
Episode 5463: Spearheading The Bill Pulte Nomination ...
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Katie Tur
Bill Pulte is a man on a mission. Just days into the job, the New York Times reports the new acting Director of National Intelligence, odny, could announce layoffs as early as today. The top Democrats on House and Senate intel committees have sent him a letter warning him against those cuts. Aside, though, from cutting jobs at odni, Boltz Pulte may be working on another task for President Donald Trump.
Legal Analyst
Well, let's talk about what legal recourse the employees have, because we've seen this movie before. Many of the employees of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence allegedly or theoretically have civil service protections and they could fight to get their jobs back. There are courts in this country that are allowing people to go forward with those kinds of lawsuits. Maureen Comey, former FBI Director Jim Comey's daughter, has a lawsuit like that that's currently ongoing here in Manhattan. But in other areas of the country, fired members of the civil service have not been allowed access to federal courts to do that. They've been told they have to direct their complaints to, to the Merit Systems Protection Board. That's a sort of byzantine administrative process that takes a very long time to get through, and that's by design. The reason that they are going ahead and firing some of these people is because they know that recourse, if any, is going to be a long time in coming.
Katie Tur
They say, we're concerned that your record as director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency demonstrates a willingness to misuse your position, including your access to sensitive information, to pursue President Trump's perceived political enemies and further his retributive political agenda. And on that note, there's Reuters reporting that White House officials delayed Leanne an ODNI report regarding the vulnerabilities on voting machines. Three sources telling them that that report did not go far enough on the big lie on Donald Trump's attempt to say that the election was stolen. It was not. Pulte is not somebody that has a lot of popularity, broadly speaking, within Congress. Does a. How, how broad, though, is the concern about what he might do with elections? Democrats are clearly worried about it. Are Republicans.
Political Commentator
So, yeah, Democrats have obviously worried about many things regarding this election. I haven't heard a lot of complaints from Republicans who are concerned about what he might do regarding the election. But separately and. But also related to Bill Pulte is fisa, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance act, which has been expired for almost two weeks now. And the Republicans and Democrats in the Senate were moving extremely expeditiously last week to confirm the new head of DNI Jay Clayton, so that Bill Pulte would never be in this position as acting. It was going to be a monumental feat and on track for him to be basically have a hearing and confirmed in a matter of days. But Donald Trump blew all of that up. And what Republicans on Capitol Hill think is the reason he did that is just because he wants Bill Pulte in there so bad to do his bidding, whatever that is regarding, whether it's regarding this report, whether it's regarding decimating odni, perhaps there's other things on the agenda too. So Republicans and Democrats both were going to bypass the president and make sure that Bill Pulte wasn't installed even in an acting capacity. And Donald Trump figured out a way to ensure that Jay Clayton didn't show up for his confirmation hearing, delayed that confirmation process. And here we are. So there are definitely Republican and Democratic concerns much more broadly about what is happening over there.
Katie Tur
This coincides almost to the day with the 10 year anniversary of Brexit.
UK Political Analyst
Yeah, yeah, it does. And there, you know, while Brexit doesn't explain the entirety of Keir Starmer's departure, it really is kind of the, the, the basis for helping you understand what has gone wrong in this country over a decade, according to people who live here who have become so frustrated with politicians. They were frustrated with conservative Tory politicians who were in power for 14 years. And they feel and felt like Keir Starmer didn't do a whole lot better to address the kind of economic stagnation that the country has faced, the higher prices that they deal with every day in their lives. In the sense that for a lot of folks, you know, the services.
