Episode 5576: The Fight For Medical Freedom

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5576

Title: The Fight For Medical Freedom
Date: August 8, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Notable Guests: Mark Beale, Tony Lyons, Eric Metaxas, Taj Gill

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Overview

This episode of Bannon’s War Room delves into two major themes:

• The urgent challenges posed by artificial intelligence (AI) and its intersection with national security, economic competition, and political leadership.
• The broader “Make America Healthy Again” (MAHA) campaign, focusing on medical freedom, government accountability (especially concerning Dr. Anthony Fauci), and the cultural pushback against censorship, Big Pharma, and unhealthy food systems.

Throughout the show, Bannon and his guests argue for aggressive action—from mandating AI guardrails to eradicating medical mandates—while championing grassroots initiatives, book publishing as cultural resistance, and entrepreneurial examples of American grit. The tone is combative, urgent, sometimes conspiratorial, and fundamentally anti-elite and anti-establishment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Artificial Intelligence: Existential Risks and Policy Paralysis

(00:18–14:36)

• AI and National Security:

  • Bannon highlights the shift from viewing AI as a “commercial situation” to a “national security situation,” raising concerns over US/China competition.
  • Mark Beale describes the anxiety among tech companies around “recursive self-improvement” (RSI)—AI systems improving themselves, potentially triggering an uncontrollable intelligence explosion.
  • Example: OpenAI model recently solved 10 long-standing math problems, 4 worthy of Fields Medals, showing superhuman abilities in AI research.

• Policy and Safety Vacuum:

  • Beale warns that the government is “flying blind” regarding AI threats—there’s only voluntary data sharing and little transparency.
  • Economic incentives are prioritizing speed over safety among AI companies, increasing existential risks.

    “Safety is taking a backseat. This is a market failure. This is a need for coordination. This is why we have a government.” — Mark Beale (05:47)

• China as Competitive Threat:

  • Both speakers urge maximum restrictions on Chinese access to AI tech, advanced chips, and university research.
  • Senate legislation (Cotton’s Chip Security Act, Banks’s AI Overwatch Act, Ricketts’s Match Act) is praised but said to be stalled in the House.

• Data Centers and Local Backlash:

  • A segment highlights the explosive growth of data centers (e.g., Project Stratos in Utah) and associated backlash over environmental impact, energy usage, and lack of local engagement.
  • Beale notes the importance of AI guardrails to regain public trust; linking data centers’ political vulnerability to the need for responsible AI governance.

Memorable Quote

“Unless we get a grip on it, it may end your life.”
— Stephen K. Bannon (02:40)

Key Timestamps

• Introduction to AI existential threat: [00:18–03:01]
• Recursive self-improvement and market pressures: [03:01–05:47]
• China/US technology arms race: [06:53–08:34]
• Data centers, grassroots politics, and public trust: [08:34–14:36]

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2. Medical Freedom, Government Accountability & MAHA (Make America Healthy Again)

(16:44–28:37)

• Contempt for Dr. Fauci; Broader Narrative:

  • Bannon and Tony Lyons celebrate Congress holding Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt, likening his actions to “crimes” against the country.
  • Lyons contrasts the severe punishments handed to “patriots” like Bannon himself with perceived impunity for Fauci:

    "You guys go to jail for four months for doing absolutely nothing. And then here's a guy, Dr. Fauci, who has done something... resulted in millions of deaths."
    — Tony Lyons (18:07)

  • Fauci is attacked for his Congressional testimony, personal self-interest, and alleged distortion of public health policy.

• Big Pharma, Censorship, and Propaganda:

  • The pharmaceutical industry is described as “the most criminal organizations in the history of the world.”
  • Media figures like CNN's Dana Bash are accused of covering up for the industry, refusing transparency on vaccine studies.

• Bobby Kennedy Jr., Cultural Shifts, and “Epic Victory”:

  • The cultural shift in Americans’ views on food, vaccines, and drugs is celebrated as a massive victory for MAHA and the broader movement against establishment narratives.

• Action Items for MAHA Supporters:

  • Work to abolish all medical mandates (vaccines, masks, etc.).
  • Demand food reform in schools and hospitals.
  • Push for government accountability and compensation for COVID vaccine injuries.

    “We need total medical freedom. We know that these companies have been out to get us, that they've been engineering food to make us addicted.”
    — Tony Lyons (24:12)

Key Timestamps

• Reflections on Fauci and Congressional action: [16:44–23:16]
• MAHA strategy, polling, and compensation push: [24:12–28:37]

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3. Culture Wars, Book Publishing & Resistance

(32:53–43:47)

• Book Censorship & Free Speech Battles:

  • Bannon and publisher Tony Lyons argue that Barnes & Noble and mainstream media are suppressing books like Eric Metaxas’s “Revolution” while artificially boosting sales of established liberal figures (e.g., Jill Biden).
  • Metaxas shares the excitement around his book’s success despite resistance from major retailers.

• History as Inspiration:

  • Metaxas makes the case that learning about the American Revolution—a struggle between good and evil, rooted in biblical principles—is essential for winning today’s cultural and political battles.

    “It's good versus evil. And when good wins, we cheer, we rejoice. We need these stories, Steve, because we need to be inspired."
    — Eric Metaxas (34:30)

• Publishing as a Form of Activism:

  • Lyons emphasizes Skyhorse’s willingness to publish controversial works as providing crucial counter-narratives in the ongoing culture war.

Key Timestamps

• Book censorship, Metaxas’s “Revolution”: [32:53–41:35]
• Skyhorse Publishing’s role and free speech: [42:26–43:47]

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4. Entrepreneurship, Patriotism, and the Warpath Coffee Story

(45:42–52:26)

• SEAL to Entrepreneur:

  • Taj Gill recounts his journey from Navy SEAL to coffee entrepreneur, emphasizing self-reinvention and American values.
  • Warpath Coffee is highlighted as a company built on the SEAL ethos of excellence and authenticity, with products meant to be enjoyed “black,” without unhealthy additives.

