
Episode 5406: Forcing Senate To Finish The Trump Agenda ...
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Historic was Cordon's life. I feel like we're on the Tonight Show. How historic was it?
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How low do we go?
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It was historic to a degree that we have not seen since my mother was born. And I'm not going to give the exact age, but you'll be able to figure it out because just take a look here. Okay. The worst GOP senator primary loss by the margin, the worst ever for Republican senator. It now belongs to John Cornyn. His 28 point loss on Tuesday night was the worst, the worst since at Beast World War II for a Republican Senator. We have seen this over and over and over again. When a Republican goes up against Donald Trump or Donald Trump really goes up against them, it doesn't end too well for that Republican senator. We saw it just a few weeks ago though, with Bill Cassidy getting what, just 25% of vote, which was the lowest vote share total for any senator, incumbent senator. And now when looking at the margin again, breaking history, the 28 point loss for John Cornyn, the worst for a Republican senator since at least World War II. Cape Baldwin. That is how historic it was.
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That is, yeah, that's in, that fits into historic. So Cornyn, Cornyn is kind of, if you wouldn't say like a Bush era Texas Republican.
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How much has the party shifted from,
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from the Bush era, if you will, since Trump has come into the.
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Yeah, I mean, look, John Cornyn was first elected back in 2002. And I will just tell you that the George W. Bush era of the Republican Party is, simply put, it is dead. It is dead and this was the capstone to it. And Donald Trump's Republican Party is very much alive. He is the leader of the Republican Party. I just want you to look here. I mean, this just tells you everything that you need to know, which is the net favorable rating with the GOP of Donald Trump. You have George W. Bush before Donald Trump declared back in May of 2015. Look at this. George W. Bush's net favorable rating on was plus 58 points. Donald Trump was 45 points underwater with Republicans. Look at this, this isn't 100 over 100 point shift. I do believe Donald Trump is now at plus 61. That's over 100 point shift in the positive direction for Trump. And look at what happened to George W. Bush. He dropped by 40 points from plus 58 to plus 17. So George W. Bush has fallen through the floor since Donald Trump, of course, first really appeared on the political scene, first ran for president for the Republican nomination back, back in 2015, declaring in June of 2015, while George W. Bush, simply put, as I said, his Republican Party is the Republican voters are very lukewarm on him and Republican voters are still very hot to trot on Donald Trump. And you saw that in George W. Bush's home state of Texas on Tuesday night with John Cornyn, of course, a Bush era Republican going down to a historic defeat. The bottom line is that Donald Trump, it's his party across the political map in, even in George W. Bush's backyard.
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One thing you see in the numbers, one thing we heard from voters on, on that, on the actual day, on election day there was that they're going with Trump. Trump.
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Trump had accused Cornyn of not being
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loyal enough and they were going with
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Trump when they were going to be supporting Paxton. How like that begs a question of like how loyal do they do Republican voters want their electeds to be to President Trump?
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Yeah, I think when you see this over 100 point shift towards Donald Trump, I mean that's just crazy. But then you just ask the republic, what do they want? What do they want from their members of Congress? GOP voters want congressional GOP to do more to work with Trump. 80% 4 and 5, just 13% want them to do more to stand up to Trump. When 80% plus of the party is with you on any particular question, you know, you own the party. This is, as I said, Donald Trump's Republican Party and it's George W. Bush has simply put that Republican Party is dead. It's in the graveyard.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're, we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Thursday 28th May in the year of our Lord 2026. Of course, the lazy and let's just call it what it is, dumb mainstream media, particularly the folks that cover politics now, put the geopolitics in their national security and the economics, they always seem to draw the lessons that are just so easy. And they kick them around and they, you know, they become a meme, or they become what they want to be, what we call the conventional wisdom. Ken Paxton was winning by anywhere from eight to 12 points when President Trump came in, and the power of that was another. You know, he won by almost 30. So that's a huge, huge lift. But it was the grassroots effort, the leaders and all the folks that are part of these grassroots organizations. I cannot speak highly enough about them. And why do I do that? Why did I do that? Because you see a path to hold this together. You see a path to still save your country. And like I said, it's not perfect today. Scott Bessant, our former contributor here at the War Room, handled the press conference today. And of course, he was getting peppered nonstop about the deal. The Hill newspaper has now confirmed that there is a deal, but President Trump either hasn't approved it or hasn't signed it. This memorandum of understanding that really kind of extends the ceasefire and it kicks the can down the road, at least with the way Axios or the Hill are reporting it, I don't know. I see some very tough elements of that that just can't see President Trump agreeing to, number one, kind of one of the beginning things has to happen. You have to lift the blockade. To me, the blockade is the one. If you're not going to use kinetic