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Episode 5425: Urgent Need To Secure America's Elections
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go
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to share the big lie?
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MAGA Media I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Friday the 5th of June year of our Lord 2027 6. Maybe this weekend is the weekend. You immerse yourself in understanding how the US dollar has been central to the global economy since World War II. As we took over from the Brits, their cratering empire and the British pound. Bretton woods. All of we go through all of this, the whole history, the history of populism in the 19th century and how it was tied to issues of fiat currency and precious metals and central bank times really haven't changed. Same kind of fight. Check it out. 8 free installments online endothedollar empire birchgold.com Bannon End of the dollar empire. And more importantly, get to talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Big news throughout the world. Daily Telegraph. Financial Times reported on it finally. We broke it to you six, seven months ago. Central banks throughout the world are buying gold as a financial asset and financial class putting on their balance sheet more so than US government securities. 10 year treasury up. Today's economy looks like it's a little hot, which is not a bad thing. It's not great that the 10 year Treasury's up, but it's good that the economy's growing and Besson and team are getting people back to work. More of that later. So Brandon, why is this? I understand why merging the defense base is a horrible idea. It's the reason they took a voice vote, folks. They don't want the 18 on Ukraine will tell you. Yeah, we'd rather have a voice vote on that. So you're not, you know, you're not outing these guys as collaborations, but what is the issue on intelligence? What, what, what would this, how would this be any worse than the Mossad running the CIA right now, sir?
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Well, it enhances that control, let's put it that way. By codifying it into law. So what I mean to say is what Right now our relationship with the Israeli intelligence services is mostly transactional, at least officially. We don't share everything with them the way that we share with those five eyes countries. We pick and choose. Under the new law that's being pushed, Section 622 in the Senate, basically it would open a floodgate of intelligence and information into the Israeli intelligence services. Whether they ask for that intelligence or not. Right now they have to ask for it technically. Then also what, what this, what this will do is also it hems in future presidents. Right now the US Israeli intelligence sharing partnership is, is controlled by the given president. So if a president wants to restrict more access, he can easily, or yeah, he can easily do so eventually. If this law passes, the president no longer has that freedom of movement. Now, you and I discussed last time. There is a groundswell of people in both these younger people who are at least skeptical of our alliance with Israel in its current form. And I think the Israelis and the Zionists in Congress are fearful that eventually future politicians from either party will try to hem. So they're trying to rein in the President's freedom of authority on this.
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They're trying to hermetically seal this. It's not going to happen.
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That's correct.
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It's not going to happen. We will never allow this to happen. Not to the United States of America. Not going to happen. I'm going to have Fennell on here. One of the most renowned naval intelligence officers in the history of the United States Navy warned this country about the rise of the PLA Navy and gave up his career for that during the Obama administration. We're going to be talking about guess what intelligence in the year 1941 and 42. One led to Pearl harbor, the other led to the victory at Midway. This is the investigations about this current war. This war, this war. The investigations of what was the real intelligence and what was fed to the President back in June of last year. And this for this, this is a living thing. Don't think for a second we're ever going to rest till we get to the bottom of it. Of exactly what was presented to the President and who is responsible for presenting it. Kurt Mills, your thoughts on this topic, sir?
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Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, look, it matters what gets in front of the President of the United States. I think you know this as a former member of the Principals Committee of the National Security Council. I think you know the interagency process is a buzzword used by DC or blob types but it matters and it mattered. In the run up to this war, the interagency process completely broke, broke down. Not entirely clear what Marco Rubio, State Department, National Security Council were doing. Not entirely clear why there was a joint briefing with a foreign country that had a far greater vested interest in war with Iran than we did. This is the Israelis. Not entirely clear why there have been widespread reports, not exactly batted down by Langley, that Mossad intelligence, I.e. israeli intelligence, was sort of loosely trafficked with American intelligence as far back as last year in the runoffs of the 12 Day War. And make no mistake, although I think a lot of people have a better taste in their mouth about the June excursion. The, the run up to the war with Iran started on June 13, Friday the 13th last year with the 12 day war when the Israelis enforced a deadline to a negotiation they weren't party towards. I think you see today with the job numbers that are actually surprisingly strong for this economy. Of all the concerns that the president still has an opportunity to cut his losses, to declare victory, to get an enduring deal with the Iranians that is better by a country mile potentially than the Obama Iran deal and focus on other affairs and don't let Israel subsume his presidency.
