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Episode 5374: China Summit Ends As Redistricting Efforts Continue In The States
Episode 5374: China Summit Ends As Redistricting Efforts Continue In The States ...
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much. This has been an incredible visit. I think a lot of. A lot of good has come of it. We've made some fantastic trade deals. Great for both countries. He's a man I respect greatly. Become really a friend. We've known each other now 11 years, almost 12 years. That's a long time. And we've settled a lot of different problems that other people wouldn't have been able to settle. And the relationship is a very strong one. We've really done some wonderful things. I believe we did discuss Iran. We feel very similar in Iran. We want that to end. We don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. We want the straits open. We're closing it now. They closed it and we closed it on top of them. But we want the streets open and we want them to get it ended because it's a crazy thing. They're a little bit crazy and it's no good. Can't happen. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. But we discussed a lot of other things also, and I think we're very much on agreement. We're going to have some further discussions now with the group. But I just want to thank President Xi and all of his representatives. We've become friendly with all of them great people, and it's an honor to be here.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We'll be back.
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Donald Trump
And I believe on September 24th or thereabouts, President Xi is going to be coming to the United States. And we will be reciprocal, like reciprocal trade. The visit will be reciprocal. We're going to lay it on the line and we're going to have. You're going to. You're going to walk away, hopefully very impressed. Like, I'm very impressed with China. And I just want to end by saying thank you very much. It's been really a great couple of days. Thank you very much.
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Captain Fennell
Be a lot of questions around the
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Stephen K. Bannon
China trip, but just first on Iran. Have you rejected the latest proposal from Iran or where does that stand? I looked at it and if I don't like the first sentence, I just throw it away. What was the first sentence? An unacceptable sentence because they fully agreed no nuclear. And if they have any nuclear of any form, I don't read the rest. So 20 years is not enough for you? It's got to be a no, 20 years is enough, but the level of guarantee from them is not enough. In other words, it's got to be a real 20 years, not a big deal. You've got to get all the fuel out and no more production. We have to get everything but we're not even talking about. I call it the nuclear dust. Came up with a term which seems to have caught on. They're talking about because they would not remove the. They said that they can't remove it because they don't have the technology to remove it. They don't have the type of tractors. They say the only one, they told me directly, they said, the only one that can remove it is China or the U.S. we're the only ones with the equipment. They said, you were right. It is a complete obliteration. With that being said, I want to get it. And they agreed to it, but then they took it back. But they'll agree to it eventually. About the arms sales to Taiwan, I'll make a determination over the next early short period. You're not necessarily going to go ahead. It was your proposal. Make a determination. I'm going to say I have to speak to the person that right now, as you know, you know who he is that's running Taiwan with the US Defend Taiwan, if it came to it. I don't want to say. I'm not going to say that. There's only one person that knows that you know who it is. Me. I'm the only person. That question was asked to me today by President Xi. I said, I don't talk about those. He asked you if you would send troops, if you would defend. He asked me if I defend them. I said, I don't talk about that. She tells him that I don't talk.
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Donald Trump
Settle. And the relationship is a very strong one. We've really done some wonderful things. I believe we did discuss Iran. We feel very similar in Iran. We want that to end. We don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. We want the straits open. We're closing it now. They closed it. Then we closed it on top of them. But we want the Straits open and we want them to get it ended because it's a crazy thing. They're a little bit crazy. That's no good. Can't have it. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. Other countries, Bahrain. It also helps China. We're actually. I told them today, I said, you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in another way because I don't think they want. I don't think China wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon either. I said this, don't go crazy. You don't need them having a nuclear weapon. What did he say? What did he say? Well, he's not going to respond too much. He's a pretty cool guy. He's not going to say, oh gee, that's a good point. I think he might. What's he going to do? What a wonderful point. You think he agreed? Yeah, I think that was the impression. I don't think he wants him to have. No, he would like to see it end.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I heard him out. Are you going to see two words. No, I didn't make, I didn't make a comment on it. I heard him. Now I have a lot of respect for him. On Iran, it's very interesting. He feels strongly they can't have a, a nuclear weapon. He said that very strongly. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. And he wants them to open up the strait. But as he said, they closed it and then you close them with a smile. And it's true. We control the strait. And they've done no business, literally, they've done no business in the last two and a half weeks, which is approximately $500 million a day. So we have, we're doing very well on all fronts.
