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Interviewer
For you is that Mr. Fauci received a preemptive pardon from former President Joe Biden covering his time in the lead on some of these COVID 19 issues.
Natalie G. Winters
Do you or.
Interviewer
And the White House believe that charges could still be brought against Dr. Fauci going forward?
Stephen K. Bannon
I love the question, and here's why it's important today. Fauci, if he lies to Congress today, then the pardon has no bearing because this is a crime he's committed since the pardon. So he's got a really hard choice. I believe when push comes to shove, he is going to do either one of two things. He is going to cite the Fifth Amendment and blame people trying to lynch him on the Hill. It's like, no, no. He's either going to cite the Fifth amendment or he's going to have a really bad dose of I can't recall. But the problem with I can't recall is all we have to do is read his diaries and see what he had to say to prov. That he is a liar. So it's going to be a really interesting thing, but for the American people. I just. Please understand this man. I fought him. I was the only guy fighting him. And it cost me a lot because he was. He was the guy. But he lied to you repeatedly in ways which had material effects on people dying, people getting sick. And don't even get me started on the vaccine issue, because there's all sorts of things we could talk about there. And the problem with the vaccine ultimately was that Fauci and Pfizer didn't give us the data, which was beginning to show that we should have more concern about whether people were taking that vaccine.
Dr. Anthony Fauci
The answer is, if there are oversight hearings, I absolutely will cooperate fully and testify before the Congress. Have asked. You may not know, but I have testified before the Congress a few hundred times, okay. Over the last 40 years or so. So I have no trouble testifying. We can defend and explain and stand by everything that we've said. So I have nothing to hide. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Medical Expert / Vaccine Critic
We haven't acknowledged these injection injuries. These people can't get treatment. They're being gaslit by their doctors. So it's all in your head. The rate of the injection injured of suicides is increasing because they've given up hope. Because our medical establishment, federal health agencies completely failed them. Failing to acknowledge it.
Host / Interviewer
Sell them all. Run for office. Run for the United States Senate. Here I am sitting in front of you six years later saying who the do you think you were for doing that? It is a total disgrace what you did to this country. And if my Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you, I hope the voters of the United States of America watch the clips of every one of you doting on a guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than saving American people.
Interviewer / Questioner
Honesty. Like taking the Fifth, huh, doc? Let's try something. What day of the week is it today?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Interviewer / Questioner
What color tie you're wearing?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Interviewer / Questioner
What color is the carpet in front of you?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Interviewer / Questioner
Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned. As you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown versus Walker, 1896. When he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that your lawyer is sitting behind you now, shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people.
Medical Expert / Vaccine Critic
But I use this chart as a comparison. So we've got Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. These are average. Again, ava's doesn't improve causation, but you know, there's correlation. It's there for safety signals. So Ivermectin, over 30 years of FDA reports 17 deaths per year. Hydroxychloroquine, over 38 years of reporting 142 deaths per year. Remdesivir over five and a half years. 546 deaths per year. The COVID injection, almost 7,000 deaths per year. Which is safest? What did the FDA freak us out about? Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine when they turn a complete blind's eye toward the injections.
Interviewer / Questioner
You say that the COVID 19 pandemic has informed how the second Trump administration is approaching public health and whether you think we are now more prepared for another possible pandemic.
Public Health Analyst
I think we're less prepared. I think you're right, though. I think the first two years of the pandemic created a lot of anger in this country. I think in that first year when we didn't have anything, we didn't have antivirals till October of 2021. Sorry, 2020. We didn't have monoclonal antibodies in November of 2020, didn't have vaccines till December of 2020. We didn't have anything. Virus was killing hundreds of people a day. It was spread asymp. So what do we do? We closed schools, shutter businesses, restricted travel, isolated quarantine, social distance. And that made a lot of people angry. They thought that was massive government overreach. In year two, 2021, when we had a vaccine, you couldn't go anywhere without your vaccine card, right? You can go to your favorite bar, restaurants, sporting event. You may not. You may be fired from work. That also really upset people. And I think that what you're seeing is this sort of libertarian backlash. This all under the name of sort of medical freedom movement, which is like in many ways sort of an anti science, anti public health movement. And that's what today was. It was sort of a theater of the absurd with the themes being anti science, anti public health, anti expertise.
Natalie G. Winters
You think that the DOJ should reopen
Investigative Commentator
the investigation to the auto pen specifically pertaining to Fauci?
Legal Analyst
Well, the only thing you can really think about is the auto pen, because the most powerful thing the president has, they say, is the power of pardon. So he was pardoned by Biden. And I respect that. I know how powerful it is. It's a very powerful. They say it's literally the most powerful thing a president has. Now, whether or not I sign my things directly, always almost everything I sign directly. You witness to many of them. He signed very few. The only thing I know that he signed was Hunter Biden's pardon, but I'm not sure that he signed. He probably didn't sign this one. So I can't tell you what the law is. I've heard that you have to have a lot of proof. You need to have letters, you need to have all sorts of things that the person operating the auto pan has to know exactly what it's all about. He didn't know what it was about. Because I saw him testify. So maybe there's something on the auto pan other than that. The power of pardon is very powerful.
