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WarRoom Battleground EP 1009: Another Week, Another Long List Of Examples Of How Much “Pope Leo” Hates His Flock
WarRoom Battleground EP 1009: Another Week, Another Long List Of Examples Of How Much “Pope Leo” Hates His Flock...
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Steve Bannon
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Frank Walker
medieval on these people.
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Ben Golia
MAGA Media I wish in my soul,
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Frank Walker
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Steve Bannon
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Frank Walker
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Ben Golia
Wednesday, 13th of May, Anno Domini 2026 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Good evening. Well, we have tonight together some stories that we haven't been able to mention over the last couple of weeks. But there's a narrative that ties them together and that's why we're gonna go through them now and explain exactly what that narrative is. And folks, it's basically the argument that we've been pushing here on the War Room for about the very day that Pope Leo stepped out onto the loggia at St. Peter's Basilica. And that is going against the mainstream narrative. The mainstream media narrative coupled along with TFAD Inc. Pull this Pope is not open to tradition and he's not your friend. In fact, my dear Warren Posse, the man that a lot of people acknowledge and recognize as Pope is the enemy of everything that you hold of value and that you hold sacred. Frank Walker, our regular analyst, is here with me this evening, the editor in chief of Canon 212, the Trad Catholic, Matt Drudge. Frank, welcome onto the show as ever. Thank you.
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Frank Walker
Thanks, Ben.
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Ben Golia
Well, let's do this in order then. So the Le Panto foundation has just produced a couple of days ago, 140 page report that details how inverted commas Pope Leo has used a number of meetings of Eng. Popular movements that have been sponsored by the Vatican at various locations. And I, I say inverted commas popular movements because on analysis, on investigation, these are basically just fronts for what appears to be little more than cultural Marxism dressed up speaking the language of the Church to get a foot through the door, but then to radically undermine the actual teachings of the Church. And Frank, I just before we start breaking down what the, the Lepanto Institute has, has reported in this very in depth document, I just want to ask Denver, if you'd kindly put up the. The graphic I sent through from How Frank, your very own website, canon212, pushed this because I think it was absolutely true. It's. It's basically Pope Leo telling the communists that he's there, that he's listening to them and that he's with them. I think that graphic there that you can see on the screen, that really does, I think, Frank complimented to you, that really does bring out the sheer horror of what faithful Catholics now have to deal with. And again, whereas Pope Francis inverted commas of unhappy memory was quite overt and blatant about his communist agitating, it was easy in a political sense to oppose him. It's far more difficult with Leo when we have key points of reference in the Catholic social media sphere, the trad. Catholic social media sphere, telling their. Their followers on social media that not to be too aggressive with Leo because really he's one of us. He's. Give him time. He's looking for opportunities to open up access back up, to open access back up to the traditional Latin Mass. Frank, tell me then about this report that was just produced a couple of days ago and about the. The popular movement that the Vatican has been hosting and what they stand for and why not is the Vatican. I ask a rhetorical question here, but why on earth is the Vatican giving a voice and credibility to these movements that to the extent that we know what they stand for, it is the dissolution of the Catholic faith?
