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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
medieval on these people.
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Steve Bannon
You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Host/Interviewer
And where do people like that go
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Steve Bannon
to share the big lie?
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Host/Interviewer
MAGA Media I wish in my soul,
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
country, this country will be saved.
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Steve Bannon
War Room here's your host, Stephen K Ban.
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Host/Interviewer
Friday 19th of June, Anno Domini 2020 and 26. Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's Warren. Folks don't know how he did it made it through to Friday evening. Exhausting week as has been full of events. We're going to start off today because the. The populist nationalist revolution right across the world that fundamentally was inaugurated by Donald Trump's assault on the US political system in 2015, 2016 has its parallel movements in other countries, one of the leading ones of which is taking place in the UK right now. There was a key by election, which is, as Americans call, special election yesterday in the uk and we're going to first of all discuss that and then move on to the wider deterioration in France. I've got Charles Cornish dale with us. Dr. Cornish Dale, doctors of Philosophy a better known to the Twitter sphere as raw egg nationalist. Dr. Cornish Dale, very welcome on to the War Room. Firstly, now, I have some takes myself about the Makerfield by election, but I want to hear firstly what your assessment is. Some people are suggesting this is a huge disappointment for Nigel Farage. Obviously he didn't win. There was some momentum after the local government elections recently and some anticipation that he was going to. And I never really thought he was actually going to win this one. I'll tell you why. First of all, you're there in the uk. What's your assessment of this and what it means for the. The momentum behind reform right now? And then we'll talk about the actual statistics and the breakdown of the results itself.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
It's great to be back on the War Room. Yeah. No, crucial by election last night in Makerfield, Manchester area of the uk, the north. It's a Labour heartland. I mean that's, I think the first thing to remember. This is a Labour Heartland. And the seat, I think, has been in Labour hands for the best part of 100 years. I mean, this really is. This really is a safe seat for Labour. It's a seat where they can rely on generational loyalty to the party. And I think that's what they got with Andy Burnham. Andy Burnham got, I think, 50% of the vote. Reform got 35%. The insurgent party Restore, led by Rupert Lowe, who was kicked out of Reform last year by Nigel Farage, got seven point, I think 7.8%. So, I mean, it was a very, very clear win for Andy Burnham, who is currently mayor of Manchester. And the thing about, you know, the thing I think you have to remember about mayors like the mayor of Manchester is it's not particularly a difficult job. It's a job that it's easy to be popular when you are the mayor of a city like Manchester. You know, you put in some extra bus lanes, you do some vanity infrastructure projects. It's kind of softball politics, really. And so he's popular in the local area. He's well known. He's referred to as Andy, he's referred to by his first name. You know, people see him as a member of the community. It was always going to be Labour's seat to lose. So, yes, I mean, I agree with your assessment that actually it was unlikely that Nigel Farage's Reform Party with their candidate Rob Kenyon, were going to do all that well. And, I mean, I don't think Rob Kenyon was a great choice. He's a plumber. I mean, he was a local from the area, but I don't think he was a great candidate. There were some controversies about Facebook posts that were dug up where he said sort of derogatory things about a television presenter. So they had some problems. But nevertheless, I think what happened is exactly what we should have expected to happen.
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Host/Interviewer
Yeah. Firstly, let's just go back a little bit because this needs to be dealt with in the analysis, the overall analysis of what this means for British politics. You mentioned that Makerfield is a Labor heartland, and yet I think some people were looking at the statistics, the results from the local government elections when Reform did very well and misinterpreted the broader dynamics that allowed Reform to do so well, in that context, in those local government elections. Tell me how in just the span of a couple of months, that you can. Can get that inversion and what the conclusion is that you draw from that.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Well, I mean, I think it's important not to confuse local elections, which are often. They're often treated as a kind of protest vote. You often get very different results in local elections from national elections. People will often go out and vote in local elections who don't then go out and vote in parliamentary elections. There's an interesting dynamic. And so it's a very, very mistaken attitude to think that oh yes, well, reform did amazingly well in the local elections, which they really did. I mean they swept the board. But it's a mistake to think, okay, well that's going to translate then to a clean sweep in a general election or even a significant victory in a by election. So yeah, I mean it was easy I think with all the enthusiasm behind reform as a result of the local council elections to oh, this is going to be a queen clean sweep too. And it wasn't.
