
WarRoom Battleground EP 1011: Our Twin Existential Priorities: Stop The INVASION And DEPORT The Invaders...
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Friday, 15th of May, Anno Domini 2026 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Good evening. Well, big shocking news I think came out of Greece this week and that is the Greek migration. Minister Thanos Plevris had said that his government, the Greek government have estimated, according to their intelligence services, operatives that are located all across the northern coast of Africa, especially in Libya and Tunisia, that there are 550,000 invaders sitting tight on standby waiting to illegally break in to continental Europe on its southern front flank. What's happening right now isn't that they're coming in through to Lampedusa, which was the, the island off the south coast of the of the Italian peninsula. They're coming in to Crete this time around in Greece, one of the, one of the islands of the Greek archipelago which is slightly strange because normally the, the west, the western Libyan point of, of Tripoli was funneling people in to, to Italy, southern Italy and the eastern Libyan point Benghazi of Hillary Clinton fame was, was funneling people in via the south of Greece. This longer route means that at least something is being done to make the entrance slightly more tortuous and of course to put people off. So with me to talk about this, because this, we'll talk about this in the second half of the first block of the show is Lorenzo Bernasconi of the center of Machiavellian Political Studies. Because this will fundamentally, if this half a million invaders make it through in intercontinental Europe, this will fundamentally transform the political spectrum. We'll talk about that a little bit in just over a quarter of an hour. But first, Lorenzo, thanks for coming onto the room. Tell me please what the news coming out of Greece is around this 550,000 projection. Is it a serious credible estimate? Are they overestimating Are they underestimating? Is this the middle Mitsotakis center right, the Christian Democrat government just being performative, putting pressure on to Brussels to wipe the Greek government's hands of the impending catastrophe? Or are they really starting to do something about this now?
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Good morning. Well, I think they are underestimating the threat. The threat is very serious. Everybody in Europe now is speaking about a future hypothetical invasion from Russia. But we are dealing with a real invasion from the southern flank of the continent. The situation is extremely serious. And with the summer, with the good weather that comes with the summer, it can only get worse. And yes, of course the Greek government just as much as the Spanish one and the Italian one is on the front line because everybody at the end of the day iter lands in Italy or in Greece or in Spain. But the real problem we have is that we have too many factors. These people know that if they come, if they manage to get into Europe, they will not be expelled. They will be able to get free money, free housing, pretty much any kind of benefit you can think of. It is not possible, it is not logically possible to have an European style welfare state and open borders. It simply doesn't add up.
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All right, we're going to talk about this because this is a mirror situation I think of what is happening right now over in Spain with the inverted commas. The regularization of a similar Number of people, 500,000. Giving those 500,000 invaders proper residency permits in Spain will then mean that they can then disperse across the whole of continental Europe, the whole of the Schengen Zone. Obviously they're not allowed to do that. You know, once you have the papers, the residency papers for Spain, you're supposed to stay in Spain, but you are allowed to travel with those documents and you just get a one way flight and they're, and then you, they, you stay and you can choose and you could go shopping for the best benefits system. That's exactly what's going to, going to happen. But you, you said something Lorenzo, just a couple of moments ago. Our audience, we do have an international worldwide audience, but it's the lion's share of the war room is, is in the United States. You mentioned something. I wouldn't mind if you just sort of explain the significance of this because you said that the, the main crossing season is in the summer and that's right, it's like between I think May and September, traditionally at least in into Italy. Those are the main crossing times. Just explain why that is especially in the context the present government here In Italy, the Giorgio Maloney government of Fratelli Italia says constantly that the numbers are down. Of course they are down because for the last six months it hasn't been the, the migration season. So it's somewhat, I think, distracting. But just, just explain why that is, why the, the embarkations on these rubber dinghies and overloaded fishing vessels take place at a specific point of the, of the year.