Steve Bannon
Okay, this coloban is amazing. We're gonna go back to it, put a pin in it. But I got the Viceroy up. I've gotta go back. The war room production team in Denver, our team in Denver, Real America's voice. Thank you so much, Viceroy. I'm gonna go back to the co op in a minute, but the opening about Pulte was too good. I want to savor that and I make sure I savor it with you first. Katie Tur, all msnbc, the very mention of Pulte as a concept, right? Just as a concept. Their minds just. I've never seen a reaction like this to any one person. They just made a comment there that the Republicans and Democrats had come together in the Senate to have a workaround around Trump, to be able to go around Trump. Viceroy, you have been our man from the beginning of this second term. And you worked on it daily in the first term with Project 2025. And what you're doing at Article 3 to talk about the Article 2 powers of the president and the Commander in Chief, particularly when we're in a time of war. Are Katie Turr's guests and these guests over his embassy, are they correct? Can the Senate do a workaround and confront President Trump about this acting, about what he's done with this acting DNI
Mike Davis
head, sir, I love that President Trump put Bill Pulte in charge of the dni. Director of National Intelligence Bill Pulte is, as I always say, a bold and fearless warrior for the Constitution. He's a businessman. He's not a politician. He's not a creature of Washington, not a creature of the swamp. And he'll go in there and he'll rip apart that place for as long as President Trump needs Bill Pulte to rip apart that place. I would just say this is someone who used to confirm judges and Justice Department officials and others when I worked in the Senate. Even if they, even if the Senate confirms Jay Clayton as the next dni, President Trump does not have to sign his commission and swear him in until President Trump is ready. So they should feel. I don't think President Trump should wait to have Jay Clayton confirmed, have him confirmed, and then he can just hang out until Bill Pulte has gone through and broke, broken every piece of China in dni. And then when Bill Pulte is done breaking China, then Jay Clayton can get his commission handed to him, delivered and then sworn in. And then he can start.
Steve Bannon
What is this obsession they've got with warrantless FISA now and, and with Clayton and, and, and look, I think the confirmation process, the two things that Clayton ought to go through. Former as a managing. And by the way, Clayton is a, is a good guy. People know him. He did a great job sec the first time. But there are issues as managing director of Sutherland Cromwell, you've met a million foreign, you know, actors. You've got to go through all that. It's got to be vetted. Also, in addition, this, this situation with Alibaba when he left and became general counsel. Alibaba. Now Alibaba has been put on the, as we argue, the time it should have been on, I guess, the military technology list of, of China. And tomorrow morning, we're going to have a complete, total breakdown of all this, all these updates on the Chinese side. So we do want a formal full, you know, vetting of, of Clayton and confirmation so they can't Bitch and moan like they always do, that President Trump jam somebody in there. But President Trump, in his article, two powers has the power to say when the guy's confirmed to start the process, but also when he says, oh, come on over and I'm gonna swear you in.
Minnesota Political Figure
Correct.
Steve Bannon
That's still his. That's still his choice.
Mike Davis
Trump can wait as long as he wants to after Jay Clayton is confirmed. You have to, it's not just the confirmation. You have to deliver the commission and you have to swear in Marbury versus Madison. Right. So President Trump can keep Bill Pulte as the acting DNI as long as he wants it. And I love it. I mean, just look what Tulsi, what Tulsi was able to do on her last day as dni, expose the COVID fraud. That's that Tony Foushee created Covid and the Wuhan lab lied about it, covered up his lie. Trillions lost. Trillions in treasure lost. Millions of lives. Months of years, really, of our lives destroyed by Covid learning loss, particularly among poor black kids who Democrats pretend they care about. There is so much that needs to be exposed at the dni and Bill Pulte is the perfect man to do it.
Steve Bannon
They've already talked about the firings he's going to refer for criminal referrals or the doj, the people leaked at over at cnn. Okay, Washington Post majors, first off, tell people we're towards the end of the term of the Supreme Court. For those that have not been with us for years and had your, your tutoring on this. As we come to the end of June, the Supreme Court Normally takes off 90 days, take off July, August and September and come back in October. Very traditional. So we're winding down this term, which has been pretty historic. There's still a couple of three big decisions out there. And the Washington Post had a huge, had a huge article with the Viceroy as the centerpiece today to say even Trump's allies, and that would include War Room are a little jiggy about some of these decisions that are coming out, particularly on birthright citizenship. Walk me through the piece right as you're quoted in there, you didn't participate with it, but they pull quotes from War Room and from Article 3. What are they're trying to drive a wedge between us and they can't do that. But that being said, there's some legitimate concerns about what, what may come, sir?
