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WarRoom Battleground 657: What Europe Is Preparing For In a Second Trump Term; War Escalates In Ukraine
WarRoom Battleground 657: What Europe Is Preparing For In a Second Trump Term; War Escalates In Ukraine ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is what you're fighting for. I mean, every day you're out there, what they're doing is blowing people off. If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors.
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Nigel Farage
The authoritarians, get total control and total power. Because this is just like in Arizona.
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is just like in Georgia.
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Nigel Farage
It's another element that backs them into.
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Stephen K. Bannon
A quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. As we've told you, this is the fight.
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Nigel Farage
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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Raheem Qassam
War room battleground.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen k. Bannon. Wednesday, the 20th of November, year of the Lord 2024. It is 60 days or 59 now to wake up until game day, the 20th of January at high noon, when we take control. President Trump and his administration takes control in the MAGA movement of the apparatus of the government of the United States of America. Honored to have on here one of President Trump's longest and greatest allies, Nigel Farage, who, with our own Raheem Qassam as his sidekick, had the most important, I think, political movement in at least the modern history of British politics, when you were able to get the sovereignty of your nation back. Very few individuals in the world can say that, Nigel, you'll always be a hero because of that. But instead of retiring, you continue to press on. We had today announced that Matt Whitaker. I know you know Whitaker very well. Matt Whitaker is named as the ambassador to NATO in Brussels. Heads are blowing up already, sir. Your thoughts?
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Raheem Qassam
I can't think of anyone better, Steve. I mean, Matt Whitaker is straightforward, upfront, honest, doesn't pull his punches. And let's face it, most European countries in NATO have been freeloading on the American taxpayer for decades. And in the past, we had presidents like Obama, presidents like Clinton and even Bush saying, look, you Europeans, if you want us to defend you, you've got to start playing the game, paying your fair share, none of them. And I think Donald Trump, Trump 2.0, is serious about this. If you expect America to be there to defend your liberty, you have got to play the game. And I think the Whitaker will travel around Europe and make that very, very clear to the leaders of those countries. And Germany, of course, at the top of the list, they're paying less than anyone for defense and they need to buck their ideas up. So now I think it's a good, bold appointment.
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Ben Harnwell
Nigel.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're over here working nonstop to make sure the judges don't get jammed through at the last second. The resistance movement's already big with the NGOs, the billionaires delaying every trap for President Trump, including allowing more people to come across the border, which I'll get to in a second with you because you're an expert. But the Ukraine situation, the last couple of days, Nigel, you've had American long range and medium range missiles fired by authorization of Biden. Zelensky fired him. And then today British, we know that they're American technicians in Ukraine, the fire control technicians and others, radar operators, target acquisition people, I assume there's British also, is Biden, do you believe Biden and even the labor government in the United Kingdom and the rest of NATO are trying to escalate this. So the President Trump, the ability for him to step in and negotiate a peace deal, it's overcome by current events on the battlefield.
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, I was astonished at lunchtime today in the House of Commons that we saw the Labor, Conservative and Liberal Democrat leaders all saying we're doing the right thing in Ukraine. As you said in your introduction, we are 59 days away from a new head of the Western world who has made it perfectly clear that his intention is to find a negotiable peace deal. I've also, Steve, today seen polling now suggesting a very clear majority of Ukrainians now want a settled peace, even if that means having to make some concessions. So right at this moment, for Keir Starmer and for Joe Biden to start a new offensive on a whole different level, I think it's an incredibly dangerous and stupid thing to do. And it shows you that the influence of the neocons is still very great on both sides of the pond. Everything they're doing will make it harder for President Trump in 59 days time. Not, of course, that he'll be deterred, but it makes it harder.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Nigel, it's 1000 days since war started. I know you tried to be a peacemaker and make sure it was avoided. The poll you talk about, what's shocking is not just the majority, 52%, but only 38% support the war. The support for the war is collapsing. They have intelligence sources are telling us maybe a million casualties of just Ukrainians. Why does the west continue to double down and press the bet?
