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Episode 5377: What Happens Next In The Release Of Tina Peters; Texas And Nebraska Fights Continue Next Week
Episode 5377: What Happens Next In The Release Of Tina Peters; Texas And Nebraska Fights Continue Next Week ...
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News Anchor
The Democratic governor of Colorado is taking a lot of heat tonight for granting clemency to the last of Trump's allies still in prison for crimes related to trying to overturn the 2020 election. Tina Peters. She was serving a nine year sentence, but today she admitted for the first time she messed up. Quote, I made a mistake four years ago. I misled the Secretary of State when allowing a person to gain access to county voting equipment. That was wrong. What you talking about? Well, remember, Peters was tried and convicted of conspiring with other election deniers to breach her county's election Systems in a 2021 municipal election. And with the hope of finding evidence that would prove Trump's baseless 2020 fraud claims, the president had been pressuring Governor Jared Polis for months to let her go. Here's how he defended the decision tonight.
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Governor Jared Polis
She has very strange beliefs. She'll probably continue to have them. We don't punish people in this country for having strange beliefs. If you believe the earth's flat, you don't get, and you shouldn't get in our nation or my state, a harsher sentence than somebody believes that the earth is round. And that's what happened here because of her speech on what she believes, which I vehemently disagree with.
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Political Commentator 1
Yeah, this, like, makes me incredibly furious because we have one party in my mind that is not worried about election integrity. That's the Republicans. Unfortunately, the Democrats have to worry about it. For Jared Polis, who I served with in Congress, and this shocks me, by the way, for him to come on and say this is about somebody having a strange belief. No, this is about defending the integrity of the election system. She was found guilty and sentenced through a court of law. Now he's going to say that somebody else with a similar crime got less of a sentence. Okay. If you want to go through all of the people that have been convicted, for instance, of robbery in Colorado, and then give everybody that's been convicted of robbery the least sentence of somebody, you know, somebody may have gotten five months instead of 10 years. So now you're going to commute everybody to five months because we don't discriminate on this. I mean, it's insane. Jared Pollard did this in my polls, did this in my mind for one reason, because he's been pressured by Donald Trump and that's it. And now he found a reason to do this. And again, to have a Democrat out there now not defending election integrity is really, really angering for me.
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News Anchor
I mean, he denies that he did it for that reason. He, of course, heard what he had to say about it and thinking about the harshness of the crime. But if that's what you believe is the case here, then is this now one of many dominoes to fall if a governor is susceptible to that level of pressure?
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Political Commentator 1
Yeah, I mean, this is the point. One of the areas where we can still defend election integrity is at the state level. The federal government has no jurisdiction in that. What Jared Polis just told Donald Trump is pressure, whatever governor you can, because eventually they'll relent. They'll come up with a good excuse and say that we're. Because she believes the earth is flat or something like that is why she got a harsh sentence. That's not really his decision. That's the decision of a court of law. And again, if you want to go through and say, okay, now somebody got five months for robbery, so now everybody that ever did a robbery in Colorado should be reduced to five months. That's the same logic. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Political Commentator 2
There's, I mean, there's a blowback from Democrats and Republicans for this. Your Democratic AG said called it mind boggling and wrong as a basic, a matter of basic justice. The Mesa County Republican district attorney who prosecuted her said it was misguided and misunderstood decision that undermines accountability and erodes confidence in the integrity system. The clerks association in Colorado said that they're furious, disgusted and deeply disappointed by the reckless and dangerous message this sends. What message do you think it sends?
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Governor Jared Polis
Well, first of all, I commuted the sentences of nine people today. I pardoned 35. Tina Peters was not among those. The attorney general and the prosecuting attorney from Mesa county were part of the prosecution. And there's something about prosecutorial pride. Prosecutors are seldom if ever satisfied by the commutations I make. And sometimes they're quite mad. What a commutation is is effectively saying we're going to look at the sentence as a whole. Was it different than other people that committed the same crime? There was in fact, another public official in Colorado convicted of four felonies. One was the exact same felony as Tina Peters and she got zero time in prison. She got probation. Only had Tina Peters gotten a year or two years or even three, I don't think anybody would have batted an eye. But the reason we're here is because I fundamentally agree with the appeals court that the fact that she engages in speech and has beliefs that are far from the mainstream incorrect should not in fact be a basis for harsher sentencing in four and a half years instead of nine years. That's what we adjusted it to is frankly a tough but fair and defensible sentence for the crimes that she committed.
