WarRoom Battleground EP 671: J6 Committee Members Seek Pardons

Summary

Summary of "WarRoom Battleground EP 671: J6 Committee Members Seek Pardons" – Bannon`s War Room

Release Date: December 13, 2024
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guest: Natalie Winters
Special Segment: Naomi Wolf

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1. US Aid to Ukraine and Russia’s Strategy (00:02 – 00:41)

Natalie Winters initiates the discussion by critiquing the United States' financial support to Ukraine. She argues that reducing aid is a strategic move designed to pressure Russian President Vladimir Putin into negotiations. Winters states:

"We haven't had any audits. So I'm all to talk about aid, but how do we actually know that any of this is actually going well? This 50 billion... is a loan."
[00:06]

Stephen K. Bannon interjects to clarify that the aid is structured as a loan, highlighting concerns about the transparency and accountability of such substantial financial commitments.

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2. Lawfare and Attempts to Prosecute Trump (00:44 – 02:58)

Winters delves into the concept of "lawfare," referring to the use of legal systems to target political opponents. She draws parallels between aggressive legal actions against former President Donald Trump and broader societal issues:

"If you think or you disagree with someone's politics, you are allowed to use outside the system to try to effectuate whatever goals you may deem appropriate for this country."
[00:44]

She critiques the Department of Justice and figures like Alvin Bragg for what she perceives as unjust prosecutions against Trump, emphasizing the misuse of resources:

"Maybe they shouldn't have spent tens of millions of dollars prosecuting President Donald J. Trump."
[02:58]

Bannon supports Winters’ viewpoint, agreeing that the legal pursuits against Trump are excessive and counterproductive.

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3. Censorship of Conservative Voices and Healthcare System Critique (02:58 – 09:11)

Winters accuses the political left and the Biden administration of systematically censoring conservative discourse, especially concerning the origins of COVID-19 and criticism of big pharmaceutical companies. She expresses frustration over being silenced:

"The entirety of the left, the Biden White House, weaponized millions... to censor the entire conservative movement."
[General Time]

She underscores how attempts to discuss substantive changes in the healthcare system are thwarted by media censorship, stifling necessary debates on medical debt and pharmaceutical profiteering.

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4. J6 Committee and Preemptive Pardons (09:11 – 19:39)

The discussion shifts to the January 6th Committee, focusing on its investigations and the controversial topic of preemptive pardons for its members. Bannon references Naomi Wolf’s insights on FBI Director Christopher Wray’s resignation and the committee’s handling of confidential human sources:

"It's the original sin... incorrect intelligence to go after MAGA specific positions."
[09:42]

Winters criticizes the committee for selective narrative building, likening it to tactics used by the Chinese Communist Party’s Hundred Flowers Movement. She argues that the committee's approach undermines genuine democratic processes and targets the MAGA movement unfairly.

A significant portion of the episode addresses the White House's alleged discussions about offering blanket pardons to J6 committee members. Winters interprets these maneuvers as indicative of deeper systemic issues:

"These people are feral dogs. Indeed, in the true form and style of Hunter Biden... These people melt down."
[19:39]

She contends that such pardons would erode accountability and perpetuate a culture of impunity among political elites.

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5. Naomi Wolf on Pfizer's Vaccine Trials (38:48 – 51:14)

Naomi Wolf presents a critical examination of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine trials, alleging fraudulent practices in reporting participant deaths. She details the case of a 63-year-old Kansas woman whose death was not promptly reported to the FDA, violating Pfizer’s own protocols:

"It looks like murder to me. Her death by Pfizer."
[38:48]

Wolf argues that withholding such critical information compromised the integrity of the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) process:

"Pfizer had knowledge of those deaths and didn't report them."
[44:58]

She calls for thorough investigations into Pfizer's conduct, emphasizing the ethical breach and potential public health risks posed by these omissions. Wolf urges listeners to support her initiatives and access detailed reports through platforms like DailyCloud.io and App Outspoken.

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Conclusion

Episode 671 of "WarRoom Battleground" delivered a robust critique of current political and healthcare systems from a conservative standpoint. Through incisive discussions with Natalie Winters and Naomi Wolf, the podcast highlighted concerns over US foreign aid transparency, the misuse of legal systems to target political figures, the silencing of conservative voices, and alleged misconduct within COVID-19 vaccine trials. The episode underscores a call for accountability and transparency within governmental and corporate structures, advocating for the protection of conservative movements and the integrity of public health protocols.