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Frank Walker
Yes, it was quite a shock when this first happened with. Because it's happened five times now that they've had this meeting with Francis. You might remember way back when we first got Francis, he had a meeting and I think it was in Ecuador, and he got a. He got a gifted Cameron sickle crucifix, which put communism together with the cross of Christ. And they have a picture of him, you know, sort of liking it and they have a picture of making a stern face at it. But it was such a shock when it happened. That is the beginning of what we've had all this time, which is a creation of sort of a communist church. Francis went on to say that Communists stole the flag of Christianity because Christianity all over the port, mingling them together, admitting that communism was what his religion was. And this group, the Popular Movements group, you know, they're. They're not like other communists, other com. You know, we live in sort of a communist world in so many ways, and so many people push the agenda of communism, but they don't say it. But these groups this world meeting of popular moves. And it's just many, many of a collection of them all together. They say it. They say it outright. They read Karl Marx at family gatherings, they say who they are, and that's the difference. So it's such a shock that Leo actually addressed the latest one of these groups back in the fall when he was first made Pope. And I want you to know that there was a founder of modern communism, was an Italian. Italians can be very good at communism, Antonio Gramsci. And the way he went about it was not through violent revolution so much, but through degrading the people, morally degrading the people, turning them into sort of a depraved people in order to be able to conquer them that way, because they would not be resistant that way. And you. I don't. People mention over and over, he's dead now. Yuri Besmanov from the KGB back in the 80s talked about how we were being targeted in the United States for demoralization. And that's what is happening here. And that's why we have a linking with the Catholic Church in the Francis and Leo era openly with these groups. And so Leo gave a speech in Rome to this group of popular movements at a venue that was an old communist venue that is also. And if you look one by one through this enormous report by the wonderful Lepanto Institute, you can see that all of these communist popular movement groups are also very pro lgbt, very Pope, feminist, very much the program that I just mentioned by Gramsky and Bezmanov of how to install communism. And well, anyway, there are rude pictures in this venue, so I don't think Leo actually was there, but there were other. Like the Vicar of Rome was there and Cardinal Cerny was there. And there's a new phase that this represents. It's. It's going into just. Just like you saw with the. In the synod document, there's a synodal phase of unity, of integration happening now when, with this latest meeting of the world popular movements actually bringing in to the church.
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Ben Golia
Let's just look at this then in context, because you quite correctly mentioned Antonio Garamchi, who's like the high priest of cultural Marxism. It's often attributed to him the expression. I don't know if he ever said it, but he's definitely attributed to him because it sort of. It indicates his philosophy here. I think it was the slow march through the institutions. Right? This is. If you really want to get communism to take root, you have to capture the cultural institutions that people look towards and defer towards. And infiltrate them. And being a slow march is something that is gradual and it will take time, but once you do that, you will then be able to move forward with the, with the agenda of, of, of installing cultural communism. Then to get to economic communism. Though, Frank, you probably, I don't know if you'd agree with me, but I actually think cultural communism is even worse than, than economic communism, which in itself is pretty bad. Now, you also mentioned the strategy of demor. Say what that is in a bit, if you wouldn't mind, just break that down for perhaps for the war. Impulsive. That might be new to the term because I think if you. Having said a bit about Antonio Gramsci, having said a bit then about these world meetings of popular movements which are basically cultural Marxist fronts, and Leo basically gives them the full throated endorsement, beneath the radar, of course, but lets them know that he's there with them as a fellow traveler when he says sort of I am with you, which is very clear, indicating it's the sort of thing that Ben Golia would have said, assuming that people are too stupid to see what he's doing and even if they see what they're doing, they're too weak and cowardly to openly oppose him on it. But I think it's quite clear that Leo is following the Francis agenda. Tell us, however, because that's the missing link, I think, about the demoralization. What is that?
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Frank Walker
Well, from what I understand, it's the same kind of thing as Gramsci. Even in the 80s, he said it was pretty much complete in the United States. And I know that in that time period, you know, just in my lifetime, all the families began to dissolve into divorce. But I think, I think you can see why union with the church. And in fact it was in the 70s, the 60s and the 70s, that all these new immoral things became modern and believable and just okay. And in fact. And also dissolution of faith in Christian faith. So Bezmanov said that you would get to such a point where they could even put us in the Gulag and we still wouldn't believe that we were there, that we could be faced with the injustice of communism right in our face and not be able to do anything about it. And that's kind of where we are now. And it's good to see things like this, people actually naming themselves in communism, linking with what's supposed to be the Catholic Church to help us, you know, look at the way we think and say, have I been led into this? Is this, is this atheism? Is this anti Christian feeling that I grew up in? Is this laissez faire attitude about morals? Is this just my own idea? Are these ideas been sort of given to me? Has this been built in the culture around me? Don't just accept and, but, and, and try to explore things that, that are not, you know, handed to you through the media. I think that's what you, you have to resist that demoralization. You have to undo it. And I think the best way is to see this rebirth in the church that we're having today is rebirth in the church. The sacraments, mass and prayer is how you undo that kind of thing because that's just a miraculous effect on people.
