Josh Macias (2:40)

With our halfway house battle buddies.

Ben Berkwam (2:42)

We're down in on YOUR six Relief, helping with North Carolina with those that are homeless. And we're helping to do the good work a Vets first and America first policies. We're making sure right now that everyone is in there is getting out and we're fighting the good fight for any of the issues resolved to get them out of there right now.

Steve Bannon (3:00)

And again, we just got word and who knows if Nichols was watching your show. Breaking news. About 18 minutes ago, Judge Nichols finally signed those orders. And within the next few minutes, these guys, 15 of them at least, should be getting released. It's unknown, maybe more will be a part of that, but at least those first 15 will be released.

Ben Berkwam (3:20)

Okay, Ben, hang around, talk to producer Cameron. As soon as we know that's Judge Nichols, finally got the heads up and he's signing orders. Ben, we'll come back to you with this anymore release. Thank you, brother. Thank you, sir. Let's go to the great Julie Kelly. Julie Kelly joins us. The person had more than anything to do with these hostages, these prisoners being released, her coverage over the last four years and what President Trump's team thinks of her coverage in these stories one after the other. Julie, your thoughts today? Ma'am.

Julie Kelly (3:55)

To see the D.C. gulag never. Steve, when I started reporting on this and covering, I think letting people know for the first time that the DC that the mayor had set aside part of the DC Jail just for Trump supporters and they were being hauled there from prisons from after their arrest, their homes across the country to go there. So seeing them being released after President Trump's courageous, remarkable decision last night, never my wildest dreams would I ever have thought that something like this would be happening. I'm not sure what the holdup is with Judge Nichols, your judge, so. But obviously they're all going to be released. And also remarkable to see J6ers who have been released in other prisons instead of going directly home, going to Washington to support those who are still behind bars.

Ben Berkwam (4:53)

Julie Kelly, Tom Fenton was on today. He's saying, hey, look, the way the sloppy nature the way the the pardons were written, they have to be executed by Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche in the team Team Trump over the Justice Department. Tom Fenton is one of the most revered guys in our movement over at Judicial Watch is advising President Trump say, hey, look, particularly the J6 committee, which he thinks is the worst of the worst, that that should not be effectuated and that we should move forward immediately on a massive investigation that people should immediately have. Johnson should put a vote up for the House that should be voted down of anything. The historical committee should be revolution purposed now, but in addition, that the pardon should be junked and the investigation into their crimes and the crimes of their staff. Staff members of J6 understand people are going to be looking into the details in depth. Your thoughts, ma'am?

Julie Kelly (5:51)

Well, absolutely. And I think that they should pursue their own investigation into January 6th. All the unanswered questions. Why did they never find the pipe bomber? What happened to all the deleted Secret Service texts, including those belonging to disgrace former chief Kim Cheadle, who has had protective services that day? How many FBI informants or otherwise undercover officers from multiple law enforcement agencies? We know that they were there. In what capacity were they there? Who told them to go there? Were they acting like Trump supporters? Did they incite the crowd? We also have evidence of that. So they need a full scale investigation into January 6th. And of course I would still continue investigating the committee and the crimes that were committed there. Obviously they will be protected from criminal liability, but that does not mean you could take the ball right up to the one yard line and advance it there and leave it there for the world to see. The report needs to be rescinded.

Ben Berkwam (6:54)

No, no, no, no. Yeah. Tom Fitton saying something different. Tom Fitton saying, hey, if the Justice Department does not execute and effectuate those pardons, that, hey, they can bring them up in their trials, but you should go forward. What about Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Gr, who are not covered by even the controversy of pardon. What's your recommendation to the Justice Department and President Trump about that cast of characters?

Julie Kelly (7:17)

Well, immediately open investigations into them for selective vindictive prosecution. That's a real thing. The violation, as Mike Davis has said, conspiracy to deny the rights of American citizens, which absolutely happened in this prosecution. Also, what sort of collusion, conspiracy and to that point, a conspiracy, how much did that involve the Biden White House? Joe Biden did not pardon himself. He didn't pardon White House staff like his general counsel. They were all in cahoots to systematically conspire and deny the rights of American citizens through this prosecution. And of course, Donald Trump as well. There's plenty of statutes that can be used against Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, line prosecutors, et cetera. So this, as we said this morning, Steve, this can't be the end. This is simply the beginning. The pardons that President Trump signed last night and, you know, it's amazing to see motions to dismiss existing cases. I think we talked this morning, there was a case that was supposed to go to the jury today and the new DCS attorney, Ed Martin immediately dismissed the indictment against that individual. And he gets to go home.

