
Episode 5484: The Start Of America's Civil Rift ...
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Steve Bannon
This decision,
John Eastman
it's a two parter and I get it. Everyone is applauding the fact that the Constitution sort of withstood the assault by the administration as a noted coming in. But I cannot help but know and believe that the 14th Amendment is still in the crosshairs of this administration or future MAGA administration. And I think some of the predicates for what they want to do were laid by some of the Justices in their, in their concurring opinions and in their dissent that we should be very, very mindful of.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
The 14th Amendment survived. And that's great news.
John Eastman
Yes.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
I think what's scary is that it seemed that there were four justices, at least two of them, or three of them, depending on how you want to count it, that were very comfortable with a President's executive order undermining the Constitution. That's big news. I think we have a policy here on the show that when Stephen Miller is sad, we tend to be glad. But I want read what he said on X. I think it's very important to speak where the mindset of this administration is at one of the most destructive and outrageous decisions in a long history of the Supreme Court. American citizenship is not the birthright of the world. It belongs only and solely to Americans. No provision of the Constitution can be read to require our national self obliteration. It belongs only and solely to Americans. Who are those Americans? Are they the Native Americans whose land was stolen out from underneath them, who still live in terrible conditions all around this country? Is it the people who came over on the Mayflower? Because I can tell you Stephen Miller's family does not trace back to the Mayflower.
Stephen K. Bannon
Who's he talking about?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
And you think had this gone the other way, that can of worms opens up and you have a nation of people who might be stateless. You have a nation of kids whose entire identity is overturned by the stroke of a pen. And then it was perilously close today.
John Eastman
And then it sets up the opportunity for them to be deported and worse, immigration policies to come.
Steve Bannon
Look, the President's been very clear, as we all have, about our views on birthright citizenship. But the fight doesn't end here. We came within a hair of victory. And in my experience in the United States, when you're within a hair of victory, that typically means that you're going to win ultimately when you keep pushing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Let me throw one more question.
Steve Bannon
Are you going to take this on the legislative path to try and push it through? Correct?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Yes, we will.
Steve Bannon
Absolutely. Through Congress. That's the plan.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
I Guess one of the big questions a lot of people have is, this
Terry Schilling
has been in the 14th Amendment for all these generations.
Stephen K. Bannon
Why now this sudden almost revelation by
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
some people that, oh, my God, this
Stephen K. Bannon
is a terrible thing?
Legal Analyst
Well, I think part of it is what they see on the ground, right? This documentation, at least according to the conservative legal movement, of birth tourism, which came up at oral argument, and there was an exchange between John Sauer, the Solicitor General, and Chief Justice Roberts, where John Sauer basically said, there are 8 billion people in this country who are a plane ride away from being birth tourists and therefore giving citizenship to their country. And John Roberts retort to that was, well, it's the same old constitution, Mr. Sauer. But I think the other thing, and this is sort of like zooming out and looking at the Trump administration writ large. This is an administration where what used to be fringy theories about how to interpret the Constitution suddenly fall into the mainstream. So we think about the unitary executive theory, which used to be something that nobody really talked about, has definitely been pushed to the forefront of their legal agenda. So, similarly, some of the ideas that motivated January six and some of the legal strategies underpinning it, things that people like Ken Chesbrough and John Eastman were propounding, those were things nobody talked about until they started talking about them. And now, all of a sudden, they have major currency within the Republican Party in certain facets of the conservative legal project.
Political Commentator
I think, to your point, it's a political fight now, and it's a political fight on protecting. A lot of these TPS holders may have won today with Supreme Court, but then are they going to be sent back to Venezuela? We have 400,000 Venezuelans on TPS right now. Are they going to be sent back to a country still just experienced a brutal earthquake?
John Eastman
Well, Venezuela is the 51st state.
Political Commentator
You know, that's what's, that's what Democrats are going to have to start fighting. Are we going to send 300,000 Haitians to Haiti? Are we going to send 6,000 Syrians back to Syria? Afghans? I mean, it's going to require a lot before the midterms, and people want to see a fight. So I, I encourage people, I mean, these primaries are still ongoing to push their leaders to have a plan on immigration, because once Democrats take back power, if they do, it's on them to govern on this issue.