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Host/Interviewer
Okay, so let's, I'm going to run my thesis behind you now. These are my takeaways and I'd like to know what, what you think to my analysis. So there are a couple of takeaways here. First of all, it would appear from this election, the by election, the special election to parliament yesterday and I just add for our largely American audience that in the UK by tradition elections, by elections, general elections, they take place on Thursdays in the uk. Firstly, my, the, the Tory Party, the Conservative Party, the if the Her Majesty's opposition in Parliament here in this election was, was just basically slightly above a few points above statistical zero. Right. 2 to 3%. And Rupert Lowe's restore got I think three times, just over three times what the Conservatives got as you point out. Nigel Farage's reform came in second, clear, clear, decisive second at around 35%. So here's my takeaway. It would appear that on the basis of this, and people do vote differently in by elections from the way they vote in in general elections. But it would appear from this result reform is now firmly positioned itself as the official opposition. That would be the first thing I would say. And it is supplanted at least in the north of England. And it absolutely supplanted the Tory Party. That said there were two other by elections that took place yesterday. They weren't nearly as I think it was Aberdeen, right, Aberdeen south up in Scotland that the Tory Party won its first by election in Scotland for 50 years. And there was another election in Scotland, I think the snp, the Scottish, the Scott, the Scottish Nationalist Party maintained. So those are the three results that took place yesterday. Very different results in very different local contexts. But we're focusing on Makerfield right now because that is pretty significant Significant for a number of reasons. Okay. First of all, my first conclusion is on this, Charles, is that it would appear that Nigel Farage's reform is now firmly at the parliamentary level in number two position, or potentially number one, depending on the by election and the context. Point one. Point two for all the sustaining push of social media, and specifically Elon Musk behind Rupert Lowe and Restore, pushing hard in the algorithms didn't get more than 7%. Okay. And that, that is important to say Nigel Farage, and I'm a great fan of his. I, you know, a great, great fan of it. I've known him, what, 30 years? Slightly, but for 30 years. Not a perfect individual. None of us, Steve, would say first off about anyone. Not a perfect individual, but none of us are perfect. Nigel Farage refused to bend the knee to Elon Musk, who expected to be treated like a medieval king at court. Nigel Farage refused to do that, refused to subjugate his movement and his political party to the dictates of, as we call him here on, on the war, Elmo. And so, you know, I'm leading. I'm the leader of this, this, this political party and that's the way I'm not going to expect, take orders from, from anyone else. So one of the most important social media operations that is pretty def, Pretty decisive in shifting public opinion wasn't able to move the needle, particularly in favor of Elmo's personal deliberate spite project to damage Nigel Farage and reform as much as he could. With all that, the resources that Twitter throw it. And that is an important, I think, takeaway. My third observation, which is simply statistical, is that neither reform is that with, with RESTORE standing, it wasn't able to reform and Restore together wouldn't have been able to supplant Andy Burnham. Okay, so those, those are my preliminary takeaways. I will also add to that is that there's a consequence and I, I don't know if I'd have been in Nigel Farage's boots. I don't know if I, I would have fielded a candidate in this election for a number of reasons. Not least set up at least the narrative that Andy Burnham is the guy on behalf of the British establishment that can actually face Nigel Farage down in a way that Kemi Badenuk, the leader of the Toy Party, is obviously unable and inadequate to be able to do. But neither Keir Starmer, the present and one presumes outgoing prime Minister, is able to do either. Right, that's another takeaway that's going to develop in the British press 100 moving forward. And I, I add for our American audience, you mentioned that he was the, the Andy Burnham she's finishing then I guess he's going to close it. He'll resign, I guess as mayor of, of Manchester, which is one of the key cities in the north of England. His popular nickname in the British press was King of the North. And to some extent that that narrative is, is now going to be solidified. So you have all these things coming together. It was not the best result for reform, but is by no means the worst result. I still think there's a, there's a lot of momentum in the uk, a lot of love and support for Nigel Farage and for his movement. Probably wasn't the best instance to try and demonstrate that. Because to come back to your beginning point, Charles Makerfield is the most traditional Labour heartland imaginable. Their voting for Nigel Farage in the local government elections in May wasn't so much a rejection of the Labour Party, it was a rejection of Keir Starmer that was betraying a lot of what the old red Labour, the working class vote hoped for to see in the Labour Party and which to them Andy Burnham represented. Which is why I was never particularly enthusiastic about Nigel Farage sort of going so big on this particular by election. It seemed pretty clear to me that, that, that, that constituents at least was going to revert to type if, if they had a candidate that they could line up behind. That was my takeaway. Before I go to a quick ad break, I'll just get your assessment on those various points, if I may.