
Episode 5373: Redistricting Showdown In South Carolina...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Breaking tonight, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp is bending to Donald Trump's will. He just called state lawmakers back for a special session on June 17 to redraw their congressional map to advantage Republicans for the 2028 election. Meanwhile, in South Carolina, a handful of Republican state senators have at least temporarily derailed an effort to carve up the district held by the state's only Democratic and only black Congressman, Jim Clyburn. This was Senate Majority Leader Shane Massie just yesterday.
Brian T. Kennedy
If we're going to lose this radical
Steve
idea of a nation conceived in liberty
Brian T. Kennedy
and dedicated to the proposition that all
Alex DeGrasse
men are created equal, if that's going to happen, Mr. President,
Steve
by God, it's
Alex DeGrasse
not going to be because I surrendered it.
Steve
I'm voting no.
Simone
Gerrymandering forces you to convince yourself that the voters are going to behave the same way they have in the past. And what we have seen over the last few cycles is that voters, Democrat, Republican and independent, are willing to try new things because how terrible things are going in this country for them, especially low income folks. And so you can't draw things expecting those voters to do the same thing. So you can. But then what's going to happen in November may not be what you think. And if you talk to experts on this, it's called dummy mandering, where you cut up things so much that at the end of the day, you have, you have messed yourself up. And there are a lot of these Republican states that have been gerrymandering for so long that that's where they're going to end up. You talked about Kemp at the beginning, Alicia, and I just want to read something from the AJC that I thought was really interesting. Kemp has ruled out changing the maps for this year's races, but Republicans are moving to act now while they are certain a GOP governor can sign the new districts into law, certain a GOP governor can sign the new districts into law. That tells me that things in Georg are looking a little bluer than they did before. Right. Because otherwise they wouldn't be doing this, it seems.
Stephen K. Bannon
I appreciate that reading of the tea leaves. It also reinforces, Simone, what, what is at the foundation of this, which is why it has been easier for Republicans to execute on some of this redistricting, which is they just have a lot more places where they have the trifecta and they understand the power of the trifecta. They understand they need to have control of the state legislature, they need to have the governor who is in place, who can sign off on whatever it is the state Legislature pushes through. But to Eugene's point, there is a window of opportunity for them there that they now have to decide if they want to exploit. And where we started this conversation, the potential risk, Simone, of their choosing to exploit it.
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Steve
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Steve
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Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, so we're hearing that there should be any moment probably, hopefully while we're live here in the war room, that they'll be announcing a special session that, you know, they'll have the votes to do. Now, when they previously had the vote in South Carolina, it was a resolution they needed, I believe, two thirds. And if they were to do the special session and go, it would just be like a bill format, so they would just need a majority. We feel confident that we've got the votes. Obviously, it's a slog, but, you know, things are moving. People are working hard. The White House is out there working and a lot of us, Caroline, Ryan, myself, everyone's hammering the phones and other posse's out there. So look, it's very positive, so we should be able to net one there. We're obviously on track for, you know.
Steve
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I don't want to get ahead of the thing here that I want people to understand how historic this is. This is to go, I believe, seven and. Oh, in. In South Carolina, sir.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, that's exactly seven.
Steve
And Jim. And this is Jim Clyburn that this, this is the seat that he's. He's held forever and become. I mean, Clyburn without Clyburn controlling that unconstitutional seat. Joe Biden is not the President United States. Am I correct on that?
Alex DeGrasse
That's right. That's exactly right. And good talking. Unconstitutional. And that's. I mean, that's exactly correct.
