Episode 5370: Assimilate Or Go Home; Taiwan Discussions During Xi Summit

Summary

Podcast Summary

Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5370: Assimilate Or Go Home; Taiwan Discussions During Xi Summit
Date: May 13, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: CIA whistleblower, Neil McCabe, Senator Tommy Tuberville, Congressman Andy Ogles, Bill Gertz (Washington Times)

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles three main themes:

1. Explosive congressional testimony alleging a CIA cover-up of COVID-19 origins and Anthony Fauci’s interference
2. U.S.-China relations ahead of President Trump’s summit with Xi Jinping, including issues over cybersecurity, election interference, and rare earths
3. Intensified debates over assimilation, immigration, and alleged infiltration of Islamists and CCP operatives in the U.S.

The tone is urgent, combative, and at times conspiratorial, with calls for accountability and tough U.S. responses domestically and abroad.

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Key Discussions & Insights

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1. The CIA, COVID-19 Origins, and Fauci’s Influence

[00:00 – 04:53]

• CIA whistleblower and former Army Special Forces officer testifies on the COVID-19 origin investigation, stating the intelligence community (IC) downplayed the lab leak theory under pressure from Anthony Fauci.
• Allegations of Cover-Up:
  • Intelligence agencies shifted from supporting the lab leak theory (Aug 12, 2021) to adopting a neutral stance (Aug 17, 2021).
  • The whistleblower claims Fauci "influenced the analytical process" by ensuring consultations only with “a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts.”
• Intelligence Community Noncompliance:
  • The CIA allegedly refused to hand over requested documentation.
  • “Dr. Fauci’s role in the COVID up was intentional.” – Whistleblower [00:55]
• Public Policy Impact:
  • Policy and public awareness would have been different if the lab leak theory had been acknowledged.
  • “Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for [vaccine] emergency use authorization...” – Whistleblower [01:37]

Notable Quote:

“We have documentation that shows that... the CIA was considering calling this a lab leak. August 12th of 2021. And then that changed on August 17th of 2021…We have no idea why that changed.”
— CIA Whistleblower [02:21]

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2. U.S.-China Relations, Election Interference, and Cyber Threats

[04:53 – 14:12 / 23:34 – 42:57]

A. The Xi-Trump Beijing Summit Anticipation

• Bannon frames China as a direct adversary: CCP engaged in bioweapons research, election interference (breaking into “18 state voter registration databases” in 2020), and espionage (e.g., “mayor in Arcadia, California”).
• Urges that Trump be tough in confronting Xi on these issues.

B. Economic & Geopolitical Stakes

• Senator Tuberville: Trump holds all the cards because “their country is dead broke” while the U.S. “has a full house.”
• Bill Gertz: Warns of the “detente” mindset—cites China’s rare earth dominance, massive cyber operations like "Salt Typhoon" and "Volt Typhoon," and the risk of U.S. push for economic accommodation.
  • “China can’t be trusted to do any agreement.” – Bill Gertz [35:26]
• Criticism of pro-China business delegates (Musk, Cook, Huang, Schwarzman): “You couldn’t put together a bigger group of demons.” – Bannon [36:04]

C. Cyber Attacks & Intellectual Property Theft

• Congressman Ogles (Chair, Cybersecurity for Homeland):
  • "China attacks us every single day…in the cyber sphere." [25:36]
  • Calls for “consequences” for IP theft and aggressive U.S. response in negotiations.

D. Decoupling with China
- “Should we cut off the Chinese from all chips, all students at MIT, all money? Go hardcore?” – Bannon [40:50]
- “Absolutely. There should be no doubt.” – Bill Gertz [41:14]

Notable Quotes:

“If you play that game with us, we are going to come…There's going to be a payback. There's going to be retribution.”
— Rep. Andy Ogles [30:21]

“China is an existential threat to the United States. They are on the march globally. They want to take over the world. The only impediment to that is the United States.”
— Bill Gertz [41:54]

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3. Assimilation, Immigration, and Islamism

[12:03 – 23:34 / 16:25 – 19:58]

• Senator Tuberville and Rep. Ogles deliver hardline positions on immigration and Muslims in America, with Tuberville warning of “Sharia supremacy” and “Islamists coming to impose their radical beliefs.”
  • Calls to “deport, deport, and deport” and only admit immigrants who “bring something to the table, have a job, [a] sponsor, instead of coming here and getting on welfare.” – Rep. Ogles [12:23]
• Unsubstantiated claims:
  • “Islamists aren’t coming here looking for a better life...They have no interest in adapting to American national identity. They want to change the national identity to mirror their death cult Islamic beliefs. You heard that? They're here to kill us all.” — Sen. Tuberville [13:26, repeated at 16:25]
• Accusations of lack of political courage among other lawmakers; assertion that “fear and intimidation” by the Biden administration deter forceful opposition.
  • “If you don’t love this country, you shouldn’t be here.” – Rep. Ogles [21:49]

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4. Deep State, Lawfare, and Political Prosecution

[25:47 – 28:17]

