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WarRoom Battleground EP 665: Anti Globalists Around The Globe Stand Up To The Elite
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is what you're fighting for. I mean, every day you're out there, what they're doing is blowing people off. If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. Because this is just like in Arizona. This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. As we've told you, this is the fight. All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. War Room battleground. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, welcome for the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening coverage here in the war room. It's Wednesday, the 4th of December, year of the Lord 2024. I want to start off, I don't know if Denver or since we're in Palm beach or Palm beach has it, but President Trump media did a very good job of breaking it down days. They often do. They're a left wing rag. They do a good job of following what's important out there. President Trump went full bannon today on Rupert Murdoch in the Wall Street Journal. And I mean, he said, look, they're obnoxious. They haven't written a good story about him in years. I think he actually calls that the Murdochs, too, just really, really upset. Now what's he upset about? There's a piece, an article and hey, it did come off a press release, I think, out of the, out of the campaign. But the sheriff in Florida, and we had Sheriff Mack on here from the constitutional sheriffs and peace officers the other day talking about, hey, the sheriff might be a good guy, but he's the wrong guy for DEA for a whole host of reasons. Went through the whole thing, chapter and verse and said he would strongly recommend that that be reconsidered. And he had a number of other he thought folks that really more in line with President Trump's agenda than the individual from Florida. Well, the individual said he pulled out. President Trump said, hey, he didn't pull out, I pulled him out. And the Wall Street Journal wrote it up as the former. I think that might have actually been part of the press release. Who knows? But President Trump is being very obvious that he got rid of him because he said what he said about the pastors. My strongest recommendation is somebody ought to inform the president of the complete record of these folks before they press him. We see this in political endorsements all the time. Just that's a fact that I get blown up by the audience. How did this happen? How this happened? You find out later. Not all the information is there on this one. What looks like a disaster could turn out to be quite a benefit. We've asked Sheriff Mack to join us again. Sheriff Mack, by the way, good call the other day, sir. I know the president thinks very highly of you and your organization. Sure. He took that to heart in this decision. Walk me through. Your complaints were not just about Democrats, but also you have some very specific ideas about dea having worked with them. What are the characteristics that the president should be looking for the head of dea?
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Sheriff Mack
Well, first and foremost, thank you for helping us with that because this was a very poor choice and Trump would have lived to regret it later. So we're glad Chronister's out of the way. He should have never been considered. And I'm really glad, though, Steve, I got to tell you, I'm really glad that the president is looking at sheriffs to be part of his administration. If we're going to really clean up Washington, D.C. we got to have, quote, new sheriff in town and someone who's not involved in Washington D.C. politics and the elitism of Washington D.C. and who's a dedicated lawman and has experience in working drugs, especially near the border or at the border and across the border. And so, yes, I really praise President Trump for his leadership here and that he's looking at sheriffs. And one name that I told you already, if it were me, I would totally pick Sheriff Mark Lamb to be there. He's a dedicated lawman. He's honest, he's constitutional, and he's very experienced at the border. He's worked with President Trump before and he would be a great choice. There are others. There's other great sheriffs in Florida. Sheriff Rick Staley would be great. Sheriff Grady Judd from Polk county would be great. Sheriff Dar Leaf L E A F from Michigan would be a butt kicker for this administration. We need somebody who really won't put up DC Corruption and really get moving.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Did I think we just froze up there? You want to go? Do we have to reboot that? Let's go ahead and reboot it. I want to get the sheriff back up because I want to hear. This is very important not just for dea. A drug enforcement administrator, that's the head cop over dea. And remember President Trump, and he's had this conversation with the president of Mexico. President Trump's going to go on offense about the cartels. Just no doubt. Now there's, I don't know. 600,000 criminal aliens in the country that we have not shipped back home. They're essentially infesting the prison and jail system in this country and putting a tremendous burden over it. That's got to be rectified. But the cartels have to be broken. And I've been a big advocate. I was an advocate in the first term that. And I thought we were getting that. I think all of us thought we were getting that in John Kelly. We were not. I think they have to go on offense. You have to go on offense to get these cartels. Sheriff Max with us, just not dea, but other positions, because you. You named a lot of sheriffs there that would be great to be in other parts of the administration, dhs, maybe even assistant over the FBI, because Cash is going to clear a clean house there. What other parts of the government do you think the sheriffs ought to be part of?
