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Episode 5527: Using Fear To Manipulate The Population
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go
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to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul
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I w that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Saturday the 18th of July year overlord 2026. Terry Schilling. I got Michael Pack on deck. We're going to get to Michael in just a moment. The great filmmaker Terry, before I let
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you go,
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we spent the first part of the show talking about $300 trillion of global debt. From sovereign debt all the way to what you own, your credit cards globally. And that we're heading towards a margin call which is going to be catastrophic and lead us to a crisis here in the United States. We are what, 40 trillion in debt the first nine months of this year, $1.4 trillion deficit spending. It'll go up to 2. We're in a war that, you know, as much as I love Pete and these guys that keep selling these bills at Capitol Hill for $88 billion, $100 billion and you know the Arabs aren't writing a check. President Trump proposed the other day a 20% spiff on everything coming out of the Persian Gulf, which, hey, ain't perfect. I'm for free navigation but when you're in a jam, you're in a jam and he gets some phone calls from the Saudis and UAE said well, we can't afford that. And next thing you know, that's off. One of the ways to turn this around, one of the basic building blocks is to get more stability is family formation. Right now family formation, you say, is in the late 30s. First time home buyers are in the 40s that post World War II and really throughout American history has been the backbone of the country. Family formation, particularly in your young 20s, has been a backbone, has been a backbone of the, of the American economy. And now it's getting later and later. And the reason it's getting later and later, let's face it, women are sitting there looking at guys you have 12 million STEM workers. They're not in the labor force because you have all these foreign workers here on H1B visas, working class blacks and Hispanics. You've got. You flooded the zone with. Bovino says 100 million illegal aliens. At least we know there's 20 million here from the Biden regime that they look and the women are making a rational thing, hey, can this guy, you know, as much as I love him or as much as I think we have chemistry, can he step up to the plate and really provide economically to support a family with a couple of kids? This gets later and later and later. That's a big a ticking time bomb as the hitting 100% of GDP to debt. On top of that, you have artificial intelligence. And I say, as bad as our finances are in the country, in the balance sheet, we are making a virtually a suicidal economic bet, a highly leveraged bet on artificial intelligence to deliver massive productivity increases without the concomitant mass layoffs. The probability of that happening is remote. And now you're having people in tech say, well, maybe Bannon's not wrong on this. I don't see the returns. You add artificial intelligence, the investment on that, on the pressure on the American family and particularly young unmarrieds, to actually make not just a family decision, but at its heart, also an economic decision. You're going to push that out later. That's how you have societal collapse, sir.
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That's exactly right, Steve. And you know, we can go back to previous societies and civilizations that the Romans became too prosperous. They stopped having children. They had to import slave labor to do all their crops in the potter fields. And guess what happened? They died out. They were erased. What's that gonna be like when we make robots to replace us? When we make robots to do all of our jobs, when we take away purpose and meaning from people? And Steve, you know, if you look at the dei, everyone focuses on DEI as you know, a cultural phenomenon. It's an economic policy, right? They're blocking out young men out of the entry level jobs, out of college degrees, out of medical schools, out of law schools because of the color of their skin. And so now you have a whole situation where a bunch of young white men who are very capable, very smart, they scored. They don't have any jobs, they don't have any prospects. And guess what? They're giving up. They're going to drugs, they're going to porn, they're going to video games. They're distracted. It's not even just like the hard drugs. It's like weed now is everywhere. You smell it in all your major cities. I was in St. Louis yesterday. I smelled weed everywhere. Why is this everywhere? Was not just 10 years ago where you wouldn't smell weed everywhere. But young men are withdrawing from society and that's gonna have a reverberating effect on young women as well. And so the more we go without getting young people married again, where there's an economy and that doesn't make sense for young people to get married, the more miserable we're all going to be, the more we're going to be in therapy, the more we're going to be on antipsychotic medication, the more our economy is going to actually be cheap. Steve. The economy's fake. You used to be able to support a family off of one income. You'd have a vacation home, you have a second car, you'd have anything you wanted. And now two incomes doesn't do that. Two lawyers don't do that. A plumber doesn't do that anymore. It's atrocious. And we need to get serious about fixing our economy and reorient towards the family and towards the trades. Frankly, I think we've sent sent way too many kids to college. Steve. I don't ever use my college degree. I could have read all these books myself. We paid all this money for it and it's worthless. And you'll find that actually if you sit down with the American. We're doing focus groups right now in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. And what keeps coming up is everyone says their college degree was a scam. They don't use it. It was way too much money and it's completely unnecessary.