Steve
So this is. And for. For the movement here is nothing short of amazing because this thing is, you know, a week ago. No, A couple days ago, maybe a couple of days ago, yes. Then a hard no. Just take us through the ups and downs because there's been some real heroes in this, including that Governor McMaster, sir.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, that's exactly. I mean, it's. Look, we said this was going to be a good exercise, Steve, because it obviously unraveled and laid bare some of these people and some of these traders within our own party. And I think it's great exercise in many regards, Steve. So obviously we all saw what they did in South Carolina. They were showing that on the open, and it's just disgraceful. But, you know, with a clasher, they only need 26 votes before they needed a 31. So, you know, we apparently got the votes, everything. It was a knife fight. So that's positive. So we're going to see how this plays out. But nothing's obviously done until it's done. So I think in South Carolina, I mean, everything has just been the craziest. I mean, you look at what Caroline Wren has done, you look at what the White House and, and Adam Kincaid at the National Redistricting Trust. I mean, these. Everyone's been putting this on their shoulder for years. I mean, in this, you know, Steve, we're looking at 10, maybe 12, I mean, net. And that's what I said a year ago when we first talked about this. Eight months. Whenever, when we said, you said, alex, what do we need minimum to hold the house? I said, look, minimum, 10. Now, we just spoke, Steve. Obviously we've got seven on the board, which is insane.
Steve
Hang on, hang on. And I do want to give a Shout out to the guys in the south, men and women in the, in the, in the South Carolina house. Also the lieutenant governor. Just give me. Give me a minute on her. She is beyond a rock star. Talk about her for a second.
Alex DeGrasse
Well, I've got a lot of friends that work for. I don't know her personally, but she's out there hammering. And I know she's got great people working for. I know I got a lot of friends in South Carolina and they're voters for her. So, you know, a lot of people are excited about her race. So that's great to see. I think she may be leading. I'm not sure it's a tight governor race, but, you know, look, she was out there, and I think she's moving votes, and that's huge because this is the type, like these moments, which we faced many of these, Steve, you know, when you see people rise up and really move people and really, you know, move this movement forward, like, that only happens so often. And she seems to be one of those people, so that's great. I mean, she deserves a lot of credit.
Steve
You were Stefanic strategist. I just want people in this audience to understand because we're going to go through a list that we left on the table as of right now, seven. Okay. And then we're going to get to the net number and all that. We're going to keep you through the next break. For the whole next segment, when you were Stefan with Stefanik in the house, just tell the audience how. What an iconic figure Clyburn is. Sir.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, you know, I mean, really, the Congressional Black Caucus, the power base among this sort of, I guess, you know, di. I mean, they have a lot of money, I mean, even from corporations, Steve, because they kind of go and they shake down all these corporations and they, you know, they kind of have this DI budget. I mean, really, it's a ton of money. Money and power. And you look at. Obviously, he totally anointed Joe Biden. I mean, let's rewind back. Buttigieg. Coming out of Iowa, you had all this happening and things are all over the place. And then it was like that one night, Steve, remember, you had all, you know, Clyburn indoors. Someone else dropped out. Was it war? You know, everything just kind of shifted. And then, boom, Biden was the guy and then he became the Cannon, and they obviously stole the election.
Steve
So, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Buttigieg, I think he won Iowa and was second in New Hampshire. I mean, nobody's ever done that With Biden was fourth or fifth in Iowa and fourth or fifth in New Hampshire. You had a guy on a roll, yet another guy that was finished. The old guy was finished. They get to South Carolina and Jim Clyburn essentially made the decision that black people would not get him back of a gay candidate on a national level. They had to have somebody to take out Trump. He knew Biden forever. He literally shifted, put it on his shoulders and changed the dynamic in the 2020 Democratic primary, did he not?
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, I mean, it was a remarkable just show of the machinations of the Democrat Party, which is obviously a corrupt criminal enterprise when you look at it. So especially with everything coming out in act Blue and obviously all these unconstitutional seats and the census and the illegals is unbelievable. So, I mean, yeah, really, what a, what an insane thing. And now that that will be gutted. It's huge. I mean, you know, there.
Steve
I mean, that shows you the panicking, that shows you the courage of what's happening in South Carolina as we speak on this show. McMasters call a special session and take. And the fighting has been inside the Republican Party. But this is a national. MSNBC will melt down like the nuclear reactor meltdown. Right. A Three Mile island when this happens. Because this is different than just some seed and some guy. This is James Clyburns having his House seat taken as the seventh seat that these patriots in South Carolina are saying it's unconstitutional. We've lived under this forever. We don't care how powerful he is, we're going to take it. That's true heroism. That's profile and courage.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, that's exactly right, Steve. I mean, I mean, they have. I mean, I was just reading an article about how like the Congressional Black Caucus is just getting decimated since they have all these, you know, unconstitutional seats. And, you know, this is going to take them forever to recover. I mean, you'll have to see essentially a new Democrat party once we deal with the census and we, you know, play this out because, you know, we talk about those seven seats. I mean, you know, if we can hold the House, God willing, and pick up another seven or eight, you know, next time, too. I mean, this stuff. And then you can roll into the census. We not got the illegal immigrants. That's 30, 40 seats.
