
WarRoom Battleground EP 659: Lawfare Taking Place In Brazil ...
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Steve Bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
Paulo Figueiredo
I mean, every day you're out there.
Steve Bannon
What they're doing is blowing people off. If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. Because this is just like in Arizona, this is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and.
Paulo Figueiredo
Misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. As we've told you, this is the fight.
Steve Bannon
All this nonsense, all this spin.
Paulo Figueiredo
They can't handle the truth.
Ben Harnwell
War Room battleground.
Paulo Figueiredo
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, Friday the 22nd of November, year of the Lord 2024. Thank you so much for sticking around for the second hour of our week. Second hour today of the afternoon, evening coverage wraps up the work week, of course, you're back tomorrow morning at 10. Man, oh man, what days. These are incredible. High class problems, but problems nonetheless. But one that's really got me worried is down to Brazil at the great Bolsonaro looks like indicted for. They're trying to run the same playbook on Bolsonaro as they ran on Trump. You can tell. And this coincidentally happened right after Lula was down there rubbing up on xi. So at that at the APEC conference, Paul Vigoro joins us. Paulo Vigaro joins us, a journalist. Can you explain to the audience exactly what is going on? Because it's quite murky from the news coverage, sir.
Ben Harnwell
Thanks for having me, Stephen. Yeah, that's some white news quite disturbing in Brazil. What's going on now? It's that Bolsonaro and 36 other people, including myself, were indicted in a probe that has been investigated, supposedly a coup attempt in late 2022 after Bolsonaro lost the election of 2022. The reports were that Bolsonaro was attempting to.
Steve Bannon
When you say lost, when you say.
Paulo Figueiredo
Lost, it was controversial. Hang on, there was controversy with the people. Isn't it still open whether that election was stolen or not, sir? Just like President Trump 2020 election was stolen.
Ben Harnwell
Yeah, that's why you use the quote unquote. People say they lost like the same way they said Donald Trump lost election in the United States in 2020. Right now I think no one actually believes that anymore. No one in their right mind. And same way in Brazil, the person conducting the election, the president of the all powerful Superior Electoral Court was Alexander de Moraes. He hates Bolsonaro. He's the de facto dict dictator of Brazil. He's running the country even more than Lula, but in partnership with Lula, I should say. And so what they said is that they started an investigation saying that Bolsonaro was attempting, thinking about a coup d'etat, obviously. Bolsonaro claims he never even considered a coup d'etat. And he tried constitutional remedies for the situation that we had ongoing in Brazil. The situation being Morais stealing the election. So that's what happened. Bolsonaro thought about a few alternatives that are in the Constitution. He decided that there was nothing he could do. But they say, well, this was an attempt of a coup d'etat. And they also claimed that there was a plan to assassinate Moraize and Lula and his running mate. And that's what they claim right now. So in order to substantiate the claims, they came up with a phony indictment of Bolsonaro and 36 other people. Among these people, people like me, journalists, I was reporting on what was going on back then. There's even a Catholic priest indicted right now, lawyers, several military leaders, the former chief of the Brazilian intelligence agencies indicted as well. I mean, it's a big one. And they did that 10 days after Donald Trump got elected. And as you correctly pointed out, with Xi Jinping in Brazil meeting with Lula at the same time.
Paulo Figueiredo
No, but this. He took orders from the. He took orders from his partner. His partner are the Chinese Communist Party. Xi met and she told him, hey, unless you want to have a problem, because Trump just came back, unless you arrest this, unless you indict him, arrest him, try him, and throw him in prison, Bolsonaro is coming back. Am I incorrect on that, sir?
Ben Harnwell
No, you're absolutely correct. And the fact that the United States Congress has been introducing bills that would create, like canceling the visas of the Brazilian Supreme Court justice. This is clear. The Judiciary Committee in the House is supposedly ready to be voted on the floor. They are very afraid of that. They have been speaking about fears of having their US Visas canceled. Also, there's a bill introduced, introduced by Jim Jordan that would cancel any cooperation between the US Law enforcement and the Brazilian government regarding censorship issues. They're very afraid. So what's going on now is that Donald Trump got elected. They openly say they're afraid, and they rush with this indictment, and they're seeing how is the United States government, basically, the conservatives, and Donald Trump as well, is going to respond to that. If they see that there's no response, they're going to push even harder and probably throw Bolsonaro in jail.
Paulo Figueiredo
Okay, take a Moment. Let's hit rewind on that, because this is the whole reason. And you're one of the indicted folks of the 36. I want to hit that again and just go through methodically what needs to happen here with the kind of America First MAGA nationalist response that our allies in Bolsonaro Circle needed. So take me back through that.