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Kurt, where do people get you with all your great commentary and writing on this?
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Yeah, the magazine is ww.the American Conservative.com Founded in 2002 by Patty Cannon and friends against the Iraq war. And my own personal commentary and mixture with the firms is at Kurt Mills at Cur RT and my lls on X and you know, the Internet. Thank you.
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Thank you, brother. Appreciate great commentary. Brandon, where do they get you, particularly these pieces you're writing now about the merger of both intelligence and the industrial base, Sir.
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Well, that's, that's on my new sub stack. Thanks for promoting it. It's weikert.substack.com that's the Weikert brief. You can also find me on Twitter at We the Brandon and also at 1945. That's the old website, guys. The Weikart Report is my old one. I got to take that down. But the 1945 com and Amazon.com is where you can get all my books on national security. Thanks for having me as always, Steve.
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Thank you. Very explosive, but we need to do it. Did a voice vote. They're trying to hide in the middle of the night. Don't want to. Let's do real votes like the 18 collaborationists on the Ukraine. 18. $8 billion. This is sick. Today the president's going To Wisconsin. Our own Ben Berkram is going to be there. He's out there to talk and listen to farmers. Let's go to the White House first. Why is he going out there, McCabe, why is the President taking time away from obviously a packed schedule to go out to listen to, talk to and listen to farmers in Wisconsin? We love that. We love the farmers in Wisconsin. But he's got a couple of three things on his plate. Why would he prioritize this, sir?
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Yeah, once again, Steve, it's an example of not what is said, but why it is said. The President is going out there nominally to participate in an agriculture roundtable. He's really there to support Congressman Van Oren, who is Derek Van Oren, who is one of those on the bubble, conservative congressmen. The last three cycles, he's won with 49, 53, 51%. And so it's rated a toss up by Cook. So on one level, he's just there to listen to farmers. He's going to help out this congressman. But the White House also wants the message to go out nationally that the President is participating with farmers. He's listening to them, and he's delivering on his promises to them.
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Steve, hang on for one second. Let's play a clip. Neil, stay right there. We're gonna go also to Burkwam, who's on location. Let's go ahead and play this clip. One of the things we know about
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Iowa farm country, pretty rural field of dreams.
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How do rural voters feel about the president?
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Yeah, you know, Iowa has been traditionally a field of dreams for the President of the United States, but it's quickly turning into potentially a field of nightmares. There seems to be a rural revolt going on in this country against Donald Trump. Take a look here. Rural voters on Trump. Look, according to Fox News, he was easily winning them back in October of 2024 versus Kamala Harris, 18 points ahead. The exit poll even had it a bigger margin. But look at where he is now.
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Whoo.
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Down there, underwater, underneath the cornfields. He's now 14 points underwater. That's an over 30 point switcheroo against the President. United States. As I said, there appears to be a rural vote going against Donald Trump.
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What could one of those reasons be?
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You know, one of the big reasons that there seems to be a rural vote against Donald Trump. Simply put, it's the economy. It's inflation. Take a look at this. You thought that that switcheroo was big. How about this one? Rural voters on Trump and inflation versus Kamala Harris. He was more trusted by 37 points. Now he is 19 points underwater with rural voters on inflation. That is an over 50 point switcheroo against the President of the United States. Rural voters, like the rest of the country, turning against Trump on the key issue that got him elected to a second term back in 2024.
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That is a big, big shift. That is a huge shift.
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Okay.
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As I know, the president's sort of
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endorsement primary magic wore off.
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Hang on for a second. Put a pin in that. I may come back to it, but I'm definitely going to go to Ben Berquin. Ben, you're there. You saw this the other day. Although I do think the president got bad advice. He jumped into this Iowa situation with only a couple of days ago and it had a MAHA candidate that had real momentum and was really connecting with people. So I think, I don't really count that one. Why, though, Ben, you're out there. Why is the president going out to Wisconsin today?