Steve
Hang on. So what we're going to do is take. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back and we're going to talk about six states and seven that we're leaving on the table. And the question gets to be why are we leaving on the table? Particularly if they take the House by one seat. Hakeem Jeffries will run it like he's got a 30 seat majority. This is trench warfare. There are seven seats we are leaving on the table that are right there. They are unconstitutional and can be changed. Short commercial break Birchgold.com Some of the big discussions behind closed doors in Beijing is about the US Dollar as a prime reserve currency. What the Chinese Communist Party and the BRICS nations are trying to do about it. Particularly to break down the dollar as the petro dollar. Find out what all that means. Birchgold.combannon the end of the dollar empire. It's free. No obligations. 7. Eight free installments. 8. And you get to talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Do it today. Short break Al degrasse On the other side. If you're 65 or already on Medicare, listen up folks and grab a pen, maybe even a number two pencil. Call 845-WAR room. That's 845-WAR room. Call it right now. I'm serious. Call it now. Here's why. The insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. Rising premiums, denied claims, fine print. Nobody but a lobbyist understands millions of American seniors are paying too much and getting too little. And worst of all, most don't even know it. Hey, that could be you. That's why if you're already on Medicare or will be soon, you need to talk to our friends at Chapter. They have a team of advisors trained to serve American seniors, not the insurance companies. In under 20 minutes they can find you the best plan for your needs at the lowest cost. Why? They're a data company. They have all the data on every plan. It's totally free. There's no pressure, no bs, just straightforward honest help from fellow patriots. So don't wait. Call 845 war room right now. That's 845 war room. Tell em Bannon sent you. Now listen, in the first couple of days of the launch of this company with the Warren Posse, Posse members saved tens and up to hundreds of thousands collectively of dollars in these fees. Go check it out today. That's chapter call 845 war room. Do it today.
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Steve
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Alex Agrass. I want to go to the seven and I want people to understand we're leaving seven on the table. Five of those are related to the Supreme Court decision about being unconstitutional and two of Those we're just leaving on the table. Let's go. What is the latest in Mississippi?
Alex DeGrasse
Just pull up my notes so I have it right. So Mississippi, you know, they were pretty far into their primary. You know, people were. Lots of people had voted. You know, it wasn't just sort of the mail ballots and everything else, so, you know, that they got canceled there. They really need a judge to have ordered that. It's been a tough. So they're expected to take up all of their maps for the 2028 in the next regular session.
Steve
Okay, that's. That's just. That's as weak. It's. I thought. I thought the. I thought the governor called. He was the first guy to call a special session. What happened about that just kind of crumbled.
Alex DeGrasse
I think people, I think, are nervous about the. The voting. That's pretty, you know, pretty past. You know, I think the election is coming right up. So I think that they were nervous about that and thought that, you know, they would try to do it. They were losing court.
Steve
Right.
Alex DeGrasse
So, I mean, sometimes, Steve, it's not just totally cowards, but sometimes people are nervous about, you know, hey, if they roll this dice and they could. The whole thing can blow up.
Steve
So, okay, Georgia, the Kemp. The Kemp machine that's associated, that's affiliated with the Bush machine, is very arrogantly. And of course, MSNBC is a meltdown because he just called a special session, or he called him back for a special session to pass it for 28.
Alex DeGrasse
But here's not for this. May.
Steve
Here's. Here we are. May we leave two on the table in Georgia, including two of the worst.
Alex DeGrasse
Sir, that's exactly right. We're hoping they're. They're telling people at least they'll pick up one, maybe even leave one on the table for 20, 28, which would be crazy. Obviously, we'd want to. So we'll see how that has to develop. But, yeah, it's very obviously shameful. There's no excuse in Georgia, you know, they don't have their primary anytime soon.