Interviewer
You called our governor, Governor DeSantis, and I'm going to quote this, so I get it right, right out of your journals, a total jerk, that he is a complete disgrace, that he is blocking local authorities from mandating masks in various locations, including schools. And you were very concerned and upset that we were actively, and I'm going to quote, criticizing you. And we talked to her virtually every day about being wrong on everything. And what is astounding is that you wrote you feared because of that, because we were questioning our government, because we were fighting back for the truth from our government, from scientifically based recommendations, because we were pushing for that. You said you feared that our democracy is in dire danger.
Host / Interviewer
So let me ask you an opportunity to answer one question. Will you apologize? Just apologize to the people who you harmed through your actions. Will you say, do you have the dignity to just say you're sorry?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Host / Interviewer
So you won't apologize to the military members who Joe Biden summarily dismissed from the military for not taking the vaccine?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Host / Interviewer
Will you apologize to the business owners that lost their business, shattered their lives, and they'll never recover?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Host / Interviewer
Will you apologize to the moms who had to force their infant children, 2, 3, 4 year olds, to put masks on and what that did and how that traumatized those kids.
Dr. Anthony Fauci
Under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution?
Host / Interviewer
Will you apologize to the family members of the people who died because they took your advice and not only got the first vaccine, but the five, six other boosters that they did not need.
Dr. Anthony Fauci
To answer. Based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Host / Interviewer
Will you apologize to that mom from Ohio for being arrested for watching a football game with her family?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Host / Interviewer
So you didn't know who wrote the fifth Amendment? It's James Madison lived in this town. I can only wonder what he would think of somebody like you invoking his writings to shield culpability for the actions that you took.
Stephen K. Bannon
Wednesday, 29th July, year of the Lord, 2026. Today was great, but work. Now comes the action. The mainstream media. I know this because my phone was Blown up. People outraged that the Senate would do this today, saying, how can you do this?
Co-host / Commentator
You're just trying to divert.
Stephen K. Bannon
We watch your show.
Public Health Analyst
You're.
Stephen K. Bannon
You ban and you're trying to divert away from the economy, the war. Oh, no, au contraire. We'll take those head on. And we don't agree with all the, all the, all the policy decisions. We don't have to. The policies. They're looking at a range of alternatives. They get more information than we do. Oftentimes they're going to do what they're going to do. Maybe we can try to influence that by laying out some alternatives. And maybe the audience gets interested enough, maybe make a phone call or send a text or an email on occasion. But this is in our wheelhouse, baby. Remember the 20th of January, 2020, we, the show went from warm impeachment to one hour of impeachment. The rest of the show turned to war room pandemic.
Interviewer / Questioner
Why?
Stephen K. Bannon
We knew this was big. We're also the first one to report when Peter Navarro. Navarro called it. This is how good Navarro is. He called it this morning on C Span an hour before he got going. He said, the guy's going to take the fifth. It's going to take the fifth. Navarro gotten a throwdown with that, with that, with that murdering monster in the situation, I think on the 23rd about quarantines coming back here to the United States where he's telling Trump, oh, you can't do that. You can't quarantine God from coming from China. Why would you quarantine? Foushee is a narcissist, megalomania, all that. But it's not simply what they're trying to do. Is Fouche.
Co-host / Commentator
He's a bad guy.
Stephen K. Bannon
Baba.
Co-host / Commentator
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's the system. We have a systemic problem. That is what our fight is, to deconstruct the administrative state and to give a hammer blow to the deep state. A hammer blow. I was talking to people today and said, well, Fauci's got got a pardon.
Co-host / Commentator
I don't care.
Stephen K. Bannon
He's got 20 other people that directly reported him. They're guilty of crimes.
Co-host / Commentator
Where's their indictment? Where's the grand jury? Where's the action?
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm so tired of people whining, well, we can't do it because I don't know, he's got a pardon.
Co-host / Commentator
Screw the pardon.
Stephen K. Bannon
His lawyer doesn't think the pardon works.
Co-host / Commentator
He wouldn't have him up there taking a fifth. Action, action, action.
Stephen K. Bannon
We need to Play ball. We need to play hardball.
Co-host / Commentator
Where is doj? Where is the FBI? Where is H. A? Where are you guys? Hello?
Stephen K. Bannon
These are national security problems. Fauci is a monster that roams the earth.
Co-host / Commentator
Why is no one around him? Why is Collins? Why have you not indicted that demon?
Stephen K. Bannon
All of them.
Co-host / Commentator
Indict them.
Stephen K. Bannon
Make them spend millions of dollars, their own money, and think about nothing else in the waiting years when we want to kick back. No, we're going to prosecute you for life in prison.
Co-host / Commentator
The left knows how to do this. They're relentless.
Stephen K. Bannon
They will not give up. The inaction, the excuses. Oh, I thought, oh, Fauci's got a pardon.
Co-host / Commentator
Who says he's got a pardon?