Ben Berkwam (8:34)

Fabulous. What amazing jury instructions are going home. Julie Kelly, where do people get you on social media, your work and efforts? This is paying off. But like I said, it's just the beginning. Now the hunters become the hunted. Julie Kelly, where do people go?

Julie Kelly (8:50)

So my substack declassified with Julie Kelly Real Clear Investigations, part of Real Clear Politics. And Julie Kelly, too, on X.

Ben Berkwam (9:01)

Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly. Thank you, ma'am. Trying to get you back on here tomorrow. President Trump, what we're going to be doing is going into a time that perfectly kind of saw President Trump wrapping up. President Trump has so much information. Let's talk about some information that came there. Number one, HB1 visas. President Trump says, I understand the arguments of both sides. I still like qualified, competent people. President Trump, love you. We got more than enough competent people here. We still, we still ask of Elon Musk or, you know, Bezos or Zuckerberg to show us any. They got millions over here. Show us any. We mean any. Show us an H1B visa that's got a billet that is that you don't have American that is qualified by either academic training or experience. Just show us. Argument's been going on for four months, by the way. The argument went back for years, back before President Trump became president in 2016. Guess what? Never showed us one. You know why? It doesn't exist. It's like a unicorn. And they keep saying they want the nomenclature. Remember how wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat and psychological and a psyop and information warfare. What did they talk about? They talk about, oh, high quality, you know, skilled workers, skilled foreign workers. No, it has nothing to do with the skill level. The skill level is the same or lower. What it is, it's quite simple. It's 1/3 to 50% less in pay for the same work. And the folks are compliant, they're indentured. Servants, they come over here and you know they're going to be compliant, living six to a house, six to a condo, working 20 hours a day as indentured servants. We settled the situation about slavery and indentured servitude in, I don't know, the 19th century, I think we had a thing called the Civil War. Memory serves me correctly. We can't be doing that in the 21st century. We're not going to let the techno feudalists create more serfs, digital serfs. We don't need that. What we need is free men and free women holding those jobs for the President. Once again, President Trump, we love you, we support you, we're your platform. But simple, shut the program down. Deport immediately all H1B visa holders, unless you can show any of them that can do a job that an American can't do. If not, they all go home and fill those jobs immediately with, wait for it, American citizens. How's that good? President Trump did sign an eo. We're trying to go through it, but I think it's made a court and Twitter and going through this thing, I think it's made the whole process, H1B is more difficult. Right now I'm seeing tweets and analysis attached to those tweets saying, hey, people would have to be here 21 plus years now to get a green card. We're liking that, but we'd like more just to terminate the program. A complete 100% moratorium on all underlying, all immigration. Every immigration. There's no legal immigration in this country. They either come invited up by the Biden regime, the globalists into the country, I don't know, 12 or 15 million to suppress wages of African Americans and Hispanics that are kind of stuck in these lower skilled jobs. It's to suppress your wages. They brag about it. The Federal Reserve brags about it. President Trump has initiated the program to turn that around, but there's no legal. Every visa program is totally. First off, they're obscure. If it's good, they'd be out there. You can understand it. Not, they obscure it. It's so complicated. Why? Complexity is to obscure it from American citizens so people can't understand it. That's what has to be a moratorium. Just have a moratorium six months and then we come out to the American people, explain what these. And the American people support. Yes, that's smart. We need these people right now. They say we need all these great engineers, everything like that. Well, look, the paperclip program brought in 1200 Russian engineers among of German rocket scientists. Okay, we got to