Mike Davis
Well, the three big cases that are coming out, we have the birthright citizenship case, which I think is the most important case, and then there are two cases on whether the President of the United States has the article to power as the chief executive officer to fire executive branch officials like a Federal Reserve governor, Lisa Cook, and a Federal Trade Commission commissioner. And so those are, those are big cases about the separation powers. I worry that the Supreme Courts is going to rule the wrong way on birthright citizenship. Apparently we fought a civil war to give Birthright citizenship to 1.5 million Chinese birth tourists so they can come have their babies in America and then go back to Beijing and mail in their ballots from Beijing. I don't think that's what, what. I don't think that's what the proponents and the ratifiers and the American people thought that they were agreeing to with the 14th Amendments with the birthright citizenship provision. And I don't think that's what the American people in Congress thought they were agreeing to in 1940 when they passed a statute dealing with birthright citizenship. But I worry that the Supreme Court will not have the courage to follow the law in that case. And it's going to be. They're either going to rule that this 1940 somehow. 1940 statute somehow gave birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists and anyone else who happens to step foot in America and have a kid and or even worse, they could rule the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists apparently subject to the jurisdiction in the 14th Amendment doesn't have any meaning to the Supreme Court. Or they just want to, they just want to ignore that meeting because it's more politically.
Steve Bannon
Let's hold right there. Before we go to the article two issues of which you've got us trained up on. I want to go back to birthright says. Was it the presentation oral arguments? The question what, what makes Mike Davis think it may lean this way?
Mike Davis
I just, I, look, I, I just know the justices and I know which ones have the courage to follow the law and which ones doubts. And unfortunately, I don't think we have five justices on the Supreme Court who have the courage to follow the law in this case. Remember what birthright citizenship is. It was, this was part of the 14th Amendments after the Civil War, at the Civil War Amendments, 13th Amendment outlawed slavery. The 14th Amendment provided due process and equal protection to the, to the freed slaves. And the 15th amendment provided voting rights to the freed male slaves. That was extended to women with the 19th Amendment. But part of the birthright citizenship. Part of the 14th Amendment included the birthright citizenship provision because there was a Supreme Court ruling, the Dred Scott ruling, that said that the children of the, the children of the freed slaves were not citizens. And so we, we rightly corrected that with the birthright citizenship provision in the 14th Amendment. But remember it's you have birthright citizenship if you are born in America and subject to the jurisdiction of our laws. And so you have to ask this dispositive question. If American Indians did not have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendments, how the heck would illegal aliens. How would Chinese birth tours? How would the kids of trend? They simply do not. The birthright citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment has a distinct legal meaning. And I think the Supreme Court unfortunately is going to ignore that because it's politically expedient.
Steve Bannon
Hang on one second. The Viceroy, Mike Davis is with us. Short break.
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Mike Davis
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
Mike Davis. In those years in the wilderness, we were working to make sure that President Trump's second term understanding he would come back would be as powerful as possible. One of the things you specifically took on was to a redefinition really to Go back to the original concept of the framers of the article. Two powers of the commander in chief, the chief executive officer, and the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the United States government. That would be the President of these United States. Big, big, big rulings coming out in the, by the Supreme Court on, on this very topic. Can you walk us through it?
Mike Davis
Yeah. That was one of our first shows we did together, Steve, on a Saturday several years ago. We went through this in detail. But it's, it's this. There's. We have a Constitution which is a loan agreement between we the people, the sovereign citizens of America and our governments. And we loan our governments specific, enumerated and divided powers. And in this loan agreement, the federal government has the powers that we give it in this document and nothing more. And those powers are divided between Article 1, legislative power to Congress, Article 2, executive power to the President, and Article 3, judicial power to the Supreme Court and lower federal courts. And the article to power is, is a great power. That's why we have one president elected by all Americans with the executive power. And that's all executive power. That includes the power to hire and fire people and includes the power to make decisions. And if the president does not have the power to fire an executive branch official, whether it's a governor of the Federal Reserve or a commissioner on the Federal Trade Commission, then those agencies are unconstitutional. They're not set up constitutionally because Congress cannot take away the president's article to power via statutes. And so the Supreme Court is going to rule on those two cases, whether President Trump had the power to fire Lisa Cook as a governor of the, of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, and whether the president had the power to fire commissioners on the Federal Trade Commission.
Steve Bannon
Do you have a sense, given the oral arguments and the, and questions, et cetera, where do you think we're coming down on this?
Mike Davis
I think that the President Trump is clearly going to win the FTC case. The president should win the Lisa Cook case with the governor of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. It would be interesting if the Supreme Court ruled against President Trump on that. That would mean that we have a fourth branch of government called the Federal Reserve, which I don't remember seeing that in the, in the Constitution. So we'll see how this shakes out. I suspect Trump will win both of those cases with the ftc, an almost certain win.
