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Unnamed Analyst
The things to look at here as well is that Cash Patel does have these relationships with a lot of these whistleblowers, as they describe themselves, these conservatives who have a lot of complaints about the FBI now they call themselves the Suspendables. I've been talking with a lot of folks about what their views on Cash Patel is. He has pretty close relationships with them. In fact, he actually supported a number of them financially through his group, the Cash Foundation. When a lot of them were put out of the bureau and, you know, a couple of them, the inspector general discovered that, in fact, the Justice Department had sort of been using the suspension of their clearances process as a way to sort of push them out of the Bureau. So there was some legitimacy to some of the claims that they were making about the way that the internal process had been used. But, you know, what you essentially have now is a lot of people who want a lot of people in Cash Patel circle who really do want to see a lot of a huge change to the Bureau, a huge change to the FBI. And that is really, as David was high highlighting, there is really worrying a lot of folks within the bureau and what the future is going to hold for them.
Steve Bannon
Chris Andrew Weissman, let's go back to today and the decision. What's broken is that nobody has confidence that a fulfilled background check will happen by the FBI, which means a full investigation. And no one has any confidence that the Senate Republicans will digest that information if he's viewed as a threat or unfit act on it. That's what's broken. And that's where we don't spend quite enough time pressing and exposing the failures.
Unnamed Commentator
You bring palpitations to my heart. Because that's exactly where I wanted to go with all of this. Because when you take it in the fullest context of what Director Wray said today in his stepping down, and I solidly applaud the idea and his continual emphasis and use of the rule of law and principle and standing on the principle. Those are words. The problem we have had that nobody in Washington actually wants to do what the words require you to do. Stand on principle. That means standing firm in the face of the onslaught from MAGA and Trump. That means flipping them the bird for once and telling them to kiss your ass. That means come at me, baby. You ready? Let's do this. I'm the director of the FBI, right? And you want to dance? Let's dance. I'm here. You want me gone, fire me. Because that's the principled position. The unprincipled position is what Trump is doing and the way he's doing it. And it just, I don't know what the hell is wrong with folks in this town that they just, all the bravado, all the sanctimony, all the crap that they spew out in private moments, they cannot find a microphone and stand in front of it and tell Donald Trump to take a leap. I don't care if you are coming as the next president, you are not going to do this. I have a term. I'm in office for 10 years. I got three years left. You want me boo, come at me, right? That's, that's what America also needs, not this sort of placating. Oh, you know, the economy is tough and, and you know, gas is more expensive and inflation, yes, those things.
Steve Bannon
You see the meltdown all over. It is Wednesday, the 11th of December, year of the Lord 2024. Thank you for joining us for the second hour of the late afternoon, early evening edition. And of course our fourth hour of the day, Mike Lindell joins us. Mike, of all day, so glad and honored to have you on here today, particularly the day that Chris Wright, some folks, you know, most of us know, but some folks don't know that the FBI went out of their way to harass Mike Lindell. And this is what they do, right? Kind of what they like Tina Peters, they go to, she's having a cup of coffee at, I don't know, Starbucks somewhere and these investigators come in and they handcuff her and hassle her in front of people and they're trying to humiliate you. They shackled Peter Navarro, a 70 year old man who had already been assistant to the president. Now assistant to the president, I believe is the same rank as a major general in the Army. They came and shackled Peter Navarro like a dog in Reagan National Airport and then took him down off thing on the tarmac and even tried to rough him up a little bit, right? Because they're tough guys. They're tough guys. By the way, everybody who's on that Peter Navarro team, you're going to get looked at, okay? The Mike Lindell, Mike Lindell, would they try to humiliate you? Did they not, sir, to come and get your phone instead of Mike Lindell's got lawyers. Hell, Mike Lindell has got $25 million legal fees. Mike Lindell has got lawyers all over the place. Could they not call Mike Lindell's lawyers and say, hey, we'd like Mike Lindell to come in and turn in his phones. We like they do this a lot. And we've got a warrant or we got this, the paperwork, and do it. No, what they did is they hunted Mike Lindell down. They trailed him down. And a public humiliation at, I don't know, Arby's or Wendy's. Going to get some lunch.
Mike Lindell
A Hardee's.
Steve Bannon
A Hardee's. You know, Mike Lindell, he of ultra processed food. And they try to humiliate you. This is a scare tactic. Here's the thing, guys. McCabe is crying and whining on national TV. He's going to leave the country. Ray, just quit. You guys are nothing but a bunch of wimpy, gutless coward. You see Mike Lindell leave, You see Steve Bannon leave. You see Peter Navarro leave. You see Donald Trump leave.
Unnamed Guest
No.
Steve Bannon
We spit right in your face because we detest you. And we won. And now you're going to pay the piper. This is outrageous. You are gutless cowards, Mike Lindell.