• Small Business as Cultural Resistance:

  • The story is presented as a metaphor for taking control, building community, and rejecting corporate homogenization, paralleling the broader themes of medical freedom and cultural resistance discussed throughout the episode.

Notable Moment

“I learned I could do other things besides shoot people and blow things up. I learned how to be an entrepreneur.”
— Taj Gill (46:26)

Key Timestamps

• SEAL to entrepreneur, coffee business philosophy: [46:26–50:13]
• Scaling and product range: [50:40–52:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• AI Existential Risk:

  "This is the primal scream of a dying regime… my task and purpose is to save my country."
  — Stephen K. Bannon (00:03–00:20)

• AI Policy Pressure:

  “If we cede this issue to the left, we're going to get blown out everywhere.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon (11:01)

• Medical Freedom Imperative:

  “There can't be any medical mandates in this country. We need total medical freedom.”
  — Tony Lyons (24:12)

• Grassroots vs. Elites:

  “They want to have books where there's nothing in it. So it's ridiculous. It’s all lies.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon (34:00)

• Culture War Reality:

  "Because we are in the midst of a culture war… To glorify what's great about this country, that's dangerous too."
  — Tony Lyons (32:53)

• Individual Reinvention:

  “I learned I could do other things besides shoot people and blow things up… I became an entrepreneur.”
  — Taj Gill (46:26)

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Summary Table of Important Segments

| Segment | Content | Timestamp | |-------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | AI Threat & RSI | Recursive self-improving AI, national security, China tensions, legislation needed | 00:18-14:36 | | Data Centers | Local backlash, political risk, environmental impact | 08:34-13:48 | | Medical Freedom | Fauci accountability, MAHA campaign, calls for compensation for vax injuries | 16:44-28:37 | | Book Resistance | Censorship of “Revolution”, the role of history, culture war in publishing | 32:53-43:47 | | Entrepreneurship | Gill’s Warpath Coffee story, small business, American resilience | 45:42-52:26 |

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Conclusion

Episode 5576 of Bannon’s War Room is a high-intensity discussion blending existential technological concerns, medical freedom activism, culture-war narratives, and entrepreneurial optimism. The tone is urgent and confrontational, with repeated calls for conservative-led solutions to AI risks and medical mandates, celebration of outsider publishing as resistance, and an embrace of “ordinary” Americans pushing back against elites.

Listeners are encouraged to:

• Join advocacy efforts (AI Policy Network, MAHA)
• Get involved locally on health and tech issues
• Read and share “dangerous” books that celebrate America’s founding values
• Support grassroots companies and exercise personal autonomy in everything from health decisions to consumer choices

For those seeking a snapshot of the WarRoom mindset in 2026—skeptical of institutions, fiercely anti-establishment, and focused on the intersections of technology, health, and culture—this episode delivers in detail.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it.

[Eric Metaxas]

I know you don't like hearing that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Saturday the 8th of August. Share Overlord 2026 I think we may have to add to that open My task and purpose is to save my country. The reason we start with Joe Allen back in what, 2020, 2021 five, six years ago, make him editor for all things transhumanism, then come out with a book, dark A and of course all his amazing, amazing stories. And he's been now covered by CNN everywhere. He's out with all these big shots on the west coast this weekend talking because they want to hear what he has to say. Particularly getting given his understanding of going around the country and explaining artificial intelligence at every small church and town hall, et cetera, it's pretty amazing. Mark Beale, I want to give you plenty of Runway because folks, everything we've warned about and we need action, action, action, and we need action today on this. It's just not going to be good enough anymore because we are in this. As I said, I gave you an interview the other day. This is not a commercial situation anymore. This is a national security situation. When I said about giving another task and purpose to save your country, yo on your shoulders, I think is to save our species. And I don't say that lightly and not trying to stroke your ego. This is what the reason we said transhumanism years ago with Joe because remember we took the top five or six things out of the made in China 2025. You know, quantum computing, advanced chip design, CRISPR and gene splicing, regenerative robotics. And at the top of that was artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence. And now they're telling Axios, the CEOs, that on that lane that is artificial intelligence. They believe they're entering the first stages of the singularity. So Mark, you were just about to explain what that means and how so Take number two principles out and write this one down because you're going to hear a lot more about it. And yes, it is going to change your life and unfortunately, unless we get a grip on it, it may end your life. Mark Beal, what do you got?

[Mark Beale]

You know, I know there's this temptation that some of this sounds scary and sci fi like. And unfortunately this is the world we now find ourselves in. And the critical issue is that we don't understand what happens when once they light off this process, the companies light off this process called recursive self improvement. This RSI as it's known, is when an AI model builds the next version of itself. And there could be some constraints and some ways that this doesn't go in, basically an explosion. But some people are thinking that this could be like a nuclear chain reaction, the endpoint at which we simply do not know. And that is creating a lot of anxiety among the companies in the labs themselves. And remember what you need to be really good at AI research. You need to, you need good research taste, you need to be really good at math, and you need to be really good at coding. And just last week One of the OpenAI models cracked 10 open problems in advanced mathematics and confronted computer science that had been stumping humans now for decades. Four of those problems were considered fields metal worthy breakthroughs. And that's why the singularity discussion is now on the table. If an AI can do this well at math, this well at software engineering, can it can do AI research in a superhuman way. It's going to be able to take control almost like digital gain of function. You know, like in biology when researchers like increase the lethality or transmissibility of these viruses. That's called gain of function research. Well, in a similar way we have digital gain of function research going on right now with this RSI process, recursive self improvement. And the government's flying blind. It has no clue what's going on with this. As far as I can tell, they're not talking publicly about their understanding of their assessment of these threats. And right now the only thing we have is this private voluntary agreement where some companies just telling the government some information we don't really know yet. But at the end of the day I think this is going to be, this is here now. It's obviously going to be an increasingly important political issue. I think Republicans got to be leaders in this, otherwise we're going to get destroyed on the campaign trail and the Democrats are going to, are going to put this on our lap. That we dropped the ball when we were in charge here. So President Trump's leadership is needed now perhaps more than ever.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to connect some dots. I want to go back to the 1300 employees and the recursive self improvement. This is where artificial intelligence is writing its own code to improve itself. This is how you get to artificial General Intelligence. The 1300 people from the companies that it's a cry for help. They're saying if we, you got to help us out here because we can take away the competitive nature inside these companies where they're looking the other way as far as safety protocols go. Correct, Mark Beale?