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Well, of course, the point is that despite when you read on the European media that a large boat has disembarked on the Italian coast with 200, 300 people. Yes, it happens. But most of the people in reality come on small boats that are not able to cross the Mediterranean with the, with the winter weather. So even if larger ships can get through the Mediterranean in the winter, most of the people coming, it's not like one single group, but many, many group of 10, 12, 20 people. But coming every day, every day, every night they try to land at night as long as they can because they will not be found by the police. It is easier just to land on the desert shore and disappear. And they have criminal contacts in the country? Of course, the Italian Mafia and some other criminal organizations are actively involved in this trafficking because most of, not most, but many of these people, the minute they land, they get recruited by these criminal networks in order to sell drug, to handle a prostitution business. So yes, the, in the summer the number of people coming increases dramatically. And if you look at the historical data, it's always in the summer. Yes, this winter was not that bad. But no, winter in the past seven years was extremely critical from this point of view. But you have to look to the past summers and you will see what you can expect in the coming months.
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Just tell me what you just happened to mention the Mafia again to our largely American audience. You mentioned the Mafia. When people think of the Godfather or Goodfellas, you can say this as an Italian, say a bit about these criminal networks because of course it's not just the Mafia, it's also the Catholic Church, the institutional Catholic Church, which creates a very unusual coalition of, of of interest, both in it for the money. But just, just say, just say a little bit about the, the crime syndicates here in Italy that how they are involved in the human trafficking situation.
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Well, Mafia and similar criminal organization have changed a lot from what people can imagine from movies like the Good Father or Good Fellas. Well, now they have become a business and most of their activity is recycling, cleaning up dirty money in legal activities in legal businesses. So they tend to outsource like small activities like small size drug dealing, prostitution, etc. To foreigners. And the Italians stay on the top of the organizations and handle the more like the cleaner and more financial aspects of the activity. So yes, there is a sort of agreement between the local mafia and the foreign and the foreign organization. And also another interesting fact that is not very well known about the largest foreign mafia in Italy is the Nigerian one. There is even a parliamentary committee that has published a very interesting report on this issue because it's an extremely violent organization. They mix some sort of tribal beliefs, tribal traditions, drugs and extreme radical violence. They deal mostly with drug but also prostitution and weapon trafficking. And they are, they are extremely violent and our police forces are not used to deal with this kind of phenomena. And also the Nigerian community is extremely hard to penetrate. They don't trust Italians, they don't trust foreigners and they are super scared of these criminals. So it's hard to find someone that will cooperate with the Italian police authorities. And yes, you mentioned the Catholic Church. That's another interesting topic. It is not just the church. Part of the church of course is supporting ideologically unlimited immigration. But there are a lot of NGOs that take money from the state. They get an incredible amount of public money, they spend a tiny percentage for actually hosting these illegal immigrants and they make a lot of profit. So hosting immigrants has become a business. And in 2018, when the first Conte government cut the funds for these NGOs, none of them wanted to host immigrants anymore because they were super happy to host more and more people as long as the state was paying the bill. When we said, okay, we will provide you the real cost you're spending for hosting immigrants, but you are not buying a Ferrari anymore with the profit you make on this money. These NGOs like disappeared. What a surprise.