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, it's extraordinary. I mean, we have Boris Johnson 48 hours ago saying we've got to keep going. Ukraine will win. Well, I'm really sorry, but Ukraine won't win because if this goes on for another couple of years, Ukraine will literally run out of men and making these arguments none of it supports what Putin did initially. None of it supports some of the nuclear weapons comments he's made in the last 48 hours, which I thought were really quite sinister and really quite chilling. But what is it about some of our Western leaders? What is it about the military industrial complex that seems to just joyfully want to continually taunt somebody who we know is dangerous? It is complete madness. It's a consensus that has taken hold in our capital cities, and only Trump can reverse it. And I believe that he will.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Is Boris Johnson. Is this some twisted psychodrama that he believes by doing this that he will remind people of the courage of and heroism of Winston Churchill? Is that what we're seeing here, kind of some psychodrama that's going up? Because there's no. Nigel, you're a military historian. I am, too. You know the details of this. You understand modern conflict. They're not going to win on the battlefield. Right. And Putin, as you said, just came out and said, hey, look, if I got to lower tactical nukes, threshold for tactical nukes, I'll lower them for tactical nukes. We know what the Red army and how they fight and how they never give up is. Boris Johnson got us into this because some twisted psychodrama inside his own head that he thinks he's a modern incarnation of the great Sir Winston Churchill.
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, I think you've analyzed that brilliantly. I literally think, as Prime Minister, he thought, this is it. This is my moment to be a world leader. And he did very much take the lead in getting Western nations to fund Ukraine, to arm Ukraine. He was very much in the vanguard of all of that, if you believe much of what we've been told. In 2022, he deliberately and willfully scuppered serious attempts at peace negotiations. So, yes, he thought this was his big moment to stand up on the world stage as a Churchill. The problem is, I'm afraid, he just got this completely and hopelessly wrong in every way. Now he can't admit that he's wrong. Now he is a supporter of endless war. And, you know, wars only end in one of two ways. The either end in a negotiated settlement where both sides have to give something, or they end in annihilation. And that's the absolute brutal truth of where we are. And it seems, sadly, that Boris Johnson would rather the risk of Ukraine being annihilated than him admitting he'd got this wrong.
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Stephen K. Bannon
One thing you got right, it's the reason the British have their sovereignty back very early on, was about immigration and mass immigration and uncontrolled immigration after you were able to get Brexit and get the sovereignty back, the Tories completely botched this. It comes down. There are a lot of other things, but the heart of it is just loss of your sovereignty, forgetting to take care of your citizens, just as mass immigration. Do you have some guidance? I know President Trump respect your judgment on so many topics. Do you have some guidance for President Trump and the team that's working down in Mar a Lago and now in Washington D.C. the imperial capital, to put the plan together for the first hundred days on the issues of defending our border, stopping this mass invasion we had, and reversing it with mass deportation? Sir?
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Raheem Qassam
Well, the lesson to be learned, I think, from modern history comes from Australia. Tony Abbott was the Australian Prime Minister. They had a problem with their borders. There were boats with two or 300 at a time coming all the way over from Indonesia. Previous Australian prime ministers had tried to deal with this. They'd done a bit of offshoring, tried many things, but failed completely. And Tony Abbott said, if anybody comes to Australia via this route, they will never be given refugee status, they will never be allowed to stay. And he literally put the boats under tower through the Australian Navy, towed them back to Indonesia. And do you know what happened? Within a few days, no more boats came. You have to show resolve. You have to show that if you want to make a long, expensive journey using criminal gangs to traffic you, that it won't be worth it because you won't be allowed to stay. And that is what Trump has to do in the first hundred days, make it clear that we're going to police this border completely. And anyone that comes will never, ever, regardless of their circumstances, be allowed to stay. And if he can do that, I promise you, they'll stop coming.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Nigel, you accomplished so much as an outsider. I mean, you literally saved your nation. And there's not many people in the world, you know, Donald Trump and Nigel Farage are two, and I would throw Orban in. There are three individuals that can say that. Now you're in Commons. Tell our audience what's it like being on the inside? What is it like being there? Is it different than you thought? More corrupt? Are you glad you made that move?