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Well, it's, you know, as you just heard on that post, I mean, there is definitely some concerns obviously going into the midterms. It's always about the economy. The crazy thing is if you look at the numbers, what inflation was under Joe Biden, what cost of gas was under Joe Biden, all of them were higher. But doesn't matter. It matters what's happening right now. We had some of the lowest energy costs at the beginning of President Trump's term. After the Iran war, we were seeing higher numbers. And that impacts people's willingness to go out and vote, not, not necessarily their support. They may still support President Trump, but they may just not care as much to go out and vote. And that's the big concern. So he's starting here in Wisconsin. He's going to be hitting all the Midwest. This is, this is the heartland of maga. And so this is one of those areas. And as you, as McCabe said, this is one of those races, toss up races that we need to win in order to keep the House. And this is, you know, this is
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worth, it's about the turnout and the enthusiasm. Let me ask you, I just want to make sure I get the logistics right. There's not a rally today. The president's going to do a roundtable, a listening session. Is there a rally scheduled?
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It's kind of a quasi boat. So you've got, it's a roundtable, but you've got this group of local folks that have come out as well. So there's going to be an audience with it. So it's a Roundtable to listen to the farmers. But it's also folks are here to be a part of it as well. So it's kind of a combination.
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Then it'll be a mini rally. Ben, what is your social media? You're doing a bunch of stuff. We're working on a bunch of stuff behind the scenes on this ice situation. You're also. I can announce that Ben is working on a major book for us. We'll announce that later. But Ben has been spending some time really putting together the stories that you guys have followed for the last, I don't know, five or six years. Particularly of all the death defying acts that Ben Berkram has done to report and make sure that the MAGA base and the Warren posse get all the information they need from throughout the world. Ben, where they go to your social media and to get your show.
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Yeah. And even more importantly, it's about what God has done in my life to get me here. But stay tuned for that. It's going to be I, it's going to be great. So my social is Ben Berkwa. My personal obviously real America's Voice Ealam voice. New episode of Law and Border is going to be coming out very soon. America's Voice news and in my website frontlineamerica.com and we will be out here with these awesome folks in just a few minutes.
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Yeah, we'll see you. We'll get you back at 5 o' clock on the 5 o' clock show. Check in from Wisconsin. Thank you sir. Neil McCabe, where do people get you for your reportage today as you hold down the fort at the White House?
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Can you give me a quick 30 seconds on the Iowa thing, Steve?
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Sure, sure.
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No, I wanted to make the point that Randy Feastrow was a scalp because six years ago he was the Kevin McCarthy stooge that was put out to take Steve King down. And so this was six years coming but Steve King reemerged in this race and he could be a kingmaker again in Iowa for 28. And so you can find me on all the socials.
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No, no, no. Hang on, hang on. Now that you went there, we got to go there. You stick around, I get you right after the break. The great Steve King. Vengeance is his. McCabe, so glad you're back from Fiji and wherever the hell you were. Take a short commercial break. We return to the White House with the true story of Iowa. Next. For the first time Since World War II, our national debt held by the public has exceeded GDP. America, this is a Wake up call. Our sins of the past, reckless government spending have finally caught up to us. So what's next? Higher inflation, higher prices, higher cost of living expenses and higher interest payments on the national debt? Every dollar Washington spends on interest is a dollar it has to tax, borrow or print. Smart retirement planners prepare for potential setbacks and they can do that by diversifying with a time tested asset known for weathering the storm that is physical gold. Now physical gold you can get from my trusted friends at Birchgold Group. Text the word Bannon B A N N o N to the number 989-898 and Birchgold will send you a free info kit on converting an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. You don't pull the ripcord on your parachute once you've already hit the ground. Don't wait for economic turbulence to diversify. Text Bannon to the number 989-898. Again, text Bannon to 989-898. Own some gold and own it from Birchgold. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Take your phone at text Bannon B A N n Owen at 989-898. You get access to the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Talks about your 401ks IRAs, all the different methodologies that you can roll over in a tax deferred way. Find out why goal is a hedge against times of financial turbulence. Most important, gives you access to Philip Patrick and his team. You need to talk to them, particularly asking the question why are the central banks. Well, the central banks know that. I don't. Why are they buying gold at record rates and not US Treasuries? Ask them that, wait for the answer and then act accordingly. Bannon 989-898 into your cell phone. Check it out today. McCabe I'm pressed for time because I got two very important things I gotta get to. Not this is not important but just real quickly. Steve King was a hero and we would not be where the country had been so flooded if it not been for Steve King standing in the breach for years in the, in the house. Remember Stephen Miller was a, was a strong compadre when he was Bachmann Bachman staff of working with Steve King all the time. And then he went with sessions to make sure that we could block amnesty, we could block daca. I mean Steve King is a hero full on. And he was taken out by Kevin McCarthy after the new York Times made up quotes that Steve King never said made up quotes by him. And this is where we people allowed McCarthy, these guys to run him out, replace him with this guy who's not mag at all. And then the President's political team talked the President into coming in four days before they thought it was going to be an easy win. He got blown out. And that's on them by a Make America healthy again candidate. McCabe, your thoughts?
