Episode 5365: Manning The Polling Stations In 2026; Showdown In South Carolina

Summary

Podcast Summary

Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5365: Manning The Polling Stations in 2026; Showdown In South Carolina

Date: May 12, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Chip Roy, Caroline Wren, Eric Bolling, Pamela Evatt (via clip), Anonymous Former FBI Agent

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Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode focuses on the evolving landscape of election integrity heading into the 2026 midterms, the Republican push to maximize congressional seats through aggressive redistricting in Southern states (notably South Carolina, Alabama, and Louisiana), and the brewing intra-party battles in Texas and elsewhere. The panel discusses strategies to ensure Republican victories, including President Trump's call for an “election integrity army,” debates over gerrymandering, legal and institutional battles, and the key races that could shape the House majority. Economic updates feature heavily in the latter part of the episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump's “Election Integrity Army” and Poll Watching

• Bannon opens with coverage of Trump’s announcement of a large-scale "election integrity army" for the 2026 midterms, drawing a parallel with previous Republican strategies to install trained recruits as poll workers (00:00).
• Concerns are raised over whether such efforts cross the line into intimidation, especially coming off the post-2020 "coup attempt" and January 6th context.

“All he needs to do is use legerdemain and lies to cast doubt on a few swing states and throw the country into chaos.” – [Anonymous Former FBI Agent, 01:58]

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2. Redistricting and Race – The “Jim Crow 2.0” Charges

• Caroline Wren details recent Republican-led efforts to redraw congressional maps across the South, often at the expense of Black representation.
• Specific examples:
  • Louisiana Statehouse sessions, protests in Alabama and Tennessee over dilution of Black voting districts.
  • Republican strategies to distribute Black voters into majority-White districts, preventing them from electing their preferred candidates.
• This is framed by critics as a retreat to a “post-Reconstruction” era, the so-called “Jim Crow 2.0” (02:29-06:14).

“Williamson county literally still has a confederate flag on their county seal, but they'll have just the right size of a slice of black voters from Memphis to make sure they can never... elect a member of Congress of their choosing.” – [Caroline Wren, 02:54]

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3. Supreme Court, Voting Rights, and Historical Parallels

• Bannon and others criticize the Supreme Court for a pattern of decisions seen as rolling back civil rights, referencing cases like Dobbs, Korematsu, and Plessy v. Ferguson.
• The court, they argue, enables state legislatures to reduce Black voting power, requiring citizens—as in prior generations—to fight for rights outside the courts (03:58-06:14).

"The rights we enjoy right now are not because of nine people on the Supreme Court. It's because people fought for them." – [Stephen K. Bannon, 03:58]

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4. Battle for Southern Congressional Maps

South Carolina (33:43)

• Pamela Evatt (via clip) and Caroline Wren urge immediate action to draw “constitutionally rooted” maps and maximize GOP congressional seats.
• Trump personally calls state leaders to pressure for action.
• The battle described is the “difference between having Speaker Hakeem Jeffries or not. ...That’s a massive difference,” emphasizing urgency (40:13).

"No more time for hesitation or half measures. South Carolina must move with speed and determination to draw maps rooted in the Constitution, not on identity politics or left wing social engineering." – [Pamela Evatt, 32:18]

Alabama & Louisiana

• Clips shared from Alabama Senate candidate Barry Moore and Wren about pushing for 7-0 Republican maps (30:46+).

Mississippi

• Special session set for May 20. Odds of moving to full Republican congressional control seen as slim due to procedural hurdles (39:05).

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5. Grassroots Mobilization and Election Volunteer Strategy

• Bannon and guests discuss the “army of trained volunteers” preparing to “guard ballot boxes,” casting this as a certainty for 2026; significant grassroots involvement encouraged in all relevant states (13:56-14:13, 28:03, 43:22).

"Sorry if you don’t like that. …Yes, an army of trained volunteers will be at the ballot boxes this November. Take that to the bank. That’s a dead certainty. You’re not going to steal any more elections in the United States of America." – [Stephen K. Bannon, 13:56]

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6. Texas AG, Intra-Party Fights, and Chip Roy’s Campaign

• Chip Roy discusses his run for Texas Attorney General and broader issues:
  • Defending conservative legal positions.
  • Critiquing "race-based gerrymandering" as unconstitutional (11:32).
  • Central campaign issues: border security, battling “Marxists and Islamists,” fighting big corporate control of Texas, and pushing for strict law-and-order measures, like the death penalty for fentanyl dealers (19:27).
• Roy positions himself as an experienced lawyer and grassroots fighter, directly challenging the “Austin Swamp” and rival Maes Middleton as an “inherited millions” outsider (19:27-23:27).

“If we lose Texas, we lose it all. …We cannot turn Texas over to open borders, to criminals, to Marxists, and importantly to the Islamists who are attacking our state and building mosques.” – [Chip Roy, 19:27]

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7. Economic Update: Inflation and Federal Reserve Policy

• The episode turns to economic news with Eric Bolling dissects the latest inflation numbers:
  • CPI at 3.8% year-over-year ("a little warmer than expected"), blaming energy prices (45:57).
  • Fed unlikely to cut rates in June, faces political and structural constraints (47:00-49:04).
• Bannon ties inflation to global events: oil markets, U.S.–China energy strategies, Middle East conflicts.