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Donald Trump
We don't need, we don't need it at all. We don't need it at all. Fair enough. So, I mean, you could make the case, you know, like, why are we even. We're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries. Bahrain, it also helps China. We're actually, I told him today, I said, you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in another way because I don't think they want, I don't think China wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon either. I said this, don't go crazy, you don't need them having a nuclear weapon. What did he say? What did he say? Well, he's not going to respond too much. He's pretty cool guy. He's not going to say, oh gee, that's a good point. I think he might. What's he going to do? I mean, what a wonderful point. You think he agreed? Yeah, I think that was the impression. I don't think he wants him to have. No, he would like to see it end. But he's been good about it, you know, it'll come off. So we had a lot of, you know, we were in there for a few hours, right. Long time. Do you think you made progress? Did you feel like that? The give and take, like, well, for example, you're not going to sign this big agreement after hours meeting, but do you feel the foundation was laid for great success? Better than last time? You know, last time we signed like 36 deals this time. It's much bigger than that. Talked about soybeans for our farmers. They're going to do a lot of soybeans for our farmers. They're going to be buying a lot of our farm product, which is great. You know, they have an unlimited appetite, as the expression goes. They can buy as much as. When you have that many people, they need it. And we have the best product. We're the best, certainly the best of everything. And they'll be doing that very farmer to me is very. You know, I must have gotten 95% of the farm vote. And by the way, we just signed the farm bill or we just approved the farm bill in Congress, which a lot of people thought was not going to happen. You know, the Democrats are against farmers. You believe it? I say, how can they be? Because add that to the men and women's sports. The Democrats are against farmers. Can you believe it? So anyway, they're defective. I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to buy property near one of their military installations. I don't think President Xi wouldn't let you. I don't. Look, it's not that I love it. You want to see farm prices drop, you want to see farmers lose a lot of money, just take that out of the market. But they've had a lot of land for a long time. Obama did nothing about it. They bought a lot of it during the Obama administration. He did nothing about it. As far as the students, it's 500,000 students. They come good students. I could tell them I don't want any students, is a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way, if you don't, and we do another thing, you know, if they're good and they want to stay in America, we won't give them a green card and things like that, you know, and that not only them, but other countries. But if you want to see a university system die, take a half a million people out of it and, you know, the ones that won't be heard are the top schools. The top schools will do fine, but your lower schools, your lower, the ones that don't do quite as well, those two, they'll be dying all over the place. I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture and many of them want to stay here. I think it's good. Not everybody agrees with me. And it doesn't sound like a very conservative position. And I'm as conservative, I'm a conservative guy. I'm really a common sense guy. I think more than a conservative guy. I think MAGA is common sense. You know, people understand we want strong borders, we want strong military, we want good education, we want low interest rates. You know, we want but I think people would argue they worry about do they have nefarious. I know. And we worry about that. And honestly, you know, they do things to us and we do things to them. It's a very, very fine line, the whole thing with students. So they have 500,000 students and our university system does great. You know, it does great. You want to screw it up, take a half a million students out and you're going to see bankruptcies at the lower end of good colleges, but they're not known or whatever, you're going to have a lot of problems. So it's something I'm always looking at, but it's a very insulting thing to tell a country we don't want your people in our schools. I mean, it really is. Now I'll have people say, oh, that's a terrible thing. You know, it is a very insulting thing and it's very interesting. It's something didn't come up today, came up last time, came up last time. But I will tell you that school systems don't want that to happen because you won't have much of a school system. All right.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Mr. In other words, building down and you bring Russia into it also. But the concept of that is something would be very good. About the, the political prisoners in China, did you bring up with President Xi
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and in the political prisoners in China,
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Caroline Wren
are anybody to be released, any progress?
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think he's giving very serious consideration to the pastor. The pastor has said he's giving very serious consideration to that. What about Jimmy? I discussed it. What about Jimmy L. It's a tougher one. I said, I did bring it up. It's a tougher one for him. It's a tougher one. What did he say about it? He said for him it's a great he told me, I don't want mislead anybody. He said Jimmy Lai is a tough one for him to do, went through a lot and right or wrong, they went through a lot. So he told me that would be a tough one. He said he's going to strongly consider the best. And on President Xi, a couple of years ago when President Biden met him in San Francisco, he was asked if he Thought President Xi was a dictator.
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Captain Fennell
Do you think President Xi is a dictator?
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think that President Biden was an incompetent president. He gave us the Iran nuclear deal, which allowed Iran. Iran to have a nuclear weapon within a matter of years from the time they said I terminated it. If I didn't terminate that Iran would have a nuclear weapon, then they would have used it with it probably two years ago, three years ago. If I didn't go in with the B2 bombers nine months ago, Iran would have a nuclear weapon and nobody would be able to talk to him. By the way, they would have used it already. Do you think President Xi is a dictator or not? I don't think about it. He's the ruler. He's the. He's the president of China. I don't think about it. I said they would. You deal with what you have. I respect him. He's very smart. He loves his country. I respect him. Whether he's a dictator. That's for you to figure out. About the cyber attacks that he's done in the United States or the mss. I did. And he talked about attacks that we did in China. You know what they do? We do, too. It's like the spying they're talking about. Oh, the spying. I said, well, the spying. We do it, too. Infrastructure, look. No, I'm talking about spying. The question was asked to me yesterday, I guess. What about the fact that China's spying in the United States? They said, well, it's one of those things because we spy like hell on them, too. So what about the fact that China is putting in the US Infrastructure code that they could use if we. If you ever decided to come to the end? Well, you don't know that. I mean, I'd like to see it, but it's very possible that they do and we're doing things to them. I told them we do a lot of stuff to you that you don't know about. And you're doing things us. That we probably do know about, but we do plenty. It's a double. It's a double exercise.