Unnamed Guest
I want to comment to that. So everybody, let me tell you other things they did in the state of Colorado. They ripped Sharona Bishop, came in her house, ripped her daughter down the steps. They bashed the door in. They knocked on the door and then bashed it in. As they're all having coffee in the morning for breakfast. Nobody got arrested. They humiliated a gal. Pulled another gal, 15 year old out in the yard in their underwear. Now, when I pulled into a Hardee's in the. I believe it was September of 22. I pulled into this hard. He's coming back from a hunting trip. They didn't just, you know, I was going to be there. They tracked me all the way down to Iowa and back up into this Hardee's. We pull in there, my buddy sitting next to me and I said, a car pulls in front of me crossways, one up beside me and one behind me. Now I get out of the car and I go, who are you? I told my buddy, you just stay where you are. This is bad. I get a who are you and what do you want? We're the FBI. I said, I don't believe you. Show me a badge. Some guy showed me a badge. Another one over here. How about you? You got a badge? He goes, yeah. I said, okay, maybe bad guys probably wouldn't carry two badges. But let me tell you, if they'd have done this at night, Steve, I would have bashed through them and took off to find a real cop. No way to identify him, whatever. Now they pull me over and they start in. They go, yeah, we're not going to arrest you, Mike, we're not going to arrest you. And I go, well, I haven't done anything wrong, but what are you doing? They're asking me these questions. Well, here, two of them were for Colorado and two of them were from Minnesota. Here. And I finally put two together. I go, I go, you guys should be ashamed of yourself. I wonder what are you out doing? I said, you cut, you're taking my. They didn't even took my phone yet. I said, what you did in Colorado, ripping this gal down the steps. And I said, and they, and then you knock on her, you bash their door. And the guy goes, she didn't open her door fast enough. I said, it was 38 seconds from what I hear. What do we all have to have a little egg timers for the FBI? Quick, open the door. It's the FBI. Run before they bash the door in. Anyway, I start chewing these guys out. Now they tried to do it for public harassment. All the people were gathered in the parking lot. Then it gets down to. They go, we're not going to arrest you. And I go, well, I want to be arrested. I wanted to. I said, I want to go to. I want to go to the January 6 thing that they wouldn't invite me to even though I wasn't there. Mike, we're not those FBI guys. So Steve, what happens then? They go, well, we want to take your phone. I go, you're not getting my phone. I'm going to call my lawyer. No, you can't call your lawyer. I said, let me get this straight. I can't call my lawyer, but you're going to take my phone, but you won't arrest me? I said, that ain't happening. So we went back and forth. Finally get a hold of the lawyer. He says, go ahead, give him the phone. I'm like this. So I give him the phone. They told me not to tell anybody. I got on my show and told the world. But Steve, I stood in that parking lot, this is what I'm getting at. And I started giving them, I started witness to them witnessing to them talking about my book. The one guy had read my book. I said, you know what? I said what you guys are doing, this is so morally wrong. And the one guy goes, well, Mike, it's our job. I go, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're going against your attacking citizens of our country. What has happened to the FBI? You grew up, you guys were heroes. Now what are you doing? Because somebody up above, up the ladder told you to do this, and you think it's right, what you're doing is wrong. I'll never forget that. And all of them, you could see, they felt bad. After an hour of me giving them speeches and talking to them, they said, mike, we gotta go. And I go, you guys are the one that stopped me. I said. Then one guy goes, I've been doing this 30 years and never seen anything like it. Where, you know, you're preaching to us and telling us what we've done wrong. And you're right, Steve. We didn't back down. That guy. That guy. Hopefully, this is the biggest. You guys, we're in the biggest change in American history from the FBI, from everything. This is. I've said it before, the 2020 election, actually the most important election in history, because what it does the last four years, it exposed more and more corruption and more and more things. And the Onion would be open not just on the election platforms, but all across our country. And it's. I'll tell you, I think back to them, by the way, maybe I'll get my phone back. People, I say, did you get your phone? No. I sued. I went all the way to the Supreme Court for that, and the Supreme Court wouldn't even look at it. And it came back here to Minnesota, and they asked the government, the 8th Circuit here, the three judges said. They asked FBI. They go, well, why do you need his phone? Why couldn't you just take a copy? And they gave some excuse, and the guy goes, well, what about. What about attorney client privilege? Well, we're looking through it, and we're going to, you know, we'll decide what's what. Well, that's like a jury. Pretend you didn't hear that jury, Steve. It's just. It was disgusting. And what we're seeing. I love you. Showed that meltdown there right before the msnbc. I mean, people are so. The FBI has become something. And these guys that I talked to, you guys, they're good people. I really believe those guys are there, but they were following orders, and they didn't have. They were like sheep following orders.
Steve Bannon
Okay, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You're pitching Herman Goering's defense in Nuremberg. Doesn't work. They're not good guys. They. They're. They're. They're rational human beings, and these orders were illegal, and they followed them anyway. And harassed people in Danbury Prison. You've got the holiest people I ever met. These people have no money. They're basically paupers because they go around. They don't even work jobs. They basically pray rosaries in front of abortion centers, okay? They have no money. The humblest, nicest people, like, almost like monks. The stories of the FBI going over jack boots and trying to intimidate them. You're all tough guys when you walk in, you're all jack booted up. You got all your weapons. You come in a group of 20. You ain't so tough when you're singled out. You see McCabe crying on TV, Comey whining on TV, Brennan worried on TV, Weissman, that little Valley girl voice on TV. And Chris Wray quitting. You're quitters and you're losers, okay? If you believed in it, if you believed in the FBI, if you believed in your mission, if you believe you had done nothing wrong, if you believed in it, you would have served out the three years you didn't. Because you know you're culpable in all of this. And you're going to be investigated, you're going to be found investigated. And then, I don't know, maybe they adjudicated, maybe they take it to something before your jury appears. I don't know. That's all in the future. It's not my shtick anyway, right? There'll be somebody else's. But I got to tell you, we were a small part of running you out. That's right. And dogging you out of here. And we get part of a scalp, Mike Lindell and I.
Unnamed Guest
And when I say the four that were with me in Mankato, Minnesota, I said they seemed. And there was one gal, I think it was five of them. They were. I believe they were nice people, but they were cowards. They were cowards. They were doing stuff that was wrong and they knew it. And because they had very bad people up above leading the FBI and all the corruption and stuff that went with it. So you're right, they're not good. I believe there was.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang it. You drive me. You drive me crazy. You drive me crazy. No, no, because. No, because, Lindell, you're a nice guy. Everybody knows you're a super nice man. And President Trump is like this, too, and others that are kind hearted. But here's the thing. The reason that they allowed they obeyed the orders was very simple. And yes, there were bad people above them that gave the orders, but the reason they obeyed the orders, ladies and gentlemen, is quite simple. They never thought we'd come back. They thought we were done. And they thought by their executing it, hey, it's a bad order. These guys may not be bad guys. But I'm never going to see them again. You know, they crossed, they crossed the system and I'm just a grundoon in the system. And so the system says they have to go and I'll never see them again. So I won't be any penalty. That is what is, that is the core of the problem.