Steve Bannon
Absolutely. A deep knife wound in the heart of the American republic. Look, Jesse, I can step tomorrow onto the deck of a 747. It does not mean that I am the pilot of that plane and I'm qualified to fly it. Just physically being on US soil does not make you a citizen or quality qualified to carry on or capable of executing the inheritance of this country. We have people from all over the world, from third world nations, nations that on their own would have never invented the wheel, let alone modern technology, let alone medicine, let alone air travel. And they can just come into the country, have a baby at a hospital paid for by you and me, and then that baby's automatically a citizen. That baby can sit on a jury when he turns 18 and sit in judgment of you and sit in judgment of me and sit in judgment of our loved ones can decide who our mayors are, our governors are, our presidents are. Citizenship means nothing if it is open to everyone. The idea that you can have a cruise ship filled with foreigners and they just dock at a port for an hour and someone has a baby, Jesse, the baby's an American citizen. They can vote in every election for the rest of their lives. They could be living in a foreign country and cashing welfare checks from American citizens. Look, I know that some of the justices who worked on this, they think that they're so intelligent. There is no possible reading of the 14th Amendment that applies to foreigners with foreign loyalties, foreign citizenship, foreign obligations, foreign everything. And here's another point. Here's a pretty good clue. Your constitutional interpretation is wrong. If your ruling requires you to suicide your civilization, your reading of the Constitution is wrong. President Grant and the congressman in the 19th century did not want to create an automatic third world citizenship requirement for America. It's an abomination. But let's thank President Trump. Because of President Trump's courage and leadership, we are now on the precipice. Yes, we were dealt a setback, but because of his courage alone, we're on the precipice as a nation of being in a position to end this travesty once and for all. Breaking overnight, a 30 year Democratic incumbent falls. This as we see new signs of the ascended energy on the left of the party. CNN projects that in Colorado, 15 term Congresswoman Diana DeGette has been defeated by
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
29 year old Democratic Socialist Melakiros
Melakiros (Democratic Socialist)
I Mela Kiros. And tonight this victory belongs to every single one of. Denver. Voters of all ages, of all races, of all religions sent a clear message. We will not wait. We will not wait to take the fight to Donald Trump and the oligarchy. We will not wait. We will not wait to abolish ice,
Stephen K. Bannon
pac, Medicare for all.
Melakiros (Democratic Socialist)
We will not wait to put an end to the politics of the past, to get big money out of our politics and to reject corporate packs at apac. And no, we will not wait to end the genocide in Palestine.
Political Analyst
Certainly not a one off. And we've seen it over the past couple of weeks. There's been so much focus on New York City and Zoran Mandani over the past year since his election. But we've seen that the progressive wing, the very liberal wing of the Democratic Party is starting to push back against the establishment. If there was ever a generational shift in what we saw last night in Colorado where Diana DeGette, who was considered a progressive in Congress, losing to somebody who is even father to the left shows you right now as the Democratic Party has gone through four years of Donald Trump again has decided to push back against the Santa establishment. We've not only happened again in Colorado last night, we've seen it happen in Washington D.C. we saw it happen in New York City, we've seen it happen in Georgia. We're seeing it happen all across the country right now. It's not a wave. Let us not tell anyone out there that it is a wave. But the fact of the matter is the Democratic Party right now is going to is undergoing this whole transformation right now and we're seeing these younger, more aggressive progressive Democrats take on the establishment.
John Eastman
John.
Steve Bannon
So while some of my colleagues may
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
not want to hear the truth,
Political Commentator
the
Steve Bannon
same outrage you feel about Renee Good and Alex Preddy, you should feel about Sheridan Gorman and Lake and Riley and every angel family in this country.
Stephen K. Bannon
I do feel that outrageous.
Steve Bannon
You do not. Because if you did, do you feel
Stephen K. Bannon
support such feel the outrage about Alex?
Steve Bannon
You should be ashamed.
Stephen K. Bannon
You don't belong in this committee. You should get the hell out of this race. You don't understand the committee. You don't understand the Constitution.
Steve Bannon
Say one word about get rid of say one word about Alex.
Melakiros (Democratic Socialist)
I did.
Steve Bannon
I wrote a whole New York Times op ed about it. You should be absolutely policies that resulted in their daughter.
Jim Rickards
The committee will be in order.
Stephen K. Bannon
Mr. Chairman.
Student Activist
I have organized two walkouts now at Bora High School and I can tell you we do not walk out of school because we simply want to skip class or get out of our homework. I don't want to miss out on my studies. I wish I could simply stay in school, but I simply can't afford to stand idly by as our immigrant neighbors are kidnapped and as our democracy is threatened everywhere we look. If anything, the rise of student walkout should be a signal to our legislators that what's going on is not working for us Idahoans better.
