Episode 5391: Failure To Pass The SAVE America Act; AI Polling And Recent Grad Sentiment

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 5391

Date: May 22, 2026
Episode Title: Failure To Pass The SAVE America Act; AI Polling And Recent Grad Sentiment
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Key Guests: Caroline Wren, Eric Bolling, Joe Allen, Jim Rickards, Unknown Political Candidate

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Episode Overview

This episode is a fast-moving, hard-hitting roundtable breaking down the latest battles in the MAGA movement—from the Texas Senate primary fight and the implications of the stalled "Save America Act" in Congress to explosive commentary on the future of AI governance and economic headwinds. Host Steve Bannon leads panelists through insider political strategies, campaign pulse checks, Senate power struggles, and deeper anxieties about the U.S. economic model and societal direction.

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Main Segments & Key Insights

I. Texas Senate Race Showdown: Cornyn vs. Paxton

00:00–04:40

Key Points

• Cornyn’s Negative Ads:
  • Candidate will not stop "negative" campaigning against Ken Paxton, who they argue must be "held accountable" for corruption scandals.
  • "Judgment day is coming for Ken Paxton." (Unknown Political Candidate, 00:11)
• Support for Ticket:
  • The candidate confirms they would still support Paxton if he wins the primary. (01:22)
  • Tension exists over Trump's endorsement and expectations for candidates to drop out.
• Impact on GOP:
  • Candidate warns Paxton as nominee would be a drag on GOP success across Texas and beyond, possibly leading to Democratic wins down-ballot and draining GOP national resources.
  • Paxton is labeled as an "albatross around the neck of the Republican ticket." (03:20)

Memorable Quote

"We're running through the tape and we're here to ask for every vote that we can get. And I think that will be justice for Ken Paxton."
— Unknown Political Candidate (03:58)

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II. The Save America Act—Senate Stonewall & Filibuster Frustration

04:40–22:53

Key Points

• Trump’s Obsession:
  • According to Bannon and Wren, passing the Save America Act is central to Trump’s 2026 agenda—closing the border, securing elections, and preventing non-citizen voting.
• Senate Inaction:
  • Bannon harshly criticizes Cornyn, Thune, and Senate GOP leadership for not pushing the Act, labeling Senate action as "performative" and obstructionist.

    "Cornyn and these guys refuse to work on it ... The grassroots base, the MAGA base, is turfing out John Cornyn on Tuesday." (Bannon, 07:32)

• Filibuster as Corporate Tool:
  • Wren calls for "nuking the filibuster" as the only real path to passing the Act, highlighting lobbyist and corporate interest in maintaining the 60-vote requirement.

    "It is those lobbyists that do the wheeling and dealing ... It was the corporations and lobbyists that put in this 60 vote threshold." (Wren, 17:26)

• Majority Math & MAGA Pressure:
  • GOP needs to sweep key Senate seats and install filibuster opponents—"lean in hard" to 2026 races to set up Trump’s legislative blitz after January 2027.

Quote

"The only way to pass the Save America Act is to nuke the filibuster, because you're never gonna get 60 votes ... because the Democrats cannot vote yes ... we need new blood and people that actually support Trump's agenda." — Caroline Wren (08:39)

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III. AI: Regulation, Executive Order, and the “Cyborgization” of America

26:43–35:56

Key Points

• AI Oversight Drama:
  • White House pulls back an executive order on AI after pushback from powerful tech interests, including Musk and Zuckerberg, prompting alarm.

    "The President was influenced by those who have the biggest vested interest in making sure these guys never really have any government oversight, that they're self-regulated." (Joe Allen, 26:43)

• AI as Existential Risk:
  • Bannon and Allen debate the U.S.–China “AI race,” with Allen dismissing it as industry spin used to accelerate AI advancement at public expense, warning of AI-induced cultural decay and job loss.
  • Allen: "The entire push of the AI industry is not towards national security. The push is to flood the culture with as many bots as they possibly can..." (31:25)
• Public Demand for Oversight:
  • Allen insists Americans across party lines want tech power curtailed and real regulatory oversight, not voluntary guidelines.

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IV. The Economy & the Federal Reserve: Headwinds and AI-Driven Disruption

39:36–51:20

Key Points

• War, Oil, and Inflation:
  • With Middle East tensions and the Hajj starting, oil prices are expected to be volatile, keeping inflation high in the short term.
  • "You can't attack a Muslim country during the Hajj ... so you can't attack for months. Oil will stay up." (Bolling, 37:00)
• Monetary Tightening:
  • Trump’s new Fed nominee Kevin Warsh is seen as likely to hold rates steady, while predecessor Powell would have kept hiking.
  • "We're on a perpetual margin call ... approaching $30 trillion in debt, we have to finance that, and we use those folks [foreign creditors]." (Bolling, 46:33)
• AI & Labor Market Anxieties:
  • Bannon and Bolling argue the entire U.S. economic bet is now on AI generating massive productivity gains—which translates into job losses, especially for new grads and older STEM workers.
  • "You should assume that means massive job cuts ... for young people coming out of STEM ... virtually no opportunities for older STEM workers ... That’s the bet." (Bannon, 48:42)
• Skeptical of "Growth Strategy":
  • Bannon is skeptical that simply restoring “energy dominance” or returning to supply-side growth policies can overcome structural headwinds and uncertainty.

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V. Redistricting Battles: South Carolina & Alabama

22:53–25:29

Key Points

• South Carolina: Wren outlines an upcoming procedural vote as critical for passing a redistricting bill targeting Clyburn's district.
• Alabama: Wren sees little chance for further GOP seat gains.