[Mark Beale]

That's right. What people don't realize is like the amount of economic pressure that these companies are under, whether it's regard to their public offerings, their quest to buy ever more powerful and more computer chips, the race for market share. These are existential questions for these companies and it's pushing them to go faster and faster and faster. And as a result, safety is taking a backseat. This is a market failure. This is a need for coordination. This is why we have a government. This is why we don't believe we're not anarchists. We understand that there's sometimes a need for a federal government to do certain functions. And this is what those companies are saying right now. And this is even more complex because obviously the Chinese are right behind us and right on our heels. And so there's one, one voice that says, well, if we don't, if we slow down ourselves and the Chinese don't, then they're just going to overtake us. And that can't happen either. We have to walk and chew gum. We have to both get our arms around how we pace this technology so we can build it responsibly. And we have to make sure China is suppressed long enough for us to figure out some of these big safety pieces. You know, right now, if there's one

[Stephen K. Bannon]

thing suppressing a China, the suppression of China. We're the leaders the anti CCP movement. We have an answer. Nobody goes to university in this country. You get all the Chinese nationals out of the lab, you cut off 100% of the equity, 100% of the debt, you take away the entire ecosystem and Most importantly, you 1000% restrict any ability of them to get the most advanced chips, including the black market, where we're looking the other way. This is so phony because it's only an issue because the oligarchs continue to profit over of creating a thriving artificial intelligence ecosystem with the Chinese Communist Party. Mark Am I wrong in that you're not.

[Mark Beale]

I mean right now, thank God. The Senate version of the National Defense Authorization act has three critical bills in this regard. Senator Cotton's Chip Security Act, Senator Banks's AI Overwatch act and Senator Ricketts Match act and those three things taken together. So the Ship Security act counters the smuggling that they're doing to get our ships over there so they can build their own capabilities. Overwatch ensures congressional oversight on decisions related to who gets to buy these powerful chips. And the Match Acts tries to cut off China's ability to buy the semiconductor manufacturing equipment so that China can't make these chips domestically. Well, right now that that's being held up in the House by Republican leadership and they need to hear from the posse. They need to understand that the House needs to support these three provisions in the NDAA so that the President has the tools he needs to keep China off of this very powerful technology and give us the time and space that we need to figure out this safety question.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, we had all the governor, major gubernatorial candidates and on the Republican side, all four of them on and all of them swore that hey, data centers ain't coming to hyperscale. Data centers weren't a stop, you know, all of them. Yet the the boulevard continue to pump money into Florida. I want to play a clip and I'm going to bring Mark Beal in about data centers and being on the right side of this for the country and on the simple politics of it. Let's go.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Let it rip back from the northern tip of Utah near the Idaho border, which is sort of ground zero now in this national debate. And it's all because of this audacious proposal from a celebrity investor. Originally you wanted to develop a piece of land twice the size of Manhattan. It's now been scaled back to only the size of Manhattan into what would be basically the world's biggest. One of the world's biggest data centers. But he never quite predicted the backlash he'd see. At the northernmost edge of Utah, miles from anywhere, sits a vast no man's land, An unspoiled expanse in Box Elder county, which could soon be the site of one of the biggest data centers on the planet. It's ignited outrage across Utah. The community concerned about their already scarce resources and furious about a lack of transparency in government.

[Taj Gill]

It's not real information. Can we sit here like it's okay?

[Narrator/Reporter]

Some career politicians have already been toppled and all before a single piece of dirt has been moved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So we're going to go straight west

[Tony Lyons]

and then we'll veer south.

[Narrator/Reporter]

We wanted to understand the debate over the proposal in Utah's Hansel Valley. So we met up with Dr. Robert Davies, a physicist and a professor at Utah State University. He's emerged as one of the leading critics of something called Project Stratos.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

As proposed, this particular project would utterly transform this entire landscape.

[Narrator/Reporter]

The original proposal, approved with no public comment by a little known state agency in May, would develop three chunks of land totaling 1540,000 acres at the northern tip of the Great Salt Lake. That's the size of more than two Manhattans. After public outrage, project developers cut the plan in half. But Davy says the scope up to 9 gigawatts is still impossible even to fathom.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's going to use 9 billion watts of power. That's the energy consumption rate of 40,000 Walmart supercenters. We could be talking about 10 or 12 degrees of Fahrenheit temperature change across this. Okay, I want to play, we're going to play that on our, over the weekend. So you see it all. It's pretty amazing, but it is. You know, I talked to the team up in Michigan. The number one thing up there is data centers. What Abbott's done in Texas approving all these is now getting blowback. He's kind of put a moratorium. So I'll be analysis in the governor's race in on the Republican primary. Mark Beale, number one issue, data centers. Where do we stand with this, particularly given a Republican perspective? If we cede this issue to the left, we're going to get blown out everywhere. Right. I'd even make an argument that even Andy Ogles, although that was about environmental. These billionaires coming in from San Francisco, you got to be at the forefront of data centers. The American people are just not going to have their electricity go up. They don't care about the lives of the oligarchs, the aquifers and the rivers drained and also these things sitting there humming in these agricultural communities. Mark Beale, your thoughts?