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Notable Quotes

• Natalie Winters on US Aid Audits:

  "We haven't had any audits. So I'm all to talk about aid, but how do we actually know that any of this is actually going well?"
  [00:06]

• Winters on Lawfare Against Trump:

  "If you think or you disagree with someone's politics, you are allowed to use outside the system to try to effectuate whatever goals."
  [00:44]

• Naomi Wolf on Pfizer’s Failure to Report Deaths:

  "It looks like murder to me. Her death by Pfizer."
  [38:48]

• Winters on Blanket Pardons:

  "These people are feral dogs. Indeed, in the true form and style of Hunter Biden... These people melt down."
  [19:39]

• Bannon on Committee Investigations:

  "It's the original sin... incorrect intelligence to go after MAGA specific positions."
  [09:42]

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and viewpoints presented in the episode, providing a coherent narrative for those who have not listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Natalie Winters]

Agree with America putting the screw on helping Ukraine as much as possible to force Putin into doing a deal. I do think it's a sensible strategy. I think he's on the run. We saw that from Syria. Quite extraordinary. The Russians didn't put up any kind of supportive fight for Assad. All they've done is give him a safe hand to give a foreign national, Zelensky, a better negotiating footing or seat at the table. Not just against Putin, but also against the United States too. And by the way, where are the audits? We haven't had any audits. So I'm all to talk about aid, but how do we actually know that any of this is actually going well? This 50 billion, as I understand it, like a lot of the other money.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Is a loan which will. It's a loan. Right.

[Natalie Winters]

So Mujah, I mean, do you have a problem in working behind the scenes to make happen? There's only one person called Mujaha. Yeah, I mean, I really think we should take a step back here. And I don't just mean it because the left is essentially defending violent homeless people who are attacking and harassing Americans trying to abduct children. But I mean, the fact that this slippery slope logic chain that you're hearing right now is why you saw two assassination attempts against President Donald J. Trump. In other words, if you think or you disagree with someone's politics, you are allowed to use outside the system change to try to effectuate whatever goals you may deem appropriate for this country. And by the way, this goes all the way to the top with Alvin Bragg and all the lawfare cases that you saw against President Trump too, which by the way, you want to talk about a waste of resources, how we need more police officers in the train. Well, maybe they shouldn't have spent tens of millions of dollars prosecuting President Donald J. Trump. And by the way, you want to talk about where New York City has had to spend all of its fund. It's on illegal immigration. Right. And that goes back to this oppressor versus oppressed narrative, this idea that this country needs to perpetually defend and bail out criminal, in this case, criminal aliens. But criminals like Jordan Neely who are harassing everyday working Americans, the same people that you probably think are being screwed over by healthcare CEOs, which I agree in that case. But I don't understand in your worldview how you can both want to support these progressive soft on crime policies that make the living experience, the lived experience, the working daily commutes of average Americans, they have to face People, crazy homeless people who are trying to kill them because their tax dollars are being used to what, house illegal immigrants in homes that are nicer than the very homes that they live in. And by the way, might I just add, I am so down to have a conversation about the healthcare system in this country, but I'm old enough to remember that, what was it, the entirety of the left, the Biden White House, weaponized millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to censor the entire conservative movement, saying that we were absolutely crazy because we dared to question where Covid came from. We dared to question, well, healthcare and big pharma's profits on vaccines and mask mandates, the whole gamut. So I'm down to have that conversation. But you guys have spent years censoring us, trying to open that conversation. And we try to put another changemaker. Somehow you know what? These people melt down.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You know what?

[Natalie Winters]

I think that's a perfect valid point, but we're not going to debate that now. Maybe another time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Pierce, can I, can I ask a mic drop? It's Thursday, the 12th of December, the year of our Lord 2024. Natalie, when is your, did you get that training at University of Chicago or someplace else? Ma'am?

[Natalie Winters]

I hate watching myself, so thank you for subjecting me to watch that. Definitely that training was not received at the University of Chicago. That was from one person and one person only. And that is you, Stephen K. Bannon. I. Hey, Slate said I was Gen Z Bannon. I think that's the nicest thing that's ever been said about me.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Wow, that was. I gotta tell you, Natalie, that was a full on beatdown last night. Piers Morgan was a standing eight count. The rest of these guys don't even. From now on, the only thing I gotta tell your agent is no more panels. It's gotta be you mano a mano. But talk to us about what they tried to. What did they try? Because your point was so well taken. Then what was the whole, the whole big segment. You guys had a long segment of peers. What was the point? What were they trying to get at?