• "If it does fail today, though, we're not dead ... we still have to see it through the entire timeline." (Wren, 24:32)

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Highlighted Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Ken Paxton’s Impact

• "Ken Paxton would be at an albatross around the neck of the Republican ticket in November." (Unknown Political Candidate, 03:20)

On Senate Republican Leadership

• "The Senate is the institution in which the ruling class of this country controls ... That’s why Cornyn had a path to save himself. ... he thought he could just bluff his way through here." (Bannon, 10:12)

On the Filibuster

• "The filibuster is not something that was in our Constitution ... the biggest benefit of the filibuster ... is K Street, the lobbyists and corporations." (Wren, 17:26)

On AI and National Security

• "The entire push of the AI industry is not towards national security. The push is to flood the culture with as many bots as they possibly can ... This cyborgization of society seems to be the goal of these companies." (Joe Allen, 31:25)

On the Economy & AI Disruption

• "When I say productivity increases, you should assume that means massive job cuts ... That’s the bet. It’d be quite difficult, I think, to kick back and go to the growth strategy." (Bannon, 48:42)

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Important Timestamps

• Texas Senate race discussion: 00:00 – 04:40
• Save America Act, filibuster debate: 04:40 – 22:53
• AI executive order and oversight debate: 26:43 – 35:56
• Economy, oil, Federal Reserve analysis: 39:36 – 51:20
• Redistricting battles update: 22:53 – 25:29

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Conclusion & Takeaway

Bannon’s War Room 5391 is a whirlwind tour through present-day political combat, where key legislative ambitions (Save America Act), internal GOP power struggles, tech regulation battles, and economic uncertainties collide. Guests offer unfiltered MAGA perspective on the need for sharper political knives, skepticism of establishment motives, and a pressing call for grassroots accountability. The episode is essential listening for anyone seeking an insider’s take on the MAGA movement’s ongoing turf wars—where the stakes, in their words, are the future of the GOP, American sovereignty, technological destiny, and national prosperity.

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Transcript

[Eric Bolling]

Ken Baxter said he's going to stop

[Caroline Wren]

negative ads on television. His PAC has vowed to do the same thing. Will you do that? Or how do you feel about him saying he's going to do that at this stage in the race when it's not over?

[Unknown Political Candidate]

You know, Judgment day is coming for Ken Paxton, maybe in more ways than one. But the election on May 26 is the first time he will actually have been held accountable for all of his misdeeds. He lied to his senior staff who turned him in to the FBI because they he was interfering with a federal investigation of his campaign treasurers. When he fired them, they became whistleblowers, sued him and got a $6.6 million judgment against the state of Texas. That's you and me. He's not going to have to pay that you are. And then he's lied to the American, the people of our great state. And so the question arises, why on the world, on what possible basis would you trust Ken Paxton? Said, no, we're not going to, we're not going to quit telling the truth about his record because I believe that accountability is critical. And I do believe that May 26th will be judgment Day for Ken Paxton in Texas.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If Ken Paxton is the nominee, would

[Caroline Wren]

you vote for him?

[Unknown Political Candidate]

I've said I will support the ticket.

[Caroline Wren]

And a quick follow up question.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

After the March primary, President Trump said that he would be endorsing someone in

[Caroline Wren]

this race and that he would ask the other candidate to drop out. You obviously are not dropping out. You're fighting through having events all over

[Stephen K. Bannon]

the state of Texas. Your message for President Trump about you

[Caroline Wren]

staying in this race?

[Unknown Political Candidate]

Well, I think it's significant that the president hasn't made that request. He's called me a friend and that's no, no surprise because I've supported him and his policies. You may have seen a commercial or two to that effect. 99.3% of the time, actually. It's funny. Quick story. I was in Dallas and visiting at First Baptist Church there, and one of the associate pastors came in with his two young boys and he said, we told him on the way to church, we were going to, they were going to meet Senator John Cornyn. And they piped up, he's voted 99.3% of the time with President Trump. And I said, well, that's great. The message is getting through, but it's the wrong demographic. But no, this is going to be. We're running through the tape and we're here to ask for every vote that we can get. And I think that will be justice for Ken Paxton. But if Ken Paxton, with the incredible baggage that he brings into this election, were to somehow end up being the nominee, he could well lose that race to James Talarico. We haven't elected a Democrat statewide in Texas since 1990. You know what that would mean not only for our state, but President Trump's agenda. Because the money that would have to be spent here in Texas to salvage a flawed candidate like Ken Paxton has to come from somewhere. And where it would likely come from is other key Senate races around the country, like Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, New Hampshire. It would be hundreds of millions of dollars and there's still a good chance that he would lose. But even if he somehow, by some strange occurrence, happened to become the nominee, it will not. He will not be winning by the kinds of margins that would be necessary to help down ballot. And so just to be specific about that, that means the five new congressional seats that President Trump wanted Texas to draw, which we did draw, those will all be right below the Senate race on the ballot. And then you get to the state races, then you get to all the other statewide races. Ken Paxton would be at an albatross around the neck of the Republican ticket in November. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't literally be running today. But I'm proud of what we've accomplished in our state. I know it's worth fighting for, and that's why we're fighting to win this election.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, you're fighting, you're fighting. Judgment Day is coming for. For. For Cornyn and La Civita. $150 million, which the ads have gotten uglier and nastier. And there's a poll. Caroline Wren's going to join me here Friday 22nd May Uevrola 2026. Kicking off our Memorial Day coverage. Got an amazing special tomorrow. Tell you more about it. And then obviously we're live on Monday again with four hours of coverage from 10am to 2pm on all the commemoration by President Trump and at Arlington National Cemetery and all of it. Caroline Wren, Judgment Day is coming. I believe in accountability. What Cornyn said. The President of these United States just put up on Truth Social, passed the Save America Act. He's obsessed with it because he understands how important it is for the country. Connect the dots there. You actually came up with a strategy. You gave Cornyn a path to victory. All Cornyn had to do was to work with Thune and passed the Save America Act. And unprecedented in American history, Ken Paxton being the Patriot that he is understanding how important this is for the president's agenda, how important it is for maga. He offered himself up. No politician in the history of the country has said, hey, if my opponent will do his job, just do his job and work at the President of the United States, I will step down. After spending, I don't know, 20 or 30 years as attorney General in other positions that he would basically give up his political career. And he's worked so hard the last three or four years to be U.S. senator. It's never happened before. That's what got people's attention on a national basis and obviously locally. The grassroots in the war room know what a the servant's heart is. What Ken Paxton has. Tell me about John Cornyn, because John Cornyn has just told you he's going to go out ugly. There's a new poll out that buries John Cornyn, but I wanted to have him in all his glory again with Accountability Day. You know, Judgment Day isn't coming. I believe in accountability. You're going to be held accountable, Cornyn. You're going to be humiliated. On Tuesday, La Civita, your entire team are going to be humiliated. Spending $150 million to destroy the grassroots effort in Texas. Let's understand what happened here. N Ken Paxton, Caroline Wren, thoughts and observations.