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Someone who didn't go to college, Charlie Kirk, turned out pretty successful. Terry. Where they go and get more information about this because this is a. It is a fight that we need people informed on. You. You need to get your arms around what it means to be and I'll get you back. We're kind of out of time between the natalist and the pro family, which is profound. But I'll hopefully get you back this week to talk about that. Where do people go to get all this information? Where do they start getting smart about the family as the core building block? The American family is a core building block to the country itself and particularly the economy. Sir.
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Well, just go to americanprinciplesproject.org, sign up to get all of our news and email updates and check me out on Twitter or on X. It's on all social media it's just Schilling. S C H I L l I n g 1776 Schilling 1776 we're going to have a new report coming out, Steve, in the coming weeks about how we reform and rejigger the economy to be about reviving the American family. I'm very excited to share it.
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Wow.
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That's coming out late July, early August that we can't.
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Give me, give me a little bit of time. It'll be coming out in the coming weeks.
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This is Terry and his homework assignment. Terry Schilling, you're fighting the good fight, sir. Thank you for coming on today. Appreciate you look forward to the report.
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Thanks, brother.
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American principal, by the way, the leading the guy that really went all in early on in transgender was amazing. Michael Pack joins me. Michael, I want to get to the films you're doing and particularly this one. Particularly I want people to see get a taste of it and where they can go to see all of it. But I got to ask you, and this is because the confirmation hearings this week, the president and his powers to pick so we have 4,000 people that any administration, whether it's Obama or Biden or the president get 4,000, 3,000 of those. You basically get a security clearance or some sort of rudimentary security clearance. You can show up for work on the afternoon of the 20th of January of any, you know, the first day of the administration. You can show up 1000. And these are the more senior members of the government and people that really have massive decision making responsibility have to get confirmed by the United States Senate. And that is in the Constitution. They want to make sure that the legislative branch had some check over the president for just putting in whoever he wanted at any time he wanted. And so I've always called the Senate is really the human resources department of the government. Now what used to be a process of advice and consent, because that's what it's supposed to be, has turned into a partisan warfare. You were the most celebrated, I would say as being a conservative filmmaker at the time of a conservative filmmakers. You were kind of the guy that made the films that could play on on PBS or going to theaters. Right. Just on your skill set and not be more tends towards more I don't know of a propagandist as yours truly, Stephen K. Banner was. Now you were nominated to run the most important element of kind of the global communications for the United States government, a revered position. And we controlled the Senate at the time. Mitch McConnell, I want you to talk to People, how long after you were nominated by the president did you kind of sit in limbo so the left wing media could destroy you, your professional life and your family, Sir?
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Well, as you know, the president asked me to serve in March after he was elected, you know, two months after he was, after he was sworn in. And it took three years and three months before I actually walked through the door of the U.S. agency for Global Media. And I served for only eight months to the end of that term. You know, they succeeded in blocking me. My main opponent was Senator Menendez, and he was very skillful at that. He had an army of lawyers. They were great at blocking. And even before it got to the Senate, it was blocked by administrative efforts inside places like the Office of Government Ethics that would just endlessly require more forms, more this, more that. They were just great at blocking it. It was a combination of being blocked politically in the Senate and then being blocked by internal kind of swamp forces inside the government. And they were all marshaled together. And it did not stop, as you just pointed out, after I did walk through the door and was confirmed by the Sen. You know, I was that my agency and I personally were sued endlessly in the District of Columbia, a great place for Democrats to sue Republicans. And it went on, on even beyond the end of the Trump administration, into the Biden administration, because as you often point out, they are relentless. You know, one kind of victory is not enough. They really want to, you know, burn their enemies to the ground.
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They want to as. Listen, now, you were nominated in March of 2017, right?
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Yes.
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You actually walked through the door. Was it in March or April of 2020? Sir, when did you actually go through the door?
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It was, I think it was May or June of 2020. So three years of 20 months later. Yeah, I mean, by the time I was serving, they were already into the next presidential campaign. And I tried very hard to get the Voice of America and the other agencies under the USAGM banner to at least portray that presidential campaign fairly. And that was a battle and not, not an easy, not a battle I think I won, but I, I tried.