Stephen K. Bannon
Who says he's got a pardon?
Co-host / Commentator
Have we fully investigated that?
Stephen K. Bannon
I haven't seen it.
Co-host / Commentator
Have we fully guessed that his lawyer
Stephen K. Bannon
clearly doesn't think he's got one. Got him up there taking a fifth,
Co-host / Commentator
getting humiliated because he knows he would go to prison.
Stephen K. Bannon
They threw the lawyer out. The lawyer is a fighter. Of course I'd throw him out. Why do they fight and we roll over on everything? They're getting rid of Bill Pulte, the
Co-host / Commentator
most successful cabinet member they have had.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Interviewer / Questioner
Say that the COVID 19 pandemic has informed how the second Trump administration is approaching public health and whether you think we are now more prepared for another possible pandemic,
Public Health Analyst
I think we're less prepared. I think you're right, though. I think the first two years of the pandemic created a lot of anger in this country. I think in that first year when we did, we didn't have anything. We didn't have antivirals till October of 2021. Sorry, 2020. We didn't have monoclonal antibodies in November of 2020. Didn't have vaccines till December of 2020. We didn't have anything. Virus was killing hundreds of people a day. It was spread asymptomatically. So what do we do? We closed schools, shuttered businesses, restricted travel, isolated quarantine, social distance. And that made a lot of people angry. They thought that was massive government overreach. In year two, 2021, when we had a vaccine, you couldn't go anywhere without your vaccine card, right? You can get. Go to your favorite bar, restaurants, sporting event. You may not. You may be fired from work. That also really upset people. And I think that what you're seeing is this sort of libertarian backlash. This all under the name of sort of medical freedom movement, which is like, in many ways sort of an anti science, anti public health movement. And that's what today was. It was sort of a theater of the absurd with the themes being anti science, anti public health, anti expertise.
Interviewer
They're.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're absurd. Let's start by arresting this guy.
Co-host / Commentator
Theater of the absurd.
Stephen K. Bannon
Fauci is a mass murderer. A mass murderer. Oh, this is anti science. Tell me where the anti science was. Look at his emails and text messages.
Co-host / Commentator
Compared to what he said and compared
Stephen K. Bannon
to what we know about reality, that
Co-host / Commentator
guy right there is.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're part of the problem, dude. Fauci's got 20 or 25 people around him. Birch, all of them.
Co-host / Commentator
Why are they not in front of a grand jury? And why are they not in front
Stephen K. Bannon
of a grand jury that's not in Washington, D.C. let's go out someplace to
Co-host / Commentator
maybe where they destroyed cities and communities and young lives.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, I don't know.
Co-host / Commentator
I can pick a half a dozen. Why hasn't a grand jury been impaneled? Today was great, but that was.
Stephen K. Bannon
That was dramatic. It was theater.
Co-host / Commentator
It was amazing. Where is the action? And to know that we're going to have a vote next week. No, have a vote tonight. You passed Jay Clayton quick enough. You had to get Pulte out of there. When the apparatus wants to do something, it'll Move. Got to get Pulte out of there. Got to get Pulte in. Politico reports today it's Ratcliffe depicting. We had the corrupt, incompetent CIA that has helped get us into this war, helped get us into this war in a dead end by their bad analysis because the Mossad's controlling them. And now we know from Politico that Radcliffe picked Clayton, who did nothing at the sec. And yet they move heaven and earth in the middle of the night. They come back from the funeral. They'll work late to get Clayton to get Pulte out of there. Why? Pulte is a patriot. He's done more than all the other cabinet members. Why he went in there and shredded it in four weeks against enormous, enormous
Stephen K. Bannon
fight from the deep state. That's why they want him out of there.
Co-host / Commentator
Clayton, you better be delivering. You better. We're going to dog you every day. You better be delivering, bro. You did nothing at the sec. And here's how corrupt it is. He's general counsel of Alibaba. When they go public, that's where he makes his money. Not a Sullivan or Cromwell. There's not even any questions asked about that. Virtually nothing. And they've now designated a military technology company, which we argued about years ago. So now you have a guy that made his money off a ccp, People's Liberation army, military technology companies, head of dni.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's fine.
Co-host / Commentator
Because when the system wants to move to protect the system, there's nothing or
Stephen K. Bannon
standing in their way.
Co-host / Commentator
No Rand Paul, don't wait till we're
Stephen K. Bannon
going to circulate and going to have a vote.
Co-host / Commentator
Maybe next week. No, have it tonight. What else do you need to know? You wonder why people are furious. You wonder why so many people are not showing up. You know why? Small dollar donations are zero. This is the reason. You can have that guy come in here and mock the Make America Healthy Again movement and mock maga. They're anti science and we're all puffed up, folks. If they went into November, this is what you're going to get every day. It's coming back. The transgender, the dei. It ain't left.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's gone underground.
Co-host / Commentator
Like the Marxists know how to go underground.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's why you gotta stop calling it Communism. It's Marxism. Here's why. Here's why they're not communists.