"You want good growth and some inflation… but the bad news is wrong trajectory." – [Eric Bolling, 45:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Election Integrity Machines:
  “We’re not getting on. They're good people, but they're confused people. So this is an exercise in clarity.” – [Stephen K. Bannon, 31:18]
• On Republican Grassroots Pressure:
  “As soon as that ruling came out, we were the first ones out. …Or else I think a lot of states would have done what Georgia did, which was just take the easy road out and say, ‘I’ll deal with this next cycle.’” – [Caroline Wren, 41:19]
• Historical Framing of SCOTUS Decisions:
  "It’s about got to be about us affirming our rights as past generations did when the Supreme Court tried to set us back." – [Stephen K. Bannon, 05:42]
• On the Partisan Stakes:
  “That’s the difference between having Speaker Hakeem Jeffries or not… It is a massive difference.” – [Caroline Wren, 40:13]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–02:29: Trump’s “army” at polling stations; FBI agent warns of manipulation/intimidation.
• 02:29–06:14: Caroline Wren and others on redistricting battles and Black voter disenfranchisement.
• 06:14–07:33: NAACP, DOJ, and Black voter mobilization strategies.
• 10:24–13:56: Bannon on “deep state” worries; defense of Republican voter integrity strategies.
• 11:32–13:56: Chip Roy challenges “race-based gerrymandering” / constitutional arguments.
• 19:27–23:27: Chip Roy on Texas AG race, border, Islam/Muslim concerns, corporate land grabs.
• 31:32–32:18: Caroline Wren on Alabama, grassroots pressure for 7-0 maps.
• 32:18–33:43: Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt’s speech—call for rapid SC action.
• 33:43–41:19: South Carolina legislative battle for congressional districts; mechanics, pressure points.
• 45:11–51:51: Eric Bolling on inflation, Fed policy, oil/gas prices, and Middle East disruptions.

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Conclusion

This episode encapsulates the Republican effort to “lock in” congressional power and “secure” elections across the South by mobilizing both legal and grassroots means. It blends apocalyptic warnings about leftist threats with detailed roadmaps for redistricting, poll watching, and volunteer engagement. The Texas AG and Senate races are spotlighted as bellwethers of grassroots momentum. The tone is urgent, combative, and unapologetically partisan, with the future of the House majority and the Trump agenda painting every political and procedural fight in existential terms for listeners.

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For More:

• Caroline Wren (updates, calls to action): X/Twitter @CarolineWren
• Chip Roy’s campaign: ChipRoy.com, ChipRoyTX on X
• Economic commentary: Eric Bolling, @EricBolling on X
• Pamela Evatt (SC updates): Featured in Judiciary hearing clip (32:18)

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Donald Trump is using debunked claims about, quote, unquote, unfair elections as a pretext to send what he's now calling a large, quote, election integrity army to every state for the 2026 midterms. Trump made that announcement in response to Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer's new effort to push back against potential election interference from Trump and Republicans. Now, Trump didn't give specifics on who actually would be, you know, the so called army, but his comments echo a strategy from Republican operatives to install trained recruits as poll workers to monitor the 2024 election.

[Anonymous Former FBI Agent]

First of all, based on what we have seen since January 20th of last year, he will leverage every single body carrying a badge and a gun to serve whatever purposes he thinks he can get away with. We have had the attorney general, in spite of a direct federal law contravening his assertions, say that he has no problem with ice at polling places. Again, Congress passed a law that was signed by a president which forbids armed federal agents from being at polling places. And we have a really shameful history from the Jim Crow and Reconstruction eras as to why that is necessary. Secondly, we know from his first failed coup attempt in 2020 that he is willing to rile up a crowd like we saw on January 6, who are willing to destroy federal property, assault police officers, and generally make a mockery of every single thing that this country is supposed to stand for. And it's important to note he doesn't need to take over a polling place. He doesn't need to start another insurrection. All he needs to do is use leisure domain and lies to cast doubt on a few swing states and throw the country into chaos. And we have seen, to get back to what we were talking about earlier time and time again, that it is unfortunately easy for him, whether by his skill or other people's gullibility, to hoodwink those who want to support him.

[Caroline Wren]

I mean, this was the scene inside the Louisiana Statehouse last week as Republicans worked to jam through the new maps. Protesters packing the halls, demanding to be heard. Frankly, some of the same in Alabama, where Republicans are trying to take away at least one of the two congressional districts in Alabama represented by a black lawmaker. Protesters saying we shall overcome outside the House chamber, some of them dragged away by security guards. Same thing in Tennessee, where Republicans have passed new maps that break up majority black Memphis. So Republicans run the can run the table for the whole state. Protesters blew whistles and booed and shouted shame as Republican lawmakers walked in to cast their votes. I should tell you in Tennessee. A big slice of black residents in Memphis will now have their votes folded into a white county called Williamson County. Williamson county literally still has a confederate flag on their county seal, but they'll have just the right size of a slice of black voters from Memphis to make sure they can never, with our other Memphis residents, elect a member of Congress of their choosing. There's a reason why people are calling this Jim Crow 2.0. This really is plainly an effort to drag us back to the post Reconstruction era after the Civil War. Right, the so called redemption of the old Confederacy where the slave states reverted to giving black Americans zero say in their own democracy and the federal government

[Anonymous Former FBI Agent]

let them do it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Supreme Court has gotten it wrong generation after generation. The rights we enjoy right now are not because of nine people on the Supreme Court. It's because people fought for them. And where the Supreme Court usually gets it wrong is when they're taking away rights. Whether it's Korematsu with the internment of Japanese, whether it's Plessy versus Ferguson, denying rights to African Americans, whether it's Dobbs, they got it wrong. Taking away rights for women to control what happens to their bodies. And here we have again the Supreme Court taking away rights, equality, fair representation and fair voting. Doing in result. The exact same thing happened when Reconstruction fell in the 1870s. And exactly what happened then is state legislators move to take away rights and access and fairness and representation from black people. The Supreme Court is effectively sending us back to an era where legislators in many of these states can effectively wipe black voter power off. This is not about left or right. So the question is, is not what the Supreme Court did because they've done it in past generations, it's what are we going to do as a result. And they may have issued a decision. It's time for us to again make history. And we can. Every American should see this as no longer about left or right, about right or wrong. This race now we're having with all of these maps since the, the the Rucho vs Common Cause decision where the Supreme Court says hey yeah, partisan gerrymanning is anti Democratic, but we're not going to do anything about it. And now they're allowing this race. Well, this election has to be about those fundamental rights, not right or wrong. But will Americans have basic fundamental rights like the right to vote and the right to fair representation? Because this race at the bottom we're on is wrong. And the desecration of the sacrifices and struggles of so many people from different races, Goodman, Cheney, Schwarner dying in Mississippi for voting rights. This has got to be about more than just a political election. It's about got to be about us affirming our rights as past generations did when the Supreme Court tried to set us back.