Ben Harnwell
Well, right now, what they need is the United States needs to show that it won't take this well. The United States was always the exporter of freedom and democracy. And in the past four years, during the Biden administration, the US Basically exported censorship. Everything that's going on in Brazil was funded and idealized by the United States Department of State under Joe Biden. So in the past year, we started to see responses from the House of Representatives, Republicans that have been doing hearings about what was going on in Brazil. They also presented bills, introduced bills regarding the situation in Brazil. And that has been very successful in creating pressure. So right now, what Moraes did, what the dictator of Brazil did with Lula and supported the Chinese Communist Party was, well, let's try to not see in Brazil what we just saw in the United States. And they're expecting and trying to see what the response of the United States under Donald Trump will be. So if the Republicans and the conservatives and the MAGA movement don't do anything, don't respond to that, they will probably say, well, it's. The situation is not that bad. The United States is not gonna do anything. So let's put Bolsonaro in prison and get rid of this action.
Paulo Figueiredo
Okay, so we can't. Yeah, we can't have that because Bolsonaro is a hero in the leader in Latin America of this movement. What do you need President Trump to come in with his team at State and sit there and go, we cut off trade. I mean, what type of. Because Lula and these guys play smash mouth. They're partners with the ccp. She's in town when he does this, because Lula wants to flex, wants to show a flex.
Steve Bannon
So what type and level and scale.
Paulo Figueiredo
Of countermeasures need to be done to basically get their attention down there?
Ben Harnwell
So I think the first step would be any sort of statement of Donald Trump himself. And obviously the Republicans in the House and Congress in general can also respond to that with statements and showing that they're paying attention and they understand how serious is the situation in Brazil. That's the first step. Second thing is, there's already a request from several members of the Congress to the Department of State to Cancel the visa of these people involved in human rights violations and due process violations in Brazil. So the Department of State can cancel these visas immediately on day one of the Trump administration, by the discretion of the Secretary of State or the President of the United States. They can do that. The third step is if the situation keeps going in the same direction in Brazil, the President can also use the Magnitsky Law to seize assets of these people. That violates the human rights rights in Brazil. In the United States, like, for example, the Chief justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court is known for having a condo here, a luxury multimillion dollar condo here in Key Biscayne in the Miami area. So that can be seized and other assets as well. And then you'd be increasing and going after the individuals. The worst case scenario, you start applying sanctions to the country. Of course, as a Brazilian, I wouldn't like to see that happen. And I hope it doesn't get to this. But you need to escalate the remedy, and you need to do that before it's too late. Because these remedies only work until they completely consolidate their power. Their power is not completely consolidated in Brazil as it is in Venezuela. For example, diplomatic remedies in Venezuela don't work anymore. And if the United States government and the Maga movement and the national populace in the United States don't act fast, they won't work in Brazil. Very, very soon, once they send Bolsonaro to prison, things will start being very, very different. There are rumors that Donald Trump's going to invite Bolsonaro for the inauguration. The problem is Moraes already took Bolsonaro's passport. So in order to come to the inauguration, he would need authorization by this judge, by the dictator of Brazil, Moraes. And right now, I would say the chances are 90% that Maurice would not let Bolsonaro come to Trump's inauguration, with which would be very serious and very sad.
Paulo Figueiredo
I need to take a second. We need you to take a second and explain it's a little different here in this country, why this chief justice in the courts are really actually worse than Lula and his government. Remember, Lula was tossed out, thrown in prison for corruption, taking bribes. He's also directly in business with the Chinese Communist Party, and they don't even make any bones about that. But walk through this court system. I think what kind of makes it not difficult, kind of shocking to Americans is the power. I mean, this chief justice and the justices around him are like the Nazi judges in Germany in the 1930s.
Steve Bannon
Walk me through that the power he.
Paulo Figueiredo
Has and how the vitriol and hatred of the populist nationalist movement down in Brazil is second to none with this guy.