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Donald Trump
So again, what does he want from the U.S. a lot of things. Talked about. We talked about a lot of things. Too many things to discuss, but a lot of things. We had a very good meeting, but the country's decimated. You know, they're charging tolls. Where's the money going? Do you think President Xi and China have the ability to influence the Iranians considering they are one of their biggest. Look, he's not coming in with guns. He's not coming in with rifles and not coming and shooting. You know, somebody said he's been, he's been very good. They get a lot of their oil, 40% of their oil from that location. So what has happened? And one thing I think that we're going to make a deal on he's they've agreed they want to buy oil from the United States. They're going to go to Texas. We're going to start sending Chinese ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska. And I think that was another thing that was agreed to. That's a big thing. What about liquefied?
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Caroline Wren
Okay.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Donald Trump
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, there's a obviously we had two great live evening shows while the President was in China. Want to thank Robin Parker, sig, the entire real America's Voice team. Of course all of our, you know from Sam Fadis and Dr. Thayer and Brian T. Kennedy and and Captain Fennell. Fennell is going to join us this morning. Cleo is going to join us, Pascal. She's out in the Pacific right now. The Chinese did have a press conference talking about the Solomon Islands and the Island Chamber get to Cleo. We're gonna do all that and there's a lot to chew on. As you know, I could hear, I could feel the temperature rising on talking of purchasing American farmland and investments in American companies and 500,000 students and we have to save this tremendous educational system that's just cranking out Marxists every day. So I know there's a lot to chew on and we're going to have people on here post is going to join the second. We're going to get to all that but we got to get to the business at hand. By the way, the President I think may actually arrive in Alaska during our show scheduled from sometime between 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time and one they're going to refuel and then head back. I'm sure the President may talk to the even take more media while he's there. So we're going to cut to that. Want to thank and want to thank the audience. Huge audiences, very active. You guys love the programming and we'd love to do that kind of programming. Knowing you guys love it. We're going to do more of it. Rev is committed to bringing you all the cutting edge information around the MAGA movement, the country and the world. Caroline Rent is with us. Degrasse gave us a great assessment last night, but hang on, Caroline Wren, I got a cold open just for you. We're going to play the cold open and then I'm going to bring in the Caroline Rent.
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Caroline Wren
All right. Louisiana state senators have advanced a new congressional map that would eliminate one of the state's two majority black districts. Democrats condemned the proposal as racial, racial gerrymandering and a major rollback of black political representation in a state where black residents make up roughly one third of the population. The plan would dismantle Louisiana's six state 6th district currently represented by Democratic Congressman Cleo Fields, and redraw it into a Republican leaning seat. The proposal now heads to the Louisiana House where Republicans hold a super majority. This isn't the only place, Simone, where we've seen this happening. Do you think voters are tuned into this issue?
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Simone
Yes. In Louisiana right now there's actually a recall effort to recall Governor Landry over this very specific thing calling this special session to redraw these maps. In Louisiana you need 500,000 signatures across the state and in the local reporting and the folks that I talked to just yesterday said that the lines were literally out the door at these petition sites to sign the petition. Now will they get the 500,000 signatures? I've talked to some voting rights advocates that believe they will. Will the recall effort be successful? Nah, probably not. But it is a good organizing tool. And the reality is that this is an attack not just on black elected officials. This is an attack on black voters, black people, black political power across this country. In Tennessee that we've talked about, the district that they carved up, the district was represented by Steve Collins. Steve Collins is not a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. He is a white man. He just happened to be a Democrat. But what they did to the district is dilute the voting power of black voters. I know people like to talk about my Republican friends. It's not about race, but I just, I can't help but see that when given the opportunity, these states, from Florida to Alabama to Georgia, they're looking at it now, to Tennessee to Louisiana, they went directly to carve up the districts of black voters. This is about. This is an attack on black political power. And that's why folks are organizing this weekend. There's a big march that's being planned, but. But protest is fine. What are you going to do about it? And those conversations are currently happening.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But you might not endorse Surrey, Texas. I don't want to say that I'm looking at it very strong. I like them both. I mean, I'll tell you what I do think. I think the Democrats have a weird, a weird candidate, six genders, a real hit on Jesus. I mean, this guy is bad news with his mask from relatively recently. He's vegan. He's a vegan. All of a sudden, he's not a vegan. He was a vegan. Now all of a sudden he's not. Texas doesn't like vegans. I do believe either one of them will easily win the race. I think that the candidate the Democrats have in Texas is a very flawed, very weak, very. I think he's a pathetic candidate, especially for Texas.