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But talk to me about that most. First off, we're gonna go to break here in a second. Why did they throw down so hard on you? Why would they did for a lot of people who just quit. But why did they single you out to say we have to go to general quarters to keep this guy from getting his hands on Voice of America and the rest of, you know, Radio Free Europe, Radio Asia, all of it. Why did they Pick why did they say Michael Pacht is a guy that we have to burn it down before he let him take over? Why was that?
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Well, before I came there, this was like a really sleepy agency. I mean, it spun off from the USIA and the Clinton administration and it had really been run essentially by Democrats through the intervening 20 plus years. And I assured my wife and family that my own nomination and service would be uncontroversial. And like many of my opinions, that turned out to be wrong. I think what it comes down to, Steve, is not me personally, but I think that they recognize that this is a huge media enterprise. I mean, on one hand you could say it's just a mid level government agency, but it's also, it was at the time Time had a budget of almost a billion dollars a year. There were 4,000 people in the agency, mostly journalists. It was one of the biggest media enterprises in the world if you combine the five broadcasters, Voice of America, Radio for Europe, Radio Liberty, Radio Free Asia, Middle East Broadcasting and Cuba Broadcasting. And the left sees the media as something that they have to control. And this was something they wanted to control both for its own just to control the messages that went out to hundreds of millions of people all over the world, but also to put their own journalists in and, you know, put them in, bring them out. It's a place to house journalists and credentialed journalists and they controlled it and they did not want to give it up. I mean, my only goal was to bring it back to its actual legal mission, which is to be fair and balanced and present a fair picture of America and to sort of support Americans foreign policy goals and represent them along with criticism all over the world. And I simply wanted the thing to be covered equally. But as I often say, if you control 100% of the message and someone says you're going down to 50%, you see that as a 50% loss. And that's how they read it.
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Michael, hang on. Michael Pack is with us. Got a brilliant new film out. We're going to discuss, but we're also going to continue on about this confirmation process. Michael Pack could have walked in the door if we'd had a technical recess in the first term. He would be what's called a recess appointee. Short commercial break Take your phone out. Text Bannon at 989-898. Get the Ultimate Guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump and you get to meet Philip Patrick and his team. Do it today. Why wait till you're down to Your last pill stuck. Traveling or dealing with a packed pharmacy when you can already have your medications on hand? Seriously, you know what you normally take. You already know what your family could need. That makes no sense. Smart families don't operate like that. That's why I love all family pharmacy. They're built a better, simpler system. To get your prescription medications, you go online, fill out a quick medical form, licensed doctors review your requests, prescribe if appropriate, and your medications are stripped directly to your door. No waiting rooms, no pharmacy lines, no insurance. Nonsense. People are traveling, more schedules are getting crazier, and have your medications already on hand just makes your life easier. Because being prepared isn't paranoia, it's common sense. Go visit my friends@allfamilypharmacy.com that's one word. Allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use code Bannon10 to save 10% on your next order. Again, that's allfamilypharmacy.com Bannonand use code Bannon10. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Michael Pack, you stuck. Why did you stick for three years and three months? And people don't know this, but every day in the paper would be another just salacious attack on you leaked by the deep state to the like the Washington Post, etc. They just had a series of what awful person Michael Pack is. What a, what a partisan hack he is. Just I'd sit there, said, man, these are the most bald faced lies. But you were a saint. You hung in there. Why did you hang in for so long?
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Yeah, the attacks were amazing, especially at npr, David Folkenflick and the Washington Post. The Washington Post had 40 pieces about me in my eight months there, including four op eds and four editorials. You know, the day I left office, the editorials were about Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and me. I told my wife, well, we're the three most powerful people in the world. But since, you know, my wife Gina, you know, she didn't believe that, but it looked that way. Why did I hang in? I mean, I was producing my documentary on Clarence Thomas while this process went on, so I was busy. But look, Steve, when you're attacked, either you capitulate or fight back. Those are the only two choices. And I did not want to capitulate. I mean, it just, it didn't seem right. I mean, the president trusted me, you know, I didn't. You know, either you back down in humiliation or you don't. And it's true that I lost a lot of friends during that process, but I gained a lot of friends, too. I mean, you yourself said that you didn't think I had it in me, and neither did I, actually. So some people got renewed respect for me. Perhaps you, too, I don't know. You had a lot of respect before. So I don't know. That's what happens when you're attacked. Either you fight back or you quit. Those are the two choices.