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Political Commentator 2
Just to follow up on what you said about this having nothing to do with the 2020 election. For people who didn't follow this closely, Tina Peters did give Mike Lindell, who everyone knows is the MyPillow guy, her badge. Basically her someone else's security badge so he could go in and access the Mesa county election system. And when this was happening, prosecutors said that she was fixated on voting problems after the 2020 election and had questioned the accuracy of those.
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Governor Jared Polis
And Caitlin, I just hate to interrupt you. This was related to the 2021 municipal election in the 2021. But she said Mike Lindell Biden won.
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Political Commentator 2
Did Mike Lindell get access to the to the election system or not?
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Governor Jared Polis
Absolutely, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I she had two co conspirators in the case. She illegally grant got one access to room after 2021. None of these crimes were in 2020. None of them had to do with President Trump's election. If they did, this would be a very different story and we wouldn't be where we are. This had to do with a minor municipal election and software.
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Political Commentator 2
But it came after the president tried to overturn the 2020 election and she was obviously a massive ally of his. And Mike Lyndell, I mean, didn't come out of nowhere. He was also chief among those leading the 2020 election. So I just think saying that they're totally separated.
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Texas Political Analyst
Yeah.
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Political Commentator 2
Is not how people view this.
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Governor Jared Polis
Yeah. You're speaking to her beliefs. She is somebody who probably, you'd have to ask her, believes in something happening with the 2020 election. Her crimes were not related to the action. She was county clerk. She certified Biden won. Trump happened to win her county. It's a conservative county. Her crimes were entirely related to to the 2021 municipal election. After ballots were counted, nothing was compromised. She had two coconspirators. They did everything as bad as she did. One got six months, one got probation only. And the unusual sentence for Tina, she had a poor defense. And as the appeals court with three Democratic appointed appeals justices found, she was ultimately punished for her beliefs and what she said rather than what she did.
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Election Integrity Advocate
Well, overall I think this is the wrong decision and it's a gross injustice to our elections, our democracy, election officials across this country. And frankly, Tina Peters actions has everything to do with the 2020 election. The governor is correct that she facilitated the compromising of voting equipment during 2021. But make no Mistake. The intent of her work was to try to prove Trump's big lie. And, Caitlin, just to clarify, Tina Peters did not let Mike Lindell into the voting equipment. There was someone else. But she did take the images of the voting equipment. Those were taken to Mike Lindell's cyber symposium, where they were supposedly going to prove once and for all how the election really was for Trump. Of course, it's a bunch of conspiracies. So I think overall, Tina Peters committed a crime. The judicial process should have been given the time to work out her sentencing. There was an active resentencing happening right now. And overall, this is. This grant of clemency is the wrong message to send in a time when our democracy is in crisis.
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Political Commentator 2
In her statement, Tina Peters said, following this commutation, I misled the Secretary of State when allowing a person to gain access to county voting equipment. That was wrong. Going forward, I will make sure that my actions always follow the law. You are the Secretary of State or the Secretary of State when this happened. Do you believe her?
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Election Integrity Advocate
Absolutely not. This is someone who really basked in the celebrity of MAGA conspiracy, fueled craziness and used her actions to fuel lies and further disinformation about our elections. And those lies, those conspiracies, have been used to attack elections and threaten election officials. I do not think that Tina Peters has shown remorse. I do believe in the judicial process. And as the governor said, the court of appeals did cite an issue with her sentencing and sent it back to the district court to resentence. Whatever that district court would have decided would have been fine. But I don't think that she should get special treatment. She has caused a lot of danger and damage in Colorado. But more than just that, this sends a message to Trump's followers that if they break the law, well, they might get off just fine. This sends a message to Donald Trump that if he retaliates hard enough, he'll be able to get a state to do his bidding. And this tells election officials that however hard we work, some people may just be above the law if they attack American democracy. That's a dangerous, dangerous message to send the country right now.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, Saturday, the 16th of May, in the year of our Lord 2026. We've got John Case from the her Colorado lawyer, the great John Case is going to join us here in a moment. Let's go to Tommy Robinson. The United Kingdom. Look at that. Isn't it magnificent? The United Kingdom rally. Hundreds of thousands, not millions, there with Tommy Robinson and others. Peter McElvenny is there. Karen Siegman is there. We can't really get, we can't. The, the. It's so hard to get Internet. It's very, it's very difficult. We're going to try to get them up. Very difficult. But we'll just watch that. Incredible. Harnwell is going to join us from Rome later. We're going to dip in and out of the rally, maybe get a speaker or two. We're pretty jammed here but always got time for Unite the Kingdom. And of course remember Starmer, you know the great defenders, as King Charles was lecturing us when he was here, the great defenders of, you know, the Magna Carta and the beginning of liberty and our liberty. All of it blocked some prominent Americans from going over because they said, Starmer said they're haters. They're haters. Anyway, there's a rally right there. Look at those flags of the United Kingdom and English flags, all of it. Just incredible patriotism. Unite the Kingdom. We're going to come back to that momentarily. Let me go to John Case. So John Case, thank you to the President United States and thank you to the, the Governor. He did take a courageous stand. He's getting the old, what, four from the left. Just unbelievable. They're coming after him big time because he did the right thing. President States had a huge hand in this. And it's not just the president talking to, talking to Polis and I'm sure putting some pressure on him. It's really Polis wants to be run for President United States understands he's got to get a bigger constituency than the fever swamps of the left. Jenna Griswold, John Case, what a piece of work. You guys have fought a great fight for Tina Peters but I'm telling you in Colorado it's all crazy all the time. What she say? We're maga conspiracy fueled madness. That's a good hook for the war room. I think we're going to get that into our cold open now. John Case, what do you got for us, brother?