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Sheriff Mack
Definitely anything to do with helping Cash get him some deputies and assistants that are sheriffs from all walks of life and all parts of the country. Sheriff Mark Lamb, probably. I don't think anybody could beat him at all. I told you before, even when they picked Cash, that I thought Sheriff Mark Lamb should be a part of it. Part of the Justice Department, part of the FBI, dea. Absolutely. The DEA has had some corruption problems in the past. They're deep state people. And getting a sheriff in there to clean it up is absolutely vital. So, yes, I would love to volunteer my services to President Trump to help him pick someone who he would totally trust and would have his back in all of this going on. And I would recommend. I've already done this with Tom Homan. I recommend that he get some share to help him.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Did we lose him again? Okay, let's go. I don't think the reboot's going to do. Let's try it one more time. Maybe Sheriff knows there's been all this. There's been a. I tell you what, let's wait to the bottom of the hour to try to do it again. I want to make sure this works this time. There's been a lot of controversy in the DEA pick, and not just the DEA pick. That was very controversial. Here's what I love about the posse. Make sure if you see, you know, if you see something, say something. This all came from Twitter and getter and social media, and a firestorm was created about the original pick, and it was just unacceptable. And remember, we're here to back President Trump's picks. We just want to make sure he has full Information. Sometimes I think the Surgeon General is another issue. Other than that, I think people may not be totally happy, but hey, they're ecstatic about most of these and particularly the senior picks. Some of the number twos are coming in also. Now, President Trump saying this, not me, but he said, hey look, this guy did not drop out. He says this is President Trump posted on social media. Let me read it in its entirety. The Wall Street Journal is becoming more and more obnoxious and unreadable. Today's main headline is Trump's DEA Pick pulls out in latest setback. With all that's happening in the world and this is their number one story of the day. Besides, he didn't pull out. I pulled him out because I did not like what he said to my pastors and other supporters. But more importantly, what's my latest setback? I just won the Presidency of the United States. They haven't written a good story, a story about me in years. Somebody over there altered. Look at what they're doing. The only one worse than them is the stupid China centric Forbes magazine. Wow. And I take it back, he did not mention the Murdoch's by name. I'll do it here. I think the last time they had a good article about you, President Trump, if memory serves me correctly, is when you did the tax cuts they loved. They'd be loving him. Some tax cuts. Of course this time I think the tax has got to come with make sure that no, you can't do any stock buybacks. I believe, I think my number is correct. I will double check it, but I think my number is correct. I think between 2008, the financial collapse and essentially around today, the stock buybacks have been, I think over $200 billion of equities been bought back. 200 billion. Either $200 billion or cash. Does the value of the equity? Sometimes there's a slight difference. But let's say a lot of money has gone through. Basically buy back stock from the companies that take equity out off the market. Now as you know, that's always been a big driver of stock prices. Now theoretically people say, well, they do it, Steve, because they do the net present value. They teach us at Harvard when it's, it's more, you know, your better investment is your stock because it's undervalued versus plant and equipment and machine. No, that's from companies. I believe by and large there are some times when you can do it, but by and large it's when the market does not see the growth. The market does not See where you're growing because, number one, you're not putting money back into the business. You're not reinvesting into the business for growth. They can sense that the stock's down. You do that to prop the stock up so that your options packages and your warrant packages or senior management kick in. If $200 billion was bought back, think of the price that management got in, the bonuses management got in warrants and options, all of it. This is how management teams make hundreds of millions of dollars that are unrelated to their salaries. This is kind of the bonus package. So Wall Street Journal, I think the last time they wrote something good about the president when he gave him a tax cut and they wrote a couple of nice things about deregulation. They're not a big name in the deconstruction administrative state because they're a proponent of the deep state. Yep, they are. They are. Wall Street Journal loves them wars, loves them forever wars. Biggest cheerleaders Iraq. Biggest cheerleads in Afghanistan. I know, I know. It's totally unrelated. It's completely unrelated, and I don't want to hear it in the chat. Please don't say in the chat. It's totally unrelated to Raytheon and Lockheed and all these companies advertising in the Wall Street Journal or maybe on Fox. It's totally unrelated. Has no correlation. None. Zero. I want to bring in Michael Walsh. Michael Walsh, one, Andrew's, I think Andrew's first editor, right in the in the politics side, big government back in the back in the original days of Andrew Breitbart. MICHAEL walsh, President Trump went off in the Wall Street Journal, as we do daily here in the war room. But the mainstream media, including the Wall Street Journal and all the networks, including Fox, just got eviscerated in the cause. Karl Rove was on Fox Days for Trump. Trump's can't do this. Trump's saying bad things. Trump's having these rallies. They're saying crazy things. Trump's off message. He's not going to win. Give me your assessment, particularly in the arc of your story with Andrews, of being alternative media, of what did we see on November 5th? What kind of impact did it have on the media and what does it mean going forward.