[Mark Beale]

This is a tough issue. You know, we, they didn't want any rules of the road on AI for so long and there's no, no, there's limited trust between the public and this industry. And now this industry is sort of ham fistedly walking around local communities trying to build these, these big data centers and not doing the normal local engagement. I mean, and one story, one version of this story, Steve, is, you know, these are billions of dollars flowing into local communities like places like ge, you know, rural health, you know, rural health care is a really big important issue for Georgia. You know, Governor could, you know, if he had the support, could probably get a decent amount of that money coming from the data centers into, into, into health care for those, for those citizens. And there's a win, win situation to be had here. But the negotiations and the methods of this industry have been so ham fisted that now there's this gigantic public backlash. And of course there is legitimate evidence that China and Russia propaganda are behind some of this sentiment. But just like we know with the Soviet Union, you know, these guys can't make up an issue out of whole cloth. These foreign, these foreign influence operations, they always seize on a real issue that Americans actually care about. And this is an issue that they actually are going to care about. And if we don't get the guardrails right and we do this, and we see this in the polling, like when you have guardrails on AI, support for data center goes up by like 19% in the polling. So there is a path out of the woods here because in some real respects under President Trump's leadership, we are re industrializing the United States and Preparing for the 21st century. And this is some of the infrastructure that we're going to need. But we can't be stupid about how we're going about it. And part of that equation has to be these, getting our arms around these, these AI guardrails so the public can have confidence that, that you know, the government's doing.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Look, the trust has been broken. Not the trust is not by the American people that got broken. The trust is the oligarchs. You can't trust them. They're trying to buy Washington Z. You know this. You fight it every day. So that's why I call for a moratorium until we can get the real facts. I don't trust anything these bologna say because they're all pathological liars. Mark, where they go for AI policy, network, the site, your social media, all of it. Where people go.

[Mark Beale]

I'm Mark Beall on x and the aipn.org is our website. You know, you can join the movement, you can participate in our engagement with elected officials to try to help them navigate these issues. At the end of the day, we are demanding strong guardrails on security level threats and we want to help the President be successful in this. And you can join the movement at that website.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Beale, you are doing the Lord's work. Hope you understand that burned into your soul. You're doing the Lord's work right here. Nothing would be more important. Mark Beale AI Policy Network. Thank you on a Saturday morning for joining us. Okay, Make America Healthy again. Tony Lyons is with a short break, October 15th, or as we say in the war room, the 15th of October. As we head towards that date, that's the extension deadline for the IRS. Here's something most Americans do not realize. The IRS already has a file on you every W2, every 1099. Every piece of tax information that's been reported to the government is sitting in what's called your IRS master file. The question is, do you know what's in it before you file your return? That's why I want you to check out our friends at Tax Network usa. They'll pull out your official IRS master file before your return is prepared so that you can see exactly what the IRS already has on the record. If you filed an October 15th extension, you can get your federal tax return repaired plus your IRS file pulled for just 49 bucks. And if you're self employed, receive 1099 income or own a business, they'll review your IRS file and prepare your federal tax return for just $300. This special offer can save you hundreds of dollars while helping you file with confidence. Before the extension deadline, call 866-513-5516. That's 866-513-5516 or visit tnusa.combannon that's tnusa.combannon for this special pricing. That's again tnusa.combannon Remember, they can pull the file for $49 and then file your return for 300 bucks. Do not miss this special offer. Take advantage of it today.

[Tony Lyons]

War Room.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Make America Healthy Again. Man, what a week we had for this with Fauci. All of it. I've asked Tony Lyons to join us. Can you give us a summary of this week from the MAHA perspective? Particularly we finally held in contempt of Anthony Fauci. Let me give people a heads up. You know, the Senate voted in contempt. Other people, you know, Navarro and I went to prison for it. Don't think this is a layup because you got New York, you got a D.C. grand jury, D.C. judges, that place over D.C. that federal court is the most corrupt thing I've ever seen my entire life. Sent two folks with misdemeanors to a federal prison. Thinking Danbury been around over 100 years. I don't think they'd ever had a misdemeanor. The prison's bill I think for 800 people has got 1200 in there. I Mean, these things are jammed. They're just absolutely crammed with bodies and felons, and they don't have room. I mean, misdemeanors. The guy that ran the D.C. court, one of the guys have been there 50 years, about to retire, said Mr. Bannon. My entire time running this court, the logistics of it, one of the operations guys says, I don't ever remember having a misdemeanor tried. We'll see what happens to Dr. Fauci, a Mass murderer. Tony Lyons, your thoughts?

[Tony Lyons]