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It's funny that I don't mean to be cynical about this, but the institutional Catholic Church I always stress that I'm talking about in my criticism of the Vatican, of the succession of popes pro invasion political policies. My criticisms are directed to the institution that is the Catholic Church, not to the church comprised of believers comprising the mystical body of Jesus Christ, it's important to stress that. But I don't mean to be cynical, but when the Catholic Church talks about the gospel imperative of welcoming the foreigner and the stranger is sort of sitting somewhat on say Mother Teresa's coattails, who had a worldwide, a beloved figure across the whole world through genuinely living the gospel on the, on the streets, on the slum streets of Calcutta and Of course, Mother Teresa welcomed the poor, the dying, bathed them often with her own hands for what, 60, 70 years. She did this out of love for the poor, seeing in the poor person the face of Jesus Christ. That is one of those beautiful witnesses to the gospel, I think in the 20th century. What she didn't then do after that was send an invoice via recorded delivery to the Indian government and say, cough up, pay up for my charity, for my services. It was done out of the gospel, what the Catholic Church is doing today. It's using the same language and the same imagery, but it's the Italian word, the welcoming. But we'll do the welcoming of the, of the invaders. And here's our invoice to the Italian state. You can pay us many hundreds of millions of euros per year. That's not charity, that's not living the gospel. That is Lorenzo, as you are correctly saying, a business. Dig in slightly more on this point just after I give a quick shout out to, to one of the show's sponsors today, Birch Gold Group. When there are supply constraints on commodities, prices surge. You saw it with fuel prices when the Strait of Hormuz was blockaded. And you know what else is a limited commodity? Gold. 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You know, they might have been browbeaten 10, 15 years ago away from supporting parties that the state and the authorities were calling far right or neo fascist or whatever. People don't care about that anymore. They know they're not fascist, they know they're not far right. They just want a political party that's going to do something serious about stopping the invasion and reversing it, the re migration. I wonder if we'll have a moment to talk about that a little later in the show today because these two things are go hand in hand. First stop the invasion and then start sending people back. Tell me what your perspective is in your perch up in northern Italy. You've been watching the political transformation take place here in Italy. What do you think is going to happen to continental Europe, to the politics in continental Europe if the Greek government is correct in its estimate and 550,000 people are ready to disembark, ready to disembark on European shores now that the summer trafficking season is about to start? I might add, just before you answer that question, that the United nations itself, according to their figures, say there's something like 960,000 people in Libya waiting, potentially ready to come across. That's nearly double the figure. Tell me what you think is going to happen. What's your prognosis for European politics? Are we going to see a continuation of this trend from the hemorrhaging of support from what was once mainstream Christian democracy over to the populist nationalist inverted commas, far right?
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Well, for sure, I expect a rise in the polls in Germany for Alternative for Deutschland, the right wing party that has promised to put a stop to this legal immigration and I expect that there are several in France can, can go quite a lot as well. Even if every time we have a new wave, a new large wave of illegal immigration, France basically closes the border with Germany and Italy to try to prevent These people from coming in because the French government is very open to welcoming these, these illegals, but not in France, in other, in other European countries. But we have a huge problem with the European Commission because the European Commission is pushing this idea of relocation, this idea that each European country must share the burden of illegal immigration. But it's an extremely stupid approach because the more if you send a message to these people, okay, you will be relocated inside Europe, but you will stay somewhere in Europe is the biggest pull factor you can imagine. And people in Poland or in Hungary, they don't want, they travel inside Europe, they see what Paris has become, what Berlin has become, and they don't want the same situation in their countries. And in Italy, we have a right wing government at the moment that is trying to do something to reduce the phenomenon. Of course, we are not geographically in a nice position because we are right on the front on the southern coast of Europe. And also we have to live with this pressure from Brussels. I think that sometimes our American friends don't fully understand is how the European legislation impacts the capability of national governments to act. Often we have to fight legally with the European Union to uphold our right to decide how to handle a lot of issues, including immigration. Often we lose this because year after year the European Commission has tried to concentrate more and more power inside the Brussels not elected elite and taking this power away from the nation states and away from the people. So it's. The legal framework we have at the moment is extremely unfavorable. Also we have international level a problem that our courts, including the Constitutional Court has decided that any kind of benefit, any kind of service we provide to Italian citizens, we have to provide the same to these people, even if they are not legal, like housing, health care. And of course that's not sustainable economically, that that's not sustainable because these people come here with nothing. They come here, they don't want to work. They need everything from food, housing, healthcare, and they don't contribute in any way to our economy.