Ben Harnwell
That would sound weird for Brazilians as well, only five years ago. But what happened was that immediately after Bolsonaro won the election in the United States, they opened this Russiagate fake probe in Brazil. What they did is that they opened immediately, immediately the next year after Bolsonaro got elected, with support from the deep state of the United States, they opened a fake news probe in the Supreme Court to investigate any fake news that would attack democratic institutions. I know that part might sound familiar to United States viewers. So they claim powers to investigate anyone that was conservative, that included journalists, influencers, and ultimately any Bolsonaro's ally in Brazil. And that has been going since 2019, non stop, is a probe that's still ongoing. And this indictment that's happening right now, it's part is connected to that original probe that started in 2019. So the Supreme Court of Brazil supposedly do not. They don't have these powers, but they claim that they do. They based themselves on their internal bylaws of the courts that said, well, if a crime happens within the premises of the court, we can't investigate these crimes within the court. So they said, well, if people are criticizing the Supreme Court on the Internet, that means, well, it's happening within the premises of the court, because the Internet is everywhere. So they came up with this phony excuse to run this probe. And it's very weird because this guy, Moraes, Alexander de Moraes, the guy that was having a beef with Elon Musk, that became looks like a James Bond villain, which is now the most powerful person in Brazil. He is supposedly the victim and at the same time the investigator and the judge. So he has all these role. And this is the guy that conducted the 2022 electoral process in Brazil, the same person. And that's the guy who rehabilitated Lula that was in prison and made him run again and win against Bolsonaro in a very questionable election. So he's the one pulling the strings. He's the one that brought Lula back to power. So Lula is aligned with him, but Lula kind of works for him. It's not the same Lula that we saw in 2003 and on it's a different Lula that is way less powerful than it was. So right now the Supreme Court decides everything in Brazil. And I can tell you something, Steve, I know it sounds weird for Americans, but let me tell you, if you had five liberal socialist justice on the US Supreme Court. I don't doubt that could happen in this country as well.
Paulo Figueiredo
What is going on in Brazil? They're trying. This is when she was down there. What they're trying with in Brazil is exactly what they did here in the United States. And we have to the populist nationalist movement and the Trump second term and the transition. We got to get on this, like immediately. Bolsonar is a good man. He's an honest man. There was no coup. And they're not just trying to take out Bolsonaro. The 36 people around him, 35 guys around him, just like they try to do here in the United States. Paulo, how do people. Our audience wants to follow this, like moment by moment. Where do they go? Your website, social media, all of it. So we can follow the good guys.
Ben Harnwell
Well, my. They can go to my Axe account. It's EOP Figueiredo. It's my. The first letter of my first name and my last name. Yeah, that's the one. They can follow it there. Also on my website, all the news about what's happening in Brazil are in English as well. So people can check it out there, what's going on? So that's the thing. There's no chance.
Paulo Figueiredo
There's no. Yeah, but hang on a second. There's no chance that the Biden regiment will allow these guys to extradite you, will they?
Ben Harnwell
I don't think so. I've been living in this country for over 10 years now, and all my family is American. I'm thinking about if I'm going to become an American as well, but I've been legally living here for a long time. I don't think it's possible to extradite. What I wanted to say, Steve, is just that Brazil is in a crossroad right now and United States needs to think about that. It's the. Brazil itself is 50% of South America. It's 50% of South America GDP. It's 50% of south america territory and 50% of South America population. China realizes that. And once Brazil is an ally, the United States needs to figure out if it's going to let Brazil become a super powerful ally of China in the Southern hemisphere, in the Western hemisphere, in the Southern hemisphere as well, or if it's gonna have a chance of Brazil having free elections again. And I guarantee you, if Bolsonaro runs again under free elections, he will win, same as Donald Trump won. And if that happens, we'll have at the same time, Bolsonaro Milei and obviously Donald Trump and a whole different world. So. But the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, needs to act fast before it's too late.
Paulo Figueiredo
Yeah, we're going to be on this, sir. I'll talk to you after the show this evening or tomorrow. We're on this now. We're on watch. Appreciate you. And tell Bolsonar and the team that we got their background.
Ben Harnwell
Thank you.
Paulo Figueiredo
Okay, folks, they're trying to roll it up everywhere where they have power. And this is, she was there with, with, with Lula. Boom. Happens at the same time. Naomi Wolf, we're gonna go, I'm going to go to Rome momentarily. We've also got new federal state of China. What's happening in China, this bicycle movement. It's amazing. But they, they're going to have some comments about Xi, what I call Liebenstrom for China. Right. The Nazis had it in Eastern Europe and Russia. That's where they went there in the Ukraine. The Chinese think that Australia and Brazil is their Liebenstrom, trust me, they want those resources and they want the Amazon. Naomi Wolf, your hard and tough efforts are starting to pay off. Not only is Robert F. Kennedy going to be hhs, which will be amazing.
Steve Bannon
But to make America healthy again, also.
Paulo Figueiredo
Hopefully at the usda, Nicole Shanahan's working on that. There's a new day dawning. You're fighting a very tough fight in the trenches against the pharmaceutical industry complex. Give us an update, ma'am.