Co-host / Commentator
This is all run by big donors. Big donors that are cultural Marxist. They're atheist, they hate the United States. They hate Christianity.
Stephen K. Bannon
Biggest thing they hate, I don't know, heterosexual Christian males.
Co-host / Commentator
Maybe not the top of the list,
Stephen K. Bannon
but close to the top of the list.
Co-host / Commentator
But they want all the money for themselves among the richest people in the history of the earth. Action, Action, action. No, we don't need a convention in Texas. We don't need all these other fundraising. You need to generate interest by the grassroots that will go door to door, that will canvas, that understands the power and the potential of Trump. He didn't have Trump. You would have a country. And right there, Fauci and all that,
Stephen K. Bannon
it's all coming back.
Co-host / Commentator
If you don't take care of it
Stephen K. Bannon
now, it's all coming back.
Co-host / Commentator
They're just gone underground. They're in hibernation. They're all coming back. The transgender men. Madness.
Stephen K. Bannon
DEI Fauci, this whole thing, the, the, the, the medical serfdom. Well, this is a libertarian.
Co-host / Commentator
A libertarian.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is a libertarian movement of people that you know are crazy or anti science activism.
Co-host / Commentator
After all of that that was put out today, you have the gall and the balls and CNN just sits there, the morons interview.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, that's quite interesting.
Co-host / Commentator
They're all, they're all going nuts today. Where are the lawsuits against Pfizer? Where are the lawsuits against big media? Where the lawsuits against the individual host that push this narrative day after day after day after day. And where the. What about the social media platforms, tech bros hanging around, going to do this, going to do that. Let's get them all, round them up. They all got to go to prison. Hey.
Stephen K. Bannon
Because they're going to do it.
Co-host / Commentator
Trust me. Trust me.
Stephen K. Bannon
And Fauci's sitting there looking all long in the tooth and mopey and old like a little old man.
Yes.
Fauci's a megalomania. He's a narcissist, he's a purely evil guy. That's not the problem. The system is the problem. The system that gives Anthony Fauci power, the system that protects Anthony Fauci, the system that makes up Anthony Fauci to be some modern saint and modern hero.
Co-host / Commentator
That's the problem.
Stephen K. Bannon
Wade Allen Brute, your thoughts, sir?
Wayne Allen Root
Well, I think it's all connected. And I've said this for years. I believe that the COVID vaccine, the pandemic, the mail in ballots, the stolen 2020 election, Dr. Fauci, the deaths, the Democrat Party, the deep state, the Chinese Communist Party, it's all connected. I said from day one, this was a purposeful attack on the United States. And I said from day one, China wanted to end Trump's presidency. I said from day one, the Democrat Party was in cahoots with China. I said from day one. Dr. Fauci was in cahoots with the Democrat Party in China to destroy Trump's presidency, to destroy Trump's economy, to make sure that everyone was scared to death with frauds like lockdowns and social distancing and masks. All of them were pure fraud in theater. And the whole intent was to scare the American people so that they'd be afraid to vote in person, so that they would vote by literally mail in ballot only and ballot harvesting and ballot drop boxes. They would never want to stand in line and vote. They were scared to death. And what did you do when you introduced mail in ballots? You introduced the stolen election. That's where the fraud came from. The mail in ballots, the ballot harvesting, the ballot drop boxes with no voter id. It's all tied together. I've said for years now, the Democrat Party. I grew up in a mafia neighborhood. I grew up in a total Italian mafia neighborhood. These guys are the Gambinos, except they've got the government behind them now instead of the government against them. The Gambinos are the government. Who ever heard of standing in front of the United States Senate and taking the fifth 111 times? Only mobsters do that. This guy Fauci's organized crime, that idiot that you just showed on tv, what is it offit? He's the biggest vaccine pusher in the world. These guys are paid by big Pharma. They're so greedy. They don't care if millions die with deadly, untested vaccines. They don't care about anything except winning. If they control the government, they make you get vaccinated and you die.
Stephen K. Bannon
And it's going to happen again. Don't think it's going away. It's gone underground.
Co-host / Commentator
They're hibernating on.
Stephen K. Bannon
On transgender ideology dei, the vaccine, all of it. They're just hiding.
Co-host / Commentator
That's why they got to be rooted. You got to be. They got to be dug out, root and branch now.
Stephen K. Bannon
And like the Romans, we got to get some Roman justice.
Co-host / Commentator
We have to salt the earth around it like they did at Carthage, tear it down, insult the earth around it
Stephen K. Bannon
so it can never grow back.
Co-host / Commentator
China Xi should bring a big checkbook
Stephen K. Bannon
when he comes to see the president at the state visit in September. How many trillions of dollars does the Chinese Communist Party owe the American people, Sir?