[Caroline Wren]

Right now, the south is exhibit A for how far we still need to go as a country. It is not surprising or shocking that the south is the one racing forward at lightning speed to strip black people of their voice. And they're doing so without hesitation or shame. The Voting Rights act was always what nudged us in the right direction. And that nudge was needed most greatly in the south, in the deep south states, a former Confederacy that is not even blinking as they shamelessly strip away districts represented by honorable black public servants. So, as we have done throughout our nation's history, the NAACP will continue to march forward in the wake of the animus and the hostility. We will turn out in the streets and use our votes, our voices. We will turn out in the courts, Constitution in hand, standing up for the rights outlined in the Reconstruction amendments. But most importantly, this election season, you will see turnout like you have never seen before. It is at the ballot box where we will use our voice in the most determined fashion during this dark season.

Michael, as we know, DOJ trying to get everybody as voter rolls. You have references to this army that they want to put out there. And then on top of that, Michael, you now have the Washington Post drawing our attention to the fact bunch of Republicans who denied the 2020 election results. Who could be governors next year? Political figures took leading roles in trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election, appear on track to win the Republican party's nomination for governor in several of the country's biggest battleground states, including Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. What could possibly go wrong? I remember being in Arizona And Nevada in 2022, Michael, when there were big Senate races and one of the big dividing lines between the Democratic and Republican candidate in those races were the easiest. The Republican candidates were election deniers. And yes, that may not have been the reason that voters went to the polls, but it was in the ether. It was part of the choice that they were making. And we're watching that choice play out again.

[Chip Roy]

At the end of the day

[Stephen K. Bannon]

a year from now, folks are going to be sitting back and listening to conversations like this and go, why didn't anybody pay attention to what we tried to

[Eric Bolling]

tell what they said?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, they were laying out the cornerstones of what was about to happen. Donald Trump is going to steal this election. I don't know. Why that's hard for folks to understand in the grasp he's put in place I early iterations of our being together. I was talking about in the last political cycle what Donald Trump was going to do in this political cycle because it was in his best interest to do so. Michael.

[Anonymous Former FBI Agent]

So not just that it's in his best interests. And I slightly disagree with everybody. I don't think this is in response to incentives. I don't think this is in response to any facts on the ground. I'm going to be the simplistic knuckle dragging ex FBI agent. I think this is because they are bad people who don't care about their country in iota as much as they care about themselves and they are willing to burn down every institution we have built since the generation of the founders solely in the name of personal power. And until everybody in America recognizes that, we're not going to stop it. Rule of law is fundamentally under attack and I know a lot of people who have to win elections or who have appointed positions will disagree with me. But arguing right now about anything other than the rule of law is like worrying about your window treatments when your house is burning down. There are bigger problems if we don't save our institutions, if we don't save our democratic processes, issues like affordability, climate change, international relations, they're not going to matter at all. We have to rebuild our foundations.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tuesday 12th May, year of our Lord 2026 right there you see the unbridgeable gap, right? A mouthpiece for the FBI, one of the most corrupt institutions in this country, the deep state. Really starting to get quite worried about the army we've putting together of grassroots people that yes, we'll be guarding the ballot boxes this November. Sorry if you don't like that. Michael Steele, Tim Miller, all you Nicole Wallace, Republicans think about that. They ran the Republican Party. That's what a joke the Republican Party is. Chip Roy joins us now. Chip, defense of the const. This is what I failed to get. The Supreme Court 63 upheld the constitutional order. This is clearly these DEI districts are rabidly unconstitutional. You're running for the attorney general of Texas. You're a constitutional expert. You want the consciences in the House right now on the Constitution. What doesn't the left get about we have to defend the constitutional order and that these districts are totally and completely unconstitutional.

[Chip Roy]

Well, good morning, Steve. The truth is what they don't get is they don't get that the Constitution is what controls because all they care about is power. They say Things like the rule of law, like in that last clip. The fact of the matter is the rule of law here would actually suggest that having race based gerrymandering is the problem. In fact, Clarence Thomas said it better than any of the other justices as usual when he said Section 2 of the Voting Rights act should have nothing to do with districting. We've been living under that for 60 years and we've been creating race based districts contrary to the Constitution of the United States. And you heard the complaints about Tennessee that my gosh, what's happening? A white guy, an old white guy. Steve Cohen is the representative for that supposedly black center district out of Memphis. They don't care about anything but power. The fact is, if you go back 20 years ago, you'll remember this. Some of us, a very small group of us, were instrumental in stopping the Bush nomination of Harriet Myers. Now I wish her well, she's a nice lady, but she was not prepared to be a Supreme Court Justice. It took some of us throwing down freezing the Senate Judiciary Committee when I was a lawyer on the Judiciary Committee and then giving it time. And a few days later Harriet was removed and we got Sam Alito. Now imagine how things would be different over the last 20 years if we hadn't done that. Leadership matters in the Voting Rights Act I was filing minority views laying out the unconstitutionality of the voting rights act. 20 years ago we knew section five was unconstitutional, which bore out in 2012 in the supreme court opinion saying you can't use 50 year old data to make states have to go pre clear with the Department of Justice. Now finally the court has taken race based gerrymandering out of our maps. Now Democrats are flipping out because we added four seats into five seats in Texas. DeSantis added four in Florida. Now we got one in Tennessee. We're hopefully going to get a few more from other states. Virginia's Supreme Court did the right thing and struck down that absurd map. The rule of law is actually governing. The people should be able to choose the representatives in Republican form of government. South Carolina elected Tim Scott. They are worried about leftist Marxist power, not blacks being discriminated against. That's the actual truth.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Chip, can you hang on for one second? I know you've got a new legislative initiative. You're talking about our crime. I want to ask you about the Texas race also. The radicals, they want to dissolve the Commonwealth. Virginia Supreme Court, restock it with people under 54 that are left wing and retry this. They want to pack the Supreme Court of the United States. They're out of control. This is why these cold opens now are so great. Yes, an army of trained volunteers will be at the ballot boxes this November. Take that to the bank. That's a dead certainty. You're not going to steal any more elections in the United States of America. We're going to take a short commercial break. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. The ultimate guide for investing in Gold and precious Metals in the Age of Trump. You get direct access to Philip Patrick and his team. Now with the big China trip coming up Thursday, Friday might be very important. Everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle east is raising oil prices. But there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being constrained. About one third of Global Fertilizer trademark happens through this region. And with spring planting season on top of us, American farmers are sounding the alarm with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields. When one piece of the supply chain gets hit this hard, you know what comes next? Higher fruit prices, reduced availability, maybe even panic buying. That's why having an emergency food supply at home makes so much sense. And that's where our friends at my Patriot Supply come in. Right now at preparewithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com we've set up an entire just site for the War Room Posse. You go to preparewith bannon.com that's all one word. Preparewithband.com you get a three month emergency food supply. Don't include a free mega protein Upgrade, an incredible $200 bonus you don't want to miss. It's a simple way to protect your family from whatever comes next. Go to preparewithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com to get your emergency food supply today. That's preparewithbannon.com do it today. Go check it out. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. So, Chip, I want to go back to the Alito because folks think about that for second. A second Judge Justice Alito who's been really such a savior and just an amazing, amazing, amazing man. What he's done, it would have been Harriet Myers, George F. Will, who I'm no fan of, but had the greatest quote when that first happened. He said if you took Chip, if you took the top 1,000 constitutional lawyers in the country and had them put together individually, their top 1,000 choices in that mass list, Harriet Meyer's name would not be on it. Of what a joke it was. How big a fight was it to get a lead on the court?