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Ben Golia
Frank, you've got that absolutely correct. And of course, as the revival is taking place, we know who's going to be in first position to try and kick in the back of the knees the Generation Z that is on fire for the face like nothing we've ever seen in my lifetime. And that's the Catholic Bishops. Stay tuned. In two minutes, I'm just going to give a quick shout out to one of our show sponsors to see what the US Catholic Bishops are doing. My dear war room posse, in your face. In the face of the Catholic faithful, the, the, the Catholic bishops do not have the, to use again Francis's term, the smell. The pastors of the Catholic Church do not have the smell of the sheep. Not mostly. Well, Fortune magazine carried a headline a couple of days ago saying that as the U.S. debt nears $39 trillion, you American taxpayers are now paying $3 billion in interest payments to service that debt per day. $3 billion per day simply servicing the national debt. Now you have to ask yourselves what is Congress going to do long term? Is it going to present itself to the American people and say we've been living beyond our means and therefore we're going to trim back on spending on defense, we're going to trim back spending on Social Security, we're going to balance, we're not only going to balance the budget, but we're also going to going to start paying off the national debt. Do you think it's either going to do the at that, which is A, or do you think Congress will be kick the can down the road by printing more dollars? Well, if your inclination is B, that that will be the solution, then obviously the you will want a hedge for your savings that is not dollar denominated. And that's why gold is constantly nudging up in terms of its, in terms of its commodity value. Therefore you will ask yourselves not only about that but also the general situation of the, of the economy of the next six months to do with the Strait of Hormuz being blockaded. Of course, the true costs of that haven't yet been felt and you will want to take into consideration in terms of your portfolio, your savings, your pension funds possibly having a component in gold. That is where Birch Gold Group come in. That's where Philip Patrick and his team will come in. And if you're thinking about doing this but still haven't got round to buying actual reserves of the yellow metal, then now is the time to call Philip Patrick. Because between now and 29 May, Birch Gold Group is giving a first time gold buyers rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. So if you want more details about that and, or the free information kit that Philip Patrick has put together on diversifying into gold, text Bannon. That's B A N O N to the number 989-898. And Birch Gold Group can help you convert an existing IRA or a 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. Tex Bannon once again to 989-898 to see if you qualify for a first time gold buyer rebate of up to $10,000. Again Tex Bannon to 989-898. Frank Walker. The bishops then have put out this statement in the last couple of days objecting to the Trump administration's tightening of asylum, especially with regards to federal housing assistance. Tell us there, if you wouldn't mind, what exactly are the Catholic Church's bishops up to?
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Frank Walker
Well, they, they, they're going to make it so that if you, it used to be that if you had one or two illegal aliens living in your house, they kind of cut back your housing assistance. Now they're just going to cut it back completely and also they're going to cut back your educational assistance. The bishops have, you know, they've complained that they're, they'll lose federal housing cash and that there's, there's a one year waiting period for them to work for employment. So it's, this is against everything that Jesus taught. According to the bishops. They're crying about family separations because some will have to just leave and some will have to split up who's living in the house. Some people are going to get kicked out because of the way they change the policy and it's a heartbreaking choice. It'll drive up homelessness. They say some of them might not be able to find their paperwork and all of that, they're denying subsidies to people with mixed status is just morally wrong. Do you think that? I mean, you know, so if you think that's wrong, I would, I would have to differ with you on that. They say that the employment rule is flat out illegal because sometimes people can't work, but they're illegal aliens. The dignity of the human person and the right to have work. See, that's what they're going against. And the Bible, the gospel says to welcome the stranger. How many times have they said that it's not true. The gospel says to welcome the stranger. And what about the preferential option for the poor? The bishops say, and that's in Vatican ii, they say that all the time. Where is that? That's not the gospel. And it's against the common good. And you're supposed to be able to provide in a dignified way. That means that it's everybody's responsibility to make sure that illegal aliens, not only that they have jobs, but it's dignified. You know, I mean, got to be really dignified. And they have to be able to use their God given talents too.