Wayne Allen Root
At least $10 trillion. Maybe it's $15 trillion. They sent Covid to us at the exact moment that a Trump was winning the trade wars with China. And B, he was winning the election, it was going to be a landslide because he had the greatest runaway exploding economy in history. And they had to destroy it. And this was all a purposeful attack on the United States of America by China, by the Chinese Communist Party in cahoots with the Democrat Party. And the guy coordinated it all, started it all, funded it all. Dr. Anthony Fauci. This is an incredible conspiracy. You know what's funny, Steve? They all call me a conspiracy theorist. I've been on TV for. I've had my own shows for 11 years now. Going on 12 years. Every single conspiracy I've ever talked about has been proven true. Every single one of them. And you go to MSNBC and cnn, every conspiracy they talk about has never turned out to be true. It's all made up conspiracies. So they call us. What did Sarlinsky say? Look in the mirror and whatever you see, blame it on your opposition. So they are the conspiracy theorists. We tell raw truth, you and I tell truth after truth, after truth. They ban us, they censor us, they call us conspiracy theorists. But we know exactly what the truth is. These guys are murderers, mass murderers, and crimes against humanity. And this guy Fauci should hang. If found guilty, he should hang. Let's go a jury of his peers, he should hang.
Stephen K. Bannon
But let's take 25 guys around him and hit him with a blowtorch. I want indictments on the 25 people around Fauci. Fauci's got a pardon. We'll dig down on that. We got a separate deal. We'll go dig down that. But let's indict the 25 round. Let's go get Collins's boss. Okay. That guy's so high in my. They're all puffed up. Let's see how puffed up they are after we indicted with crimes. Hang on a second. I'll hold you through the break. Come right back to you. Wayne, wait on Roots with us. Natalie G. Winners I think is going to be with us too. One of the great investigators about Dr. Fauci. Next in the war room. You know, just a few years ago, if you told someone you were stocking up on emergency food, they would have called you a tinfoil hatch conspiracy theorist. Not anymore. We've all seen supply chain chaos, devastating natural disasters, inflation, war, civil run rest and preparedness has gone mainstream. That's why we're so excited to partner with my Patriot Supply, America's original Patriot preparedness company. Right now, they're celebrating America's America's 250 with one of the best deals they've ever offered. $250 off their best selling six month food supply available now at preparewithbannon.com that is a homepage gave us just for the war and posse preparewith bandit.com this is the exact same survival brand trusted by over 3 million American families. Now why is that? Because they deliver 2,000 calories a day. Their food lasts up to 25 years without refrigeration and it contains no, I repeat, no GMOs or artificial colors or artificial flavors. And you can count on it to keep your family fed no matter what the emergency is. Even at full price, it's still the best decision you'll make for your family with a $250 discount. It's a no brainer. Go to our own homepage with my patriot supply, that is preparewithbannon.com to get your emergency food kit today. That's preparewithbannon.com do it and do it today.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Wayne, you've got so much content out there. It's all great. Where do people go to get the podcast? Where they go to get particularly the call in show your coordinates on social media. Where is it, sir?
Wayne Allen Root
Sure, it's root for America.com is the website. Root for America.com easy to remember. It's what I do all day. I root for this country. My TV shows, America's Top 10 Countdown on RAV on weekends, following your show on Saturday mornings, noon Eastern, 9am Pacific and then my new show every single night, Monday through Friday. It's America Speaks. It's a call in show. It starts in about 25 minutes. You can call in live and talk to me. 1-800-347-root 1-800-347-root and you can email me anytime. Waynrootmail.com One quick comment, Steve. You say if they win, then we're dead. They're coming back after us. They've weaponized government. They're back with everything bad. Dei, taxes, regulations, vaccines. Well, guess what? That's why we need what I talk about in your show so many times. A national security emergency for elections. The Senate will never pass the SAVE act. I said that from the first day. That's why I came up with this idea. This idea to overcome the Senate national security emergency. It can only be declared by the president of the United States. And how do you know Foushee's bad? They pardoned him. Why did they pardon him? He's not a Politician. Why did they pardon a doctor? Because it's all tied together with the stolen election and the mail in ballots. They're scared to death that you'll find out Fauci was in the middle of all of it.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're trying to get all kind of gimmicks. They say they got to go home to get the support. 97% of Republicans are 99% Republican support. They don't need to go anywhere. It's all gimmicks they're trying to do now. It's never going to pass. We need the national security emergency and all the documents like an EO to take action today. The president's going to do it. You're laying the predicates being laid perfectly. This is why Pulte is so important. So Jay has got to. Clayton has got a big shoes to fill and every day we're going to be dogging him on like where's the next release of this Wayne Allen root? Thank you sir. Appreciate you and appreciate your brief.
Dr. Anthony Fauci
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Construct of this national security emergency. It's coming. It's coming. Take your number two principal out. Just block the last week of August. It's coming, Fauci. If we can't take care of this one, let's give it up. Okay. You agree we're in agreement. I'm gonna show you right now.