[Caroline Wren]

Yes. I mean, President Trump is obsessed with passing the Save America act because he ran on it. He ran on securing our elections and not allowing illegals to vote and closing our border. We were able to close the border. But the rest major part of his agenda is in the same America act which the Senate is refusing to pass. And so he's gonna keep hammering on this. He won the popular vote running on this. He won't.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Stop, stop. Slow down, slow down, slow down. I want to make sure people understand that it's not that they refuse to pass it. They're not working on it. We covered the whole thing with Mike Lee, the Brave, Mike Lee, Eric Schmidt. That was all performed. They tried their best. Nobody in the Senate backed them up. That was all performative for two weeks. It's not. The Senate's not passing it. Caroline Cornyn and these guys refuse to work on it. And they just put it up in President Trump's grill. We're just going to go home and go on another holiday and maybe take a codell because we're too busy. We're so far from passing that. And the President Trump is. Some free advice from the war room. I love the tweet. I love the truth social. I love It. But, hey, that process starts with removing John Thune. Your grassroots base, the MAGA base, is turfing out John Cornyn on Tuesday. If you now take that and turf out John Thune now, there's no other way. Caroline, help me out here. Is there any other way than the removal of the leader of the United States Senate, ma'? Am?

[Caroline Wren]

No, because the only way to pass the Save America act is to nuke the filibuster, because you're never gonna get 60 votes, because the Democrats cannot vote yes. For this, even though they know it's common sense. But they will never win an election again if the same America act passes. So you're not gonna get any Democrats to vote for it. And then, look, the Democrats that are refusing or the Republicans refusing to pass this are the ones that are on their way out. Look at Senator McConnell, Senator Cassidy, Senator Tillis. And now, you know what this is amazing about? What? Cornyn is showing his true colors. This is what we were talking about for the last six weeks on this show as to why Cornyn could not have another six years is because it is dangerous to have these senators that we know hate the Trump agenda, hate maga, to be in the Senate without having to knowing they're not going to run for reelection again. Because Cornyn, there was no way he was going to run for another term after this. He is too old. So right now, he is proving to us exactly what he told we were warning you guys about. We need new blood and people that actually support Trump's agenda. And because these guys on their way out, they love to love to just obstruct what this country wants and what President Trump wants, and they want the Save America act passed. They want free and fair elections, and they do not want illegal aliens who voting in their elections. It is that simple. And you have to nuke the filibuster. And John Thune is unwilling to do it. And it, you know, we would have to have 51 votes. But right there, you've got McConnell, Tillis. Now, I'm sure Corden said he would do it. Now he's definitely not going to. And so this is the box that we're in. But I hope President Trump, he shouldn't cave on any of this, and he should keep pushing them on it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

When you came up with this structure and Ken Paxton hit the bid right away and really took ownership of it and embraced it. Cornyn, here's the thing. Cornyn didn't really lift a finger. He actually had a path to remain in the Senate But, Caroline, you know how they work. They were never going to pass that. Why are they not going to pass it? Because it empowers the grassroots in this country. And remember, they're all about. They are. The Senate is the institution in which the ruling class of this country controls the, it's the legislative branch that the, that the, the biggest donors control. That's why Cornyn had a path to save himself. Let's put that poll up again. He's going to be humiliated. On Tuesday, he talks about Judgment Day. Judgment Day is coming, bro. Accountability's coming. Once you, you gave him a path to victory and he didn't take it. Why? Because he thought he could just. He thought like they always do. He just bluff his way through here. Caroline Wren.

[Caroline Wren]

Yeah, President. I mean, Ken Paxton, a few days ago, a poll came out, he was up 11 points. He was already going to win this. And then Donald Trump rightfully did come out for him. But now these senators lashing out against Trump, it's like, okay, he was. Even if Trump hadn't endorsed, Paxton was still going to win because the Texas voters knew how bad courting was. But now it looks like Paxton could end up winning by 20, potentially 30 points on Tuesday. And that is just gonna be a resounding defeat of a four term incumbent U.S. senator that spent $125 million to Ken Paxton's maybe 10, 12 million. And so this will send shockwaves around D.C. the political culture, and I'm very excited about it. But my favorite framing that's coming up is cornyn. And the D.C. establishment keeps saying, Ken Paxton, he's morally challenged because he allegedly had a brief affair while he was separated from his wife. Meanwhile, the Democrats have a Senate candidate in Graham Platner. Ken Paxton's gonna be running, and Graham Platler, they're gonna be screaming about Ken Paxton maybe having this alleged affair. While Graham Platner has a Nazi tattoo. He said he likes to masturbate in porta Potties. And yesterday, my new favorite Graham Platner post was that he posted that active duty military Reddit thread. He said that soldiers should spend their leave banging hookers in Thailand instead of getting slapped by their wives back home. Direct quote from Glenn Pattner. So explain to me the people that are gonna be yelling about Ken Paxton's immorality while defending Graham platner being a U.S. senator. Graham is, of course, running against Susan Collins in Maine, but the framing is going to be amazing.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But hang on, Platner's up six. Platner's going to win. It's going to win going away. Why Susan Collins voted to remove Trump from office in the United States Senate.

[Caroline Wren]

Maga understands that Susan is in a D +12 state. We should let her do whatever the heck she needs to do. She was there for us when we needed her vote on Kavanaugh and others. You are not going to convince me on this. And by the way, every public poll in 2020.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I don't need to, I don't need to convince you. I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just saying what the facts are. You can just tell the grassroots in this country are not motivated by any of these candidates. The only candidates got is, is, is Rogers in Michigan because they're going to nominate a, nominate a, a radical Muslim right now. That's what the Senate's got to pass, the Save America Act. I haven't seen, I haven't seen Collins. You just mentioned Collins. The one of the no votes. You can't have it both ways. She's not going to get any support.