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What lessons did you take away from that? What lessons personally did you take away because you were in your, what, late 40s, early 50s when this happened? Most people, there's not many life lessons you can teach after that. What did you learn about that process?
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To me, I mean, so there are things that I knew. I mean, we've talked about this before. You know, I knew about the administrative state, the swamp, and I had been in government briefly in the George H.W. bush administration. But the nature of the attacks, it's maybe obvious, but you feel it differently when there are attacks on you and your organization. This sort of complete. The hatred of Donald Trump throughout my agency and the willingness to do anything to stop him, even though he was President of the United States and signed their paychecks, were astounding. And I think for me, I was just his minion there at usagm. I don't think it was personal to me. And their willingness to do anything was astounding. I mean, you talk about the media coverage. I mean, the media when I was growing up used to be what I call biased, where they present both sides and they would, would more favorably present the sides they agreed with. But by this time, it's well beyond bias. Only one side is presented in those 40 pieces. They never interviewed anybody who agreed with me or anybody who could explain what I was doing about visas, about the firewall, about editorial independence, about anything. They interviewed only one side and they were willing to lie. I had a comms director who would try to correct their lies all the time. After a month or two, he had to be transferred somewhere else. He couldn't take it. You know, he'd present the facts and they would print something else. And I think maybe your listeners know this about the media and the deep state, but it's a different kind of knowledge when you're in the trenches. And it's that kind of knowledge that I think I picked up. Hard won knowledge.
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Hard won knowledge. You know, you have the situation that if you went, if, if the Senate, which is, you know, President Trump's now a year and a half into his second term. So it's been Five and a half years. And the Senate has never been on a day of recess. Why the Republicans are in charge and they've been in charge during President Trump's time. Why is that? Why is the Senate not take an official recess and then President Trump could get in some recess appointments? You would have been a very logical choice in the first year. And there's some limitations on recess appointments. They only go for so long, or I guess they haven't been court challenged about that. But why is the Senate decided and there's been no other president this has happened to, why has the Senate controlled by Republicans, made a decision that Donald Trump is not worthy of taking a recess and letting him think through? Maybe you should have a couple of three recess appointments and maybe that's even a guy like Michael Pacht, I don't know, maybe two years into the process. So that you have two years left. Why is that?
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Sir, I really, it's unfathomable to me. I mean, in my own case, I was up against the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Senator Menendez was the ranking member, and he determined the course of my confirmation process as a ranking member. I don't know how he did it.
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I just want to make sure the audience understands this. He did not head the committee. The committee was headed by Republicans. He's the ranking member. But they turned over because obviously Mitch McConnell did not want you in there. They determined let Menendez do the dirty work here. And he was more than glad to do the dirty work because the Democrats hated you to your core, being because you were Trump's minion. Right, but that's my point. Why would they let the committee we control? Because this audience has gone rang enough doorbells and given enough $10 contributions to make sure they're in power. Why would they turn that power over to the Democrats?
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Well, part of it, a partial explanation in this case is that Menendez really wanted to block me and he was willing to trade things to the majority to do that. I mean, they were willing to, you know, he's willing to say, well, I'll confirm all your. These, these ambassadors. And ambassadors don't make much difference, period. I mean, you know, the president can call foreign leaders. He doesn't need ambassadors to sort of go into their presence. And Senator Menendez and the Democrats saw this as important and willing to trade off their chits to stop me because they saw the control of the media as important and Republicans did not. Beyond that, I don't know. I mean, the workings of the Senate and of Congress in general are an eternal mystery to me. I mean, one of the things that struck me in my eight months there is how many Republican members are controlled by their staff. And a lot of their staffs are weak, whereas the Democrats had way better staffs and way more experienced staffs and they operated more as a machine. I mean, you know that very well, Steve. And I think there are historic reasons for that, but it's not a good thing for Republicans.
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Let's pivot now to you've been making films. You're making films and playing over the Wall Street Journal. We're going to play this after the break. But talk to me about your overall filmmaking with the Journal and what this film particularly why this struck your interest. Because I've always said Pact has a great nose for what is important and kind of what's downrange. What are the films you're making over there and why'd you choose this subject?