[Natalie Winters]

Well, we were talking about the assassination of the healthcare CEO and my two co panelists, one who I think it was a matter of only three seconds before they invoked January 6th and the other, maybe it was five seconds before they invoked racism. Basically said, and I quote, that they have no empathy for the murder of Brian Johnson because he's been. His company's been screwing over Americans. And like I said, I would never want to be on the front lines of defending the healthcare system in this country. There's way too much medical debt. But it fits into what you sort of got me or you heard me talking about, right? The idea of the oppressor versus oppressed narrative, since he's the evil, capitalist, greedy CEO, therefore you're allowed to try to kill him because you don't agree with him much like the same logic train that you saw President Trump being, what, an attempted assassination against him? Twice. So they said that they had no empathy for him, which I think is a totally disgusting claim. But I just sort of broadened it out because like I said, those are the same people, the same media institutions, that anytime we've tried to force discussions, actual substantive change about the healthcare system in this country, which is, of course, driven by maximizing the profits for companies like Pfizer and the healthcare system writ large, they've censored us. They've spent close to a trillion dollars trying to do that. So I raised that point, and I don't know if Piers Morgan will necessarily invite me back on to have that discussion or to pick up where we left off on the Ukraine conversation. But I think one thing's very clear. You can't give arms to a foreign country to try to give them a better negotiating stance against the United States. That's something called treason.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Very well taken. We're going to get into your favorite topic today, the reason why Christopher Wray really resigned yesterday. Capitulated. I want to start that by something Darren Beattie brought up in the last hour. Let's go back. I think we have it. Denver. Let's play Senator Amy Klobuchar in Christopher Wray from a while ago. Let's go ahead and play that segment.

[Naomi Wolf]

If we would have known if we could have infiltrated this group or found out what they were doing and that. Do you have those moments?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Absolutely. I will tell you, Senator, and this is something I feel passionately about, that anytime there's an attack, our standard at the FBI is we aim to bat a thousand. Right. And we aim to athwart every attack that's out there. So anytime there's an attack, especially one that's this horrific, that strikes right at the heart of our system of government, right at the time the transfer of power is being discussed, you can be darn tooting that we are focused very, very hard on how can we get better sources, better information, better analysis, so that we can make sure that something like what happened on January 6th never happens again.

[Naomi Wolf]

Okay, so there's been a lot of discussion about this Norfolk memo that arrived, as you noted, with key people in the Capitol Police and others the night before they testified last week. The chief that he didn't even know about it until the few days before our hearing. And in fact, while there may be some that downplay said intelligence, I will note while we don't have the memo publicly, that in that memo there were statements that Congress needs to hear. The glass breaking, doors being kicked up, blood being spilled. We get our president or we die. Go there ready for war. Some of the specific calls for violence that we know were posted at that time. We know that President Trump had called on people to go there on January 6th. We know that he told them to go wild. We know that in that memo there was discussions of, as reported in the news, perimeter maps, bringing back the wounded. And to me, it just seems like it's beyond aspirational in nature that it seems like some of these reports that we now know exist out there were specific in terms of these plans that were going on. And I'm just one of my questions that we will continue to be asking as part of this investigation we're doing with the Rules Committee and Homeland Security is how can we change this so this never happens again? So these types of threats and this type of information.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the darn Tootin segment with Chris Wray. Natalie, you've been at this a number of years with Raheem, with Darren Beatty, with Mike Benz, with the great Julie Kelly, Mike Davis. The team we got on this is killer. 88 pages after years, ma'am. 88 pages, a lot of filler. And just about DOJ and the FBI, not about anybody else, and dropped five weeks after the election. Your thoughts as you took your first cut through the IG Report today, ma'am?

[Natalie Winters]

I mean, it's a nice rough draft, I guess, for a creative writing class. That's how I would couch it. I think it's important, though, to sort of contextualize why they are so, so keen on narrative building, particularly when it comes to January 6th. I've always likened it to basically China and the Chinese Communist Party in terms of the Hundred Flowers Movement, Right. Where they sort of used it as a awkward, where they invited criticism of the government. I think, frankly, you could extend it out to the MAGA movement more broadly.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right.

[Natalie Winters]