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I just am really looking forward to Steve King being that Kingmaker in Iowa for the Iowa caucuses that he was before. And so this really tees up his re engaging for 2028. And like you said in the House, he fought Boehner, he fought ryan, he fought McCarthy, and McCarthy's the one who finally took him down. But here he is again, and it's great news, Steve.
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The first guy that came over to the Breitbart Embassy right there on Capitol Hill, the very first person we had come over and brief and really work through everything he was working on, on like the very first afternoon, I think we took it over, was Steve King. That's how highly Andrew thought of him. And he was just, I can't speak enough about what a giant that guy is and where the country would have been so screwed if it not been the valor of Steve King standing in the breach against Boehner, Ryan, that entire crowd, Cantor, all of them in McCarthy, he was the Grundoon. Then McCabe. Where do people go? We'll see you back here at 5. Where do people go to get your coverage throughout the day, sir?
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They can find me at reporter McCabe on all the socials, Steve.
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Thank you, sir. Brian Kennedy got a great piece up in Real Clear Politics about this debacle in California and securing elections. But I got to ask you, because you're a safe pair of hands. I run around with my hair on fire. You do not talk to me about fisa. They're trying to hold the President. He can't put pulte in on an interim basis. He can't nominate Todd Blanche, because if he does, Pfizer's going to go away. What in the hell? We want it to go away, don't we?
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I think we do, Steve. I think it's broken. After September 11th, America created kind of a call it a proto police state, security state, whatever you want to call it. And the purpose of it was to protect us from, you know, foreign terrorists. Now, 20 years later, do we still need that? Well, we probably do in some ways need something given that we've let in, you know, 25 million illegal aliens, many of them Muslim terrorists. And so we need something to protect us. I think the first thing we need is to deport those 25 million people, including all those Muslim terrorists. Second, we need something that the American people can rely on that will not destroy their own personal civil liberties. And that's what FISA looks like it may have done in the hands of people like Barack Obama and Joe Biden. They've used those tools that were meant to protect us to actually violate American civil liberties. So I think we need to rethink of fisa. I think the President and his team should come up with a good proposal on it after this goes away. And I myself am very encouraged by Mr. Pulte. He has a lot of common sense and I would rather trust his common sense than the views of the American deep state and the intelligence community which seems to have their own interests at heart rather than those of the American people and their own freedoms, which is the purpose of government to defend Americans freedoms.
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I want to go to this piece in Real Clear Politics, California. I mean this is such a humiliating in front of the world disaster. And Stuart Pratt put us on something last night. Say welcome to the National Football League. I think they had a drop of thousands of these mail in votes or late voting because they're still counting and he got zero. I mean it's mathematically impossible. So he's getting a wake up call here about how the game is played by the Democrats. Can you get us up to date about your piece? And in your beloved California, I tell people it ain't ever coming back. It's not coming back because it's run by a group of Marxists, sir, Bolsheviks.