Political Commentator
Right. Which is the fact that today the United States also dodged a massive economic bullet by. By allowing birthright citizenship to remain in place because of the upheaval it would create if that if Donald Trump's dream of getting rid of it actually came to fruition. Can you talk a little bit about what it looks like from that kind of perspective? Yes, because it gets very micro. So you would have hospital systems immediately be paralyzed at the very delivery room and be unable to provide basic medical care because you would be verifying people's citizenship. You would have an increase in ICE enforcement in communities initially because ICE would have to create policies to apprehend and detain more infants. And so you'd see more family separation. And every time you do that, every time you take away a child or then you apprehend their parent, you're taking away a worker from our economy. You're taking away demand in our economy. There is this incredible study that just came out from Brookings that where there was record high arrests that were outside of the norm of past administrations, that you had job losses for Americans. And so any increase, whether you're deporting kids, you're deporting their parents, and you're doing these family separations, they impact us. And that, unfortunately, is. I mean, we're at the 250th anniversary. Immigrants have always generated demand and economic activity. I mean, TPS holders, they contribute over about estimated $30 billion every year to the GDP. And so if you take that out, that is the fight. It is an affordability fight. I hope leaders realize immigration is an economic cost of living issue.
Steve Bannon
Got DNI Pulte over there as the new director.
Stephen K. Bannon
We also know you have the task
Steve Bannon
force set up on declassification, maybe looking, talking about international, maybe looking at some declassification.
Stephen K. Bannon
Are you able to give us an update on declassify?
Bill Pulte
Almost everything. And you know, by the. We have Jay Clayton is going in. You know, Bill Pulte is a very talented guy, but he's just there temporarily until Jay Clayton. And Jay Clayton is going through the process. And Jay Clayton, highly respected and so is Bill Pulte. But Bill is there just for a fairly short period of time. But while he's there, I said, you can declassify whatever you want.
Stephen K. Bannon
Do you think we're going to get some soon or maybe 25?
Bill Pulte
I told him, you can do it as fast. You got to ask him. All right. But I think it's A friend of yours. I think that. I think that Bill will declass. I told him you can declassify whatever you want. So Bill's there just, you know, for maybe a month or two months or something. And Jay is going through the process. He's got a hearing in two weeks. Highly respected man, Jay Clayton. Okay, thank you. Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders
War room.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Welcome back. I got Terry Shelley. So, Terry, look, you've been American Principles Project. What I admire about what you guys have done the last couple years, Raheem and the entire team, you know, Raheem, helping over national polls, is you've made American Principles Project the center of the American family for the Natalist movement, for economics, you know, the economics, populist, nationalist economics have to work. The core unit we have in this country, the core unit we've had in the Christian west is the family, right, the nuclear family, as Burke tells us, the little platoons that is under assault economically from every area. But I don't think that people fully understand that the transgender ideology is something different. That is to the core of what we're seeing now when you talk about dsa. DSA is culturally Marxist, right? Also economically Communist in jihadists. The combination, it's a complete package. They are not just open borders, birthright citizenship, get rid of ice. But at the core of it, they detest your own identity as a man or a woman. In particular, your identity as a citizen and. Or a Christian. And I think people just look at this as men and women's sports. It's not that. And what drove a big part of what drove this victory last night is the centrality of the transgender ideology. Folks, this is not open. You can't debate this. That's what I keep saying. This is two sides that are very determined. One that believes in this constitutional republic and want to bequeath it based upon Christian civilization. And another that is radically opposed to that, as the Bolsheviks have been the French Revolution has been The Communists, the CCP's revolution, all of it the same. Terry Schilling, the floor is yours. About you can't take yesterday' swhich was, look, it was a good victory. Okay. Of men and women's sports in certain areas. But they didn't outlaw it in the states. They didn't outlaw it really overall. And I don't think they still got to the heart of the radical nature of the ideology.
John Eastman
No, no, no.
Terry Schilling
Okay. So right now, the Supreme Court decision yesterday was a victory, but it was a meaningful, but not that great of a victory. They say the states may constitutionally restrict sports and private spaces on the basis of biological sex, but what it didn't do is it didn't strike down any of the blue state laws that are allowing boys to compete in girls. So it's still. We have a long way to go. And the next case, Steve. So we withheld. Our defense is good. Our laws are gonna withstand constitutional muster.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Great.
Terry Schilling
But what about President Trump's executive order banning men from girls sports and restricting Title IX funding based on. What about President Trump's executive orders protecting children and restricting Medicaid funding from hospitals and clinics that provide these services? That's a death knell from the gender cult and their industry. If that doesn't pass muster with the Supreme Court now, we're in a whole other world. I'm very optimistic that we'll uphold that. And now that's when we start going on offense against the blue states. But Steve, I think you're getting at the heart of the entire battle for America because, you know, look, you keep saying civil war and I'm actually kind of there right now. I don't want a civil war. It'll be terrible, but the Democrats are forcing our hand on this. And why? Well, at the heart of the Civil War was the issue of slavery. Who counts as a citizen, who counts as a human being? Who doesn't? Right now in America, it's not about whether or not America should exist and continue to exist, like that's the primary thing. But now we're debating what a human person is with the unborn. We're debating what gender is and whether or not children can be sterilized and mutilated against their parents wishes. Now we're talking about citizenship. Who's a citizen? Who has the right to citizenship? Who doesn't? All of these things are existential threats to America. And there isn't a compromise. Like the compromise that we came up with was very simple. You can do sex changes, but just not to children. That's not good enough for the left. They want sex changes for children. In fact, many of my friends think that's the whole point.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's their whole point.