activity again, and I just don't feel there's much enthusiasm for going Connecticut again unless you're forced into a corner, I would strongly recommend that probably lifting the blockade is maybe not the way to go, at least at the very first stages of this. So, anyway, we'll have to see. I'm sure President Trump's looking at this thing and going, hey, there's a couple, three things here I just can't agree to. And that gets back to some of the negative numbers around this, gets back to a sense when they say they change the Republican Party. We got to be brutally frank. There's not five, they're not five or six MAGA people in the House. They're not. They don't believe really in these trade policies. Most of them are not for mass deportations. They're not for the hemispheric defense in America. First, you got tons of neocons in there. Scratch them, and they're a neocon. In the Senate, you got what? You got Banks, you got Bernie Marino, you got Hawley, you got Schmidt. I don't know. It said Banks, you know, a couple, three more. Got four or five there. Got four or five. They only are with President Trump when they need an endorsement. Now, how do I know this? Look at the Senate. The Senate treats President Trump as a lame duck, full stop. There has not been one day they still go through this charade every time they're on recess. There's not been one day that the Senate's been officially in recess since Trump took his hand off the Bible on the 20th of January, 2017. What, six, five and a half years now? Not one day because they don't trust him. McConnell said, we're never going to do that because Trump could put some recess appointments in there. Big piece today or Big Thing on CNN about how we're lacking in ambassadors. We're behind again, once again on President Trump getting people in there, his own personnel, his own team. Now that we're a year and a half into this thing and five, what, five or six months away from the midterm elections, they treat him, the Senate treats him like a lame duck. There's no Save America act, there's no cooperation. They'll do the big beautiful bill when they get a tax cut for their donors. They're all in. You mentioned tax cut for the wealthy. Imagine tax cuts for corporations. They're 100%. They'll be doing heavy lifting. Anything else? I don't know. You know, don't know if we can get that. Look at the Save America Act. We were the only channel, the only network that covered every night, every single night. We covered the heroic Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt and a handful of others that every night went up there. Tommy Tuberville and Tuberville is part of that. And Mike Lee, most of the time is part of the, what I would say, the MAGA, the 7 or 5, 6, 7 or 8 in the Senate, we would go, you know, they go to midnight, go to 11 o' clock every night. But you could tell at the time, you know, Jenny Beth was on here, Jenny Beth Martin was on here, Cleta was on here. And I kept asking my thing, hey, doesn't this feel a little performative? The audience, I can tell the audience doesn't feel the juices running on this. They're not ready to go the ramparts, because this is not happening. So you have a way to save the Senate this afternoon. Dana Bash and cnn, all these different networks, they're all sitting there and they're repeating, just repeating, repeating, repeating what the scumbags, La Civita and these guys have put $150 million don't talk about crime. $150 million of not ads about policy or debates within the Republican Party or between MAGA and the establishment. No, it was to destroy. Destroy Ken Paxton. And by destroying Ken Paxton, destroy the grassroots movement. They just want grassroots movement to shut up, show up to vote, send us your money, and you're just going to have to live with what we come up with. We don't want to hear it. We're not interested in it. We're not interested in what you have to say. If they were interested in what you had to say, they would have embraced the grassroots movement long before this and said, okay, what you want mass deportations? You want America first foreign policy? Right. You want to secure the borders, everything. Absolutely opposed to Cornyn. Cornyn played the oldest game in the world to come back, you know, after what, 24, and really mock people to their face about. He's destroying his ad. Walking down with the big cowboy hat on. He got big cowboy hat and a couple other guys. Cowboy hats. That makes it official. Cowboy hat. He's walking past the border wall. This a guy that, with McConnell, fought the border wall intensely in 17, when we had that opportunity to get a budget that we could have things that President Trump wanted in there. After President Trump delivered the Senate to him, you had. You had McConnell in corny, and these guys fight it. They didn't want a border. And he would go on TV or go, you know, it's old technology. You can't do this on. Ken Paxton calls him Caliphate. You know, calls him Caliphate Cornyn, why he's been pro Gulf Emirates, pro Islam for everybody. Took an ad out as soon as he knew Prop 10 was up there and it had some traction. He and that team, they took an ad and said, you know, he's so anti shria, it's unbelievable. Then he put a bill in. He actually put a bill in with, you know, the anti Sharia Law Act. I mean, this is how stupid, stupid he thinks you are. There's a grassroots effort 100% because Ken Paxton had no money. He's not a great fundraiser because he's a grassroots guy. But as I said in the Hills newspaper, this is going to be very intense and it's going to be very tough. It's going to be very hard. But Ken Paxton could win by five points. And they said today on CNN, yes, it's going to cost $500 million because Karl Rove is up over there in Fox. Oh, yeah, it's going to cost 3,400 million dollars. It's going resources in front of. Screw you. All you did was go on Fox every day and trash talk Ken Paxton. Trash talked him. And you're wrong about everything. As you've been wrong since. You know, you're the operative for the Bush apparatus. Hopefully after beating Jeb's son and now crushing in a humiliation, particularly with 150 million they're talking about. Oh, there's going to be resources. Where's the 150? Why don't we use that in Talarico? Nobody in Texas knows Talarico. He's being defined right now. It's Alfred E. Talarico.