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Well, I'll disagree with you just slightly, Steve. I think if you had fair elections in this country and the people of California really saw that there were more of them, more conservatives, more MAGA in California than it currently looks, I think you could still save the state. I just think as a practical matter, we can't turn over America's biggest and most wealthy state to communists. And you're right, there are a lot of communists here. California has constructed this edifice in order to. They created the illusion that in order to get more people voting and to have a more secure election, it's going to take some 40 days to do all the counting and validating of all these election of all these ballots they have, they send out a mail in ballot to everyone. You can still vote in person, but a lot of people will use a mail in ballot. I think a lot of maga uses mail in ballots, even though they've created this narrative that it's only or primarily Democrats. So far in California, 5.6 million ballots have been counted. They think There are another 3.6 million ballots left to be counted. Steve Hilton is. Is still in the lead. That looks pretty solid. He has 27, Becerra has 26, and Steyer, the billionaire communist, has 20. It looks to me like it might be hard for Steyer to catch up in the mayoral race. Karen Bass, another communist, she has 35%, I believe Pratt has 29 and Rahman has 20. I think it'll be harder for Raman to catch up. I think. I think things should. Should turn out okay, or at least they should. It looks like they could turn out okay, but they still have 35 days to go, literally from today. You go on the Secretary of State's website, it's still 35 days to go 10 days from now.
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Hang on, hang on. Stop, stop. Explain that to people. All the votes are not going to be counted. And by the way, I know you love California. I love California. I lived there for years. That's where Mo was raised. It's a fabulous state, but as long as they control it, I just don't know how you're going to unwind it. I don't. So I'm looking for guidance there. But just explain to people the 35 days still to go to count.
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Well, technically, that's when it has to be certified. Ten days from now, all counties have to report the vote totals, and then they have another five days after that to contest them, and then another 20 days, I guess, or 10 days after that to actually see whether or not it should be certified. The whole system is broken. It was established during COVID It was an edifice created in order, forgive me, to steal elections. And the president, when he was on Truth Social, I think it was yesterday, said they're going to steal the election in California. He was not far off. Which leads me to this piece I've written for Real Clear Politics about how to secure American elections. We're in a political war with Communist China today, Steve, and they're going to do whatever they can to make sure that America is in disarray and to hurt President Trump politically. It's a political war that they're in right now. We're still using electronic voting, and big parts of the country, we're still using mail in balloting. We saw, and this is something I wrote about in the piece. We saw Secretary Besant in April call together all the Major banks, all the major banks for an unexpected meeting in Washington D.C. to talk about AI and AI's ability to penetrate our banking system. And it was really an emergency meeting in order to get them working at the top of their game to make sure that their banking systems could not be penetrated by AI because they had seen models that would suggest that AI could penetrate our banking system. So the cyber vulnerability of our banking system is very real. Now we have electronic voting here in this country that is much, much less secure than our banking system. It's night and day. We're going to vote again in these primaries and again in November using primarily electronic voting. These have cyber vulnerabilities that, that our own intelligence community, trust them or not, believes are real. So why are we going to allow another election to be held where there are real cyber vulnerabilities and there are real mail in balloting problems? Director Gabbard, before she left, she released declassified a document which said that the Chinese had penetrated 12 to 18 voter databases around the country. Well, what were the Chinese doing penetrating voter databases other than to muck with our system, including potentially to counterfeit mail in ballots. I'm calling for, in this piece I've written for the President to take very seriously the idea of banning mail in ballotings, ballots, except for in the most extreme circumstances. He believes those things for sure. And to ban electronic voting because we simply can't trust it in an age of cyber warfare and AI.
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Hang on one second, I'm holding through the break. The piece is very profound and you see what's going on in California. We have to secure these midterms. That's why Pulte is so important over a dni. And this is why the left even hates the concept of it.
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Short break.
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sir yes, Steve, I, I go about it this way. If you knew for certain that the election was going to have in November cyber interference, cyber intrusion and a manipulation of the election. If you knew for certain that that was going to happen, if you knew for certain or you had a very good suspicion that there was going to be counterfeit mail in ballots, just if you're an intelligence official or anybody in the government required to defend our election, what would you do if you knew for certain that was going to happen? We don't have the cyber capabilities to stop it. We can't do an adequate job in preventing counterfeit mail in ballots or the abuse of mail in ballots even. I'm calling on the president by executive order to ban electronic voting and to limit mail in ballots and to go back to a paper ballot system counted by human beings, that would be the reasonable common sense thing to do. If you thought that there was going to be cyber penetration of our election, that would be the most commonsensical thing to do. It would be controversial, it would go to court, people would challenge it. But it would be worth the fight to go do that. STEVE and that's really what I'm calling on the President to do here.