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yeah, no, I think, I think that's a, that's a good series of points. I think you are right about reform being the de facto number two, de facto opposition. Now I don't think we can be in any doubt about that. Despite the quite surprising result in the Aberdeen by election where the Conservatives picked up this, their first gain in Scotland for I think it was actually 60 years. And what's more, in a, in a constituency that actually the Conservatives really shafted, really, you know, helped to destroy, by destroying the North Sea oil and gas industry. So that's interesting, but no, de facto, number two, de facto opposition. I think you're right too about the failure of social media to, and also the backing of Elon Musk, you know, to project RESTORE into contention. I mean my view about Restore has always been that they should operate as a pressure group, that they could work on reform to ensure that Nigel Farage doesn't deviate too far from the right, that he doesn't become too much of a centrist, that he doesn't compromise too much, especially on matters like immigration. And I think hopefully that's what Restore will go back to being and that they will do that effectively. And I think also actually your point about fielding a candidate, about whether or not Nigel Farage actually should have done that, is a point that a lot of people will miss. Farage didn't have to field a candidate here. And as you say, it has actually made Andy Burnham look like he might be the Nigel Farage slayer, which Kemi Badenoch isn't and which Keir Starmer isn't. And that may very well propel him through a leadership contest. We know he wants a leadership contest. The MP in Makerfield stood aside specifically so Andy Burnham could. Could become an MP and take a leadership contest. It may, but that may very well propel him now to the office of Prime Minister. And then, you know, we could have a snap election called Prime Ministers or new Prime Ministers always get a popularity bounce. That's a guaranteed. So this could very well be. This could very well lead actually to a new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, and a renewed five years of Labour government. I hope not, but that could happen.
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Host/Interviewer
Charles Cornishdale, you just say there's something which I didn't mention at the beginning and I should have said that for our largely American audience. In terms of context, the reason why this by election. You just said it. The reason why this by election was so important for British politics is because Andy Burnham left a key position in British politics, not in Parliament, but winning one of the UK's great cities. He hasn't been in parliament for nine years. The reason why the incumbent stood down to let Andy Burnham stand in that seat was so that he could then launch a leadership challenge to Keir Starmer. By all accounts, he has the 83, 81 signatures from the Parliamentary Labour Party in order to formally challenge Keir Starmer. This is why this by election is so important. Under the Labour Party rules, you have to be in Parliament to challenge for the. For the leadership. And therefore, seeing as they have the majority to effectively become Prime Minister as well, I think that those series events are almost 100% certain to take place this year. I think it's going to be otake. It'll be very quick, I think, very surgical, very clinical. I'd say within a few months Andy Burnham will be Prime Minister of the uk. That, that would be my expectation and I'm glad that, that you. That you mentioned that that that was the whole point why it was so key that he was standing for election in in Makerfield. Look, we're going to come and discuss your article now in the Spectator. First of all, however, just want to give a quick shout out to the sponsor of the first half of this show, Birch Gold Group. You all know Philip Patrick and his team, some of the best experts on gold and investing in gold and precious metals in the world. They're there with a special offer right now up until 10th of July, and that is on any $10,000 purchase over the next three weeks, they're going to throw in a special limited edition silver 251 ounce silver round which commemorates the Declaration of Independence 250 years ago. That's the deal, that's the offer. Philip Patrick and his team, they're there at the end of the phone to give all the advice you might need. If you are interested in converting an old 401k, perhaps from a previous employer or an IRA or a physical IRA into gold, that's what they do and it's a great hedge against inflation. And I will add right at the present moment, now is a particularly good time to take advantage of the dip in silver and gold and get in because that's surely going to go up. Last 10 years ago, one ounce of gold cost $1,200, just to put this into perspective, and now spot price is around $4,500. Huge increase. And if you are thinking about your future, if you're thinking about hedging your investments in times of turbulence, you might be, well, asking yourself what's its price going to be in 10 years from now? Text Bannon B A N O N to 989-898 to take advantage of the free America 250 Silver Round Special limited edition offer with any qualifying purchase before July 10th. Again, Tex Ban and B A N O N. You know what, before we discuss your article, Charles, in the Spectator, you just said something which I want to about Restore and its role in British politics. And I think it's pretty essential because one of the reasons that the Tory party had become such a blanc mange