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Ben Golia
What I like, what I like about these bishops, even though their knowledge of the gospel is scant, if not zero, they're now setting themselves up as, as judges, basically, as, as experts in jurisprudence. They're setting themselves up as the Supreme Court because as you say, they, the Catholic bishops have come out and said that this proposed employment rule violates the law, which is. Wow. I mean, I didn't know, I didn't know bishops had that charism enabled to look at the law and see, look at a proposed law, excuse me, and say before it's even been written that it is against the Constitution. That's a new one for me. Right. Is that true?
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Frank Walker
Yeah. I mean they're not, they don't know what's legal or what's moral and they're proclaiming on both. And they, and people, decent, regular people can understand that that's wrong. It's not fair. You don't have a right to housing, free housing. You don't have a right to jobs, no matter what. You know, these are like we were talking, these are aspects of the communist platform. The platform that we discussed earlier is in all of their, the bishops programs. Everything that they point to in that popular movements when it comes to actual policy that they push is no different. It's no different at all.
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Ben Golia
It's not. It's no different because exactly what we have seen since the Second Vatican Council, which I think finished in 1965, is the whole scale importation of communism, of masquerading as Catholic social teaching. Right. And that is the, that, that, that is the one thing that Catholics aren't allowed to speak out against. You're allowed to speak out against the, the, the church's position on pro life or on the Catholic Church's traditional teaching on human sexuality. Those things you have a free reign to, to speak out against if, if, if you don't like them. The Marxism that has entered the Church under social Catholic teaching, that's, that's, that's not questionable. You're not allowed to question that. Right. And the irony is, Frank Walker, tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. I thought it was my understanding that most of what pertains to such Catholic social teaching is really prudential judgment issues about which, on which the Catholic layman is free to form his or her own opinion on how best to get to the common good.
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Frank Walker
Right. Communism is not a position. Communism is not a position. You should choose what you can choose. But the popes up to Pius XII condemned, excommunicated you for supporting communism. That means that these bishops and Pope Leo are excommunicated by church teaching by previous popes. I mean, that's the kind of thing that we're up against now. And there's a. At this Catholic World Report, and you know, this is the feast of Our lady of Fatima, who said that Russia will spread its communist errors throughout the world. If I'm not. If you don't consecrate Russia to my immaculate heart. And it was not done, and it wasn't really done, but even if it wasn't, it wasn't done in time. And you can see they're spread well throughout the church at this Catholic World Report piece here on the bishops and the illegal aliens, which is also a part. There's a guy, Luca. What's his name? Casarelli. You might know him. Ben Luka Casarelli was involved in that movement, popular movement. He's also involved in illegal aliens. He was also arrested for a communist protest that was violent where somebody died against Berlusconi. And he was the one that came up with that picture of Leo holding up a communist banner when he was younger during the Reagan administration, and he was protesting missiles placed against Russia when they were fighting against communist Russia. There's a picture of Leo. Leo is a communist going way back. And this Luca Kazarini has made that clear. This Luca Kazarini is a communist organizer in Italy and was at this World Popular Movements meeting. He knows Leo a long time and well, anyway, he's also pushing the illegal aliens agenda as well. And at the Catholic Report, there's a comment by a guy named Oscar at the bottom of that that shows all the crimes of illegal aliens in the United States, one after another after another after another. These are real lives. These are real violent things. These are the kinds of things that make, you know, society impossible to live in. You know, there's a piece yesterday by a guy in Germany said, I can't raise my kids. He's a comedian in Germany with 2 million followers. I'm going to have to come out of this country because it's not safe here anymore and we don't even hear about. Where are the bishops going to talk about that? How does that have to do with human dignity?