Steve
There's no pressure. There's no pressure the White House could have put on them. There's no holding back of some sort of bridge or something. They absolutely need to say, kemp, you gotta go off the dime because you're one of the major causes for the election steal of not standing up to the steal in 2020.
Neil McCabe
Sir.
Alex DeGrasse
You know, I'm not familiar exactly with those conversations with the White House, but certainly, I mean, like you said, Steve, it would be really horrible if we lost the majority by one seat. And you look at someone like Brian Camp who would be responsible for obviously the, you know, the partial destruction, you know, and possibly the president.
Steve
He would love that. He would love that. The Bushes would love that. That's where they're doing it. That's why they're doing it. That's why we have two seats unconstitutional, folks in Georgia, two unconstitutional seats deemed by the Supreme Court of the United States. And your political class down there has done nothing about it for this midterm because they want Trump impeached. Alabama, we're still leaving one on the table in Alabama, South Carolina, showing you how you go seven zero. Why is Alabama leaving one on the table?
Alex DeGrasse
I actually don't know, which is crazy, but they should. And they can possibly move to a 7 0. Looks like there's some possible lawsuits that might try to block it. So I think if they go to court or anything, then they have the opportunity to just change it and do a seven out, which they should do. So that's the message to Alabama. You know, I think, Steve, some of these people, you know, they want more comfort. They want, you know, the, the one win. They want to keep their safe seats. I mean, you know, that's sort of the problem.
Steve
But Alabama, Louisiana is another example. They were going six one, both of them. But it's not good enough. You have the ability to pick up these additional seats, correct?
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, I mean, certainly there's one on the table there. One on the table there. And you know, you know, I'm being told by people in Louisiana that hey, you know, they're giving me the reasoning of hey, we stretched it, we could lose in court. And they claim in Louisiana that they're going to push for the next one in 2028. And then obviously Alabama is saying the same thing. But we obviously want those now. But that's where we're at.
Steve
We need a now Missouri and Ohio are different. They're not related to the Supreme Court ruling. Tell me in Missouri and Ohio, terrific particular Missouri, why are we leaving them one each? So they did redistrict Ohio.
Alex DeGrasse
Yes, so they did redistrict. Right. I mean they mid decade redistricted and they only picked up that, you know, people are claiming and we think that you could have picked up another one in Missouri and certainly now you could argue that I think maybe that is an unconstitutional seat. Obviously when they did those maps, it was before the Supreme Court ruling in Ohio as well. So I think, you know, honestly, every state should look, not just in the south of course, where there's more. But I think they should look at this and you know, I'm going to get with the guys and we're going to really look at, you know, the rest of the states. And obviously Democrats are talking about Maryland and Colorado, which are the newest ones. But I think the, that they're going to try to pick up one each across the board and I think they won't be successful there because in Maryland we kind of control the Supreme Court, interestingly enough. And I think if they try to take that Republican seat, we've always argued, argued that we could go to court and we could win and then that would set in motion a sort of neutral court drawn seat. And if you were to draw honest, fair seats in Maryland, you would actually have two Republican seats. So it's actually already gerrymandered to make one. You'd have two and then a toss up seat. So that will be interesting to see.
Steve
But the Democrat, but the Democrats understand right now your math shows you we are net 10. And you call this over a year ago he said, hey, I think we can get to net 10 or 12. And obviously if we could get Alabama and Louisiana to go 7 0, we would get to your 12 number. We're already at the 10, we're at the COVID But the Democrats understand it's a game of inches. So Maryland and Colorado, anywhere else they can come up with it, they're going to try to do it. Correct?
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. Every seat, I mean, that's what you and I have been talking about for like four years, Steve. Every seat matters. Every seat, every little, I mean, every seat is going to be the money that's going to be going into this midterm election. It will be an unprecedented amount of money and it has been an unprecedented amount of money back to, back to back in each election. I mean, this stuff is getting crazy when you look at the numbers, you look at the dark money on both sides, obviously, and just everything that they're throwing at this, I mean, the Democrats are throwing out this, you know, and Republicans have a ton of money, you know, to the credit of President Trump and his team. And, and that's why if we could pivot, you know, just, I sent over, you know, we have polling out that has us either tight or leading in five offensive seats, Steve, which is huge. Up by 10 in Maine with LePage.