over decades really since Margaret Thatcher onwards, was because there was never really any political movement in our effectively two party system to the right of the Tory party acting as a gravitational pull holding their feet to the fire. And it's effectively ruined now. It's beyond redeemable purpose. And your argument about Restore, I think is absolutely perfect. I did call it earlier a spite project, a vendetta project of Elon Musk against Nigel Farage. That said, Rupert Loeb himself, some of the things he stands for, and I know this, you know, for the war room that, that follows these things, the war in posse that follows some of these things. They'll be a little bit more engaged to what Rupert Low is saying indeed than what Nigel Farage is saying himself, especially as you singled it out on the immigration issue, which we are going to be talking to in talking about in a few moments. And I just wanted to get that absolutely clear the, the RESTORE movement. I think it's basically a spoiler project of Elon Musk. But let's not discount the fact that it is, it has a very useful function to play holding the holding reform and Nigel Farage to it, to, to the position, the path that it's been tracing and setting up so that it doesn't follow the toy party too closely to the, to the, to the center. If you just wouldn't mind giving me your, your response to that. If you wouldn't mind, please.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yes. No, I mean that's, that's how I've always envisaged RESTORE from the beginning. I mean, look, it's very, very difficult to bootstrap a new party. The British electoral system, the political system makes it very difficult to start new parties. And Nigel Farage has been remarkably successful with reform creating a credible alternative to the Conservative Party, an alternative to the right of the Conservative Party. Because like you say, the Conservative Party really does need to be consigned to the dustbin of history. It's done. Whatever good work it could have done, it's done. And now it's junk. Now it's absolute junk. So bootstrapping a second party, a second right wing party was always going to be hard and it was always going to be fraught with accusations that the purpose was really just to split the right wing vote. And you have to remember there is a significant personal animus between Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage. They fel out royally and Nigel Farage expelled Rupert Lowe from Reform. There was all sorts of, you know, it was, it was quite a nasty affair. Rupert Lowe really does not like Nigel Farage. And a lot of people who now back Restore, including very powerful people like Elon Musk, don't like Nigel Farage. And so there is this unavoidable sense that actually there is a kind of a big element of spite to it. And it's not, it's not really what the country needs. I certainly don't think it's what the country needs. I don't think that the right wing needs to be divided on the basis of personal animus at a time when the demographic situation is so bad and could end up within, you know, a period of a few years being irreversible. And, you know, the country is essentially really lost forever. So my view is always that, look, RESTORE can do a valuable job. They can keep Nigel Farage on the straight and narrow. And in fact, when RESTORE became a party, you saw this kind of salutary effect overnight, where actually there was a very visible hardening of the reform policy on immigration, on deportations in particular. And so it was, I mean, I saw that and I remember writing a post on Twitter and saying, look, this is great. Okay, this is what we need. Yes, we need an insurgent party that can apply pressure in the right places, make sure that Nigel Farage isn't deviating from the core mission and from the will of the British people. But I think that the project has taken on pretenses and kind of greater proportions than it should have. And hopefully my hope is that actually the Makerfield result will now send RESTORE back to the drawing board and that they'll realize, look, okay, we can't be a national, we can't be a national party to compete with Labour and reform and the Conservatives, but we can be a very powerful pressure group acting in the true interests of the British right. And so hopefully that will happen.
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Host/Interviewer
So you're basically saying let's have a bit of free market competition because monolithic monopolies never really respond that well to, to customer desires, right?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yeah, more or less, yeah. I mean, I think, yes, having a, having a monolithic two party system, I mean, it's, it's really kind of, it's destroyed the country. I mean, it really has this sort of sense that there is, there is no alternative than the Conservative Party. You know, if you're right wing, well, obviously you can't vote for labor. So who are you going to vote for? You're going to vote for the Conservatives? You. Even though the Conservatives have increased levels of legal mass immigration to, you know, past the 1 million people a year mark. Right. Or you've just still got to vote for the Conservatives? Well, no, let's have some choice and let's have some real strategy.
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Host/Interviewer
If you can respond to this in 30 seconds from what you're saying, are you a proponent of proportional representation or do you prefer the first past the post system?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
I think proportional representation leads to coalitions too often. First past the post generally leads to stronger government than if you get a good strong government, that's much better.