Yeah. I mean, think about this. You guys go to jail for four months for doing absolutely nothing. And then Here's a guy, Dr. Fauci, who has done something, and he basically has admitted to it in his journals, you know, in his diary, in his personal emails, in his texts, you know, that he knew what was going on, and the steps that he took and the mistakes that he made resulted in millions of deaths. And then he came and he made just a mockery of the Congress of this country, where he goes in there and he refuses to answer anything. So, you know, how is it any different than him not showing up? He goes in there and he won't tell the American people the color of his tie. He won't admit to anything that he's done wrong. And so, you know, Rand Paul has been working day and night for months and months and months to hold him accountable. And I think that what was accomplished this week was really epic because everybody in the country saw who Dr. Fauci really is, you know, that he's this human being who is focused on his own fame, on his own glory. In his journals, when thousands of people are dying, he's talking about how many TV shows he went on, about how powerful he is, about the friends that he has. So it's just an outrage. And so Senator Rand Paul has been working to bring him to justice. And what he's accomplished is he got the truth out. And we won't fund this kind of research anymore because it's too public now. So we can't let anybody do this kind of thing in this country ever again. They can't force people to vaccinate, force people to make, you know, to wear masks, prevent people from going to work, from going to church, from seeing their loved ones in hospitals. You know, so Dr. Fauci lied day after day to the American public, and he was able to successfully kind of control what millions of people thought, what they ate, what they did, what they put into their bodies, what they believed, how they worshiped. So just incredible power given to this terrible villain. And now everybody has seen that. And some people don't recognize what they've seen. And Dana Bash gets on CNN with Bobby Kennedy, and she says, oh, the things that Bobby Kennedy did resulted in people dying. You know, that. That vaccines really are just always safe and effective. That a whole class of pharmaceutical products, the most criminal organizations in the history of the world, that they're just always safe. And we're supposed to believe that. But you know, look at what Dana Bash actually said. She said they're the most tested products of any products in the history of mankind. Now, if that's true, she's on cnn. She's an anchor on cnn. Why not just post all of those incredible studies on CNN.com but she didn't do that because they don't exist. So she's there, like Dr. Fauci, lying to the American public, vilifying Bobby Kennedy. And what is Bobby Kennedy doing? You know, I've said this before, but it's so clear. He's not looking to get more famous. He's not looking for more power. He didn't make more money. You know, the real Anthony Fauci sold 1.4 million copies. He didn't earn a penny on that. He donated everything. He assigned the contract to Children's Health Defense because he believed in the great work that they do. So, you know, so much of what people believe is just a lie. And we're seeing that now. We're seeing the bold, sweeping, decisive actions of an administration that has a lot of work to do and has a lot of people trying to hold them back in a deep state that's dedicated to protecting big oligarchs, big corporations that are making billions of dollars at our expense. But the progress, the cultural progress is just unprecedented because we've seen that everybody in America, their ideas are changing, the way they view food, pesticides, vaccines, drugs, they are changing. And the realization that people are having that. We live in a country where you can commit such horrible criminal acts and actually get away with it. And we know that has to stop. But we've changed the way millions of people eat. We've changed the way people think about vaccines, about the way people think about the drugs that they're giving to their children. And that's. That's just an epic victory that's happened in a year and a half. And there's a lot of time left. There's a lot more baseball to be played. And I think we can really win that. This can be just historic change.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I saw where the where now Bobby's going to be included. They had Axios, had a story about how this convention or whatever this thing is, is still kind of be determined whether it's a fundraiser or actually going to be a convention. Bobby's going to be a key part of that because now they know Maha. As we've been hammering. Hello. We wanted a coalition, one that we helped build and supported for years, make America healthy again. Food is medicine. Right now. What actions do we have to take and what actions that the administration have to take? Because I know President Trump supports us 100%. But what action do you believe has to be taken now to energize that amazing Maha base, to join with us and to start the canvassing and the door knocking? You know, after Labor Day, that drive to November 3rd, what is Tony Lyons, the head of Maha Inc. Believe has to happen?

[Tony Lyons]

I think it's. It's happening every day. But we need to really go hard and on removing all mandates. There can't be any medical mandates in this country. We need total medical freedom. We know that these companies have been out to get us, that they've been engineering food to make us addicted to it. They've been telling us that real food, that meat, fish, eggs, whole, you know, whole milk, that those things are dangerous and that, you know, ultra processed food, those are safe. So we've been lied to at such an epic level. We were told that these pharmaceutical products are the best thing for our children. And we need to come down really hard and be the party, be the politicians, be the activists who are supporting protecting children. And that we've seen that the Democratic Party has failed the American public and that they have done it because they took money from these companies and they have forgotten that they have an obligation to the American public. And that this obligation is to watch these companies carefully and to not allow them, not allow these oligarchs to control us and to poison us and to lie to us. And if that can get through. The polling shows just overwhelmingly, that almost everybody in this country believes that we deserve to have healthier food in schools, we deserve to have healthier food in hospitals. We deserve to have medical schools that teach people about nutrition. Because everybody knows that it's simple how you get healthier. It's really simple. You eat better, you work out more, you avoid pharmaceutical products. You don't trust the censorship and the propaganda and the lies that are trying to make you hungry and addicted and sick. And you take care of yourself. You get out into the sun, you question authority, and you Follow alternative therapies, and you look at all of the different options. And so you look at what's happened at all kinds of areas. I mean, look at the three books. Look at these three books that came out. There's Dr. Fauci's own book called On Call. This book sold less than 110 what Bobby Kennedy's book sold. And yet it was a number one bestseller, number one New York Times bestseller. Then you've got Jill Biden's book that sold about 3%, 3% of the copies that the real Anthony Fauci sold, and that was a number one bestseller. So in just every area, they played this cultural war to convince us of things that we now know aren't true. And if you want to rebuild trust, you have to go after those things, continue to go after Dr. Fauci, continue to right the wrongs that have been caused. And, you know, we probably need to come out really strongly before the midterms and think about how we compensate the people in this country who were injured or who were killed, you know, the families of the people who were killed by the COVID vaccines, because we need that reconciliation. And it's an outrage that companies like Japan compensate people who were injured by the COVID vaccine 87% of the time. And in Thailand, it's 82% of the time. And even in Canada, and I'm the least. I mean, Canada is at the bottom of my list of countries in almost every area, but they compensate 22% of the people. And in the United States of America, you can be injured by a few pharmaceutical product like a COVID vaccine that wasn't tested, that the government backed, that the media backed, that you were lied to about. And only 1% of people get compensated. And there's just, there's a limit on that of something like $3,500 even if somebody died. So think about that. We need to.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