Public Health Analyst
We're gonna.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Investigative Commentator
The sense that the Chinese Communist Party seeks to decouple western scientists from the west from America and have them effectively pledge their allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party and frankly the National Institutes of Health and especially Fauci's NIAID really subscribes to that mentality. It was only this year, March of 2021, that the Wuhan Institute of Virology scrubbed the National Institutes of Health as a research partner from their website. It was also that same time frame that they deleted the names of military linked and military funded researchers from China who had been collaborating with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. So as we keep hearing, whether it's Fauci, whether it's Ray, whether it's Biden calling for increased investigations into the origins of COVID 19, we have a lot of the information already, whether it's Dr. Yan, whether it's the Wuhan Institute of Virology's website itself, and what they're choosing to delete the information is there. We just need people who aren't compromised by the Chinese Communist Party to actually act on it. I think that there's more revisionist history going on in this entire interview than you see with the 1619 Project in Critical Race Theory. For Dr. Fauci to stand up there and say that he's been at the forefront of trying to get to the bottom of where COVID 19 came from and how he's actually been open to investigations into the lab and pushing for transparency. Transparency. That is completely wrong. Completely bogus. So misguided. So, I mean, I don't even know what to say.
Co-host / Commentator
Natalie, hold it. You're too nice, you're too sweet, and you're too. Well, your parents did too. Good job. That is a bald face pathological lie, is it not, ma'?
Interviewer
Am?
Investigative Commentator
Oh, entirely. There's an article from 2020. I'll read you the headline from National Geographic, which also happens to be the same entity that's publishing his forthcoming book, if that happens to actually come out. But the headline is Fauci Colon. No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab. So this is the same man who's been doing media rounds saying that COVID 19 there was absolutely no possibility that it could have come from a Chinese lab. It was only when the National Pulse and other outlets started really getting to the bottom of it, pointing out links which we'll talk about later in the show, specifically in the form of Dr. Fauci headlining a conference featuring none other than the Wuhan Institute of Virology's Batwoman Shijong Lee. It was only then that he may be admitted that there was a slight possibility that COVID 19 could have come from a Chinese lab. So I don't want to Hear it from Dr. Fauci.
Interviewer / Questioner
Oh, no, I do I want to hear all of it from Dr. Fauci.
Natalie G. Winters
Sure.
Investigative Commentator
Well, I think the reason that Foushee keeps moving the goalposts, whether it's mandates, no fly lists, as he appears to endorse, I think the heart of the issue is that they don't ever want this pandemic to end. Because on the other side of this pandemic, when all this craziness is over, then comes accountability, then comes the investigations, frankly, what should be criminal investigations into the conduct, not just starting in 2019, but going all the way back to the early 2000 when the NIH was spearheading and pursuing collaboration with Chinese military linked labs on gain of function research, which we now know, whether it's from FOIA emails, our reporting at the national polls did indeed occur at the Wuhan Institute of Virology all the way through 2014 when that, you know, multimillion dollar taxpayer backed grant was funding research again at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But that's why these people keep wanting to kind of change the metrics.
Natalie G. Winters
For what exactly?
Investigative Commentator
Successes in the pandemic. So now it's, you know, we need 110% of people to be vaccinated and you need three vaccines. And believe me, by the time the midterms come around, I'm sure you'll need a fourth vaccine. And the Democrats want, you know, probably the midterm variant to come about so they can ensure mail in voting and secure another fix for the 2022 midterm. So I think everything that you're seeing on the screen right now, it's all about politics.
Natalie G. Winters
It's all about power.
Investigative Commentator
And that's what it always has been. I think if you look at the voices that they've elevated to try to get you to take the vaccine, and I'm not talking about the Zuckerberg funded teenagers, but when they wheel Fauci out to tell you to take the vaccine, vaccine, it's like Fauci and all these people who are, you know, have worked at the NIH for so long. These are the people who created the problem. Right. They helped create COVID 19. So why are they the voices that are being elevated to fix COVID 19? I don't trust the people who thought it was a good idea to fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology to tell me what to do with my body. And frankly, I think it's just the broader problem that you see in the American establishment, that is the people have created all these problems, whether it's the Biden Family in China, Fauci funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology. They're now telling us how we need to fix the problems that they created and I'm sure profited from.
Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie, given your investigative reporting, remember the 60 Minutes embarrass themselves. All the media embarrass themselves. Today. They're running dogs trying to protect it. What's your assessment of what you saw with the questioning and with Fauci today?