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Ben Golia
So just before we go to the commercial break, just recap for this, right? Because I think unless your sources of information are the War Room, our Wednesday show, or Canon 212, you probably aren't going to be aware of this. But the last couple of weeks then. So we've had emerged the photo of Leo from the 80s holding up communist literature as a communist agitator, but also in the last few weeks, some photos of him prostrating himself down to the pagan idol Pachamama. Right? Pachamama.
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Frank Walker
That's right.
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Ben Golia
And this is the guy that Tradinc would like us to give a little bit more time to before without rushing to judgment. Is that right? Have I synthesized that correctly? Frank Walker.
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Frank Walker
Exactly. And with them, all the bad goes together. That event he addressed was so gay and, and the organizer was a priest who's. In this horrible event, this, this obscene event. There's pictures of the organizer priest in that event. All the gayness, all the, all these bad policies, they all go together.
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Ben Golia
What's that, what's that expression from social media a few years ago that was pretty common. Everything is fake and gay. Not the War Room, however. No, but, but this is, but this is true. We speak out again and again and again and all, all that happens to us is that we are ridiculed by fake Catholic, traditionalist Catholics who say that we're extremists. And on this issue, Frank Walker, we have only ever been correct. We've only ever been truthful, and we've only ever been correct. Right?
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Frank Walker
Yes. And there's the Tradinc. One of the leaders of the Tradinc movement of the Pelican Paper has been caught. It hasn't been much news about it, but just, you know, in shady openly admitting shady dealings with money and all his charity. So you know, Tradinc's all about the money. And sometimes it's about the shady money too. And the sleazy money.
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Ben Golia
We'll be digging down on that further after two minutes. After this quick commercial break.
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Ben Golia
Welcome back. Well, continuing the narrative then of some of the things that we're hoovering up and putting together over the last month or so, is this story a report in the Spanish newspaper El Pais, the Spanish national newspaper, to a certain extent, that the Pope had told the Spanish bishops, when he was giving them their audience just in November of last year, that his biggest concern in Spain right now was that of, in his words, far right ideology. He was warning the bishops about the rise of political groups that, in his words, seek to win the Catholic vote and instrumentalize the church, which. Frank Walker, that seems somewhat ironic to me because that I think exactly what they're trying to. Exactly what the Vatican is trying to do, is it not?
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Frank Walker
That's right. That's right. And you even mentioned this weekend you're talking to Steve that, that he has nothing Catholic in his whole platform. It's all political, what he does. And you know, Francis was the same. Francis always warned against ideologies. But when Francis was warning against ideologies, it's so ironic, I always think, because what he really means is he's warning against Catholicism and the political implementation of Catholicism, not just the faith, but the faith actually lived and acted out in terms of laws and society. That's what he calls ideology. And what he his own communists, as we see today on the feast of Our lady of Fatima, ideology, he calls that Catholicism. Francis said that they stole the Catholic flag, these communists. And so when Leo goes to the Spanish bishops and he warns against ideology, it's kind of funny because, I mean, they're all liberal ideologues at this point. But it shows you, you know, because Leo is from Peru. Peru is a, as you know, Latin America is a Spanish society. But it's had liberation theology, which is communism, called, as you know, pretending to be Catholicism for a long time. So they've implemented it there for years and years and it's well installed, but in Spain, not so much. So he's coming there and he wants Spain to be more like Peru and, and Bolivia. And so it was a economic.
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Ben Golia
He wants Spain to be more like Latin America, like Latin America. He wants Europe to be more like Latin America, as did his unlamented predecessor, Pope Francis of unhappy memory. Economic basket cases. Right. That is pretty explicit and I think you put that nicely. Just let me synthesize what you just said. The strategy now, not only of the present Pope, but the immediate predecessor, is to take the traditional Catholic faith and reject it and reject those who hold that reject it. As ideology and take cultural Marxism and say that is the. The Catholic faith. That is what you have to. To believe and subscribe to. I think you put that pretty well. But it's a. It's a bait and switch. And I think, I think it's spiritual abuse. It's. It's spiritual abuse because the Catholic Church teaches Catholics, drawing from its interpretation of the Ten Commandments, that if you miss mass on a single Sunday, you are in a state of sin. And if you don't go to confession, you will spend eternity in hell if you miss one mass on Sunday. That is the perennial teaching of the church, which, that it. I'm quite happy to say that is, that is the, that is the truth. But what they're doing is they're using that discipline on faithful Catholics to make them subscribe to a philosophy which is of the world and not of Jesus Christ. It's really quite satanic, what they're doing.
