Episode 5466: Prioritizing Free And Fair Elections; Why they Fear Bill Pulte

Summary

War Room: Episode 5466 — Prioritizing Free And Fair Elections; Why They Fear Bill Pulte

Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Senator Bernie Moreno (OH), Senator Tommy Tuberville (AL), Sarah Carter, Jonathan Swan, John Solomon, Mike Lindell

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Brief Overview

This episode focuses on two primary topics:

1. The urgency of ensuring free and fair elections in the United States, with discussion of the proposed Save America Act and comparisons to foreign election systems.
2. The controversy and political fallout surrounding the appointment of Bill Pulte as acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI), the internal war over downsizing the intelligence community, and the backlash from both parties and press.

Bannon and guests provide “on-the-ground” populist analysis, punctuated with pointed critiques of both Democrats and elements within the Republican establishment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Free and Fair Elections: The Save America Act

• Need for Election Integrity:

  • Senator Bernie Moreno emphasizes that the populist, MAGA base is frustrated with Republican leadership’s inability to fulfill promises, especially on election integrity.
  • Moreno: “Nothing moves the needle more with our voters than having election integrity. Passing the Save America act is essential. This is an 80-20 issue … why can't you guys get done things that 80% of Americans want to do?” (03:05)

• Comparison to Colombia’s Election System:

  • Moreno shares how Colombia, with fewer resources, executed a flawless, audited election with paper ballots, voter ID, no mail-in ballots, and full results within an hour of polls closing.
  • “It’s an embarrassment for the United States … in Colombia, if you don’t have proof of citizenship, you aren’t allowed in... all paper ballots ... audited ... audit was off by .0003%” (06:49)

• Senate Leadership Logjam:

  • Both Bannon and Moreno dissect Senate Republican reluctance to back President Trump’s election reforms, citing the filibuster and institutional inertia.
  • Moreno: “There's an idea that those [campaign promises] are just things you say … What President Trump taught Republicans: No, that's not how it works. You keep your promises.” (03:05)

• Public Pressure as Leverage:

  • With legislative avenues limited, Moreno advocates for building public awareness to pressure waffling senators and force Democrats to vote on record for or against common-sense reforms.
  • “Make them vote on that, put them on the record ... Public pressure for common sense to win.” (11:26)

• Critical Senate Lunch with President Trump:

  • Bannon and both senators discuss a historic closed-door meeting, with Trump expected to demand accountability and unity from GOP senators.
  • Tuberville: “I would just hope that the president would come in and slam the door … ‘Save America Act. I want to see the hands of who’s against it.’” (35:31)

2. The Bill Pulte DNI Controversy

• Mass Firings and Deep State Showdown:

  • Sarah Carter and panel describe confusion and concern after Bill Pulte, seen as a Trump loyalist with no intelligence background, quickly carried out mass firings at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
  • “He showed up on the job even before his position began, asked for lists of employees ... caught DNI Tulsi Gabbard off guard … All of this in service of what President Trump hopes him to do.” (16:51)

• Allegations of Political Retaliation:

  • There are concerns these firings purge perceived Trump enemies, given Pulte's prior use of federal housing data for political purposes.
  • “With Mr. Pulte’s history … raises that prospect … if it's not being done for a political purpose, which it might be, the other prospect is just sheer incompetence.” (21:39)

• Pushback on Traditional Norms:

  • Jonathan Swan discusses the breakdown of the post-Watergate concept of DOJ and intelligence independence from the White House.
  • “As a matter of prudence … DOJ operates independently … Do you really want the President saying, that guy I hate, I want you to investigate?” (18:25)

• Is Downsizing a CIA Power-Grab?

  • Bannon warns that reducing ODNI could enable CIA dominance (what he calls “CIA supremacism”), not the dismantling of the Deep State.
  • “They want the CIA to be supreme in all things ... driven by the CIA and Tom Cotton … not to go after the deep state, but to empower it.” (24:08)

• Tuberville’s Support for Pulte:

  • Tuberville defends Pulte as a necessary bulldog and calls for similar cuts at the CIA and Fed. He calls Trump’s selections bold and overdue.
  • “Bill Pulte, his nickname should be the bulldog ... he’ll do exactly what President Trump asked ... this place—DNI—is out of control.” (30:52)

• Call for Accountability on Fauci & Obama:

  • Tuberville urges pursuit of prosecutions for Anthony Fauci, Obama, and other officials, decrying lack of accountability for “crimes.”
  • “Let’s go after him on the state level. You can’t get a pardon for that. He’s a crook. Obama’s a crook. All these people broke the law. Let’s put him in jail.” (33:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon’s Opening Salvo:

  • “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.” (00:02)

• Election Comparison:

  • Moreno: “Colombia called the presidential election race in one hour. They haven't told us who won in LA yet from three weeks ago. This is totally absurd.” (07:23)

• On Public Sentiment:

  • Tuberville: “They're not just disgusted, they're mad as hell ... even in Alabama, they're losing patience.” (39:27)