Natalie G. Winters
Ma', am, it's so in your face. I mean, we talk about all the time on this show, the administrative state, the deep state, the unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats. This is that, but like on steroids. And you are actually getting to watch it in real time. But I think if you really go through sort of the irony and metaphorical significance of almost every moment of it, I mean, truly, you can only be left with outrage. Starting with the fact that his super expensive, super high bar lawyers, the team of what, a dozen plus literally he can only support and pay those people because of the profits that he made from the pandemic, the book deals, the celebrity status, the weird companies that he secretly joined the board of that are dealing in pandemics and MRNA technology. For someone who it seems like had never read the Constitution before, given how he dealt with the pandemic, it's quite ironic to watch him invoking the Fifth Amendment and Mr. I'm the science. Trust me, I am the science. I missed that step in the scientific method where you get to invoke the fifth Amendment. Steve, we have been so right about this for so long. And my criticism and my exasperation there is honestly not even directed at, frankly, that literal retard that they had on cnn. I didn't know. I'm a libertarian. That's news to me, Steve. I guess the war room is home of libertarian maxing now, but it's really directed at the Republican establishment. I mean, Rand Paul, Senator Rand Paul, I get it, you're working an uphill battle, but you've had what, four years plus to today to make the case. It was kind of all over the place. I still struggle to follow it and I know these documents better than anyone. And I would encourage this audience, like we have on every single issue, separated the signal from the noise. The noise is clapping like seals at the clips about Fauci. And the signal is that he was the tip of the spear. The chosen poster child now should be turned fall guy for a scientific industrial complex in Washington, D.C. that is aided and abetted by an ideological Brainwashing of the Chinese Communist Party that is both borderless but also welcoming and wanting to collaborate with the Chinese Communist Party because they both fundamentally misunderstand them as an existential kinetic threat, but they also are in bed with them and profiting from it. Like, you can see the weird overlap and connectivity with people like Peter Doshak and the Chinese Communist Party. And I would just also add this. Remember the sham impeachment hearings and the trials and the Hollywood documentary that they literally bought Hollywood producers on for Dan Goldman, that cast of characters, where was that? Before we even get into the actual criminal investigations, the fact that you brought Fauci there to sit when there's dozens of other people, Ralph Barrack, Foushee's entire staff, Peter Daschak, the Eco Health alliance crowd, where were they? Have they been publicly humiliated? I mean, that's the opening bid. That's what I'd start with. And Steve, we on the show have done so much reporting back. I think I was like 19 in those clips, by the way. Not making stuff up, just going to believe it or not, the actual raw materials, the primary sources, the websites, the studies looking at where the money was going, the unearthed clips. And this is the craziest thing about all of this, too, Steve. You know, we could hear, we could rattle off all the videos. We uncovered that how literally Ralph Barrick and admits to finding viruses that could kill humans, joking about how he was working to profit off of pandemics, that you should invest in PPE companies. Peter Daschak has a horde of similar videos. The Biden regime continued to give Eco Health alliance grants after. After everything that happened with COVID Their profit, their revenue as a foundation increased by. I think it was like 350%. So I'm struggling to see the ramifications and repercussions for any of these people. And when you look at what is going on now, it's great that we pulled out of the who, but that weird public health, which is a euphemism for actually weaponizing health against the public, that apparatus has only seen its funding increase, has only seen the people on their payroll and in their fold become more of an institution. Now it's maybe happening more abroad than it is here in the United States, but why wouldn't these people want to try a pandemic again? We're such clowns. We can't even get the ringleader in charge that they, like, dangle in our face where we literally get his diary. And the best we can do is some Twitter clips that sure are fun to watch. But I would actually prefer, Steve, that we were providing live commentary on Anthony Fauci being perp walked right now, not about him saying the Fifth Amendment, invoking it, you know, 100 plus times. So I get it. The neocons, the Republicans who probably want us to lose the midterms so they can go back to just going on TV doing nothing and then at least they don't have to act like they actually pretend I want to do something on the border but I can't. But today is one of those days where I encourage people, do not take the bait, push for more. This is not the Fox controlled opposition era. Fauci needs to go to jail or honestly we are like all complicit and enabling the next pandemic.
Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie Brilliant. Where do they go get you? What's your social media on that note? It's such a perfect ending. Where do folks go to get your substack and all your content?
Natalie G. Winters
Natalie G. Winters on all platforms And I think you're vindicated on the head on a pike comment. I'm just going to say it.
Stephen K. Bannon
I tell you what, to look at those clips with Bosobic and Raheem when you were at National Pulse back when you're 18, 19 years old. It's amazing. The reason you nail it is you did the hard work to get there and we got to do the hard work to put these people in prison. Natalie G. Winters thank you. Thank you for all your work. Who you trust with your health care matters Too many companies have forgotten what customer service is supposed to look like. That's why I appreciate businesses that still put people first. All Family Pharmacy is a family owned and operated and it shows. When you call, you can speak with a real member of their team, including a licensed pharmacist, and get answers from people who actually care. They offer more than 400 medications and getting started is very simple. Complete a secure online medical questionnaire. A licensed physician reviews your information and if appropriate, write your prescription. Then your medication is shipped directly to your door. If you're tired of big corporations and a healthcare system that treats you like a number, it's worth taking a look at All Family Pharmacy their focus on making the process straightforward and believe real customer service still matters. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com that's one word allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use promo code Bannon10 to save 10% on your order. That's all familypharmacy.com Bannon with code Bannon10. This is Family owned, family operated. These people, Michael Kunstler, his team are absolutely terrific. Take advantage of this today.
Host / Interviewer
War room.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Look, there's 25 people in the first room. Dawsack, Barrack, down. Down in Chapel Hill. All of it. They all have to go to prison. And then you go. You find out where the media was covering for them.
Co-host / Commentator
And lying.