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Raheem Qassam
Well, I tell you, Steve, I did do 20 years, of course, in the European Parliament, which was obviously a very big stage. The House of Commons is. Well, the first thing I'd say to Americans is, you wouldn't believe how small it is. It really is a very, very compact little place, only 400 seats for 650. 50 members. So if you want to guarantee your seat, you have to get in there early and put a place card down. It's a bit like getting a sort of poolside spot when there are German tourists around. You have to get there early and make your mark. What has surprised me above all, and I really mean this, is how low grade most of the elected politicians are. I can think of a time when people that served in Parliament on the left had been coal miners that had risen up through the trade unions, were men that could command respect, women that had founded charities, worked in the voluntary sector, perhaps received an accolade from the Queen or something like that. Conservatives who'd been entrepreneurs, run businesses or perhaps been a major that had done well on D Day during the war. They were people of accomplishment before they got into politics. I find myself surrounded by a bunch of college kids who've never had a proper job, who can't even speak to working class people and who are totally detached from the rest of the country. So, yeah, it's. In some ways, I have to say, it's worse than I thought. The Commons is supposed to represent the views and the debates that are going on in my country. Increasingly, it doesn't do that, which is why we now need a second political revolution. Brexit was the first. We now need a House of Commons that reflects who we actually are. And that's my next endeavor.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Last question, Starmer. Because of the overwhelming rejection of the Tory Party, which is the people should understand. The Tories, I think, were actually worse than the Rhinos, if that's in the Republican establishment, given his overwhelming. And the media piling in the back of him, at least as an outside observer. And Ben Harnow is going to join me in a moment. It's been pretty, not just unimpressive, a little bit kind of catastrophic. Do these guys as labor, were they out of power so long they just don't understand what they're doing? Or they don't understand not just the levers of power, but really what they need to do to help rejuvenate the United Kingdom.
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, they're more socialistic and more doctrinaire than we'd even believed. And this extends not just to economics but to foreign policy. We have had sovereignty over a chain of Indian islands called the chagos Islands since 1814. All right? Uncontested. Suddenly, David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary, has decided to give away the sovereignty of those islands to Mauritius, who were 1300 miles away and who've never had legal claim over the islands. Why does this matter for your audience? Because Diego Garcia is part of that chain. It is a vital US Military, naval and air base. And the idea we're going to rely on a 99 year lease with Mauritius, given that a 50 year deal that we did with Hong Kong has been broken completely, is against not just our interests, but American national interests. And I was astonished today to see David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary, who as you know, has been very rude about Trump in the past, basically saying, I'm very confident that Donald Trump will stand behind my deal because he knows a good deal when he sees one. Well, I tell you what, I know that with Waltz and with others that are coming into the administration, they are very worried about Diego Garcia and we absolutely need someone to do something from America very, very quickly because I think what the Labour government are planning to do is to sign a treaty with Mauritius to give away this sovereignty to open up the other islands for the Chinese navy to get involved. And they're planning to do it before the inauguration. So we need some American voices telling the British government, please do not do this.
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is a very high priority for both this show. As a Pacific Fleet sailor in the 7th Fleet that got deployed to the North Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf, I can tell you you cannot support the American Pacific Fleet in operations in the Middle east. Either the North Arabian Sea or the Persian Gulf Red Sea, anywhere around there. Unless Diego Garcia in British hands, it's just impossible. It is the refueling, rearmament. It's the Runway. I mean, Diego Garcia is a very small island slash atoll with a massive air base Runway and a pier and a jetty that feels like it goes forever. It is vital. It is in the, unlike the eastern Russian speaking territory of Ukraine, right? This is in the vital. Diego Garcia is actually in the vital national security interest of the United States, full stop. And to know that the Chinese Communist Party could come anywhere near that, it shows you not just how radical lambing these guys are. What's most disturbing, I think from my perspective as I watch them, Nigel, is how unsophisticated and kind of rubes they are on the world stage. I mean, this one is just not even a close call. Why you would initiate this and get this rolling in your first year as labor is beyond me. Do you have any sense of that? I mean, it just, it makes no sense with everything else going on. A metastasizing war in Ukraine, you've picked a vital national security interest of your, of your longest running ally, the United States. That we can't keep. That we can't keep the peace in the Indo Pacific. Which is so central to the anti CCP strategy.