And they used it to basically identify some of the most patriotic voices. Of course, I guess Chris Wray is certainly batting a thousand when it comes to criminal prosecutions of maga. But even people like yourself, thought leaders, too. And I think what's so concerning about it is that this is basically the original sin, I think the linchpin of so much of the sort of MAGA specific weaponization that you saw unfold. Right. It's the name narrative kind of glue that holds together this whole idea that we have to reorient the entire priority structure of our intel agencies and intel communities to go after domestic terrorism as opposed to what radical Islamic terrorism. Choose your enemy or fight fighting forces in Ukraine. And I think that you also have to look too, how confidential human sources have always been historically and empirically weaponized. Right. You go back to Russiagate. Christopher Steele was a confidential human source as part of that whole dossier attempts to get. So they have always politicized confidential human sources. And in this case, I think you're seeing them do that again, evidently, but in sort of a different way. What do I mean by that? There is absolutely no way that There were only 26 confidential human sources involved in this entire January 6th operation. You mentioned your interview with Darren. He also invoked the name of someone, Steven D'Antuono, who was the then assistant director of the Washington Field office. Now another, I think interesting point on his whole side of the thing, the whole Massey exchange aside, is that he was called in for questioning to give a transcribed interview with House Republicans back in 2023. And I want to read a write up because his interview was so concerning to investigators within House GOP that they then wrote a letter to Merrick Garland essentially saying that you guys, the FBI had no idea how many confidential human sources there were. The letter goes on. D'Antuono explained that due to the large number of confidential human sources present at the Capitol, the Washington field office asked FBI headquarters to do a poll or put out something to people saying were any confidential human sources involved so the FBI could try to ascertain how many had been in attendance. They go on to give an example of how the Kansas City field office had sent people despite headquarters and people higher up the food chain didn't know. Now there is no way, Steve, that you can tell me now just important fact, there's 56 field offices, that there were so many confidential human sources involved that the FBI was scrambling that it prompted House Republicans to send a letter to Merrick Garland, that they were sending out polls and questionnaires. And you're telling me that just 26 people from the FBI, that's what half of all their field offices sent people. I've heard from several sources from people who come on this show, people like Darren Beatty, Julie Kelly, that every field office sent at least one person. So the number should at least be 56. Right. And I think too, you also have to look at this just from a statistical kind of metadata perspective. There was reporting that there were over 40 confidential human sources reporting on the Biden family and their criminal enterprises. So if this 26 number is true, then I don't want to know what the heck the Biden family was up to because that number would be absolutely unprecedented. And of course, you've already started to see the sort of limited hangout happen. There was a wonderful Washington Post op ed today. Right wing conspiracy theorists are having a bad day. That's an actual article that they published at 3:30pm so, you know, they really had that one ready to go, trying to quash the whole Jan6 Fed direction narrative. But you have to pay very close attention to the analytical game that they're playing. Right? The idea of FBI employees versus confidential human sources versus assets, blah, blah, blah. What I would liken this to you talk about pattern recognition. It is the broader pattern that we have seen occur with basically every conspiracy theory that this show has been on the forefront of. What do I mean? Take for example, the first time that Anthony Fauci testified. Right. That infamous exchange with Rand Paul. The goalpost at that point was that while gain of function research never occurred at the Wuhan lab, then what was it? The second time he testified it was. Well, it did, but it was for good reason, to prevent pandemics. This is the equivalent of the first time Anthony Fauci testified. It's a limited hangout that the media is already trying to spin to say that, well, there weren't employees. Okay, maybe there weren't, but there were confidential human sources and you're not even getting the full picture.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to hang on. Let's go ahead and play. I want to play. Let's play the Bill Clinton and the Benny Thompson. We play those back to back. With all this going on and all this firestorm and now this, we've had. We've had a couple of quite odd occurrences in the media about participants in this looking for pardons. Let's go ahead and play it.

[Naomi Wolf]

Mr. President, Donald Trump will be returning to the White House unburdened by the pressure of reelection, with sweeping immunity granted to him, I believe, by the Supreme Court and an alleged enemies list we're hearing.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Do you think it would be wise.

[Naomi Wolf]

Of President Biden to preemptively pardon any potential targets? What about your wife, Hillary Clinton? She apparently is on Cash Patel's list for what?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, well, they got a problem with her because, first, she didn't do anything wrong, of course. Second, she followed the rules exactly as they were written. Third, Trump's State Department. Trump's State Department found. Remember how the emails were such a big issue in 2016? Trump's State Department found that Hillary sent and received exactly zero classified emails on her personal device. It was a whole. It was a made up, phony story. Yeah. So, you know, I guess if Cash Patel is determined to make one up, he could do it. But I think if President Biden wanted to talk to me about that, I would talk to him about it. But I don't think I should be giving public advice on the pardon power. I think it's too. It's a very personal thing, but it is. I hope he won't do that. Yeah, Trump, you know, you. Most of us get out of this world ahead of where we'd get if all we got was simple justice. Yeah, yeah. And so it's normally a fool's errand to spend a lot of time trying to get even.