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In the, in the, the closing two minutes of this interview, just give me your quick take on this because you and I have both worked in the European Parliament in Brussels. Okay. Do you think that the Brussels establishment is, and I'm talking, say, Ursula von der Leyen, the Commission, do you think the EU establishment is prepared for the tsunami, the tsunami of political, of popular political rebellion that will wash over continental Europe if they stand by and let half a million sub Saharan Africans into continental Europe? Are they aware of it? Are they prepared for it? Do you think have they correctly estimated the risk even to their own, the, the viability of their own political structures?
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I think they believe they can get away criminalizing dissenters. I think they have learned the lesson of the UK they think if they criminalize any kind of protest, any kind of idea that is not, that is not approved by their plan. Well, I think, I think they, they think they will be able to discourage people from protesting and they will be able to dismantle patriotic parties simply attacking at judicial level, judiciary level, their most prominent members. But I think they, they got it wrong because there will be millions, millions of Europeans that are fed up with this situation and that will vote for right wing parties all across Europe. And either they think they can jail millions of Europeans and they don't have, in practical terms, they don't have the resources to do that. And unless they are able to do that, and they're not, they will not succeed. I'm pretty sure they will not succeed.
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Lorenzo, thanks very much for coming on the warm. Just tell me before you go a little bit about the Centro Studi Politici Estrategici Machiavelli about your work, what the War in Posse can perhaps if they go onto your website, learn more about you. Tell us a bit, just in 30 seconds, what you're doing there in northern Italy.
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Sure. We are the largest conservative visiting tank in Italy. We cover a lot of many different topics from geopolitics to ethics and moral issues, cultural things, defense as well. And we try to make our country and Europe as a house for European and for free, as a collective house of free nations. We try to make Italy and Europe great again and greater and less work because work is another, it's another issue that has got very big in the last years in Europe. And as you know well, when you go work, you go broke.
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When you go work, you go broke very quickly on, on X. Where, where do people go to find you on X or Facebook?
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Oh yes.
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Where do people go on X or Facebook?
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Yeah, X, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. We are present on all the main platforms.
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Perfect. Lorenzo Bernasconi, thank you so much for coming on the warm. Come back again. Especially I wouldn't mind digging a little deeper into the domestic political situation with you once day here in Italy.
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Welcome back, folks. Well, in the first half of the show, we were discussing the news that the Greek government had identified 550,000 Sub Saharan Africans waiting to commence their voyage into the southern flank of Europe. And I made the point that stopping the illegal Third World invasion is only half of the challenge because the other half is sending back those who have illegally come in to continental Europe. And as I was talking through with the producer of this show, the Friday show that I do, Victoria, and I was saying we need someone on to talk about the remigration aspect of this, he said that every time we come up with an idea on the war and that we need to dive into something. Aryan Agashahi has already pipped us to the Post with an article and indeed he has done yet again, incredible, incredible article in the Hungarian Conservative, which we're going to talk about with Aryan right now, is always very, very popular when he comes on to our Friday show. Aryan, thanks for coming on. What you have done here is simply outstanding. Right. I cannot compliment, compliment it enough because you have in the, when people are talking about this, you have so much performative exhibition, exhibitionism on social media, people saying, oh, you know, send them back, it's terrible. But there's never really any structural thought on exactly how, what needs to be done here in a coordinated way. You have done this, you have put the, the thought and the analysis into this. And I'd like to, to share this with the war room posse today. I know that you've specifically developed your six pillars here, your framework within the German legal context. I will make the suggestion at the end that making the necessary changes, this should be a blueprint for the whole of continental Europe. And I'll do what I can to get this out to our, to our political parties that we're in constant communication with across, across the European Union. But first of all, just tell us very quickly about the article that you wrote, well, way back in October of last year and then perhaps talk us through the six pillars that you have identified.