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Well, as you know, we make both long form documentaries and now we are doing these short documentaries with the Wall Street Journal and we have an incubator program to train the next generation of sort of right of center or at least fair minded documentary filmmaker. But the project with the Wall Street Journal is a series of short films, 30 minute films that look at issues and events from the recent past that have been misreported, underreported or memory hold and the first. And they're free, not behind the Wall Street Journal paywall. They're all@WSJ.com opiniondocs where you can just search or you can go to palladiumpictures.com my company and find them. And this one is about the lockdowns. And now I think the lockdowns were one of the biggest things to happen to America and even the world in the last five or 10 years. And it shapes a lot of
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our
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government, our public policy, the way we live today. But people largely want to move on. They don't really want to think about it. And we wanted to tell the story and remind people of what happened and why so that it doesn't happen again. Now your viewers, you know, this sort of war room posse, they may have heard these ideas, but I think what we try to do with the Wall Street Journal is put these back in a story, tell people what happened over time. And I think even those that are loyal viewers of yours might not remember how it all played out. And that's what we intend to do. And we're happy to be on the Wall Street Journal website and hope to reach an audience that's more middle of the road. We'll never be able to get the people who loved Opera Fauci to change their mind. But some people in the middle that haven't heard it before, we really want to reach them and tell them what happened. And it's our goal not to dig deep and find some conspiracy theories or things no people have heard before. But I think the bare facts of what happened are compelling enough. And we suppressed science during that period. We as a country gave up our basic rights to the government and we should never do that again. And I think things like the declining work ethic in America comes from this Covid period. And even a lot of people's trust in government, that government will solve all their problems. This rise of socialism comes from the habits formed during COVID And I think it's important to tell the story and the Wall Street Journal opinion. People agreed.
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Were you pretty shocked we're gonna go to commercial break. Were you pretty shocked about. Our audience obviously was immersed in this, but I'm always shocked to people that have almost just the very basic rudimentary understanding of the pandemic and then the results of. Of things about the pandemic. And you're right, they've put it down the memory hole. They just don't want to deal with it. And I'm pretty stunned that it was such a pivotal moment in American history that people just don't want to deal with it.
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Absolutely. It's a stunning thing. And yeah, I think lots of people don't know. I mean, I live in Chevy Chase, as you know, since you have been to my home, a very blue area outside of Washington, D.C. we had a lot of thank you, Dr. Fauci signs on the lawns around us during COVID And most of my neighbors still think he's a hero and save millions of lives instead of the opposite. So I think it's really worth telling. And even I was sort of shocked when you put it all together. I think you're gonna show the trailer. Even the trailer reminds you of what it was like back then.
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Why don't you hang on. We're gonna play a trailer and I think a clip or two from it. Michael Pack is with us. Mike Lindell's about to join us. Tage Gill, all of it. Short commercial break. Back on Worm in a
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To believe
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you got to be.
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Dr. Fauci said, that's the problem. The people are not afraid enough. I said it's unethical to use fear in an emergency to manipulate people.
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We wrote this declaration with the hope of telling the world that the lockdown was the wrong strategy.
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Collins saying, Jay Bhattacharya, we gotta take them down. What scientists talk like that.
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They're killing people.
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High government officials, including inside the White House itself, would go to social media companies and threaten them.
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Nice social media platform you got there. Shame if something happened to it. We became more totalitarian.
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If you don't have free speech, you cannot have science. Almost from the beginning of the Biden administration, they weaponized government, aiming to control the speech around the treatment for Covid, the effectiveness of lockdowns, the harms of lockdowns, school closures, masks, you name it. High government officials, including inside the White House itself, would go to social media companies and threaten them, telling the social media companies who and what to censor.
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When Fauci talked, he started his talk by telling the American public, he's the lead public health person in the United States. And I had just spoken and I was a CDC director and I went to him afterwards, I said, tony, I mean, what's that all about? I Mean, you're. You run a lab at nih, you know. But he clearly felt upon him that he had to take that position.
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Dr. Fauci at one point leaned over this sort of oval conference table and said, one of the problems is the public is not afraid enough. And I was shocked to hear something like this. And I interrupted. I said, can you repeat that? Dr. Fauci said, that's the problem. The people are not afraid enough, so they won't listen. I think it's sort of obvious. But I said, you know, that's unethical. That's not the way public health is supposed to be done. It's unethical, in my opinion, to use fear in an emergency to manipulate people.
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The government working to suppress scientific theories strikes me as a pretty serious breach.
