to our side. This is how you win. You're not going to get it. I keep telling people, particularly when you have power and money like the oligarchs, you just can't snap your fingers. You know, the podcast thinking just all get done. And that's not it's a process. Part of the process is to make sure you drag it over until you're talking on your side of the football. Now, we're actually going from an FDA that Kevin Hassett is talking about and Hassett is head of the president's Economic council. Wouldn't have mentioned that unless it's been discussed all the way to my idea of some sort of Atomic Regulatory Commission like we had on nuclear weapons, all the way to Bessant and even Susie talking about safety have to be vetted all the way to. You're going to have to have maybe Commerce Department vetting. That is a one that is a massive shift from these accelerationists that said, hey, David Sachs and all these guys walking around, all these big shots walking around last summer when they tried to jam it into the big beautiful bill that they say, hey, you're not going to have any say so in anything. We're supreme, we're all powerful, we're masters of the universe. So when you just listed those four or five different things are coming up, that is a massive shift. And hey, the oligarchs ain't happy about it. Okay. They are not happy about it. The Chris. Well, I'll get to that in a moment. In your reporting, you said there's either going to be an EO in a couple of weeks or maybe multiple EOs. I notice when I think about the critical path of Elizabeth, what we're doing that would be post the Beijing visit. Now, my understanding is that AI and Bessant is making this is going to be a central part of the discussions with the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing. How do you think that will influence what the White House is working on about these either the main executive order or these multiple executive orders made.

[Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell]

This is an extremely interesting point because the reason for AI innovation that we repeatedly hear from these accelerationists is that it's necessary to have as few guardrails as possible so that we can beat China. Because if we don't beat China, it's a huge national security crisis. And so I think the prospect of the president actually talking to the Chinese and Coming to some sort of agreement on this, having a conversation about this is an extreme, extremely interesting update. I think you're right that we have seen an absolutely massive shift from tweets, from David Sacks calling people who fear AI acceleration doomers and criticizing that sort of mentality to now with people like Scott Besant, Kevin Hassett, Susie Wiles, like you said, talking about the need for AI safety. And I think there are two things responsible for this, according to my sources. One, of course, is the Mythos model is concerning a lot of people because of its extreme, extreme hacking abilities. And this is just the beginning of the story. Many more models that are more powerful will come that cause even more of a threat. And I think that people like J.D. vance, Scott Besant take this threat very seriously. And they do not want a major cyber attack before midterms. The Trump administration will look like they didn't do anything about. So they want to make sure that they're doing something to make sure that this doesn't happen before midterms or any other time. And I think secondly, they really are just overall waking up to the dangers of this type of advancing emerging technology and the need to have some sort of, some sort of vetting, some sort of regulation about these things before they come out. And so I think this is a very interesting sign, very encouraging for a lot of people, that this is going to be a topic of conversation in Beijing.

[Steve Bannon]

When you say awakening, I think the awakening is that David Sacks and Christianis, the guy in the tech office, and these other people are not masters of the universe. They came to D.C. and they looked around D.C. and they said, hey, you know what? This is a place of total mediocrity. We're Silicon Valley. And don't get me wrong, I can't stand being in D.C. and I agree with them a lot of that. But there is a process, and particularly the process has to have the grassroots. They were so arrogant, they didn't think they had to bring along the MAGA base at all, which is 8515 against all of this, 8515 against data centers, against all of it. And all they're trying to do from the data centers and the local level to what they tried to do in these two amnesty bills and now three and now four, is to ram it down your throat with that. Because they just don't think people matter. They're not. They can give all the hat. They're all transhumanists. They do not care about the little guy. Because at the end of the day, humans are just so much problem for them. Right. And you can see it. And they're getting, they're getting bitch slapped. Let me be when, when you talk about what's in your report and you look at we're here in May of 2026 when they thought all this stuff would be behind them, they thought they'd be fully on an accelerationist path. And when you mentioned Hassett, Besson and Wiles, those three individuals don't come from the tech world, they come from. Susie comes from politics, particularly in Florida state politics. And Bessant and Hassett come from the capital markets and from Wall Street. And understand and particularly when banks are going up to having meetings with Bessant, say the way we look at this, we may be evaporated as a money center bank in about 30, 30 seconds. That's a problem. That's a problem that adults like Kevin Hassett and Scott Bessant have to deal with. Liz, this is of all the great stuff you're breaking, this is by far I think the most important because the future of our species depends upon this. And so between now and China and there's so much in the next couple of weeks, please think of us when you're putting these up. We'd love to have you back on, man.

[Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell]

Thanks so much. Great to be here.

[Steve Bannon]

Liz, where do people track you, what's the social media and where they get you? Over at the Daily Signal, you can

[Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell]

read my [e-mail] and follow me on X theelizmitchell.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, ma'.

[Delois Stallman]

Am.

[Steve Bannon]

Appreciate you.

[Delois Stallman]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

I don't know if we have the article we can put up. Maybe we can put it up. So Chris Buskirk in the Mini Oligarchs over at American Greatness put up a piece the other day on yours truly about how I was going against the President's plan of, you know, about China and making sure that industrially our tech guys had this market, had this market opportunity. And you know, I was terrible because I wasn't support. You damn right I'm not supporting it. And it's total BS and a lie. Here's what the facts are. Jensen Huang and Buzz Kirk and J.D. vance and Peter Thiel and Karp and all these guys are in bed with China and the Chinese Communist Party Party. They want to make bigger profits by selling to the Chinese Communist Party. You can't sit there and whine, oh, we have to be. You can't have any safeguards at all. You can't do anything because we're losing the race of the Chinese Communist Party when you're funding the ability of the Chinese Communist Party to compete with us. The Chinese Communist Party should have no access to any chips, they shouldn't have access to any universities, they shouldn't have access to any companies, they shouldn't have access to any equity, any debt, any pension fund money, any venture capital. Right? None of it. We should cut them off and choke them down because they are not a competitor to the United States of America. They are a mortal enemy to Lao, Beijing, the Chinese people. They're a mortal enemy to the American people and they're a mortal enemy to our country. Full stop. And you damn right I don't support it. In fact, I'm the opposite of support it. I want to tear it down. Jensen Huang is a agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party. And Buzzkirk and everybody supports that aspect of it. You're just as bad. So you want to come at me? Come harder. Dude, don't, don't put up some Grundoon article. He doesn't support you Damn right I don't support it. I don't support it because it's dead wrong. And we are kicking your ass on this issue of AI. You've wanted to be totally without any controls whatsoever, Peter Thiel and the entire crowd of them. And guess what? We're going to have controls because you people are not to be trusted with artificial intelligence. Full stop. Short commercial break Back in the Worm in just a moment.

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[Brian Glenn]

War Room here's your Host Stephen K.

[Steve Bannon]

Band okay, I am not a total Luddite. I am not the reason I'm not. I see the uses of technology and data. One great example. Kobe Bloomfield Gans joins me now. CEO and founder of Chapter Brother. You come at this issue of Medicare and the reason I love this company so much is that the whole Medicare thing confused me no end, right? I had to have advisor. I had to have people help me think it through. And I said, God, you know, I actually went to business school if I can't figure this thing out and I worked at Goldman, I feel like kind of an idiot. I came but it was so, so confusing. And then I kind of figured out that, hey, I guess the system's meant to be confusing because there's got to be money on the table in that market. Inefficiency of not perfect information. Right? It's not a. It's not. Is all markets tend towards perfection with perfect information. You don't have it here, you're blocked. Then I met you and you told me, said hey, I'm not a medical, I'm not a medical field guy or health field guy. I did this because my poor mom would be in tears because she signed up for the, for the wrong plan. And since that you're her son, she's got to be pretty smart. And you said I had to solve it for. Talk to me about data. Why data is important when you talk about Medicare. Because the response we're getting from Warren Posse members that have gone tried the free consultation over chapters is pretty amazing. But talk to us about how the foundation, the company and how you thought through the problem from a different angle of attack than somebody that would be in the medical or health sciences field.