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Caroline Ren joins us. So, Caroline, with all your Herculean efforts, I want to get to South Carolina, want to think. But we got last night. Mississippi, we've still left one on the table. Georgia, we're leaving two on the table. Alabama, we're leaving one on the table. Louisiana, we're leaving one on the table. Now that's from the DEI Supreme Court. And Missouri won and Ohio, one. There's seven. Seven seats. Five of those unconstitutional. The other two obviously should be redistricted. That we're leaving on the table.
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Caroline Wren
Walk in Indiana.
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Stephen K. Bannon
In Indiana, too. Indiana too. That gets to nine. So walk me through. Where do we stand with how many of these? Because they all say, oh no, you can't do it. It's impossible. Impossible. Those nine, how many do you think through your Herculean efforts we can shift over to the column that is a change district in redistricting, ma'. Am.
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Caroline Wren
Well, stepping out. I want to focus on it's hard to overstate just how screwed the Democrats are moving forward, given both the redistricting that's been done, that is left to do, and then the 2030 census because by 2032, we could be operating with as many as 235 safe congressional seats. Remember, it takes 218 for the majority. So right now, Cook Political Report, House ratings, they have the Republicans floor right now at 210. You know, I think we'll pick up only three more, which is very frustrating. It should have been nine, but three more, one in Alabama, one in Louisiana, one in South Carolina. And so that brings us to 213 as our floor 18 toss up seats. So then really we need to just win five of those 18 toss up seats to retain the majority. But look, let's look even past 2026 where it gets much more bleak for Democrats in 2028, when you do the additional redistricting, we could easily be at 222seats as our floor. That's when you pick up, we'll pick up a seat in Alabama, seat in Louisiana, seat in Mississippi, a seat in Utah, seat in Nebraska, Kansas, New Hampshire, one or two in Georgia. So even if the Democrats try and erase those redistricting pickups by doing redistricting on their own in New York, Colorado, California, Illinois or Maryland, we could still wipe those out by doing additional redrawings and maps like Texas and Florida. And even if they move against to redistrict in those states, it wouldn't change the fact that our floor in 2028 would be 222. Then you fast forward to 2032, you know, after this 2030 census where there'll be a, there's been a flood of people from blue to red states. Republicans are Projected to add 12 to 15 congressional seats in states like Texas, in Florida, each probably getting four new seats. Then Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Utah, and that would put the GOP's floor and get it to 35. And this is why the Democrats are melting down right now. For them, it is now or never. They have to win the House right now, they have to win the Senate and then they have to win the presidency in 2028. And then they have to Nuke the filibuster and just change the rules, or else they are not a party that will exist after 2032. There is no way, even after the census, not to mention the Electoral College shift that is coming in 2032, shifting eight to 10 votes in blue to red states, such as just the exodus from California, New York to Florida and Texas, that will mean that we could lose Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and the Electoral College and still win the presidency. They have got to figure out some type of way to compete in Florida, Texas, and right now, I'm seeing none of that. All they do is run against Trump. There is zero vision from the Democrats, zero strategy, zero plan, zero persuasion. So I just. I wanted to take a moment just to pull back further and show just what a good place Republicans are headed into and how bad the Democrats are. But right now.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Okay, I agree on the math. You're kind of going Old Testament on me because I feel like Trump's Moses and you're giving me the promised land, and, baby, I got it. I love it. And if we had been allowed to do the correct census that Miller and I crafted back in the first term until it was stopped by the Commerce Department and establishment Republicans. The problems with your theory is the Republicans can screw anything up. Here you have a massive demographic shift by the people of the United States. All of that math you just told me, Republicans have nothing to do with that. Is literally the people of the United States voting with their feet, right to change, and also us in the MAGA movement. And President Trump had enough guts not to include illegal aliens for apportionment into the census. But right now, Trump is Moses. I want to make sure he didn't get stopped at the river and have to send Aaron right across to lead the Maga chosen people into the promised land of 2028, 2020, 2032. How do we lock it down now? Because if we lock it down now, you literally break. The Democratic Party will shatter if they do not take the House. Forget the Senate, if they don't take the House this time, that party will not exist in November, December. The civil war that they will have at their throat will make the Tea Party in the establishment fight that we've had for a decade look like a garden party. Right? Because these Marxist socialists will say, hey, we had Trump. We had him in the crosshairs. And the abundance, you know, the. The Ezra Klein abundance movement of the corporate Democrats and the oligarchs that Were still in back of the Democratic Party, screwed it up. Give me your thoughts. I'm gonna hold you through the break and then talk about what's before us and work. We gotta do your thoughts about that, ma'.