• Rep. Ogles describes feeling targeted by the DOJ (“They came after me, they’re taking my phone…Biden administration weaponized the Justice Department to try to shut me down" [20:43]), leading to fear among prospective public servants (“People who would like to serve…realize lawfare will destroy their careers”) [26:03].
• Bannon: “It’s also the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy that believes they run the country that came after you and targeted you and others, correct?”
• Ogles: “Absolutely. And that fear is real…” [27:30]

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5. Artificial Intelligence, Cyber Arms Race, and Economic Security

[31:06 – 32:48]

• Ogles warns that unregulated AI is as dangerous as nuclear arms; recounts jailbreaking AI to “construct a bomb” [31:26].
• Urges “guardrails” for AI, while stressing China “won’t put up those guardrails” and views dominance in AI and quantum computing as a new arms race.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |:---------:|:---|:----| | 00:55 | CIA Whistleblower (A) | “Dr. Fauci’s role in the COVID up was intentional.” | | 02:21 | CIA Whistleblower (A) | “It was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci’s injecting himself into the IC.” | | 13:26, 16:25 | Sen. Tuberville (D) | “Islamists aren’t coming here looking for a better life…They want to change the national identity to mirror their death cult Islamic beliefs…they’re here to kill us all.” | | 20:43 | Rep. Ogles (F) | “They came after me, they weaponized the Justice Department to try to shut me down.” | | 25:36 | Rep. Ogles (F) | “China attacks us every single day… in the cybersphere.” | | 30:21 | Rep. Ogles (F) | “If you play that game with us, we are going to come…There’s going to be retribution.” | | 41:54 | Bill Gertz (G) | “China is an existential threat to the United States. They are on the march globally. They want to take over the world.” |

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• CIA whistleblower testimony / COVID-19 origins: 00:00 – 04:53
• China coverage & cyber threats: 04:53 – 12:03; resumed 23:34 – 42:57
• Assimilation & anti-Sharia arguments: 12:03 – 19:58
• Deep State/lawfare allegations: 25:47 – 28:17
• AI/National security discussion: 31:06 – 32:48
• Wrap-up and Bill Gertz’s assessment of U.S.-China summit: 34:53 – 43:19

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Flow and Tone

The episode is urgent, adversarial, and deeply critical of entrenched governmental, scientific, and globalist institutions.
Bannon and guests repeatedly assert a narrative of betrayal (by politicians, the intelligence community, and business elites), impending national peril, and the need for bold, uncompromising action—whether in confronting China or radical Islam, reforming immigration, or supporting populist politicians.

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Conclusion

This episode lays out a combative, apocalyptic vision of internal and external enemies threatening the U.S.:

• The intelligence community and Fauci allegedly covering up COVID-19’s origins
• China’s overt and covert campaigns to undermine U.S. security, economy, and elections
• Radical Islam and mass immigration as existential threats to national identity
• “The deep state” using lawfare to crush dissent
  Throughout, Bannon’s refrain is for vigilance, retribution, and the necessity of fighting back—at home and abroad.

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For Further Reference

• Full episode coverage tonight of President Trump’s summit with Xi Jinping, 10pm–midnight
• Bill Gertz’s analyses at Gertzfile.com and “Victory Over Communism” podcast
• Congressman Andy Ogles: andyogles.com
• Senator Tuberville: coachforgov.com

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Transcript

[A]

I am a career CIA operations officer and as you mentioned, I was on joint duty assignment at the Office of Director, National Intelligence Directors Initiatives group or the dig. Between March 2025 and April 2026. I was responsible for leading the digs investigation into Covid origins, anomalous health incidents and unidentified anomalous phenomena. I'm here today to discuss the COVID cover up, the national security implications associated with the DIGGS investigative findings and CIA refusal to comply with lawful oversight, as well as how we remedy these problems. Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident. Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the DIGGS review. Intentional or not, the IC's actions resulted in cover up, wasted resources and a failure to properly inform policymakers. Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization MRNA products being mandated by the former administration. Dr. Fauci's role in the COVID up was intentional. Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper the proximal origin of SARS CoV 2 and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years.

[B]

But your conclusion is that changing from the scientific consensus of it being from a lab to a neutral position by the CIA was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci?

[A]

It was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci's injecting himself into the ic. And to go to the second part of your question about what happened, particularly during the 90 day study, we have documentation that shows that as of August 12th the CIA was considering calling this a lab leak. August 12th of 2021. And then that changed on August 17th of 2021 and unfortunately because the CIA would not provide us documentation that we asked for, we can't. We have no idea why that changed and that that's.

[B]

And they weren't alone because we know the FBI was coming to the same conclusion that it was lab leak as well as the FBI. Wednesday the 13th of May in the year of our Lord 2026. Okay, tonight at 10:00pm Eastern Daylight Time until midnight at least we're going to cover live President Trump's formal arrival in greeting by by the Chairman of the Communist Party of China Xi. We're going to Have Posobic and Solomon and so many other people here, Dr. Thayer, others for live coverage. So make sure you're back here. Real America's voice. The war room at 10pm tonight. It was a day explosive testimony on Capitol Hill. We're going to get to hopefully later the Sharia supremacy, the anti Sharia supremacy committee, Chip Roy and the team over there. Amazing testimony out of that. But a bombshell by a CIA officer who just I guess retired former army special Forces. We've got a team of all stars. A Senator Tuberville is going to join us. Congressman Andy Ogles is going to join us. Bill Gertz is going to join us. We're going to talk talk China. But we got to start with this revelation in front of Rand Paul's committee. Our own Neil McCabe was there. Neil, essentially what the war room has been hammering and people got to remember the reason the first time we were banned everywhere on all platforms, national platforms were because of Anthony Fauci and this exact topic of which they bought Collins Fauci, the entire apparatus, msnbc, all of them, bald face, lied about this. What did we find out today about Anthony Fauci panicking and getting into the. What they asked for was an independent assessment by the Central Intelligence Agency about the bioweapon lab at Wuhan. Sir.