Naomi Wolf
Sure. Well, I mentioned this briefly the last time I spoke with you all on War Room, but now I've got real details and it's so exciting. I mean, for two years, as we've been revealing what's in the Pfizer documents, with the help of the posse, of course, and you people have rightly asked, when will there be accountability? When will there be hearings? When will Congress make a move on this? And I didn't have good answers for them. And now I do. So Tuesday of this past week, a press release came out of Senator Ron Johnson's office and the headline is, Senator Johnson demands HHS, FDA, CDC preserve all records relating to COVID 19 vaccines and goes on to say that he has written and the letter is on Daily Cloud. It's pinned. It's also in the press release he's written to hhs, fda, cdc. It's so satisfying because Mandy Cohen got this letter right to immediately preserve all records referring to or relating to the development, safety and efficacy of the COVID 19 vaccines during the Biden administration. He said these agencies have refused to provide complete and unredacted documents to Senator Johnson's numerous oversight letters, hindering congressional oversight and jeopardizing the public health. In other words, our taxpayer funded agencies, cdc, fda, hhs, didn't give senators and members of Congress transparency or the documents they requested during the Biden administration. And there's a new sheriff in town. Quote, in addition to hiding relevant information from Congress, this is Senator Johnson talking to Mandy Cohen, among others. Your agencies have applied heavy redactions to public documents released under Freedom of Information act requests. Who did that? We did that. That's Ed Berkovich, our lawyer. You guys lawyer. The posse's lawyer. Remember, he FOIAed documents related to the word myocarditis. And you remember I wrote the story here on War Room about six months ago that we got, probably due to an internal whistleblower, a tranche of the most damning, unbelievable documents from this FOIA request, including a cover up at the highest levels, including White House staffers. Dr. Walensky was on the email. Dr. Fauci was on the email. And it resulted, as you Recall, in a 17 page, fully redacted script, totally redacted, that they all used to lie to America's parents and to claim that myocarditis was rare and mild and transient when they knew that that was a lie. So he goes on to say these redactions have made many of these public documents hard to understand and in countless instances impossible to read. The Senator wrote. So he goes on to highlight several examples from the tranche that we FOIAed. And he notes that there are only a small fraction of communications internally on myocarditis and pericarditis that the health agencies continue to conceal. And then he says the heavily redacted documents include a Pfizer report. That's us. On myocarditis and pericarditis. CDC Communications, again. Dr. Walensky is on the email contemplating whether to issue a health alert on myocarditis. This is May of 2021. And Biden White House talking points sent to then CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, then National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, and then National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins, among others. And Senator Johnson requested that HHS, FDA, and CDC produce these documents without redact by December 3, 2024. So right after you guys come back from Thanksgiving is their deadline to unredact these documents that show that they all conspired to hide myocarditis and pericarditis in minors, in healthy young adults. And teenagers from America. And then he goes on to say, and this is my final quote, while your agencies have largely ignored or failed to fully cooperate with my oversight efforts, I can assure you that your obstruct will soon come to an end in the next Congress when I become chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. Any attempt by your agencies to withhold documents will be met with a subpoena. And he links the full text of his letter and there you can see it's going to. Well, your producers have it twos up. Javier Becerra, Secretary of hhs, Robert Califf, Commissioner of the fda, who are the subject of the Pfizer Papers book, which is now climbing bestseller lists all over Amazon, and Dr. Mandy Cohen, director of the CDC. So they need to produce the unredacted versions of those documents showing an April and May 2021 freak out at the highest levels because they'd all been notified that kids were getting, you know, terminally sick, fatal conditions. And now we see kids dying in their sleep, dropping dead on the athletic fields. These people knew. The White House knew and covered it up.
Paulo Figueiredo
What about the. This is amazing and great work and so much more to go. Johnson. This is a new day dawning. Alex Jones. I saw Alex was tweeting and had you some clip. What was that about?
Naomi Wolf
Yeah, I mean, pretty big deal. So we were talking about the fact that we've got a demented president and no one's in charge of the White House, it would appear. And there were missiles. Do you want me to pick up after the break? Oh, no, I'll keep going.
Paulo Figueiredo
No, we gotta bounce. So can you give it to me quickly?
Naomi Wolf
Sure. Basically, people think that we don't have time to get rid of Biden and to sideline VP Harris. But in fact, I looked at Article 25 in the Constitution center and Congress does have the power to convene an oversight disability panel to remove a demented president. And Congress can also pass an amendment to move the inauguration forward. So we could theoretically have President Trump in stopping World War three immediately, not waiting till January.
Paulo Figueiredo
Naomi Wolf, rolling hand grenades.
Steve Bannon
Where did they go?
Paulo Figueiredo
To get all the information about what you're working on with Senator Johnson, quickly.
Naomi Wolf
Go to Amazon, order the Pfizer papers, but you can also go to Daily Clout and read the whole press release. And you can go to Senator Johnson's website as well. And especially if you are in, you know, one of Senator Johnson's constituents and you approve of what he's doing, give himself support if, you know, give your elected officials support for what he's doing. They need resources. They need to know that there's an appetite for justice among the constituents. And good job posse, all you guys.