• On Senate Accountability:

  • Tuberville: “I want to see the hands of who's against [the Save America Act]. And if you're against it, give us your ideas of why you're against it.” (35:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:53] – [14:15]: Stephen Bannon & Senator Bernie Moreno discuss Senate logjam, populist frustration, Colombia’s election system, and Save America Act.
• [16:43] – [23:25]: Sarah Carter, Jonathan Swan, and panel on Bill Pulte’s appointment, mass firings at DNI, and fears of politicization/purge.
• [24:08] – [28:42]: Bannon explains the battle behind ODNI downsizing, CIA supremacy, and the “deep state.”
• [30:07] – [43:54]: Bannon & Senator Tommy Tuberville on Pulte, agency downsizing, CIA, holding Fauci and others accountable, and the historic Senate lunch with Trump.
• [50:25] – [51:54]: Mike Lindell on his campaign, media bias, and election reform in Minnesota.

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Additional Highlights

Grassroots Fatigue & The Stakes

• Bannon repeatedly warns that the MAGA grassroots are losing enthusiasm due to perceived GOP obstruction and failure on core issues, especially election security.

  “We can win this, we can win it all. But it’s a lack of enthusiasm ... they see people up there not supporting the President. And the key to that is the Save America Act.” (41:20)

The War on “Establishment” Republicans

• Tuberville and Moreno both hammer fellow Republican senators for treating Trump as a lame duck, with Tuberville suggesting it’s time for reckoning and exposure.
• Tuberville: “Let's talk about [the Save America Act]. We need a discussion about that. … 15 people. Good. One at a time. Tell me why you're against it … if we don't get control by busting the filibuster, it will be over." (35:31)

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Conclusion

This episode underscores the War Room’s focus on fighting establishment inertia, prioritizing election integrity, and deploying loyalists (like Bill Pulte) to overhaul powerful bureaucracies. The tone is combative, populist, and urgent, marked by frequent frustration with both Democrat and Republican establishments and a call for public pressure to force institutional change.

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For further engagement:

• Senator Bernie Moreno on X: @BernieMoreno (13:31)
• Senator Tommy Tuberville: @Coach4Gov (43:48)

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Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Sarah Carter]

And where do people like that go

[Stephen K. Bannon]

to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

Ask yourself, what is my task and

what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

[Sarah Carter]

country, this country will be saved.

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

War ROOM here's your host, STEPHEN K. Band.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's Tuesday, the 23rd of June, in the year of our Lord 2026. We're honored to have Senator Bernie Marino joins us from the great state of Ohio. Senator, you're known up on Capitol Hill as being one of the strongest supporters of the President, United States, and one of the leading voices, populist, nationalist voices in the Senate, a leader of the MAGA movement. Can you explain to the audience, is it, I take it the President's in Ohio at a Mack truck factory? Today is tomorrow. Is he coming up to the Senate to meet with the conference, or are you senators going down to the White House? Do you have the logistics worked out yet?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Yeah. So he's coming up to the Capitol to have lunch with my colleagues and I, 53 of us, to basically do what he does best, which is, hey, I heard you guys have some concerns. I'm here, what are your concerns? And hash it out. You know, there's a lot of conversations about, does the President make clear what his goals are? Is he somebody you can get a hold of? And Steve, nobody knows better than you this is the most accessible president ever. And if you have a question, call him and ask him. And so this nonsense where, you know, the President doesn't listen is totally outrageous.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So this way, I think the MAGA base and the leadership that watch this show are having a tough time understanding the President's gone out of his way to lay out the legislative agenda, what he feels is necessary to codify the executive orders he's doing. He's got a number of great voices in the Senate like yourself, that have reiterated that, but we're at a logjam. And it seems like leadership oftentimes is treating the President almost like a lame duck. And I think it's that gap that people don't, they can't they can't get their mind around it, particularly given that you. And we're going to have Senator Tuberville on here in a moment. And so many of the fire breathers up there for MAGA support the president. Understand, hey, the Save America act is absolutely essential if we want to stop the state of elections, particularly what we just saw in Los Angeles with Spencer Pratt. So can you help us just think through what is the established order in the Senate on the Republican side?

What is that gap?

What don't they understand of what President Trump's been saying?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, I think what's missing is lack of appreciation of why we all got elected. I went for two years at every corner of Ohio. I made promises to those voters. My job here for the six years that I'll be here is to fulfill those promises. I think sometimes there's an idea that, oh, those are just things you say on the campaign trail. What President Trump taught Republicans. No, that's not how it works. You keep your promises, especially the promises for the things that moved the needle. Nothing moves the needle more with our voters than having election integrity. We have to. All Democrat and Republican, believe in the faith and confidence in our elections. And passing the Save America act is essential. This is an 8020 issue and the feeling is, well, why can't you guys get done things that 80% of Americans want to do and we have to push and fight like heck? Because that's also what President Trump taught us.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now, institutionally, they're saying, hey, there's some institutional structures, particularly the system of filibuster we've set up, and there are ways around that if you're prepared to take action. I mean, Thune's not wrong in saying he doesn't have the 60 votes that would break cloture.