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Michael Walsh
Against the corporate media that came out in the middle of September. Now, this book had been in the works for a couple of years for me to commission on the essays for all of this. And miraculously, the media destroyed itself in November with the slanted coverage of the president and his campaign and the new administration. So we feel, I feel Very grateful for that. Now, as you mentioned, I was, I had this site called Big Journalism. So my job was specifically to go after Big Journalism. And this we launched in early 2010. So, so that work continues on with this book against the corporate media. But Steve, they have it coming. And it's really kind of, it fills one with gratitude to see what's happened because I personally started with the former real young reporter in Rochester, New York, and then I went on to San Francisco, the examiner, and then I went to Time magazine. So I had 25 years of experience ending at the top level of American corporate journalism. And it's a shame to see what's happened to it. It's become wholly partisan. And really, as you know, Trump broke them, I think, with the publication in 2016 during a campaign by Jim Rutenberg's. He said there can't be two sides to the story anymore. There's only one side. And if you believe that Trump is a danger to the republic and blah, blah, blah, we're only going to cover it from the point of view of his opponent. And all the media takes its cues from the New York Times and that's exactly what they did. And they went down with that ship. They've gone down twice now and let's hope they stay down this time.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, is it, is it more print? Look, we're on the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times non stop. But is a more print or is the biggest miss and whiff and collapse coming in cable news?
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Michael Walsh
Well, it's coming all across the media. My specialty has always been in print, since I've worked in print and now as an author of 20, almost 21 books, pretty soon I'm pretty focused on that. The television side has collapsed. You look at the cable, the cord cutting movement that's been going on for a few years and they foreswore objectivity. They believed they had a higher calling and they were going to answer to their higher calling. Well, you see where it's gotten them. And the other was Elon Musk buying Twitter, which I had been banned from Twitter. I know, I think you probably got kicked off as well. But a lot of us in this movement certainly felt the wrath of liberal Twitter until Musk came back and brought us back again. And that has freed things up. But also the speed of Twitter now is dispositive because no mainstream media can keep up with it. Not even television. And maybe radio. Maybe, maybe radio. But I know as a professional writer, former professional journalist, I turn to Twitter if anything's happening. I know I'm going to at least get a hint of what it is immediately. And I think that's a really big, big thing as we go forward.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, we're still, we're still banned. Two years in the Elon's ownership, we're still banned. War room's up, but we're still personally banned. Although the team did, I think he announced two weeks ago, we're up, but we're never going to go back on Twitter. Michael, where do people get the book? It's fascinating. Andrew would be very proud of everything. He'd be most proud that we've broken, kind of shattered the mainstream media. They don't drive the narrative anymore. It's the ecosystem of websites and social media and these podcasts and streaming tv. Kind of what Real America's Voice has been doing for years, where they go find out more about you, what you're working on, and particularly the book.
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Michael Walsh
Well, right now, the book, I'll hold it up here, but if we can show the COVID that's an illustration by the great Michael Ramirez on the COVID which we commissioned just for this book that's available on Amazon and all over bookstores. As for myself, Steve, I'm really concentrating on books now. I have a big book on military history coming out, a sequel to Last Stands coming out at the end of January, and that's now going to be the second book in a three part series. So military stuff and frankly maleness. I think we're seeing the result of the wave that began eight years ago and is continuing, that men are no longer feeling beaten down and accused of all these things and called toxic, when in fact the world needs toxic masculinity. I've made this point over again. Last Stance, thanks to you, in large part was a best seller. And the new book, A Rage to Conquer, is going to tell you about 10 famous commanders down through history from Achilles to George S. Patton and what characteristics they share and just the positive nature of masculinity and maleness now. So that's the new time remaining to me on this planet and I just turned 75. I've got at least two or three more books coming out on this very topic. And it's great to have lived long enough to see the triumph of what Andrew and I and you coming in just a few years later, we actually changed it and we've broken the power of the media. Nobody believes them anymore and it's just kind of a new day is dawning.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Now. Andrew, when he, when he gave that Thing war. When he said no more drinks while I'm at war, it was amazing. And to think that a decade later it all came to fruition that they, we shattered him. It's just amazing. Michael Walsh, look forward to the books once again. What's your social media handle? The people who go and keep up with all your current activities. I know you're, you're always given a, not just a overview of what's happening in maga, you keep an eye on Irish politics of which we are very disappointed about the vote the other day. But hey, eventually the mix will get it right.