Steve Bannon
Mike, you know, this morning, this is why I wanted to have you on talk about this today. This morning I talked about this with Malpest talking about Greenspan that the framers never specifically did not have a central bank in there. We had a huge fight. Hamilton started, remember, had a huge fight in the first one, General Jackson, President Jackson got rid of. The second one. We, from 18, I think 36 to 1913, there was no central bank, which also was the greatest time of prosperity in American history. But it seems like judicial supremacy because we're all, we're hanging on the Supreme Court decisions, judicial supremacy.
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Steve Bannon
the Federal Reserve being able to really control the currency has put two institutions that the framers never saw as being kind of overseeing either legislative branch or the executive power. So how are we going to sort this out, particularly on these rulings tomorrow? Let's say they go the wrong way. How are we going to get back to really the original intent of, of the framers, given this is our 250th year of the declaration of war against the British crown?
Mike Davis
Yeah, look, if the Supreme Court, for example, rules against birthright citizenship, rules that Chinese birth tourists have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment or a 1940 statute, we're going to be in a deep hole as a country because we, we have judges giving away our most sovereign, our most crucial sovereign power as we the people, which is control, controlling who comes and who goes in America and who becomes one of us. And we never agreed to give birthright citizenship to Chinese earth tourists. We never agreed to a Federal Reserve system in our Constitution. I think we need to get back to the basics as a country and we need to look at the Constitution as it's written and as it was intended. If the Federal Reserve is not mentioned in the Constitution, then it should not exist at the federal level. Remember, the federal government only has the power, powers that we the people give it in that loan agreement called the Constitution. And the federal government gets nothing more. The rest of it belongs to the states and we the people as confirmed by the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. So we, I hope these, these, these judges who President Trump put on the bench in the first term and he's putting on the bench in the second term, these judges who auditioned as textualist, as originalist, as constitutionalist, I hope that they actually follow through with how they campaign for their jobs.
Steve Bannon
So, Mike, last thing. And you taught us this, but, you know, it's kind of a Tale of Two Cities right now. I like your observations. Axios is just reporting. I want to read to you. Minnesota's top federal judge on Monday quashed several Trump administration subpoenas for immigration related records from Governor Tim Walsh and Minneapolis Mayor Fry and a dozen other state and local officials. The grand jury subpoenas issued when Operation Metro Surge was at its height were clearly meant to, quote, coerce Minnesota officials into assisting the federal government with enforcing civil immigration laws. Said the, said the federal judge. I mean, it's just there's two different federal court systems, one in sanctuary city blue states and the others in red states. How can we go on? I mean, my belief is that this is heading towards a constitutional crisis where you have two separate systems. I mean, here was something very basic. A grand jury issued these subpoenas and now we've had a federal judge said, no, Jacob Fry and Waltz are bulletproof on this, on even having to provide documents and information, sir.
Mike Davis
Now, this judge is a whack job and it's actually shameful. This is actually a George W. Bush appointed now granted with Democrat senators in Minnesota. So they had a veto over this guy. But I think this judge court for Justice Scalia, so he's not some lefty. But these judges, the longer they're on the bench, the more delusional they get, right? They actually think it's their job to protect the American people from our duly elected president. I mean, this, this whole mindset of this older generation of so called conservative lawyers and judges is ridiculous that we're going to protect these government officials from grand jury subpoenas when they're looking at the fact that these local Democrat officials are harboring illegal aliens in their state and they're obstructing federal immigration officials trying to carry out federal law. This judge is going to get reversed. The Trump Justice Department should seek immediate relief with the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals and if they have to go up to the emergency docket on the Supreme Court. But these narcissists in robes like this goofball judge in Minnesota need to understand that we have elections in this country and the American people elected President Trump to get illegal aliens the hell out of our country. And at these local Confederate officials in Minnesota want to obstruct that if they want to. If they want to have insurrection and seditious conspiracy to stop federal law enforcement officials from executing federal law, then they should be held accountable. These officials should be charged for obstructing federal law enforcement.