[Caroline Wren]

She's against every no vote that she takes. She, we have to give her the space to do it. If you're in the grassroots in Maine, do not listen to Steve. Go vote for Susan Collins. I want, I'm not, by the way.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I have never, I've never, I've never told any, I've never told anybody not to vote for her. I'm just saying what the feedback up there is. The reason is such little enthusiasm. She voted to, she voted to remove President Trump from office, full stop. She and Murkowski are the last two. That's just a fact. She's one of the biggest nos on Save America. You can't have it both ways. Anyway, short break. We're gonna go to South Carolina. Caroline Wren leading the charge. Little fire in the war room on a Friday morning to kick off the Memorial Day weekend. Birchgold.com make sure you go. We're going to have, by the way, the second hour of the show. We're going to be in the East Room for the swearing in of the chairman of the Federal Reserve. Coming into a buzzsaw right now. President Trump wants a rate cut, of course. 10 year treasury up. Bowling's going to be with us. Jim Rickards is also going to join us. Go through all of it. Take your phone and Text Bannon at 989-898. The Ultimate Guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. The American health care system is broken. And for most Americans, nothing changes. There's still delays, denials, high cost insurance, roadblocks. So when I find people doing things differently, I talk about it all. Family pharmacy is not your typical big chain pharmacy. This is an independent family owned pharmacy that gives you access to over 400 medications delivered straight to your door. They've got ivermectin, antibiotics, antivirals, NAD plus even your daily maintenance medications and so much more. If you already have a prescription, your doctor can send it directly. If you don't, their doctors handle it. As long as there is a medical necessity, they'll take care of you. And I'll tell you this, the feedback from people listening to this show and watching has been incredibly strong. People are using it, it's working for them and they're sticking with it. That's because it cuts out the delays, the middlemen and all the usual nonsense. This is about being ready before you need it. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com that's all one word, allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use code Bannon10 to save 10%. The healthcare system is broken. Your pharmacy doesn't have to be. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. We're bringing in now Caroline Wright and Senator Collins campaign. I'm just kidding. The indefatigable Caroline Run. We're going to get to South Carolina in a minute, Caroline. Joe Allen's going to join me on the EO of the executive order on artificial intelligence. Bolling and Rickards are going to be here. Talk about the economy, particularly interest rates tied to the war. They've come back to us with a response. President Trump's not going to be happy, but progress is. They're trying to grind through. And we're going to go to the East Room for the swearing end of the chairman of the Federal Reserve. Carolyn, let's go back to the Save America act because that's what the grassroots are spoken on, because they understand how important it is. Also correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't because because of the restrictions on illegals being counted and voting that it actually puts Nevada and New Mexico really in play so we can pick up two new states. What is your, when you talk to the president, what is your logic here of how we're actually going to get this done? How are we actually going to get passed?

[Caroline Wren]

If illegals truly can't vote and you rein in mail in ballots, then I'm not sure what state the Democrats could win. Like maybe you could still win Oregon, Washington state. I'm not Even sure they could win California if you really clean up our elections. That is why the Save America act is so lethal and why it has to get done. But there's no way to get it done without getting rid of the filibuster. And I think we should talk about the filibuster for a minute. The filibuster is not something that was in our Constitution, that there was nothing in the Constitution about having to have 60 votes in the Senate to pass a bill. This was something that was added in later. And the biggest benefit of the filibuster and the 60 vote threshold is K Street, the lobbyists and the corporations because it forces the senators to have to horse trade with each other and horse trade across the aisle. It is those lobbyists that do the wheeling and dealing and trading on different votes. Fine, I'll cross over and vote for this for you, but I want my funding for X. The lobbyists are the ones who facilitate all that. Not to mention, if you only have to have a simple majority to pass a bill, then it is very dangerous for major corporations, major insurance corporations, major pharmaceutical companies. It will be way easier to target them and say, hey, you are no longer going to take advantage of the American people. We have 51 votes to shut down the activity that you're doing and you can keep plug and play with different industries on this. And it was the corporations and lobbyists that put in this 60 vote threshold and that have stopped us from are the ones who are the most opposed to lifting the filibuster. Now those are the same corporations that find, you know, the Senate Leadership Fund on the Republican side also on the Democrat side. Now, the Democrats just had such a revolt against the filibuster last term that they had enough speak out that it's gone for them. Like they, they, they have said when they come back and I'm sure, I'm quite certain almost every single Democrat senator on record has said the filibuster's gone when we take over the Senate again and we're going to pass at a 51 major majority. So it's now the Republicans who are refusing to and they're acting like Trump is asking them to do this impossible thing. No, President Trump is asking you to do what the entire Democrat caucus has already publicly said they're going to do, which is pass bills at a 51 vote threshold.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Isn't Thune sending people home is going to be about leadership? I mean, there's been a revolt. They have treated President Trump like, like a lame duck. The Senate has not been in recess formally one day while President Trump's been present in his first term or his second term. Now they treat him on every aspect, every part of the Trump agenda that doesn't totally fall into what their donors want, they block. So we're in it. We're in a conundrum right now. They don't have 60, they don't have 51. Right. So what then are we to do? Caroline Wren?

[Caroline Wren]

We need to win these Senate races and then we will certainly have 51. Think about it. I mean, Andy Barr is going to replace Mitch McConnell. Boom, there you go. That was one of the no votes. Thom Tillis is gone. We've got to get Michael Watley and boom, there's a replacement to that. Bill Cassidy's gone. Julia Letlow has said she will nuke the filibuster. There you go. That's the pathway. We have to lean in so hard to win these Senate seats to remain in the majority and then replace the ones that are against this, which were, you know, corny now says that he, he would vote to say, yes, I'm okay with nuking the filibuster, but please, Kim Paxton will be an actual leader on this. And if we make this a referendum on the election, which it is, this is what President Trump leaning in on these primaries and defeating these people overwhelmingly, that is the referendum on nuking the filibuster. So I think it can happen as soon as we, if we can just retain this majority after November, then I think the filibuster could be gone and

[Stephen K. Bannon]

we win these seats. And you believe by winning these seats that convinces Thune we, we are supplicants to John Thune, that the grassroots movement, the MAGA movement and President Trump go as a supplicant to John Thune and say, pretty please, we delivered all this for you, that you worked against us, particularly against Cornyn and all these other situation Cassidy, all these other situations. But we delivered for you and continued your brand leadership. Will you pretty please pass the Save America Act? Is that the plan? If that's a plan, okay, I'm down for it. Let's look. That sounds like an it's lease President Trump loves optionality. That's an option. But is that the option you're saying right now in May of 2026, our best option is to wait till 5January of 2027 when we've swept the Senate and we, we hold still a couple of seat majority and we deal with John Thune as leader.

[Caroline Wren]

I'm not saying it's the best option. I'm saying it's the only option. There are not the votes to lift the filibuster right now. And so we can blame Thune or not, but, like, the no votes are quite obvious. And they are Thom Tillis and they are Bill Cassidy and they're Mitch McConnell and they are Lisa Murkowski and then, yes, Susan Collins. We already fought about that. And so those are the no votes. Whether or not it doesn't matter if our majority leader is Barrasso or Mike Lee or Rand Paul or there's not. We don't have the votes. That is, you know, so that I don't want to rail too much on Thune. Promise. Thune, maybe we don't exactly know. He hasn't told us what he thinks. He is just saying these are the no votes. So my point is that we need to. Three of those people are already definitely going to be gone and we're going to have Republican replacements. And then we need to hold some of these other seats, that is Susan Collins. And then I do think that in January we can. And that you have two years then to really ram through Trump's agenda.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, good. Let's go to South Carolina quickly. Your bomber command, obviously, it's a very sophisticated crowd in this South Carolina Senate. Right. They know how to roll and they don't like a lot of. I take it they don't like a lot of outside recommendations of how they should, how they should react to things. Ma'.