[C]

Yeah, thanks, Steve. You know the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard set up the Director's investigation group the dig and the purpose of the dig is to sort of go back and find out what happened in different things. I'm reminded of in after the 2020 election they discovered that intelligence, what that was that said hey, there was no Russian interference, was deliberately altered as an official intelligence community assessment that they basically said oh we wait, there was Russian intelligence and now it. And for the 2016 campaign, excuse me, not for 20. And so here we have a guy who is looking into this for Tulsi Gabbard. He went to the CIA to find out what happened. He was an active duty CIA officer and the CIA blocked him at every turn. But he managed to find out that the analysis by the intelligence community about the lab leak theory was altered as we heard in the testimony between August 12th and August 17th of 2021. And the guy who was driving it was Dr. Fauci. Which means so many of the decisions that were made was based on the fact that the intelligence community said they had no consensus on the origins of COVID If they had come forward and said hey, it came from the Wuhan lab, which everyone agrees it happened then you could have made a whole other set of decisions, but it basically froze people from acting. And then of course, there was the COVID up. And so he basically went through how the CIA was absolutely not cooperative in his probe and he basically left the CIA recently to retire. And now he's coming forward to Senator Rand Paul, who, who was hosting this committee. Republicans showed up, none of the Democrats did. And it was, it was, it was absolutely mind blowing to listen to what he was explaining, to think it's like it's something we all knew was true, but we just were told it was, that we were imagining it.

[B]

Yeah. And now we got a guy from the inside and we'll get to that. Neil, hang on. Neil's went back at the White House. Hang on. Neil, I do want to talk to you about Sharia and more on this. Just hang on. I want to get the Senator Tuberville, Senator Topper, we're going to get to, we got a clip from you on this situation with assimilation in Islam. But I've got to ask you because you're one of the common sense folks up on Capitol Hill and you're very close to the President. We've got, we know and you know, the Wuhan lab were doing, you know, gain of function to power up these viruses to be bioweapons. You had a leak. Either they let it go purposely or it was a leak. Okay, you've got, we now know from John Solomon's reporting 18 states the Chinese Communist Party broke into the data sets of the voter registration to manipulate and defeat Trump in 2020 because President Trump was cleaning their clocks. Now, we know there's a mayor in Arcadia in suburban LA or the greater LA network, that is a town city, that is a Chinese Communist Party spy. And my sources tell me there are going to be thousands more that have come out when the FBI finishes this investigation. That all being said, right? Even leaving the economics aside and what they're trying to do in chips and AI, shouldn't the President have a pretty blunt conversation with Chairman Xi as the kind of kickoff tonight when we're covering this live, when they meet at the Forbidden City, shouldn't he have a very blunt conversation about what the Chinese Communist Party has tried to do as an enemy of the United States of America, Sir?

[D]

Yeah, I agree with you, Steve. You know, President Trump holds all the cards here. You know, their country is dead broke now. We're not far behind them now, but we've got a lot going for us. Our economy is going very well, but their Economy stinks. But President Trump has got a full, he's got a full house. And President Z has very few cards in his hand. So I would hope that he would try to get to the bottom of this. Steve, I was on the health committee when I first got here, went through all these interviews and hearings with Foushee. What a piece of trash. You know, this guy lied to the American people, killed a lot of American people. And I'm telling you, just listening to Todd Blanche, we had lunch with him today here in the Senate. And listen to all the problems that they're trying to cover with the Attorney General's office. You know, we're going to lose this country if we don't wake up and smell the roads. The American people are going to quit paying taxes. They've had enough of this nonsense. People need to go to jail. But I got off your point there, President Trump, I think that, you know, after probably getting briefed with what's going on here on Capitol Hill today, that there could be some discussion with the Chinese president about what happened. There's no doubt that it came from there. Probably was on purpose. But what near as bad as what, what they said it was. But at the end of the day, our federal government was absolutely atrocious. During the Biden's year, during COVID you

[B]

sat through, you sat through sworn testimony of Tony Fauci over and over again. Does anything the CIA whistleblower said today about Fauci got actively involved in the intelligence community to shut the probe down and to make sure the final report said from what the consensus was at the CIA and among the intelligence community that this was a lab leak of a weaponized virus from the military installment in Wuhan, China to. It was something that came from bats hanging out in caves, sir.