Steve Bannon
Mike, last thing. I believe the President's going up to Capitol Hill. He's going to the, he's going to attend the Republican conferences for senators on Wednesday. Whether that's at the White House or he goes up to Capitol Hill to talk to them. This is kind of the throwdown between the president and the conference, Republican conference about his legislative agenda and what he feels needs to be done between now and Election Day. Your thoughts
Mike Davis
again, We've talked about this a lot on your show. The Save America Acts has the support of over 80% of Americans, including a super majority of Democrats and even a super majority of minorities. You know those black voters who Democrats pretend do not have the wherewithal to get a voter ID like everyone else, when in reality they want their illegal immigrants to illegally vote for Democrats. That's, that's why they don't want to pass the Save America Act. If Senate Republicans, if John Thune cannot pass the Save America act with over 80% support, what the hell are they doing? They're at the wrong line of work and they should get out of the Senate if they can't pass a bill with 80% support.
Steve Bannon
Viceroy, where do people by the way, the article says that Gorsuch called you the General. I think we'll keep with the Viceroy. Let's associate justice courses. Keep with the general. Where do folks go to Article 3, sir, and how they find you on your always hot social media.
Mike Davis
Article3project that.org article number three project.org you can follow us on social media, donate, but only what you can afford. But again, the most important action item right now for the War Room Posse is to light up both of your home state senators and tell them to put the Save America act on President Trump's desk for his signature. And thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Mike, thank you. As soon as the Supreme Court rules, we'll be back to you. Thank you, brother.
Mike Davis
Appreciate you.
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John Gardner
Well, 48% of American manufacturers are five employees or less, 75% of American manufacturers are 20 employees or less. And 90% of American manufacturers are 50 employees or less. And they support the rest of the high end industry, the robotics and the automation, the bigger companies, the sub, they're the sub tier levels and they're very reliant on us because if we do one niche thing and there's not a lot of other people that do it, they rely on us. And so I'm passionate because a lot of these small companies are family owned and have been doing it for generations. And that's how, you know, that's the manufacturing ball game is generational decades, not the kind of quick financial engineering. So that's why I'm so passionate about it.
Steve Bannon
Steve, so what is I know President Trump and his team over at OMB and the team with Peter Navarro and some of the people over at the White House are working on things. When you talk to them, what are you, you're saying, hey, here's where I think you ought to prioritize, sir.
John Gardner
Well, so first of all, they're doing an amazing job and they're very receptive to what industry has to feed back to them. I was quite stunned by how open they are and they acknowledge, hey, we know what we don't know. And I thought that was so important to me. They're aware they're not manufacturing experts and they want our input and they're opening up lines of communication for that and that, I mean, two years ago when I Wrote my book to think that we'd have an administration in place where the Secretary of Commerce is asking industry people for their input and receiving it. And it's really cool. It was very, very touching, actually, and inspiring. And so that. That was kind of the thrust of it of today, was just basically, hey, you're welcome to give your input, and we will take it seriously. And that means the world to a lot of the manufacturing people that were there today. I didn't speak up personally because I wanted to say what I had to say for the war room and the audience here. One of the challenges, the biggest challenge everybody I talk to in industry, the biggest challenge that 90% of the industry faces, and I talk to them all day long, that's what I do all day, is deal with the 90% of the industry and machine shops that make metalworking parts. The biggest challenge we're facing is the price of materials. And there's a solution to this. And I believe the. I believe the Trump administration is on this. But what we're seeing on our end is the compression of time. You know, I look at a presidential term as four quarters of a football game, and we're in the middle of the second quarter. And to give you an example, a buddy of mine, his input to his material price for One part was 8% 10 months ago. Now it's 24%. And he said it's making his part unaffordable. To make. He needs three or four stainless to make this. Every input to a manufactured good in America has gone up. Copper has gone through the roof. I buy a lot of copper derivatives, aluminum especially. Now the naysayers want to blame the terrorists, but I say this is demand. There's so much demand. There's so much manufacturing activity going on. The ISM and PMI manufacturing is going through the roof. This is a good thing to have to see happening. But what it creates is we don't have enough capacity with the refining and smelting of steel, copper, and aluminum to bring the cost down for our manufacturers. So