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Donald Trump
Am.
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Caroline Wren
Yeah, the current. You know, there's nothing really to be done anymore. In Alabama, Louisiana, we. I was yelling at everyone about this. They each went for one. It is ridiculous and stupid, but that's where we are. South Carolina is not a done deal. Governor McMaster did call the special session, but we still have to get it passed. Now, when they lost that vote a few days ago, that was. You had to have two thirds. We really just need a simple majority. But there are some procedural games that the state Senate and South Carolina are going to try and play to delay and keep this from happening, which is so insane. These are Republican, allegedly Republicans who are going to play these games. So that fight's not over. The war room posse needs to be all over South Carolina over the next few days to get this done, because that seat is going to matter. Because you're right, I'm very. I want to give President Trump. He needs to keep a Republican House and Republican Senate for these final two years to truly get done what he wants to do. And also, we just cannot give these to the Democrats. And then, God forbid, if they win in 2028, they will nuke the filibuster and do all the things that. Actually, this is why Trump is yelling about nuking the filibuster now. It is so dumb. Republicans won't nuke the filibuster now, but it's just we're operating in a party with a lot of people that are unwilling to fight.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Donald Trump
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner, one
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Stephen K. Bannon
of our UFC members of the Reduction Wars. Caroline Wren, a warrior always in pits. So, Caroline, this is why I can't get I don't think the audience get too excited about 2028 house in 2032. And here's why. You're right, the math and the debt. But that's the American people making decisions that are going to be manifest in this when it takes this hapless, feckless party. Those nine that were not done, you're saying, Steve, don't get. You've got one that's still a possibility, and that is South Carolina, and that's going to take a major push from us, correct?
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Caroline Wren
That's right.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And so the Mississippi seat, that extra seat we're not going to get this time, correct?
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Caroline Wren
Correct. The governor just came out. He canceled the special session that was supposed to start on May 20th to do redistricting.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And what reason did he use? They'd already. They already had the primary, is that it?
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Caroline Wren
Yes. And they were going to redraw based off of the specialist that she said was to redraw for Supreme Court races. And that didn't manifest in itself. So that's why he canceled it. So I got this, I got the feeling he was never actually going to redraw because the primary primary had already happened in Mississippi. It happened in March. I still thought they should have gone for it, but that's officially closed.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Georgia, too. We're not going to get. That's done. And what was Kemp's excuse for that?
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Caroline Wren
Kemp's excuse was the voting. It started. And that there's no way to start an active primary, of which I pushed back and said, no, no, no. You stopped an active primary in 2020 during COVID and he tried to use procedural pay. The governor doesn't have the ability. I'm like, well, you have the ability. When you declared an emergency with COVID And so that's not true. But he then went ahead and called a special session, but he wanted to just get some good headlines. I saw a bunch of good headlines for Kemp a couple of days ago saying he's calling a special session. He called it for 2027, so don't get too excited. He is leaving those on the board for this cycle. We'll pick them up in 2027. But they should have gotten them. Now.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Alabama, we're leaving one on the table. Why is that happening, ma'? Am?
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Caroline Wren
There's a lot of reasons, but it was really. The speaker of the House just refused to draw for two, and he said it was because the courts, technically, they had redrawn with one pickup and that it's just. The easier move was to revert to that map and then they could redistrict to the other one. They were just lazy. They don't want to go through the process. And that is what a lot of this comes down to. So Alabama left a seat on the table, will gain one.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. Governor Landry in Louisiana, we're leaving one on. On the. On the boards. Why?
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Caroline Wren
Yeah. And that one I can't figure out. But, yeah, they drew this very weird district that kind of stretches from Baton Rouge to New Orleans. So they're leaving one. One Democrat seat there. And I want to stress, too, in states like Alabama, Louisiana, how dumb this is. These are states that Trump won by massive margins by comparison. Look at a state like Massachusetts. You know, Trump gets 38% of the vote in Massachusetts, and they have a Nine Zero map. In Alabama, Trump, like Harris, got, I think, 37% of the vote or something less than even what Trump got in Massachusetts. And we still won't do what needs to be done in these states. And so that is why it is so frustrating.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Indiana, we were eight to one. Now we're seven to two. We left two on the table. Anything that. That's totally done and finished, correct?
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Caroline Wren
Yeah. And I think that can be redrawn as a 90. Like, they refuse to even do the weak proposed map.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, they took that away from us. Missouri, we leaving one on the table, ma'? Am?