[Mike Lindell]

Correct.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I mean, he's correct on that. What are the alternatives available you believe are available and support prepared to support the president to actually get to the end game of having the Save America act actually passed and signed by the president?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, he is, Senator Thune is right about that. We probably only have 40 votes to get rid of the filibuster. There's a lot of my colleagues that have been here a while and harken back to a day where we had normal Democrats that we had to work with. These are not normal Democrats. These are absolutely far left extremists that only when it's convenient for them talk like normal Americans. But fundamentally, they want to destroy this country. So you, you can hearken back to a tradition that existed, but you need cooperation on the other side. There's really not much that can be done if you don't have the 60 votes, other than some tools of reconciliation. But we have something in mind, Steve, which is very simple. We have to build public pressure and public support. So how do we do that? I was just in Columbia, South America, Steve, where they conducted an election with record turnout, record voter participation, all with paper ballots, voter id, proof of citizenship, no mail in, balloting. In an hour after the polls closed, we knew who won. And as somebody born in Columbia, South America, that feels that the greatest gift I've ever gotten in my life was to be a United States citizen and be able to live the American dream is a disgrace that we have states like California that have to look to countries like the Colombia and say, wow, they do it exponentially better and show that and highlight that. So I'm hoping to get Gavin Newsom here and have him testify before the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations and show him and shame him. All we have to do is build enough public pressure for common sense to win. And I will never give up on ensuring that we have free and safe elections in this country.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Talk to us about how monumental this election in Colombia was, about where the for hemispheric security for Latin America and for showing how election. When you're saying Colombia can show the United States how elections should be run, that is such an incredible statement. So walk us through the elections and what happened. How has it counted so quickly and the winner is the victor down there? It's going to be extraordinary for Colombia and for the Colombian people.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, first, let me just say again, it's an embarrassment for the United States of America to have to look to a country like Colombia that's a dot of our size that has dramatic, radically less resources, much more poverty, much more racial diversity. For them to show us how to run an election is a disgrace to this country, an embarrassment. It's an embarrassment to people like Newsom and others who push election fraud in terms of how the election run. Steve, it's an amazing thing to watch. It's what all of us have been talking about. You have to have proof of citizenship. If you don't have that with you, you aren't even allowed into the chamber, the hall where you go to vote. It's all paper ballots. It's one day, no mail in balloting. They even in some places where they suspect there's fraud, have biometrics, and when you sign for your ballot, you also get fingerprinted and they verify that it's you through biometric data. I mean, think about how different that is than what we have here in the US and it's all paper. They hand count it and they audit the results. In fact, breaking news. They literally just sent me the results of the audited number and it was off from the paper count to the audit account was off by.0003%. Think about that. And by the time it got, you could take a flight from D.C. to New York. Polls close. By the time you got to New York, Steve, the election results were out there and done. We called Columbia, called the presidential election race in one hour. They haven't told us who won in LA yet from three weeks ago. This is totally absurd.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tomorrow, being an ally of the President, he's going to go up there. What would you like to see the outcome of that? Because I keep saying we're going to lose the Senate if the MAGA base doesn't get fired up. And right now they see as being obstructionist. I mean, there's heroes like you, but they see obstructionists. But what outcome, as a ally to the President in the Senate are you looking for at the end of that lunch tomorrow?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Look, he's the persuader in chief. He's got to make the case, which he does. It's very simple. He will remind everybody in that room that every single Republican in that room campaigned on a set of ideas, and we should all be united on fulfilling those set of ideas. That means make life better for working Americans. Not having endless wars, having engagement, deep engagement with our hemisphere to make certain that we crack down an illegal migration in these transnational criminal organizations. And look, I think ultimately what we will discuss tomorrow is what's the path forward? Because you're exactly right, Steve. If our voters look at us and say, if you're unable to do the things that you said you're going to do, why should we vote for you now? Of course, that's what the Democrat, the Democrats want. The Democrats want our base to be demoralized. So we have to make certain that we show that we're willing to fight. I think our base would understand actually if we weren't able to do the things that they wanted. Maybe one or two things, but they can't see us giving up, Steve. They got to see that we're in the fight every single day, pushing back at the Democrat. Nonsense. I just came from a banking hearing in which they were saying that President Trump says that affordability is a hoax. I explained that the actual definition of a hoax is deception. And we have oil prices that are lower, egg prices that are lower, prescription prices that are lower, car prices that are lower. It's actually deception for people who supported Biden and the Democrats to say that we caused the affordability problem, we're fixing it. So you got to punch back at these guys. You know, I had one of my colleagues say that eggs is $7 a dozen. I'm like, we need to send the police to that, to that grocery store because eggs are $2.19 a dozen, but they're so out of touch. Now, maybe the eggs that she gets are from manicured chickens that get massaged and roam freely in somebody's mansion. But working Americans, they pay $2.19 for a dozen eggs versus $2.50 under Biden.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Save America. Do you believe there's an alternative to attach it to must piece legislation? That's, that's got to come up. Not just, you know, we're against the warrantless FISA, but FISA's got to be dealt with somehow. I think you've got, still got the National Defense Authorization Act. You got so many things up there that are must pass right now. Can you attach. Do you believe that the leadership in the Senate, after discussion with the President, because he's coming as a deal guy saying, hey, we got to get this done. Let's reason together on this. Do you see opportunities in attaching it to must piece parts of legislation?