it's a good thing. Kind of a cart before the horse. And so that's the report from the trenches, Steve, up to the generals. And the solution that I propose has a historical foundation. During World War II. During World War II, we went from making 3,800 tanks in 1941 to 24,000 in 1942, 318 bombers, to nearly 3,000 bombers in 1942. This is all from Freedom's Forge and Arthur Herrmann. One of the coolest things, folks on raw material. This is a great story is Alcoa was America's sole aluminum producer in 1939. It created a monopoly. No competition. That's not capitalism. And so what the government did is they created the Defense Plant Corporation, it's called the dpc. And the government funded through and the capital engine for this was the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the rfc. And they used a GO Co model, government owned, contractor operated. And within the contracts was the government's going to break ground on this and they're going to use money with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation that's backed by citizen bonds, war bonds and a taxpayer dollar. And the government is going to break ground and use the Army Corps of Engineer and create these plants. And we're going to lease them to private contractors with the clause in the contracts that they will be sold at the end of the war to the private contractors. And what this is broke up Alcoa's aluminum monopoly. And up From World War II till 2000, America produced about 40% of the world's aluminum. After that, now we produce about 2% of the world's aluminum, meaning we have a raw material problem. And so the solution is not, was not a free market accident and it was not a state Soviet takeover of industry. It was the American system at work, government investment. And I believe we can do this if we deploy the Defense Production act, the Army Corps of Engineers on federal land to bypass permitting and we use the national emergency that President Trump has already declared with IA and start to deploy that to break ground, build facilities and lease them to private contractors, build steel aluminum refineries and copper refineries to bring the cost of raw materials down. Because from what I'm seeing is we don't have much copper refineries being built, not much aluminum refineries being built to bring the prices down for the producers. So I think there's a lot of things in the works.
Steve Bannon
Can we restore ourselves as a manufacturing superpower? If those building blocks. I know the President and Scott Besant and Jamison Greer and Peter Navarro are fighting every day on this rare earth situation, but can we return as a manufacturing superpower if we don't do these couple of things you're talking about.
John Gardner
If U.S. manufacturers, 90% of the manufacturing street don't get our inputs lower quickly, it creates a problem. I always believe in America and I always believe we'll become the manufacturing superpower of the world again. But it makes it a lot harder when I have a question for the administration. President Trump's a businessman. Secretary Lutnick is a businessman. And what would they do if their cost of running their business, their cost of doing business went up three to five times? That's what I'm seeing in my business for their raw material inputs. As a businessman, what would you do? And that's the dilemma we're being put in. A guy, Jerry, he runs a company called Performance Carbide, he's taking in Iowa. He builds tungsten carbide, cutting things for a John Deere reapers to cut crops down. He's taking out of his retirement funds to purchase tungsten carbide because the price of tungsten carbide has gone up 4 to 5, 4 to 5 times 4 to 5x. So that's the challenges we're facing. But I really believe that there's a lot of solutions in the works.
Steve Bannon
President Trump's going to be at Mack Trucks tomorrow in Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We're going to cover that here on the warm, real America's Voice. What would you like? Give me a minute on what you would like President Trump to tell the workers at the back truck facility.
John Gardner
Sir, I'd like President Trump to say he's only going to endorse people for the midterms that promise they will support his tariff agendas. And that's one thing I would like him to commit to. And then I would also like to tell them that the administration is aware of the challenges that we have before us to return manufacturing here. And there's a lot of things in the works to come help them and to keep believing and keep fighting hard and to keep voting for America first, an America first administration, because they're doing it. They bit off a massive undertaking after five decades of massive. And so I see the work they're doing. It was very inspiring today.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. For all those guys are taking shots at President Trump all the time. Hey, if you didn't have Donald Trump in 16 and then coming back, you wouldn't have a country. It's far from perfect. You would not have a country. The globalists were totally in charge and now we got the oligarchs. We got to fight, fight, fight. But President Trump saved this country, full stop. John Gardner, where do people go to get you your writings? You're on top of this about bringing manufacturing back here, the United States, and making it robust and vital.
John Gardner
JohnGardnerAuthor.com is my website and on X get her and Instagram, John Gardner. Vohngardnervoh.