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Host/Interviewer
But of course it does keep. It does keep sort of pressure movements, as it were, locked out of the political system. Back with Dr. Charles Cornish. Dale in two minutes after this short break to discuss his absolutely superb article in the Spectator about French cultural and social implosion. Don't go away, folks.
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Welcome back folks. For those who've just joined us here today with Dr. Charles Cornish, Dale key analyst on British politics and politics generally known more widely in social media as raw egg nationalist, Dr. Cornishdale. So you have written this article in the Spectator. It's funny how it's a sign of the times because 10 years ago this would have been sort of really edgy themes that you were touching here. And, and today is an indication of how, how the political discourse is moving, how the Overton Window itself is moving. It's, it's. Yeah, that's all right. I can agree with that. You're basically talking about France and the, the demographic changes that it's been witnessing, really from, from North North Africa and subsequent Sub Saharan Africa over recent decades. And you're citing Renault Camus, the, the great French public intellectual behind the Great Replacement theory here. One of the things that you said in your article, which I thought was particularly spot on, certainly for France, I might sort of that also for the uk, but in a different way for the uk, is that you say that France hasn't been able to truly grapple the significance of the Great Replacement because, and I quote, you're saying your attribution to French law and custom, preventing the full understanding of these changes, that's crucially important. I think it's more probably of the, the law prohibition and I'm going to ask you to say a bit more about that in terms of the French Constitution on our side. I think it's probably more custom that. That prevents serious analysts and analysis of these points. But when you write that, because I think it is spot on, could you just talk through with the war imposse exactly what you mean by that. Why do you say French law and custom prevents a full understanding of the demographic changes over there on the other side of the English Channel?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yeah, so this is an interesting thing about the French system. So, I mean, a lot of governments across the Western world and certainly in Europe do their very best to hide immigration statistics. You know, they stop recording the ethnicity of crime perpetrators, for example, so that, you know, people can't point out that there's a vast disparity in terms of violent crime. You know, that immigrants, for example, you know, commit rape or murder, violent theft, etc. At a vastly disproportional rate. In France, it's always been the case that the government hasn't been allowed to take census statistics on the basis of race and ethnicity. So it's built into the French constitution. It's seen as being a thing threat to the notion that France is a republic that is indivisible and the people are indivisible. You are all citizens equally. And if the government were to start sort of treating you differently on the basis of ethnicity or race, even simply by, you know, collecting racial or ethnic statistics, that will be a threat to the integrity of the republic. And that was, you know, that's rooted also, I think, in the French experience of World War II, the fate of France's Jews during World War II. There's a sense, you know, that we don't want to go back to a state where actually the government could actively persecute minorities. And there are data protection laws in France as well that bolster these legal positions. You know, it just is. It's just illegal to take ethnic and racial statistics. And so it's very difficult. Everybody knows that demographic change is happening. I mean, one of the great French authors, Michel Welbeck, has written extensively in his novels about demographic change, submission, in particular, 2015, this novel about an Islamized France. No Frenchman can deny that the demographics of France are changing like the demographics of other countries in Europe, and that they're changing significantly. But what's been difficult has been actually, you know, giving a precise understanding of the change. You know, what percentage of the French population are immigrants or descendants of recent immigrants. Well, the piece that I wrote for the Spectator in particular, focuses on a new study that was carried out by France's premier demographic institute where they did thousands and thousands of interviews over a period of sort of four or five years and were able to quantify for the first time, really, the exact proportion of the population that is immigrants or the recent descendants of immigrants on that
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Host/Interviewer
point, because this is the National Institute of Demographic Studies, the ied, and they did an interview over many years, I think over the last six, seven years, talking to 30, 000 people individually, how were they able to do that? With the constitutional prohibition on data collection by ethnic categories, does that constitutional prohibition apply only to the. To the, I guess the French equivalent of the federal government, but other organizations are allowed to do that. Is that, is that the case there?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yes, basically. So this is a non governmental think tank, as far as I'm aware. And so, yeah, the constitutional prohibitions don't extend beyond the government. So, yes, so they have been able to do this. They've been able to carry out this extensive series of interviews and surveys, 30,000 people over a period of at least half a decade, specifically about ethnicity and race and descent. But the French government wouldn't be able to do that. But because this isn't a government body, then they have been able to do it.