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John Case
Well, Steve, first of all, our hearts are filled with joy and gratitude to Governor Polis for commuting a sentence that the court of Appeals found was illegal because it was imposed to punish Tina Peters for what she said about the corrupt voting system. What was left out of the Secretary of State and Governor Polis statements is that Tina Peters was prosecuted because she brought a qualified witness into the room where the Secretary of State was erasing the election records of the 2020 election. They do this every two years on Dominion voting Systems. The election happens in even numbered years. And the following spring, Dominion comes in with the Secretary of State and they erase all of the original digital records of the election. So they're gone. So the election can't be audited. And that is what Tina peters found in 2021 when she brought in the qualified consultant who had federal security clearances. So Secretary of State deleted the records. The court would not allow the jury to hear that election records were deleted by the Secretary of State. And they were not allowed to see the federal law that requires those records to be preserved. So we're joyous that Tina's been released. I know people are concerned about her health and safety in the penitentiary. Until June 1, she was offered a chance to go to solitary confinement for her own protection. But she's now been housed with inmates on good behavior and she feels safe there. And it's a small community. So she declined the invitation to go to solitary confinement. John, hang is not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on. We're going to hold you through the break. We got a lot more to go through. The Tina Peters. The war is definitely not over. Very, very, very good day. Great job. The entire Tina Peters team. We had Apollo 1 last night. Peter Tickton from her federal team, Pat McSweenney, that entire crowd, the people working around her, her team keeping the show going. A team effort. And a special thank you to the Commander in Chief and President of these United States. Okay, can we talk about what's really happening right now? New data shows financial stress is at an all time high. Millions of Americans are at a breaking point. Debt maxed out, no extra money, no room to breathe. And this isn't just lower income households anymore. Middle class families are hitting their limits too. This isn't about reckless spending. Everyday people are running out of options. So if debt has been weighing on you, you're not alone. And when it comes to debt, waiting usually makes it worse. Interest piles up. 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I hate to say we're the ones that called this but hey, we're the ones that called this. And now it's upon us and it ain't going to be happy talk that gets rid of it. That's a reality. And you talk about all the winds. We're going to have Harrison on here, Brian Harrison for Texas. We're going to talk about remember what happened when we when this audience and Brian Harrison led the charge to on a special session that was called but had, you know, the content was about, I guess property tax other thing to force the redistricting in Texas on there and then one it's powered all the way through now. But people cannot, cannot forget what the, what the grassroots did and particularly this Paxton race, which I am concerned about because Ken Paxton's got to be John Cornyn. John Cornyn spending, I think up to $120 million destroying John Case. I just want to go back to something for a second. Tina Peters did this because in her fiduciary here, she believed her fiduciary responsibility was, was to make sure that the secretary of state, who is totally corrupt and completely incompetent and in a, in a essentially, you know, out of control, couldn't erase the evidence of the 2020 election. And for that she went to prison in a very dangerous prison for a long time. Now people are concerned, the governor, President Trump been very involved in this. The governor has commuted her sentence, didn't pardon her, has commuted her sentence. Now I want to go to her safety. What's the situation with safety here? Because people are very, you know, we've this show more than others followed the last time she was essentially attacked in this because this woman's prison has murderers, it has very bad hombres or ombrets maybe in this case. But it's a dangerous place. Is she in solitary confinement? She's opted that she's still in general population, but now she's in a, in a nicer area. And if she's in a nicer area, the audience's question is why wasn't Tina Peters at 70 years old and a gold star mother in there for even polis said other people didn't get sentenced at all. Why was she not in this section of the prison to begin with, sir?