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Michael Walsh
Well, you know, us mix got to stay together, Steve. And one place a dire need of the diaspora has helped is our lovely homeland, where I am right at the moment. They just haven't figured out that Irish America is tremendously powerful, tremendously successful. We've cast off 800 years of slavery and isolation. But unfortunately the folks back home quite, don't, haven't quite got that message yet. So I'm here to help, as they say, and I know you will be too.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Now you think about all the Irish Americans that are part of the MAGA movement, right, Taking on the globalists, taking on the administrative and deep state and the inspiration that the Irish Americans have provided to people like in support of people like Le Pen in France and Nigel Farage in Great Britain just throughout the world, Bolsonaro in Brazil, Mile in Argentina just across the board. And to think that our beloved Ireland just can't shake it off. Man, this is pretty, it's pretty stunning.
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Michael Walsh
Well, the results of the last election were very disappointing, but it's, it's not worth going into at this point. But the electoral system is so complicated. It's got transferring votes and it's called the single transferable vote system. It's rife with possibilities for fraud and confusion and they prize stability here. And as I pointed out, what's the difference between being stable under British rule where you were all collaborationists and now where you're still collaborationists, but with Brussels, this instead of I say bring the Brits back, for crying out loud. But that's just me.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, throw the chains off. Michael Walsh, good to have you on here, sir. Congratulations on shattering of the mainstream media.
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Michael Walsh
Well, we did, Steve, so let's keep it up.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, brother. Everybody go check out the book. Walsh, one of the smartest guys around. These books on military history are just absolutely incredible. Go check it out. Go check out his Twitter feed. You'll see the books. Incredible. He's, he's at the level of Patrick K o Donnell and they're great reads, fantastic writers. Ben Harnwell is going to join me here right after the break. Man, there's a lot going on in Europe. The French are about to overthrow their government. But the deeper reason is why we're going to talk about this, because this is a fight that we're going to have very, very shortly. But I want to thank our sponsors, particularly Birch Gold. If you see what's happening in France, and what's happening in France is that, hey, that's the home of modern monetary theory. This radical idea that was kind of picked up by the capital markets in the City of London and in Wall street and said deficits don't matter, we can just print money, just print money. Federal spending doesn't matter, you know, and if inflation ever kicks up, all we have to do is have a massive tax increase and I'll take care of it. Well, human nature doesn't work that way. You haven't seen massive tax increases anywhere. And the reason is they can't get it passed through the assemblies. They don't know if it makes sense. And you've seen the deterioration of these currencies. What's happening in France right now is they got a 6% deficit to GDP. Normal times the deficit should be, I don't know, flat nothing but 1, 2, 3% maximum. You've had this tremendous massive spending all over and the question is, what's the spending for? You've had these economies that can't get out of their own way and number one, they're paying so much in service costs on that debt, it's crowding out access in the capital markets for money for entrepreneurs, for bank loans for entrepreneurs, for equity capital for entrepreneurs. So people that could actually grow the economy, people that could actually unleash the animal spirits which it takes to grow an economy, don't have access to that capital. And in France, they're having a huge thing with saying, hey, we understand we have to have austerity. They're buying off the concept, hey, it's got to go from 6% to 3%. It's where that cuts come from. The state has said it's going to come out of the back of the working class and middle class people of France. And Le Pen and Front national is saying, no, that can't happen. I want to take out a foreign involvement. First off, I want remits to the eu, done. Money to Africa, North Africa, Middle east, done. We don't need a French empire. They're cutting monies that the globalists live off of. And that would be the fight, folks. It's a preview, just like Liz Truss. And what happened there was a preview. What the Bond vigilantes, of course, she did the old Reagan supply side tax cut without ever walking people through what the implications were. They waited weeks and weeks and weeks and finally people puked it out and she was gone. Both of those should be lessons. But President Trump and Scott Besson. Scott Besson spent time this afternoon up on Capitol Hill walking around, meeting some senators. This is why you need to go to Birchgold now more than ever. Birchgold.com banded the end of the dollar empire. Get smart. Read it, reread it. It's all free. It's textbook size now. I think we have seven or eight installments. I'm working on another one on, wait for it, modern monetary theory and what carnage this caused. People haven't fully grasped it. And guess what? People have to be held