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Yes, thank you first of all for having me. It's always a pleasure to join you. Nice to see you again. You know, generally speaking, I'm joining you from Germany as someone who has spent years studying how migration reshapes not just numbers on chart, but the everyday reality of a country. And because of my own biographical background, I have seen up close how quickly neighborhoods, institutions and political culture can change once a state gives up control over its borders. And before I start going through the six pillars you mentioned already, it's important to mention that I personally grew up watching how debates about integration, security and identity move from the margins to the every center of political life, often only after problems had become impossible to ignore. I think Germany is a textbook example for that. That experience has made me very skeptical of the comforting narratives that elites like to tell about manageable or enriching migration flows. And from that vantage point, what I want to offer you right now is, as you mentioned, not another layer of rhetoric, but concrete blueprint, six institutional pillars that would turn migration control from political theater into serious statecraft. First, in Germany, of course, the heart of the Problem in Europe at least, but ultimately across Europe, for any country that is still willing to govern rather than merely act.
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Go for it. Let's go for it. Let's hit the first point now.
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Yes. So the first pillar is a federal deportation and border agency with real teeth, designed to end the current fragmentation of responsibility in Germany today. Enforcement Is spread across 16 states plus countless local authorities. You know, the police force in Germany, due to historical reasons, is totally locally structured, which means that whenever deportations fail or when an obviously unenforceable tolerated status is extended again and again, no one can really be held directly accountable. And a central agency would reverse that. It would have a clear constitutional mandate like the German Federal Police, a unified chain of command, its own training, data systems and personnel, and the obligation to deliver measurable results in terms of removals and border integrity. And you know, this is not just about creating some exotic German special institution. It is really about doing what every serious state does in the other fields. You know, think about tax authorities or central banks and just apply the same logic to migration. And this is the message.
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Let me just stop you there, Ian. Let me just stop you there. Does that mean that in Germany today, such a state heavy society as it is, there is no centrally organized police force that can work across all 16 states at a federal level, working together to send the, the, the, the, the millions of people who've come into the country illegally to send them back?
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Yeah, basically that's true. You know, of course, Germany has the reputation of being heavily state organized, but not only due to our history in the short period in the Second World War, also generally, culturally, Germany is really a federalist country in the sense of the federalism in the U.S. which means that the states have a very strong role. And unfortunately, with respect to immigration, the individual states and the local police forces still have basically too many layers of authority. And we don't really have a federally organized, centrally managed deportation force.
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Okay, I had no idea that this, I had no idea that the situation was so bad, but it makes sense. It explains a few things. So first of all, then you, you want something like the, the American ICE basically that's there to working specifically across all the 16 lender. To working together to, to, to start the, the repatriations to. The second point that you have here is that you want a modification within the judicial system in order to fast track the legal appeals and processes. Just give me two minutes on that.
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Yeah, you know, one of the problems is that, you know, parties which rightly criticize the current status quo does not offer really do not offer really what needs to be changed legally. So therefore, the second pillar of such a concept must be what actually needs to be done legally in the framework and in practice. You know, in our case, that would mean that we need to rewrite the core migration statutes so that deportation is defined as a federal duty, not a municipal courtesy that can be declined when it is politically inconvenient. And, you know, detention prior to removal, for instance, should be the norm, actually. And there should be constitutionally tested time limits, of course. But what we currently have is actually like a cloudy toleration statutes and humanitarian extensions that allow people to remain in legal limbo for years. And this needs to be abolished and radically narrowed so that every moment each individual is either in a clear procedure, in lawful detention or in the process of leaving.
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So you want an end to the theatrics, the performative oh, the German political states is over. We'll send people back who shouldn't be here. But knowing, of course, that outside of the political framework, you have the judicial framework that people can play invaders can play for years and years and years and years and years without anything happening. So the second point of your framework is you want the ability for people to game the judicial system, but also the ability for the judges themselves to be somewhat constrained so that they have to implement the laws passed. Right. We'll come back to your thematic sequences from ideas 3, 4, 5 and 6 just in 2 minutes time after this quick ad read. Well, folks, perhaps you owe back taxes. Perhaps you haven't filed in years. Now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system in some states moving towards that, already the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. And that's why right now Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they might be able to do to help you before it's too late. Call 1800958 1000. That's 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon for your free discovery call with Tax Network USA. Don't let the IRS be the first to act. And of course, when you phone them and they're great guys there, TN usa, tell them that Steve Bannon's war room shepherded you along. Back now to Erin Agashahi. Erin, what's your thought? Third item here on your your six pillars, your Blueprint.