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Caroline Wren
No, Missouri was in a court case. So, like, which. So Missouri, that. We won that court case a couple days ago. So that's now solid pickup for Republicans. They redistrict like, a year and a half ago. It was challenging courts. I think we can go back and potentially get another one there. But. But that's not what we left on the table to cycle. Utah.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, fine. Okay, Utah, one. Ohio. We're still one in Ohio. Correct.
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Caroline Wren
Ohio. I just don't love the map that they did. And so, yes, we picked up. They redistricted like a year and a half ago. I think they could have gone and still could go further than they did.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And so. And then you add Utah, which is another debacle. Of course, the judge there, I think, has been thrown off the Supreme Court because she's sending love letters. She sending. She's sexting the attorney that, that she agreed with that took away this outrageous ruling. So my point is we still got one, but that's going to take a lot of work. But this is why I can't get excited about the land of milk and Honey. Because if anybody can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, when the Supreme Court of these United States comes in on a 6 to 3 decision and these guys aren't prepared and don't have a plan, it shows you they don't care, okay? They got their own deals in these state capitals and they don't care. I don't care. They're going to have a million one excuses. That's just an excuse not to get the job done. And this is why I think we got to put all the focus now on this. And if we got in these seats, it would have been a blowout. Hakeem Jeffries would have no chance of being speaker of the House. And now he still got a chance, although it's not the chance they thought they had. And we're going to have trench warfare between now and in November, ma'.
- [35:23]
Donald Trump
Am.
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Caroline Wren
That's right. And also, don't forget how much Trump had to do to even get this done. Like, this is why you need a fighter and a head of your party as a fighter. Trump had to beg the governor of Tennessee to do this. He had to beg the governor of Alabama and be calling them, say, do this right now. Same, you know, Louisiana, that was different. That was a court case that sparked it. But like Trump, he was having to call the governor of South Carolina and put pressure and the White House having to put all this pressure on these states to do what is obvious to you and I, and a layup. And it was really like that. Trump is even having to waste any of his time, like cold calling Republican governors in states he won by 15 plus points is ridiculous. And so I worry for what a party looks like without Donald Trump as the head of our party and opposed to do we just revert back to these weak, feckless Republicans who. These governors who Wouldn't even move on something so simple unless Donald Trump insists they do.
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Stephen K. Bannon
That's where we are in, remember, Texas and Florida. Actually, Texas, I think got another three. Florida's got a couple. Three more. Though DeSantis has done a very good job here. My point is, it's not just the hammer. He's got enough going on. Look, a lot of us are not particularly thrilled with a lot that went on in China. However, the guy's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. And here he's whipping votes in these states with guys who wouldn't even be in politics it was not for his coattails. That's the madness of this. They wouldn't exist without Trump. And yet Trump has got to take the time as President of the United States to also be the Chief Whip for the reditioning effort. This is what drives me insane. Nobody picks up the burden for this guy on anything. Caroline Wren.
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Caroline Wren
I know. It is true. He was having to like, he called the Senate president in South Carolina two times and the guy wouldn't even return his phone call. Finally, on the third time he called, he took the call and then gave the most absurd speech I've ever heard about why it were stronger with a strong Democrat Party. You're the head of the Republican Party Senate caucus. What are you talking. What planet am I living on right now? But that's, that's the reality of these guys.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, what are our marching orders for South Carolina? We got to get every. You don't want to wake up on the morning after the election in November and know Hakeem Jeffries, because folks understand something. Hakeem Jeffries is the speaker by one member, by one vote. They're going to run it like they got a 50 seat majority. They're going to ram it down your throat. Right. As much as people say, well, Trump's done this. Yeah, I got it. It ain't perfect, but these are Marxists on the other side. These are radical Marxists on the other side. And Hakeem Jeffries letting these guys run wild. So every seat is important. What do we have to do? What's your guidance today? It's a work day. What do we have to do in Miss. In South Carolina.
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Caroline Wren
In South Carolina, these legislators have got to hear from their constituents saying, we want this. You need to redistrict now. It's very important. We'll be putting up emails, phone numbers for people to be calling into. They need to really, really hear from people to know the importance of this because they are going to we have the votes but if they try to procedurally delay, we can't let them just, just do that and get away with it. We all eyes need to be on South Carolina until this is on the governor's desk for signature and we need to be loud about it and making sure they know you can't just procedurally keep delaying this and think nobody's going to notice.
- [38:40]
Stephen K. Bannon
Caroline, where do people go your bomber command today, your Twitter feed. So where do they go for your Twitter feed to get the action of what they're supposed to do today?
- [38:48]
Caroline Wren
Ma', Am, it is at Caroline Wren on X Truth Social and Getter.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you ma'.