[Chip Roy]

It was a huge fight. Remember, we had just had the Chief Justice Roberts, we had two openings. It was kind of chaos. And some of us just said, look, we spent our whole legal careers trying to fight for this moment, to have a Supreme Court that will actually do the right thing. And now you're going to roll the dice with someone who's unproven and that we believe wouldn't be that solid. So we had to go freeze out the Judiciary Committee members. We as staff, as lawyers say, guys, stop, wait and go sit down. Look at a record. Do not pledge your vote. Do not put it out publicly. And we basically ran a secret campaign for about a week. Actually, it became not so secret. So much so that the Bush team had to come down and have a meeting with just us as staffers trying to convince us. And we just lit into him. So what Supreme Court case has she ever been a part of? What would give us anything to believe that she would be a rock star like Scalia or Thomas? And the answer was nothing. So at the end of the day, President Bush thankfully pulled her name because again, I'm not trying to disparage her, she's a really, really fantastic human being, but just did not have any business beyond the Supreme Court. Sam Alito was the right choice. We've gotten numerous great opinions because of Sam Alito. A great guy on law enforcement, a great guy on Fourth Amendment and on our rights, a great guy on obviously getting the right opinion on Roe vs. Wade. And now this opinion on the ridiculousness of the Section 2 of the Voting Rights Rights act. And it should not be race based. And the court and the country is better off for having Sam Alito. It's one of the things I'm most proud of. Leadership matters when you have to set the stage and look down the table, whether it was the Speaker's fight. Remember three and a half years ago, Steve, we wouldn't have gotten the big beautiful bill. We wouldn't have gotten a lot of the reforms. We wouldn't be standing alongside President Trump the same way if we hadn't picked that fight three and a half years ago in the 20, in the freedom Caucus, who led? It matters if you lead.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me talk. You know, you got the left. They're trying to dissolve the Virginia Supreme Court, the Commonwealth, they're trying to pack the Supreme Court. You're running for AG and I realize you're putting up something now on Fentanyl While you're still in the House. But in this fight for ag, this is why it's so important. Ken Paxton stood in the breach against these radicals on the first day of the Biden regime. That's why these state AGs, and particularly Texas, because Texas is the jewel in the crown of the union, are so important, sir.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah, that's right, Stephen. Yeah. I'm introducing legislation. I'm still doing my day job in Congress burning both ends of the candle. The deal Death Face Death act now would make sure that if you're a drug dealer pushing fentanyl and killing our kids, you can face the death penalty under federal law. We need to be stronger. We need to be much more forceful on these. We need, by the way, to codify what the President is doing at the border, and we haven't done that yet. There are a lot of things we need to do. We need to get rid of the kids. Kill switch. We need to stop the central bank digital currency. We need to reform FISA to secure our rights. Look, I'm doing everything I can in Congress to push Congress to the right to back up what the President ran on. Defend the President of the United States and get things done right. But in Texas, we've got to have an Attorney General who, no matter who's in the White House, will stand up and defend the greatest state and the greatest country in the history of the world. If we lose Texas, we lose it all. Look, my family came here in 1853. The people who came here and built Texas, they built Texas for freedom. They built Texas so that we could come here, live free, act out our faith in God and carry out and live our lives according to the dictates of our conscience. And now Texas is often, too often for sale to sale for sale to the highest bidder, for sale to big corporations coming in and putting data centers wherever they want without regard to water or without regard to electricity. And what's happening on our grid, too often for sale to the highest bidder who wants to come in and use their powerful lobby interest in the Austin. Austin Swamp, which is every bit as bad as the D.C. swamp. The Austin Swamp fears Chip Roy. The leftists and the Marxists fear Chip Roy. So much so that there's a California PAC running a million dollars of ads against me, not my opponent, because I delivered repeal of the Green New Scam subsidies alongside President Trump in the big beautiful bill. There's a lot of lies being told by my opponent who has unlimited funds and resources. Those lies are because he has nothing else to run on those lies are because he's not a real lawyer. He's never been in court, he's never stood up and prosecuted a criminal. I've done all of those things. And look, I know some of your audience and some people have disagreed with me along the line. That's okay. You know, I'm going to fight and stand up for you that I'm going to fight and stand up for the Constitution. You know what? You're going to get someone who's fearlessly going to go into the Austin swamp and say, Texas is not for sale. Steve, if we lose Texas, where else do we get to go? We cannot turn Texas over to open borders to criminals, to Marxists, and importantly to the Islamists who are attacking our state and building mosques. I was standing up and saying this publicly long before anyone else was. Two years ago I took to the floor, Charlie Kirk called me and said thank you. I called him to thank him for his speech in Oxford. And the last conversation I had with Charlie was that we don't get it. And if we don't stop Islam, there is no Texas, there is no America. We've got to stop the march of Islam, we've got to stop the Marxists, we got to stop the corporatists, we've got to stand up for the hardworking middle class family getting screwed over by the powerful interests. And that's what you want, an Attorney General?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What do you think the defining issue, this issue about Mays Middleton's lack of experience as a lawyer in courts managing lawyers, is it issues that define it? Because you know, these state AGs are so important. Paxton has raised the profile of Texas and the Texas Attorney General to be one of the most important elective offices in the country because of Ken Paxton's leadership. And this is why it's such a huge fight between the grassroots for Paxton and Cornyn right now trying to replace a sitting U.S. senator. Because this is because of Ken's actions over the last, you know, longer than that, but definitely since January 2021, when he really stood in the breach when no one else would. What do you think is the defining issue that people really got to think about is now we, I guess early voting starts Monday and then I think the 26 is when actually we, we vote in Texas. What, when people go to the polls on election day, what do you think the defining issues are?