You will not regret it. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Times of turbulence. You need a still point in the turning world. You saw Philip Patrick kicked off the show today. So much going on. The Middle east war. What's happening in straight or Hormuz? Persian Gulf, Japan bailout, Argentina bailout. What does it all mean? How does it make it all fit together? The, the Russian sanctions bill, of course, they got time to do that. No time for Save America, but to put sanction on the Russian. Oh yeah, we got time to do that. Birchgold.com Bannon ended the dollar empire. We don't want the dollar empire to end unless the American people decide on it. That's not what's happening. Find out why. Eight free installments, a ninth one coming. Birchgold.combannon Most importantly, you get to Philip Patrick and his team. They can talk you all through it. Tony, I'm gonna do the Make America Healthy again. I want you to give that cause. You're the leader of that entity and a great supporter of Secretary Kennedy and everything we do on Make America Healthy Again. But we got a very special guest who's going to join us. Carved out some time this morning, Eric Metaxas. This audience has loved and supported this book since he's had no hits on Fox and I'm not sure he had a hit on Newsmax, but it's really been warm and other shows like that and really going around Eric doing the tough work, just going around, you know, to these events, to book signings, to all of it and shaking hands and selling books. Why Is Barnes and Noble in a time when the retail book business needs best sellers, why do you go and give me photographs on the Union Square flagship in Manhattan, you know, down there near Greenwich Village, soho, all of it. They're so well read. They're so smart. The New Yorkers always want to be on the new hot thing. We've got a book that eight of the last nine weeks has been on the New York Times bestsellers, including number two. Week after week after week, you go in Barnes and Noble, you got all these ephemeral books nobody buys, including Joe Biden and, and all this crap, and yet you can't find in stock A Revolution by Eric Metaxas. Why is that? Why are they giving up cash flow? They, they need, like, mother's milk right now. Why are they giving up cash flow of a book that's written like a novel that people will take to the beach and get so immersed in it they won't understand when the tie comes up on their blanket? Why is that, Tony Lyons?

[Tony Lyons]

Because we are in the midst of a culture war, and what's happening is that, you know, Bobby Kennedy writes the real Anthony Fauci about, you know, telling the truth about what's going on with public health. And he's called dangerous. And then Eric Metaxas writes just a brilliant book, a historic, epic book. 640 pages on the revolution, you know, on the glory of the brave people who fought the revolution. And that, I guess, makes him dangerous, you know, to tell the truth about this country, to glorify what's great about this country. That's dangerous, too. And, you know, people want to read Eric's book. People want to read books about the giants who fought the revolution, you know, fought for our freedom. And these people, these newspapers, these magazines, these privately owned bookstores all around the country and Barnes and Noble, they want to censor everything that. That celebrates this country.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So hang on.

[Tony Lyons]

They want to have books.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me bring him a text hangover

[Tony Lyons]

where there's nothing in it. So it's ridiculous.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's all lies. All lies. Hang on one second. Let me bring Metaxas in. Metaxas, is that true? Why are people pulled to. To read this book? Why are they, why are they recommending it to friends? Why are they buying it for young people in their life? What is it about revolution that makes it. It's about an event 250 years ago. People are so busy with what's going on their own lives. Why are they reading a book about a story that's 250 years old, sir.

[Eric Metaxas]

Well, I guess if you go to the Amazon page and everybody's buying it off Amazon, since it's nowhere to be found in Barnes and Noble, if you go to the Amazon page. Honestly, as an author, as a writer, I am thrilled to death at the reviews on Amazon because, you know, I don't solicit these. I mean, these are just anybody who reads the book, they say that they love the writing, that it's fun to read, you know, honestly, that as a writer, you know, you can write an accurate book, a true book. But, you know, I have my own podcast. People send me books, and even if I wanna read it, a lot of books aren't that readable because, you know, it's hard. And so the stories in Revolution, I'm happy to say, practically tell themselves. There are amazing stories, funny stories. I mean, you've read it. These are. These are funny stories. And here's a tip. The good guys win. Who doesn't want the good guys to win? This is a true story where the good guys win, the bad guys get their humiliating comeuppance. Just as we hope Anthony Fauci will get his humiliating comeuppance. And he's one of many. It's good versus evil. And when good wins, we cheer, we rejoice. We need these stories, Steve, because we need to be inspired. We all know we've been through some dark times. The fact that you were at a federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut, are we making that up? No, that actually happened. There's all kinds of stuff that has happened to patriots across this country over the last six plus years. We've been through hell. We're in a war. We're in a cultural war. But at heart, it's a spiritual war. There are people who hate God. They hate truth, they hate right, they love wrong. And I think that in order to fight the war that we're in, we need inspiration. We need to see those who fought that war and that they won. And that went well.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This.

[Taj Gill]

This is.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is what. You know, I'm glad you gave the spoiler alert. The spoiler alert is we won. But here's what's so amazing. And this is why I want. Just give me a comment on this when you read the book. It's like a cliffhanger. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of times that it looks so dark. It didn't look like we were going to win. In fact, the exact opposite looks like the bad guys are going to win. Tell me about that.

[Eric Metaxas]