Mike Lindell
We came back.
Steve Bannon
You know why we came back. We didn't flinch, we didn't cry, we didn't whimper, we didn't run. We didn't leave the country. We stood and we fought and we were victorious. Elections have consequences and victories have consequences. And you're going to suffer the consequences of our victory. And I don't care if Rachel Maddow doesn't like it.
Mike Lindell
I don't care if Nicole Wallace doesn't.
Steve Bannon
Like it or the editors of the New York Times. And particularly what. I really don't care if Rupert Murdoch and his corrupt kids at the Wall Street Journal and Fox News don't love it. Okay? We could care less what you like or what you love. This was one of the greatest smear. This is one of the greatest black marks in the history of our republic. They tried to destroy people, destroy them because they stood up for a stolen.
Mike Lindell
Election which they knew was stolen.
Steve Bannon
And quite frankly, you see in Biden, he's not even president. He outs himself every day. He knows he's illegitimate.
Mike Lindell
He can't even show himself around Trump. He's hiding up in Delaware or wimping around.
Steve Bannon
They're all sitting there going, we really wish Biden would act like president. Trump is now the president.
Mike Lindell
President because he always was the president.
Steve Bannon
Because he won in 2020 and every.
Mike Lindell
Day and every action.
Steve Bannon
And your reaction to that, like Ray quitting, like Brennan whimpering like weisman crying like McCabe wanting to leave the country reinforces that. Mike Lindell.
Unnamed Guest
No, you're exactly right, Stephen. And they all knew it. And I've said it before, you guys, I wanted to give everybody hope in this country. I've always called it the biggest cover up of the biggest crime in the history of the world, the 2020 election. But one thing we've done is we broke through the biggest cover up because our voices never quit. You never quit War and posse. We never quit putting our Steve's show here. Never quit putting out our voice, putting it out there, putting out there. Now you're seeing the victories of that. Not just Donald Trump winning the election, but all the stuff that's been exposed because we never ever stopped. We kept talking and talking and Talking it and that and all the stuff that's been revealed. You're just talking about one FBI here. There's so many things. I got so many things that have been revealed out there. I can't keep track of them all and. But we needed all that for where we're going now. By the way, everyone says, well, Mike, what are you doing now? We're out there, we're getting. We're going to get the most secure elections by 2022 you ever seen in history. We're out working every single day all over the country, gathering what we gathered since 2020 and all the way up to this election to be able to say, hey, we want to be the gold star of elections in the world. We want to have the best elections you could ever have. Because we never want to go through what happened, where we're. Where our country is going with artificial intelligence and all this other stuff. Who do you want leading your country? People that we select or that we elected for the people or people that were selected by evil?
Steve Bannon
Mike, so. So look good on you. Chris Wray's gone. Cash Patel is going to be in there. They're in full meltdown. And Mike Lindell, I mean, all the money he spent on lawyers, they try to debank him. They try to get all his credit lines going all big box. You have. No. It's like President Trump. There's so much more that happened to President Trump, and this is why he's a hero. He didn't tell you all about it. So much more happened to Trump than you'll ever know. Mike Lindell, I've seen this guy every day. They, in every different aspect, maybe one notch down from Trump, they try to destroy him, his business, his employees, all of it.
Mike Lindell
All of it.
Steve Bannon
Here's a guy that used to be a drug addict and a degenerate gambler and turned himself around and accepted Jesus Christ and went from selling pillows out of the back of a car at a flea market to build one of the great companies in this country. You know how they rewarded him? You know what they thought, these scumbags? We're going to destroy him. We're going to get rid of his employees. We're going to shut the whole thing down. Well, guess what? It didn't work. His company is back better than ever. But what he suffered in the interim, and this is why I'm so proud of you. Mike Lindell didn't come on here whimpering and crying about that. You know what he did? He hunkered down. He hunkered down. And I have no pity and no empathy for these people that did this. And guess what? In the fullness of time, in the fullness of time, you will be brought to full accountability. Mike Lindell, I need a pillow right now. Can you sell it to me?
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Steve Bannon
Mike. Love you, brother. Code war room. War room. Promo code worm. Promo code worm. Brother. Thank you so much. We'll see you to see tomorrow morning. Yeah, thanks for Mike Lindell. Look, the way the reason we all made it through here, the reason we all made it through here, President Trump, Mike Lindell, Peter Navarro, all of us, me, was this audience, your prayers, your thoughts. And you're having our back. And that's what won in. That's what won in on the 5th of November and they still can't get, they still can't grasp it. They can't grasp it and they don't know the fundamental changes are coming. Am I correct? The President, did I read this correctly? President Trump. This is President Trump playing four dimension chess. The President has announced that President Trump has invited President Xi to the inauguration. It is that brother's playing. That's breaking news now. My head's blown up. He's playing maybe, maybe now. I wasn't going to go. I was going to do from, I was going to do the war room, we were going to do the morning show leading up to and everything like that. But heck, maybe if they sit me next to Xi, of course she would probably have me handcuffed. I think I'm, I think I'm, you know, I'm a wanted person. I'm a person of interest in China. This is President Trump playing five dimension chess, is it not?
Unnamed Contributor
It is. And also breaking news. President Trump told the CEO of Lockheed Martin he will be canceling the 1 trillion dollar F35 contract when he takes office as well.