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What?
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Me vegan? This guy's not just. It's not just radical. He's a weirdo. Texas is not going to like that guy. It's not going to happen. The more you see him, the more you go, wow, what a weirdo. That is not Texas. That's maybe some NPR Karen's view of what they want to represent Texas, but that is quite small. This could be a five point block, Calci. And I'm not saying the predictive markets are all but it's 60, 40 as we speak right now. And those are people putting up hard money. 60, 40, 20 point spread. 20 point spread. You could beat Talarico by five. You define him right now, Alfred. The president called him Alfred E. Newman. I think we ought to change it to Alfred E. Talarico. What? Me vegan? They got a thing of him eating a big old, I don't know, the back of a steer or something. Trying to prove he's a man. What a beauty. We're going to talk to the grassroots next about why Ken Paxton has such intense support and why we have to use this election as a forcing function on Capitol Hill to force these no good lazy senators to get to work. The dollars convertibility into gold ended in 1971. Gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Well, fast forward to today and the US dollar has lost over 85% of its purchasing power. Gold, on the other hand, is increased in value by over 12,000%. That's why Central banks are buying gold at record levels. That's why major firms like Vanguard and blackright hold significant positions in gold. And that's why I encourage you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold Group. But it starts with education. Birch Gold just announced their Learn and Earn Precious Metals event. This free online event rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get a free silver on your next purchase. Get Even larger incentives as you go. The more you learn, the more you can earn. But you must act now as this special event only runs through April 30th. The dollar lost its anchor in 1971. You don't have to lose yours. Text my name, Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 to join Birch Gold's Learn and Earn Precious Metals event by April 30th. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and do it today.
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War room.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, we're gonna go to scene. I want to show CNN here. Here's the forcing function. You use the victory in the grassroots leaders that led this victory in Texas. 30 points. Unbelievable. What a job with no money and 150 spent against you that you must put it in context. And a 24 year incumbent. You add all that. You have to use that as a forcing function to get the Senate to stop treating President Trump as a lame duck and get to work and get the Trump agenda done over this next 60 days or even take up to September. They don't need a vacation, the deadbeats anyway. If they don't do that, it's very simply don't do that. You're not going. I don't care how much money you got. You have to have grassroots enthusiasm. Not going to win in Georgia, not going to win North Carolina, not going to win in Maine, not going to win in Ohio, probably not going to win in Alaska. Right. Unless we get this radical in Michigan. Not going to win in Michigan. Just go across the board because people are not fired up. They're not prepared to go the extra length. It's all about voter engagement. It's all about low propensity voters. We can do this. This is not a persuasion election. That's what they keep the miscalculation of the people are spending the money. It's not persuasion, it's motivation. It's get out the vote. Let's go to Texas and get it from some leaders. The Texas, the True Texas Project, Julie McCarty and Fran Rhodes. Julie, I'll start with you, ma'.
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Am.
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Your assessment. Just tell us this audience. How did Ken Paxton with no money have this historic. Probably the first time in the republic, if you really compare apples to apples. 30 point. Almost 30 point win against 150 million bucks, man.
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Paxton won because he delivered to the grassroots. I think everything you've just said is absolutely true. We have loved him for years because it's like every single day you open the news and Ken Paxton did this, Ken Paxton did that. And that's what we elected him to do. If every politician would do the things that Ken's doing, would follow through on their campaign promises, they would all get elected with a 30 point spread or whatever the spread you said was. He delivers. And that's what the grassroots that inspires them to get out the vote.
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You're in one of the most important parts of Texas, particularly have to win big up there in Tarrant County. How was it? Just walk us through the mechanics. How did you guys actually pull this off?
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Honestly, we have been training our activists for 17 years. We've been here. So we have a reputation for telling it like it is for, for making the hard decisions and taking the heat for it. And after doing that for 17 years, people, they may not like it, but they, they do trust us. And so when we put out our voting recommendations statewide, we make our endorsements. And people all across the state, whether they are near a true Texas Project satellite or not, they are relying on us for our voter recommendations. We always encourage our people. You've got to work hard. You've got to be getting out the vote. You've got to work the polls. And they get it. It's not the first time we have won a campaign. That was, you know, the grassroots beating a Goliath. We've done it before, we'll do it again. We're going to get Ken Paxton elected to the Senate.
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Talk to me about most of the mainstream media is, I think, totally misinterpreting what went on in Texas. What would you tell the mainstream media what the real story is, ma'?