- [38:56]
Donald Trump
Am.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Appreciate you. Of course vengeance was, was dealt on in Indiana. Of course I do think some of the heavy handed nature, some of this stuff is what caused that. We should at least had the one seat that we had that Banks and Degrasse delivered. Remember we did that conference out there just gets me no end of how this thing's going however, particularly folks from the south in Mississippi, in Georgia, in Alabama and Louisiana and in South Carolina. But today we still got one in plain South Carolina. But those other states, you should let your representatives know. It's not acceptable what they did here. It's not, it's unacceptable. They were not prepared for this and not prepared to move out with all alacrity. I don't want to hear any excuses. Oh, we had this court case. No, your job is to find a solution. Particularly when the Supreme Court says it's unconstitutional in a 6:3 decision and it's been suppressing and oppressing the south for decade after decade after decade after decade. That's what's so frustrating here. Okay, let's pivot. Let's go to the White House. And Neil, I'm more on this and more on this obviously in the five o' clock show. Neil McCabe, talk to me. What happened? We left last night. You were at the White House till 10:30 till you get the boot. We stayed till midnight. The event had just started. There wasn't a lot of footage from it. You called it though, sir, beforehand he said hey, if he gets a walk into the, if he gets a walk on the island, that means there's a little something special going on here. What's your assessment today as they're heading back and I guess they're going to try to land in Alaska shortly And we will cut to if there's any footage or if there's any president talking to the press will cut to or goes to the sticks we'll cut to that. Neil McCabe, your thoughts as you await the president at the White House.
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Neil McCabe
Yeah, good morning, Steve. The walk in Yangtai island was highly significant. On his second trip. Obama got that walk. Putin has gotten that walk. George W. Bush got that walk. It's sort of, there's a complex called the Jonan Hai complex, which is Three Lakes and it's sort of the hideaway with the grace and favor apartments for the communist leadership. And when people talk about, say the Pentagon or the White House in the US to mean like, you know, sort of that collective noun, when people talk about the Beijing government, they sort of refer to this compound as sort of that. Is that the collective noun for the government? And so the question was, you had tea, you had lunch, would he get a walk on the island? He did not get the walk on the island. And so, you know, you can read into it what you will. The president is heading home. This summit was not a disaster. The summer was. The summit was successful because he established that T and G have a working relationship. The world can take a breath. There were some kind of rumblings when he mentioned, you know, the US As a declining power when he was name checking the Thucydides trap. But you know, the Foreign Ministry has sort of cleared that up and the president cleared that up on his gaggle at Air Force.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on.
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Neil McCabe
Saying that China doesn't.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on. What do you, how do you define, I know you're reading the White House readout. How do you define success?
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Neil McCabe
Well, my expectations for this summit were maybe not as high as everyone else's. I think that they just needed to properly execute a summit. They got along. The Chinese government, Xi accepted Trump's framework for the Iran war. And of course, you know, Trump came into this thing without, hold it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Weapons. Hang on, hang on. We haven't, we haven't seen, we haven't seen, we haven't seen any on their readout or their foreign minister talk today, I think gave a press conference. I haven't heard anything. But the most, I haven't heard anything from them on. Have you heard from them or in the readout about Iran? What have they said about Iran? What have they said they've committed to in Iran?
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Neil McCabe
I take your point. The president said that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think the answer, I think. Hang on. I think the answer, I think the answer from. Listen, we raise them up to be like a co equal. They're not a co equal. Okay? We're the dominant power militarily, financially, morally. The, the, in our 250th year of which they took a shot at us and said hey, you know, we're good. We're celebrating our 5,000th year of civilization. How are you guys doing as a country in 250 years? How the kids, how's the kids table doing? Anyway, Neil, You're a good man, Neil.
- [43:48]
Donald Trump
Okay?