Terry Schilling
Because if you can sterilize the children. Then guess what? They don't have a family line. They don't have their own children. Then now you can control them. You have the Chinese. It sounds so crazy, but it's the 21st century. We're gonna see horrors we never even imagined. The Chinese right now are developing artificial wombs. That's because they know they need human beings. But who's going to be able to own those artificial wombs? Corporations and the state. You won't be able to do it because it's too much power in order to and too much money for regular human beings to be able to afford. But at the heart of all of this, Steve, is whether or not America
Steve Bannon
is going to exist.
Terry Schilling
And we should be thanking our lucky stars that the moderate masks are coming out. As we saw with the Colorado primary results last night, these people actually hate America. And they're actually saying it out loud. And we should be so thankful to God for their candor and their transparency. Finally. Because I'm sick and tired of dealing with people like Abigail Spamberger, who's a CIA spook. Literally, in order to get hired by
Stephen K. Bannon
the operative you can tell in order
Terry Schilling
to get hired by the CIA, they literally test you for sociopathic qualities. Cuz if you're gonna be a spy, you should be able to lie without remorse, right? So we have this woman who lied her way all the way to the governor's mansion, broke every promise so far, and we're told she's a moderate. No, no, no. She's a covert Marxist who's masquerading as a moderate Democrat. But we don't have that problem anymore. You have the Mamdanis, you have the new. I'm totally blanking on his name, but the guy that's most likely gonna be the Senate nominee in Michigan is Islam.
Stephen K. Bannon
He's radical Islam and he's Marxist.
Terry Schilling
I saw a post. We're just getting done with Pride month, thank goodness. But I saw this post yesterday lambasting one of the flags that was being flown in the Pride parade, which was a hybrid of the Palestinian and transgender flag. And they were like, they don't even realize how dumb they look like. No, no, no, you're the dumb one for falling for it. This is not about promoting Palestinians. It's not about promoting transgenderism. It's actually about destroying the country. The left is now aligning with anyone and everyone they can to destroy America. And that offers clarity for us to bring to the American people. The upcoming midterms are gonna be about Whether or not America continues to exist or it doesn't, and that's ultimately going to be the path we start walking.
Stephen K. Bannon
You have to get back of the pathologies of what dsa, because on a tactical level and quite frankly, political strategy, they're running the tables. They did an interview with me in Politico back in, I think, right after Mandami won, because we had been warning about the power of Mandami. You can't look the other way from this guy. And I said, it's a flashing red light and people better take him seriously. When we went down to Texas, he won the Senate District 9 by going door to door. They just won in Colorado. He's still the only politician I've seen. The other night when he won those three victories in New York, he said he started his speech by saying, show me who canvassed. Raise your hand, Raise your hand. He said, those are the hands that won this. Where are the Republicans? Do you think Polly Pockets is sitting there talking to the donors? Hey, show your hands. If he wrote a check, they hope that their money's going to save them. The money didn't save the aristocracy in the Bolshevik Revolution. It didn't save the aristocracy in the French Revolution. It didn't save. It never saves you. Your money doesn't save you. They're coming for you and they're coming directly for you. And if you don't wake up and see what you see and you keep avoiding it, they're going to run the tables on people.
Terry Schilling
And that's why it's so important that we organize around the American family. The American family is our army. It's where we get new people to help. It's where new people enter the country and where they learn what it means to be an American.
Stephen K. Bannon
It is, but it also has to be an economic argument. The economic argument around that we can't go with the standard Republic look, the standard Republican playbook got America to this place in the 250th year of our existence. It is because the culmination of the Bush program was the birthright citizenship. John Roberts is a hardcore Bushy. That is the way they think about this country. America is an idea, right? Look at. Read his opinion. This is what you're the standard stock. Republicans have to be turfed out and we have to get as tough as the DSA people and working hard. So what are you guys doing about it? And then I want people to go to your website because you're one of the leaders in the intellectual, the applied intellectual, not Some sort of theoretical, you know, college, you know, bull session, which a lot of these sites are. A lot of these groups are.
Terry Schilling
Well, we've got to spend millions of dollars in these key Senate and governors races. We're going to Wisconsin, Georgia, we're going to North Carolina. We're probably going to play in Texas just to make sure that Talarico is branded as the radical Marxist that he is. But see, the next big iteration of app. We're not ready to launch this just yet, but it's organizing families in politics. We're going to have a website called Family Vote where people can check their voter registration, find out people that are in their own house.