accountable for what happened. Oh, yeah, sure they do. Going to happen. That's going to come out before the holidays. Go to birchgold.com Bannon to get it for free. Also, you can talk to Philip Patrick and team. Make sure you do that today. Also, home title lock. Look, 80% of your net worth or 9%. Not if you're Gen Z. Gen Z was revolting about this. You know the Gen Z big article on Business Insider. I think it was in Daily Mail, how Gen Z is becoming more right wing. Why are they becoming more right wing? The Russian serfs, as I've nailed the Russian serfs. I call that generation. The Russian serfs are trying to throw off their shackles. They got more credit card debt than anybody they got. They're all wrapped around the act. So they don't have a home, they don't have access to it. But 80% of your net worth is in it. Go to hometitleoc.com Bannon make sure no bad guys taking your title and monetizer because guess what? You're going to have to pay it off. Okay. Short commercial break we're going to go to the eternal city, Rome itself. Our international editor, Ben Harnwell joins us Here in the 6:00 hour in the war room.
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Ben Harnwell
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
They can't handle the truth.
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Sheriff Mack
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Welcome back. So in France, here's the lesson, folks, when you see the Doge guys see appropriations. Because my question is why are we going to appropriate now in a process that we've got the waste, fraud and abuse that the Doge guys think they got to come out and cut? We got to do it all down front. Let's just do it now and let's see where those cuts are going to come and let's see who they're going to impact because it has to be both defense cuts and discretionary spending social cuts. The deficit is now in the United States above 6% of GDP. That cannot be sustained. It's unsustainable. Right now we're running a three and a half to $2 trillion a year of deficits. Who said this first? Yours truly right here in the war room. And we told you years ago it was not sustainable. And guess What? In late 2024 and early 2025, it's coming home to roost that it ain't sustainable. Of course now with Biden, they're saying, oh, this is horrible. Democrats, they're all deficit hawks now because they believed in the modern monetary theory. Look, it started in France, as so many bad ideas do. Now the French have some good ideas. French fries, French toast. We'll keep it pg.13. So the French have generated lots of good ideas, but also some monumental bad ideas. A lot of bad ideas came out of the French Revolution. Some good ideas, but a lot of bad ideas and still impacts us today. Modern monetary theory was a half baked idea and Macron and the globalist grabbed onto it. They're running over 6% of deficits in their spending as percentage of GDP. You can't sustain it, particularly when you're not the world's prime reserve currency as we are blessed and both burdened. Blessing and a curse at the Same time, bigger blessing than a curse, but still got a little bit of curse in there to do that. So that's what the fight's about. Le Pen and she's, I think, being quite smart politically. She's saying, look, we all kind of agree we got to get back to more austerity. So they're all kind of in consensus somewhat on that that you just can't keep doing this. Where the difference is is whose ox gets gored. And she's taking a hardline populist stance, as War room has taken and will take in the future, that if the ox has got to get gored, it's got to come out of the wealthy, it's got to come out of the billionaire class. And the wealthy can't come out of the middle class, cannot come out of the working class. No, no, no, can't do that, can't do it. It's hard enough to get by today. And they're the drivers of your economy, the little guys. They're the full faith and credit of the United States. So the fight in France is a preamble to the fight that's going to be here. So write that down. Also, Ben, Liz Truss, I mean, Liz Truss, the other day, Chris Hayes, we didn't have time to play at all because there's so much stuff going on, but he says, you know, don't f around. And they were talking about Trump talking about tariffs, right, Talking about tariffs and equating it back to what happened to Liz Truss. We were the show and they had Larry Kudlow on, their great friend of the president, great economic advisor. When Lit Truss made her announcement, Larry came on and took the pom poms out and said, this is great, this is fantastic. Worm took the exact opposite because he said, hey, you can't go and you can't fantasize. You can't have a fetish for Reaganomics in the 21st century. I'm a big believer in supply side, but you gotta think it through. You just can't have these big supply side cuts and all this where you don't put a set of math forward where you think this is gonna play out. And what happened? She had the finance minister who was not the brightest, and they kept saying, well, technically we don't have to put out really math on the budget, you know, our proposal for six weeks. And I kept banging on the table and said, baby, you ain't got six weeks. You got a bond market that's puking this up and you're going to also, you're going to start unraveling the pension funds over there. And what you're going to find in these pension funds when the tide goes out, you're going to see that they've done a lot of funky stuff in these instruments to get the return that they need to cover the actual tables and they will do