Steve Bannon
Lord, oh my Lord. That's a bombshell. This gets to the pivot. This gets to the pivot, the F35 program, which is the most, the most expensive weapons platform we've ever had, but highly effective in the tradition of jets and fighters. I think this leads into the future of what drones are going to be.
Unnamed Contributor
It does. And back to what you were saying. This is him playing 5D chess. It's just not one avenue, is it?
Steve Bannon
Five dimension chess. That's what I meant to five dimension chess. Right now I'm playing four dimension, he's playing five.
Unnamed Contributor
But it's not just one avenue with President Trump. He's going in all different avenues and he's thinking, you know, outside of the box. And that's what we expect from the President of the United States. Not someone that has to be spoon fed his smashed bananas and peas and carrots in the basement, but that's what we expect. And he's thinking, you know, five steps ahead of everyone else.
Steve Bannon
Unbelievable. Other big news is going to be breaking here, I think momentarily. I'm getting a little heads up. I'm going to tease it. We're going to wait for it. I'm going to pivot after the break. I've got two very special guests that are going to join me. I've got to talk about the ccp. There's so much going on with the CCP and what's happening right now and prepping. I want to make sure everybody's up to speed on that. The folks at Birchgold. So folks, so we had some wins and big wins down in North Carolina. And I really want to thank the Warren posse, particularly the Tar Heels. And look, this kind of hurts me as a Virginian. People down in that part of the country understand that Virginia and North Carolina are very, very competitive. And now I'm the first to admit I do own property down in a section of North Carolina that's very close to my heart. My sister lives down there. She loves. I know so many Virginians that have moved down there. What's happened in western North Carolina where your uncle Chris used to live, down there in Asheville, where Mark Meadows is from, has just been horrible. And my sister's been telling me nonstop that these people and I just got reinforced with about folks going on there with Samaritan's purse and having no FEMA's not around and they don't know if it's payback. This vote in Carolina today, Mo was so important in the war room policy. Step up 72 to 46, all Republicans, let me repeat, all Republicans, including the three or four they thought were on the bubble. And that came from your calls and your reinforcement. I heard it was a massive outpouring. The vote just took place and this really kind of sorts things out before the Democrats continue to they pass on the administration to a new Democrat. And quite frankly, I still don't understand the math how everybody lost. Some of the candidates down ticket were absolutely fabulous. But you're going to get turbulence in a lot of turbulence. We know this. The NDA passed $900 billion. I'm still not buying even Degrasse, what a great guy other guys have pitched me. I'm not buying the fact once you lock that number in, that number is the number Elon. And these guys are not going to have the opportunity to shift it around, I don't think except on the margins because. And I fought this thing being approved. Only 16 Republicans voted against it, including, including Burchett and including Marjorie Taylor Greene Burleson. A lot of the folks, a lot of folks you see in the war room a lot. Chip Roy, Andy Biggs, others and Mo, if you and Grace can put that up, I want everybody in the posse to see that right now online. Birchgold.com Bannon end of the dollar empire. You can talk to the Birch Gold guys directly. Philip Patrick and the team who are the best guys out there. If you have your phone, type in Bannon B A N N O N. @ 989-898. Mo Bannon.
Unnamed Contributor
Well, I have the 16 Republicans that voted no.
Steve Bannon
You want to read them?
Unnamed Contributor
Bigs Burchett, Burleson, Crane. Good. Of Virginia, Gosar, Green of Georgia, Griffith, Hageman, Massey, Norman, Perry, Rosendale, Roy, Self, and Staub.
Steve Bannon
Pretty. Pretty good list. Pretty strong. And there's some good names not on there. I'm sure they have their own. Their own, you know, their own reasons for that. But we have to stop. We have to stop this madness. Look, Mo is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point. 101st Airborne, served in Iraq. I was a naval officer for eight years, including four on a destroyer, which is probably the best time of my life and the time I was directly contributing to the defense of my country. We would both tell you, you can't continue on this madness. You can't do $900 billion going to a trillion dollars. We can't afford it. Mo. Warpath coffee.
Unnamed Contributor
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Steve Bannon
Don't give me. You don't drink the dark. You don't drink.
Unnamed Contributor
I do. I do. Actually. Actually, at Marybeth's house, I did drink the dark roast. No cream. No cream, no sugar. And I actually really like.
Steve Bannon
That's all we have. Brew. You go to her house, you get the pumpkin flavor or whatever the.
Unnamed Contributor
The vanilla hazelnut. The Christmas or the holiday blend, it's not coffee.
Steve Bannon
Although they sell out. They're so good that Tage tells me they can't keep them stocked.
Unnamed Contributor
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Steve Bannon
That's a Greg Halligay gift. A stocking stuffer of a generator. Let's have a generator.
Unnamed Contributor
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Steve Bannon
Come on, get ready for Christmas right now here in the war room. Okay, short commercial break. We're gonna return in a moment.
Unnamed Commentator
In America's home.
Unnamed Guest
You won't.
Mike Lindell
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All this nonsense, all this spin. They can't handle the truth. War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, welcome back on a huge day full of wins. Winning in North Carolina didn't quite win. Kind of lost maybe in the NDA. Big win over at the FBI and so many more shows packed today is going to be even more packed tomorrow morning. Honored to have on one of my favorite people, Cleo Pascal, the columnist for the Sunday Guardian. You got to remember, the Sunday Guardian is actually center right to far right from India. It's one of my favorite papers. You have been on here before to warn us about the third island chain or whatever that we fought, you know, 80 some years ago in Tarawa, in Peleliu, all throughout there to win these. And now we're giving them up. But you wanted to come over today, you're on Capitol Hill to warn us that we got a deeper problem than that. And I just want to announce she President Trump, I guess playing five dimension chess invited Xi to the inauguration. What do you mean? What do you what's the national security concern with the Chinese coming into the country without visas?