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Yeah, I think it was really wrong. I'm not sure, you know, whether I'm going to say it was the government or scientists in the government, but I do know that Collins and Fauci were trying to suppress it. I do know the scientific community was trying to suppress it. I knew the scientific journals were trying to suppress it. I knew the scientific media was trying to suppress it. And ultimately you got social media to suppress it, but because they were pressured to do that by, I would argue, the government scientists.
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Okay, so, Pac, this is what this is going to do. And I realize for the Wall Street Journal, and I'm so proud of the fact that the war on Posse is ten times farther ahead than the traditional Wall Street Journal. And I tell this to all my young nephews that think the Wall Street Journal is the gospel truth. The question of this audience is going to be, yes, we know this. Of course, seeing it again, just. It's like having a flashback. Why, given your reporting, why is Tony Fauci a free man? Why is he walking around doing what he does and not in a federal prison somewhere?
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Sir? Well, first of all, I have to defend my partners. The Wall Street Journal opinion section on this very topic.
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They were.
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They were way ahead. They had published Jay Bhattacharya and Scott Atlas in March. Right. The pandemic came in December.
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No, no, they. In fact, they give the devil's. They actually did the Barrington decree, or the Barrington. The thing that kicked it off was actually in the pages. Barrington Declaration was actually the opinion section of the Wall Street Journal. They were ahead of the curve on this. There's no doubt.
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Okay. I don't know about Dr. Fauci. I mean, lots of people still love him. I think that in our bubble, you can think Everybody knows that he supported gain of function research. But even so, I mean the stuff that Scott Atlas and Jay Bhattacharya talk about in our film are stuff that was on the surface even then. He ignored data and he stuck with a restrictive lockdowns that had horrible consequences. I mean millions and millions of dollars in people's lives. Children who lost years of schooling needlessly and businesses that were shuttered never to reopen. People who just lost track of their lives or couldn't see their loved ones. I mean horrible consequences. And that's Fauci and Birx. I mean I think people are trying to hold them to account. I mean Rand Paul, relentless to his credit. And as you know, there were all these emails released at the end.
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Yep, very recently. So Tulsi Gabbard at the end of her the next last day released all this. Let me ask you time I gotta ask you, you live in that neighborhood of yours where some of your filmmaking takes place is one of the most pleasant neighborhoods. You kind of almost like it's a Norman Rockwell, you know, painting of what an American, you know, let's say upper middle class or middle class neighborhood should be. And it seemed people are very friendly. If you took this film and said, hey, I want you to come over to the packs and we're going to have, you know, we're going to have a picnic out back and we're going to serve refreshment and I'm going to put it up on the big screen with your name, people, you've lived there for decades and are considered friends and neighbors, all that. And you showed that first off, what percentage of your neighbors would sit through the film before they left and discussed and at the end, and would they be, would they be shocked that you had come up with this propaganda against Dr. Fauci?
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I think what would happen in my neighborhood, and I think this will happen to viewers who go to the WSJ.com website and look for lockdown dissidents. I think a whole bunch of my neighbors will walk out, but I think there are some that are just apolitical, you know, that are teachers or therapists. There are a lot of those in the neighborhood. I think that they might actually have their minds changed. Whereas the ones that are already very political. We have a lot of people in the neighborhood that work at the World bank, for instance, and the imf and all those people, you know, they already, they made up their minds and they will walk out. But I think some people would be convinced the film, I think you're planning maybe to show the whole film at some point. I think you see the whole film. It's very hard to argue that something really went wrong there. And I think for most people that aren't already hugely biased, it is actually a compelling story. I mean, just the bare facts of it. And as you know, that's the way we do our filmmaking. You made this point earlier that we don't. We shy away from propaganda and we try to let all sides speak and we let the facts speak for themselves. And the facts are really pretty clear here. So I like to think maybe half my neighbors would walk out and half my neighbors might have their eyes opened a little bit. But I don't know. I'm not sure I'm going to. My wife is willing to do that Test case, Steve, but that's my no,
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I would strongly recommend against. Can you give us a hint of anything else you're working on? And if we go to the site, what other what are other films that can people see that you've done for the Journal?