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John Case
Great question, Steve. Well, she applied for that privilege eight times and was turned down. It turned out that one person in the prison administration was controlling that decision and just kept rejecting her applications. And then recently that person was on leave or transferred to another facility and she was immediately admitted to what's called the incentive unit, which is where people on good behavior are placed. So she's happy There, and we'll spend the next two weeks there until she's released on June 1st. And the warden told her, if you have any problems threatening your safety, let me know personally immediately. And Tina agreed to do that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, but in prison, it's not that. In prison, it's not that. It's just not that easy. Anyway, she is in a better unit, and hopefully people will be on top of this. We'll be on top of this. I know you will be in Peter Tickton. The fight is. Give me a minute or two on. The fight is far from over, though. Tina will be released on a commutation of a sentence on one June. But there's also much more work to go on. I want to make sure people know briefly what that work is, what you guys are working on, and then how they can support you guys.
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John Case
Yeah, thanks for that question, Steve. So we need to get her convictions reversed because we believe, and have always believed, that she was unjustly convicted because the jury was not properly instructed and she wasn't allowed to present evidence in the case. She wasn't allowed to present a complete defense, which is your right under the due process clause of the US And Colorado constitutions. So we need to get her convictions reversed. That involves petitioning first the Colorado Supreme Court for a writ of certiorari to review. The decision of the court of appeals will file that petition next Thursday, May 21, and then if that fails, then we'll be applying for the same writ from the U.S. supreme Court. So those are the legal proceedings involved. Many of the lawyers on the team haven't been paid in several months, and it takes money to fund these things. So we appreciate all your contributions which you can make at tinapeters. Us, but the bigger fight is for free speech and fair elections. So that's what Tina is going to undertake when she's released. And that's important because it affects everybody's rights. You want to be able to speak freely, and you want your vote to be counted honestly and transparently so that elections are auditable. They can be recounted if necessary. Well, with these computer systems, the black box tells you who won, and you have to accept it. There's no auditing what happened, because it's a mystery what happens inside the black boxes. So we need to get rid of the machines and go back to hand counting the way most of the modern world counts votes in elections. And so if you can help with that, go to tinapeters. Us. That's tinapeters Us. You can find all the latest information on her case and on her health. And you can read the governor's letter in which he commuted her sentence, and you can find the latest information and you can also contribute, which we appreciate very much. Tina wants. She asked me to thank all of her supporters for your prayers. They've been answered for her freedom and her health. So again, our hearts are full of gratitude and joy that she's going to be released on June 1.
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Stephen K. Bannon
One of the most courageous people I've ever met to live in that hellhole. You have no idea what hellholes these prisons are. And I was in a low security. Right. Tina Peters is in a high security prison because they put all the murders that were in there. That is a hellhole. And it was done to intimidate, knowing that eight times she applied to go to the part of the prison that has more of the white collar people, et cetera, where they normally segregate away from the general population that are the really bad hombres that have done violent crimes, that have done murders, that have been associated. They kept her in there to break her. Always remember that and remember this audience and everybody associated with this. That is going to be your fate, too, if these Marxists take over. You see, look at Jenna Griswold right there, that ugly mug sitting there saying, oh, she should serve at the time. Jenna Griswold, your day will come, ma'.
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Texas Political Analyst
Am.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We will turn the tables and your day will come. We're going to get to the bottom of the 2020 of what happened and what you did. And to know that the people of Colorado, even considering you for higher office, is a disgrace and a black mark upon a great state, one of the greatest states in this country, the state of Colorado. So, John, as you know, we're all in and down hard on this, so look forward to having you back, sir, one more time, where do people go if they want to contribute?
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John Case
Tinapeters us. And thank you very much, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, sir. Voting day in Louisiana.
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Political Commentator 1
Also.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Cassidy's on the ballot. Not a fan of President Trump. And President Trump understands this. Make sure you go if you're in. If you're in Louisiana, you're out. Voting day. Let's play. We got a clip from Brian Harris. I got about a minute on this side and then Brian's going to stick around. Let's go and play.
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Texas Political Analyst
It moves.
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Stephen K. Bannon
The House adjourned pending the reading and
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Texas Political Analyst
referral of bills and receipt of messages until 10am on Monday.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Is there objection? Chair here is none.
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Texas Political Analyst
The House stands adjourned pending the Receipt reading and referral of bills and receipt of messages.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So Harrison, this is about the Democrats that ran away. Please tell me all their parking spots are gone. Their free lunches are gone, their place in the cafeteria are gone on. Their offices are moved. They've been thrown off committees. They are actually thrown out of this Texas legislature. All of that happened, right? So when you guys wrapped up, all of that's done as. As you said had to be done, sir.