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Well, the media likes to say that this was all Donald Trump's doing. And I don't want to discredit the favor that Donald Trump has among the Republicans, but that Ken Paxton was going to win this before Donald Trump ever made his endorsement. I don't think Trump would have made the endorsement if he didn't already see that Ken Paxton was going to win. He was on the fence. He was very wishy washy, you know, am I going to support Cornyn or am I going to support Paxton? And in the end, he supported Paxton, but the grassroots knew long before that that that's who we were going to elect. So I, I remember very vividly when Ken Paxton came to me before he had even announced, and he was just kicking the tires. And I was disappointed because I would rather have him be governor. But my very first response was oh, this is going to be fun. Because, you know, Texans booed John Cornyn at our convention, and we were just itching for a good candidate that could take him out, and we did it.
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I remember that very well. Fran Rhodes, talk to me about the $150 million. Now, we had the show down. We moved the show down to the Patriot Mobile guys and some other places down in north of Dallas for a couple of months early on. And I remember seeing these ads, and the Olympics was on for part of the time. We watch broadcast tv, the nightly news, the local news, as you know, is the one of the most expensive parts. And they were just on nightly news every night, every broadcast channel, on every cable, just carpet bombing. And I told people, I said, these ads are so awful, I can't imagine Ken Paxton's mother's going to vote for him. I mean, it was just the scale of it was something that no one had ever seen before. How did that play to the grassroots, ma'? Am?
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Doesn't play very well, truthfully. We mostly down here in Texas, we believe that money doesn't necessarily win a campaign. Of course, it's important, but we've seen it over and over again where the most money spent is the loser. And I think this Cornyn race, Cornyn Paxton race is a great example of that. We've been trying to get rid of John Cornyn for the last two election cycles that, that I can recall. But we've just never had a candidate that was recognizable, that had name recognition that could stand up to the money that Cornyn raises. So we love Ken Paxton in Texas, and we're going to be happy to have him in the Senate.
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What I'm going to get to. I'm going to ask both of you guys about Talarico in a second. But one of the reasons I want to have grassroots leaders on here for Texas, having spent so much time down there with you guys, there are lessons for the nation in two things. One, what the grassroots did in all these states on redistricting, including Texas, where it kind of kicked off this time, but also in this race, what would you tell the senators? Because they're all sitting up there and they're not working with Trump. They're kind of treating him like a lame duck. And they all think the same Senate leadership fund, the exact same money that came in in back of Cornyn to destroy the grassroots in Texas and destroy Ken Paxton their champion. The exact same people are sitting up here in D.C. right now saying, well, hold it. We got such a massive fundraising Advantage over the, over the Democrats that we've got this. Ma'.
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Am.
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Fran, what would you, what would you tell the Senate Leadership Fund and the leaders in the Senate right now that are not moving any of the legislation that President Trump needs?
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Well, I can tell you there's several candidates here in Texas at the state level that have said we don't need the grassroots to get elected, and we have handily proven them wrong and they are no longer state representatives or state senators, whatever. So, I mean, I would send the same message to the Senate. They may not care what the grassroots think, but it's time that they start caring because the grassroots people care. And if another, if enough other states do what Texas has done here and elect a really hard working candidate that's going to defend their state the way Paxton has defended Texas, then we could change the face of the Senate.
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Julie, what would you tell the president? What are the lessons that you believe he should take away from Texas, particularly as it relates to his relationship with the United States Senate right now? Ma', am,
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the president, he's got a great agenda. I wish that he would push it a little bit harder. And I think he can maximize this win with Paxton and prove that the grassroots are with him. The grassroots want to do what his agenda says, and they'll win if they do that. I've never understood politicians that don't answer to the grassroots only because, you know, when they do the right thing, like when Paxton walks out onto a stage, he's going to get a thunderous roaring applause from the grassroots that are so grateful for what he does. Now, does not every politician want that thunderous roaring applause? Would they rather be booed like Cornyn gets booed because he betrays the grassroots? That makes no sense to me. So the more you can push Trump's original agenda, the more people are going to praise you. But I mean, not accomplishing, not accomplishing that agenda makes Trump look bad and makes them look bad, and it makes the grassroots angry. And then people want to go home and say, forget it, I'm done. So the only way to save America, to succeed in politics, is to listen to the grassroots every. Every time. Every time.
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Hang on, I'm gonna hold you guys through the break. We still got a couple of minutes, because I want to ask you what the political class, and particularly the media class, don't understand about what's happening in Texas right now. Fran, I'll start with you. It appears to me, having spent a couple months down there, that the media in New York and D.C. think that Talarico is the second coming and he's a perfect NPR candidate, but that he's not really defined in the minds of the people in the state of Texas. Fran, would you would you agree with that? Do you think that people and as you look at Talarico as the opposition here, does he strike fear into the grassroots in Texas as someone that's unbeatable?