Steve Bannon
John, thank you. Glad you came back and went to the conference and glad you got A great report from the front lines. You know, it's interesting what John said and something I've, you know, kind of looked at. But the endorsements for these candidates, a absolute basic commitment should be on these candidates to be 150% in on President Trump's tariffs. The tariffs are the central beating heart. President Trump calls himself T man, right? T man. Tariffs are his thing. Terrorists at the central part of the. This is what Navarro, when Navarro brought on the campaign back in 15. This is why Jameson Greer has done such a great job. This is why Scott Besant has worked up, you know, this program. Tariffs are key. And if you're going to give, if you're going to give endorsements, the endorsee has to be body and soul committed to President Trump's tariff program. I mean, that can't even be a question. This is the central beating heart of President Trump's economic plan. Return using tariffs. Either two things. Use it as a forcing function to force people to build their plant and equipment over here, or if they're not going to do that, they would pay a fee that would go to compensate and make sure that we had plenty of cash to pay down our debt.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, Comstock's on. Comstock, you're not a, you're a manufacturing company, but you don't bend steel, right? You're not, you're not forging iron or extracting plastics, but you're an American manufacturer. Are all of your manufacturing done here in the United States of America, sir?
Trevor Comstock
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I mean, to your point, we have two facilities, one in Ohio, one in Idaho. All the creams, the Tyler Moisturizer as well as the sacred Healing salve is handmade in Idaho. But also going off that, that's kind of why we got our start in the first place, where we just saw all these companies were outsourcing all their manufacturing overseas, usually the China, where the quality control can be pretty questionable. So we wanted to create a company where all the products are not only made within the usa. So use ingredients that we trust. And then to take it a step further, we also third party lab test all of our products. So that's always our promise. And then of course, we try to provide these products at a reasonable price as well and not overprice it just to make money off it.
Steve Bannon
How do you juggle that? Because people tell me, hang on, everybody says, oh, you can't make in the USA because it's just too expensive and you have to charge prices people can't afford. But you're the opposite. And I Could see that reading the comments on your site. Your prices are reasonable, people love them, the reviews are incredible. Just real quickly, how can you do it in the United States? When I hear everybody say you can't do it, you gotta send it to South America or China or South Asia. Why is sacred human health with particularly all the products you think, you think, hey, these guys be manufacturing all over the world. Why do you manufacture and how can you pull it off here in the good old United States?
Trevor Comstock
Yeah, so you know, it's basically we do take a hit on the margins for sure. At the end of the day, you know, we're not just in this for money by any means. We actually want to provide people with healthy products to better their lives. And if we did outsource the production overseas, obviously we would probably make a lot more money. But that was never our goal to begin with and we always just want to create a company that actually backs up what they're saying. So to your point, it is more expensive, 100% to produce everything right here in the USA, but it's a, you know, a risk and a hit that we're willing to take just to make sure that we give people the best possible.
Steve Bannon
Essentially you keep, you keep the prices reasonable, you just take the margin hit. But you figure, hey, correct, you got great customers, they love it, they love the fact it's made in America and we're going to make more money over the long term. So we want a customer base that knows we're dedicated to manufacturing and folks having good jobs and good paying jobs here in the United States. And it's amazing, Trevor, it's one of the reasons I love being associated with you guys. If they go to the website today, what product are you highlighting?
Trevor Comstock
Yeah, so I was going to just touch on our organic beetroot product which is one of our newer products just because we got a lot of questions around it. It's been super popular, which I'm very happy about, but it's just a product designed to support heart health, healthy circulation and overall cardiovascular wellness. So you know, in short, if you are focused on supporting, like I said, a healthy heart, healthy blood flow, circulation as well as cardiovascular health, it's a product designed specifically for that and, and just also just supporting your energy and wellness overall. So like I said, it's been super popular and as always, if you do have any questions around it, you can always just send us an email and we'll get back to you as soon as we can.
Steve Bannon
One more time where they go, I know Just read the reviews. Don't take it from Trevor Comstock. Don't take it from Steve Bannon. Take it from your own compadres. Just read it and then go ask all the questions and get right to Trevor where they go right now. Trevor Comstock yeah.
Trevor Comstock
So you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com or you can just type in sacredhuman to Google will come up and then you can always use code war room for 10% off any order. And like I said, just let us know if you have any questions.
Steve Bannon
Trevor, you're extraordinary executive founder, inspiration leader over there and it's just extraordinary the way you've built this business. It's amazing. Thank you so much. Glad to be associated with you guys.