[Eric Bolling]

Am.

[Caroline Wren]

Well, the posse has been very successful in putting pressure on them. So we are moving forward right now. I mean, it was dead on arrival a couple weeks ago. And so right now, there's going to be a major procedural vote that takes place around midday today that will be to suspend the rules of the state Senate debate around the redistricting bill. And, and it's a major kind of test vote for passage. And this will tell all the other senators, like, how hard to fight for this or not. And if it passes, then we're off to the races. We need 31 votes for passage. I think we have about 38 Republicans. We do not. I'm not sure if we have those 31 votes. That's what we're going to see in this test vote. You know, they, some of them feel invincible because they're not up for another two years. I made the point. I was speaking to some state senators yesterday and said, look, Bill Cassidy voted to impeach the president five and a half years ago, and the voters did not Forget. And Donald Trump did not forget. So just that you're up in two years, you're doomed. So if it does fail or that vote does fail today, though, we're not dead. It just means that we still have to see it through the entire timeline. And we're up against this timeline of early voting starting next week. And so right now, you know, there are different procedural plays. I can tell you the White House is all over this. The governor is all over this. Lieutenant Governor Pam Evan is all over it. So I still have hope, but there's. It's not a done deal.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Last but not least, and by the way, people are all over this. We'll keep everybody informed on this throughout the day. And we'll give you Caroline's Twitter feed, which we'll go to. Last thing, there's been a lot of noise on the Internet about Alabama that is still possibly go 7 because in South Carolina, we're talking about getting rid of Clyburns, his district and going 70 there. There's a possibility in Alabama, I take it, at least what I'm seeing analysis up on up on the Internet that is still possible in Alabama. Do you buy that?

[Caroline Wren]

No. The speaker of the House in Alabama said absolutely not. And then the governor is 81 years old and I don't think has any appetite. It was hard enough to get her to do the first special session. So I believe it's Morgan Murphy put that up, who is an absolute rock star. He's one of the people who really forced this to happen to even get that one seat. But that was even such an uphill battle that I just, I don't want to send the posse down roads that are going to be impossible down that road already.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And, you know, we don't want to shake. We don't want to chase rabbits. That's why you do that. You do the hard lifting first. And let us know what's going on. Caroline Wren today on your Twitter feed. You want to keep us up to date on all of this? Where do people go?

[Caroline Wren]

Ma', am, it's at Caroline ran on X True social getter.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Caroline, thank you. Thank you for everything you're doing and thank you for coming on this morning. Appreciate you.

[Caroline Wren]

It was fun to be the Susan Collins spokesman today.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's Caroline Wren. You're a fighter, you're practical. Gotta hold the Senate. I'm all for holding the Senate. I'm just saying they got to do something to fire people up. That main race is going to be and Susan Collins used to be A neighbor, she was right in the neighborhood with the, with the Warren posse looked on the building of the worm every day. Joe Allen last, in a dramatic fashion, the executive order got pulled and now we know it got pulled because the former czar David Sachs either contacted Zuckerberg and Musk, they talked beforehand or afterwards, we don't know. But with all the work the White House staff did and as you know, we didn't love it. But at least it's starting a process. It gets pulled. We got about a minute here. What's your assessment?

[Joe Allen]

Well, it appears that I was correct as we were speaking about it yesterday. The President was influenced by those who have the biggest vested interest in making sure these guys never really have any government oversight, that they're self regulated.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But he said, you know, the staff worked very hard on this. This is a very well thought through. We didn't love it. We liked it. We thought there were some big issues about voluntary being a voluntary system versus mandatory 12 days to review it versus three months having the intelligence service, particularly NSA involved here. The biggest thing, and this is what Axios picked up as I call the buried lead. Scott Bessant having an active role in this. Scott Bessant is unimpressed with the oligarchs. He doesn't think they're particularly mature. He doesn't think they really put the interest of the country first. He understands their.

[Joe Allen]

And he's willing to fight for it. Perhaps literally.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Exactly. He's already thrown down with Elon once and got. And what was that over? That was over. That was over. I think it was. I don't want to jump that about, oh, irs. It was about irs. It was about irs. It all reports to Scott now. And it was about. Elon wanted his guy there like Elon wanted his guy in, you know, to get his IPO done. He had to have the guy Isaacman come back for NASA, give more contracts, give him more no bid contracts. So they didn't want, they did not want Scott Bessant. They did not want an adult to have anything to do with this. That's where they went into panic mode. And Sachs worked on every turn of this. So at the last second, trust me, they had one of those senior guys read it and said hey, pull this thing because you're setting up a process. A short commercial break the dollars convertibility into gold ended in 1971. Gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Well, fast forward to today and the US dollar has lost over 85% of its purchasing power. Gold on the other hand is increased in value by over 12,000%. That's why Central banks are buying gold at record levels. That's why major firms like Vanguard and BlackRock hold significant positions in gold. And that's why I encourage you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold Group. But it starts with education. Birch Gold just announced their Learn and Earn Precious Metals event. This free online event rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get a free silver on your next purchase. Get even larger incentives as you go. The more you learn, the more you can earn. But you must act now, as this special event only runs through April 30th. The dollar lost its anchor in 1971. You don't have to lose yours. Text my name, Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 to join Birchgold's Learn and Earn Precious Metals event by April 30th. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and do it today.

[Eric Bolling]

War Room.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Ebola. We're talking about our staff here, the AI. We're going to have a cut about these graduations, the executive order. Here's the thing about the executive order, folks. Take a deep breath. Trust the process. This is the first time this was not on children's safeguards and all this others, which is all being worked on by other people. And I realize every day we don't have an executive order, some sort of regulatory apparatus is a day that the oligarchs are winning. I got that part. But the staff of the White House put their shoulder to the wheel. And through many iterations, we had something. It wasn't perfect. It was voluntary versus mandatory. It was 12 days versus three months. It didn't have some other action. But NSA was involved. The intelligence community was involved. Scott Besant was involved. Right. Because of the financial jeopardy of our financial institutions about the AI and cyber combo. And it set a structure for the first time. It set a structure and it had a process. We could make those processes tighter and tougher over time. They understood these are not dumb people. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and David Saxyan understood what they were doing and that's why they ran. The president said, please just tear it up. We don't want anything. We're totally accelerationist now. They totally lie to him every day about China at the China situation. We need to deal with China and the ecosystem. We have allowed these entrepreneurs to build around China and make money. Your thoughts about that?