Cleo Pascal
So you know where Guam is, obviously.
Steve Bannon
I spent a lot of time there.
Cleo Pascal
Yeah. So just north of Guam is the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas, which is part of the United States of America. That's Saipan and Tinian. Tinian is where Northfield was. That was the biggest airfield.
Steve Bannon
Well, that's what we launched. That's what we launched from the atomic bomb.
Cleo Pascal
That's where the Enola Gay took off.
Steve Bannon
From the saipan is where 10,000 Japanese threw themselves or Sipanes, threw themselves over the cliff instead of surrender to American troops.
Unnamed Guest
Right?
Cleo Pascal
Yes. And it was Mount Topochow. It was one of the most horrific battles. It was where the Marines came up against, for the first time, an enormous civilian population, the Chamorros who lived there and dealt with it. In fact, there's a beautiful Christmas story we're coming up. They won 80 years ago this last summer. And so they had the island. They had saipan on Christmas 1944. And they had all of these Chamorro and Carolinian children who were in camps. And the Seabees and the Marines brought them out of the camps. They paired one CB to one child and made them Christmas presents and gave them a Christmas because the American military men were so missing their own kids, and these kids were so displaced that they came together for this incredibly beautiful Saipan Christmas. And that was part of the reason why that the compassion of the American military men who were there was one of the reasons why the people of that location voted to join the United States of America. And they are the newest part of the United States of America. They became Americans in 1970s, complicated 1980. And that is American territory with American citizens on it. And Chinese citizens can arrive there without a visa. They can just get off a plane, no background checks, no visas, nothing in.
Steve Bannon
CNMI to Saipan and also. But also Guam.
Cleo Pascal
So they're not supposed to leave cnmi, but by the hundreds they do, they're.
Steve Bannon
Illegally depicted because Guam is a big. It's a huge honeymoon place for the Japanese. I mean, Guam's turn in, when I was there, still had the World War II stuff, but, man, it's a major resort place now.
Cleo Pascal
It also happens to have a couple military bases or three, a heck of.
Steve Bannon
A naval base there. So they've been finding the only place we really got deep water things. You can put ships in dry dock and work on them.
Cleo Pascal
And they've been finding these Chinese wandering around the bases. So we've been looking at the southern border and at the northern border, but this western border is wide open.
Steve Bannon
You're saying the western Pacific border is wide open. Wow.
Cleo Pascal
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
So what do we need to. Are you alerting people on Capitol Hill about this? Why does this seem to get. No. Given the sacrifice in blood it was for us to take it and understanding how strategic it is given what the Japanese did. And the Chinese are just trying to replicate that in East Asia. Why is that lesson lost on us, particularly over in the Pentagon with, like, the Marine Corps, I mean, people should be up in arms about this and they're not.
Cleo Pascal
Yes. I think what happened was that greatest generation that was in Congress and that created this relationship with CNMI and the other islands is no longer there. So the institutional memory and the personal memory of the people who fought in that area, people like Ben Gilman, who is head of H Vac. He fought in the Pacific. He took off from those airfields. He knows personally what that cost. He never would have let this happen. And this rule that allows the Chinese to arrive without a visa, that's homeland. Homeland could change it with the stroke of a pen.
Steve Bannon
Homeland security, yeah. So Kristi Noem and Homan and these.
Cleo Pascal
Guys, they can close that door. Overnight, over 30 members of Congress, all Republicans, wrote to Secretary Mayorkas and asked him to close that loophole and he refused. He refused? Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Did they have a reason or he just refused?
Cleo Pascal
He said that in sort of 2008, 2009 period, the Chinese contributed a lot to the tourist economy of Saip.
Steve Bannon
Please don't tell me that was the excuse.
Cleo Pascal
That was the excuse. And the other thing is that there is, you know, we mentioned they're rebuilding the fields on Tinian on Northfield. Right. There's a Chinese linked casino that just opened up on the dual use harbor in Tinian. This follows on another casino that they had on the main island of Saipan that was running more money through it than the casinos in Macau. Now the governor of cnmi, very good man, he's testified before Congress and said, investigate me, send resident, da, send FBI, send treasury, go through everything related to anything you want. Clean us up. Because he knows how vulnerable they are and he knows what the cost of getting it wrong was. You know, we're heading to 80th anniversary of VJ Day. Right. He beat the Japanese August 15, 1945. We're going to be getting to an 80th anniversary where places like Saipan have been taken over by the Chinese 80 years later without even a fight.
Steve Bannon
It's unbelievable. It's really shocking. Explain the importance of also that island chain. People should know at Saipan is where they. Saipan and tiny. But Saipan really is where Lemay and these guys built a base that allowed the firebombing of Tokyo and Japan. We have lost. Even before the atomic bomb, they were thinking 3 or 4 million invasion and a million casualties. Even given the industrial. The bombing we did there was even worse than industrial Germany.
Cleo Pascal
So what happened with the battle of Saipan? As you mentioned, that was what Japan considered its inner defense line. As soon as they lost Saipan. They knew Tokyo was in range of the B29s. So that was. That's why that was such a horrific battle with the thousands who threw themselves off the suicide cliffs. But also the banzai charges like you haven't hadn't seen before. And the men that fought there. There have been some beautiful books written about it, but it's just horrific what happened. And in the midst of all of that, I really want to reinforce this. The Marines took the time to make sure the locals were safe. And there were Marines who spoke Japanese, who would yell out to the people on the cliffs, don't jump. You're going to be okay. I mean, there was a humanity to the brutality on the US Side, the necessary brutality that created a bond with the local people that has maintained for 80 years. But now the Chinese money is flowing into such a degree and memories are starting to fade that we really need to look at it again and remind everybody why this is so important.