Stephen K. Bannon
Narrative warfare. This is one of the most catastrophic events in the history of this nation. Sam. Sam Faddis. One of the most catastrophic incidents in the history of this nation. We're going to let Fauci come and just take the Fifth when he's already got a pardon? He's either got a partner, he doesn't. And we're going to subpoena him now for a On the record. That's fine. That's great.
Host / Interviewer
Just.
Stephen K. Bannon
He'll blow that off. Just do it. But don't wait till next week. Do it tonight.
Public Health Analyst
You.
Stephen K. Bannon
You stayed up at night to get Jay Clayton in. Why is Jay Clayton in? So to block Pulte from doing anything else, full stop. If Jay Clayton's going to do anything, we're going to dog him every day. Want to see it, bro? What are you releasing? And not just cuts to the DNI so the CIA can take over Ratcliffe. Ratcliffe recommended you. Politico says that. I haven't seen any denials. It had to be Ratcliffe.
Co-host / Commentator
It couldn't have been. You didn't do anything at this.
Stephen K. Bannon
At. At Southern District of New York.
Co-host / Commentator
Nothing. Because they intimidated you.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's what the deep state does. Of course they do it. You got to stand up to him. So I'm waiting Jay Clayton for all the great things you're going to reveal. We're waiting. War room is waiting. And supportive. We're very supportive.
Co-host / Commentator
But when the deep state wants to
Stephen K. Bannon
do something, they move heaven and earth. He came back last night from the funeral. We're going to stay late. No dinner tonight. We got to get Jay Clayton in. But for Fauci, we're going to talk about it, and then we're going to, you know, have a vote next week and maybe next week for a subpoena.
Co-host / Commentator
No, get them all back up.
Stephen K. Bannon
You guys haven't hit a lick. You don't work full days. This is what's going to have to go. Save America. Ain't going to get passed. They're trying. Every gimmick in the world is not going to do it because they don't
Co-host / Commentator
want to do it. What they want to do they do what they don't want to do?
Stephen K. Bannon
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Co-host / Commentator
We're still working off Biden numbers and
Stephen K. Bannon
Pelosi numbers because they won't really have appropriations. Remember single subject bill. They just won't do it because it's too hard to go to. The Democrats say we're going to make some cuts. Where am I going with this? We've had a $1.4 trillion deficit for the first nine months. You're going to have a 18 to 2 trillion.
Co-host / Commentator
Where did you hear that?
Stephen K. Bannon
A year ago.
Co-host / Commentator
Oh, War room.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Co-host / Commentator
Hell, we had the CEO of the
Stephen K. Bannon
of the IRS on a good man and he told you, hey look, I got a mandate. I got to get every penny that
Co-host / Commentator
we think you owe.
Stephen K. Bannon
We got to get Cameron Kinsey. I just want you on take a minute or two because there's all kind of talk around about October extension. Trump says I don't to pay my income tax. Please tell the Warren posse in the MACA base what reality is, ma'.
Legal Analyst
Am.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Medical Expert / Vaccine Critic
Am.
Tax Expert / Cameron Kinsey
Yep. Thank you so much.
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Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests: Natalie G. Winters, Wayne Allen Root, Investigative Commentators & Medical Experts
This episode centers on Dr. Anthony Fauci’s Senate hearing, his repeated invocation of the Fifth Amendment, and broader accusations from the War Room panel about his role in the COVID-19 pandemic response. The show explores themes of governmental accountability, the power of presidential pardons, perceived failures of public health institutions, and connections to broader claims about election integrity and the influence of the Chinese Communist Party. The tone is combative, accusatory, and highly critical of Fauci and what the hosts describe as the deep state and administrative state.
| Topic | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Opening on Fauci's potential preemptive pardon | 00:00–00:19 | | Fauci’s repeated invocation of Fifth Amendment | 01:52–10:40 | | Medical expert criticizes response to vaccine injuries | 02:47 | | Host demands apologies, Fauci pleads the Fifth | 09:09–10:40 | | Bannon on weakening of public trust | 11:02–12:03 | | Panel calls for deep state/administrative state reform | 12:46–14:28 | | Safety data on COVID treatment options | 04:43 | | Public Health Analyst on the pandemic backlash | 05:43, 16:34 | | Wayne Allen Root on pandemic, election, and China | 23:37–27:45 | | Natalie G. Winters on Wuhan lab and media failures | 33:00–37:49 | | Winters’ closing call for accountability | 43:05 |
The language throughout is acerbic, unyielding, and loaded with accusations against Fauci and a host of public officials, urging legal repercussions, profound institutional reform, and renewed grassroots activism. The episode’s narrative weaves together themes of government overreach, conspiracy, and betrayal of public trust, culminating in impassioned pleas for action and accountability.
This summary captures the essence and main arguments of Episode 5552. The podcast offers a highly partisan and adversarial critique of Dr. Fauci, mainstream public health policy, and federal oversight during the COVID pandemic, calling for legal action and institutional overhaul. Listeners are encouraged, per the hosts, to stay vigilant, demand more transparency, and support investigations—all couched in the War Room’s unapologetically combative style.