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Not at all. I think he's easily beatable. He's a total freak. We are calling him Talafrico down here in Texas. I've observed him in the Texas House for the last several sessions, and he not only believes these crazy things, he works hard to get them passed in the legislature, and we are constantly having to fight back against it. It's just a constant battle to keep these Democrats from trying to do things that are just crazy, in my opinion. So, yeah, I think, I thought from the moment Ken Paxton announced and people started saying, oh, he'll never defeat Talarico, I just think that's crazy. I think Paxton will easily defeat Talarico in Texas. Now, if Talaria wants to run for Senate from the state of New York or, you know, California or one of those states, sure, he'd have a great chance because he's their dream candidate.
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Fran, hang on for one second. Julie, hang on for one second. Want to hold you guys. We get right back to Texas. Philip Patrick's also going to talk to us and talk about the deal President Trump's talking about with the Persians, the economic implications of that in capital markets throughout the world. Take your phone and text Bannon B A N N O N at 9,898 98 the ultimate guide for Investing in Gold and Precious Metals in the Age of Trump. It's totally free, no obligation, and you get access to Philip Patrick and his team. Short commercial break Back to War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Julie, I want to ask you the same question, because inside I didn't play the Dana Bash cut because, I mean, they're sitting there going, you know, what a what? He's the perfect candidate. Texas has looked for this guy forever. This is going to be, you know, the first time Ken Paxton is going to have to a guy said that Ken Paxton, they're going to have to raise and spend $500 million in Texas to defeat Talarico. Your thoughts, ma'?
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Am?
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I think they're always going to try to scare the people into giving their money away to a campaign. So, yes, of course they're going to talk about how expensive this race is going to be. But let me just give you an example of something that happened just yesterday. I had a true Texas project supporter, probably more educated on politics than, than most. And he had a friend talking to him saying well, hey, I've Talarico and he sounds pretty good and you know, he's got all these churchy kind of things going on and maybe he's better than Ken Paxton because you know, we don't like Ken or whatever. And this educated voter got confused and he's like, well wait a minute, maybe I should be supporting Talafrico. And it took us 2.2 seconds to just give him some quotes from, from Talarico thinks that he believes just bullet pointing. You know, his, his beliefs on gender and his beliefs on Jesus and, and, and it's so obvious so quickly that he really, I mean his name is apt Talafrico. That's Ken Paxton came up with that and, and man, he nailed it because it doesn't take any time at all for the grassroots to realize this guy is a nut job and nobody's going to vote for him. I, I'm, I know everybody is afraid that this could go either way and it's going to be a close race. I'm with Fran. I don't think it's going race. I think we got this.
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It's gonna be a lot of hard work. But I agree with you. I think it's gonna be a 5 or 10 point spread because I think more Texans get into. And now, you know, he's already started apologizing. He starts off this thing with apology, you know, about God being binary and all that. No, no, no, no, dude, that's what you absolutely believe. And on your rise up and with the, with the media in New York city and in D.C. and in Hollywood, you rode this so now you gotta live with it. It's absolutely what he believes and basically what he believes behind closed doors. So he is a total freak. He's being defined even as we speak. And I think Ken Pax and his team are doing a great job. Julie, I'll start with you. Where do, where do we go for your social media and where do we go to get True Texas Project? Particularly people around the nation that want to get some of the lessons learned of this massive victory down in the Longhorn State?
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Yeah, we're@trutexasproject.com all spelled out trutexasproject.com We've got training on our website. People can become a certified true Texan they take five classes and they basically get trained to be an activist. We've had people around the state that they go to our satellites and they're speaking to our different groups and they'll tell us that the true Texans that they speak to, their activism, their level of intelligence, their level of engagement is off the charts compared to other groups that they speak to. Because we have put so much into training them. And it's all on our website.
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That's. Do you have personal. Do you have a personal social media.
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Yes, I'm Julie White McCarty on Facebook and hey, Julie sue on X.
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Hey, Julie Sue. Fran, do you have. What's your personal. What's your personal social media.
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Yes. On Facebook, I am Fran Waters Rhodes. And on X, I am Fran Rhodes. TX1
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Guys, don't ever change. A historic win. I mean, historic. Historic for this country about our past. But more importantly, it's historic because I think this is the game changer that leads us on to victory, both in the House and the Senate. And we'll get the Senate. We're going to use this as a club to browbeat them into submission and doing the right thing. So historic win. And it was people like you that did it. On your shoulders. Love you guys. Thank you.
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Thank you.