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Texas Political Analyst
Well, cut him some slack, Steve. I mean they've only. It's only been 286 days until the Democrats since the Democrats fled the state. And as that video showed, they didn't just sneak out the back door. No, no, no. Over my loud objection, the mice could barely pick it out. If you could hear, I screamed object. Our fake Republican rhino Democrat elected speaker literally had the Democrats. We were on the floor, we were in the House. The doors were closed. We had the new congressional redistricting maps. They had been filed. All he had to do was close the doors and keep them there. What's called a call to the call the House. It's. It can be done easily. No, no, no. He helped the Democrats. He aided and abetted the Democrats. He let them get a jump. So start fleeing the state by releasing them to flee into the arms of Hakeem Jeffries, who, I'm not joking, had flown down to Texas to meet with the Democrats. So that video was the start 280something days ago of the Democrat war and break. And I wish Steve, I could tell you that all those things had happened, but no, they still chair powerful committees, including committees that write the budget in the state of Texas. Okay, there's still.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Texas Political Analyst
Okay.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Right there you see the streets of London. London has not fallen. Tommy Robinson and unite the kingdom in the streets today. Massive crowds. Glenn Beck, one of our partners on the Prop 10 in, in Texas, the prohibiting Sharia law that was so overwhelmingly successful. He is one of the, he was one of the speakers. I think we're trying to get his feature. Can't get it today. We're gonna play it on Monday. At least part of it. Peter McElven is there, Karen Sigmund there, others that were associated with this Texas movement. So I want to thank everybody. Just amazing, amazing crowd. Look at that turnout. They're just not going to let, they're just not going to let the country be stolen. Should be a lesson for everybody. Grassroots is not going to let that happen. I want to go back to Brian Harrison Bryant. You just got to go back in time because this is a, it's a massive grassroots victory. It showed the establishment were not prepared to fight. In fact, they're part of the problem. But what you and the Texas grassroots did in last summer initiated the momentum and the enthusiasm that is carried all the way through the Prop 10. Paxton's great showing in the primary, all the victories are had there, but particularly throughout the rest of the country. This is why we picked up, we're going to pick up at least a net 10 seats on redistricting because of the fight of you guys. I just want to make sure people understand this, the odds. Although it was thrown into the special, not the regular session, a special session, there was no heat on this thing that there was just going to come and go. And you saw this when the Democrats left the establishment. I mean you even, you came on here every day, morning and afternoon. It was amazing. The Texas grassroots are amazing. They just need a little leadership and let people know you're fighting. But you would come and mock guys and say they haven't taken away their parking spots, they haven't taken away their seats in the cafeteria for lunch, nothing. And I take it now they've made that formal.
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Texas Political Analyst
Yeah, I mean I was at the Capitol the other day driving to go to my office there. And I couldn't even take the primo parking spots because those are still reserved for the Democrats that yes, have massive seniority in the Texas House or I was relegated to my parking spot, you know, that way down in the basement. Right? So no, the Texas Democrats, they still have their parking spots. They've still got their cap, cafeteria passes, they got all their checks, they got all their money. They haven't been forced to pay any fines. There is some bad, really bad kabuki theater. Some of our speaker, our rhino speakers, Democrat buddies are like trying to, you know, help him out, throwing him a bone. Be like, well, because he knows he can't go into next year. Be like, well you didn't punish the Democrats. So some of the Democrats, his buddies are like voluntarily paying the fines that all the House leadership did. They voted the other day to reduce the fines and a couple of them are voluntarily throwing a few bucks and oh no, look how punished we are. It's all bad theater. But no, the governor of the state of Texas made a famous promise 200 something days ago. If those Democrats don't Show up by 3 o', clock, I'm going to vacate their seats. Well, the supreme Court just put an end to that bad kabuki theater and said, are you kidding? Why are you, why are you throwing this hot potato to us? You guys have the political tools to deal with it. The governor didn't do it. And by the way, he could have. If the governor and his team watching, you could still do this right now all you got to do is say I, this is what I would do if I were governor. I, governor of Texas, under the authority vested in me by the constitution of the state of Texas, do hereby pledge to veto any piece of legislation that has the name of any Democrat who was derelict in their duty and fled the state to break a constitutional quorum. That would get their attention. That'd be hardball because the next four years they couldn't pass a bill. The speaker has all these same tools. But no, our speaker was elected by the Democrats. He works for the Democrats. He released the Democrats to break quorum and he brought them back without punishment. Democrats still chair committees in the state of Texas, Powerful ones. They co chair every single committee in the Texas House. A Barack Obama lawyer is still the most powerful staffer to the Speaker. The House parliamentarian. He just waves his pin like a wand and kills any conservative bill or amendment that he wants. That is the case. They have not been punished. And here's the reality Republicans in name only run the show down here in Austin. Every conservative victory in the posse has been a huge part of this that we have