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B
Well, if I go to WSJ.com opinion docs, the two earlier ones are there. One of them is about the worst anti Semitic ride in American history at Crown Heights in 1991. And it's really a study of the origins of sort of left wing, democratic oriented anti Semitism which is so prevalent today. And the other one is called the Prime Minister versus the Blob. And it's about Liz Truss's prime ministership and her efforts to fight their version of the administrative state, which they more colorfully call the Blob. A very good name, I think. Yeah, there it is up there. And we are now working on one that'll come out at the end of August on the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which I think it'll be the fifth anniversary. And I think it'll really tell a story that people maybe haven't quite heard. So those are the ones that get there. And if they go to palladiumpictures.com they can find a gateway to the 15 other documentaries we've done that most of which have been nationally broadcast on pbs, including the two I worked on with you, Rick Ober, Birth of Nuclear Power and the last 600 meters, the battles of Najaf and Fallujah.
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We have to show Rick or we have to have an event like we had for less. 600 meetings or Rick over. That film is so amazing and it has not been shown off. I'll talk to you afterwards. I want to say before I leave, one of the greatest compliments I've ever had. I'm. I'm at Michael's, and. And he's got. He's got editing. He does. He and Gina run this great company and. And he's a great mentor. And I'm working on one of my films. I even forget what it is, but I asked you to see a very early copy of it. And we're sitting there, and it's this dark little editing thing. We're watching this little tv. And Michael goes, that was. That's very artistic, the way you did that. And I go, yeah, yeah. And he goes, no, you know, you actually are an artist. I sat there, go, you got to stop. You can't really. He says, no, you're actually an artist.
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H
That, that.
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I don't know if you remember that, but that was one of the greatest compliments we ever had. I walked in and go, God, I said, michael Pax, who's our best film, actually said that. So that motivated me. That's got my. Kept my filmmaking going. Michael, one more time, where do they go? Where they go to see all your work and particularly this Afghanistan. We'll talk about that. We got to make a big deal about that for the fifth anniversary.
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B
Well, they can go to palladiumpictures.com p a l l a d I u m pictures.com and find our pressed work, or they can go to either the Wall street journal website, WSJ.com or their YouTube page and search for lockdown dissidents, or, as you put up a minute ago, the main page for our Wall Street Journal website, Wall street journal documentaries, WSJ.com opiniondocs. And let me stress that they're all free because many people are irritated by the Wall Street Journal's paywall. But these are not paywalled. Maybe eventually they will be, but for now, they're free. And they're each about 30 minutes. And I think they tell a compelling and exciting story as well as an important one.
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Michael Pack, thank you, sir. Thank you for being the toughest and longest holdout for President Trump's first term. Not giving, not. Michael Pack did not capitulate. Thank you, sir.
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B
Thank you. Steve, great talking to you.
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G
Thank you.
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A
Thank you, brother.
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E
Taj.
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A
Gil. Taj, you're someone that shifted late in life from being someone that was. Defended the country and was a gunman and put yourself in harm's way for decades to become an artist. Your canvas is coffee. And you came to the conclusion one day, I've had the best equipment in the world. The best weapons in the world, the best training in the world, and I drink the crappiest coffee. I'm going to change that and I'm going to create my own. It took you years to do it, but Warpath Coffee is the world's finest coffee. Don't take it from me. There's over 19,000 five star reviews on your site right now. The people who go say it ain't Tage and it ain't Bannon promoting this, these are folks. Tell me about it, sir.
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H
Yeah, the website is Warpath Coffee. And if you haven't tried to try it, like, like you said, Steve, I wanted to create a. A really high product. When I was in the SEAL teams, we had. We always had the best gear, you know, the best equipment, the best guns, and I wanted to have the best coffee. So the first one we created was a. The breakfast blend. And it's. That one is. It's a medium roast, and it's really, really smooth. And then when we started working with you, you said we had had a dark rose. So I created that Mariners blend and I called it Mariners Blend because you, you're in the Navy. I was in the Navy, so we're Mariners. And that, that one, even though it's dark roast, we don't burn the beans at all. So you can drink it straight black. It's got very low acid content. It's not bitter at all. So that, that was. The goal, is to create coffee that you could drink straight black. That's what we've done. You know, we have K cups, we have espresso. The espresso you can actually drink straight black. The espresso is amazing. People love it. And then we have all the flavored coffees and the holiday blend. People were emailing us year round, so we just put it up year round now. And we have decaf. The decaf is. I didn't realize there's so many people that drank decaf. The decaf sells out fast. And if you haven't tried to try it, read the reviews. There's 19,000 plus five star reviews. People absolutely love this coffee. And it's, it's incredible. This weekend we're doing 20 off with promo code War room. So Warpath coffee. Promo code war room. And 20 off. So Warpath Coffee promo code war room. 20 off for the weekend.