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Frank Walker
Yes, I agree. It's very much. And it happened on day one when Francis showed up. And so he comes to Spain and he's surprisingly strong. And there was, there was, even though there was not a lot of hubbub about it, the people that did hear it said, wow, I can't believe he said that. But he warned them, you know, not to let, not to let these ideologues, you know, instrumentalize the faith, like you say. When he says the faith, he means communism. And so this, this happened some months back, I think. But there's, you know, in Spain, they have, they've just legalized the, through fiat, a half a million Muslims, and they have many, many more there. And people are up in arms and furious about it. He Pope sees in El Paso, say a prelate says, the Pope sees the extreme right uses believers for its purposes. And Leo is getting ready to go to Spain and he's going to visit the Canary Islands and he's going to do like a lampedusa stunt there where he waves illegal aliens in there. I mean, how unpopular is that going to be? That's going to be extremely unpopular, but he's still fighting hard against it. And the bishops are all joining him. They're saying, the bishops had said this before, the same kind of thing. You're instrumental, you're politicizing things when, when they're Catholic, you know, illegal aliens are a Catholic thing, and you're turning it into politics because it's so politically unpopular. But, I mean, I can't believe that Leo is going to be doing that stunt there. But the VOX party is what he's worried about, the VOX party are the conservative party in Spain, and they're very strong against the church. In fact, they're an excellent example where. Of how Leo and his bishops should be treated all around the world. You know, he. The head of the VOX party, says right out the Catholic bishops hate your guts. He says that it's straight to the. And it's true that they do.
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Ben Golia
What, what does El Pais write? It writes that the bishops received a papal directive to watch the activities of, and I quote the far right carefully. That's their job. That is the bishop's job in Spain. It is to monitor VOX and report that back to the Vatican. It's not to promote the gospel. Right. It's not to promote the kingdom of Jesus Christ or the teachings of Jesus Christ. It's to monitor Spanish Patriot, to monitor Spanish patriots who are supporting a party which is openly part of its. Its platform is. Is open about protecting the. The Christian roots of Spanish society. That is what this Vatican, the present Vatican and the. And its immediate predecessor, it's what they cannot abide and what they cannot support. And Frank Walker, the reason why we come on this show every Wednesday, we say the same thing again and again and again is because Catholics need to be fully aware of this and to be able to use their agency to act in the best interest of preserving their faith for themselves, for their family. There's nothing more essential for a lay Catholic than that than the preservation of the true, unchanging Catholic faith. And the people that Christ appointed and gave the charism to safeguard the integrity of the Catholic faith are now using that office to undermine the Catholic faith and under obedience to get Catholics to believe what is basically the gospel of this world. As I said before, it really is quite satanic in its subtlety. I mean, it's only subtlety if you are badly, if you're not paying attention. If this is the most important thing in your life and you're praying for this, you're praying for the ability to remain true to the Catholic faith. The wiles of the devil are extremely obvious to see. Right? They're not subtle. They're only subtle to those who, who are spiritually asleep, let's put it like that. And again, to come back to the point, Catholic laity needs to rediscover its sense of agency in exactly the same way that Republicans have done in the United States. They rediscover their sense of agency and they've taken control back over their party. And we need to do the same in the Catholic Church and bring the Catholic Church out of the hands of the hiring shepherds that are driving it into the ground to set it back on its true path. And as you said when we were discussing this very subject a couple of episodes ago, Frank Walker, you said it is true that the traditional Catholic, of course, view is as of the church as a hierarchy with the laity in its place and bishops and cardinals and popes appointed in a hierarchical order in order to, to preserve that. But that is not what we have at the moment because the Church has been hijacked by, by the. The church has been hijacked by a cabal of hireling shepherds. So right the way around, the way around that long term, I mean, I don't know what the long term solution is. You're absolutely correct that the long term solution will be the, will be for the Catholic lady to obey faithful Catholic bishops. But we're not there. And we have to get there. Right?