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Brian Extraordinary. I'll make sure this gets fully pushed out everywhere. It's an important piece and what you're saying is important. Want to have you back on to talk about this in relation to this debacle in California where you have really good candidates and you see the system's totally rigged against their winning and you got to get some MAGA Republicans in there to turn that state around. It's too great a state for us to lose. Brian Kennedy, where do people go to get your piece and all your writings?
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Thank you. Steve. On X, I'm Brian T. Kennedy. One On Getter and Truth Social, I'm Brian T. Kennedy. Websites present danger china.org there's going to be a webinar up later this afternoon with a new discussion on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square. Thank you, Steve, for, for all you do and great to be with you this morning.
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Thank you, Brian. The safe pair hands the coming influence of Brian Kennedy on the War Room. Captain Fennell, Captain Fennell, you heard us and we're talking about this whole situation now with Israel Intelligence. You've got a problem and you're one of our greatest living intelligence officers. You've got a big problem with the way it's run now with 5i and specifically with the Chinese Communist Party. Sir.
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Yes, Steve I think, you know, Five Eyes needs to be reviewed just like FISA needs to be reviewed as well. We have constructs that are going back to World War II, in essence. And we have countries now inside the Five Eyes that have taken a hostile approach. The United States. And we're excluding other allies that have demonstrated greater support for us. And I think of Japan, in this case a decade ago or over a decade ago, when I retired, I was involved with recommending from the commanders of the Pacific Fleet and Pacific Command that we incorporate Japan into Five Eyes. And the Washington D.C. crowd just shut it down. While we're continuing to share information with Canada, the uk, New Zealand and Australia, we need to relook at that and understand what we're doing there. And the same thing with fisa. FISA is a very important tool. I know some of the people that were there when it was founded. Admiral Max Showers, who we'll talk about in the Battle of Midway. But Admiral Showers was a career Naval intelligence officer and in the CIA. And in the early 70s, after the Nixon Watergate events and the church commissions, you know, the government said we have to come up with a way to preclude the intelligence community from violating the Constitution and our individual rights in the Bill of Rights to not be searched upon by the government. And so people like Admiral Showers, of high honor integrity, developed a system that worked for many, many years. But fast forward to the Obama administration and you see somebody like Samantha Powers submitting essentially over 200 FISA requests to the National Security Agency to have American citizens unmasked as the American Ambassador to the United Nations. I was in almost 30 years, 29 years. And in that time, I submitted one request when I was a director of the U.S. pacific Fleet Intelligence. And that request was denied to me for finding out something that was operationally relevant to the fleet. And our commander wanted it. And the NSA said, no, you don't have a need to know yet. Samantha Powers is able to request and get 200 plus. It was a weaponized FISA. So let's kill FISA and let's create something new that will allow us to do the work that needs to be done. But we need to come up with new procedures and new oversight to. Because it's been grossly violated and there's no more trust in it. And we can. There's a risk there, obviously, but.
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Hang on, hang on.
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The risk mitigated by putting the pressure on Congress to get this done.
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Hang on.
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I want to.
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I want to. Because we're going to do Midway because This is the anniversary of Midway, and if we're not obviously going to be get through it this morning, if we can't, if you're available, we'll do it tomorrow or Monday or something, we're going to tell the whole story because you've got a briefing and people need to see this, not just to honor the heroes of Midway, but also it's relevant to today. But I've got to go back to what you just said, because it's kind of explosive and it needs to be brought into this conversation. You are one of the most serious intelligence professionals I've ever met. You sacrificed your career. Right. And becoming a flag officer specific, because you felt it was necessary to warn the nation about what was happening with the Chinese Communist Party and its Navy. Everything that you warned about at that time has come true. I want to go back to fisa, because you would think in this debate where they're trying to hold President Trump hostage, you would think, well, Jim Fennell is the kind of guy that would be 1000% for FISA renewal and Brian Kennedy, and they're not. I want to go back and use that, use the example of Samantha Powers again, because this is the beating heart of the problem. So take it from the top and walk me back through why you, as one of the best professionals in intelligence we've ever had, are opposed to extending this. And one of the reasons is the Samantha Powers and what can happen there.