achieved. Where they're stopping the Texas government from funding so much on transgender indoctrination or facilitating illegal immigrations and the H1B stuff or DEI or getting rid of the transgender advocating president of Texas A and M. Those have all come from the conservative grassroots. If we're going to save Texas in America, it is not going to come from the liberal special interest in the top down that control Washington and Austin. It's going to come from grassroots patriots like the viewers of the Posse, like the millions of people who melted the phone lines of our governor, lieutenant governor, speaker last year and said, you get this redistricting done. I firmly believe that if the liberal establishment in Austin had wanted to do redistricting, it would have been done during the regular session. And if not, then they would have used the political tools that even the Supreme Court, when they slapped down our governor's ridiculous request for the judges to solve the problem for my kick out and vacate these chairs. Right. Because not one single member has been vacated. The Supreme Court mocked him basically and said, you guys, and especially in the House, the Speaker of the House, you didn't use any of the political tools. They said you didn't even scratch the surface of the political tools. And to your mention, to your point, Steve, taking away their parking spots, I don't even think that would have scratched the surface, but it would have been more than we've done today. So no, Democrats continue to control the Texas House. That's the bad news. Democrats wield massive power and the Republican dominated Texas government. But the good news is patriotic Texans and Americans are having their eyes open like never before. And when they hold their elected officials feet to the fire, that's when we achieve massive conservative victories. Just like this redistricting battle a year ago.
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, in what happened in the primary. Here's my concern. I'm concerned about this Paxton race because now I think the number's up to 120 million. You're getting on 120 million. The new wave of ads is even worse than the first wave. It's not policy. It's all about Ken Paxton's terrible. And I'm concerned about that. I'm also concerned about an energized group of Democrats down in Texas. They're flooding the zone down there with money. They see opportunities in Texas. They got the working family party. They. They've essentially copied the war on Posse and the Precinct strategy and the turning point and the, you know, the Trump base, you know, voter contact, grassroots knocking on doors. They're energized because they understand the midterms for them means the end of Trump. Sir.
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Texas Political Analyst
Yeah, no, you're 100% right. I'll tell you in Texas, and I hate that I have to say this on national television, the Democrats are more energized and more organized than I've ever seen them in Texas, at least in a very long time. And in fact, they are put, they are on offense in every single, yes, you mentioned one of the high profile ones at the Senate race. But like every state and federal race, the Democrats are on offense. They found a candidate for no matter how safe, how red the seat was, they feel that a Democrat, they're funding the Democrats. They're organizing a ground game in every single state and federal office in the state of Texas. And by the way, I can't say the same for the Republican Party in Texas. That's just not true. We have, we have many Democrats that are running uncontested, but there's no Republican, state or federal that's running in an uncontested because the Democrats are organized, they're energized. They had a big victory and big upset victory in Tarrant county in a Texas Senate race that they should have gotten demolished in, but they won by a massive margin. The Democrats are excited, they're organized and they're pouring massive amounts of money. And back to the Republicans because you mentioned the primaries, let me give a word of advice to my fellow Republicans, elected officers in the state of Texas, people who want Republicans to win in the midterms. The way you lose in midterms is by being weak and liberal and acting like the Democrats or like a light version, a weak version of what the Democrats have on offer. Stop doing that. The Senate race. John Corden wouldn't be in a fight for his political life if he hadn't done things like, I don't know, support red flag laws and being weak on core Republican values like the right to keep and bear arms and on the Second Amendment, the way we win at the ballot box. The conventional wisdom in Washington and Austin is all wrong. It's not by watering down what we believe. It's by doubling down on the principles that made our state and our country great. Low taxes, low regulation, maximum individual liberty, secure borders, fighting illegal immigration, making America and making Texas as prosperous as we can be, by allowing our kids and protecting the blessings of prosperity that liberty and individual freedom bring. So don't be weak, as if that because that's what the Democrats, the media wants you to believe. Republicans, sell out your values, sell out your voters. That's how you win elections. Knowing the exact opposite is true because you're going to demoralize your Republican base. Republican and conservative voters need a reason to go out. They need a reason to get to the polls. And I believe there is no greater motivator to go to the ballot box and understand that you've got a chance to elect Republicans and that if you're electing Republicans that are going to stand firm and fight the swamp, fight the media, fight the Democrats, those are the people that Republicans will take time out of their day, go to the polls because they will know that by doing that action they're doing a small part to protect freedom and liberty for their kids and their grandkids. So be bold. Stop listening to the media. That's what we got to do to win in the midterms. And I'm, and there's, there's reason to be concerned right now, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Early voting starts on Monday. I believe in Texas for this, for this runoff.