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Well, on the FISA one, my concern is that that's a different coalition that supports the Save America act in terms of that being effective. I'm not sure on that one yet. I'd like to hear the case on that. I'm worried about that. I think the best approach is to build the pressure, highlight that, have people talk about it and say, Steve, why can Colombia, South America, a country with a GDP less than Los Angeles, can count 26 million votes with record turnout and have a free and fair election with the things that we're asking for. But yet California says it's racist. Why is it? Why, why do Hispanics in America are unable to get a I.D. but yet in Colombia, where they're 100% Hispanic, can't see that problem where they have it. So just building that public pressure, I think we need to take one thing at a time. Should you have proof of citizenship when you register? I think most Americans say, my God, of course, make them vote on that, Put them on the record and then put them on the record on voter ID and then put them on the record of the other elements that The President wants. I think ultimately this election is going to come down to the Democrats are just not in the mainstream of America. Steve, you know this. You and I lived in a time and place where there were normal Democrats, people who fought for working Americans. The problem is that when you led an effort with President Trump to take that idea away from them, that we Republicans actually are the ones that fight for working Americans, they had nothing. So what did they do? They went for transgenderism, climate extremism, open borders, things that 90% of Americans do not support. And things like voter ID got lost in the translation because again, most normal people think that you should have to prove you're a citizen and you should have to prove who you are to vote. It's common sense.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Huge meeting tomorrow, Senator. We'll check in with you and your folks after the historic meeting. President's coming to the Capitol to have lunch with the Senate and talk about, hey, guys, you know, we get the midterms coming up. We got to figure this out. We got to work together. Senator, what's your. Where do people go on your social media? What's your coordinates to get to your website and learn more about you?

[Mike Lindell]

Yeah.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Follow me on X. Bernie Marino. B E R N I E M O R E N O We have a lot of great content there. Please follow me. And I appreciate, Steve, everything that you do. You know, you have been a warrior through thick and thin. This period of time reminds me of the early 2020, 23 time frame when the rats abandoned the ship, and then now they came back and said, well, when we said we didn't want you, it turns out we really did. And I think people have underestimated President Trump. Don't underestimate President Trump. He has the support of Republicans because they know he keeps his promises.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Senator, you've been with us from the beginning. Glad to see you there. And it's great to see you're one of the big fighters in the Senate for the president and the MAGA movement. Appreciate you coming on today.

[Senator Bernie Moreno]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Sarah Carter]

What do you know about the firings, how many there are, and any reaction from the White House?

Right. The scale of the firings at this point is still unknown, although we are getting a better picture of where within the DNI some of these terminations are happening. We understand that the National Counterterrorism center and the National Counterintelligence and Security Security center are among the offices that will be hardest hit, which I think is going to cause a measure of concern given not only the geopolitical situation with Iran, but also these large events that are set to take place over the next couple of weeks, including the World cup, the America 250 celebrations, and so clearly Bill Pulte coming into this job knowing exactly what President Trump wants him to do in this position, despite these concerns that you hear from certainly Democrats, but also Some Republicans that this is an ally with no national security experience who has used his current job to go after the president's perceived enemies. Now, it was clear that he has been very eager to get started. As you mentioned, he showed up on the job even before his position began, asked for lists of employees that actually caught the incumbent, DNI Tulsi Gabbard, off guard. All of this, I think, in service of what President Trump hopes him to do, hopes he will do in this position. He had made that explicitly clear.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Trump getting frustrated. Todd Blanche wanted to make Letitia James life miserable that he wanted to go after. In very colorful language, Jerome Powell, talk us about how we've never seen a president use the levers of government for his own personal agenda to carry out revenge.

[Jonathan Swan]

So Watergate happens, and after Watergate, there is a societal decision that we need to put in some reforms, and that as a matter of prudence, not as a matter of law. It makes sense that the Justice Department operates independently from the White House when it comes to investigations. And again, what these guys will say is, well, the Constitution says they report the President. Of course, that's, that's technically true as a matter of prudence and as a matter of the country. Do you really want the President of the United States saying, that guy, that guy that I hate, I want you to investigate?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's literally what's happening.

[Jonathan Swan]

Of course.