anything, including toss you out. And that's exactly what happened. Now, that's not going to happen here. This is the reason Scott Bess and people run around we need a disruptor. We need to disrupt what we need of President Trump's to implement his policies. You need in that regard a safe pair of hands. You need somebody that understands the bond market and could give comfort to the bond market because they're a straight shooter and they can think this through with President Trump. Because we're about to hit a firestorm when it comes to this and you're seeing us play it in a small way in France now. Ben, everything that's going on in France pales in comparison to the shooting part of the Third World War. And this story more than any is getting virtually no coverage in the United States. And people say, well, Steve, it's on the front page. Hey, just because on the front pages to be a story, you got to be up in people's grill talking about it, how it's going to impact the American people. Ben, for the importance of this and when I say importance, the shooting stage of the third World War is underway. Underway. And we're talking about, you know, for deployment, tactical nuclear weapons. And people come out and deny it. You're talking about. We're signing off. We played this morning, Kellogg saying, well, Mike Waltz has agreed with Jake Sullivan about shooting the long range missiles and the mid range missiles into mother Russia on Russian territory. You've seen Biden's coming out saying, hey, they need 500,000 18 year old combat troops immediately. And now you got Zelensky all over the place. Zelenskyy. I need NATO coverage. I'm prepared to do this. Please help us make sense of what's happening in the Ukraine, sir.
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General Kellogg
Right, let's start off with General, Lieutenant General Kellogg. Right. Has he gone AWOL or is he running on a separate set of instructions? I'm not sure. But I don't think the situation would be harmed, Steve, if President Trump came out and said something along these lines. I'm not going to tell anyone who's currently serving in the military to disobey an order from an illegitimate commander in chief. But I will say this, and I'll say this not only to this serving members in the military today, but to civilians as well. If anybody obeys any order that puts American lives at risk, any anyone escalates the situation in Ukraine that puts American lives at risk, I will see that they are either court martialed if they're in the military or Prosecuted under the DOJ when I take office on January 20th. Something along those lines, Steve, don't tell anyone not to obey a legitimate order, but let people know that in these two months left, not if they escalate this situation deliberately in order to hamstring President Trump's ability to negotiate. There will be consequences for those. You know, it was Eichmann in Israel when he was taken back. Obeying orders is not an excuse anymore. So no message to disobey orders. But if you do that, if you obey an order that is escalatory and puts Americans at risk, there will be consequences. Post January 20th, I actually think President Trump's silence in this situation over the past month is creating a certain instability in which uncertainty in which nefarious actors are trying to maximize their position. Steve, the developments today in Ukraine, Andriy Yermak, the Zelensky's chief of staff, many people consider him to be the actual puppet master on the Ukrainian side of these affairs, is currently in America talking to today. Right. In fact, talking to Trump's team. Why is he there? What's the background to this? Well, it's the whole issue that both sides are starting to push out negotiating positions specifically around NATO membership and what territories that might be extended to. If you want, I can go into the three main proposals that have been submitted informally to President Trump. But the point I'd like to make to the posse now, the point that Steve, I'd like to make to the posse is this NATO membership for Ukraine. Put aside the fact that this is obviously going to be escalatory from the Russian point of view, to some extent, it is a shiny thing, a shiny toy that can distract. Article 5 does not oblige any member states to do any action if another NATO member is invaded, other than just to take what action it deems is necessary. And that action is determined on a sovereign based basis by each nation concerned. America, Ukraine could come into NATO and America can put out. And if Russia extends, tries to nudge into the border, America can put out. Trump can put out a press release saying, I'm monitoring the situation and I'll be kept informed. And he can say legitimately, that is the action that I deem to be sufficient at this moment in time and fulfill his Article 5 obligations. What I am more concerned with right from doing my best to support an America first position here as a Brit living in Italy and occupied Europe is to make sure that America is not held on the line with security guarantees or promises of arms to Ukraine and indefinite supply of arms. Because in fact, if we allow ourselves, I mean NATO membership is extremely important. But you could end up America taxpayers, you could be end up footing a far larger bill if you're, if on the Western side of the negotiation, you are, you are allowed or obliged by the negotiators operating in your name to make you fulfill the security guarantees. The Lithuanian foreign minister came out and said this explicitly that Ukraine, that Ukraine needs to come into NATO said this yesterday. Ukraine needs