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, two reasons. The first is that they're playing student politics. David Lammy never really left university. He's part of that old leftist cult. Anything to do with colonialization must have been appalling. Therefore we can make amends these days. Which by the way, is wrong because the actual Chagossian population, they want to go back and settle the other islands beside Diego Garcia. But they only want to do it under British protectorate, not under Mauritians. So he's even broken that. That's the first reason. Colonial guilt. And the second? Well, our Prime Minister held a summit with President Xi. It's been the first big meeting between the British Prime Minister and a Chinese boss in six years. And what is clear is that Starmer is prepared to give China pretty much whatever they want, including a massive new embassy in London on the site of the historic old Royal Mint. It looks like we've got a government about to cave into China. China will be the big winner if the sovereignty of Diego Garcia is threatened in any way. This is vital. It's in our interest. It's in America's national interest. It's in the interest of the world if we want to stop China taking over that whole region. And the only way we can stop this is if members of the incoming administration speak up and speak up quickly.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Nigel, what is storming these guys? Not get that after they do that, the Chinese Communist Party in Hong Kong. What rolls up is it 55 of the Pro democracy protesters? I mean, they're in your. You have this thing and then they're in your face about arresting people that use. Some of whom used to be British subjects. What they don't get that the Chinese Communist Party humiliated them on the world stage?
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Raheem Qassam
Sir, I don't get it. As you say, just yesterday, 45 pro democracy activists have been sent to prison in Hong Kong. Some of them for up to 10 years. And by the way, Steve, these are for nonviolent acts. These are for just daring to challenge authority. And it shows you that if you do leases and deals, handshakes and agreements, you can dress them up in the name of treaties, but with unreliable governments, they don't hold. And Mauritius, frankly is pretty unstable. Has been moving further to the left, has taken a lot of money from China over the course of the last few years. This is a very, very bad decision. But I do believe, believe me, getting up in the House of Commons Casting doubt is one thing, but a big, strong voice from Trump or anybody else in the incoming administration, and I think we can stop this from going through, but we need, frankly, we need America to help us to help ourselves.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Niger Farage. Niger, how do people get your content? We're going to be the platform for that voice. We'll make sure that this thing is sorted out because it's outrageous. How do people track you now that you're in Commons, sir?
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Raheem Qassam
Yeah. Google me. Nvarraj.com and everybody, welcome.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, sir. Honored to have you on here, as always.
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Ben Harnwell
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You want to talk about resilience and toughness and smarts, that's Nigel Farage. For decades, this guy hammered and got into the British Parliament. That's our first, excuse me, the European Parliament. That's where I first seen these YouTube clips, said, who is this dude? When I finally had the opportunity to go over when I was running Breitbart and decided, hey, we needed to launch a European, and we're going to launch it out of the United Kingdom. To go over, I think it was in 2012, after Andrew had passed, maybe it was late 2012, to meet a young guy on the Internet, an influencer named Raheem Qassam, and to meet Nigel Farage. And then later I would traipse around with them out in the Midlands. This is when the Tea Party. Tea Party had been going for a couple of years. And to see him out talking to groups of 50 people, 25 people, 100 people, the passion he did it, the smarts, he did it every day, every day to fight for the sovereignty of his country. And then in 16, when they pulled it off, and the Breitbart London was a huge part of that, Raheem was just amazing. The first people he thanked on the morning after on the BBC was Breitbart and Breitbart London as having his back. Because the reason we started Breitbart London, the Daily Telegraph, I'm bringing Ben Harnwell. I met Ben about the same time in Rome. That, or just maybe slightly a little after that, the Daily Telegraph had kind of gone woke. The Tories were wet. They were not conservatives, they were not hammers. They didn't think about the sovereignty of their own nation. And in 16, in June of 16, late June of 16, when Brexit, against all odds, won, I said, this is it. This is the predicate for the Trump win. Now I'm certain, 100% metaphysical certitude, Trump is going to win. That was in June because of Nigel Farage and the heroism and Rahim Qassam and others. Matthew Richardson, as you remember, Ben, so many, so many others. But the odds against those guys were so long. The entire establishment, the entire media, it was the people and it was particularly Ben Harnwell, the same people that backed Churchill. When the royal family and others, the aristocracy, were trying to sell out, sell out England during the early days of World War II, where they were trying to cut, there was discussion a lot of the aristocracy wanted to cut, led by Lord Halifax and others wanted to cut a deal with Hitler to say, okay, maybe you have the continent, but you leave the empire. We keep Egypt, we keep elements of the Middle east, we keep India, the jewel in the crown. And it was Churchill. When Churchill in 1940, when the chamberlain government collapsed, it was the Midlands. It was a lot of labor people, working class, had the backs of Churchill. This is the beginning. You could see the MAGA coalition back then. And what Nigel Farage did is just incredible. And you see him doing it again. And the situation. DeGarcia, just one of many. Ben, your overall thoughts on what's happening in the UK now, but particularly in regards you see with President Trump, there's a resistance here in the United States. We talk about every second of the show, but internationally it's also building. They're trying to trump proof the world from the changes that President Trump thinks is necessary. Particularly what's the scariest is Biden and the Atlanticists and NATO and Party of Davos in Brussels. They are escalating this war in Ukraine to leave him at the beginning of his second term. Just an international fiasco that's going to spread out of control and lead to more people dead. Ben Harnwell, your thoughts? Got a couple of minutes here. We're going to keep you through the break.