[Joe Allen]

Yeah, China, the China argument is absurd to me for a number of reasons. The biggest being what is it exactly that we're competing to be against China? I can understand from a military perspective, if the military use of AI is directed outward and not towards surveilling American citizens or, or God forbid, eliminating American citizens, then that makes sense. But the entire push of the AI industry is not towards national security. The push is to flood the culture with as many bots as they possibly can. You can see already that AI slop now accounts for over half of the content being produced online. You can see from academia to corporate life, and even I hear in government agencies the process of people becoming over reliant on the AIs, they lose their own agency, they lose their own cognitive abilities. And pretty much this cyborgization of society seems to be the goal of these companies. People, human beings become vessels for their algorithms. If that is what we're competing against China for, well, I guess we're succeeding. But the real question is long term. If Americans become these atrophied cyborgs without even the benefit of the superpowers that Elon Musk is promising, then I'm not really sure how it is that long term America remains competitive against China or any other country, unless they all go full on ant farm too. So yeah, the China argument doesn't make sense on that front. What are we actually trying to become by competing against China? And it also doesn't make sense given that most or all of these guys that are pushing for this competition against China are also doing everything possible to bolster China. This is the key point and make sure that China remains competitive.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me say this as a construct. We cannot allow the Chinese Communist Party. No. Jensen Wong, who's an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, is quite evident when he said, hey, it doesn't really matter if China takes the lead here. It doesn't really matter if a Chinese company takes the lead. That shows you the psychological warfare. We clearly have to be dominant in artificial intelligence. The way the step one is to literally shut down any aspect of the Chinese. If you go back to the analogy of nuclear weapons, you know, the Russians got the atomic bomb, they got the hydrogen bomb, but they had to have people on the inside stealing those secrets, as the Chinese have right now. But there wasn't an open cooperation of American industry and the American military working with an existential threat at the time.

[Joe Allen]

They executed the Rosenbergs over it big time, Big time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

For the hydrogen bomb. And they made life miserable. If you saw the movie Oppenheimer, they made life miserable for people they even suspected. Let's say Oppenheimer is probably a little more than suspected. Right. So they dropped the hammer. We have to do the same thing. That's what I keep saying. As imperfect as it is, we don't need an fda. We need something like the Atomic Energy Commission was in the management of nuclear weapons. Where do we go from here? Right now it's polled. And every day you don't have anything is the day they're winning. That's why they're trying to slow walk Blackburn's legislation in the Senate. They're trying to, you know, they're trying to chop block anything that's going on. People are still grinding, right? There's going to be, over the weekend, we're going to get together with everybody to sign the letter to kind of regroup. What are your thoughts? You're one of the, you're one of the intellectual leaders of this movement. What are your thoughts? Does that show you the desperate shape we're in?

[Joe Allen]

What I see going forward, Steve, as we've discussed so many times, they've got the money, we've got the people. The people across the board is bipartisan. It's not just Republicans and it's not just us stimulating it organically. The American population is. They want to see the power of these companies reduced. They want to see some degree of oversight, just at least up to the level of automobiles, airplanes, sandwiches, these sorts of things, medicines, these sorts of things. So the people want something done. And I think that, yeah, the eo, it's a step in the right direction, but it's a very, very, very small step because it addresses cybersecurity and that's really important. And it addresses cybersecurity primarily on behalf of financial institutions. But you have to have, I think going forward, this will be one step. You will have to have child safety, you will have to have everything else. This is to do with the kind

[Stephen K. Bannon]

of psychosis emergency we've been talking about about these. Hang on for a second. I need to keep you around. We got CNN polling, all of that. You just stick right here. Jo Allen is going to stick with us. We're going to get much more into this. We got to go to the White House for the, for the swearing in ceremony for the Federal Reserve chair. I've got two of our brightest bolling. First off, you and Jim Rickards before we get to the Fed chair and the Buzzsaw that Warshire's walking into talking about overnight, where do we stand? Where do we stand with markets, the deal? Because you see, and I think Zero Hedge had a great outline of the 10 points that are being discussed between the Arabs and the Persians right now. And people are saying, hey, behind the scenes that we're working towards something. I'm not so sure President Trump's going to be that thrilled with what he's seeing in those points. And particularly they go out of their way to say there's no comment at all on the nuclear weapons situation. In fact, they're saying that they're going to keep the ayatollah, saying they're going to keep the pixie dust. Your thoughts are where we stand with the war and the deal.

[Eric Bolling]

So interesting three day weekend coming up. Also, timing is important. Oil market has been all over the board this morning. Up $2, down $2 back to up 2 bucks. Because everyone's trying to figure out what's going to happen. I'm sorry, Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, May 25th is the beginning of the Hajj, the high Muslim holiday, the trek to Mecca. The question is, do you kinetically attack a Muslim country during that period? Maybe 25 to 30? I would suggest probably not. Because, Steve, a long time ago, cpac, I was filling, you were, you were talking on the big stage in cpac. I was co hosting the war room with Maureen and I suggested the Iranian 91 million people, Iranian people step up and start to push back against the irgc. I got eviscerated by the crowd. And your audience saying, oh, you can't tell them to walk into death. I said, well, if they truly want change, that's the only thing that's going to make change. It's not going to be bombs, it's not going to be sinking their ships or bombs falling on their land. And so if that doesn't happen, so you can't attack a Muslim country during the Hajj, you would have to wait till after. Which means the oil industry is looking at higher oil prices for another five, six days, which also tax another probably week or so or two onto the backside when oil does come down. Trump has been saying oil will come down. He's right. He's also been saying gas will come down. I'm not going to say he's not right. I'm going to say he's being overly optimistic because it's not coming down for months. Interest rates have elevated greatly since Trump left Beijing, Xi Jinping without a deal on the blockade. We're seeing the 30 year, all important 30 year, 605, which is very high and the 10 year, which you have pointed out several times, that's where most people are paying on their credit cards. 4.6 still above that. All important 4.5. You want that below 4, you like it near 4. It's at 4. Six of the indicators are going to tell me that Wash and some of the things he said on Wash on CNBC leading up to his confirmation was that he, he believes the Fed is the only thing that can tame inflation. Not outside forces, not supply, not demand, the Fed monetary policy. So I don't know how he can do anything but hold. He's probably going to hold for the foreseeable future. I mean, there's, there's no chance he can cut rates. And that's what Trump wanted. He wanted a rate cut out of Powell. But here's the good news is if it were Powell, we would have seen several rate cuts going forward. If it were still Powell. So we're saving a little bit, but not to the point you would see

[Stephen K. Bannon]

rate hold it, you'd see rate increase. You wouldn't see rate cuts under Powell going forward.