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I think this is, you know, one of the most important with respect to Germany, because for too long, European governments have treated foreign aid. And I think Germany is really the textbook example for that. Just take a look in our household and see the numbers here. They have treated, treated foreign aid and market access as almost unconditional moral gesture and entirely disconnected from the basic expectations that partner stakes take back their own citizens when they have no right to remain here. And, you know, the third pillar is very straightforward. Every major recipient of German or EU development assistance should be bound by cooperation agreements that make readmission a central, measurable objective. In Germany, this would mean that the German Development Ministry would be required by an amendment to its founding act to subordinate its programs to deportation compliance, so that funding volumes, project selection, and technical cooperation all depend on whether a state. State reliably issues travel documents and accepts returnees. And countries that systematically refuse to issue travel documents and accept returnees should face automatic consequences.
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Okay, just to explain what this is about, folks, in the European Union, I think pretty much all of the member states have signed an agreement to give. I think it's not off the top of my head, it's like 0.6% of their GDP in international foreign aid to developing countries. Now, put that issue to the side one moment. I personally don't think we should be giving anything whatsoever, but put that issue to one side for one moment. What Arian is saying here is that we're giving massive amounts of cash and budgets of development aid budget support every year to developing countries, including those in Africa. And what happens is once someone, an invader has been through the system and the courts say, okay, this person has to go back, they're not a genuine asylum seeker, as rare as that is right there. You know, it occasionally happens that the courts will say, okay, there's, there's simply no pretext here for, for us to argue that this guy has to. Can stay, has to go back. The, the, the, the, the. The. The country of origin in Africa will say, we, we don't want. We weren't accepted. We don't want it because, you know, he's not gonna add anything to our economy. You pay for him. So what Aaron is saying is we actually have leverage here in order to force these countries because we give them a lot of money. We actually should use that leverage and make these countries take back their citizens. I think, I think President Trump is actually doing something on the American front on that regard. Great. Couldn't agree with you more on that one, Aaron. Fourth point moving Ahead because see if we get all of these in. But in the last five minutes of the show you said you that Germany needs to have its own transport fleet so it's not reliant on commercial carriers to send people back.
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Yeah, let me maybe summarize the fourth and the fifth point because of the time issue. So the fourth point is that, you know, the newly created agency I mentioned before must command its own air transport fleet for removals rather than begging commercial airlines to cooperate. So we need a dedicated deportation air fleet created by amending aviation laws so that the federal government can run its own charter operations for return flights, you know, with crews, schedules and security fully under the authority of the German state. And once you do that, you take the potations out of the hands of private carriers that are vulnerable to activist pressure campaigns. And the fifth one is a pillar which was kind of already implemented, which is probably because it's also the weakest pillar. It said we need a biometric exit controls at all borders points to track overstays and issue automatic deportation warrants. If I'm not mistaken here, this was already introduced last year, which was very interesting. So around the same time when my article was published and I started to travel doing international flights, we already had this newly implemented biometric X exits in all so called Schengen exits, which was something new.
B
Yes, the entry and exit system, which is, I think they brought it in from 1st of April or something of this year. It is now taking place. But again, you're ahead of the game on this one, Arian. You came out with the idea in October and now it has been implemented. Finally, the sixth idea you want to an amendment to the section 95 of the Residence act saying that illegal overstaying in Germany ought to be treated as a criminal offense rather than just an administrative offense.