the Mercury program and the Apollo program. I get it. Maybe those folks are out there. I also don't like the concept that we got to suck in the best and the brightest. We don't. That is kind of intellectual imperialism. As nationalists, as populist nationalists, we want all the world to thrive. We want every nation on Earth to thrive. We want every nation on Earth to find its own destiny, its own manifest destiny. There's only one way you can do it. They're great folks come here, right? Instead of putting. When they go to the great universities, instead of putting a. Was it a green card stapling to it. We have a recommendation. President Trump, in full love, brotherhood and support, put an exit visa. 30 days, go home, make your country great again. And for community colleges and technical colleges, how about this? Not one foreign national in any of those schools. That is only for American citizens. You want to break the apartheid state that is Silicon Valley. Let's be frank. Let's be brutally frank. The progressive left, because they're all progressive Democrats. They're all progressive Democrats. Their Damascene moment, their road to Damascus, came at about, I don't know, 10:00, 11:00 on the 5th of November, Eastern Standard Time, when Pennsylvania went to President Trump and it was all over. Game, set, match. Big old long face on. On Rachel Maddow. Big tear coming down. Joy Ann Reid. That's when Bezos and Zuckerberg, they all became maga. They all became maga. All the oligarchs, all the brologarchs, all became. Elon was with us beforehand. He wrote checks. He put his shoulder to the wheel, gets a place at the table. That table shouldn't be in the West Wing. Table shouldn't be in the Cabinet Room. He shouldn't be at the head of the table, but he should have a voice. He got that. We're big boys and girls, but we're never going to back off this. American citizens, like President Trump's concept of trade is America is like the golden door. It's a preferred. You got to pay a premium like a sports seat or for a theater. Right. Preferred to get through the golden doors before. You just announced 25% tariffs on Mexico, 25% tariffs on China. Think 10% tariffs on Canada. Those are our three largest trading partners. I think $2 trillion. If you add that up. Think that's the math. I might be wrong. It's a lot of money. The same thing should be for American citizens. American citizens. You Get a special deal. Why do you have a special deal? Well, let me think about this. Oh yeah, that's right. The entire world's economic system, the post war international rules based order that's gamed every day by the globalists, gamed every day by the lords of easy money on Wall street in the city of London. You prop it up. It's your decency, your hard work, your self organizing. It's the Kiwanis club, it's the Girl scouts, it's the little leagues, it's the churches, it's the cops, it's the teachers, it's the nurses. You. You are the full faith and credit of the United States government. It's not the ftc, it's not the sec. It's not the Federal Reserve, it's not the Treasury Department. You are the full faith and credit of the United States government. Of the United States. This is why this market's so liquid. Why do they want to buy bonds over it? Why do they want to buy stocks over here? Because you know what? They know they're going to get their money back. They may make a bad investment, but by and large they're going to get their money back with a return. Why? Because of your common decency and hard work. No magic here. Oh, and oh, by the way, the trillion dollar defense bill that we just passed or the 900 billion NDAA, it's your kids. It's working class and middle class kids of every ethnicity, race, religion in this country. You're on patrol in the Hindu Kush. You're on the carrier battle groups in the Red Sea, keeping the Suez Canal open. That gets trade into Europe from the Persian Gulf. Right? For the elites at Kashta and other places live fat, dumb and happy. It's your kids in the carrier battle groups in the South China Sea. It's your sons and daughters of the 28,000 combat troops in Korea, South Korea, all of it. It's all you. You support it. The world system is supported on your shoulders. The security of the world is supported on your shoulders. In Romania right now is a brigade of 101st Airborne, sons and daughters of people listening to the show, watching the show. It's got to change. We're going to go to Mexico.