[Chip Roy]

Well, you named one of them. First of all, you want someone who's, who's a real lawyer, who's been in court, who stood before a judge who has run complex litigation. I was Ken Paxton's first, first assistant attorn. We ran complex litigation. We won it. We built a great team. We set up an office for success and a structure that would, that would deliver. And look, my opponent, he literally spent hundreds of thousands of dollars as he had, trying to buy people across the state of Texas. He's been funding groups, he's trying to buy people to put them on slates. He spent $300,000 backing an opponent to Ken Paxton in the last primary. Literally well over half a million dollars across multiple candidates trying to take down Ken Paxton. The fact is, my opponent is a swamp creature. The swamp creatures in Austin are rallying around him. And the defining issue really is who do you trust to be your lawyer as a Texan, who do you trust to be your lawyer to fight the key issues, the Islamification of Texas, the Marxists and the radicals, putting criminals on our streets and trying to put DAs and judges in place that will endanger our people. Somebody who will stand up to secure the border. If we have, God forbid, a Democrat, a Biden Majorca situation, who will declare an invasion and stand up and fight. And the last and important one, as I mentioned before, stand up to the corporations and the boardrooms coming in, buying up our local hospitals, putting data centers wherever they want, without regard to Texans interests. Buying up our ranches and our meat processing facilities. Buying up all of our great lands farmlands and selling them to the highest bidder. Buying up housing stock. I know that's something of interest to President Trump. There's been a lot of attacks against me. Steve, you and I haven't always agreed. I understand. But when you put yourself in the cauldron and you stand up and fight for what you believe in, in the Constitution, then you're gonna take some arrows. But I'm the guy that you can trust to put in front of a freight train. And that freight train are a bunch of Marxists and Islamists who wanna take Texas away from us. Who do you want there? Maes Middleton, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars and is spending it to buy the election so he can be governor, Or a guy who wants to be the attorney general who's been in court and has taken arrows to fight for this country and the state of Texas. That's what I think the election is going to be about over the next two weeks.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Last thing before you go. Given your understanding of the Constitution, being in the House, running for AG and you know, running to replace a guy like Ken Paxton, that always put the Constitution first. What recommendation would have some of these, some of the AGs or somewhat like in South Carolina or Alabama, Carolina run is going to get here. We're going to go to the South Carolina Senate. What would be your recommendation to those folks in the AG position about this issue of these unconstitutional congressional districts?

[Chip Roy]

Well, look, I think they just need to stand up directly behind what the Supreme Court laid out. I don't think it's actually that vague. It was a strong 6 to 3 opinion. I think they need to create maps that reflect the values of the people of Texas. Make sure, I mean, well in my case Texas, the people of their home state and say we're gonna have maps here that reflect the people and we're gonna elect the best people. If you're in South Carolina, you stand up on the rooftops and you say whether you support him or not, Tim Scott is a black candidate who has won statewide in South Carolina. You're telling me we have to go draw specific maps. That doesn't make any sense. Wesley Hunt has been talking about this. Other black members of the Republican conference, Byron Donalds has been good on this, talking about the fact that they ran as conservatives, people who support the America first agenda and that they don't need some special lines to represent the people. And what we've been doing is destroying, destroying the greatness of black American culture by allowing the radical left to co op it. That's why President Trump is doing so well with black Americans and with Hispanic Americans. They're tired of the crap. They want to live free. They want to live secure. They want to live according to their values. They don't like the March of Islam either. Speak to people where they are. We're standing up for hard working Americans, not the ruling class. We're not standing up for what the radical leftists want. We're trying to defend them. If I'm Attorney General, I'm going straight to the people. I'm standing behind the Supreme Court. I'm talking about Clarence Thomas growing up in Savannah in poor, in the poorest of poor areas. I'm quoting his great book about what it took to grow up in that area and love this country. Stand up and now be the greatest Supreme Court justice in the history of this country. A plow, a proud American who happens to be black.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Where do people go for your campaign? Your social media, Sir. Give it 30 seconds.

[Chip Roy]

ChipRoy.com ChipRoy TX that's C H I P R O Y T X on X Twitter. Steve, thanks for what you're doing. We've got to deliver. You said earlier, we've got to deliver. Between now and the fall, I'll say one last thing. I beat Wendy Davis. I beat a Democrat in a tough race. I'll do it in the fall. I need to be the Republican nominee for attorney general.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Caroline Wren]

Yeah, I think it was around like 10:00pm, 10:30 people last night. I saw he puts up a post that just said, you know, this is great news about Supreme Court. We'll get a six one map and maybe someday down the road we'll get a seven. Oh, and I just lost it. I'm like, someday down the road is now. That's today. Not someday down the road. Not 2028, not 2030, not 2032. We want the 7 map right now. And so then woke up this morning and he had put up that video clarifying, which I'm glad, because Barry Moore is, you know, a congressman, a pretty good MAGA congressman. He has the endorsement of President Trump in this Senate race. And so I was like, wait a minute, you're the trumpetors candidate calling for a six, one map.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No, no, no, hang on for a second. We got another clip. Let's play the other clip right now for and bring Caroline back. Back. Let's go and play it.