to come in and NATO members need to provide its defense. I think that's absolutely outrageous. It's absolutely outrageous. My response, I close on this point and give way back to you, Steve. My point on this, if I were President Trump, I would say, folks, do what you want. Let NATO in, let Ukraine into NATO or don't, we're out. You pay for it. You make, you make your own evaluations of what the risks are because it is, you know, this is the point, I think that this conversation needs to be had. What is NATO's, what is the benefit to America, to America's security, to American taxpayers in continuing to be a member of an alliance that was formed as a boardwalk against Soviet aggressions, Soviet empire collapse in 89 or 90. It is asymmetric in terms of risk and it is asymmetric in terms of cost. Steve, I will give way to you on this point. Can you imagine how calamitous the situation for the United States must be if you are facing an existential threat? Someone has invaded you, Canada has invaded you from the north. You are facing an existential threat. Folks, we're done for. What could happen? You look up on the horizon, you see the dust being kicked up and you say, thank God, it's the cavalry. The Latvians are coming to save us. It's absurd. Steve. There is no situation, hypothetical or otherwise, when America's existential interests are dependent will revolve around these easterly NATO member states coming to your assistance. All you are ever going to do is come to their assistance. There's zero statistical chance that another nation will ever invade America. Right. That's not the case for these smaller countries over on the eastern frontier of NATO. They have, it's a non zero risk and it's better for them that they pull their resources together and America and American taxpayers let them do so. But the sounding is coming up from Mark Reuter, the new secretary General, basically putting your name down on the line. The soundings coming out of Lithuania. It is in their interest to play up NATO and to play up you funding them. It is not in your interests that this charade continues.
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Stephen K. Bannon
How dangerous before he lets you bounce, how dangerous is the situation right now to break into a broader European war and then really engulf the United States of America? How dangerous is this getting? We've covered this now for three years. We've been very consistent about this debacle. But it seems to me something fundamental has changed since President Trump won. An escalation going up the escalatory ladder of which can be very difficult to climb down. But you probably get a better view of it from Rome.
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General Kellogg
What's your sense, it's a non zero risk, Steve, of there being a nuclear third world war. I think the chances come down massively from about nine months ago when America first announced it was giving Ukraine the permission to use long range missiles on Russian territory. And then it walked that back pretty quickly. But there was a weekend, I remember this, I know going to church, I was quite, you know, there was a period when I actually thought this, this is how it will kick off. And then as I say, Biden walked it back. It's a non zero chance, Steve. But the escalatory fact on this are exclusively on our side. They're not on Russia's side.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Unbelievable. Very dangerous. President Trump can't get there too quickly. Ben Harnwell, you've always got, and I'm quite jealous of the response you get for your post, but where do people go to get your social media folks?
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General Kellogg
If you want to make Steve Bannon even more jealous, go to Arnwell on Getter. Find any of my most recent posts at the top of my feed. They're all fantastic, they're all excellent. Find them and forward them, share them and tag Teve Bannon in that so he can see you doing it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Harnwell, Love you, brother. Thank you so much for the assessment. We'll talk about this upheaval in France. I think you'll see with the finances like the labor government in England, I think the due bill is coming sooner than people think. But thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
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General Kellogg
Thanks, Steve. God bless.
- [46:27]
Stephen K. Bannon
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Ask the folks in South Korea how that's working out for them. Not too well, but our elites knew that. That's why we gotta break this down and get back to entrepreneurial finance so that entrepreneurs and look, you'd be populist and entrepreneur at the same time. The little gu, right now, they have a side gig. Hey, maybe they make it their own gig. Understand? You gotta put food on the table. Gotta have a job. Gotta have a job. Pays those bills, you know. But it's, hey, you don't want to be work your fingers to the bone. What do you get? Bony fingers. Remember that song, old country song from decades and decades ago? No, you want to have something to show for it. That's why you gotta have entrepreneurial finance. Birchgold.com, proud to be a sponsor into the dollar empire. Get up to speed. I've got another installment coming before the holidays. This is going to be on modern monetary theory. 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General Kellogg
Folks.
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Jim Rickards
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