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Ben Harnwell
Sir Steve, I'm actually from the East Midlands. I can testify that there's a lot of love for Nigel Farage there in that neck of the woods. It's traditionally one of the industrial bases, the Midlands working class industrial bases of the UK and what you're seeing now, and this is something, something I predicted on our end of year review, 31st of December 2023. You asked me to identify the story from that year that would have the greatest impact on 2024. And I did. And I said basically it's this announcement of Nigel Farage that they're going to place candidates in every Tory seat. I said this, you know, I put it there. It's their one getter. I said, this will spell the end of the British Conservative Party, the oldest political party in the world, and they'll never be able to form a government again. And it's taken them 11 and a half months for. The Guardian put out an article. I don't know if Denver can put this up. I did send it through, but the Guardian put out an article a couple of days ago basically saying exactly this, eleven and a half months after the war Room, that it's looking like the Labour Party's main rivals at the next general election isn't going to be the Tory party. It will be reform for exactly these sorts of reasons. Look, I know we've got a break. I want to just hit on what's going on, my take and what's happening on Diego Garcia.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Raheem Qassam
Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon okay, what.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Ben Harnwell
So many things I'm going to have to pick up now. Look, let's pick up on some of the themes from this excellent interview you did a short while ago with Nigel Farage. You asked him why, Boris, why, you know, why is he coming out now at this point of the game trying to commit the UK and the west to continuing the war in Ukraine when they're not going to win. The Ukrainians, if you Actually, look at the pivot points when they cross on the 50%. I think it was like a couple of months, like a month ago, six, six weeks ago, basically, when the polls were indicating that Trump was going to win. So why are the Ukrainians going to want to continue to commit their lives, their blood, their flesh and everything to war? That is fundamentally not winnable. Of course they're not going to want to do that. And you say, so why is Boris Johnson sort of sweeping in now? Well, look, I do use the adjective sociopaths to describe our overlords from time to time. I think Nigel, and you were absolutely right earlier on the show, that his original instinct was Boris has always singled himself out from the modern Tory party that hero worships Margaret Thatcher. He always made it clear his point of reference was Winston Churchill, and that was the lens through which he was seeing everything. So you can attribute those motives to him, I think, two, nearly three years ago now. But this is. This is sociopathy. There's sociopath, sociopathy, There's. It's just absolute disregard for the human cost in allowing him to stand there in front of the telecommune doing the victory spiel. You know, when someone can do that and have no interior dialogue, fighting back, you know, there's something not right in the emotional constitution of a person, the character of person. And I say sociopathic. The overlords are sociopaths. Sticking just one moment, if I may. I have another point to make about Nigel Farage. Here's how you know that they're ready now, that this is reforms moment. How he knows it, how they're readying themselves to take on permanently as one of the two principal parties of the UK edging the Tory party out. It's his declaration, you mentioned it earlier. It's his declaration that they will. That if he comes to power, they will deport 1.2 million people, which is a huge number for a smaller island nation like the uk. Doesn't sound very much for the us, but for us, that's a huge proportion. That's how you know when you're moving in. And you've got to remember the UK is pretty much communist and Marxist, that he's coming in and saying this, which is prohibited in the public discourse. You know, he knows that he's talking directly to the British people now. He's doing what Donald Trump did in 2016. This is how you know he knows he's ready for prime time. Diego Garcia. Right, here's my take on this. Why, you know, of all of these things the three points I want to mention today, they will, they all revolve, revolve around timing. Why Nigel Farage comes out with this 1.2 million. Deporting that because he's, he knows he's who is what his focus is, what his task and purpose is. To use your conversation, your language, Steve. Diego Garcia, timing. Why