Stephen K. Bannon
But you're doing a family level. You're going to engage and make it a family issue where they participate. You teach kids civics by gaining their active participation. I think it's brilliant.
Terry Schilling
Steve. I'm not a conservative. I'm not a Republican because of any book I read. I'm a Republican because my great grandmother listened to Rush Limbaugh with me in the car, right? She talked to me about politics. We need to tap into that. Everyone has that matriarch grandma, everyone has that patriarch grandfather. That's who we need to work through. And we need to get them to get their kids understand why this country's worth saving, why it's worth fighting for.
John Eastman
Go to.
Terry Schilling
Any of you know I was in Italy last week for a party at the embassy.
Stephen K. Bannon
Is that what you're blaming on that tan that is working so hard? He comes in, he's got a better tan than Trump abandoned. What the hell is that about?
Terry Schilling
I did, I took my two oldest daughters over there and Steve, I'm driving through the countryside, it's so beautiful. And I'm thinking, so we drove out to go see Padre Pio in San Giovanni Rotondo. And it's a four hour drive and I paid like €45 in tolls just to get out there. My daughter says, these roads, they're terrible. I'm like, well, the money doesn't go to that. It goes towards everything else. And it's just California, but older, allowing
Stephen K. Bannon
the North Africans then one more time, social media and where they go over to American principles. And when are you gonna launch this family oriented politics?
Terry Schilling
We're gonna be launching it ahead of the midterms. It's gonna be a robust database. You'll be able to get a lot of information from it and to see a lot of your family and friends who need to get their butts to the polls by the way my wife forgot to vote in that last upcoming midterm election in Virginia. We're busy as hell and this is my career and we're missing out.
Stephen K. Bannon
And they shifted the primary.
Terry Schilling
Exactly.
Stephen K. Bannon
If you don't know, you don't know.
Terry Schilling
But it's just American principlesproject.org, or you can follow me on all social media platforms at Shilling 1776.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thanks for coming by.
Terry Schilling
Hey, thanks Bo.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Neil McCabe
We are at Medora, North Dakota, where the president will be participating in the dedication of the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. Maduro, of course, is this is the area in the Badlands. Roosevelt first came out here in 1883 on a hunting trip and then in February of 84 when his, his wife died in childbirth giving birth to Alice. And then his wife, his mother, died the same day. He was so wrecked by this emotionally that he came out here and basically was a rancher for two years before he sort of gathered himself, returned to New York and became the Theodore Roosevelt that we know today.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, the Badlands, as he says, turned him into a man. I mean, it was amazing. And Maduro was really the railhead of it, the, the most important thing. But man, he went through a tough winter. I think eventually his entire livestock operation was wiped out. Why did they decide to build the presidential library out there? I mean, it's shocking. I think it's great. But who are the visionaries decide to do that? Neil
Neil McCabe
I think you really have to credit Doug Burgum. Obviously there are local people who are always calling for this. The first presidential library was Benjamin Harrison. That was sort of run by his family. FDR got it started in its sort of official capacity as we know it now in 41, but there was some effort by people here to sort of gather the Theodore Roosevelt papers and documents that were scattered all over the country in different libraries and universities. And they basically pulled it all together over a number of years. And they planted it here. And when Burgum was the governor of North Dakota, he championed this project. And then, of course, he'll be here today as the President dedicates it. But it's really interesting to put it here because this is where that Teddy Roosevelt, that charged up San Juan Hill, that talked about, you know, the man in the arena, the rugged individualism, that was all born here. Not in his home in West 57th in Manhattan.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, it was. He was. Throughout his life. He said the Badlands made him a man. I mean, he fell in love, as many of us do. He fell in love with the American West. You know, being an Easterner or a Southerner. You know, you go out west and you just. You're absolutely blown away. And he was not in the Rockies. He was not in the Rockies of Montana or Colorado or the magnificent desert of Arizona. He was in the Badlands. You can't imagine when I say badlands, it is a rough neighborhood and just incredible natural, I guess, haunting beauty, but bitter winters and he plowed through, but he made him a man. That's why they're doing it. Go ahead, sir.