Steve
Hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to go to that in a second. Let's, let's, I want to start with the Cook Report. First, because I want to give people. So we. We still got seven on the table. Maybe two of those are. We're gonna. Warren Posse is gonna do their work. We're at 10 net. And right now the Cook Report's pretty good about breaking these down. They're not.
Alex DeGrasse
Can you throw that out? I think Denver's got. Here we go. Boom.
Steve
Okay. And that shows we're at 209 right now, I believe.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah. So we're at 209. Democrats are at 207 and 19 toss ups. If you go back in time to 2018, the final Cook report had Republicans at 100. So a net of 12. Sorry. Actually more say net of 14. And the Democrats are at 210. So, yeah, they're up by three, we're up by four.
Steve
We got smoked, and we got smoked in 2018. His. His first midterm election. Are you. As you look at those 19 today? Because I've had people do the Cook Report and look, and they say, look, the real number were probably at 212 to 213. But as you look at the 19 toss ups today, how do they break down for you? 50. 50, or. I mean, we literally need what, nine. We need nine of the 19, right?
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah. I mean, I feel good about the toss ups because President Trump won many of the toss ups, about like 30, 40% of them. And we're already tied or leading before. You know, look, because we dealt with this in 2022 when we took the House, and obviously we wanted way more seats. But you got to understand, when you're an incumbent, you're sitting there, you've got mind, you've got money, you're in the media, okay? The, the, the offensive guy or woman has to come in. It really doesn't start heating up until like, August, July, maybe a little bit, and then, you know, really Labor Day. But now there's voting. So that's kind of moved up a bit because of all the early voting. I mean, that's when you do, like, the big offensive. That's when you go out there, you're hammering, the negative ads are up. You're defining the Democrat in Congress who. All these guys are a disaster, lock, stock and barrel. All these incumbents, you know, and all these quote unquote, frontline seats. And, you know, these guys haven't really been hit yet, and they're about to get hit hard with all the money Republicans have. And I think when you factor all that in, you factor in the fundamentals on the seat with that, you know, the margins that President Trump, many of this are territory that either President Trump won or lost by, you know, like within one or two points. And you've got great candidates, great recruitment. I mean there's a lot of things going in the Republican direction, not just on the message and the fundamentals. And then obviously the Democrat brand is never more so. This is really not like 2018 at all in any sense. You've got, in 2018 there was 30 toss ups. Now you've got 19. So that just stresses the importance of, hey, every seat matters. All these competitive seats are total knife fights, can really hone in. And the fact that we're already leading in about five of them on the offensive seats is huge because we can flip 5 plus the redistricting buffer, plus already 3 seat majority. I mean you get into really good territory where you know, still they might flip a few seats, but we'll hold them. And that's the whole ball game. That's it.
Steve
If we, if we, if we, if the people at the state level had gone all in on this and we, we had theoretically taken, gotten the seven that are there for us to take. I want people to understand this, this is just about political will in elbow grease. We would be at 216 right now. I mean the House would basically we would have held serve in the House in a year that people last fall, in the first couple of months this year were talking on tv. Oh yeah, it's all historical and they're going to be 35 or 40 seats. It's all crap. When you break it down and actually see what I call the structural part now we're going to be short of that, but given the mosaic of the 19 and we're going to have some bad news between now and then. You're definitely going to have some of this inflation news. You see with the wholesale inflation and anybody spinning that away from you is not dealing with reality. And here we have to deal with reality to win. It's gonna, but this is gonna be a game of inches, a game of hard fought inches. But as you look today, and I'm gonna hold you briefly through the break, as you look today, holding the House is not a pipe dream. It actually could be a reality, sir.
Alex DeGrasse
That's right. We said we needed 10, looks like running at 10. And I think it's totally in the, it's totally in the game here, Steve. I think it's going to take everyone to really dig in harder than like we have to do what we did in 2024. We have to even do more. That's the thing for this midterm.