now? Why October? Why early October? Did they suddenly, after, you know, after centuries, suddenly said we'll give it to Mauritius, this island that had never been inhabited before that the Portuguese discovered it 500 years ago by nobody. Why now? Why is the Brits talking about handing so now, Steve, I have to say, talking against my own people. I think you've got a markdown to the wily Brits strategizing here. They know they're going to cut their own noses off if they do this and they know it'll be even more painful to cut the noses off the Americans. I think what they're lining up, the fco, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, is some negotiation material for Keir Starmer to sit down and talk with Donald Trump. And so these, you know, but it's a wily maneuver on behalf of the Brits, right, Because they'll be talked. They will let Donald Trump talk them into not doing something that they don't want to do anyway and leave Donald Trump feeling grateful to them. That's my take on this. Could be completely wrong. We'll see how it goes. I don't particularly, I'm not confident that it will change hands, but I think this, as I say, it's a case of having something, some chips to put down on the, on the table. Nuclear weapons. Right. Maneuvers in Ukraine.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So hang on, hang on, but hang on one second. Semaphore is reporting right now. This is how twisted it is. Semaphore is reporting that US Allies are concerned because of Russian escalation dealing with Putin's comments about the potential use of battlefield tactical nuclear weapons. This is after they were hit with the American long range into Russia and now the British. But you see how the Atlanticists are framing this. Look, Putin's no good guy, trust me. He's a KGB guy. The guys running Russia are not the best. The Russian people were our allies in World War II and took the brunt of the casualties from the Wehrmacht. They basically bled out the Wehrmacht in Stalingrad in places like Kursk where they're hitting with missiles right now in Russia, down near Ukraine. So you see how they're twisting it. This is what I don't get. Explain this to the audience Ben, what is this maniacal focus by Brussels, NATO, the party of Davos, the elites in Western Europe to escalate the battlefield right now and to really Biden's not sucking the Americans in, they're driving it. Why did the globalists, why did they want to continue to fight and escalate the fight, escalate the violence, escalate the annihilation when it's clear that the Ukrainian people, they're at 38%. If you did another poll in 72 hours it'd be at 33% and it's going to continue to drop because they're the ones that have a million casualties. They're the ones that's country is in tatters, particularly from Kiev kind of north into the east. And they realize that they're not just like in World War II where the Red army goes, they're not going to get back. The Russian speaking eastern territories, provinces are not going to go back under control of Zelensky in this crowd, whether it was ever really under control of theirs in the first place. And Crimea ain't going back with Sebastopol and in Yalta, it's some pretty historic places, folks. The Russians consider that Russian territory. Sorry, sorry, not sorry. Your thoughts, sir?
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Ben Harnwell
Well, in terms of the escalation argument, the US put out a statement yesterday saying it that its reasoning behind allowing Ukraine to use the American supplied attack missiles was that Russia itself had escalated in allowing North Korean troops in to come in and assist it. So basically, I mean, which is, which is the biggest load of nonsense you ever heard because if you think about it, the west, all of the European Union, the United States and other countries, they've all piled in to help Ukraine. And yet if Russia asks North Korea to send a few troops over, that's escalation. So you know, it's nonsense. His here's what, here's what I think, Steve. Look, if Joe Biden seriously thought that allowing the use of the American provided atacms into the Kursk region was going to produce a result that Americans would think was beneficial to America, he would have done it before the election. There's your answer. There's your answer. He knows whatever, whatever the outcome of this is going to be, it's not going to be perceived by Americans as benefits.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on, this is incredibly, this is incredibly perceptive. If the Democrats thought this, they would have done this in July or August, right? They would have done. They wouldn't have waited until after they were defeated to then do this massive escalation is that what you're saying, sir?