Neil McCabe
No, there's a graceful sort of peacefulness here, and it's really desolate. You really feel like you're alone with these sort of stone monuments, driving out here. It was just incredible just to look out the window and just to be out here walking around, you can see that this is a place that lends itself to regeneration and contemplation. Of course, the President today is going to be speaking about these themes of Theodore Roosevelt. And you know, how he is expected to talk about how Roosevelt came here after his personal tragedy and sort of rebuilt his life. And of course, in the East Room of the White House, Steve, you have four portraits. George and Martha Washington, William McKinley, who is really President Trump's template for economic policy, and Theodore Roosevelt, who was his template for foreign policy.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, and also right outside the Oval Office, the Roosevelt Room, which is really the. Has turned into a very important meeting room. It's just magnificent with the portrait of Teddy Roosevelt as a Rough Rider. What time do you know the logistics? What time? I take it the speech is going to start? 4:00pm supposed to 4:00pm Eastern Daylight Time, although the President is landing, taking a helicopter, then he's going to take a rail trip. Maduro was really founded, I guess not founded, but made a spot in the cattle business back in the 19th century by a kind of a mad French count. I mean, the story of it is amazing. And if you get a chance Maybe we'll put a up some writings about it so you can learn more because it's a fascinating story of a kind of a French count entrepreneur that came to try to start the industry over there. What time do we know the President speaks?
Neil McCabe
So it'll be. So it'll be 115 local. So I guess it's 415 east coast, but he'll be arriving sort of on point here around 11ish local time.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're in mountain time. You're in mountain time. So if it's 1:15, that'd be 3:15 here. You're on mountain, not Pacific. So it's 1:15. What time, what time is his.
Neil McCabe
Yes sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
What time is his speech start?
Neil McCabe
That will be. So first he arrives around 11. I'm talking local time. He'll write in 11 and then he'll tour the facility, the library and the way they've sort of constructed it to really highlight the vignettes of the Badlands and the different themes of Roosevelt's life. And then he will come here to the amphitheater to give his address 1:15 local, which you'll do the, you'll do
Stephen K. Bannon
the math for me.
Bill Pulte
3:15.
Stephen K. Bannon
We'll be there. I'm sure they'll run late and I'm sure the President's remarks will run late. We're covering live. We got Posovic on the plane, he's on Air Force one. And Neil McCabe is already out there to anchor our coverage. All day coverage of this very important event in the run up to July 4th gets back to the American exceptionalism. Neil, what are your socials so people can keep up with you as you put stuff up during the day?
Neil McCabe
You can find me on all the socials. Eporter McCabe, Steve,
Stephen K. Bannon
thank you so much. Appreciate you. Jim Rickards, you're following Teddy Roosevelt today. We're getting you right after the open on Teddy Roosevelt. Your thoughts on Teddy Roosevelt
Jim Rickards
to the Badlands. And Colonel George Custer, when he was riding west to meet his destiny, went through the Badlands. He said, this is hell on earth. This is what hell looks like if you could kind of ride through it. Which is true to a point, but it really is spectacular. Your description was exactly right. There's nothing quite like it. Hard to describe geologically, but yeah, it's a rough country and I'm a big admirer of Teddy Roosevelt for a number of reasons. One, when William McKinley was assassinated, they, you know, Roosevelt became the president, but they had to let him know he was mountain climbing in New York. I Think it was on Mount Marcy, but it took a couple days to find him. And then I've done a lot of, I've done safari, spent a lot of time in Africa. And you know, Roosevelt practically killed himself doing a river voyage. It wasn't the Amazon, it was a different river, but it was one that I think was the river of death. Had some crazy name like that, but he never quit. So. And of course we all know the story when he was shot at point blank range, was bleeding, but he was late for a speech and he went, he gave the speech and then he went to the hospital after the speech with the blood coming down. Extraordinary individual. But I agree that Trump looks, obviously Trump looks at Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt. One of my thesis is that every 100 years you have to have a president who's just completely out of the box. So we had Jackson in the 19th century, Teddy T.R. in the 20th century. We have Trump in the 21st century. But we need those to keep things fresh.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think it was Mark Hanna, the senator that, remember it was Roosevelt was kind of slapped onto the ticket, right? He was. And they wanted him climbing mountains or doing. They didn't want him to have any involvement because they understood this guy was a reformer. And then after the assassination, I think the very first meeting when they came down, he actually came and went to, was at Buffalo to see the body. They had a meeting with him beforehand, said, hey, we just want to make sure you understand something. We're running the deal here. We're his guys and you're not. And Roosevelt, that didn't last too long. So it was in that regard, he's quite Trumpian. Talk to me about, first off, where do we stand geopolitically? The president is now got, you know, more guys over there. I think what 40 vessels have gone through in the last 24 hours, people are talking about the Iranians are doing a flex in Hormuz. How do you see this thing playing out? Because for the President, it's a very high. He wants to put in the rearview mirror and move on, focus on the economy. Jim, what are your thoughts on all that?