Yeah, well, I mean, I Think that that's the nature of reality, right? That in the moment, you know, if you said to George Washington, you're gonna win, he would say, well, that's nice. But let me tell you, it's looking like hell today and we've gotta fight and suffer and men are being killed. And, you know, and I think it's important for us. And I'd like to think that a good writer shows you that doesn't just make it seem like all peaches and cream. They went through hell. And people through history have had to go through hell. But when you're fighting for the right cause, a sacred cause, that this is God's idea, you can fight with honor and dignity and joy, even though you're fighting because you say, I have the privilege of fighting for something that's beautiful. That's God's idea. And I think that the left, the secularist left, trying to gaslight us that we can have everything wonderful without God. You can have liberty and equality. No, you can't. You can't even have life without God. God creates life. My previous book was, you had me on about four years ago to talk about. My book is Atheism Dead? That talks about science proving the existence of God. And this idea, we've all been taught in schools, that life just emerges on planets. No, it doesn't. You cannot even have life without God. And I think we're getting to a moment in America where we're beginning to see that, that we've been gaslit. We've been fed this secularist leftist view of the world and especially of the American Revolution, as though we could have liberty and self government. It just, you know, came from the French Enlightenment. No, it actually did not. It comes from the Bible. And again, I didn't write my book about that. But it's everywhere, in all the stories and all the figures. My favorite is John Adams. They understood this, and we have to understand this. This is not extra credit. This is not for history buffs. Every single American needs to understand this stuff because we're in simply a later battle of the same war now. It's good versus evil. It's secular elites who are cynical and corrupt. They're in love with power. They don't care how they get the power. And so, you know, we want to see justice. And so I think we need to be inspired by these stories of the past. And I mean, I reread my own book sometimes and I laugh. Some of these stories are hilarious, which is why I put them in the book, you know, I didn't make them funny. They were funny. But I said, I gotta tell this story. I gotta tell that story. Because there's something delightful about seeing the villains get their comeuppance and to see how that goes and to see their. Their pomposity and their. Their overconfidence and how every time, you know, they just, like they do with Trump, they. They underestimate their enemy, they sneer at their enemy. They think we're so much better. What a joke. And then we see how it. How it comes out. And that's not just talking about the president's golf game. That's talking about everything else.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, you're in Myrtle beach today. I want to know where people can go to get and meet Eric Metaxas and get a signed copy or shake your hand. Thank you for the book. And find out maybe more about how you wrote it. Also where people go get the book today because come Sunday night, they're going to be recalibrating the New York Times bestseller list. We want to make it again. So where do people go to find you in the future when you leave Myrtle Beach? And where do people go to buy the book?

[Eric Metaxas]

Yeah, well, I've got tons of events coming up Sunday. I'm in Myrtle Beach. I'm doing like three events in Myrtle Beach. Next weekend, I'll be in San Jose, California. I'll be in Santa Barbara. And on and on it goes. If somebody wants to invite me, go to ericmantaxas.com and please invite me. But I really think that if you just go to my website, it's all there. We keep adding events, and I'm going to be this fall. I'll be everywhere. I mean, it's like the Johnny Cash song. I've been everywhere. I don't know where I'm not going to be. I'm going to be everywhere this fall. But if people want to invite me to do more events and there are some bookstores that are carrying the book, I have to tell you that that thrills me. My relatives sent me a picture. RJ Julia bookstore in Madison, Connecticut, has the book prominently displayed, displayed in Madison, Connecticut. So there are some bookstores that are actually displaying the bestsellers in the front of the store. And so, you know, that that gives me joy to think about that. So I should pop in there and do an impromptu book signing if I get up to Madison, Connecticut. But it is. We're in a battle. People don't want us to know that you need the God of the Bible to have liberty and self government and to have America. And we need to know this. We need to know it, we need to rejoice in it. And, you know, we need to bring the facts. And so I hope people will read my book and get encouraged because we need encouragement right now.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's a butchery. Good luck today. Today and tomorrow in Myrtle Beach. We'll have you back on at the beginning of the week next week. And let's run through the tape to make the New York Times best sellers by Sunday. Eric Metaxas, thank you so much. Thank you for joining us.

[Tony Lyons]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tony Lyons, you're the one that's got the courage to publish the War Room books. We got a bunch of books coming out. You've got the courage to print Revolution and you got the courage to do the real Anthony Fauci, which I think we sold a couple hundred thousand copies minimum here in the War Room and really fell in love with the movement that Bobby Kennedy's one of the leaders of. Where do people go for Skyhorse for all the books, the worm imprints there. You now dominate conservative book publishing. Kind of a long journey there. Where do people go? Where do people go in Maha? Where they go for all of it.

[Tony Lyons]

Can I just say one last thing about Eric's book?

[Taj Gill]

Sure.

[Tony Lyons]

There was a concerted effort to force people to buy Jill Biden's book. And it was in every newspaper in the country. Front page articles day after day. It was stacked up in every bookstore. Jill Biden's book was everywhere. But you could not force people to buy it. They just wouldn't do it. And then they were trying to prevent you from buying Eric Metaxas is just incredible book. I mean, this is a historic book that I think people are going to read in colleges, they're going to read everywhere for a generation. And yet Jill Biden's book, with this kind of promotion, with the government behind it, with big companies behind it, with, like you said, the oligarchs behind it, it sells less than one third of the copies of Eric Metaxas Revolution. And what that tells you is that people are tired of being lied to. They're tired of being controlled. And they want to read real stories, real incredible stories of courage, endurance, bravery and faith. And that is Eric Metaxas Revolution, just an incredible book. You can find skyhorse [e-mail] and then everything about Maha [e-mail]

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tony Lyons, you become a real leader. It's so amazing to, to watch you do this. Just incredible. Thank you so much skyhorse. You're the publisher of the imprint of War Room. You got all these great books. Revolution. Huge supporter of Bobby Kennedy and the make America Healthy G. The tip of the screw of that food is medicine. Tony Lyons, good on you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Taj Gill. What a way to finish a Saturday. One of my favorites, the Warpath coffee. Remember he was a gunman in the old days. Taj would be getting ready to deploy now, driving one of the greatest companies in America. Next, who you trust with your healthcare matters. Too many companies have forgotten what customer service is supposed to look like. That's why I appreciate businesses that still put people first. All Family Pharmacy is a family owned and operated and it shows. When you call, you can speak with a real member of their team, including a licensed pharmacist, and get answers from people who actually care. They offer more than 400 medications and getting started is very simple. Complete a secure online medical questionnaire. A licensed physician reviews your information and if appropriate, write your prescription. Then your medication is shipped directly to your door. If you're tired of big corporations and a healthcare system that treats you like a number, it's worth taking a look at All Family Pharmacy. Their focus on making the process straightforward and believe real customer service still matters. Visit AllFamilyPharmacy.com that's one word. AllFamilyPharmacy.com Bannon and use promo code Bannon10 to save 10% on your order. That's all Family Pharmacy.com Bannon with code Bannon10. This is Family owned, family operated. These people, Michael Kunstner, his team are absolutely terrific. Take advantage of this today.