[D]

Yeah, it wasn't bad hanging out in caves. It was all originated and probably paid for by us through the gain of function research that Dr. Fauci just swore up and down that we weren't funding. But we found, since then we found out that he, he was funding it. And Rand Paul did a great job with, with, with all the hearings. He really kept up with this. Rand was on top of it being a doctor. He, he understood the vaccine, he understood the things that were going on. And he went after Fauci and, and again, we knew there was a problem about a year or so ago before President Trump went in, when President Biden pardoned Fauci. We knew that we were getting to the bottom of it. John Solomon's done a great job, all the people behind the scenes, this whistleblower, just one of many that's probably going to come out. But again, the American people need some retribution here. They need somebody to pay for the price for this. And again, this all started at the top. That was all orchestrated. And it put the American people in our country in a tailspin. And we probably, Steve, when I first got here, we spent $7 trillion, Joe Biden did, through reconciliation that we should have never spent. I mean, it's just amazing the money that we spent up here. And they all, it all went to the blue cities, the mayors and the governors that were dead broke, and money in the pockets of all these NGOs across the world.

[B]

Senator, let's go ahead and play. Let's go ahead and play. We're going to spend much more time on the Chinese situation. Let's go and play your clip and we'll get back to this assimilation issue.

[E]

So, Congressman, how do you measure that? How do you enforce that? That someone. I've seen how other countries measure it. I know what they do in Turkey. How do we do it? How do we measure assimilation?

[F]

Well, you know, like the senator said, the first thing, one of the things we have to do in this process, we have to deport, deport, and deport. And then you analyze those folks that are coming into this country. You got to love this country. You have to have something, bring something to the table, have a job, sponsor instead of coming here and getting on welfare. And look, the numbers are unsustainable as they are. This isn't me being prejudiced. This is simple math. We have deficits that are growing. We have spending that's out of control. President Trump is working to get those numbers, you know, back in line. But that takes time. Meanwhile, the Biden administration allowed our country to be invaded. We're taking a stand and saying enough is enough. We want our country back. And if you don't love this country, if you don't want to be a part of our country and provide and be a part of our society, you can get the hell out.

[E]

It seems pretty, pretty intuitive. I don't know how that can be accused of being prejudiced. I mean, anything, whether or not you're a company, a family or a nation, would be asking, should the people we invite into our front door who might be joining that company, family or country, actually want to, or do they want to come in here and ruin it?

[D]

Islamists aren't coming here looking for a better life. That's a true fallacy. They're Coming here to impose their radical beliefs on us and to mooch off the American taxpayers. Game, set, match. That's exactly why they're here. They're coming to impose everything they possibly can on the United States of America, get by with it and tear us down at the same time. They have no interest in adapting to American national identity. They want to change the national identity to mirror their death cult Islamic beliefs. You heard that? They're here to kill us all.

[B]

Senator Tuberville, pretty blunt. We got 30 seconds. I want to hold you through the break. Sir. How is that your blunt talk and assessment? How is that received by your colleagues in the Senate, sir?

[D]

Well, I'm the only senator that's really speaking out. I'm actually on that caucus of ship Roy's the, the no Sharia caucus. But at the end of the day, we've got to fix this immigration system, Steve. We've got to do something. We've got to prioritize, you know, who comes in this country. If we don't, we're going to lose it. I mean it's going down the drain fast. But we have to prioritize.

[B]

Senator Tuberville, just hang on for one second. A short commercial break. We've got Senator Tommy Tuberville, the other gentleman in that clip. First clip, Congressman Andy Ogles is with us. Also Bill Gertz. China, Islam in the war room, everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle east is raising oil prices. But there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being constrained. About one third of global fertilizer trade happens through this region. And with spring planting season on top of us, American farmers are sounding the alarm with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields. When one piece of the supply chain gets hit this hard, you know what comes next? Higher fruit prices, reduced availability, maybe even panic buying. That's why having an emergency food supply at home makes so much sense. And that's where our friends at my Patriot supply come in. Right [e-mail] that is preparewithbannon.com we've set up an entire just site for the war room posse. You go to prepare with Bannon.com. that's all one word. Preparewith Bannon.com you get a three month emergency food supply. Don't include a free mega protein Upgrade, an incredible $200 bonus you don't want to miss. It's a simple way to protect your family from whatever comes next. Go to preparewithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com to get your emergency food supply today. That's preparewithbannon.com do it today. Go check it out.

[D]

Islamists aren't coming here looking for a better life. That's a true fallacy. They're coming here to impose their radical beliefs on us and to mooch off the American taxpayers. Game, set, match. That's exactly why they're here. They're coming to impose everything they possibly can on the United States of America. Get by with it and terrorists down at the same time. They have no interest in adapting to American national identity. They want to change the national identity to mirror their death cult Islamic beliefs. You heard that? They're here to kill us all.

[B]

That is pretty blunt, Senator. Why are you the only senator that is part of the anti Sharia caucus? Sir, where are the rest of your colleagues?

[D]

Well, this is election year, Steve, and when you're in an election year, nobody wants to make any decisions. They want to straddle the fence. And we have some of our colleagues that we'll talk about a little bit, but they won't, they won't express it like I do. I'm worried to death. I'm worried to death. Our country is, is sinking fast because we've got our eyes shut. And again, it's, it's, it's something that we all should know up here. This place is not run on merit based when it comes to having leadership in the Senate. It's all based on seniority. You can have somebody step here 40 years and, and they might not be qualified to do any kind of job when it comes to chairmanships, but because of seniority they're here. We've got to change that. We've got to do everything merit based, get away from seniority and people will go home instead of get reelected. And we've talked about that before. Term limits make no difference. Just go to merit based selection on chairman and we'd be in good shape.