Steve Bannon
And war room incredible Amy Kelly and.
Paulo Figueiredo
The great team over at Daily Clout and of course the war and posse. Social media, where do they go for you on social media?
Naomi Wolf
DailyCloud IO please support us. This is, you know, very arduous work. We have a lot of people to take care of. And please go to outspoken on substack and also behind the FDA curtain. You can subscribe and support us there as well. Thank you.
Paulo Figueiredo
Thank you ma'am. Thank you for all the work. Short commercial break back we're going to China and Europe next.
Steve Bannon
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Forrest Joe
Steve, good evening to you. Look, it's a bit weird. I don't quite understand how this judicial process in Brazil functions, that the police have prepared this seal dossier which they've given to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court is then going to pass it to its prosecutor general, who's going to decide whether to press charges and go to trial or to drop the charges. You know, the Supreme Court's normally the high authority, isn't it, that decide on legal due process? Well, the role is here. You know, this is the same court, obviously, that caused Bolsonaro problems two years ago himself. And it's the same guy that the head of the Supreme Court that switched off the Starlink satellites because of the Twitter problem. So there's no idea here that the Supreme Court's impartial. And it's clearly, Steve, it's clearly an attempt to use the judiciary to block a movement that is popular with the people because they know on head to head that they don't have the power anymore, that it's slipping beyond their control. It's the same thing that we see in the United States. It's the same thing, Steve, that we're seeing exactly with France that's launched this extremely suspect and politicized case against Marine Le Pen, trying to block her candidacy in the next presidential elections, block her ability to stand for office for five years. That's all they have left, Steve. It's the courts. But what I really want to say now, if I may, just talking about US Domestic politics for one moment, is the maneuver of the senators here in the numbers in saying that they weren't going to support Matt Gates. He wasn't going to have the numbers, and of course, he dropped out. Their shtick is that it's their job, as Grace Chong would say, it's their one job to scrutinize presidential nominees and either reject them or accept them. And they clearly haven't accepted your argument, Steve, that the president was shot in the face and four months later wins a landslide majority in the Electoral College, and then he gets to choose who he wants in the Cabinet. They've not accepted that argument, and they think that's the constitutional role. Steve, my suggestion is this. Fair enough. Fair enough. Collins and Murkowski and McConnell and all the rest of them, fair enough. If they want to say that's their shtick, that's their role. Indeed it is fair enough. But it's not the president's job in the same way to rubber stamp what they want. I remember in the first administration, he backed down. President Trump backed down four times. When it comes to the annual budget negotiations and for the biannual debt ceiling negotiations, he backed down twice on those. He now has the full mandate to face down the gop, his own political party, and say to them, you're going to play that game with me? I'll play it with you. Do not present me a budget over X trillion dollars. Right. Unless it has my apportionment spending for repatriations and for the war, don't present it to me. I'll veto it. Right. And then we'll discuss the other things that you want to spend. Right. I'm telling you that now. This is what he should say. I'm telling you this now. You're. It's not your job to rubber stamp my cabinet nominations. It's not my job to represent your budget. Right. Give me the money I want or this or the or or or I'll reject. I think what they have done is incredibly foolish in this regard because he's the president. He is there are three branches of federal government, right? Judiciary, executive, legislative. He is the only branch of government which exists in he's a whole single person. Right. So, Steve but we're going to have.
Paulo Figueiredo
To see if it, we're going to have to see if it's foolish because they won. I mean, let's face it, even the buzz and energy with Gates gone is different. I don't want to mislead people. I'm not going to mislead people. And it's just different. I mean their Gates that was a McConnell rearguard action that worked. We got to face, we got to figure out how we're going to work around it before I bounce. Real quickly, update on people are incredibly nervous over here that Biden in the Biden regime is driving us into a broader conflict in Europe and Eurasia with this Ukraine situation. Give us an update.
Forrest Joe
Well, early on today, Vladimir Putin has said that he has every right to continue to send these missiles, these intercontinental ballistic missiles. He's denied that they are ICBMs, actually, but he said he's had every right to continue to do that and he will continue to do that. I still think that that is more for his domestic audience than for a real statement of intent because I'm sure he's waiting to do what should have been three years ago is sit down with a serious leader of the United States and discuss peace in Ukraine. So I don't think that, I don't think he's actually going to launch against America or Britain, though today he has said he has every right to do so. I think it's more saber rattling, as I say, for his domestic audience, because now the American people speak very clearly and decisively on on November 5th. They're not playing Mitch McConnell's game. Mitch McConnell, by the way, Let me just insert this quickly. He said he wants to I think the on the the apportionment subcommittee in the Senate. That's defense because he says that defense is the thing that he's most passionate in and he wants to be lobby for extra funding for that. To come back to my early point, right. He, you know, it's the president that has to sign off on this and I think he can send that back to these wayward senators and say, I have the mandate for peace. We'll have peace in Ukraine. We' United States Defense Force that protects the defensive interests of the United States and no more warring around the world. And I think Putin is sensible enough to realize that it actually has a mature man that it can discuss peace with, because on January 20th, the senile, degenerate, intrepid imposter will no longer be in office.