B
This is the redistricting effort. The Sharia law redistricting throughout the country. The Sharia law in Texas here. Historic. If you get the grassroots, if you get the MAGA base motivated, if you get them focused and motivated, great things will happen. There has to be a. There has to be a confrontation with the Senate. It's not. Take Cornyn as a lesson. Cornyn's your boy. He's yours. Everything about him is you. The Senate, Senate leadership front. Stephen Law, you know, La Civita, all these guys, he's you. In your campaign, did you make it about issues? Did you make it about the great issues of the day? Did you give the Texans on the conservative side something to think about? No, you did not. You went back to your parlor trick. Let's destroy them. Well, guess what? It didn't work. We destroyed you. And now it's time that thune better listen up and let's get him removed. Put the fear of God into 27 of them to make the change. You're going to lose. You're going to lose in Maine, you're going to lose in Georgia, you're going to lose in North Carolina, you're going to lose in Ohio. Mark my words. People are not going to turn out for it. Just don't think you assume that people are going to come out and do the work that has to be done in voter engagement. It's not going to happen because they understand you don't do anything. The Save America thing was a complete performance art. And then you left for two weeks up in Trump's face. Left the other day. We only got five months and the clock is ticking. We're burning daylight. We're burning daylight. The grassroots done with it Cook today, I think came out. I think we're at 210 basically safe seats. Of the 218, there's 18 or 19. Susan. I think there's roughly 18 toss ups. We're at 210. The Democrats are 207. But a totally different situation than in years past. We can actually hold the House with, with the horrific work that they've done. That's because the grassroots got the redistricting done and put the fear got them. They still left eight or nine seats on the table. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. But it's time to stop playing softball with the Senate. They either got to listen up or make some changes. Give them a shot, Mr. President. Give him a shot. Like Trump doesn't have the weight of the world in shoulders. I got Philip Patrick here, he's trying to negotiate a deal with some of the hardest people in the world to negotiate with the Persians that have, you know, 3,500 years of experience of doing this. Philip Patrick. And no, you know, it's, it's. Your brother is one of the most, one of the best experts who've ever had on here about that. Trump's got the weight of that. He's doing everything in the world. The weight's on his shoulders. He's still gotta go and whip votes on redistricting and now he's gotta play patty cake with the Senate because they don't feel like doing what he wants to have done. They got other ideas. We don't care what your other ideas are. We see it. You don't wanna do the Save America Act. You don't wanna do anything that's in the Trump program. It's time now to get as hard and tough with the Senate as we got with John Cornyn. John Cornyn, Big talk. He's big talk. You know, going to Israel. Steve Bannon's an anti Semite. Screw you, dude. You're in the dustbin of history. Anti Semite. That total, complete scumbag. And he gave that thing the other day. You're quoting poetry and you're quoting the man in the arena. You know, big crocodile Tears. You and your wife, you had a room full of 50 journalists, not one supporter showed up. That is your career. That's the dustbin of history. You just got kicked into Cornyn. Here's the great news. ROE in La Civita. It will resonate throughout history of the historic defeat by the little guys in Texas. The little guys in Texas said Paxton's been there from day one. You tried to impeach him, you tried to throw him out, you tried to defeat him. You ran the dump. The bushes get dumber as you go down the evolutionary chain here. Jeb's son, dumbest of the lot and be dumber than 43. That's pretty dumb. And Ken Paxton defeated him. Philip Patrick, where are we see this deal, the economy? Scott Bessant did the press conference today. I thought Scott did a very good job, but he got peppered with a lot of questions about the economy. What's your assessment right now and particularly where does the ownership of physical gold fold into that, sir?
F
The assessment of the economy or the peace deal? Steve, to clarify. Sorry.
B
Well, let's take the peace deal first and then from the peace deal we can talk because the economy is not going to get. We're not going to re. Kick it until we get. Until we get an off ramp. And this looks it got a feel of an off ramp, sir?
A
Yeah.
F
Let's see. It's interesting. I saw the reports coming through Axios this morning. It doesn't look like a final peace deal at this point. It feels like a 60 day pressure valve. Hopefully the beginning of the end of the conflict is what I'm hoping for. The reported terms seem pretty clear. Right. We're requiring the Iranians to open up the straits immediately. No tolls, no harassment, and importantly, to remove mines within 30 days. And I think in response we said we're going to lift the naval blockade in stages as shipping starts to resume and give Iran some limited ability to sell oil again. I'd be interested to see how that plays out. The bigger nuclear question, though, is being pushed, I think, to future negotiations. Economically, the impact is pretty clear already. Oil pressure is reducing as we speak. If tankers can move freely through the Strait of Hormuz, it's going to take immediate fare premiums out of energy prices. Brent crude, last I checked, had dropped to $85 a barrel already. And that matters. As we've said many times, energy is not just just another commodity. It's the input behind absolutely everything, you know, trucking, food, shipping, etc. Etc. There's also a few other vital commodities that pass through the the strait that are vital for, for semiconductor manufacturing and other things. So, yes, I would say this is good news. Anything that gets traffic moving through the straight is and it gives the White House some breathing room. But what it doesn't do is solve the underlying problems yet. It just postpones them. Right. Iran's enriching uranium is not yet disposed of. Sanction relief is not yet finalized. We still have to keep US Forces there until there's a final agreement. And the Straits already starting to see skirmishes while we're negotiating the peace deal you mentioned earlier. The Iranians are some of the trickiest people to negotiate with. I don't expect this to be smooth from here. I think the key phrase now is de escalation, not so much resolution. If Trump can force the Iranians to really reopen the strait without surrendering the nuclear issue, that's going to be real leverage. But from an economic standpoint, I don't think we should confuse this 60 day timeout with a durable reset. Essentially, the match may be off the fuse, but the fuse is there and the match is still burning.