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Eric Underwood
Brian.
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Political Commentator 1
This.
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Texas Political Analyst
Yeah, it starts this week. So we're here. It's time to start voting.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, we're starting. We're going to cover it wall to wall. Brian Harrison, you are the. Your Twitter feed is not appreciated by the power structure in Austin. Is not appreciated. That's exactly why every war room posse member should go right now totally free and sign up and follow Brian Harrison where they go.
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Texas Political Analyst
Sir. Yeah, go at Brian E. Harrison on X. Do your small civic. Dude, if you want to do one thing today to piss off a rhino, go to social media. Go to X at Brian E. Harrison. Like follow, subscribe, share we got a newsletter you can sign up for there. If you want the truth about what's going on in the greatest state and the greatest country in the world, that's Texas. The mainstream media is not going to give it to you. The Texas based media isn't going to give it to you. I'm living the battles on the front lines and the way we're going to save our state is by getting the grassroots to hold their elected account officials feet to the fire. That's how we save Texas, that's how we save the nation and that's how we save the world. At Brian E. Harrison on X. Please go at Brian E. Harrison on X and give us a follow.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you brother. Appreciate it. Look forward to seeing you next week. Let's go to Nebraska. Eric Underwood, the former head of the gop. Eric, we had a big, big grassroots, grassroots victory, particularly where it counts. Secretary of State, walk us through what's happening in Nebraska, sir.
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Eric Underwood
Well, thanks, Steve, for having us on. And Nebraska is leading in, in a unique way, very similar to what we're talking about in Texas. The, the similarity is it's very interesting to hear a red state have the same problems as Nebraska. The unique thing that's in Nebraska is because we only have one legislative body, we don't have to be fighting two front battle there trying to get people elected. Then you start to look at those singular positions and the easiest fruit this year to pick off the branch was the Secretary of State's race. And when you start to think about what changes can occur, especially in our elections, this was one of the most fundamental changes that had to happen in the state of Nebraska. And it's sending shockwaves through the establishment going, how did this happen? And the interesting thing is that most people think that they can spend a lot of time in the party at the lake, local, the county and the statewide races, grassroots who put a lot of energy into the governance of those. But what we don't seem to focus on specifically is one objective, and this last two months, as Scott Peterson entered the race for Secretary of State to go against an eight year incumbent going for his third term, Scott Peterson put principles on the ballot. His race became very singular, or at least pretty much singular minded when it came to election security, election protection. It's a national message which fits well. And that's what a lot of the consulting companies, especially those that have been controlling national policy, have been a dismissive mindset. They'll throw it onto a palm card, they'll mail 13 times into a single person's household about one message. But in the end, the people across the country, the people of Nebraska, when they say who's the party? The politicals like to point back to the county parties and state parties and say, look at how they're acting, especially if they're becoming grassroots. The people are going, but the elected officials are the party. And when they don't do what they say they're going to do, or they don't even listen to us and then expect us to somehow assemble and show up to all the committee hearings or do our local races and go to those local committees and they blame us for losses to the Democrats, there comes a point where they decided to push back. And in Nebraska, the Secretary of State's race, where Scott Peterson and his team went very Direct. And it was a 10 point win. Talk about basically showing that we're done with the bs. Scott Peterson's race became a defining point in Nebraska's politics because the establishment was not expecting it. The consulting companies have not been understanding. There's a few new consulting companies coming into Nebraska that have finally changed the messaging. But Nebraska politics and the grassroots have been very archaic. They just think we can mail it out there. What's happening now is because we took over the party in 2022, taken four years, but something like this could happen. And now you have new consulting companies coming in, those that actually are younger, that believe in, as you said, the precinct model, the turning point model, all of those where you connect to the voters and elected officials. They don't know what to do with all this messaging. And that's my biggest point. And to mirror what was talking, what Brian was talking about in Texas, we have to go to the door. You have to go to the door to represent your principals. And even more so, maybe a candidate such as Scott was for Secretary of State. But that's why we formed advocates for all Nebraska.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Eric Underwood
Because at this point, if you don't do this, if the Patriots and the grassroots don't go through the doors and connect either the candidate and those principals or as we're doing with with petitions in Nebraska we have petitions for a hand count ballot petition and the winner take all petition. If you don't go to the door and connect to those voters on the principles the Democrats will, or even worse, that voter stays home. We are in a losing math game even though we have the numbers and the problem is the losing comes from Republican. Weak Republicans that don't do what they say they're going to do, or even worse, are trying to distance themselves, keep a little distance from association to President Trump until the midterms hit, because they believe President Trump will then become bad for Republican business and America first will be bad for Republican business business. And the moderation will come in. And with moderation comes incrementalism. And the consultants love that because then you can make more money off of every campaign. The grassroots have one way to gain political leverage, and Charlie Kirk told me this in person when he was sitting in my restaurant. Political influence comes from political leverage. The consultants and the. They have the titles and the money, but the grassroots have the people and the principals. You have to go to the door. If you do it by petition, you can start now connecting to those people, building the relationships, and then backfill with, and here's a candidate that matches those same principles. That's what we're doing in Nebraska. And if we don't, the Democrats are going to win the midterm and they're going to change just enough that the Republican consultants and those that are. I mean, in Nebraska, I have the largest consulting company running the show for the last decade, and we took them out in 2022, and this is the result. The grassroots persisted, kept going, connecting to the people on their principles, and now we can move forward with a strong position, such as the Secretary of State. You have to go to the door and you have to connect to people on their principles.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I want people to know where to contact you, where they go today.