[B]

Senator, I want to, if you've talked to the President about this, but the data is so overwhelming about the scamming of the legal immigration system, the H1B visas. I mean we spent three months in Texas. We're going back there for this primary with, with ken Paxton. The HBV1 visas is just below the Sharia law problem. And people, once we gave them a permission structure to talk about Sharia law, it exploded. The folks out there in the United States see what the problem is every day and they're shocked that their representatives there's A handful of people like you and Congressman Ogles and Chip Roy and a handful of others that will take this on. But the rest know that you're the only member of the United States Senate as part of the anti Sharia caucus is not acceptable. Sir.

[D]

Well, the big thing that we need to tell and educate our people here in this country is that there's a reason that we're having a record amount of churches that are being burned, Christian churches. There's a reason why we have a record amount of mosque that are being built all over this country. And it started the same way in Europe and now look where they're at. Europe is gone. They're going to have to fight in the streets to get their, their countries back. Italy, France, Germany, the UK we're going to do the same thing if we don't wake up and stop this nonsense as we speak. And I want to thank Andy Ogles here for what he's doing and Chip Roy, all the group over there. But we need to get more people in line with this, especially the senators over speaking about this because it's going to be too late if we, if we continue to put this off.

[B]

Senator Tuberville, your staff saying you got to go vote now. Thank you for coming on. Where do people, what are the social media? You're one of the truth tellers up there that folks want to follow where they go. Sir.

[D]

Coach for gov. That's what we got, Steve. Election next week.

[B]

Coach Forgov sir, thank you very much. We will follow that closely. Running for the governorship of Alabama in the primary. Thank you, sir. Go with God. Andy Ogles, Congressman, you've been a fierce warrior on these topics. The most important to the MAGA base and to the grassroots in this country. The question is why is it a handful and why is it always the same handful of people that are out there that have the courage to come forward and speak out?

[F]

Sir Well, I mean, I think why you see so few people willing to say the, you know, really lead on these difficult conversations is look what they did to you. Look what they did to me. I've spent, you know, under the Biden administration. They came after me, they weaponized the Justice Department to try to shut me down. But I was going after Jack Smith, I was going after Kamala Harris had impeachment articles. And just a few weeks later, after I had done those things, they're coming after me, they're taking my phone. And so there's this environment of intimidation that existed under the Biden administration, an administration that we knew that was corrupt. Right, right. And if you dare speak out, if you dare try to hold them accountable, they came after you. You know it better than anyone. President Trump knows it better than anyone. I got a two year colonoscopy from the Justice Department because of the Biden administration. And so. But I never backed down. I held firm in my belief. I trusted in God. And at the end of the day, you just keep moving forward. And these, these conversations that we're having are important to the American people because our country's being invaded. The southern border was wide open. They led in terrorists, they let in murderers, they let in rapists. And I'm sick of this crap and I'm not going to stand by and let this happen. We need to deport these people. We need to send them back to their countries. And by the way, if you don't love this country, you shouldn't be here.

[B]

The fierceness of you and a handful of others. Why is leadership. Because this is a winning formula. This is how we won in 16. This is how we won again in 20 when they stole it. This is how he came back from the greatest, you know, steal and suppression and oppression ever to win again. Record numbers in 24. This is a winning formula. The people in the United States will have your back. What is House leadership? What don't they get about these topics?

[F]

Well, again, you know, there's, there is an environment of fear. You have this slim majority and I think that sometimes they overthink it. Just, just do the right thing. The American people, when you look at immigration, when you look at the economy, when you look at the issues we have with China, these are kitchen table type of topics that people are talking about, that they're worried about. And if you talk to the American, the average person, and you address the things that they're worried about that they're concerned about, the rest take care of itself. Right. It's just at the end of the day, it's common sense. And so sometimes I get called a hero and a champion. And at the end of the day, I'm just doing what my constituents elected me to do.

[D]

Right.

[F]

John Quincy Adams, he liked the House representative because it's where you argue and debated. And my job is to argue on behalf of the, the American people. And the American people are tired of this crap. They're tired of giving their country away to the Somalis and the Chinese and to these people from south and Central America that they come here, they steal, they rape and they murder Americans. Enough is enough. This is common sense.

[B]

You are a hero because you step up and you won't back down. Let's just talk. President Trump is going to, you know, we're going to cover it live tonight from 10 to midnight. Posovic, Solomon, the entire raft crew. We're going to have Thayer and others. You know, we just had testimony day. The CIA about the lab. You know about the lab. You've been hammering it for years. You saw where now John Solomon's breaking. They broke into 18 to 24 state databases for voter registration to change the thing on the 2020 election. Now you got a mayor, and the mayor admitted that she's a spy for the Chinese Communist Party. In my understanding, there's gonna be thousands more that come out. Given all that, how can we even have a discussion talking about trade when we got to get through, hey, what you're doing to us in this war that you have against the United States of America, sir?