[Naomi Wolf]

Yeah, I agreed.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But if he pardons them, that sort of implies that they did something wrong, which they didn't. And, Congressman, apparently the White House is discussing preemptive pardons for people who may be targeted by Trump when he gets back in office. Do you want the president to offer some kind of pardon to you? As strange as it is to ask that question, I'm just wondering what you think. Well, you know, the president is his prerogative. If he offers it to me or other members of the committee, I think I would accept it, but it's his choice. I think the staff of the committee, who did a wonderful job, I think the witnesses, who were primarily Republicans, did a great job on the oath. They were not found to have perjured themselves or anything like that. There's nothing in the record that's not already on point. We've had two years of review by Republican chairpersons. They found nothing wrong. So there's nothing that we kept out of the record. There's nothing that we took out of the record. So we stand by the work of the committee. Our committee did a wonderful job. We shared it with the public. And all the public has to do is to read the report that we filed based on our report. Okay, Natalie, you've had the Chris Ray capitulation you've had yesterday and overnight. And then this morning, all these questions about the blanket. Now they're putting the question to them, the blanket preemptive pardons. And you've had the IG report come out. These guys always move in packs. What do you think they're trying to tell us Here? Let me play. I'll tell you what, I got to play this. Bennie Thompson, Bennie Thompson was the Chairman of the J6 committee. The chairman of the J6 committee flat out says right there, hey, you know, the president's got to do what he's got to do, but if he offers it, I'm taken. Benny's all the way in. I think Benny knows more than just about anybody on this thing. Let's play it one more time for Natalie to comment on. Congressman, apparently the White House is discussing preemptive pardons for people who may be targeted by Trump when he gets back in office. Do you want the president to offer some kind of pardon to you? As strange as it is to ask that question, I'm just wondering what you think. Well, you know, the president is his prerogative. If he offers it to me or other members of the committee, I think it, I would accept it, but it's his choice. I think the staff of the committee who did a wonderful job, I think the witnesses, who were primarily Republicans, did a great job on the oath. They we were not found to have perjured themselves or anything like that. There's nothing in the record that's not already on point. We've had two years of review by the witnesses. Did a great job. The staff did a great job. He's done. That blanket for Benny Thompson is going to be pretty big, is it not, Natalie?

[Natalie Winters]

Well, Steve, I think you're going soft. Instead of saying like packs of feral dogs, you're just saying they're working in packs. These people are feral dogs. Indeed, in the true form and style of Hunter Biden. This is actually another called shot from war room. Bill Clinton was on. He did the long form interview with Joe Scarborough. I'm sure you've seen they've been rolling it out these last few days on Morning Joe and he spends what, three, four minutes saying that, well, Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong with the State Department emails. It's so embarrassing. It's such despicable groveling, even for the Clintons. Though I am glad that Morning Joe allocated some time to highlight the wonderful work that the Clinton Global Initiative and that the Clinton foundation has done. I think the people of Haiti would probably like a word with Joe Scarborough on that one. But all of that aside, Look, Steve, what you're witnessing now, we've gone from what the triggered snowflakes needing their blankets and safe spaces to now what actual blanket preemptive pardons. It fits into what we're talking about with January 6th. It fits into the Anthony Fauci testimony that I was just talking about. There's always a pattern where they start with these limited hangouts. They say we're crazy for saying these people committed the crimes that they did indeed commit. Yes, Liz Cheney perjured herself. She helped deraile legal representation illegally. She should face disbarment for what she did with Cassidy Hutchinson. But we were mocked and ridiculed. We were tarred and feathered for saying the things that we did on this show that now are being proven true. Our conspiracy theories are so good, they necessitate not just pardons, but blanket preemptive pardons. I don't even know if that's historically a precedent that's ever been set, but it shows you that we've been right all along and it's just absolutely mind blowing. Of course the media is going to provide them cover for it. But I think, frankly, my takeaway from that Benny Thompson interview, even though he's saying, well, if, you know, Joe Biden were to give me one, all the qualifiers, you could tell in the language he's blinking a thousand times a minute, I would maybe accept one. These people are busy over there at the White House or wherever they're running this thing from, probably the basement. They're asking, they're begging for these pardons. Right. The most innocent people in the world need the most copious amounts of pardon. It really isn't a level of gaslighting that I don't even think this country has seen. But I think Benny Thompson is probably, honestly not even that high on our list. I know we can't say enemies list, so we won't use that word, but metaphorically, an enemies list, he's sort of a grand dune. I don't think he's really an ideological champion in any Right. Except maybe what the militant black extremism groups that he was involved with. But no, there's so many more people that I would be focusing on. And I think Bill Clinton's pardon will probably have to go back to the late 1990s if you're picking up what I'm putting down there. But I don't think that they obviously deserve them. And hey, if they get them, then at least they can't plead the Fifth. So I guess Congress will have some nice investigations.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Natalie? No, you put up a lot of stuff on social media about the, about the. IG Report. Where do people go to get you on social media, Ma'am?

[Natalie Winters]

Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms, I will be lobbying for my own personal blanket preemptive pardon.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Great, great. Turn over at over at Piers Morgan. Fantastic. I'm sure they're not going to be inviting you back for a while, which is always a good sign.