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Host/Interviewer
All right, so on the basis of this report by the ined, it says, and it's pretty comprehensive, it's a pool of, as I was saying, 30,000 different people. They say 34%. This is the headline figure. Right. The Headline takeaway of this report, 34% of France's population, just over one third, are either immigrants or the children or grandchildren of immigrants. Now, at this point, you might remember that a similar debate was taking place a couple of years ago on Twitter that I noticed about the UK context and some statistic was cited with regards to the UK and if I'm not mistaken, it was Said Kamal. Now Lord Kamal, former member of the European Parliament for London, basically responded, so what? And I think it was, I think it was said Kamal. And I don't think from my memory of the, the Twitter exchange that anyone was really able to respond to him in a way that I thought was, was, was sufficient. So I'd like to give you, I'd like to come, I'd like to pose to you the Lord Kamal response there and, and ask you to, to suggest why that is important. So Here we go. 34% of France's population is either immigrants or children or grandchildren of immigrants. And the Saeed Kamal response is, so what, could you break that down for me? Because most people, I have struggled to be able to, to respond to that, and in their struggle to be able to respond to that, they have the doubt that will perhaps, oh, perhaps, you know, it's just a racist reflex. Well, of course, well, I'm not a racist, so I, I'll, I'll shy away from trying to respond to it. And I don't think the objection, I really don't think the reject the objection to this needs to be along racist lines. I'm going to say oppose the Lord Kamal. So what to you and, and see why you tell me that this is actually important.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Well, one thing I would say, first of all is nobody's ever been asked the decision to fundamentally alter the demographics of Western nations was not a consensual one. The people of France weren't ever asked, well, would you like to change the demographics of France this fundamentally? Is this what you want? The people of Britain weren't asked either. When Tony Blair, in 1997, the new Labour government decided that mass immigration was going to be the policy and famously that it was going to be done to rub the right's nose in diversity. That was a revelation that came out. Andrew Nether, former government advisor, adviser to Peter Mandelson, I believe, said that's why mass immigration was done. It was done for political, social reasons to change the country irretrievably. But the fundamental point I think really is just that, look, a country changes when you change the people, okay? I mean, this Bizarre notion that you can just take someone from the other side of the world and plonk them in Europe and so long as they adhere to certain values, so long as they have a piece of paper that says they are French or British or Danish or Norwegian or Spanish, than they are of that nationality is a nonsense. Is a nonsense. And I mean, I think one of the failures of the right actually has been across Europe, has actually been in making the case that actually all of the negative changes that we've seen across Europe, the declining living standards, growing taxes, increasing crime, the changing culture, all of this is tied to mass immigration. Because when you change the people of a nation, you change the nation fundamentally. So I mean that, that's why it matters. Because, you know, if the people of France, the actual French people, want France to remain France, then they need to take, they need to pay attention to demographics. And the same is true for England and for Germany and for every other nation across Europe. You know, if you don't want your nations to change fundamentally, then you have to be interested in demographics.
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Host/Interviewer
Do you think that, that France has reached the point of no return?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
I mean, I'm not a demographer, so I can't tell you what things are going to look like in a generation or five years or 10 years. But I mean, I certainly know that in a country like the uk, then the birth rate situation is pretty dire. And we have already, or we are coming up on the point where actually less than fewer than 50% of all births are going to be white British children. And that obviously must be some kind of demographic tipping point. I mean, you know, you see on Twitter a lot of posts about, you know, you'll see these videos, they're kind of rage bait videos of Paris. And there are migrants everywhere and there are sort of tents and cardboard boxes and rubbish and people say, oh, Paris has fallen, France has fallen. I mean, I've been to Paris a few times recently. It's a lovely city. And actually the demographic change isn't quite as visible as it's often made out to be. But nevertheless, two thirds of the population now are not of an immigrant background. And I mean, those changes, I think are going to accelerate, they are going to get worse unless you have a change in policy, unless the government stops importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants a year. You know, France, the French government has a mass immigration policy. Likely English government does as well.
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Host/Interviewer
Do you believe the statistics that are coming out from the Office of national statistics, the ONS in the UK when it's talking about ethnic minority composition of the UK being what, about 10%?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a good, that's a good question. I mean I'm not particularly inclined to, to trust the government about statistics. No. And I mean I certainly, I get the impression, I actually get the impression with the UK that the government doesn't even know how many people are in the uk. Uk this has been speculated for a long time actually that the population of the UK could be as much as 10 million higher than is officially recorded in the census. Supermarket data famously seem to indicate, you know, so consumption patterns within supermarkets, which actually appear to be a better indicator of how many people are in the country have suggested, I think for the better part of 15, maybe even 20 years that there are millions and millions more people in the country. Country than the government acknowledges. So no, I don't have a great deal of faith in the figures.