Jim Rickards
He would like to do that. You're exactly right, Steve, but Iran's not going to let him. And this is a. Was one of our newsletters. Just have a copy of. I'll just take a minute. This, we published this on March 11, so almost four months ago. And I'll just. Here's what I said. Is Iran winning the war? Practically. The entire Iranian navy has been sunk A very Large percentage of Iranian missile launchers have been destroyed. Remainder are under constant threat. How could Iran possibly be winning the war given these facts? But I go on to say this war is not a full scale confrontation. It has limited tactics and goals. For Iran, mere survival as a theocratic state is a kind of victory. And they may be able to do just that. And then as a conclusion, so I just said Iran has a united population. Reports of internal protests are greatly exaggerated since The Ayatollah killed 5,000 protesters. It has a robust political system despite decapitation. Drones are cheap and easy to manufacture, can do as much damage as an F15 strike. Iran has strategic death allies in Russia and China and a strong survival instinct. In a war of attrition, really a war for survival, victory goes to the last man standing. That may be Iran. I wrote that four months ago. Now, that's all conventional wisdom today. You know, you open the Internet, look at the headlines or whatever, and people are saying that. But it makes the point that you could see this literally with a week after the war began in the White House, they were still kind of high fiving about all the bombing damage. And that was real. I mean, the, the Pentagon executed their orders perfectly. But Iran still has the highly enriched uranium. The regime is still there. A lot of leaders have been killed. The hundred or more top leaders have been killed, but they just replaced them. So the regime is still standing. And the Straits of Hormuz are still under Iranian control. So we haven't accomplished any of our goals. Now, you've said before, and I agree with you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, essentially, though, but he talks about denuclearization on that goal. How far down the path do you think the President is? I think he would argue, hey, I'm 90% of the way there, right?
Jim Rickards
Well, Iran has 100% of the highly enriched uranium they ever had. So if that's your. That's. If that's one metric, he's 0% of the way there because they still have it. It's 60% rich. There's no reason to have 60% rich uranium unless you're going for a weapon, because what you need for a nuclear power plant is more like 5 to 10%. So they still had that. But there's a lot more to a nuclear weapon. You can build a nuclear device that's now the size of a boxcar and make an explosion, but there are many other steps. You've got to weaponize it, you've got to miniaturize it. You got to have the ballistic missiles, guidance systems put a warhead that can survive, et cetera. Iran is not there on any of those metrics. But they weren't there before the war started. That's the point. There was time using economic warfare and other sanctions. So does Trump want to escalate? No, but Iran may not give him any choice. They, you know, you mentioned 60 vessels got through the Strait of Hormuz. Okay, that sounds good. But the normal daily Traffic was over 120, about half oil tankers and half cargo. So we're nowhere near that. And it's Iran said, control your faucet. It's on again, off again. So you know, they let, they let vessels go through and then they'll shoot one with a missile and blow up the engine room. So I don't consider that to be open.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, Jim, hang on for one second. Rickards is with us. Gruber's going to join us. Harrison from Texas, Wayne Allenbrood on this national emergency executive order packed wall to wall today, Civil War Day on the American Revolution
Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Jim Rickards
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Jim Rickards
Sure. I don't know when the school stopped teaching geography, but I've always been obsessed with maps. If you look at the Black Sea, all right, Ukraine is the northern shore of the Black Sea, although it's half Russian at this point. But the southern shore is Turkey, and they control Constantinople, where Istanbul and the Bosporus. I've been there. It's pretty narrow. You see the Russian vessels going through. So if you're fighting over Black Sea traffic and Ukrainian exports and Russian efforts to prevent that, etcetera, you're going through Turkey, you're going through the Bosporus. And so this is a critical ally. It is a NATO ally. I know that they've never been admitted to the eu, and it's different culturally, but Turkey always has been, but they're NATO ally. And so I think Trump is smart, obviously, to maintain that relationship. And he's talking to Putin. I mean, and if you go by the media and the propaganda, you would think that Russia and the US are practically at war. Well, there's something like that going on in Ukraine. Unfortunately. But Trump has a very good pipeline to Putin. They talk. And so this is encouraging in terms of how things might end up in Ukraine.
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Melakiros (Democratic Socialist)
It's Charlie too. Hard to say. What about when you took your shot and the one you called? Where is your song for justice?
Date: July 1, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests & Contributors: John Eastman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Terry Schilling, Jim Rickards, Neil McCabe, Melakiros (Democratic Socialist), others
Theme/Purpose:
This episode of Bannon's War Room grapples with the deepening ideological divides in America, focusing on the Supreme Court's recent decision preserving birthright citizenship, political upheaval within the Democratic Party, intensifying debates around gender and family, and America’s shifting geopolitical stance. Bannon and his guests argue that these flashpoints—immigration, citizenship, gender ideology, and political legitimacy—signal an unavoidable and intensifying "civil rift" within the country.