Steve
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Alex DeGrasse
Yeah. So some internal polling is out there. And you've got five seats that are in that toss up category, Steve, that as of like late April, were already leading way outside the margins in two of them, I think up by 10 points in Maine. Two, you've got former Governor LePage leading that Democrat House candidate by 10 points. And then you've got Washington. Three, Republican John Braun is leading Marie, I don't remember, glues, pants, whatever. Perez, you know, she's a crazy woman. He's, he's up by like seven. And then you've got North Carolina one, New Mexico two, Texas, 34 key seats, and all of them are either up by one, tied within the margin. So to be up that early in those seats before there's even ever been any advertising is frankly unprecedented for any election, any type of midterm or anything like that. And so it only gets worse for them. Of course, there's outside factors, the election, any types of inflation war, other things that we can't control. But what we can control is obviously defining the Democrats, getting people out to vote, getting our folks fired up. And certainly we're in the game. And this could be, this is huge. I mean, if we break history here, I mean, that's it. I mean, we'll be able to get more, you know, tax cuts for working class and try to get more of the Trump agenda through because it'll stop, obviously.
Steve
So anyway, well, we'll also stop the madness of the impeachment of President Trump. Subpoenas everywhere, grinding the MAGA movement to a halt into the, into the Trump revolution. And we're within striking distance now. You take those five, you add them to the two, nine we got. You're with really in striking distance with what, 15 seats really in play. It's going to be a grind. It's going to be a nasty, ugly grind. But this audience is all down for that. As you see what they've delivered in this redistricting fight, which is not, you know, it's not sexy, it's not, it's not, it's not glorious or glamorous. Right. You just got to get down and do it. And that's where this audience is best at, Alex, to keep up with all you ran and have come Bomber Command with Sean Spicer. Where do people go for your Twitter fee? Because that's where people are going to.
Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, that Degrasse 81. I want to say obviously Cassidy is up. He convicted the president. He's up on Saturday. That's game day in Louisiana. Get out and vote. Trump endorsed Letlow, but I'm at Degrasse 81 on X. Someone get her Truth Instagram, all of it. So let's just keep it going.
Steve
That's going to go to a runoff. They vote on Saturday, but right now it doesn't look like Ludlow, who's the endorsed Trump candidate, does not look like she'll win in the first round.
Alex DeGrasse
No, but in the latest polling tied her up by a decent amount. But we got to keep it going. But no, no, you got to break 50 for the runoff. So either Fleming or Cassidy, you know, you've seen some polls with either of them in second or third place.
Steve
But Cassidy could, could, could Cassidy, a sitting senator, come in third in a primary, sir?
Alex DeGrasse
Well, certainly I've seen multiple polls that say so. But we'll have to see on game day because it looks like they're flooding. This is what they do, these rhinos, they flood the independents, the unaffiliated. You know, they, they have non Republicans vote. So we'll see how that kind of develops. You know, that anti Trump vote, to be frank about it. So we'll see how that plays out. It's hard to kind of model that. But get out.
Steve
Okay, digress. Get out and vote. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Saturday. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
Alex DeGrasse
Thanks.
Steve
Neil McCabe, you're at the White House tonight. We're coming back live at 10 o'. Clock. Like last night. I think people really enjoyed the coverage. One thank real America's Voice. We'll stay to midnight. There's a kind of order of events more personal but going to a very Tiananmen Square. Pretty historic Great hall the people, pretty historic Temple of Heaven. Pretty historic. But they're going to another maybe for secular politics as historic tonight when we come back live at 10. What do you got for us? McCabe?
Neil McCabe
Yeah, sir, that's going to be the Zhongnanghai garden or tardy complex. And that's where the chicoms do their business. It's where they work. It's the center of their party in Beijing. And so at 11:30. So it'd be 11:30 our time because it's a 12 hour difference. Trump and Xi will have a friendly photo shoot and then they'll sit down for tea in the garden and then go for their working lunch at 12:15. And that working lunch at 12:15, maybe that's when we'll see a breakthrough of say like a Jimmy Lai or something else that Trump can actually take home with him.