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A
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H
One of my friends, Ty woods, he was a teammate and a great friend. He was one of the guys I looked up to. I knew him day one in the SEAL teams. He was there. He was killed. And then Glenn Doherty, he Was actually Glenn and I, we both worked at the agency and him and I were roommates in Afghanistan. I knew him from the West Coast SEAL teams. So it hit harder when these, both these guys were killed. And I. When, you know, Hillary, she turned down like I think it was, I can't remember. It was over 600 requests for security upgrades for the consulate in Benghazi, Libya. And I think if so if a lot of those requests were filled, that that attack wouldn't have happened. It couldn't have happened. The gates were unlocked, there's no cameras. But, you know, it was, it was crazy the way it went down. And all the other agencies and groups like Red Cross and stuff had left Benghazi because the threat was so high. So I created T shirts. They were Hillary Clinton killed my friends. Let me grab one. Sorry. This T shirt, this is a skateboard deck. But we did these Hillary Clinton kill my friends. Because I wanted to raise awareness about what happened in Benghazi. It was, it was negligence why that happened. And I still believe that a rescue team could have gotten there in time. But regardless of that, the attack never should have happened at Benghazi. So yeah, my two teammates, Navy SEALs Ty woods and Glen Dougherty, they were there. They were killed in the morning after from a mortar attack. And I don't think it should have happened. That consulate should have been hardened and that they should have been able to repel that attack. The terrorists should have been able to just push the gate open and walk in the compound.
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A
Trey Gowdy, I think when he botched the Benghazi hearing, which was a complete debacle, I think they actually allowed that Hillary Clinton wanted to take the oath, not on camera, but in a private room beforehand. He agreed. The whole thing was a debacle. Were Ty Wood and Glenn Daughert, were they good men?
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H
Oh, yeah, they're. They're both incredible guys. You know, Ty was a family man. His wife Dorothy, and he's got kids and you know, I, I knew him all when we're in the SEAL teams way back in the day. And then he was doing contracting, he was working at the agency. He was just, he was a top notch, like stellar operator, stellar guy, stellar father. And then Glenn, Glenn was. Glenn was one of those guys who just, just take the shirt off his back and give it to you. He was such a good dude. He was such a, a nice guy. He was just a great guy all around. And they were both there. They both fought all night long. They're at the CIA consulate. They Went to the, to the State Department. They're at the CIA outstation, we call them. And they went to the CIA consulate. They, they rescued 28 State Department Americans. The, I think with the guys, Sean Smith, he was a communication guy, he was killed. And then the Ambassador Stevens, he was killed. They weren't able to rescue them, but they rescued 28Americans that night. And then the next morning they were killed in the early hours of the morning from a mortar attack. So amazing people.
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A
And we, and we never got justice for those individuals, Correct?
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H
Nope. Nope.
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A
Zuckerberg, when you start selling these. When you start selling these shirts and they blowing out, Zuckerberg shut you down, correct?
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H
Yes, we sold the shirts for a few years and then in 2020 through that account, it was actually called Project Warpath. And the Project Warpath account, I posted something about the 2020 election being stolen. I posted a picture of the. The voter fraud graph from Wisconsin. And then they indefinitely suspended all our advertising accounts. And they shadow banned the accounts on Facebook and Instagram to the point where you couldn't find them anymore. And then Google would constantly say our account needs to be verified. So we couldn't run Google Ads because we used to run. We surrender was $100,000 a month in Google and Facebook ads. And you know, it was profitable. And then they shut it down overnight when we posted the voter fraud graph from Wisconsin.
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A
Voter fraud, brother. We're getting that later. I'm also get you back on about Afghanistan. We got a bolt now. One more time. Where do people go to get the greatest coffee ever made?
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H
Warpath coffees promo code, war room. 20% off this weekend. Warpath coffee promo code, war room.
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And you're not hearing that from Taj Gill and Stephen K. Bannon. You're hearing that from your compadres. 19,000 of them. Make sure you go and give a. Give a review, whatever it is. If it's a one star, give us a one star. It's a five star. Give us a five star. Tage Gill. Honored to have you on here, brother.
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H
Thank you, Steve.
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A
Benghazi. People forget that, right? Mike Lindell, Tell me about the greatest sale in the history of the universe. In the history of my pillow, sir.
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Mike Lindell, one more time. Where do we go right now to get this? Where do they go, sir?
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