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Frank Walker
Right. We have to have sort of a re. Revolution and take back our church from people who aren't Catholic. If you're not a faithful Catholic, you really have no right to any position in the clergy. And so we're not obligated to obey people who are enemies of Christ. And the teaching of all the previous popes, like I just, just Pius XII is a recent pope. He excommunicated people like Leo and all of the other freaks at this event in, in Rome. You know, it's just amazing. And the VOX party in Europe is a great example of saying we're representing Catholic teaching. We're representing the historical Christian voice in the country. And you can see here that the bishops are not. And Trump has done that too. You can see here that Leo is not representing what's actual Catholic teaching over peace. And with his pacifism is not peace. And it's not Catholic teaching. And these bishops have done the same to the VOX party here. They say, well, you're not Catholic, you're anti Catholic. They call the conservatives anti Catholic fascists, just like Leo. And all the bishops called Trump anti Catholic. They're even putting up big TV sets in the Catholic masses in Miami and all around the country to have a prayer against anti Catholic Trump. But the confrontation is important because every instance of defending the actual true faith, which people know in their hearts, the true faith against these bishops and pointing them out for where they are like they have with this vox, like they do their bishops, they target them directly. You're just trying to cover up your pedophilia and you're just trying to get government money. That's what they say all the time. To the Spanish business. Leo is coming there and he's going to pull an extremely unpopular stunt in that country that's only going to please globalists. So politically it's just a, you know, it's nothing. It's a, it's just a dead fish. It's done. You need people to actually fight for the church in the name of conservative politics.
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Ben Golia
Frank. They're hiding shepherds and they have already had their reward. The thing, the solution forward is to awaken Catholics out of their sense of slumber. And so as we do, as you do, Canon 212 every day, as we do on the word, awaken Catholics out of their sense of complacency, rediscover their sense of agency and put the Church back on the right path because Christendom, Western civilization depends on it. Frank, we've got some good news today. I think going back to the Gospels. The small town mentioned in the Gospels where our blessed Lord fulfilled a number of miracles has been rediscovered after 2000 years. Stay with us. I just want to give a quick shout out to, to two more of our sponsors on today's show. Let's start with HTL Home Tide Lock. If you are a home owner, listen to this folks. Because in today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever before. And your equity is the target. You know how it works by now. The criminals forge signatures, stick them on one document, they use fake notary stamps, they pay a tiny fee with the county and that's it. Boom. Your home title has been transferred out of your name. And it is as simple as that. And then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property outright. You won't even know it's happened until you start to get those collection notices or the foreclosures. So let me ask you, when was the last time you checked your home title? Probably like me, never. And that's exactly what the scammers are counting on. And that's why we at the War Room Trust Home Title Lock use promo code steveometitlelock.com to make sure your title is still in your name. You'll also get a free title history report plus a free 14 day trial of their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 24,7 monitoring on your title, urgent alerts to any changes and fraud. If it should happen, then they're going to spend up to $1,000,000 fixing it so go to hometitlelock.com now use promo code Steve and I give a quick shout out as well to chapter. If you're 65 or already on Medicare then grab your pen and write down this number. Eight four, five War Room. Call it the guy is there unlike most of the health sector aren't paid off by the health lobby, the multibillion dollar a year health lobby. They will give you at chapter impartial advice and tell you how you might be able to lower premiums because they of course read the fine print that nobody but a lobbyist would understand and millions of American seniors are paying way too much. So call once again 845war room right now and tell them when they answer the phone that Steve Bannon sent you, it's totally free. No pressure, no bs. So Frank Walker closing five minutes of the show. Beth Saida mentioned many times in in the Gospels if I'm not mistaken, it's where the feeding of the 5,000 was reputed to take have taken place Again if I'm not mistaken, after the the resurrection the, the feeding of the 5,000 is the only miracle in the New Testament to be accounted to be mentioned and to be narrated in all four Gospels. The three synoptics and John. The feeding of the the 5,000. Beth Slater, tell me what has been discovered on the north shore of the Sea of Galilee.