[Kevin Warsh]

Well, as Kevin mentioned, this idea of shrinking or downsizing ODNI has long been a bipartisan sort of goal. Over the years, the Senate Intelligence Committee has debated it very extensively behind closed doors. However, there hasn't been a bipartisan agreement to actually get that done and get that enacted into law. Now, what Republicans or Republican leaders at least want from the President is for him to stop blocking his permanent nominee, Jay Clayton, of course, from appearing for his confirmation hearing, which you'll recall last week, the President abruptly, in the middle of the night, caught every Senate Republican leader off guard, blindsided them by ordering Jay Clayton not to appear for his own confirmation hearing. And as a result, FISA section 702, that warrantless surveillance authority is still in limbo, has been dark since the night of June 12th. And frankly, if this stalemate continues past this week, it looks like 702 will be dark well into into July.

[Sarah Carter]

Tulsi Gabbard had already cut about 40% of the office. The concern is who is doing the cutting and how he's going about it. And just yesterday, two Democrats, the top Democrats on the House and Senate Intelligence Committee, wrote to Pulte with Their concerns. They said, given your lack of experience within the intelligence community, it is difficult to imagine that in such a short amount of time, you have already developed fully informed views as how to shrink ODNI without incurring risks to national security. They go on to say, making significant structural changes to ODNI to include a reduction in force is not an appropriate course of action for. For anyone in an acting capacity, let alone without consultation with Congress, and you should refrain from doing so. Clearly, Pulte not heeding that advice. Now, Trump has said that he does not want Pulte to serve in this job permanently. But just last week, he pulled back his own nominee for the permanent position, which essentially ensures that Pulte will be in this job for at least some amount of time, allowing him to. To carry out the President's objectives.

Sarah, because this is the same person that the president sort of uses an attack dog in the housing job that he's in to go after some of President Trump's perceived enemies. Do you think that the people that he's cutting after getting this list have something to do with, you know, displeasing the president? Is that how it at least seems?

Well, we don't know because they haven't made any disclosures about who is being cut or what sort of functions are being trimmed back. But certainly with Mr. Mr. Pulte's history of using the data that he had access to as the kind of federal housing czar to go after the president's political enemies, that raises that prospect that you mentioned very clearly. Is it possible that these. These cuts in staff are really directed at people who the President perceives or House perceives as being disloyal? On a broader level, it raises the very basic question of how does Bill Pulte know who to fire? This is a guy with no intelligence experience, never been in the military, never been in law enforcement, never been associated with any of the 18 agencies that he now oversees. This is a guy who came in on his first day last Friday and had to ask what sort of clearance might he be given? So clearly doesn't have any appreciation for the significance and the sensitivity of the information that he's going to be exposed to. How would someone with that lack of background know which programs and people to cut? So if it's not being done for a political purpose, which it might be, the other prospect is just sheer incompetence.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Who is getting fired?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

How many are getting fired?

[Sarah Carter]

Have you gotten any word on this?

[John Solomon]

No, it's a mystery. Obviously, someone had compiled A list, I think, frankly, for political purposes. And Pulte was supposed to execute the plan. Remember, the President resurrected his nomination in the middle of the night when he's flying back from Europe. He was determined, the president was determined to put Mr. Polti in this position because he follows orders.

[Jonathan Swan]

But you raised something really interesting, which is the pain is sort of the point. He, he, Trump. You know, people say, oh, they haven't been that quote unquote successful in the sense that, well, you know, some of these people, these people are not in jail yet. John, John Bolton was, is obviously been charged. But for Trump's mind, and he has said this to people, he just wants them to go through the process. The pain of being investigated, the pain of being prosecuted, that's enough. Actually, of course he would love them to go to jail as well. But the fact that Letitia James has through this herself, the fact that Comey, you know, is stressed out about all this, that is emotional sustenance for him.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman there with this book that talk about investigations. I don't know how we haven't gotten our hands around those tapes yet. But let me go back to Pulte. This is why they're in complete meltdown. And Pulte and just to frame this. So I think it would be helpful to the war and posse to understand this is that there's been a big effort to downsize DNI driven by the CIA and driven by Tom Cotton and these guys. So when you see Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham talking about this, this is not to go after the deep state. This is to downsize DNI from its administrative or supervisory function over the intelligence community to what I call CIA supremacism. They want the CIA to be supreme in all things when it comes to intelligence. They don't want to take the deep state apart. They want to power the deep state. And of course, right there you saw McCabe, who I can't figure out for the life of me how he's not under investigation and already charged with crimes. You know, the former Comey's right hand man at FBI. This is where I think you may have an overburdened doj. You obviously got this grand jury nullification. It's very hard to do anything in Washington D.C. because how politicized it is and how insane it is even to bring a grand jury, much less go to trial. But Pulte is there for twofold. Number one, it's to take on the deep state. So when you see him making These changes, I would say it's already been pretty well thought through. It's the reason he's going as acting for the Commander in Chief, the President of the United States, that have very specific ideas about what DNI should do. It is not to turn over the oversight and supervision and basically make the CIA supreme over all the intelligence apparatuses. President Trump would never do that because he understands the beating heart of the Deep State is the CIA with this, with this, what I call fetish, but with this concept and process of, of how they, of how they get everybody's consensus to buy in on these, on these different agents. It's called the interagency process. That is all run by CIA operatives in the different departments, whether they are at Department of War or they're at the Department of Homeland Security. They are embeds in there. This is how the CIA runs the deal. President Trump is not downsizing DNI to make the CIA more powerful. So they're not just doing, taking out the seconded people and sending them back, although that is definitely an option. They're going to be doing a lot of that. That's what we did in the first administration with the National Security Council. They had so many people secunded from these other departments at the National Security Council. Most of them were Deep State operatives. Bill Pulte, I think. And these guys have a pretty good idea of what they're trying to do and take in the Deep State. And they're not stopping. They're relentless. Things are happening today. We'll be able to talk about it tomorrow. But John Solomon's been over there on declassification. Bill Pulte's there. They hate it, the media hates it. The mouthpiece and the propaganda departments for the Deep State, the same people that are, that are, that are acting as, as harpies on all this. You see here, the same people in the Russia collusion, the same thing on people that. That covered for Biden. One thing you didn't see in any of those clips, because it didn't exist. We tried to pull it. Not one comment on msnbc, cnn about the report Tulsi Gabbard dropped on Fauci on the way out. We spent this morning talking about the immediate criminal investigation, criminal referral on Fauci and how he has to be purple. Not one of this. One of the biggest sins of the intelligence, intelligence apparatus, the working with Fauci and in addition covering for him. We're taking a short commercial break somewhere. Tumbleville on the other side.