Paulo Figueiredo
Ben, what is your social media? People want to know how they can follow you over the weekend.
Forrest Joe
Steve Getter, as always at Hanwell on Getter. I'll do a quick name shout to your own account at Steve Bannon and at Warham as well. Everything in the world that takes place, you'll find out from those two main sources at Warren. Steve Bannon. I might just give a quick teaser for the Warren Posse, Steve, that we are discussing my presence on another social media platform, one that is in the news concert at the moment. But I will be revealing more news on that. Anon.
Paulo Figueiredo
Ben Harnwell, our international editor from Rome. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
Forrest Joe
Thanks, Steve. God bless.
Paulo Figueiredo
New Federal State of China. I'm the co founder along with the great Miles Guo, New Federal State of China's new secretary, Forrest Joe joins us. A couple of things, Forrest, I want to get your thoughts. She's just down in Brazil with Lula. Next thing you know, they're rubbing up on each other because Lula's apparatchik of the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party has designs on Brazil like they have designs on Australia. And the next thing you know, Bolsonaro is indicted with 35 of his colleagues for a coup that actually never happened.
Steve Bannon
Does the CCP know about Lawfare?
Paulo Figueiredo
Do they know how lawfare works in the west, sir?
F
Well, they know this very well. They use this very well. Miles back in 2017 mentioned about BGY and unreal restricted warfare fare. Right. So what happens in Peru and also in Brazil right now, what clearly is what we mentioned, bgy, that's g. That's the goal. They use financial incentives, you know, to influence all those government individuals and also the organizations. This is what exactly happened. And then they use all this money, build all their one belt, one road project which is actually military and civil fusion project which could be threatened all the western country for their safety and security. So, you know, the CCP does this for a long time and they use this restricted warfare very well. And it is very dangerous for us.
Paulo Figueiredo
Yeah, incredibly dangerous. I mean, you see the Justice Department, this is why we got to take down the administrative state and the deep state.
Steve Bannon
One thing Miles warned us about, I.
Paulo Figueiredo
Mean back in 2019, I think it was, I think it was 2019 in the, in the spring we were doing coverage nonstop on Hong Kong brutal news. The other day, I think it was what, 45 pro democracy peaceful demonstrators sentenced to prison.
Steve Bannon
I thought we had a deal with.
Paulo Figueiredo
I thought the CCP was going to take hands off on Hong Kong and Hong Kong was going to be able to be free, I don't know, for another 40 or 50 years. Is that not the case, sir?
F
No, absolutely not. You know, they claim there is one country two system, but you know, ccp, they never kept their promises. And what happened back in 2020 with the security law when they imposed this loss, there was over 1 million protesters. Hong Kongers protest this law, but after that they suppress all the protesters. Now what you are saying is they're using this so called security law to go after their descendants and also all the political opponents, which is very dangerous. Hong Kong has no longer has their autonomy and they lost all their freedom. But back in 2020, you remember you had that broadcast with Mao. Miles warned the country, if this is happening in Hong Kong, this will go through, you know, all over the world. Everybody will follow that trend. The total area and government will surprise all their citizens using so called law. So this is what we are witnessing. It is, you know, it is weakening call for everyone, especially us in the western country. We have to stop ccp. We have to stop all their unlawful actions. You know, this is, this is crazy what they have done to all those peoples in Hong Kong.
Paulo Figueiredo
Now there's, there's, you know, the Hong Kong thing started with these young people, you know, it's getting together and you know, having these little protests out by the main square there, where the centiff is, where the Hong Kong club is, where the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, right there at the Star Ferry. That's where it started. Something else is starting and you brought this to my attention. I appreciate it. I saw a couple of news reports, but I didn't, I thought something was odd because they're trying to crack down. Tell me about young people riding bicycles in the evening. What is going on? Is this really, is this a protest against the CCP dictatorship, sir?