Steve Bannon
Specifically, when you're at Capitol Hill talking to these folks or talking, kind of talk to Kristi Noem and to Homan, what is your specific ask? What are you saying you think needs to be done to sort this thing out? Out.
Cleo Pascal
Chinese arriving in the United States need a visa.
Steve Bannon
Simple.
Cleo Pascal
It's not complicated. Why is there one part of the United States where they don't? I mean, it doesn't make any sense. The other thing, that they're now the pro. Pierce.
Steve Bannon
They get to Saipan with no visa. Can they catch a flight to Guam and then get a flight to Hawaii and still no. There's still no visa all the way through?
Cleo Pascal
Not legally.
Steve Bannon
Is it just for Saipan?
Cleo Pascal
Just for Saipan. However, the woman that ran the Bureau of Motor Vehicles in Saipan has been convicted of selling driver's licenses to Chinese.
Steve Bannon
So shocked.
Cleo Pascal
Yeah. And they've been using the postal service because once you're there, it's domestic mail for distributing drugs.
Steve Bannon
The fentanyl and everything is one of the ways.
Cleo Pascal
I think it's mostly meth, but, yeah, from there. And they're setting up the casinos, this new casino, which is supposed to be kind of online proxy voting potentially. So we don't know, because you're in the U.S. financial system once you're in.
Steve Bannon
The U.S. u.S. That island chain, given, you know, there's announcements today about, you know, all these fleets the Chinese are putting out there in the South China Sea. Why is that island chain. So given the precarious nature of Taiwan being 90 miles off the coast, we're going grant here in a moment to talk about it. But given that, why is that just reinforced the fact of how valuable strategically this island chain is for us.
Cleo Pascal
It's. It's how the Japanese hit Pearl harbor was they controlled those islands and the islands all the way across from 1914 to 1944. At the end of the war, the US said, these men who had fought there said, we don't want that to happen again. We want the buffer to go all the way off to the other coast to where Guam is and where CNMI is Sipanoid. And so they made these arrangements. First of all, CNMI became part of the U.S. guam was since the Spanish American War. And those three islands, Asian countries across the middle, have a compact of free association with the US which allows the US strategic denial and to basically do what it wants there as if it were the homeland. So this is the way of pushing Asian problems to stay in Asia. Otherwise, they come right across the middle. We've seen it before. We've had. There was one case, one of the admirals said that a Chinese officer had said to him, why don't you take Hawaii east, we'll take Hawaii west, and we'll save you the trouble of being in the Pacific. The way they do that is by getting the islands through political warfare.
Steve Bannon
The Sunny Guardian is a paper in India. Why are the Indians so focused on your writing and particularly this area of the world?
Cleo Pascal
So the Indians are the only ones that have killed PLA soldiers in battle recently in 2020, and they lost 20 of their men. And when they lost 20 of their men, the people within India who had been worried about China since the 62 war. This is worth noting.
Steve Bannon
People don't. Because the Cuban Missile crisis was taken back at the same time. And so as the Chinese will always use, if they're diverted, they're going to hit.
Cleo Pascal
That's exactly right.
Steve Bannon
So in this war, the people forget the war in 62 was get it on.
Cleo Pascal
Yeah. And the Indians know that their strategic community is really good. They used to live next to the independent country of Tibet. Now they live next to China. Right. And they don't like it. It's changed the strategic dynamics. Geography is history. The Chinese changed the geography through invasion and conquering. And they know that Mao said, we're going to take the highlands and then go down through the five fingers. Down through. Yeah. So they know it.
Steve Bannon
Are you writing a book? Are you working on a book?
Cleo Pascal
That's very kind.
Steve Bannon
This is fascinating stuff. Every time I have you on, the people want to know more Where'd they go to get your ranks? What's the website and your social media, all that?
Cleo Pascal
Oh, that's kind. If you go to my Twitter feed, which is just my name, Leopaskal, then.
Steve Bannon
I put spell that for our particularly the podcast audience is audio. The visual C will have it up there. How you spell the last word and.
Cleo Pascal
It'S a confusing one. So it's Cleo, C, L, E O, P, A S, K A L and that's it. And yeah, I put links to my stuff up there. I'm a little shy.
Steve Bannon
You can't be shy in the war room. No shy.
Cleo Pascal
Thank you for caring about this region.
Steve Bannon
Because I spent time over there as a young man. We spent time in Guam, went by sight, all of it. And I've read so much history of World War II and of course the family and all my uncles coming back that had been over there. It's a fascinating place in the world and the people are so great. It's so beautiful. One thing that gets me is when you go to these places. Mine was in the 7 70s, but you go to these places 30 years afterwards now it's been, you know, 80 years. You see these beautiful tropical jungles. It's so peaceful and so beautiful. You just realize this was hell on earth. I mean, this was everythe landings there were worse than Normandy. As bad as Normandy was. I mean, the war in the Pacific was savage, pure savagery. Yes, because it had a racial component to it, you know, with the old breed. The guy that wrote it was a professor at the University of Alabama and wrote it many years later. And in his foreword, he said there's nothing more savage than an 18 year old American, Right. That's told to go kill. And it was his experiences with the old breed, with the old Marine unit that was so famous throughout the Pacific.
Cleo Pascal
And then they remember their younger siblings when they see the locals. Right. I mean, that element of what happened during that war I think needs to also be remembered and honored.
Steve Bannon
Oh, we have to.