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[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Senator Tuberville from the Great Grace Day, Alabama joins the Senator. First off, there's just been a firestorm on the president selecting as acting DNI Bill Pulte to go over there and start to make some downsizing, some things the president specifically wants to do. The president's commander in chief. Why is this? And it's all these senators are the worst some guys in the House, but you get Democrats and you got Republicans, they're going apple. They're apoplectic that the president has someone he trusts over there taking actions that not simply does he support. He's kind of laid out a roadmap. Hey, here's what I want to happen over there. Your thoughts, sir?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Well, we've got a lot of people even on our side, Steve, that think they know better than the president and no better than the people that he's nominating. Now, first of all, if you're a leader, you're going to nominate people that you believe in that's going to have your back and they're going to have yours. And so Bill Pulte, you know, his nickname should be the bulldog. I mean, this guy will go get it and he'll do exactly what President Trump asked. I would imagine Bill Pulte, you know, being over the housing in this country has a little mortgage fraud on some people in New York and maybe even a few congressmen and senators. But he also understands that this place is. DNI is out of control. They're probably taking some. Some information from Tulsi Gabbard about DNI and who's there, who shouldn't be there. You know, all these agencies, Steve, need to be cut back, especially this one. Look at what Kevin Warsh is doing in the Fed. He is cutting people right and left, and it needs to be. They have 28,000 people that work in the Fed. My God, what are we doing? We're letting a non government entity run our country. So Bill Pulte will be a great DNI guy for a while. And President Trump left him in there just for that reason. Go after the fraud.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Listen, one of the things that the CIA supremacists are also wanting to get in the DNI to gut it. It's got to be changed. We understand that. And structurally change. But are you comfortable that the CIA would become. The CIA would become the supremacist intelligence supremacist operation in the federal government, sir?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Yeah, it probably will. But we need to do the same thing in the CIA. There are so many people that are there that are deep state in all these agencies. And President Trump is looking for people to do exactly what Bill Pulte is getting ready to do. Exactly what Kevin Warsh is doing is go in and start cutting people that don't believe in the Constitution and don't believe in the citizens of this country and believe in America. So. So it's got to start somewhere. President Trump is a year and a half into his last term and he's not waiting around. He has seen it, he's lived it. And he wants to give back to the American people and give America back to the country.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

In the last segment, we did a cold open. It was seven minutes long, but we searched the entire msnbc, cnn, we didn't hear. We heard meltdown on Pulte. He's a bad guy, doesn't have a clearance, doesn't know what he's doing. President Trump's out of control. We could not find one mention of the Fauci report dropped by Tulsi Gabbard on her way out the door last week. You've been a big advocate of this. What's your recommendation? How should we go forward with holding Fauci accountable for the actions and the receipts that are showing up in Tulsi Gabbard's DNI report, sir.

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Well, let's go. Even before Fauci, which was a disaster, millions of people lost their lives. Let's go back to Obama. The thing that Tulsi Gabbard said about Obama after he started his reign and going into the all the things that he did with illegal migration, things that went on in Iran, and then if you turn around what he did in the Russia collusion, there are so many people that have broken the law. You know, we've got people in prison that did 10 to 20% of what these people have done to our country. They broke the law. They thought they're above the law, but they're not. And you said Anthony Fauci, I'm on the help committee here in the Senate. I went through every one of those hearings and listen to Anthony Fauci lie to the American people for basically a year and a half, two years, and he should be in prison. Don't give me this nonsense about being able to, you know, be given a pardon. You can probably pardon somebody for a federal crime, but look at the thousands of people that he actually let die because of his lies on a state level. So let's go after him on the state level. You can't get a pardon for that. He's a crook. Obama's a crook. All these people broke the law. Let's put him in jail.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Senator Tuberville, the president historically is coming up. It doesn't happen often. He's coming to Capitol Hill tomorrow to have lunch with the Senate because these issue of certain members of the Senate treating him like it's a lame duck and President Trump's putting to priority. I've got to get the country needs the Save America Act. We just saw Columbia take a couple of hours to count paper ballots on the same day. What is going to happen at the lunch hour? What do you're one of his biggest advocates, one of his biggest supporters. What do you want to happen and be the outcome of tomorrow's, quite frankly, historic meeting?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