[F]

Well, you know, I think the President goes to China with. With a strong hand, you know, so I'm chairman of cybersecurity for Homeland, also includes AI. And you know, when I get the classified briefings, I get some the types of classified classified briefings that most members of Congress don't get. And what I can tell you is China attacks us every single day. There's a. There's another war that's taking place. It's that unseen war, and it's in the cybersphere and China is trying to attack and steal. They steal intellectual property. And so the President is able to go to China and we know, like, we've caught him red handed. And so, you know, at the end of the day, this is. There's an economic component to it. When you look at oil, when you look at the war in Iran, there's. There's a lot to unpack there. But the end of the day, they are another global power. They're not as great as America, but they want to be. They want to take us out, quite frankly. And the President knows that. He understands that. And so, you know, President is a shrewd negotiator. Art of the deal. And he'll be there arguing. And quite frankly, on behalf of the

[B]

American people, you're saying from the briefings you got, these are daily cyber attacks.

[F]

Every day, Every day, all day.

[B]

Okay, hang on. We got a clip for you. I want to play it. I'm going to come back, we're going to go to commercial break and stick with Congressman Andy Owens. Let's go and play the clip live

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out in the country on top of a hill, on a farm. So these cars were out of place. And he comes in and says, dad, there's some cars across the street. Well, it turns out those cars were the FBI. If you cut a deal and walk away from your political office, if you would stop the fight, the persecution would go away.

[B]

And I said, buddy, if we don't get out of politics, they're going to

[F]

destroy us personally, they're going to destroy us financially, they're going to destroy us politically. People who would like to serve in this administration, people who would like to repair the damage done by the partisan acts of the Biden administration, pretty reluctant to do so because they realize the less lawfare will destroy their careers as well.

[B]

The FBI opened a secret preliminary investigation on me called Operation Rampart 12. Contractor Booz Allen went out and stole my. My tax returns and gave it ProPublica. Biden administration did nothing. Trump is in China right now. These are stories I would expect to hear at a press conference over there. There may be a day that if

[F]

you print a story and it's not

[B]

to the liking of the deep state, who are the epitome of weaponized wiretaps, you may not be able to write that story.

[F]

So over the last two years, we've had to fight to clear my name, and to this day, our son still has nightmares that the Biden administration, in the middle of the night or some morning is going to come in and take his dad away.

[B]

Congressman Ogles, it's not simply the Biden administration, it's also the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy that believes that they run the country that came after you and targeted you and others, correct?

[F]

Absolutely. And that fear is real. So when you look at that video, by the way, shout out to Giancarlo for making it. He did a great job. But that being said, it's real. I mean, even today, even though that Trump is. He's the President, United States, he's the Commander in chief, he's a friend. And knowing that he's a friend and knowing that he's righting the wrongs that were done under the Biden administration, there's a part of me, when I get up in the morning, the first thing I do is I look out my front window because there's that, that. That trauma, that ptsd, if you will. And I'm not comparing myself to any soldier that has ptsd, full disclosure. But that being said, it's real because it changes the way you think about life. Understanding that they want to take you out yeah, right. They're coming.

[B]

Hang on one second. We got a short break. Congressman Andy Ogles from Tennessee. Next. The dollar's convertibility into gold ended in 1971. Gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Well, fast forward to today and the US dollar has lost over 85% of its purchasing power. Gold, on the other hand, is increased in value by over 12,000%. That's why Central banks are buying gold at record levels. That's why major firms like Vanguard and BlackRock hold significant positions in gold. And that's why I encourage you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold Group. But it starts with education. Birch Gold just announced their Learn and Earn Precious Metals event. This free online event rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get a free silver on your next purchase. Get even larger incentives as you go. The more you learn, the more you can earn. But you must act now as this special event only runs through April 30th. The dollar lost its anchor in 1971. You don't have to lose yours. Text my name, Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 to join Birch Gold's Learn and Earn Precious Metals event by April 30th. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Congressman, the President thinks very highly of you because you're a fighter. He likes the cut of your jib, as we say in the Navy. Given everything that's going on, Iran, the war, the economy. We just had a bad print today in inflation that you're one of the leaders of the anti CCP movement. What would you think would be our best outcome? And what advice would you give the President of the United States in this two day negotiation? He's going to be there over in Beijing with Xing, sir.

[F]

Absolutely. We have to leave from a position of strength. And they need to understand if you want access to our markets, we have access to yours. They need to understand that if you steal our ip, there's going to be a consequence. There's an example where China hacked a European auto manufacturer. They stole their intellectual property, they used it in their cars, byd, they put malicious software in that European manufacturer's car, set them back a year. And so this is, this is how China operates. And if you play that game with us, we are going to come, we're going to. There's going to be a payback. There's going to be retribution. In the same way if Mexico were to launch a mortar into Texas, there's going to be a response. China needs to understand if you hack our companies, if you steal our ip, we're tired of the nonsense. We're playing for keeps and we're going to come back at you.

[B]

Congressman, you chaired the subcommittee on cyber given AI. What we've heard of Anthropic and the Mythos preview, and now we heard Google talking about a AI cyber attack. Are you more optimistic or less optimistic that we can get our hands around this thing with AI and these cyber attacks, sir?