[Caroline Wren]

And at the ballot box. The era has ended. The Supreme Court has shut down these unconstitutional power grabs and is now time for Republican states to act. President Trump has made his expectations unmistakable. There is no more time for hesitation or half measures. South Carolina must move with speed and determination to draw maps rooted in the Constitution, not on identity politics or left wing social engineering. We have both the duty and the opportunity to maximize our conservative stronghold and ensure our people receive the representation they deserve. Grounded in faith, freedom, family values, safe communities and economic prosperity. This fight is a straightforward, fair election versus Democrat manipulation. It is the same battle President Trump has led from the beginning. No more delays, no more excuses, no more indifference to activist courts. We must finish this redistricting work now, by any means necessary, the integrity of our elections and the future of our state demands nothing less. I look forward to continuing our work, to getting this done, and I thank you for your time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Caroline, walk us through. Who was that? That was by the most succinct and perfect explanation of what we're trying to accomplish, ma'. Am.

[Caroline Wren]

That was Pamela Evatt, who I love. She is the Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina. That was her. She showed up unexpected at the Judiciary hearing this morning, and she was one of the people I was on the phone with late last night. She's been calling state senators, any. Everyone in her state, saying, get on board. The president gave us a mandate. Let's get this done. It's good for the state. Then she woke up early this morning, showed up at the House Judiciary hearing and got in line to speak, and I thought, gave a very articulate, smart, strong speech that laid out exactly what is at stake and why South Carolina should not delay, and they need to move forward now. And so I'm very proud of Pamela Evatt for that. And right now, that Judiciary hearing is still going on. And then we'll move over to the Senate, who is kind of where we think there's some more problematic actors.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Walk me through the order of battle. I think now we're down to five people. Either are nos or in the middle. We don't know where they vote. And we can only have. Is it only have 2 nos or 3 no's for this to pass?

[Eric Bolling]

Sure.

[Caroline Wren]

We can have, I believe, actually four no's that we can have. And so. But then you've had some of these Democrat state senators out there saying, this is great, we're gonna vote for this. I'm like, okay, great. Are you? Because we. We probably need your vote. So we'd love to have it. But I think that they're bluffing. That's why I've been calling out their bluff. So I will say, of those five holdouts right now, you know, that list again was 10 yesterday. We've made tremendous movement. I'll give a lot of credit. You've got all types of people making phone calls. So these people, the White House political office has been absolutely amazing. You know, President Trump has been amazing. He called the speaker of the House, he called the Senate President there, which to me is. I mean, President Trump is busy enough. You shouldn't have to be cold calling state senators and state House members in South Carolina to say, do what everyone obviously knows and what your state wants you to do. And your constituents, however he is. Because President Trump plays to win. And that's why, you know, I felt incumbent upon myself and so many others to, you know, drop what I'm doing and help get this passed, because this is a priority of the president. And anything we can do to help the president pass his agenda, count me in.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So just. And we can get. I think we've got the numbers that we can put up for people to call, but we have to get out of the. We have to get out of Senate Judiciary today. Is that committee going to meet and have a vote and then it goes to the entire South Carolina Senate?

[Caroline Wren]

Yes. And there are two different votes that are taking place and debates that are happening today. One has to do with the actual moving of the primary. There were some discussions about moving in South Carolina, you have the governor's race on the ballot, Attorney general's race. You've got also, you know, the congressional races. So you have a mix of state, you've got the Senate race, mix of statewide. And so I think what they, they were going to move all of them to August if they proceeded with this. Now, I believe that the decision that is more likely is that they'll proceed in June with the statewide elections and others, and they will only move the primaries for the congressional races, and that would be moved to a date in mid August. So that's one debate that the Senate is having right now. The House is debating the actual merits of the map, and then both of them will have to come into conference, pass both, and you have to have two thirds vote. So that's also why the bar is quite high. And so in South Carolina, in the House, we have that, I think pretty firmly we're good. The state Senate you need. There's 34 Republican state senators. We need 30 of them. And we're pretty close, but there's a few. I will say that these holdouts, I lived in South Carolina for a long time. I've done a lot of politics there. You know, just sending really mean or nasty tweets or emails or calls is not the way to move these guys. If I would encourage you, if you live in South Carolina, then you should call them when we put these numbers up or email them. And email and detail why you want your representative to do this. That is the type of outreach I believe that really will work with these last few holdouts.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What about this issue about they have to vote. They're still going to have to vote in the next couple of days to have the ability to have a special Sessions. Because doesn't the regular session of the South Carolina legislature in this Friday?

[Caroline Wren]

It does. And so there's a signed die agreement that has to to come in. And this is why some people got mad at Governor McMaster. I'm like, hey, McMaster is like the most MAGA governor again. He was the first statewide elected official to endorse Donald Trump all the way back in 2015. The governor has the ability to call a special session. He does not have the ability to set the agenda of that special session, which is why they are trying to put into the agenda of the signed act to do redistricting and moving the primaries. Because as soon as that passes, that's what they're doing now, then the governor can call a special session and then that will already be put in as to what they have to address in the special session. So it's very technical, it's a little bit confusing. But that's why you haven't seen McMaster, you know, too out there and just yelling about this. There's limits to the power that the governor has in South Carolina. And so he is calling for them to get this done and then he will call that special session. As long as they set the agenda. That includes redistricting.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama. Any other updates there?