The day of reckoning, I would imagine. I'm not going to speak for President Trump. I'm sure he's got a game plan and agenda to come over to talk to. 52, not 53. McConnell's not around anymore. He's, he's pretty much laid up and, and so he won't be in on the conversation. But 52 Republican senators and I would just hope that the president would come in and slam the door on the way in the door and sit down and say, listen okay, Save America Act. I want to see the hands of who's against it. And if you're against it, give us your ideas of why you're against it. Tell 90% of the people across the country, Republicans that are for the American, say America, why you're against it. This is not going to get outside this room. Let's, let's talk about it. We need a discussion about that. And then we need to turn around, do the same thing about busting the filibuster. Okay, who's against it? Okay, 15 people. Good. One at a time. Tell me why you're against it. Tell you why you're against the America that has changed. Because we have 20 to 25 states that we can't control because they're corrupt. And we're going to lose this country because they're taking over states every year because of these wacko Democrats that are taking over mayor's jobs, governor's jobs. This is not the America 15 years ago. This is a new America that has been changed by the minute, by third world country people, by radical communist socialist mayors and governors. And if we don't get control by busting the filibuster, Steve, it will be over with. We will not see the light of day as a constitutional republic for five more minutes after the Democrats take control in November, because they're going to win the Senate in November if we don't change pace.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So you're saying, hey, look, you're going to serve lunch, but the purpose is not to have the Senate, the president up for a nice collegial thing. You want to get down and you're advising the President, let's get on a brass tax. You said day of reckoning. Tell me, let's take a vote, have a show of hands. If you're not with me, tell me why you're not with me. He's a reasonable man. He's a deal guy. But you want the senators that are not with the president on these issues, like Save America or the standing filibuster, to make the argument to him, to his face of why they are not with him. Correct?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Yeah. I mean, he's just another person now. He's the leader of the free world and he's trying to save America. Just give your reasoning. I want to hear it. I want to hear why people are from states like North Carolina, Alaska that voted for President Trump, that their senator is voting against something he wants. I just don't understand that. Now, I might be off base here, but when I was elected, they didn't elect me to vote. What I believe they voted in Alabama to send me up here to vote how the people want me to vote. And so this shouldn't be. It shouldn't be an argument. It should be in a discussion of why. What can we do to change your mind? Because this is the direction we're heading. President Trump probably knows a lot more about things that are going on than we do. Tell us a few things that you know. Tell us why we need to do this, why we need to pass the Save America Act. Tell us the states that are on the verge of going totally blue that we will never get back if we don't do the Save America act. Because if we don't do this, they're going to vote all these illegals. And just one at a time, we're going to continue to lose states. And at the end of the day, you're going to have Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida and Georgia, and that's going to be it, because the rest of them are going to crumble to the blue states.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Alabama. The citizens there are known for their decency and grit, determination and common sense. What are your constituents telling you? Because this is a huge thing. Like I said, there's certain elements in the established order, in the Republican Party, in the Senate, treating President Trump like he's a lame duck, going to the media and saying terrible things. What are your considerations? What are the folks in Alabama say about this?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

Steve, every time I go back, it never fails. People ask me, coach, when are you going to pass the Save America Act? I said, well, you know, we're trying to. Well, what do you mean you're trying to? We voted y' all in to get it done. We voted President Trump in to get it done. He got a record number of votes. Why should I vote when I know three or four illegals are going to vote to overrun and make my vote count? I mean, they are. They're not. They're not just disgusted, they're mad as hell. And so that's the reason some of these people in some of these other states, maybe Maine or Alaska or North Carolina or Mitch McConnell's Kentucky, they might think a little bit different, but in our state of Alabama, they believe in this country. They believe in the Constitution. They believe God created this country to make it better for everybody, and they want it to continue that way. But I'm going to tell you, even in Alabama, they're losing patience. They're losing a lot of patience, and I don't blame them. I'm losing patience because I listen to this nonsense. I listen to them on the floor of the Senate. I listen to people, you know, say they're voting for this or that. For, for some reason other than making America better again, we're not going to have another chance. This is it. This is the last chance we got. And again, I think the, the time from 1 to 2 o' clock tomorrow here in the Senate and in the Manchester room will go a long way to what's going to happen in the net in the next two and a half years. Because if we voted today, I don't think that we can hold up on the Senate side. I think the, I think the Democrats will win. And when they win, right off the bat, they're going to bust the filibuster and we'll never gain control again because they will overload the overload the, you know, Washington D.C. as a state, Puerto Rico and then obviously the Supreme Court. It will be a disaster for the American people.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Senator, we agree with you. We took the showdown to Texas and make sure there was grassroots enthusiasm, great grassroots groups in Texas for Ken Paxton. And I've told the President and I've told everybody on the show that unless the Senate changes dramatically and that's got to happen between 1 and 2 o' clock when you come out of there at 2 or 3 o' clock tomorrow, there's got to be a change in attitude or we're going to lose the Senate. I can tell you the grassroots around the country are just not enthusiastic to do that type of voter engagement that you saw with Paxton. The type of going door to door and believing in something. We can win this, we can win it all. There's nobody can beat us. But it's a lack of enthusiasm because they just, they see people up there not supporting the President. And the key to that is the Save America act.