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Host/Interviewer
I think it's a straight up lie. I don't know where in the UK if you go on any bus and look out the window around any city center, I have no idea in the UK where the ethnic minority composition is 10%. I doubt it's even 10% on the isle of Man. I think it's an in your face straight up lie. And if people knew exactly what the situation was, I don't think even the police would be able to control the situation. Not even the suppression and imprisoning people for that, for their racy and spicy tweets would be able to control the situation. I, I think it's up in your face like Charles Cornishdale. Stay with me just for 60 seconds. I want to give a shout out now to the sponsor of the second half of the show, my Patriot supplier. These are times of turbulence so if you probably, if you have a couple of dollars tucked away and you want to spend it appropriately, put a few things out in the pantry, in the larder, in the basement. You never know when you might have need of them. You have the, the great deals free shipping that my Patriot Supply offer and you just act now, put a, put aside something now, forget about it and you'll have it if you need it. Possibly get yourself electric generator, possibly get yourself a few sachets that can keep your family provisioned with food if there's supply structure can fail. And right now if you go to Patriot Supply Bannon, you get a hundred dollars off their best selling three month emergency food kit that was originally $241.99. It's now reduced by $100 down to $141.99. That's their special offer. Take advantage of that now. Again, go to my Patriot Supply forward stroke Bannon and take advantage of that. And similarly, right now, as we prepare for Father's Day this weekend, you can get 25% off on site wide at the old family pharmacy that goes that offer through till June 22nd if you use the special promo code BANON25B, a double N O N25. If you're finding yourself traveling, if you've forgotten your medication and it's too time consuming to go back to your family practitioner to get a prescription, you reach out to allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon, tell them the situation. They have licensed doctors online. Fill out the medical form and that doctor will review the information and determine if a prescription is appropriate. And if it is, they will ship those medications directly to wherever you are. Problem resolved. Visit once again allfamilypharmacy.com forward stroke bannon and use promo code bannon25 for that 25 off site wide offer through till June 22nd. Once again, all familypharmacy.com forward stroke banner promo code bannon25. Finishing off now the last two minutes of the show with Dr. Charles Cornish. Dale RAW egg Nationalist Listen, I never got to ask you, why do you call yourself raw egg nationalist?
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a long story. So there was a, I mean, I started out as an anonymous Twitter poster and there was a hashtag going around raw eggnationalism that was about drinking raw eggs. Slonking is the technical term, like a sort of 1950s, 1960s bodybuilder and being a nationalist. It was about the relationship between health and politics. And that really, you know, has been one of the touchstones, actually, of my work over the last six years has been the way in which or the ways in which politics and health and fitness are implicated. And we've seen that come to the fore with the Make America Healthy again movement under RFK Jr.
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Host/Interviewer
Well, on that point, because it's the first, first opportunity to talk about your book the Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. I guess it's all tied together. Tell us just a quick in the fine final 60 seconds of the show gives a quick synthesis of the book and why the war Impossible. If they've engaged with what you've been saying here, should be interested in going out to Skyhorse Publishing and picking up a copy of this book.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale
So the book follows on from a documentary, a Tucker Carlson documentary. I was in in 2022, the End of Men with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. About testosterone decline. Testosterone is declining at a civilizational rate, 1% year on year for decades. We are facing a future in which testosterone will be a very, very scar thing, scarce thing, the master male hormone that makes men men. And that has serious political implications. You know, if men can't be men because they don't have testosterone, what's going to happen to society? What's going to happen to us? And that really is the fundamental issue at the heart of the book. It covers all sorts of stuff. The 2024 election, Trump versus Kamala, but also the future and also some things that you can do to protect yourself against testosterone decline. There's lots of practical advice in there, too.
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Host/Interviewer
So don't be a soy boy. Don't be a beta male. Buy the last men, Liberalism and the Death of masculinity by Dr. Charles Cornishdale. Very grateful for you coming on the show, Charles. Hope to catch up again with you soon, folks. That's all we have time for now. Steve will be back in the chair 10am tomorrow. My third thanks to Rob at Real America's Voice and Victoria Santi Franco, who put this show together. God bless.
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