B
Scott Besant and I think he said this the other day. If you go back to 27 February, the day before the start of this growth then was looking like 4% coming out of Atlanta and other places, 4% of the Fed and inflation was going to be down to 2%. I would like to have had that question asked to Scott today. But your assessment, when you guys look at macroeconomic, when do we return to that? Because that's the Trump economic program. We got about a minute. I'm holding through Philip. When do we return to that, sir?
F
Look, it's going to be tough. I think we need to get this conflict resolved. Looks like we're heading in that direction, but we're not there yet. And I think once the world starts to see volatility has calmed down, Straits are operating normally. I think they've got an opportunity maybe the following quarter to start to create some stability and bring the inflation number down. Growth's going to be an interesting part as well. They're banking a lot on AI. I'm interested to see how that pans out. I know Besson was sort of touting the idea that AI growth could support our debt. So we got a little bit of time to go. But like I said, a resolution to this conflict sooner rather than later is going to bring that timeframe forward. I'm a little bit more skeptical than others that the Iranians are going to play ball. So I'm starting to get concerned this thing will drag out a little longer. But like I said, once it's in the rearview mirror, I think they're going to be set up to start bringing the inflation number down and pushing growth. But until then, we're tight.
B
Okay. Stick around. We're going to take a short commercial breakup. Got that right. After five years, slash Bannon end of the dollar empire, we go into the entire issue about being the prime reserve currency and the pressure as president Trump needed more pressure, the pressure on the US Dollar. And you get to talk to Philip Patrick and the team over Bert Goro. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. You know Philip Patrick. I highly respect Scott Besson. I, I, I admire Scott Besant and I'm glad he's got the job because he's a safe pair of hands. And if Elon Musk has choice of Lutnick, it have been a complete and total unmitigated disaster. The war room was right there and he's done a great job. I do disagree with his response today a little bit on AI. Our business model for the country is a highly leveraged bet on really unproven technology, massive productivity gains to grow our way out of here. If we're going to grow our way out of here through manufacturing, okay, that's one thing. But AI and the investment AI, I'm not so sure about that, particularly on the when you add in the modicum of restraints that have to be put in here. So I don't know. That's an open question. But right now, how should people be thinking about the dollar in the dollar in respect to ownership of physical gold? How should they be thinking about it? What's your recommendation where they go to contact you guys?
F
Yeah, well, that was a lot there. So first of all, I agree with you vehemently. Scott Besson is the best guy for the job for sure. And I think theoretically this investment in AI AI boom could help increase productivity, reduce costs, create new growth. The theory's there. But to build a national strategy that completely relies on technological development, that hasn't any profits yet, let alone the tax revenue needed to close the gap, I think is hopeful and I don't think it's the way we should do it. When it comes to the debt, listen, this problem isn't going away. The deficit this year is going to be 1.9 trillion. It's heading to over $3 trillion over the next decade. Debt held by the public is already around the size of the entire economy. It's projected to hit 120% of GDP by 2036, which means Washington's going to get backed into a corner at some point. Right? What that means for individuals, I think longer term, and we've discussed this many times, is a longer term devaluation of currency and inflation. And what that means for gold ultimately is higher gold prices. Listen, there's a reason that central banks for the last four and a half years have set consecutive annual records for gold buying. They see the situation when it comes to the dollar. They're looking at the debt trap that we've created for ourselves. And I think they understand that longer term it's unmanageable. Good stewardship with Bass and Trump can slow down what I think is ultimately the inevitable. But we're hurtling down a path that no empire in human history or no empire's currency, I should say, has ever recovered from. So for me, longer term we'll see that, you know, a slow devaluation of the dollar, as you and I have discussed many times, it won't be linear, but I think it will be consistent over the longer term. And that's where gold comes in. Gold is designed to preserve buying power. It is power. It is inflation resistant. As the cost of living increases, it increases as well. It's why central banks are buying it, to preserve reserves and it's why we as individuals should buy it to protect our retirement is is really that simple. And I think longer term we're going to continue to see gold prices go up and investment banks are mirroring that sentiment. I've mentioned, I think here before, JP Morgan is saying gold will hit $6,000 by the end of this year or early next and continue to increase longer term. So I think everybody should be considering it. Like I said, Besson is doing the best job anybody could in that position. But what he inherited was a disaster.
B
Disaster. Birchgold.com Bannon ended the dollar empire. All free, all the information. Birch gold all free. No obligation. And they get to talk to you. Philip Patrick, thank you so much for coming on here. I look forward to everybody getting on there and talking to Philip Patrick remembers no obligation, totally free. Pick his brain. Philip, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you and your words of wisdom. Such a steady pair of hands like Besson. Thank God for in bessant we trust. Is that what they said? Do I have Mike Lindell? Mike Lindell, you're up at the convention, sir?