[Natalie Winters]

Not quite. Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Next time she's going to do it just with Piers. Mano a mano. Thank you, Natalie. Incredible. So today up on Capitol Hill also, New York Times started this morning with this piece about the war in posse, how the war in posse came together with Charlie Kirk's show Poso the Great Mad Bull over at Breitbart. A lot of folks pulling together, putting their shoulder to the wheel and making sure that Pete Hexith last week was not run out of here all and I mean all of these Senate of these nominees for the cabinet positions should and they should double time this to get ready, get these folks ready for confirmation. Traditionally, the national security folks go first. They want to make sure there's a clean changeover. So by the time January 20th comes, whoever the president is has his team in place. I strongly recommend that treasury and Bobby Kennedy, all of it. I think the big five or six or seven, throw Kristi Noeman there too. And cash ought to all be set to go on 4 or 5 January. 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We're not doing this, as I said, to make you the smartest person at the Christmas party, although you may come off as that. We're doing this personally so you can think about how it impacts your own life and your family's life. And you can go over and talk to the folks at Birchgold about gold as a hedge. But also the debt ceiling comes off on January 3rd. Only the war Room posse has this kind of information because you're a cadre that's at the ramparts in January, even before the inauguration, immediately upon the swearing in of the new Congress. Boom. We're coming back from the nomination here. Now, listen, on these nominations, I want to make sure everybody understands this. The reason television, political television is kind of so immature is that so much of it depends upon the horse race. They love the horse race because it's relatively easy to report. It's kind of personalities and things are happening. You have process stories and this guy's up, this guy's down. This inner circle said this, this said that, whereas it doesn't look at the underlying forces driving things. So the horse race is what they want to do. You cut it on all the time. Who's going to be president, who's going to do never any hard work, any hard work from themselves. And more importantly, hard work for your own self. Because we're not going to change this unless the people have enough knowledge, right? And information that in the American people's common sense, as they weigh and measure it, then the sovereign will goes in a certain direction. So that's why we're adding this latest installment, Modern Monetary Theory. You don't have to have a PhD in economics. We try to make this accessible to talk about the madness and where's the madness personified? Two things today, let's connect two dots. The Azira Hedge article that just went through the first two months, the fiscal year, October, November, and said, Shazam, there's $624 billion deficit in two months. That means. Let me get my calculus into. This goes into that that many times. This goes into that that many times this goes into, oh, Steve, Might be right. It might be another trillion dollars in 100 days. It's not sustainable, people. It's not sustainable. Yeah, you can keep cranking out fiat currency. You can keep cranking it out. They keep printing it, they'll keep printing it over Federal Reserve. As long as you want to keep this long con going, they'll print it. They'll print it. The due bill is coming and the elites and the wealthy in this country aren't going to step up to the plate for their responsibility. Just like they didn't step up to the plate in 2008. If they really were an elite and deserved the special privileges that go for that, that go with that, they would have stepped up in 2008 and said, you know what? Collectively we screwed up. We got to rethink this. We will take responsibility. We will take a haircut, we won't get bailed out. We'll make sure the little guy's taken care of. We will take responsibility and we will take accountability. Did that happen? No, it did not. And that led. Folks, that's the railhead of the populist movement. And you know why I knew that? Because in history it's always been, you have a financial collapse like that, you're always going to have a reaction of a populist movement. Because guess what? Throughout history, I'm going to give you some pattern recognition. The little guy always gets screwed. And eventually the little guy sits there and goes, hey, you know what? I'm looking around, there's a lot of little guys and a lot of little guys are getting screwed. Why don't we bind together and maybe they'll hear us? And often that doesn't turn out so well. I thought a random example, the French Revolution, so let's avoid that. And that's that kind of seething anger that's right below the surface and it's seething. This is what led to. And there's still this confusion of the guy heroes, the guy terrible. What's not the American way is to lay in wait, lie in wait for somebody, jump out at point blank range, shoot him in the back and kill him graveyard dead right there. Boom. That seething anger. I'm not justifying the act at all. I'm just telling you there's seething anger underneath us, like they're seething anger on the economics and lived experience is just real. American people can't quite articulate what the problem is, but they know it is a problem. This is why Obama was a candidate of hope and change didn't happen Right track, wrong track. At the end of his term, in the summer of 16, when Donald Trump was running, I kept pointing to that number. Two thirds went there. Two thirds thought the country was, wait for it, on the wrong track. After eight years of Obama, Why? The solution for the bailout of 2008 was a neoliberal neocon solution because Obama was kind of over his head. He ran as an anti war populist in the primary, took the Clintons on. Those are lessons I took to apply the Trump campaign. Hey, he beat them. I think we can beat him too. But he didn't govern like that because he was handed a crash by Bush and Geithner and Bernanke and all the neoliberals on Wall street, all the guys on Wall street, that's what you gotta do. You gotta bail out the system. You have to bail out the elites. The system must survive. This is why today, in 2024, we're the anti systems players and we're winning, we're ascendant. And they're all sitting there on the msnbc. What happened? We thought it was going to be abortion. We thought it was. Democracy is on the ballot. Your version of democracy was on the ballot. And you got a democracy suppository, Naomi. And one of the things I can't articulate is, hey, I think something's wrong with this whole biopharmaceutical. The insurance too high. I don't understand what's going on Now I think you're getting to the point. Tell me with one of the war room posse under Amy Kelly, the great work he did on the Pfizer documents, there's a letter laying out a bunch of evidence facts they sent to my good buddy Kris Kobach, the Attorney General of the great state of Kansas. Can you walk us through this? Because I think this one might be a tad explosive, ma'am.