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Sir? Yes, Steve, I just want to baseline it again. I knew Admiral Donald Mack Showers, who served with Admiral Nimitz, was there at the Battle of Midway in Hawaii at Station Hypo. He arrived in Hawaii in January, February 42. He served for four years, five years in Hawaii and in Guam on Admiral Nimitz's staff, went on to become a rear admiral and become the deputy director of DIA and serve for 16 years in the CIA. And he was somebody of high, high integrity. And when the church commission said, we have to redo the ic, we have to preclude them from spying on Americans, they came up with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. And he was one of the people on that team that crafted it. And they established a system that would ensure that the United States could still get information about foreign activities in America that may have been associated with an American using telephones in those, in those days, okay, they had no, they had no concept back then of the Internet. And all of that's going on today. And the connectivity that we have. And what has happened is in those days, it was. You could collect on somebody. If you submitted a FISA request to the FISA court and said, hey, we think American person X is getting calls from the Soviets, somebody in the Soviet Union, and we need to hear what's going on there. And they had to go to a court and say, can I listen in on that? And it had to be reviewed. And it was just between the Soviet person and the American person. Well, you fast forward to the Obama administration and they're doing 1, 2, 3 hops, saying, well, I want to be able to collect on the person that's in the Middle east, some terrorist cell that's talking to somebody in America. And then I want to be able to talk to the person in America who talked to another American and another American. And then it was weaponized and they used it to find out and target their political opponents, as opposed to exclusively being used to prevent adversaries from attacking us and preparing plans to destroy America, either in America or in our fielded forces elsewhere. And so this is the, this is the problem with the system now. And it's politicized. It's no good anymore. I think it's probably been contained a bit now since what happened to President Trump. But the fact of the matter is it needs to be abolished. And then we need to start over. And when all the people in D.C. scream and say, oh, it's going to put a risk to national security because we won't be able to collect, and it's NSA for me, predominantly, is going to scream the loudest and say, hey, we can't collect on something and we're at risk, well, then get to work, Congress. Get to work, IC get to work, Director of National Intelligence and Director of CIA and come up with a new system that's approved by the Congress and the American people that will prevent politicization, but still ensure that we can protect ourselves. And nobody wants to do that. They just want to kick the can down the road. And it's. And it's never fully corrected.
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Take a minute. I'm going to hold you through the break. Take a minute. Samantha Powers. Why is she controversial and what does she do to abuse this system?
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Sir, she, she was asking for the unmasking of people that were the political opponents of President Obama. I mean, it was, it wasn't anything to do with national security. It was about finding out information about who people were talking to in the, in the Republican side or guys like Mike Flynn and others. There's a list of these people and it wasn't correct. And I can tell you, I'll say it again, 29 years. I asked one time, and I went by the book, through the system, all the way up to the director of nsa, and I was told, sorry, Jim, we can't give you that. Not Jim, U.S. pacific Fleet. We cannot give you that information. So it was a very tight system in certain circumstances. But when you're back in Washington and you're working for the President. Oh, my gosh, look how people were willing to turn over information and unmask people. And it's wrong. It's against the Constitution.
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Captain Fennell, Hang on. Amazing assessment. This is Jim Fennell, one of our best professionals, one of the best professionals we've ever had, talking to you right there and giving it to you with the bark on the rough way. This is the FISA should just. And you can't hold it against the president. What, are you going to hold up his appointees? Gonna hold up his programs? You're gonna hold up Save America because of FISA renewal? It's obscene. Chapter is a data company that focuses on Medicare and getting you the best deal possible, giving you the best advice. War room is the number 8, 4, 5, war room. Totally free consultation. No obligations. Check it out today, 8, 4, 5 war room. If you're 65 or already on Medicare, listen up, folks, and grab a pen, maybe even a number two pencil, call 8 4, 5, war room. That's 8, 4, 5, war room. Call it right now. I'm serious. Call it now. Here's why. The insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. Rising premiums, denied claims, fine print. Nobody but a lobbyist understands. Millions of American seniors are paying too much and getting too little. And worst of all, most don't even know it. Hey, that could be you. That's why if you're already on Medicare or will be soon, you need to talk to our friends at Chapter. They have a team of advisors trained to serve American seniors, not the insurance companies. In under 20 minutes, they can find you the best plan for your needs at the lowest cost. Why? They're a data company. They have all the data on every plan. It's totally free. There's no pressure, no bs, just straightforward, honest help from fellow patriots. So don't wait. Call 845-WAR ROOM right now. That's 845 WAR ROOM. Tell them Bannon sent you. Now, listen, in the first couple of days of the launch of this company with the Warren Posse, posse members saved tens and up to hundreds of Thousands collectively of dollars in these fees. Go check it out today. That's chapter call 8 4, 5, war room. Do it today.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, we're gonna do, in the 11 o' clock hour tomorrow we're going to do midway with Captain Fennell, because I want to take some time on it. But it's about intelligence and that's why it's as important today as it was then. And then both Pearl harbor and Midway were critical. There's a hero, unsung hero of this story. Is it Joe Rochefort? Can you tell us about, can you tell us about him, his story, the arc of that story and then we'll get to all the details of Midway tomorrow.