Cleo Pascal
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Cleo, thank you so much. We're going to get Grant in here. Thank you so much. Fantastic. Okay, President Trump. Grant, if we can get you take the hot seat here. We got the book up on the. Can you text me over the book too? I want to make sure I see the COVID again. I love this book. I get multiple copies. I give it all the time. Grant, here you are. Right here. Colonel, right here. Thank you, sir. We're live. So we just do this. This is real producing. Have a seat. We have President Trump Just get up to this microphone a little bit. President Trump has invited Xi to the inauguration. Your thoughts? You're a strategic thinker. Is he playing five dimension chess or have we just thrown the board out?
Colonel Grant Newsham
He has turned the tables. Normally it would be an American going to China playing the supplication, and now he's giving Xi Jinping the opportunity to come to America and pay homage to us.
Steve Bannon
So you like it when Trump in Notre Dame the other day, he looked like Charlemagne, right? I mean, it was absolutely stunning. Is that, is this Trump's power move to say, hey, look, you know, I'm here, we're going to show you democracy in action. I know you don't have this ceremony in Tiananmen Square, but we'll show it to you. You think that's the move?
Colonel Grant Newsham
I think it is. It's something nobody would have guessed. I wouldn't.
Steve Bannon
It was. I know he's thinking of a lot of good ideas.
Mike Lindell
Tell me about your.
Steve Bannon
Why is your book. Because your book's very scary. Why is your book more relevant today on the 11th of December, a Wednesday here in 2024, than it was even when you wrote it?
Colonel Grant Newsham
Well, I think the Chinese attack has not let up. And the topic of the subject, of course, is when China attacks. And my point is that it's not.
Steve Bannon
If China attacks, it's when China attacks. What your thesis, what do you mean when they attack?
Colonel Grant Newsham
Well, they've already attacked us. To the Chinese way of looking at war, it's not like the way we look at it, where until the shooting starts, you know, we can be friends, we just have to talk. Enough. The Chinese look at war as not always shooting. In fact, the shooting part is the very last part. So things like getting the, say, the elites of your target company to do your bidding, getting the financial sector to invest in, send all their money this way, having the economic class, the CEO class, ship factories over to China and then we provide them with the wherewithal, the money to actually build up their economy, and they send drugs our way and kill 70,000 of us at least a year. So they haven't fired a shot and yet they have gotten us dependent on them. They have weakened our economy, destroyed these neighborhoods where you used to have so called working class, and they're killing us by the tens of thousands a year and we're not doing anything.
Steve Bannon
Is this conscious when you talk about the, when you talk about the drugs, the fentanyl in their mind, is this the reverse opium war?
Colonel Grant Newsham
Oh, that's just the excuse. That's all it is.
Steve Bannon
Oh, because the whites did it to us, the British did it to us, and the Americans are the running dogs of the British. They say we can do it to you.
Colonel Grant Newsham
That's basically.
Steve Bannon
But their mindset is that this is the way the British East India Company and the British took us over. This is the way that we can give a hammer blow to the Americans.
Colonel Grant Newsham
I think that is at best a justification more. I think they see that we're not going to do anything and it works.
Steve Bannon
What do you mean by that?
Colonel Grant Newsham
Well, there has been no downside punishment to the Chinese for having killed us. It's getting up close to a million people in the last decade and that's just the dead. There's been no punishment. We still invest in China. That flow of foreign exchange usable currency into China hasn't really let up. There has been just continued engagement with the Chinese. There's been no serious sanctions put on them. Tariffs, yes, but nothing that's really slowed them down. And certainly there's been nothing that personally hurts the Chinese communist leadership. They're glad to let the mass of the Chinese people people suffer. But when it affects them personally, like seizing their overseas wealth, their bank accounts, their real estate, and letting every Chinese person know that their leaders have actually moved so much of their own wealth out of China, we don't do any of those things. And there's been no say, there's been no personal cost to the Chinese leadership for doing this and very little to China itself. The Chinese military buildup continues. Obviously we're not hurting them enough. And this is what they've done for killing, you know, killing us on an industrial scale. And this has been, unfortunately, it's been a Republican and a Democrat achievement to let the Chinese get away with this.
Steve Bannon
If we don't step up now and really through the force of will start to change the direction of this. How long do you think it is till we get into a more traditional kinetic war with these guys?
Colonel Grant Newsham
You know, I think it could be any day.
Steve Bannon
Any day?
Colonel Grant Newsham
Any day. I think some people say, oh, 20, 27, 20, 30, any day. That's what I'm afraid. So the Chinese military is at such a state where if they chose their time, chose their spot, they could probably beat us. And if it's just Taiwan you're going after, they may think that they have the capability to do.
Steve Bannon
What do you mean they could beat us? You believe right now if the balloon went up, that the 7th Fleet could defend Taiwan?
Colonel Grant Newsham
I think they would try valiantly. But if it was Just a short fight say in the South China Sea close to the Chinese mainland. The Chinese can outnumber us shipwise by at least 10 to 1. And suppose you're a US destroyer skipper in the South China Sea and you've got 20 anti ship cruise missiles coming at you easily at supersonic speed. You've got 12 seconds to decide what to do. That's how outmanned we are. As I said if they choose their spots that they could give us a very bloody nose. And this is what has come of letting them just build up with unchallenged and really a condescension to it this idea that well the Chinese will never be our equals but if it's a.
Steve Bannon
Global fight, we fight the ship. Are you, you're in Japan still or you're outside, you're only here for a few days. That's right John and Cleo, you're here for a few days. I'm going to talk to these folks after the show and try to line up maybe tomorrow get you both on here together and have maybe even deeper conversation. I'll look it through real quickly. Is the United States, are the people in the country psychologically ready to have a carrier battle group of 10,000 sailors go be sunk to the bottom of the sea?
Colonel Grant Newsham
No. Do you remember a few years ago when four man special forces team got run down in Niger? It was a national catastrophe. 10,000 is something we're not ready for.