[Eric Metaxas]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Taste Gill. When the Navy SEAL you get that call and they say come to work. That's when you get ready to deploy. You did it, I don't know, 16 times, 18 times. You're in for 19 years. You would normally now be loading up the equipment, the material and heading out to a hotspot, probably around Straight or Hormuz, maybe Carg island, maybe now you're running one of the great emerging growth companies in this country. What have you learned about yourself in that process?

[Taj Gill]

I learned I could do other things besides shoot people and blow things up, right. So I learned how to be an entrepreneur. I learned how to. How to sell things. I had to. I basically had to reinvent myself after I got out. You know, when I first got out, I was a contractor working for the government. I did that for nine years after the military and then, you know that your options are limited. Security, stuff like that, carrying guns, training. So I got it. I. I became an entrepreneur. I. I started selling T shirts, the Hillary Clinton killed my friend shirts. And that was just a side hustle, fun thing. And then I. I transitioned to the coffee in 2020. And then I. I basically gave up all the other stuff and just focused. You know, over the years, people told me, you got to just pick one thing and. And dedicate yourself to it. So that's what I did with the coffee. I'm just doing nothing but coffee now. And I'm loving it. And I gotta tell this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I gotta. I gotta tell. I got. I gotta tell the story. So Tage, after he became, you know, he was Navy seal, then contractor with certain alphabetic agencies as a gunman. Then he was. Ran security, his own security company ran security for me for a number of years. And I get pitched by a lot of people. A lot of people come with idea. I got an idea, and Taj came up with this idea to build basically, since the Navy SEALs had the best equipment in the world, the best guns, the best underwater, you know, suits and everything that you guys use, everything is top of the line because they are. They pride themselves in being the best of the best. There's a lot of competition out there from other services and other nations, but the seals bring just such a battlefield valor. You said, I want to bring that to coffee. How did you do that? And tell me about this weekend. I want everybody that hasn't gone just to go to the site and read the reviews and check out what T has built with his own two hands. Sir.

[Taj Gill]

Yeah, I brought it to the coffee when I was in the military. I didn't even know what good coffee was. You know, we're drinking the crappy Navy coffee and chugging it down with milk and sugar. And when I was in Kuwait, I had an amazing cup of coffee, and it was unlike any other coffee I drank. It was so smooth, and I just drank it straight black. So I know I knew I wanted something similar to that. And we started trying, you know, working with different roasters and trying different beans from different origins. And I found a winner. And the coffee, you know, we. Now we roast, roasted on a perforated drum. We don't burn the beans. And it sounds easy, but most roasters burn their beans. So we. We use super fresh premium beans. And by doing that and roasting it the right way, you can drink our coffee straight black, which is not the norm in the coffee industry, which is Crazy. You know, you figured everybody would do it, do that. But most, most of these roasters, they're using dirt cheap beans and then they burn them. And that's why you have to drink your coffee with milk and sugar and whatever, all, all the other stuff. So that's, that's what we did. We found that the best way to roast, we use the best beans. And then by doing that, we have the best coffee and you could drink it straight black. And it's absolutely incredible. We have over 19,000 five star reviews, close to 20,000 with Amazon, and people love it. We, we have a cult following. And the, the coffee, it's just, it's amazing coffee. And you, you can drink it black and be healthy. You don't need all the crap in your coffee. You know, when you go to Starbucks, it's. You're basically drinking like a, you know, a chocolate shake. You might as well be with ice cream in it. It's got so much sugar, so much hang on syrup and all that crap in it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to, I want to do, I want to tell the story. You know, I'm all like, when Tay started, I'm like Henry Ford. You can do, you know, you should do anything you do, as long as you just make dark roast coffee or espresso. Taste the scale. And I keep saying every time, taste the idea. I go taste. Nobody's going to decaf, nobody's going to buy the. The. And they, they explode. Tell me about, I want the scale and the breadth of the product offering, sir.

[Taj Gill]

Yeah, we've got, you know, the, the flagship product is, is the Mariners blend dark roast. Everybody wants dark roast. That's the, that's, you know, that's just the thing. Dark roast coffee is the most popular. And then we have breakfast blend and we have the dark rose and Breakfast blend in 2 pound 12 ounce 42 count K cups. So you can run it in your K cup machine. Then we have the espresso and that, that we, that one, it's so good. You can drink it black. Like black espresso, which is unheard of. And then we have decaf in K cups and in ground and whole bean. And then we have the flavored coffees. You know, the flavored coffee. We have dark chocolate, vanilla, hazelnut. And then we have our Christmas coffee, which is the holiday blend. And we run that year round now because people were asking us year round, like, hey, when's the holiday blend gonna be back? So I was like, well, we'll just run it year round. And then we have maple bourbon and salted caramel. The salted caramel is crazy. That one's dangerous. It's, it's, it's, it's addicting. It's, it's amazing. And yeah, we have, we have everything. And we have mugs. We have hats. We have hats for hunting season. Orange hats. So ready to drink coffee in the can is coming next. We just finished our recipe recipe and now we're working with a co packer trying to get that to market. So hopefully by the end of the year I think we'll have the ready to drink coffee done. So look out for that,

[Stephen K. Bannon]

sir. One more time. Where do people go?

[Taj Gill]

You go to Warpath Coffee. Use promo code War room. Warpath coffee. Use promo code war room. It's 15 off all weekend.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Taj Gill]

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[Taj Gill]

Wow.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This thing was on fire. I'm up on getter all weekend. We'll see you back here 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time Monday morning.

[Tony Lyons]

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