Steve
Talk to me. Jiang and Lai is because Mao Tse Tung live there. Cho Enlight. They have their offices, their living quarters used to be near there. This has been a very historic space and that's why President Trump, I think, is one of the few Americans ever to even go and be over there.
Mike Lindell
Right.
Neil McCabe
So usually they'll bring the President to the Great Wall of China, the Forbidden City. We saw the, you know, as you said, the visit to the Temple of Heaven, but this is sort of the holy of holies for the ChiComs. And this is where the apartments are, this is where the staff is, and this is where it actually gets done. And so I don't know if they, if they invited Trump to be there as a gesture or maybe Trump asked himself, maybe somebody asked themselves to make it happen. But it does speak to the importance of this visit. And I would consider it a tribute to Trump to bring him in there in a visit that's been full of symbolic tributes. Steve.
Steve
Now the President is. This has been very symbolic so far. Neil, just hang around for a second. Brian Kennedy, you were with us last night. Thank you. Brian's going to also join us again tonight for our coverage. Want to thank you for last night. Your assessment, you kind of gave the pre game yesterday as we saw the, the opening ceremonies, which were obviously very impressive. You're, you are one of the co founders of the Committee on the Present Danger China. So we definitely come at this with an angle of attack. Your thoughts so far, sir?
Brian T. Kennedy
Thank you, Steve.
Alex DeGrasse
Great to be with you.
Brian T. Kennedy
It looks to me so far like it's been a lot of niceties, but not a lot of seriousness. The President certainly is going to promote US Businesses and he'll certainly hear the Chinese out when it comes to whatever investments and trade they interest they have in this country. But I thought the line by
Steve
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Brian T. Kennedy
Secretary Xi about Taiwan and the Thucydides trap and the really overt threat against the United States if we meddle at all in Taiwan was a real affront to President Trump. All niceties aside, you can have bands, you can have children screaming, but the overt threat is something that the Chinese Communists are quite used to, and they kind of do it without thinking much about it. And I think President Trump took it for what it was, but he himself, I think, is prepared to play hardball with them. And again, all niceties aside, he's tough and he's, I think, willing to negotiate whatever it takes for America's interests.
Steve
Let's stay on that. We broke that down this morning. But to start off, to start off the conversations in the opening kind of salvo and mention Thucydides trap, because the implication there is that you're the former hegemon and now the declining power. We're the rising power as outlined in the Destined for War by Graham Allison, the nuclear theorist Stratus, I guess the strategy guy with Henry Kissinger. And then to very specifically say relations will be very good and we can have a win, win and a partnership, and we should be partners, we shouldn't be even competitors. But if you don't let Taiwan take its natural course of reunification, there's going to be a problem. And in the Thucydides trap, that means either massive regional or global conflict, does it not, sir?
Brian T. Kennedy
Yeah, it does. It does. He's trying to say if you, if you leave us alone, there won't be war. But, of course, as we've highlighted on the show many times, we're already in a war with communist China. COVID 19 was a bioweapons attack. If that's not war, I'm not sure what is. What I think President Trump needs to do is to make sure that he's clear that he understands this is war, that he understands that what the Chinese are doing to the United States is not only physical war in the case of COVID 19, but that they're engaged in political war against us and economic war against us. And as I said last night, I don't think we'd be there if we didn't have a problem. This is not really about going to see the sights in Beijing. This is about sorting out some fundamental differences between the United States and Communist China. And this whole notion that the United States has to accommodate Communist China since they're the rising power or suffer war, it's too late for that. They've already committed acts of war against us. And we, the United States, are trying to work our way out of that and do so in a way that doesn't cause a worldwide, you know, a worldwide war between the United States and the Russians and the Chinese or whoever the Chinese allies are. This is a very delicate Time in US Chinese relations, to be sure.
Steve
Yeah. The President, when he came to power in 1617, did what no other president has ever done, is saying, we're not playing more games. We're going to confront this problem, we're going to confront it head on. Because they'd been at war with us for decade after decade after decade. What's called unrestricted warfare.
Brian T. Kennedy
Right.