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Frank Walker
Well they, they I think it was in some area of brush that's nearby. It's like they but they found an old Byzantine era church and underneath that a house and they're thinking that that's could be the house of Peter because this was the, the town of Peter, Andrew and Philip. So that's a big deal to find the, the first Pope's actual house in the town where they had where Jesus fight fed the 5000 and where Jesus healed a blind man and where he walked on water nearby. So it was, you know, and Jesus yelled at the town of Bethsaida. He said woe to you if all Americans if the works performed and you were performed in other places they would have put on sackcloth and ashes. But you didn't, you know, you didn't repent and you should repent. These are all the biblical references to this. So if you've actually found a church that was over the house of Peter, that's a big deal. They're not making it like it's definite, they're saying that but it's about as compelling as it gets in this talk that they gave in Washington D.C. you know, I think It's a very hopeful story because, you know, if we can find the House of Peter again, then maybe we can actually get a Catholic Pope again.
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Ben Golia
Tell me, I don't mean to be cynical, Frank Walker, but why is this suddenly coming to note right now at this moment in time? Seems a bit like an ace that's been up a sleeve and, and somebody in Israel has thought now's a great time to play this card. Am I being cynical?
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Frank Walker
I don't know. And you, you, you know, you, you, you have a, you're insightful. So if you think that that might be the case. I don't know. There were three towns, different towns that were vying for the place that it was, that was actual ruin. But now they actually feel like they've discovered it. I don't know. Do you see another, other evidence than that? They said that now it's down to just two but they think this is like the key evidence. But in the piece it doesn't really say what exactly it was about it.
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Ben Golia
I need to push up, I need to push up on the Gospel because I thought, I always thought St. Peter was from Capernaum and I've obviously got something because I've been my head, I need to go back and do a reference on that. I thought Capernaum was where, was where Christ sort of. That was the headquarters of Christ's missionary work in and around Galilee rather than Bethsaida.
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Frank Walker
Well, okay, well, I think you might be right here. It says we have on the first century house wall under the apse. It doesn't have a plaque that says Peter slept here, but from perspective archeology, it doesn't get much better than that.
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Ben Golia
No, maybe you're right, maybe they don't know. But I don't want to be cynical, but I found the dropping of this particular. Because of course it's going to get a lot of Americans very interested right now wanting pilgrimages to Grover, to the Holy Land. But I don't mean to be cynical. Perhaps it's totally innocent and it's the
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Frank Walker
age of the Leo, so we have to hear about the first Pope a lot. I, I that, that kind of thing. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Ben Golia
Yeah, well, I, I always like to. Yeah, of course. I, I, I do insist however that, that unlike the mainstream media narrative, we don't consider not on the war room Leo as being the first American Pope because I think his formation is totally Latin American, folks. That is, it's amazing how quickly in our go studies all we have time for. I do want to give a shout out. I mentioned it at the beginning of the show. I do want to give a shout out to Canon 21 2. I check that website every day so I get a feeling for myself that I'm up to date with all the developments especially in the Catholic faith, especially trad Catholic issues. That means so much to us. And Frank, I know you Update that so site 247 is it's it's a full time plus job for you. One very quickly where do people go for canon 212 and for stumbling block
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Frank Walker
type canon 212 up in the address line and the stumbling block is my daily update that's also at Rumble and a Gloria TV Beautiful.
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Ben Golia
Thanks very much Frank for staying with us for this whole hour folks. Steve will be back in the chair 10am tomorrow morning. My thanks my very great thanks for Spencer holding the fort. A real America's voice in Denver and as we take the moment now to wish you God Bless, a great evening.
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