F
Absolutely. On the surface you might see is, you know, this is over 200,000 students in Zhengzhou or Henan province. You know, this is the, this is the location where Mao's has his super five star hotel. This becomes the event arranging, you know, more than 200,000 students ride the bicycles from Zhengzhou to Kaifeng, which is about 37 miles away from the city. What they are doing is they claim, okay, don't worry the government, we are just going there to have our dinner to grab something to eat. But this is really a movement now. The internal, the CCP defined this as a small Jew force event. So they are cracking down the event. They were blocking the highway, they actually locked down the school campus, they arrest a lot of peoples. The indication from this event actually first you can see the economy is really worsening, is collapsing. The second, actually the young people, the young generation is eager for freedom and law in this country. They are not satisfied with the employment situation, they are not satisfied with the government and there is no law. But the most important thing I would point out is that for this movement actually the new federal state of China played a key role in this. As I just mentioned the origin of this movement, it started from Zhengzhou where Mao says the first hotel. There we have a lot of supporters, NFSC supporters and final fighters actually organizing and coordinating this event. And actually unfortunately some of them have been arrested by now. But let me tell you this, this event won't stop even though the CCP is cracking down heavily. But this event will cross the country and we'll have more events coming in. Not only the student but also the farmers and the veterans and maybe even the government employees. And also pay attention. This event will break out across the whole country, especially in the central and southern and western, western region of the country. So this is really the big event, although it looks peaceful, but it really tells you there is a potential power to overthrow the CCP government.
Paulo Figueiredo
Forrest, where do people go to get more about the new federal state? This bicycle started with a couple of hundred people, then went to a couple thousand. You're right, it's getting massive and the government's already starting to crack down. We assume it's going to spread with the freedom loving Lao Beijing. Where do people go here, particularly in the United States to get all the content you guys are putting up?
F
Yeah, you can find us on Getter. We have two channels there. We have FSC TV and we also have English channel with NFSC speaks so you can find us there.
Paulo Figueiredo
Fantastic. Farrest, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on.
F
Thank you so much sir.
Paulo Figueiredo
If we get Grace and Mo, let's make sure on Getter we push particularly the English language one so everybody can get up to speed. What's happening in Hunan? I would check out. There is something going on with these freedom rides, the bicycles tonight. But follow it closely. Tomorrow we're going to get more. We're going to obviously have so much more transition. Some more announcements coming. We're going to talk about the resistance, how we're going to get around that. How are you going to punch through it. Also President Trump's plans economically for cutting the budget. All of that defense going to drill down to this Bolsonaro situation. He's indicted down in Brazil. They're talking about an indictment. He and 35 others colleagues, they're trying to pull the same thing they pulled here. And Forrest told you about lawfare. The Chinese Communist Party in the deep state really bring the heat. I can tell you firsthand that that's a reality and you gotta fight back. You can't kneel to them. You can't be broken by him. Not gonna let that happen. People are not gonna be broken or Glenn's story. And the team over at Patriot Mobile remember the job they've done in Texas to keep Texas bright MAGA red is unbelievable. That's in their political action committee. The company itself is a mobile carrier that supports the values of the Judeo Christian West. Isn't that extraordinary? These are hardcore Christians that tithe in the company X percent I think up to 10% 5 10% to basic Second Amendment, First Amendment types of things. Your kind of people, good folks with American citizens that have the call in centers. Go check out out today patriot mobile.com so go check it out. About the service kind of layered on top of the wireless service so you get great service wall to wall coverage and it's part of the patriot economies people that don't hate you or your values. Pretty important. Pretty, pretty, pretty important. Birch Gold also our sponsor Philip Patrick will be with us tomorrow birchgold.com More than ever make sure you under precious metals. We're not here to sell you things. We're here to give you access to information and great companies and great people so you can make your own decisions because you're free men and women getting the blessings of liberty. Gotta say this right at book launch the pictorial history of the war room go to Amazon. I think the easiest way to do it. I realize people don't like to go to Amazon. You can go to Skyhorse Press.
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Podcast Summary: WarRoom Battleground EP 659: Lawfare Taking Place In Brazil
Podcast Information:
Stephen K. Bannon opens the episode emphasizing the critical nature of the fight against authoritarianism. He states, “[00:06] This is what you're fighting for,” highlighting the importance of active engagement to prevent oppressors from gaining total control.
Paulo Figueiredo echoes this sentiment, stressing the necessity for the audience to remain vigilant and involved: “[00:29] Misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.”
The core discussion revolves around the recent indictment of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro and 35 others, including journalist Ben Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell explains the situation: “[01:43] Bolsonaro and 36 other people, including myself, were indicted in a probe that has been investigating a supposed coup attempt in late 2022 after Bolsonaro lost the election of 2022.”
He draws parallels to the United States' 2020 election controversies, questioning the legitimacy of Bolsonaro’s electoral loss: “[02:16] ...Isn't it still open whether that election was stolen or not, sir? Just like President Trump’s 2020 election was stolen.”