[F]

Well, I mean, AI is an incredible tool. And just for your audience to understand, you know, the United States of America, we are the Dominan Predator across all landscapes. So air, sea, cyber space, we own it all. But that being said, AI is something that can change that dynamic quickly. And you know, in my role, I've had the opportunity to use kind of a jailbroken or unrestricted AI and I was able to get it to help me construct a bomb. Quite frankly, it even told me how to make a detonation device, what, how I should transport it. So it can also be used for very dangerous ways and means. And so we need to put up guardrails to keep Americans safe. But we also need to understand that China is not going to put up those guardrails. They're pushing forward because they want to beat us in quantum computing and they want us to beat us as far as the agents and their capability for artificial intelligence. And so we're in a new arms race. So before with Russia, it was nukes, who had the most nukes, who had the fastest missiles. This new arms race is over cyber AI and over course computing power. And so we need to understand that China is our adversary. They don't play fair. And we need to understand that in any negotiation, in any relationship that we have with China, that they cheat and they will steal.

[B]

Congressman, where do people follow you, sir?

[F]

You can go to Repogles, you can go to andyogels.com, i'm pretty easy to find. I'm out there all the time and certainly appreciate your support and hey, I'm up for election this go around so check it out and appreciate you your listeners and quite frankly, you never backed down, they came after you and here you are back on air fighting for freedom. And for that I thank you.

[B]

Thank you, Congressman. Look forward to covering your race. No, you got a new sir. Been redistricted. Congressman Andy Ogles. That's A fighter. Let's go ahead. We're going to be here at 10 o' clock tonight. Let's go and play the promo and then we'll bring in the great Bill Gertz. Tonight, the eyes of the world are locked on Beijing. The two greatest superpowers on earth meeting face to face. President Donald Trump and Xi Jinping, two leaders whose decisions could reshape the future of the planet. He's for China and I'm for the usa and it's very simple. What will be decided about Iran, what will be said about Taiwan, and who will emerge as the economic superpower of the future. Behind closed doors, the stakes could not be higher. Markets, militaries, allies, enemies, the whole world watching every move together. Real America's voice and the war room are taking you inside the story. We're at war with China. My recommendation is throw down bar, join Steve Bannon alongside special guest Jack Posic and more Trump in China. Special coverage begins tonight, 10pm Eastern to midnight only on Real America. That's the way it is. That's the way it stands. We're going to do very well. Bill Gertz joins us from the Washington Times. Bill Gertz is the original gangster of covering the Chinese Communist Party in a very deep and thorough way. Bill, you had a table setter what I called the other day in the Washington Times. Can you walk us through your thoughts as we get ready to do live coverage tonight at 10:00pm Eastern Daylight Time of President Trump being greeted and received by the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party, Chairman Xi.

[G]

Yeah, we're looking at pretty much of a standoff between the US And China. And the business side of things I think is very significant in the president's entourage. He's got a group of pro China business people, Elon Musk, Tim Cook, Jensen Huang, and they want to make deals. On the positive side, we've got Marco Rubio, Cuban American, anti communist, and Pete Hegseth, I think, was the big stick for the president's group. That's in China. I'm very concerned about the discussions on artificial intelligence. This is a Trojan horse for the Chinese. They want to do some type of quote, AI safety agreement that is don't connect your AI to the nuclear things. China can't be trusted to do any agreement. I think the Chinese will say, or Xi Jinping will tell Trump. He'll say, yeah, sure, we'll agree to AI safety as long as you loosen all controls on the most advanced Nvidia air chips.

[B]

Well, you've got Jensen. Look, I'M blunt. I think Elon Musk and Jensen Huang are agents of influence for the Chinese Communist Party. Elon's been financed through Tesla and other things. His mother's over there right now. As a TV personality and TV star, he's up to his neck in the hundredth anniversary of the ccp. He put out glowing tweets about how great they were. Jensen Huang's worse. Jensen Huang has said, oh, you know, these guys want to do business, and they're good, and you can trust them. And it doesn't matter if China wins the AI race. It doesn't matter if a Chinese company wins the AR race. He just wants to sell them more advanced ships. So given that's a reality, right? And these guys say we. And look at the cast of Case Got Fink, he's got Schwarzman, he's got Elon Musk, he's got. You couldn't put together a bigger group of demons to come there. And they want to open China. And President Trump, I realized he's trying to balance a lot, including the global economy. But the Chinese Communist Party, you know, the pandemic out of the Wuhan lab. You heard the CIA officer today. The mayor of Arcadia is one of thousands that are out there. They broke into 20. They 20 databases of states to assist Biden, who was on their payroll, to steal the 2020 election from President Trump. President Trump's the only person, Bill, as you know, because he reads you your columns constantly, is the only ones ever stood up to China. But now they want to because of the economic problem and the problem in the Middle East. They want some sort of accommodation. Sir.