Steve Bannon
Do you think there is a possibility that in this shooting war that you say may happen that a carrier battle group with Those ships and 10,000 sailors could go to that could get end up at the bottom of the sea?
Colonel Grant Newsham
It could.
Steve Bannon
Colonel, thank you so much. What's the title of the book and where do they go for your social.
Colonel Grant Newsham
Okay, the title of the book is When China Attacks A warning to America. My Twitter is at Newsham.
Steve Bannon
Grant, Colonel Grant. It's Colonel Grant Newsham, U.S. marine Corps, United States Marine Corps. Okay, thank you so much for being here sir. Honored. Thanks for having honor. We're going to try to set it up for you guys tomorrow. Okay. Tomorrow morning at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time we're going to be back in the work have updates. Some big news going to break overnight I think on the regarding the transition. A couple of other big names taking big roles in President Trump's second term. Also more updates on the confirmation process of Cash and the other folks. Okay so we'll update you on that 10am tomorrow morning. We'll see you then when you'll be Back in the War Room. Thank you. The whirlwind is in the palm trees. It's hard for thee to kick against.
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Release Date: December 12, 2024
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode Title: WarRoom Battleground EP 670: Defending Our Northern Border
The episode opens with an unnamed analyst discussing the intricate relationships between Cash Patel and conservative whistleblowers, referred to as "Suspendables." These individuals express significant grievances against the FBI, alleging misuse of the suspension of their clearances to oust them from the Bureau. The analyst highlights the legitimacy of some claims, noting, “There was some legitimacy to some of the claims that they were making about the way that the internal process had been used” ([00:02]).
Stephen Bannon delves into the crumbling confidence in the FBI's background check processes and the Senate Republicans' skepticism regarding the handling of perceived threats. He asserts, “What’s broken is that nobody has confidence that a fulfilled background check will happen by the FBI” ([01:08]). Bannon emphasizes the need to expose these failures, arguing that the lack of accountability is undermining the Bureau’s integrity.
Mike Lindell shares his personal encounter with the FBI, detailing aggressive tactics used to seize his phone and disrupt his operations. He recounts, “They hunted Mike Lindell down. They trailed him down. And a public humiliation at... Arby's or Wendy's” ([05:15]). Lindell describes confronting the agents, challenging their authority, and ultimately securing his phone through legal channels, highlighting the invasive and humiliating nature of the FBI’s actions.
Bannon criticizes the FBI's leadership, particularly Director Chris Wray, who he believes lacks the principle to stand against internal and external pressures. He remarks, “If you believed in the FBI, if you believed in your mission, if you believe you had done nothing wrong, you would have served out the three years you didn't” ([10:43]). Bannon underscores the notion that key FBI figures are either fleeing or capitulating under pressure, undermining public trust.
The conversation shifts to broader issues, including President Trump's strategic maneuvers and the perceived vulnerabilities in national security. Bannon discusses the potential impact of Trump's decisions on international relations, especially concerning China, stating, “President Trump is playing five dimension chess” ([21:00]). This segment explores the complexities of geopolitical strategies and their domestic repercussions.
Cleo Pascal, a columnist from India’s Sunday Guardian, and Colonel Grant Newsham, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, provide in-depth analysis of Chinese strategic advancements and threats to U.S. territories. Pascal warns of the open western Pacific borders, particularly on islands like Saipan and Guam, which are vulnerable to Chinese infiltration without stringent visa requirements. She explains, “Chinese arriving in the United States need a visa” ([38:55]).
Colonel Newsham adds urgency to the discussion, emphasizing the potential for kinetic warfare against China. He states, “The Chinese military is at such a state where if they chose their time, chose their spot, they could probably beat us” ([49:13]). The guests highlight the strategic importance of Pacific islands, the historical significance of battles like Saipan, and the current geopolitical maneuvers by China to establish dominance in the region.
Bannon and his guests stress the immediate need for policy reforms to secure national borders and counteract foreign threats. They advocate for stricter visa controls, enhanced military preparedness, and bipartisan efforts to restore integrity within federal agencies like the FBI. Bannon concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to stay vigilant and support measures that defend American sovereignty and uphold the rule of law.
The episode wraps up with Bannon previewing upcoming discussions and emphasizing the continuous struggle against internal corruption and external threats. He reiterates the importance of the listener community in driving these changes, stating, “This was one of the greatest smear. This is one of the greatest black marks in the history of our republic” ([14:25]).
Unnamed Analyst ([00:02]): “There was some legitimacy to some of the claims that they were making about the way that the internal process had been used.”
Steve Bannon ([01:08]): “What’s broken is that nobody has confidence that a fulfilled background check will happen by the FBI.”
Mike Lindell ([05:15]): “They hunted Mike Lindell down. They trailed him down. And a public humiliation at... Arby's or Wendy's.”
Steve Bannon ([10:43]): “If you believed in the FBI, if you believed in your mission, if you believe you had done nothing wrong, you would have served out the three years you didn't.”
Cleo Pascal ([38:55]): “Chinese arriving in the United States need a visa.”
Colonel Grant Newsham ([49:13]): “The Chinese military is at such a state where if they chose their time, chose their spot, they could probably beat us.”
Steve Bannon ([21:00]): “President Trump is playing five dimension chess.”
Steve Bannon ([14:25]): “This is one of the greatest smear. This is one of the greatest black marks in the history of our republic.”
This episode of Bannon’s War Room provides a critical examination of internal challenges within the FBI, personal accounts of harassment from prominent conservative figures like Mike Lindell, and strategic warnings about foreign threats, particularly from China. Through detailed discussions and expert guest insights, the episode underscores the urgency of defending national sovereignty and restoring trust in federal institutions.