D
Absolutely. I think that it has a populist flavor to it, but I think it's very accurate philosophically as well. An illegal presence should really be considered as a criminal offense, not merely, you know, as an administrative violation. So what we need to introduce is mandatory minimum sentences of what I propose as six months of imprisonment because this is a deterrent for, you know, illegal aliens. And those who enter or remain illegally must face imprisonment followed by permanent inadmissibility to Germany and the entire Schengen Zone under this enhanced section of our act.
B
There you go folks. You have the blueprint there. And this is the time. It was profit, I say prophetic, it was providential Aryan, that you prepared this just sort of six or so months ago. Because I tell you what folks, if, if the Greek government is correct and these 550,000 sub Saharan Africans set sail and try to break in illegally into the southern flank of continental Europe, there is going to be absolute, there's going to be an anger on behalf of the people that will, I think, sweep what the press call the far right to power, executive power. And this is the blueprint to stop just simply the performative theatrics on social media and actually do something fundamental about the problem. Aryan, you are the war, the War room's favorite Aryan nationalist. Thank you as always for coming on the show and and sharing with us your analysis. Great ideas here. I say this is in the Hungarian Conservative folks. Do get the article, we'll put it out and do have a look at study, share it and forward it on. Erin, I know you are a fellow at the Danube Institute run by the legendary John o', Sullivan, former speechwriter to Margaret Thatcher. They're doing great work over there at the Danube Institute. Where do people go on social media to keep up with all of your writings and analysis?
D
Ariangermany on X or LinkedIn.
B
That's perfect. And that's where they, and they can get your article from the Hungarian Conservative there as well, right?
D
Absolutely.
B
Absolutely perfect. There it is. Perfect. Aaron, thanks. Thanks as always for coming on the show folks. I'll just give you the quick number again for Birch Gold. It's 989-898. Speak to Philip Patrick today. My thanks to Spencer and the team at Real America's Voice in Denver and of course to Vittorio Santi Franco who spent the entire week putting this fantastic show together just for your entertainment. Take care, Steve. Back at 10am tomorrow. God bless.
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Our Twin Existential Priorities: Stop The INVASION And DEPORT The Invaders
Date: May 15, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon (with guest host and panelists)
Notable Guests: Lorenzo Bernasconi (Centro Studi Politici Estrategici Machiavelli), Aryan Agashahi (Danube Institute)
This episode centers on two urgent priorities perceived by the War Room team and guests: first, stopping what is described as a mass “invasion” of migrants into Europe (primarily from Africa), and second, outlining concrete steps necessary to deport those already in the continent illegally. The first half focuses on new data and warnings out of Greece regarding imminent mass migration, highlighting political, legal, and social implications. The second half shifts to a structured discussion with policy analyst Aryan Agashahi, who presents a six-pillar blueprint for the “remigration” (deportation) of illegal immigrants, using Germany as a case study but with applicability across Europe.
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“Either they think they can jail millions of Europeans… they don't have the resources to do that.” (24:30, C)
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Remedy fragmentation among German states and local authorities by creating an agency akin to the U.S.'s ICE, responsible for removals and border enforcement.
“A central agency would have a clear constitutional mandate… unified chain of command, its own training, data systems and personnel, and the obligation to deliver measurable results…” (37:50, D)
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Make cooperation on deportation a pre-condition for foreign aid to origin countries, using financial leverage to enforce readmission of returnees.
“Funding volumes, project selection, and technical cooperation all depend on whether a state reliably issues travel documents and accepts returnees.” (44:30, D)
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Upgrade illegal presence from an administrative to a criminal offense, recommending mandatory minimum sentences and permanent inadmissibility for violators.
“Illegal presence should really be considered as a criminal offense, not merely… an administrative violation.” (49:25, D)
This episode frames the migration crisis as civilizational and existential, demanding both immediate border action and fundamental legal, political, and institutional transformation. The offered “blueprint” functions both as a roadmap for policymakers opposed to current EU/gov approaches and as a rallying point for War Room’s global nationalist audience.