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Ben Harnwell
100%. Now, there are a couple of things to say about this. Kursk isn't deep inside Russian territory, although that was the image that was provided by some US Mainstream media on this announcement. It's a tiny pocket of land, it's like 650 square kilometers and it's on the Russian, Ukrainian border. It's part of Russia, but it's on that border. And it's the incursions, the only incursion Ukraine has made into Russian territory and it's currently being administered by Ukraine so that it's the exact opposite of what Russia has done in the Donbas. So in one sense what, what Biden has allowed is for Zelensky to use these U.S. provided attack and missiles to be used in the region of Russia that is already under Ukrainian control. It's not like they're using it to attack Moscow or what have you. The, the other thing I would say though about this maneuver, about the giving of the, of permission, if you will, at this stage and it's obviously not supposed to help, whatever the outcome of this is, it's not going to help Donald Trump. There is an outside possibility, Steve, and I'm just floating this out here, that the U.S. military Industrial Complex is providing an invitation to Donald Trump should he want to accept it. Not to wind the war down, but to keep it going as another forever war. I think they've miscalculated on Donald Trump I think, I presume, I hope he will wind this war down within the first 24 hours, come up with a peace agreement as he has said he will do. But there is, you know, don't forget that the, the mic is a trillion, a multi trillion dollar industry. It's a card that they can play, doesn't cost them anything. And if the war keeps going and the armaments keep going. Look, the other thing is that they will probably have, you can slap this down if you like and say Han while you're talking rubbish. But the other part of the calculation on why they think there's an outside possibility Trump won't close the war down is because Trump didn't exactly come down on our side back in March, April of last year when Mike Johnson depended on Democrat votes to pass the Ukraine funding bill. Right. That $70 billion. Trump was pretty much supporting Johnson on that. So they probably looked at that and they thought, well, you know, it doesn't cost us anything and we'll throw this, we'll throw this sandal into the cogs and if Trump wants to take our invitation so much better. We'll keep this war going a little bit longer and suck out more hundreds of billions of dollars from the American taxpayer. As I say, I think they've miscalculated, but I suggest that it's part of the calculation.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Talk to us about briefly about the reception of President Trump's victory, this massive sweep and controlling every branch of the American government from the capitals of Europe. Sir.
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Ben Harnwell
Well, the biggest change is obviously with regards to Ukraine, Steve, this is like really important now because the European chancellories in the capitals across the EU have been pushing this line on their own peoples, backed up obviously by their own national media, that helping Ukraine confront Russia is an issue of domestic national importance. Because they weren't going to do that then. Russia would just roll in all the way down into eastern, central and eventually Western Europe. Obvious nonsense, but that is the shtick that they have been using. And the problem that these, that your NATO allies are now facing is that with the advent of Donald Trump and the expectation that he will in fact proceed to withdraw US support, funding support from this war, is that what do they then do? Do they then go it alone or do they say, well, look, if Russia, if America's pulling out, we'll pull out too? Because the fact is that these countries, we are not in a good economic place here in the European Union, the largest economy in the eu, Germany is heading into recession. Olaf Scholz is heading into a general election which he could very well lose. And you saw, I mean, you didn't discuss it when you were talking with Nigel Farage, but he was very instrumental in the farmers protests that have rocked London the last couple of days. Sort of 100,000 farmers coming down. Why they're normally placid British farmers. Why they're. Because the Labour government is trying to impose 20% inheritance tax on farms worth more than a million pounds sterling. The country is broke and we can't continue to afford to fund Zelensky. That's the economic and political reality. So if America pulls out, the Europe is going to have to throw its cards on the table and fold. But how do they do that? How can they have thrown so much in, really sort of pushed up the cost of living? One of the reasons the German economy is being published so bad is because it lost its access to the Russian provided liquid natural gas. We put in so much to help America on this war. How do they just within 24 hours turn around and say, okay, well, perhaps we, you know, perhaps Russia isn't going to roll in and invade Europe. After all, perhaps we can create a deal they're going to have some serious answers to make it. And I close with this observation Steve. I cannot think of a single country that was involved in this war that has had an election since this war and has won. Biden out Macron lost his control in parliament. Germany Schultz is going to to lose. Presumably UK which is toy party lost its biggest defeat electoral defeat in over 100 years. Every single one of these nations that was all in on Ukraine has been rejected by its people. That's the this is our European have to come up now and explain to their people why they did this.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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