[Caroline Wren]

No, I mean, Louisiana, it's still, you know, Louisiana, Alabama are going back and forth on if they're going to go for a clean sweep of all Republican seats or leave. Wanna beach. I'm doing everything I can to encourage those folks there. So really there's, there's 1, 2, 3, 4. There's six seats still on the table. Two in Alabama, two in Louisiana and then one in South Carolina, one in Mississippi. Mississippi is also tricky. Now. There was a, there was a good ruling yesterday that allowed that. This has now allowed Mississippi to redistrict. Their special session is on May 20. Their complicating factors, their primaries already happened in March. So, you know, you just, you have to weigh that. I think they should push forward. I think this is unbelievably important. There is nothing more important than our sacred vote. And. But it's, I just don't have tons. I think it's a 30% chance maybe Mississippi is able to do that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Your point is though, of the six seats, it looks like as many as three or even four we might not get. You could get three, maybe four. But you could leave those three in November, late in the evening, at night could, could be massively important. Correct?

[Caroline Wren]

Yeah. That's the difference between having a speaker Hakeem Jeffries or not. And if there's a Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, it's the difference of President Trump and his family and his allies being tied up in House oversight investigations for two years, a complete stalling and derailing of his agenda, passing it through the House. It is a massive difference. That's where I'm like, I don't understand just the passiveness of like, oh, we'll go get it next time. No, the time again is now. What? We need these seats right now. We should fight for every single seat. The national Republicans have no problem spending 10, 20, $30 million on these house seats. And here I am staring at this being like this cost you nothing. And right now it just costs having the will, determination and, you know, fight in you to get this done. And so that has been what the earlier challenge was. That's why I think the war room posse, everyone, we started to get so loud of this to be as soon as that ruling came out, we were the first ones out. And that really, really, really is mad at. Or else I think a lot of states would have done what Giorgio did, which was just take the easy, you know, easy road out and say, I will deal with this next cycle.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No, it's for the constitutional order. But you can also see, I mean, let's be blunt, you can see where the anti Trump forces are there. They just don't want to do this and they don't want to do it because they, they hate President Trump and they, and they detest maga. Before I let you go and I'm gonna send everybody to your, to bomber command today to your Twitter feed. There's just a big announcement. I think Adam Wren, no relation, just pointed it out in Politico today. Cornyn raised. Was it $7 million? I mean, this giving us. Give us an update. We've got about a minute. Give us an update on this Texas race which everybody is maniacally, all the grassroots are maniacally focused on.

[Caroline Wren]

Yeah, they said that he raised 7 million between April 1 and May 7. He probably did. I don't know. I'm not convinced. I mean, he already spent $100 million to tie Ken Paxton as a, as a four term incumbent. So another 7 million. Okay, he is. His spending has started to tick up, though. It was pretty bizarre. I expected them to spend 25 million in this runoff. He spent basically nothing for the first five weeks. And then now I think it's getting up until around 10, 15 million. But I think this is gonna be a grassroots turnout thing. It's May 26th is this runoff. If you're in Texas, you have to be calling, texting, door knocking everything you can to get Ken Paxton to get these people out to vote for them. The polling shows that people who are planning to vote for Ken Paxton are much more, more motivated to turn out and vote for John Cornyn. So John cornyn Wasting another $7 million on TV ads, I'm not overly worried about, but the low turnout in these runoffs. We just need Every Patriotic Texan May 26 Vote for Ken Paxton and bring five friends to do the same.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Early vote starts Monday. We're going to be shifting the war room down there. That's how important this is. Ken Paxton has stood in the breach for the grassroots and for the constitutional order so many times. Caroline Wren, your bomber command today. Where do people go on your Twitter feed? They're gonna be looking to you for numbers and, and guidance and where to go and where to put the pressure on. So far it's been magnificent, but we still got six to go. Where do people get you?

[Caroline Wren]

Ma', am, it's Caroline Wren on X Truth Social and Getter.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, ma'.

[Caroline Wren]

Am.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Appreciate you.

[Caroline Wren]

Thanks.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Great effort, great fight. What a fighter. Folks, they're hearing you. We still got a couple of three on the table. We gotta close the maximalist strategy here in the war room. Short break. Back in a moment. Fellow patriots, the Federal Reserve has portrayed America for over a century. Printing fiat, inflating away your savings, serving globalist masters. But President Trump is ending it. President Trump is wielding a 112 year old law to reclaim control from the rogue Federal Reserve. He's replacing Jerome Powell. Slashing rates, igniting America's re industrialization. Now this is not theory. Government backed industry plus low rates unleashes super cycles. History does repeat. Gold's already exploding. Miners are up over 400% in the last year. What Rickards is calling Trump's gift is wealth for American patriots, not global handouts. Now it's America's turn. Jim Rickards, former CIA and Pentagon veteran says act now go to insider2026.com that is insider2026.com to get Jim Rickards Strategic intelligence newsletter today. Strategic intelligence based upon predictive analytics. It's what chairman and CEO throughout the world read and you should too. Price index hitting the wires up 610 is the headline number.

[Anonymous Former FBI Agent]

That's exactly what we were expecting.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It follows up 910 up to this point still unrevised that up 910 was the warmest inflation On a month over month headline basis since the, since June of 22. Now the 610 backtracks in a bit brings us to Feb when it was up 3 10.

[Anonymous Former FBI Agent]

If we strip out the all important

[Stephen K. Bannon]

food and energy a little warmer than expected, up 4/10, double the rear view mirror and that would equal where we were in Jana, 25. To find a hotter number, you're going to April of 23. Now if we look at a year over year perspective, 3.8%, a little warmer than expected. Half a percent. Let me have it. Eric Bolling, you had the great Rick Santelli there make it make sense. What happened?

[Eric Bolling]

Well, there's, there's good news and there's bad news. The bad news is that the year over year, the numbers 3.8, they're expecting 3.7. It's on an upward trajectory, Steve, as we expected because energy prices are going higher and they continue to drag everything up with it. Food, everything, everything goes with energy prices. Not a horrible number. But let's put in perspective that The Fed targets 2%. Inflation is where they would like the economy to grow and still be inflated. So you don't want no growth and no inflation. You want good growth and some inflation. It helps prop up the growth side of the equation. The bad news is wrong trajectory. And I would say there's something interesting playing out here at 3.8% year over year. Look, everyone can play this game of let's strip out food and energy, but that's insane. Everyone eats every day and uses energy every day. So you have to look at the, the main number, the headline number CPI 3 8. The Fed will be in a they in a buy in a corner so to speak. Warsh cannot lower rates with rates rising and at three point.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, tell the audience why this, this makes it very difficult for Wash and his confirmation is pushing through the June, I guess it's June availability. Why do you believe, given your experience in the pits of trading, why it will be highly unlikely that war will be able to have the flexibility to cut rates in June twofold.