Timestamps: 00:00–04:36
Conservative Reaction:
“Some of the predicates for what they want to do were laid by some of the Justices...” — John Eastman [00:13]
“When you’re within a hair of victory, that typically means that you’re going to win ultimately when you keep pushing.” — Steve Bannon [02:03]
Birthright Citizenship Debate:
"Just physically being on US soil does not make you a citizen or qualified to carry on, or capable of executing the inheritance of this country." — Steve Bannon [04:36]
Timestamps: 03:51–04:36
Timestamps: 07:08–09:33
“This victory belongs to every single one of Denver. Voters of all ages, of all races, of all religions sent a clear message. We will not wait…to abolish ICE...[and] to end the genocide in Palestine.” — Melakiros [07:13, 08:05]
Timestamps: 09:33–10:51
“The rise of student walkouts should be a signal to our legislators that what's going on is not working for us Idahoans.” — Student Activist [10:24]
Timestamps: 10:51–12:24
“You would have hospital systems immediately be paralyzed at the very delivery room... Every time you do that, you take away a worker from our economy.” — Political Commentator [11:15]
Timestamps: 16:43–21:27
Bannon and Terry Schilling (American Principles Project) argue that the transgender rights movement is central to the current existential divide.
"DSA is culturally Marxist, right? Also economically Communist and jihadist. The combination, it’s a complete package." [17:44]
"Right now in America...we’re debating what a human person is with the unborn. We’re debating what gender is and whether or not children can be sterilized and mutilated against their parents' wishes. Now we’re talking about citizenship." — Terry Schilling [19:40]
Discussion shifts toward organizing at the family level and reasserting the “American family” as the core of national renewal and activism.
Timestamps: 24:19–27:40
“Everyone has that matriarch grandma, everyone has that patriarch grandfather. That’s who we need to work through.” — Terry Schilling [26:05]
Timestamps: 31:12–36:12
Timestamps: 39:16–50:17
“For Iran, mere survival as a theocratic state is a kind of victory.” — Jim Rickards [40:23]
On immigration and birthright citizenship:
“American citizenship is not the birthright of the world. It belongs only and solely to Americans. No provision of the Constitution can be read to require our national self obliteration.” — Stephen Miller, quoted by Sanders [00:50]
On generational political change:
“If there was ever a generational shift in what we saw last night in Colorado…shows you right now as the Democratic Party has gone through four years of Donald Trump again has decided to push back against the Santa establishment.” — Political Analyst [08:32]
On economic consequences of revoking citizenship:
“You would have hospital systems immediately be paralyzed at the very delivery room…You’re taking away a worker from our economy…immigrants have always generated demand and economic activity.” — Political Commentator [11:10]
On leftist ideological strategy:
“The upcoming midterms are gonna be about whether or not America continues to exist or it doesn’t, and that’s ultimately going to be the path we start walking.” — Terry Schilling [22:56]
On Teddy Roosevelt’s legacy:
"He said the Badlands made him a man. I mean, he fell in love, as many of us do. He fell in love with the American West." — Stephen K. Bannon [33:31]
| Segment Description | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | 14th Amendment debate; plans for legislative push | 00:00–04:36 | | Political impact of Supreme Court decision; TPS holder concerns | 03:51–04:36 | | Bannon's hardline stance on citizenship | 04:36–07:08 | | Progressive primary victory in Colorado; Democratic rift analysis | 07:08–09:33 | | Heated committee exchange; student activist segment | 09:33–10:51 | | Economic fallout of ending birthright citizenship | 10:51–12:24 | | Family as unit of political action; organizing conservative families | 24:19–26:40 | | Teddy Roosevelt Presidential Library dedication coverage | 31:12–36:12 | | Jim Rickards on Iran, Trump, and global strategy | 39:16–50:17 |
Throughout, the episode is combative, urgent, and unapologetically populist-conservative, with Bannon and his guests warning of civil conflict if cultural, constitutional, and demographic battles are not resolved to their satisfaction. There’s a consistent call for grassroots mobilization—which they define as centering around the family unit and religious-national identity—and a deep skepticism toward both the Democratic establishment and “moderate Republicans.” The metaphor of “civil war” is used explicitly and repeatedly, both as threat and rallying cry.
If you missed this episode, you heard insiders dissect and denounce the latest Supreme Court ruling preserving birthright citizenship, warn of coming legislative and cultural clashes, celebrate and decry progressive insurgencies within the Democratic Party, and debate the very definition of American identity and citizenship in the 21st century. The discussion weaves between law, culture, international strategy, and grassroots political organizing, set against the looming sense that America is no longer simply in a moment of divisive politics, but at the beginning of an epochal, existential rift.