Ben Harnwell criticizes the Brazilian Supreme Court and its president, Alexander de Moraes, labeling him as the “de facto dictator of Brazil”: “[02:25] ...Alexander de Moraes. He hates Bolsonaro. He's the de facto dictator of Brazil.”
He accuses Moraes of orchestrating the indictment without substantial evidence, suggesting political motivations: “[02:25] ...they came up with a phony indictment of Bolsonaro and 36 other people.”
The discussion shifts to how the United States, particularly under a potential Trump administration, should respond to the situation in Brazil to support Bolsonaro and prevent China’s influence.
Ben Harnwell outlines a multi-step approach:
He emphasizes urgency: “[06:21] ...escalate the remedy before it's too late.”
The conversation delves into the CCP’s strategic maneuvers in Brazil and globally, threatening Western security and sovereignty.
Paulo Figueiredo asks about CCP’s awareness and utilization of Lawfare: “[41:36] Do they know how lawfare works in the west, sir?”
Forrest Joe responds affirmatively, detailing CCP’s tactics: “[41:39] They use financial incentives to influence government individuals and organizations... build their one belt, one road project which is a military and civil fusion project threatening Western security.”
Forrest Joe draws parallels between the Brazilian judiciary’s actions and the US Senate’s handling of presidential nominations, criticizing the lack of support for certain candidates: “[37:31] Collins and Murkowski and McConnell and all the rest of them...”
He urges a stronger stance from the president: “[37:31] ...President Trump backed down four times... Now he has the full mandate to face down the GOP.”
The episode highlights Senator Ron Johnson’s efforts to preserve COVID-19 vaccine records, exposing alleged cover-ups and misinformation.
Naomi Wolf discusses the significance of Senator Johnson’s letter: “[18:52] ...Senator Johnson demands HHS, FDA, CDC preserve all records relating to COVID 19 vaccines...”
She accuses federal agencies of deceit: “[18:52] ...fully redacted scripts... they all used to lie to America's parents.”
The podcast addresses the escalating protests in China, attributing them to CCP oppression and predicting a broader movement for freedom.
Forrest Joe describes the New Federal State of China (NFSC) and its role in organizing protests: “[45:21] ...200,000 students in Zhengzhou... riding bicycles... a movement to overthrow the CCP.”
He warns of the CCP’s continued suppression: “[42:50] ...CCP is cracking down heavily... this event will break out across the whole country...”
Forrest Joe provides insights into the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, emphasizing Vladimir Putin’s rhetoric and the need for diplomatic engagement.
He suggests that Putin’s statements are more for domestic audiences: “[38:08] ...more saber rattling for his domestic audience... waiting to discuss peace.”
Joe advocates for President Trump to leverage his mandate for peace: “[38:08] ...the president has to sign off... discuss peace in Ukraine.”
Paulo Figueiredo wraps up the episode by urging the audience to support conservative movements and businesses that align with their values. He emphasizes the importance of standing against global authoritarianism and internal political opposition.
Figueiredo reinforces the need for immediate action: “[48:16] ...stop CCP... fight back... not gonna let that happen.”
He encourages listeners to engage with sponsors and resources that support their cause, fostering a united front against perceived threats.
Notable Quotes:
Key Takeaways:
Lawfare Against Bolsonaro: The episode discusses the politically motivated indictment of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro and associates, drawing parallels to US political controversies.
Judicial Manipulation: Critique of the Brazilian Supreme Court and Alexander de Moraes for allegedly abusing judicial power to suppress opposition.
US Foreign Policy Recommendations: Advocacy for strong US intervention to support Bolsonaro and counter CCP influence in Brazil through statements, visa cancellations, asset seizures, and sanctions.
CCP’s Global Strategy: Examination of the Chinese Communist Party’s use of Lawfare and financial strategies to exert control and influence internationally.
Domestic Political Parallelism: Comparison between Brazilian judicial actions and US Senate practices, highlighting the need for the US executive branch to assert authority against legislative opposition.
Transparency in COVID-19 Proceedings: Highlighting efforts to obtain unredacted COVID-19 vaccine documents, accusing federal agencies of misinformation and cover-ups.
Rising Protests in China: Coverage of large-scale protests in China organized by the NFSC, indicating widespread dissent against CCP policies.
Conflict in Ukraine: Analysis of Vladimir Putin’s aggressive rhetoric as domestically motivated and a call for diplomatic solutions under new US leadership.
Call to Action: Urging listeners to support conservative initiatives, engage with aligned businesses, and remain vigilant against authoritarian threats both domestically and internationally.
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