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Donald Trump
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Stephen K. Bannon
When, when the President arrives in Alaska I assume that he is going to talk to the media and what Neil was talking about there is the kind of framing from the, from the White House. I want to go to Captain for now. Captain, you've been at this a long time. Your give me your over your thoughts. When we last left you we were, we were having the Thucydides trap about the decline of the, of the hegemon, the declining power of the hegemon and the strength of the rising power being China. Of course the President came out very specifically yesterday and said hey that's not me on my watch, that's Biden on his watch. But I've turned this around. Of course the Wall Street Journal and many of the major papers picked up on our discussions. I think Thursday morning And really went into this, your assessment overall and particularly in this three island chain, Besant left early to go see Japan, the finance minister and the finance minister of South Korea, two of our great allies, to talk through the whole issues of the dollar, what they're going to do for support the situation with oil, all of it. Your assessment of all of that strategically and particularly regards to Taiwan, Sir Steve,
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Captain Fennell
I think there are two ways to look at this. There's a short term, there are some short term gains, some benefits, but there are some negatives. And then there's a strategic view that we need to take a strategic trend line view of it. So I compiled in my mind some of the benefits. Neil mentioned the vernacular that the President used on the Strait of Hormuz and controlling it and the no nukes for Iran. Yes, the Chinese haven't reiterated that in their press or by any official statements. But the President seized on that and got that narrative control, if you will. He also was very clear, he never said the word Taiwan while he was in China publicly. He said in this Air Force One press gaggle, he said he was asked about it and he was very strong saying I'm not going to say anything about this. I don't talk to you about it. I'm not going to discuss it with you. So I think that's, you know, a strategic ambiguity at its, its finest. And that leaves Xi having to wonder what we'll do. Some will see it as well. We've turned our back on Taiwan, but clearly we haven't. And I think the president also didn't commit to saying anything about arms sales because he was asked in the context of talking to Xi. And the Taiwan Relations act is very clear. You can't speak with China about what we're going to do with Taiwan. So I think the President distanced that. I think on the negative side, the issues that you raised earlier about students and Chinese students in America is very problematic. Selling farmland to Chinese is very problematic. Not getting a commitment on Jimmy Lai or even the pastors, very problematic. So there's some pluses and minuses. I think in terms of military strategic security in the Far east, the statements about or the no statements about Taiwan are reassuring. And I think that's the best thing that came out of this. But I would like to submit another thought which is the strategic trend line. And if you look at in 2014 when Xi came to Sunnylands in California, Xi Jinping was a brand new leader of China and he met with Obama and he had his team create this phrase, new type, great power relationship. And at the time, many of us said no US Government official or anybody should be reiterating that and using Chinese vernacular. And unfortunately, the Obama administration and Biden administration repeated that at selected times, kind of endorsing it. Now, what we have from the Chinese 12 years later is a new phrase that the Chinese have unloaded with President Trump's visit. And it's called the constructive China US Relationship of strategic stability. And so what does that mean? Well, we're not really sure, but it seems to be that it's in a continuation of what was created in 2013, 2014. And I passed a graphic to your team, if we can pull that up. In the great arc of the last 37 years, what we've seen in June of 1989 was Tank man, when the world watched as the Chinese Communist Party, led by Deng Xiaoping, murdered their people in Tiananmen Square and ran tanks over innocent civilians. And that's all the world talked about 37 years ago. What are the Chinese talking about today in this visit? They're talking about their airplane man. You can see on the right the picture of a Chinese soldier standing in front of Air Force One as they said, wow, not flinching, not moving, standing there, showing the power of China. So in the space of 37 years, the Chinese Communist Party has erased our feeling, visceral feeling, about the evilness of the Chinese Communist Party to where we now are meeting with them, talking with them, saying nice things about them and engaging with them. And as I've said on this show and Brad there and I have said in our book, embracing Communist China is America's greatest strategic failure. And I understand that President Trump wants to bring jobs home to farmers and to Boeing workers and to other Americans. And I get that. And he's the president, and he has to do that dance. But I'm warning and I'm advising as best I can, respectfully, that we got to be very, very careful about engaging with Communist China. It's a very dangerous thing. And that habit has put us in this position over the last 40, 50 years of doing that, has made us in this weakened position. The only thing that they understand is strength. And the president was strong with Xi. He didn't compromise on some things. But in terms of the rhetoric and the references to how good a person he is and things like that, it's problematic. On the plane, he said, if you want to call him a dictator, you have to figure that out. So he didn't deny that he was a dictator, but he didn't come out and say it. And I think that's the President's internal way he rolls. He doesn't want to be openly rude to people and maybe he doesn't have to be. But we have to be very, very, very careful about what we agree to, what contracts we have. And we should not be bringing in Chinese AI into America. Chinese automobile manufacturing into America. And we certainly shouldn't have 500,000 Chinese students here, which some percentage of them are Ministry of State Security spies that are all over the country. We just had another, you know, event in Arcadia, California with elected members of the city council and the mayor being Chinese spies. It's happening around the world. Norway in the last 24 hours announced they've had a Chinese spy breakout. The Chinese are stealing from us. They want to take our technology and they're turning that into a pla, People's Liberation army that is designed to sink American naval vessels and shoot down our aircraft and kill American soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang over a second. I'm gonna hold you into the second hour. Okay? Take your number two principle out. Write this down. Constructive strategic stability. It's a construction construct. It's a construct that's premise is there, like equal to us. And we got to kind of work together and figure this out. How about this? The answer is no. You cannot buy into that premise or you will have many dark days ahead. Short commercial break. POSO will join us on the other side.
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Donald Trump
Side.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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