Steve
They then they've ratcheted up the COVID bioweapon. The intrusion in the 2020 election, which we now know because of DNI Tulsi Gabbard, was 20 states where they went into the databases and tried to change them, or did change them in many regards to thwart President Trump having a second term. What we've seen with the, as you mentioned, the 200,000, the 200,000 military agents, males who are every bit as sharp and as focused as those as the troops you saw yesterday in Tiananmen Square greet the President and he gave a review with Xi and then they did a passing review. So you look at item after item after item. The reason it's ratcheted up is because Donald Trump's President, United States, and they realized that he was the guy that was coming to do, to take care of business. Do you think so? Therefore, how could he miss that? That must be pretty obvious to him, don't you think?
Brian T. Kennedy
Absolutely. I mean, look, today the Chinese are still, still stealing American intellectual property. You know, when President Trump came to, came to office in the first administration, President Trump said that was 600 billion a year, billion with a B. And that they had done that for 10 years, that was 10 trillion. Even if they cut that in half somehow, and I don't think it's been cut in half. You know, that number today is 15 billion, 16, 17 trillion, trillion. Excuse me, get these numbers so big, that's a lot of theft of American intellectual property. How do we let that go by? I mean, certainly the Elon Musk's and the Jensen Huangs, they're happy to let it go by. They're there. Right, sir, don't worry about the theft of intellectual property. We're more innovative and we'll catch up in the end. But in reality, every day that goes by that we're not decoupling from Communist China is a day where they're stealing more of what makes America great, which is the intellectual property we produce. And so the President has to be alive to that. And I certainly hope parts of the administration that are with him are equally alive to that.
Steve
Hang on one second. Brian Kennedy Neil McCabe on the other side. Short commercial right.
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Brian T. Kennedy
Thank you, Steve. The website is presentdangerchina.org where you'll find the webinars and work of the Committee on the Present Danger, China and myself. It's Brian T. Kennedy one on X and Brian T. Kennedy on Getter and Truth Social. Thank you Steve. Great to be with you.
Steve
Thank you ma'. Am. Sir, appreciate you. Brian T. Kennedy over at the communion. Present danger. Go there. It's got tons of great information including all those seminars they do all the time. Neil McCabe, you're going to be back and the night watchman at the White House is going to make sure that you've got at least a half hour with us at 10 o' clock tonight. Where do people go in the interim to keep up with you? Neal?
Neil McCabe
Steve, they can find me on all the socials. Reporter McCabe, see you tonight.
Steve
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Episode 5373: Redistricting Showdown in South Carolina
Date: May 14, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests: Alex DeGrasse, Brian T. Kennedy, Neil McCabe, others
This episode centers on the political high-stakes battle over congressional redistricting in South Carolina and across the South, with a sharp focus on the immediate efforts to redraw districts to favor Republicans for the 2028 election cycle. The discussion expands out to Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Ohio, Missouri, and even covers broader themes like surveillance, Big Tech, the ongoing US-China rivalry, and the legacy of political figures like Rep. Jim Clyburn. The episode is characterized by a war-room mentality: strategic, combative, and openly skeptical of both the Democratic Party’s electoral mechanics and elements within the GOP establishment.
South Carolina Special Session:
Seven and Oh Strategy:
GOP Internal Struggles:
States Leaving Seats “On the Table”:
Bannon: “There are seven seats we are leaving on the table... they are unconstitutional and can be changed.” (13:49) DeGrasse: Blames lack of “political will” and “elbow grease,” not structure or demographics.
Every Seat Counts:
State of the House:
Key Polling:
Bannon: “This is going to be a game of inches, a game of hard fought inches... holding the House is not a pipe dream. It actually could be a reality...” (27:50)
Trump-Xi Beijing Summit:
Memorable Quote:
This episode provides an in-depth, unfiltered conservative perspective on the national redistricting chess match, with South Carolina as front line, and broader concerns about global competition, technological control, and the future of political power in America. The narrative is one of hard-won margins, immense stakes, and the ongoing tension between grassroots action and political risk aversion within the GOP. The battle is presented as both technical (map-making, legal decisions) and existential (the soul of the party and nation).
For listeners looking to understand the right’s mindset on redistricting and modern election strategy—and the broader anxieties of US global competition—this episode is an essential, if polemic, guide.