D
Absolutely. I just stepped out for about a half hour. I'm heading Back in there now. The big debate tonight starts in about an hour and 15 minutes. And it's going to be, it's going to be quite a night. It's an hour and a half debate with the candidates and then we have another hour after that, kind of like a town hall setting.
B
I think we're working to stream that to make sure we get, we don't get enough of Mike Lindell. So we want to see more in this debate because you are leading this campaign. Yes, okay.
D
Absolutely.
B
We're going to stream it. We'll watch all that talk to us about. People love that. They love the fact you're running. They love the fact you're going to save Minnesota. They love the fact that you're going to ban sharia law. They love you. But they want to know about deals. Mike, at the end of the day, it's all about the deal. What do you got for us?
D
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B
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D
Absolutely. Thank you. War room posse and support. Check out Lindell gov.com everybody Lindell gov.com you can see what all we're doing and help support this. We got to win Minnesota. It's critical.
B
We got you sir. Thank you. Look for look at the debate tonight. Stick around. The second hour of the war room afternoon show is upon us.
Bannon's War Room: Episode 5406 – Forcing Senate To Finish The Trump Agenda
Date: May 28, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Guests: Julie McCarty & Fran Rhodes (True Texas Project), Philip Patrick
This episode centers on the seismic shift within the Republican Party as highlighted by John Cornyn’s historic primary defeat in Texas, attributed to the rise of the Trump-aligned “MAGA” base and the downfall of “Bush-era” Republicanism. Bannon and his guests dissect how the grassroots and Trump’s influence are reshaping party priorities and discuss what it means for the Senate, Trump’s legislative agenda, and national GOP strategy. The episode also covers economic anxieties, a tentative peace deal with Iran, and the continued debate around U.S. fiscal policy.
(00:00–03:38)
“When a Republican goes up against Donald Trump... it doesn’t end too well for that Republican senator.” – Speaker A (00:32)
“George W. Bush era... is dead and this was the capstone to it. And Donald Trump’s Republican Party is very much alive.” – Speaker A (01:22)
“This is Donald Trump’s Republican Party and... that Republican Party [Bush era] is dead. It’s in the graveyard.” – Speaker A (03:06)
(04:00–13:30)
“It was the grassroots effort, the leaders and all the folks ... I cannot speak highly enough about them.” – Bannon (04:26)
“This is a guy that, with McConnell, fought the border wall intensely in 17... Cornyn played the oldest game in the world.” – Bannon (11:58)
(16:24–18:07)
“It’s not persuasion, it’s motivation. It’s get out the vote.” – Bannon (16:48)
Guests: Julie McCarty & Fran Rhodes
(18:07–32:41)
“Paxton won because he delivered to the grassroots... If every politician would do the things that Ken’s doing... they would all get elected with a 30 point spread.” – Julie McCarty (18:27)
“When we put out our voting recommendations statewide ... they do trust us.” – Julie McCarty (19:16)
“We believe that money doesn’t necessarily win a campaign... the most money spent is the loser.” – Fran Rhodes (22:03)
“They may not care what the grassroots think, but it’s time that they start caring because the grassroots people care.” – Fran Rhodes (23:50)
“He’s a total freak. We are calling him Talafrico down here in Texas.” – Fran Rhodes (26:46)
“The more you can push Trump’s original agenda, the more people are going to praise you... The only way to save America... is to listen to the grassroots every time.” – Julie McCarty (24:54, 25:57)
Guest: Philip Patrick
(37:35–46:15)
“If Trump can force the Iranians to really reopen the strait without surrendering the nuclear issue, that’s going to be real leverage.” – Philip Patrick (39:23)
“Gold is designed to preserve buying power. It is inflation resistant ... it’s why central banks are buying it.” – Philip Patrick (45:03)
On Trump’s party status:
“Donald Trump’s Republican Party is very much alive. He is the leader of the Republican Party.” – Speaker A (01:28)
On establishment vs. grassroots:
“They just want grassroots movement to shut up, show up to vote, send us your money, and you’re just going to have to live with what we come up with.” – Bannon (10:10)
On political authenticity:
“If every politician would do the things that Ken’s doing, would follow through on their campaign promises, they would all get elected with a 30 point spread…” – Julie McCarty (18:27)
On Senate leadership:
“They may not care what the grassroots think, but it’s time that they start caring because the grassroots people care.” – Fran Rhodes (23:50)
On Talarico:
“He’s a total freak. ... I think Paxton will easily defeat Talarico in Texas.” – Fran Rhodes (26:46)
On party’s motivational needs:
“It’s not a persuasion election. ... It’s not persuasion, it’s motivation. It’s get out the vote.” – Bannon (16:48)
Note: Episode skips most commercial/ad content, focusing on political analysis and discussion.