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Eric Underwood
Sir, you can go to my Twitter feed, which is at2022 Nebula Maverick. I also have a subtact sub stack at Eric Underwood 2 and our petition drive is being run by a 501C4 that we created called Advocates for All Nebraskans. This scenario is where you can reach out and. And I want to help people across the country. I've helped so many state parties and county parties get built up. We want to help build up how we connect to the door. It's not just with candidates. It can be done by petitions. And once the elected officials who make laws realize that the people start to circumvent their ability to make laws and actually do it without them, that's when the true political leverage will come in. So this is where we've changed both facets. We get strong people in, like Scott Peterson for Secretary of State, and we fix our election elections, and we do laws that will. That will actually Help and impact. Or as I have a new slogan, make Nebraska even better. Once you make things better, people will stick with that party.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Eric Underwood, I want to thank you. Magnificent. I want everybody to go to your, to your social media and to your site today. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. And the folks in Nebraska, the precinct strategy are fighting hard, took over the.
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Eric Underwood
Thank you, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, brother. I want to duly note that if you look over the last week, these fights we've had on these unconstitutional seats, flipping them, these are red states, folks. Texas is a red state. The huge fight there. Nebraska's a red state. South Carolina, all you doing a great job to get to McMasters. Red State. Louisiana, red state. Alabama, red state. Mississippi, red. Not just red states, these are the reddest states in the union. And what we spent the last two weeks on fights between the grassroots and the Republican establishment because that's they're not really conservatives. They are the controlled opposition of the ruling class that rules this country. Nothing could be plainer. What the French poets say that lost his life in the opening days of World War I. The most important thing is to see what you see. To see what you see and you see in these red states and the fights and good. We're going to le. We're going to leave nine, nine seats on the table. Nine going to leave nine table. Maybe only eight because this situation in South Carolina. But think of the fight you've had to head and hey, I'd like to say, you know, to wish it away, but you're not going to wish it away. Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna come back. Natalie Winners is going to join us. Talk about, see what you see. Remember Natalie did a tour of Asia last year, then she was invited back. She did a one on one with the vice president of Taiwan. This incredible interview. She's going to join us because of this, the trip that took place with the president, United States. We're going to play some clips, I guess his interview with Brett Bear. Anyway, we've got to get our arms around this. The Chinese Communist Party is not a peer competitor, they're not a partner. They're not going to be a strategic partner. They are a flat out cold enemy of Lao Beijing, the Chinese people. They're an enemy of citizens of the United States and they are enemies of the United States of America. The coldest blood is murdering thugs alive today on planet Earth is the senior level cadre that runs the Chinese Communist Party and runs China. Short commercial break. Back with Natalie windows in a moment. We need help from the boss. Everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle east is raising oil prices. But there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being constrained. About one third of global fertilizer trade happens through this region. And with spring planting season on top of us, American farmers are sounding the alarm with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields. When one piece of the supply chain gets hit this hard, you know what comes next? Higher food prices, reduced availability, maybe even panic buying. That's why having an emergency food supply at home makes so much sense. And that's where our friends at my Patriot Supply come in. Right now@preparedwithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com we've set up an entire just site for the war room posse. You go to prepare with bannon.com that's all one word. Preparewithbannon.com you get a three month emergency food supply. Don't include a free mega protein Upgrade, an incredible $200 bonus you don't want to miss. It's a simple way to protect your family from whatever comes next. Go to preparewithbannon.com that is preparewithbannon.com to get your emergency food supply today. That's preparewithbanet. Com. Do it today. Go check it out.