[Eric Bolling]

I said, yeah, we would see several rate increases. I say cut several rate increases on the Powell going forward with cuts.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But you're, you're, you're saying you don't think Wash raises rates.

[Eric Bolling]

I think he's going to, yeah, I think he's going to make a case for holding, you know, especially saying inflation will tame when energy prices come down and energy prices will come down as soon as there's some sort of deal coming out of the Middle East.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, you've seen that, you've seen the proposal, you've seen what they're working on, those 10 elements to it. President Trump's not going to be happy with half of it. He's not going to accept half of them. Them. He's not going to be happy with the rest. I don't think he's going to be happy with any of these. Right. And they're still talking, they're sneaking around about Hormuz, about are they going to charge fees or not or, you know, is it going to be free navigation. But they don't include at all any discussion of the, of the nuclear weapons and the ayatollahs.

[Eric Bolling]

Now, they said

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Reuters had the exclusive, the ayatollah saying, hey, we're going to keep the, we're going to keep everything related to that. That's why I think the market got hit yesterday. Right.

[Eric Bolling]

But but, but the White House pushed back on that Reuters report. If you remember, that Reuters report was exclusive. It rocked the market. Market ran up. And then the minute the White House said, no, that's not an accurate report, everything started. The point is there's rhetoric going back and forth. The guys I talked to, the biggest traders in the world, wait to see what's happening. And so far in the last 24 hours in the Strait, there have been two vessels that transited the strait. So boots on the ground or vessels in the water, so to speak, are telling you higher, and Trump is going to tell you lower. The question is, how are you going to get it lower? And Steve, for a long time, you know, it's first I said, let's get out of here, cut a deal and get out. In the first two or three weeks that ship has passed. Now, the deal for me would be stay with this blockade, even hit them in these power plants, in their roads, in their highways, make the Iranian people rise up against it. I truly believe at this point, in order to get any sort of movement, regime change, movement, if that's what the goal is. Remember, it wasn't always the goal, but if that's the goal, it's going to have to come from pressure, obviously pressure outside from us, but pressure inside from the people. And right now they seem to be quiet.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I don't think the president, I don't think the president, I don't think regime change. The only place regime change is on the table is in Tel Aviv. And I think they've even given up on that. I don't see regime change. Regime change.

[Eric Bolling]

So let me ask you that. What is President Trump negotiate?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hold on.

[Eric Bolling]

They're negotiating with the regime change, Steve. We've, we've obliterated their nuclear capacity. We heard about that in the 12 Day War last year. We've, you know, we have no interest in the Strait of Hormuz other than helping Europe, Asia and India at this point.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I got you, but I'm just saying, technically, regime change wouldn't have been the 10, the, the, the folks that sent that 10 points. They think they're winning. That's something you send somebody when you think that, that they're, they're, they're winning. That's why this has got to be, you know, President Trump, Great Satan.

[Eric Bolling]

Any day you fight back the Great Satan and survive is a win for them. It's perceived as a, as a fanatical win for them. There's, they're, they're martyrs. They, this is in their DNA. So of course they think they're winning but when the people can't get water or the people can't get from here to you know, the next town over or they can't get out on an air airplane because we, we hit their airports as well. Airports, roads. Final thought would be the desalization plans.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That neocon. That neocon. That neocon. You don't have to scratch too far the surface of that neocon to come up more. Go bombing again. Hang on one second. You stay right there because I know you got a bounce. I'm gonna take a short commercial break. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon not promo code mo. I'm sorry. Slash Bannon into the dollar empire. Rickert's not going to talk about this. The pressure on the US dollar. Boeing, stick around. I know you get a bounce. I just want to ask you about war one more time. Forget Rickert's on here. Short break. This year marks a critical moment for our country. As the opposition grows more aggressive and more unapologetic. The fight now reaches into the everyday decisions we make. Patriot Mobile has standing, has been standing on the front lines fighting for freedom for more than 12 years. They just don't deliver top tier wireless service. They are activists like me and like you in the war room posse who truly care about this republic and saving our country. Patriot Mobile office prioritized premium access on all three major US networks giving you the same or better coverage than the main carriers themselves. That means fast speeds and dependable nationwide coverage backed by 100% US based customer service. They also offer unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming and more. With a simple seamless activation you can switch in minutes, keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. And here's the difference. When you switch to Patriot Mobile you'll be part of a powerful stream of giving that directly funds the Christian conservative movement. Take a stand today. Go to patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972-patriot that's 972-patriot and use promo code Bannon for a free month of service. Don't wait, do it today. That's patriotmobile.com/bannon or call 972 Patriot and join the team today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann, Eric Bolling, Lisa Abitz over at Bloomberg's got a tweet up and we'll get it up on Denver and I'll make sure you and Rickard see it. She goes back all the way to Arthur Burns in 1970 puts the start the ten year treasure in the day they took took office the Federal reserve chair burns 7.7% William Miller 8% Volcker 8.9% Greenspan 8.7%. Then in Bernanke it starts coming down all the way to 4.5%. What Warsh is doing, what is your before we see by the way, I think it's been pushed back to 11:15. This is one of the biggest appointments in President Trump because this guy's gonna be with us for what, eight years. This is one of the biggest, most important appointments outside the Supreme Court that the President will do. Your thoughts on this day, sir, about Kevin Warsh, where we are in the bond market, where we are as a highly leveraged $300 trillion worldwide. Looking for a margin call, sir?