[Naomi Wolf]

It should be. So we've updated the war room posse about the fact that Pfizer, from their internal documents, delayed reporting the deaths of eight subjects, people who died with COVID who were vaccinated. And they delayed reporting it in spite of their own protocols that said they had to report deaths immediately so that they could misinform the FDA in order to get the emergency use authorization that allowed the rollout of the vaccine that we all know about. So what this letter does, written by Dr. Jayanthi Kunidasan, one of our very distinguished volunteers, an anesthetist and perioperative physician, she drilled down very deeply, like forensic journalism, you know, matched with medical knowledge. Into one of the reports of one of these deaths and it's very disturbing. So she's alleging that the fda, I'm sorry, that Pfizer failed to disclose to the FDA the death of a Kansas participant. The death reportedly occurred 41 days after this woman received her second vaccine dose. And that the failure to report this was at a critical juncture at which the eua, the emergency use authorization, would either be given or not given. And that what's very, very disturbing is the way Jayanthi Kunidasan drills into this poor woman's horrible mistreatment leading to her, I would say murder. You know, I'm not a lawyer, but it sure looks like murder to me. Her death by Pfizer. So she's a 63 year old Kansas woman and she was a participant in this trial at a research site in Newton, Kansas. Now this woman was not healthy to start out with. She was very frail to start out with and anyone could tell if they were looking with the eyes of medicine instead of treating her like a lab rat. Her preexisting conditions included hypertension, that's high blood pressure and depression. But Pfizer decided that she met the trial's inclusion criteria and she got the first dose and the second dose and she passed away on October 19, 2020. So she was mildly overweight, she had a body mass index of 27, she was postmenopausal. Depression, hypertension, osteoporosis, rheumatoid arthritis, sleep apnea, multiple medications she was on before getting the injections. Her medications including trazodone, sertoline for depression, pregabalin and Baclofen for degenerative disc disease, as well as amplodipine and hydralazine for hypertension. So a bucket of serious severe medications that she was on for her multiple health conditions. She completed the screening process, they said, sure, come on in, be our guinea pig. And received her first dose on the 18th of August 2020 and the second on the 8th of September. And then she came for one month, follow after dose two on the 7th of October, and then she died 41 days after receiving the second dose on the 19th of October. And that was 12 days after her planned follow up visit. So the emergency contact told the clinical site of Pfizer right about the death, in other the death of this woman. In other words, the emergency contact was so disturbed by the apparent cause effect of the woman gets her second dose, then passes away that the emergency contact reported it to Pfizer and then our Researchers alleged to AG Kobach that there was a 37 day delay in Pfizer officially documenting her death. And this again violated Pfizer's own protocols. And her death and autopsy find not only that were not disclosed during the vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory committee meeting on December 10, 2020, the important meeting, critical meeting at which the FDA evaluated Pfizer's data for emergency use authorization approval. In other words, the woman's dead, she's been autopsied. There was so much alarm about her death that her emergency contact told Pfizer, you know, Pfizer withheld the information from the FDA at the meeting at which Pfizer's looking at the documents to assess things like, do we give an emergency use authorization? Will this kill people? Right. So what it does to withhold her death as well as the other seven deaths is, as I've shared with you all before, it allowed Pfizer falsely to claim to the FDA and to the world that you're better off with a vaccine than without. If they had correctly totaled those deaths and included them appropriately, they'd have had to tell the FDA and the world that you're more likely to die and be hospitalized with the injection than without. But essentially, they hid this woman's death in a horrible way along with seven other people. And here I wish that you could see, there's a chart like these Mengele type charts. Sorry, there we go. And what you probably can't see very clearly there is did Pfizer have knowledge of the death? Yes, yes, yes, yes. All the way down. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Pfizer had knowledge of those deaths and didn't report them. And so this has now gone to the Kansas Attorney General. It's a Kansas woman who was killed by Pfizer in Kansas. And Pfizer essentially hid her body from the government, you know, not.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Just let me ask about this and correct me if I'm wrong, as you describe this woman with all the different medications, things she's taken, the vaccine and look, I'm not vaxxed, you're not vax. And we went through this, but for people with comorbidities, and it sounded like this woman was Mark 1 mod 0 of comorbidities. Even you would say that this, the vaccine, even in its experimental stage, knowing what we knew at the time, she should take. Correct. No normal human should take it, no child should take it. But there were people, obese, elderly, and a woman like this, that, that I'm not trying to denigrate her, but she seems like a medical train wreck. And a lot of it, I'm sure it's not even her fault, just things she was born with. But isn't this vaccine kind of made for those people?