Trevor Comstock
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
We talked about from day one he says look, we make a lot more money if we ship it overseas but we can provide a lot of well paying jobs here and make sure that we have quality control. There can be no excuses. We can be on top of this. They've had an extraordinary run. Extraordinary. This is why they're not cranking out new products all the time. Very by the kind of handcrafting these products and it's all American manufactured under their eagle eye. Mike Lindell, Talk about a great American company. Mike Lindell, you're on quite a roll. I know the Sun's doing a lot but you're still overseeing but your son's there and the whole team, they're doing great. I want to talk about these deals but brother, you have set Minnesota on fire right now. Federal judge just came back today and said a grand jury subpoena to get the information from Jacob Fry and from Walls about their obstructing the enforcement immigration laws is squash. We had Mike Davis here to start it now that's going to get reversed in the Justice Department there but it shows you everything in Minnesota you're fighting against is cray cray, right? It's this cray cray, sir.
Minnesota Political Figure
Yeah, absolutely. I've said it before. You know, we were the Trojan horse for so many things in Minnesota including the Sharia law, the Muslims practicing Islam and and right now this fraud, you guys, the biggest blessing we've ever had in Minnesota because it's opened so many doors now and then even having Waltz run as vice president it got to show the rest of the country what we are up against here, what kind of person he is, what kind of governor he he was and still is, I guess. And they but yeah, all the corruption here, this is why we have an opportunity. We haven't had Minnesota for decades. We've literally been blue since 1972. But people need to hear the hope now. And the hope is we can turn this around and win and save Minnesota. We're just, I mean, you go back, I was born and raised here in Minnesota. It's the greatest state. So many great people. And what's come in here is just pure evil that's running our state. And when you have a governor that puts a satanic statue in the capitol and he said we have to be fair. Fair to the devil. Give me a break. I mean this is what we're up against. But I'll tell you, Steve, I'll tell you, with everything going on, I'm just so happy we've gotten this far to be able to fight this and go through and win and be the next governor of Minnesota. And it's been because of the war room posse. You guys have played a big part of that supporting my employee owned company. And we are made in the usa. You're talking about that today. All of our made in the USA products we have on sale, they're the lowest price in history from our body pillows, our bed pillows. You have the MyPillow premiums. Where it all started, you guys. When we're celebrating 250 years. The MyPillow premium, the king size only 1998. The lowest price in the history of MyPillow queen size 1898. We have our mattresses and mattress toppers. 50% off. Use that promo code war room. Go to mypillow.com war room. We have over 40 new products on there. You guys can get the biggest discounts in the country and wait on it. Free shipping on your entire order. That's on myself and my employees. We're paying your shipping. Use promo code war room. Call 800-873-1062 and give them that promo. We get that free shipping right to your front door.
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Thank you, brother. See you tomorrow. Stick around. Obama's library in the withholding of information. Next in the war room.
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Date: June 23, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Key Guests: Mike Davis, John Gardner, Trevor Comstock, (various others as commentators/analysts)
This episode centers on the controversial nomination of Bill Pulte as acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI), the wider implications for Trump-era executive authority, and the battles over manufacturing, Supreme Court decisions, and the ongoing left-right divide in American politics. Steve Bannon and his guests unpack the motivations behind the Pulte appointment, Supreme Court term expectations, manufacturing revival strategies, and current legal-political standoffs. The undertone is combative and nationalist, with Bannon's signature urgency and directness.
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00-04:00 | Pulte's appointment, media and congressional reactions | | 06:13-09:44 | Mike Davis on Article II powers, firing authority, and the DNI | | 10:58-14:50 | Birthright citizenship case preview and Davis’s legal concerns | | 17:29-21:09 | Article II, Supreme Court, and separation of powers | | 22:56-26:24 | “Two court systems,” legal standoff in Minnesota | | 32:24-41:03 | John Gardner on manufacturing, small business, raw material strategy| | 41:45-43:13 | Bannon’s case for tariffs as central to Trump’s plan | | 46:00-50:12 | Trevor Comstock (Sacred Human Health) on Made in America | | 51:18-53:46 | Mike Lindell on Minnesota politics and MyPillow |
Episode 5463 spotlights the aggressive maneuvers behind the Pulte DNI nomination as a microcosm of the accelerating executive vs. legislative war under Trump’s leadership. Bannon and legal expert Mike Davis both assert the supremacy of Article II presidential powers, warn against judicial and legislative overreach, and urge urgent action on birthright citizenship and manufacturing revival. Real-world perspectives from John Gardner and Trevor Comstock ground the conversation in economic realities, while the show presses its audience to stay mobilized and vocal.
Stay tuned for analysis of the Supreme Court’s forthcoming decisions and continued “America 250” coverage.