[Eric Bolling]

Number one, the Fed is supposed to be an independent agency, independent of politics, independent certainly of the White House. What happened with Jerome Powell over the Biden years, the Bidenomics years, He failed to get in front of inflation. He let rates hold during that big massive rise in inflation. Trump gave Joe Biden 1.4% inflation. By middle of his term, 2022 or so, he had jacked it up to 9.3%. And in that period the Fed never raised rates to Slow the economy down. And we took him to the woodshed for that. I believe Powell is playing politics. He was trying to give, give Joe Biden some wind in the sails to try and maybe look towards a reelection. He was a political Fed chairman. If wars does the same thing, they will just destroy him. If he wants a job more than 30 months, which is the extent of Trump's term, he should be an independent Fed governor and not a governor, but chairman. He has the willpower, the power to move rates. He needs to hold. Here's the silver lining is that if it were still Jerome Powell, there's no question in my mind, Stephen K. Bannon, that we would be raising rates immediately because Powell is a politician, not necessarily a monetary policy person. He'll be raising now, should he or not maybe in a true, really independent manner. Yes, maybe you would raise a quarter a little bit just to ease the inflation. The reality is this isn't price inflation. This isn't things are costing more here in America. This is a geopolitical inflation rise. So maybe just a quarter, but certainly I don't see a rate, I don't see him dropping rates before, likely before the end of the year or he risks hyperinflation. That was, that would just take Republicans out of.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Are you further, are you seeing a structural problem here with the situation in the Gulf? Because the president gets on a plane here at about 1:45, 2:00 clock to head to, it's scheduled to head to Alaska and then to Beijing. The, the war in Iran. The Middle east is going to be a big topic of conversation. I don't personally believe they've cut the Chinese Communist Party off to force them to the table to have a great power solution here. But do you risk what like in Hormuz? The, the, the response from the Iranians said no, Hormuz is ours. And, and we got to be in charge of it. We got to make decisions. Netanyahu the other night on that 60 Minutes interview essentially said we really never thought of humor her moves. We never thought they'd get there. Your thoughts about all of this, sir, and how it ties back to inflation?

[Eric Bolling]

So there's an interesting theory floating around, certainly the oil patch and others, that the reason why oil isn't $140 a barrel right now, and it could be given that we've already taken a billion barrels of oil off the world markets. Granted we're doing fine here, so to speak, within relative terms to the rest of the world. But a lot of people are now floating this idea that the U.S. as you know, we've been talking about our massive exports in the US we're shipping out about 14 million barrels a day. That's about 4 or 5 million barrels higher than normal. And that may be some sort of concerted effort with shipping more barrels to the world market because we have them. And China has somehow reduced their pull on global oil markets by about 5 million barrels a day and they're draining their own SPR. So there are those that think that this meeting may be some sort of of confirmation of what the global oil market is doing. We're seeing United States putting more oil on the market, China pulling less oil off the market. It's kind of regulating, given this situation. This is the largest draw in global oil in the history of the world ever.

[Chip Roy]

Ever.

[Eric Bolling]

Now a billion barrels and it hasn't slowed down. The strait is still closed. Three vessels made it through with oil yesterday in the last 24 hours. Six total. Three of them had oil. That's not enough to kind of slow down this upward rise in prices. Can the United States and China, maybe China pull back on their poll and maybe we push a little bit out there to regulate prices until we get some sort of deal or ceasefire. Trump's right. Oil prices will drop like Iraq when it's over. However, he's not being quite, let's just say he's being overly optimistic to suggest that gas prices are, will come down anytime soon. They won't. We're kind of baked in the cake for a really, really crappy summer driving season with the price of oil, of gasoline, probably 450will be the low end of the price. Even if things get all clear in the Middle east.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You've got, you've got 4 million plus followers social media. What's your social media until we get back and hang out with you at

[Eric Bolling]

four o'clock today at Eric Bolling. Just, you know what Steve, this is really important. Let's just do this. We'll worry about social media crap later. But I appreciate your time here. We're telling people what they need to know going forward, not look backwards.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

See you for a changeover late in the 4 o' clock hour, sir. Thank you, Eric Bolling. The Eric Bolling. Okay folks, strap in. Next hour. Joe Allen, Jack Basobi, Captain James Fennell, Sam Faddis, maybe Mary Holland, New York Times. Times is on a jihad. She's absolutely correct. God that they hate Bobby Kennedy and Maha in the, in the anti vax movement. Birch Gold birchgold.com promo code war room end of the dollar empire make it all make sense. Eight free installments. No, it's free. And there's no obligation. Would be better than that. You get Philip, Patrick and the team to teach you pattern recognition when it comes to movements in physical gold. Check it out. Today it's totally free. Short break. Okay. Can we talk about what's really happening right now? New data shows financial stress is at an all time high. Millions of Americans are at a breaking point. Debt maxed out, no extra money, no room to breathe. And this isn't just lower income households anymore. Middle class families are hitting their limits too. This isn't about reckless spending. Everyday people are running out of options. So if debt has been weighing on you, you're not alone. And when it comes to debt, waiting usually makes it worse. Interest piles up. Minimum payments keep you stuck. You don't need another loan and you don't need bankruptcy. You need a strategy. That's why I like Done with Debt. They've built a smart personalized plan around you, their experience, and knowing what it takes to get you the biggest reductions possible. Whether you owe $10,000 or much more. Done with debt has one clear goal. Lower what you owe so you keep more of your paycheck every month. It's very simple. Let's repeat that. Lower what you owe so you can keep more of your paycheck every month. Start with a free consultation. It just takes minutes. Share your situation, your tale of woe, and find out what's possible. You do not have to stay stuck. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdeb.com and do it today.