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, we're on a perpetual margin call, so to speak because our approaching $30 trillion in debt, we have to finance that and we use those folks. So that's why interest rates are so important certainly to the the household because individual interest rates go up to 10 year tied to your credit card, 30 year tied to your mortgage. But it's also the rates that we're having to pay other countries to finance our overspending. So super important. Even a tenth of a percentage point is massive in dollar amounts, raw figures. Warsh I believe is a great appointment, is a great appointment because he sees the future. He understands that monetary policy can move and will move is the real only movement input to interest rates. But it also tells me his hands are going to be tied to a certain extent. Trump brought him in because Trump thought Jerome Powell should have lowered interest rates leading up prior to the war. The war conflict changed the game completely. But prior to it and Jerome Powell should have. He was very reluctant. A quarter point here, none quarter point. He could have been more aggressive and that's more wind to the sales of the economy. Problem is now with the war, with energy prices higher and inflation higher month over month, tripling the PPI last month, his hands are tied to lowering. The good news is if it were Jerome Powell, Powell would be raised, raised, raised because he's a political animal. Right. So Powell is going to still be on the Fed. He just won't be chairman anymore. Anymore. He'll be pushing for higher rates and I think Wash will fight and push back against Powell and against Waller and some of the other Fed, let's call them folks that want to get in front of the inflation because they got burned by not doing it with Biden. Biden's was fully. It wasn't just energy With Biden, Biden was inflation of everything, everything. Costs more. Regulation cost businesses more. Manufacturing cost businesses more. This is purely an energy play for Trump and they know Trump can get it down and Warsh knows he can get energy prices down going forward. So he will be a little less likely to slam the brakes, so to speak, by raising rates. I think we're frozen through.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, but the theory, the case when President Trump came in with Besson, I mean, Bessen had a plan. The plan was to get, you had the opportunity to get one more supply side tax cut. That would be it. That was a big beautiful bill with your tariffs and your tax cuts focused on capital expenditure. You had an opportunity to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States and you were going to grow your way out of it. That's very tough to do, but you're going to grow your way out of it. That has all kind of been jammed up by this Iran war. And not just the Iran war, but also the highly leveraged because the business model of the country right now, people should understand this. We're a highly leveraged bet on AI having productivity, massive productivity, earth shattering productivity increases. When I say productivity increases, you should assume that means massive job cuts, no career opportunities for young people coming out of STEM colleges or with stem, very limited opportunities for them and virtually no opportunities for the poor schmendricks that are 40 years to 55, 60 years old, that are STEM workers going to get rid of them first? That's where we are now. That's the bet. It'd be quite difficult, I think, to kick back and go to the growth strategy. Maybe I just don't see it. So you're between a rock and a hard place right now, sir. Even with settling this war and going back to full spectrum Energy dominance or trying to get back to full spectrum Energy John dominance. You've got this guy's coming in today with a long hot summer in front of us and big headwinds on this economy. Am I correct on that assumption?

[Eric Bolling]

100%. Big headwinds on the economy because big headwinds with inflation. It's going to continue to rise again even if all clear is sounded tomorrow. And you're right, Steve, the leverage bet. We're wildly leveraged. But guess what? Money isn't. Philanthropic money doesn't care about your politics. Money just seeks to grow money. That's, that's the nature of the beast. So yes, AI, we're leveraging and we're leveraging into what I believe will be the second industrial revolution in The AI world, will it change? Of course it's going to change what our employment structure. So the Trump idea, I believe in the horseshoe and the best idea was to bring back manufacturing here, which was amazing. It did amazing things for us. And the 1920s, the Industrial Revolution put us on the map, catapulted us to the top. However, AI will do the same with intellectual property, which will be the most valuable commodity.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But here's what I'm gonna do. I'm now officially. Now I'm officially start working on the Eric Bolling bot that can be on the four o' clock show and lead into us. I think we need to do the Eric Bowling bot as part of the.

[Eric Bolling]

It's gonna happen

[Stephen K. Bannon]

that you can't be replicated. It's impossible to replicate bowling.

[Eric Bolling]

You do over the top, Eric.

[Joe Allen]

I bet people go, I'll see you

[Stephen K. Bannon]

back here at 4. Where do people go? It won't be a bot. It'll be actual Eric Bowling. Right? Where do people go to keep track of you, sir?

[Eric Bolling]

We will always have a Stephen K. Bannon at Eric Bowling. E, B, O, L, L, I G across all platforms. Four and a half million strong. Loving the war room, loving Steve Bannon and our little. Sometimes we, we box a little bit and then sometimes Steve throws it throws a haymaker right as the bell's about to ring and calls me in the. Oh,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

you got. You got to learn to punch like Ren did, man. I said, Sarah, Colin say she voted to remove Trump. And she hates to say reg. Hey, I don't care. She's going to be in there. You got to say, okay, she's a fighter.

[Eric Bolling]

Didn't know.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Didn't know you were an advisor. She's great and so are you. See back here at 4. Let you. We'll let you go to work now.

[Eric Bolling]

Indeed.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Eric Bolling. Thank you, brother. We got one of the wise men joins us. A gray beard, an original gangster. Jim Rickards from Strategic Intelligence. He's going to join us. We're waiting for Kevin Warsh in the President United States, I guarantee you. Then the Oval Office. Catching up, having a cup of coffee or a Diet, a Diet Coke and talking about this very important swearing in ceremony from the East Room of the White House. Still got an East Room, right? That's not the East Wing, that's the East Room. That's one of the reasons President Trump wants to make a ballroom. East Room is not big enough. Needs a bigger stage. Kevin Warsh today sworn in as chairman of the Federal Reserve. Next in the war room. If you're 65 or already on Medicare, listen up, folks, and grab a pen, maybe even a number two pencil. Call 845- War Room. That's 845- War Room. Call it right now. I'm serious. Call it now. Here's why. The insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. Rising premiums, denied claims, fine print. Nobody but a lobbyist understands. Millions of American seniors are paying too much and getting too little. And worst of all, most don't even know it. Hey, that could be you. That's why, if you're already on Medicare or will be soon, you need to talk to our friends at Chapter. They have a team of advisors trained to serve American seniors, not the insurance companies. In under 20 minutes, they can find you the best plan for your needs at the lowest cost. Why? They're a data company. They have all the data on every plan. It's totally free. There's no pressure, no bs. Just straightforward, honest help from fellow patriots. So don't wait. Call 845 war room right now. That's 845 war room. Tell them Bannon sent you. Now, listen, in the first couple of days of the launch of this company with the Warren Posse, Posse members saved tens and up to hundreds of thousands collectively of dollars in these fees. Go check it out today. That's chapter. Call 845-war- room. Do it today.