Do you agree?

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

100%. You know, Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee from Utah is taking a lot of heat from a fellow Republicans up here. They come in after all the talking. Filibuster is not going to work. Hell, that's what we used to do up here. It used to be a full time filibuster. People talk and get up and argue and go back and forth. Now we work three days a week and go home. Let's stay up here till we get it done because I promise you these lazy Democrats are not going to hang around. After a week or two they're going to give up and we can get it pushed through there. But even the Republicans are fighting back against Mike Lee, he's one of the smartest guys up here. He knows what he's doing, he knows what he's talking about. And again, this place used to be somewhere where you debated one on one, two on two, four or five people debating back and forth. You can look at old films, old things that went on, but it has totally changed. It's kind of, you know, every day a steady diet. But here's what's going to happen, Steve. The American people, the good people in this country are losing confidence in the American government. They're losing confidence. You saw in the primaries, we had maybe 20% in the primaries vote in Alabama, 18, 17% in the runoff elections. Folks, if we don't get out and vote, we are going to get crushed because they're going to do a hell of a job of trying to get people out to vote because they're motivated for some unknown reason of trying to get us to socialism and communism. We need to spend the hundreds of millions of dollars that we're spending on some of these people winning the Senate race and start running ads about go vote. This is a reason you go vote. Socialism, communism, wars, no law enforcement, open borders. We need to let the American people what they're getting ready to face if they don't go out and vote.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What's your social media? Where do people get you? Senator, we'll check in with the after the meeting tomorrow. Where do people go at Coach four

[Senator Tommy Tuberville]

gov that's it, Steve. Looking forward for six more months of being here. But I tell you, this is going to be a very important six months

[Stephen K. Bannon]

for our country, big time. The country's in the balance tomorrow at the Senate. One o'.

[Mike Lindell]

Clock.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Senator Tuberville. Coach, thank you so much. Coming in the war room.

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Not according to the ABC News poll in Minneapolis, sir.

[Mike Lindell]

No, that's exactly right, Steven. You know, I've lived the American dream on steroids, going from a crack addict and gambler to a. To be able to be set free of that by the grace of God and building a company, one of the biggest companies the country's ever seen in direct sales and to have a platform up to where we're at now to be able to run for governor and be up against all the evil that's out there. You know, the media is so bad, but it's kind of a little rewarding for me to be that ABC of all of them have to actually report on this, that Mike Lindell is leading. And then they say, well, he's got baggage. No, that baggage is the receipts. I know where all the receipts are for these election platforms. And we're going to have the most secure election Minnesota has ever seen based on.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I know Marino said that at the beginning, what Columbia showed us away, but I got to go back to the baggage here.

They have.

I'm going to play, I'll play this clip. Then this week I got to do it. They have the reporter and it's very preferred. They did a very professional poll and Miklin does it like a 27%. The other speaker of the house is 22. Mike Lindell's got baggage.

She just bald face, lied to everybody.

She wouldn't run if she didn't win the convention. They never mentioned that she has no.

Which I think is a huge.

People go, hey, I can't support her even if I like her because she lied to me. She said she didn't win the conference, the convention vote, she's not going to run.

There she is.

Mike Lindell's get baggage. But she has no baggage, sir.

[Mike Lindell]

Right, exactly, Steve. And then local media here. This was on one of our big left wing reporters yesterday. It came out and it said, I seen a headline. It says, Kendall Qualls and Lisa Daymoth are trying to get the President's endorsement before the primary. I'm going, well, where's my name? And so I called her up and I said, is this a little biases headline? And she goes, oh, my. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was kind of a mistake. She says we'll fix it. They fixed it within 10 minutes. But. But this is what, this is where I'm at. And people say, you know, that was one of the things, too. Well, Mike, you're running for governor. The media is going to attack you or they're going to, they're going to ignore you. Well, Steve, I've been trying to. I've been dealing with the media for over five years now, actually, more than that, all the way back to when I met the president in the summer of 2016. So I'm well versed in that. In fact, I welcome the attacks because if that's how I get the word out. And the Minnesota media, they've learned, let's just not even talk about Mike Mandela. Maybe, maybe nobody will know he's running for governor.

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