[Naomi Wolf]

I'm not smiling because it's funny. I'm smiling at your Socratic method because you must know that my answer is going to be, at this point, categorically not. And the reason categorically not is they're supposed to be doing science, right? And science means you correctly add up the numbers. So at that point, they knew that it was more likely to hurt her than help her. And.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, now, you can't trip up Naomi. She's got that good Yale college logic. She and Besant. You and Besant. Were you and Besant the same year, or is he much older, or were you close to Besant?

[Naomi Wolf]

Gosh, I don't know. I don't know him personally. I'm not aware that we've ever met. I don't know what year he graduated.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I think he graduated near your year, I think. Go back to that. Hit the rewind button right there. You're saying it's fraudulent. From the beginning, the experiment was fraudulent. They should have called it off immediately or close to it. What the evidence shows you is that they knew this was a beta test, or whatever you want to call it, and the test was not going well. They knew that early on, and they should have called this thing off and alerted the public. Is that your stand, Naomi?

[Naomi Wolf]

Well, I can't say that about this particular case because this was still in the run up to the emergency use authorization. But the reason that you reveal the data correctly to the FDA in applying for an emergency use authorization is. Is so that the FDA can make the very, very serious, very rare exception to normal trials for medical products. Right? I mean, usually a vaccine goes through 10 to 15 years of testing to make sure that it's safe and effective. The emergency use authorization is basically a, you know, kind of all bets are off, Hail Mary, pass. Fine, fine, fine. You know, we've looked at the data you've got to date, and. And there's enough to reassure us that it's worth the risk of untold side effects we don't know about. Because it's an emergency. Right? That's the reason for this exemption to the normal process. But what you have to understand is they withheld the killing of this woman from the FDA at the point at which the FDA is trying to figure out is it safe for everyone else. So I can't. You know, she knew that she was volunteering for an experimental.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Are you. Hang on. Are you asserting. Are you assert. Are you asserting that she just died in the process of taking this vaccine, or are you asserting that the vaccine. You think there's evidence to show the vaccine killed her and you want Kobach, the attorney general, to investigate that, or is it just that she died from all this other stuff while she was taking the vaccine?

[Naomi Wolf]

It sure looks. I mean, and so just a note. It's Jayanthi Kunidasan who wrote the letter to the attorney general. I think she was right to do so. A woman died of horrible medical maltreatment, and her death wasn't properly disclosed. Wasn't lawfully disclosed in the state of Kansas. To me, it looks like the vaccine killed her. But what's more important is her emergency contact, which usually means in these records, her doctor was so concerned about the fact that she died shortly after getting the second shot. I mean, she was frail, but there's nothing that indicates that she would have died of high blood pressure. She would have died of depression or the other conditions she had at that moment. So I guess the reason I'm kind of answering this way is we can't see her autopsy report. They didn't submit the autopsy report. They didn't enclose it in time. Right. Right. For the FDA to review it. So it certainly looked to her doctor like the vaccine killed her. But the point is, that's supposed to be assessed by the FDA before rolling it out for everyone else. And remember, they decided that it didn't work to stop Covid. So, no, she wouldn't have been better off in any universe taking this injection.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Naomi, where do people go to get all this information and to find out more about daily clout and the effort you guys have going on over there?

[Naomi Wolf]

Thank you. Go order this. Book the Pfizer papers right away, please, on Amazon and come to DailyCloud IO support us, please. We really need your help. There are a million documents and we can't dive into them. New ones that have been released without support. And then go over to App Outspoken if you want to follow my work and support us there as well. Thank you, Posse. Thank you, Steve.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Naomi, real quickly, social media, where do people. What's your handle?

[Naomi Wolf]

Thank you. Aomyarwolf on X and on getter and on all the platforms. Pretty much, yeah.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Naomi Wolf, thank you very much. Appreciate you.

[Naomi Wolf]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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