[G]

Yeah. To me, the inflection point was about the middle of last year when China announced it was imposing export restrictions on rare earths. The Communist Party views its control over rare earths as a major trump card. Sorry for the pun there, but a major trump card. They control, like, 90% of the rare earths, which are needed for everything from warplanes to automobiles. And that was a shock to the Trump administration. Trump had been putting in tariffs. I think at one point, they reached on China 147%. Well, everything changed after that. And then fast forward to the October summit in South Korea, and they backed down. There was a truce in the trade war. Now we're seeing a detente. Remember detente? Yeah. The Soviet Union. Right. That was in the 70s when we decided we were going to do arms agreements with the Soviet Union. And again, basically, it was bolstering this communist regime. It was not regime change in Moscow, which Reagan successfully orchestrated. So I think there's a lot of dangers in this summit.

[B]

Well they're also arming, they're doing the overland route and arming the Persians, that's their ally. They're trying to break the US dollar and get us off the petrodollar with doing the deals in Chinese yuan. Also they've got the, as Sam Faddis says, the 25 ships off of Malaysia that they're trying to get the oil through to basically get around sanctions every second. What would be your, given the situation we are in Iran, what would be your recommendation to the President states as he kicks off tonight at 10pm as he kicks off the beginning of looks like an eight hour negotiation, sir?

[G]

Well I think the first thing would be, I mean there would be two or three main things but the first thing that the President should bring up is Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon. Those are the code names by security researchers for massive Chinese hacking operations. And not just to steal information, for cyber sabotage, to get inside of all of our critical infrastructures, water, communications, electrical grid, financial sector, every area. They are inside the wire right now with those penetrations and access points. Back in 2015 we saw Obama fecklessly try to reach an agreement with Xi Jinping say hey, don't hack us, we won't hack you. Guess who lied, you know, the Chinese. So really I think that that should be a starting point that what the Chinese have done cyber wise to our infrastructure and theft. It's, and it's all connected to AI. You know, they're massive data collectors. All they need from us is the advanced computer chips and they'll have the most advanced artificial intelligence systems.

[B]

Should we cut off, we cut off Jensen Huang and these guys are sitting there wanting to press to sell more chips. Should we cut the Chinese all the ecosystem, cut them off of all chips, cut them off of every kid here studying at mit, Cut them off of everybody in American company, in a US lab, all money. Think you can't give them a debt Schwartzman, you can't give them equity? Go hardcore. Is that what actually should happen here, sir?

[G]

Oh absolutely. There should be no doubt. I wouldn't, I wouldn't see. I agree with Sam Faddis. The President should never have gone to China considering the conditions that there are. But you know, Trump sees himself as a great deal maker. He doesn't understand the nature. Excuse me, got got a cough here. He doesn't understand the nature, the ideological nature of his interlocutor. Xi Jinping is a hardline communist. He's trying to manage Trump. He's trying to flatter Trump. He knows Trump likes to make deals. The Chinese, they don't believe in deals. You know, I had a friend who spent 15 years doing business in China. He said, for the Chinese, a deal is only valid on the day that it's signed, as soon as the conditions changed. After that day, the Chinese don't feel bound by any deals or agreements. I don't think Trump fully understands that, but yet he wants to get a lot of business deals. He wants to he wants Boeing to sell some jetliners. He wants to get China to buy some soybeans. But he needs to understand that China is an existential threat to the United States. They are on the march globally. They want to take over the world. The only impediment to that is the United States. The other narrative that China is pushing is this notion that the US Is in decline and China is in the ascension. Trump is trying to disabuse Xi Jinping of that notion, but I think he's got an uphill battle in trying to do that.

[B]

Bill Gertz, where do we go? We're going to push out the Washington Times, your font of information, where social media, website, books, where do people go?

[G]

Gertzfile.com or all my books are on Amazon and of course, the Washington Times. I have a weekly column Inside the Ring, and I also do a podcast, victory Over Communism with Bill Gertz.

[B]

Sir, you're one of the original warriors here and the mentor to all of us. So thank you very much. Bill Gertz.

[G]

Thank you, Steve. Keep up the great work.

[B]

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Right?

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And I've got a business degree and worked at Goldman. It's on that way for purpose, but it's structurally a purpose. But in addition, there's $100 billion of fees that the insurance companies want to make sure that they're getting the lion's share if not all of sir, yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you brother. Appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow in the morning hour. Okay, John Solomon's up on Rev. We continue with our second hour of the War Room on all of our platforms. I am back here with an all star crew including John Solomon and Jack Bassopic and others from the Rav universe plus even others. 10pm tonight live. President Trump and Chairman Xi. One on one. This year marks a critical moment for our country. As the opposition grows more aggressive and more unapologetic. The fight now reaches into the everyday decisions we make. Patriot Mobile has standing, has been standing on the front lines fighting for freedom for more than 12 years. They just don't deliver top tier wireless service. They are activists like me and like you in the war room posse who truly care about this republic and saving our country. Patriot Mobile office prioritized premium access on all three major US networks giving you the same or better coverage than the main carriers themselves. That means fast speeds and dependable nationwide coverage. Backed by 100% US based customer service. They also offer unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming and more. With a simple seamless activation, you can switch in minutes, keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. And here's the difference. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you'll be part of a powerful stream of giving that directly funds the Christian conservative movement. Take a stand today. Go to patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot. That's 972 Patriot. And use promo code Bannon for a free month of service. Don't wait, do it today. That's patriotmobile.com/bannon or call 972-patriot and join the team today.