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

We've helped over a thousand people from the Posse already, so it's been tremendous. As you said, I really come from a software and a data background and I saw my parents and my mom in particular going through this process and it was just wild to me that there wasn't good information that people didn't know what options they had to sign up for. And because I don't come from a healthcare or an insurance background, my first question was what's the information? What's the data? And it turns out that the data is very opaque. It's hard to even get a list of all Medicare plans that are available to each person. And then once you have that list, it's hard to know what doctors are in network, what prescriptions cost, what benefits do you get, what will a procedure cost if I Need a procedure. All of these questions and all this information really matters. It matters to what Medicare plan you choose. It matters to how you think about your budget for the month. It matters to how you think about the care that you might need. And no one has been able to create a data model, really a data set that has all this information and that makes it available to people so that they can get the best healthcare for the lowest possible cost. And that's really what we do. And so I used my data background to really structure the information and make it usable. Just as a very simple example, if you want to know what a prescription will cost at a given pharmacy on a given Medicare plan, every other Medicare advisor in the country and every Medicare organization is basically guessing because there are tens of billions of permutations of that problem. We have used a lot of our data expertise to know with precision and accuracy what will a prescription cost you when you go fill it at a given pharmacy on a given Medicare plan. And that matters, as you can imagine, not only so that you can go buy that prescription when you need it, but also because you want to get the Medicare plan that has the lowest prescription cost given, the prescriptions are going to be the same. So that's just one very small example. But there are all these examples across so many different aspects of people's healthcare that really, data can unlock a lot of power and a lot of cost savings for individuals.

[Steve Bannon]

So walk us through. The biggest thing is the hurdle of people like, oh my God, I'm so confused. I'm so intimidated. Just let's start at the beginning. What do they have to do to get access to your people that then they can be walked through an alternative. Because the point here is not just. Also, it's not just direct cost. It's the plan has to fit you. I think your mom with her frustration in that first conversation with you that she realized with, you know, her smarts and her due diligence, she had signed up for a bad plan. She was stuck in a bad plan. So how does this audience get, get in contact with your consultants and advisors that they can actually start to see the whole range of alternatives?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

We provide free consultations. You can call 845-war- Room. 845-war- Room. That's the number specific to the posse. And people shouldn't feel bad about it. As you said, you're a very well educated, very smart man. Steve, My mom is a very well educated, very intelligent woman. But really, no one can understand this. It took me, frankly, a year or two of Studying it to really understand it. I, I heard a.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. It took you, it took you a year or two of studying this to

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

you start to understand it, to really understand the details. Yes, but, but that's what it takes because it is a really complex system that's been created over time. But there's a, there's a professor of health economics at Stanford University who said that he had a hard time signing up for Medicare. This is someone who, whose entire life work is studying the healthcare and healthcare economic system and he couldn't figure it out. So it really does take experts unfortunately. But that's really why we're here. So we provide free consultations. 845 War Room. It's not just to know how to sign up initially, but if you're already on a plan and you want to make sure that you're on the right plan or you need to optimize your coverage, we'll walk you through the nuts and bolts from should I even be on medicare or should I stay on my current employer plan or other COBRA that I have if I should be on Medicare, Help me sign up, help me, tell me what plan to sign up for. And then one thing we don't talk that much about but is actually a huge value add to chapter's members into the posse is that we have a full time dedicated team of what we call member advocates. And these are people whose entire job is to help you save money and get the care you need. So if you want to appeal a bill or a claim, we'll help you with that. If you need to find a doctor or a specialist who's in network, we'll help you with that. If you need to get a prior authorization and the insurance carrier is giving you a hard time by denying your procedure, we'll help you appeal it. And we do all of that for free, just as being a member of chapter and a member of the posse.

[Steve Bannon]

One more time. 845-war- Room. You talked to one of your consultants and advisors today, totally free. They can walk them through everything. Correct?

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

That's right.

[Steve Bannon]

Kobe, thank you. Thank you for setting this up. Thank you for having that conversation with your mom and taking a couple of years to understand this because you've set up something extraordinary. People love this company. They really do. Thank you.

[Kobe Bloomfield Gans]

Really appreciate it. Steve. Thanks for having me.

[Steve Bannon]

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