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Sure. Joe Rochefort was stated by Admiral Chester Nimitz after Joe Rochefort was summarily removed from his position as the lead intelligence cryptologic radio intelligence officer in station Hypo that was decrypting these Japanese naval codes that won the Battle of Midway. Admiral Chester Nimitz wrote that in paper and said the battle of Midway was in no small part due to the, the great leadership of Joe Rochefort in his combat intelligence unit. So Joe Rochefort was a surface warfare officer, had enlisted, then became an officer. And he had a propensity for cryptography. So he was very bright with numbers and worked in cryptography when he had his shore duty. But he was also a very dedicated naval officer and wanted to serve at sea and wanted to command at sea. And then in the period drawing up to the war, in the early late 20s, 29 to 32, he got an assignment in Tokyo to work and study Japanese. So he was there for three years and learned Japanese, learned the Japanese culture, met Yamamoto along with Edwin Layton, who became his cohort in Hawaii during this period of from 42 to the battle of Midway and before the run up to Pearl harbor on December 7, Joe Rochford followed direction at the, from the. What they called OP20G back in Washington D.C. that gave them the direction of where they were supposed to work on this collection network that we had across the Pacific. We had people in the Philippines, we had people in Australia with people in Shanghai. We had people all over as stations that collected this new thing called radio intelligence, which was intercepting HF radio communications and then decrypting the coded discussions that were going on. And there were different levels of discussion. There were discussions with admirals, there was fleet communications, there was other communications, but the fleet communications, JN25, was not given to the guys In Hawaii. And then the folks in Washington were unable to decrypt it. And December 7th happened and thousands of people were killed. And Joe Rochefort took that personally because he was working 24 hours a day trying to decrypt these things. And after the attack happened on December 7, he recognized that the people in D.C. were, you know, they were, they had their own interests and their own political views and.
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Yes.
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And outlook. And they weren't the same as Chester Nimitz and before that Admiral Kimmel. And so he dedicated and said I'm going to work for the fleet commander. And so he started breaking, working on JN25 with his team there in the basement at Pearl Harbor. Still there today.
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Hang on times. I want to hold and give the
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code so we can know where the Japanese fleet was.
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The, the, the, the intel oper operators of birth of codes, the heroism of pilots that sacrificed and willingly, knowingly gave their lives in these bombing run, in these runs, the sailors, it all came together. That's why Midway, I think what I would argue is maybe the greatest of all naval battles of, in performance of the United States Navy. It's a reason as a kid I want to join the seventh Fleet because I learned those stories early on and just so amazing. Captain, we've got to go. I'm going to have you back tomorrow. Real quickly. Should Admiral Kimmel, should his. Should his rank be reinstated? Should Husband Kimmel. Admiral. Husband Kimmel, should his rank be reinstated? Sir,
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I was in contact with Admiral Kimmel's grandson over the course of my career. And I always felt that Admiral Kimmel was judged very harshly and I'd like to see him reinstated.
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Okay.
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But the Navy's a hard institution.
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It's a hard institute. Captain. We'll get into that tomorrow. We're gonna go through, we're gonna go through Midway and we're gonna do it in detail. Thank you so much, sir. I'll see you tomorrow.
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Thank you.
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