Oscar Blue Ramirez (17:24)

Oscar Blue Ramirez.

Ben Berkwam (17:25)

Oscar, first off, tell us about the CP1. Everything has happened. You called it. But also, brother, what's going to happen when President Trump slaps a 25% tariff on everything coming from Mexico? Sir?

Josh Macias (17:38)

Well, they need to understand, Steve, we have been talking about it, that if the Mexican government does not stop the flow of enormous fentanyl that is coming in through the United States borders. And also the massive flow. Just yesterday, a massive caravan left the south border again, more than 2,000. So it needs, you know, the pedal needs to be on this, on this 25% tariffs. They need to be implemented. Whether they like it or not. These dirty politicians in Mexico, they need to learn. You need to hit them in the pockets and make them understand that like they say in the United States, Steve, there's a new sheriff in town and they're calling the shots. And they need to understand that they need to slow down the pace.

Ben Berkwam (18:17)

What about, what about this executive order that was signed to make the. To designate the cartels as terrorist organizations? I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Oscar, you've talked about this a long time. I think this gives us the ability to have interdiction into, given certain types of situations and things, you have to qualify for that. This gives the ability for paramilitary and maybe special forces interdiction into Mexico itself. Is that your understanding of it, sir?

Josh Macias (18:46)

It has some parameters, but also it has to have some arrangement with the Constitution of Mexico. Ultimately, that's the number one situation where it has to be designated and talk to the Mexican president. But the most important thing, Steve, is that the United States of America and the Trump administration has the most power right now. They have the two Kimpings in their possession. One of them is El Mayo Zambada, that is the campaign of the Sinalo cartel. And the other one is El Chapo Guzman. They have the power to find out and to take over, you know, basically where these bank accounts held, the massive flow of synthetic drugs that is coming to the United States of America and basically find out who is controlling the country of Mexico. The Trump administration has. Nobody in the United States of America in history, has never had this amount of power over the demands and also over the information that is coming from the Mexican country.

Ben Berkwam (19:33)

Steve, one of the ones you talked about for years, I actually had some people in Canada today and they said, Oscar's right, that the Compact for Global Migration they believe is destroying Canada in the way it's being interpreted by the Canadian government, by Trudeau and these leftists. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think of all the action he took with who, all of it. We did not extract ourselves from the Compact on Global Migration, did we? Or did I miss that one?

Josh Macias (20:01)

That's the number one thing that Donald Trump needs to do immediately. I don't know if he has done it or not. But they need to get out of the Global Compact on Migration because this basically facilitates the people that enter into whatever non port of entry into whatever port of entry into the United States of America. The Global Compact on Migration has been just a complete disaster, not only in Europe, but also Barack Obama brought it to the west and you can actually see the collateral damage that it has caused not only in Central America, South America and to the United States of America and needs to get out of it immediately. This will habilitate the United States government to take over and have power over these NGOs that they're basically now they are going to start doing all these class action lawsuits because of these international humanitarian rights. So you need to get out of the Global Compact of Migration, tell the United nations you're not in power of the United states borders, the OIMs and the UNHCRs to tell them we are not going to give you funds anymore and you're not, you don't have the authority of the United States voters.

Ben Berkwam (20:57)

One thing that President Trump took of your action items, Oscar, that you've told us for years, the CPB1 app. Tell us what's the impact been in Mexico this shut off immediately upon President Trump taking the oath of office yesterday. What was the impact?

Josh Macias (21:12)

Steve, we broke the story around 12 o'clock in the Eastern time, Donald Trump was sworn in around 9 o'clock West coast time. I'm located in the west coast time. At 9:01 Steve, the application was shut down. You had three time frames of people that they were going to go in under the CBP1 app. One of them was at 8:00 in the morning they went in and they took a long time for them to process. And at 12 o'clock they were processed out. They were not eligible to go in. And then there were other appointments at 12 o'clock and then at 6 o'clock and you can actually see behind me, Steve, these people are not eligible anymore. To enter under the CBP1 app. There was around 250 to 300 individuals which they were waiting here and on their mobile phones. They started receiving this email from the CBP1 app that the basically the application was shut down, that they were not eligible to process any sort of type of documentation. Also this CBP1 app also was applicable all the way to the side of the border in Tapachula Chapas where we have documented massive caravans. All of the people on the caravan, they have, you know, they just noticed that they had this application that it said the CBP one has been shut down. It has been canceled.

Ben Berkwam (22:26)

So, Oscar, you've gone from Darien Gap all the way up. You've caught the beach. You've then gone at the northern border. You've gone up and down from Brownsville all the way to all the camps all the way to Tijuana. Give us your assessment. What is the feel right now of what's happening? They've closed the, I guess El Paso and some of the other crossings. They shut the app down. What's the sense with all your contacts, relationship, you've been hunted by the cartels down there. What's the sense? Do people realize this is definitive, that President Trump has sent the military to the border and all this nonsense about the invasion of the United States is over?

Josh Macias (23:00)

Now they're realizing, Steve, that the immigrants are actually understanding that this is a harsh, you know, for them. It is a harsh reality for the United States of America. They had it, you know, enough is enough. And now they are understanding that this is a reality. The CBP one, it is, you know, it's ending. They're sending a National Guard to secure the borders. And one thing that I wanted to add, Steve, yesterday the director of attention of migrants came out from this particular port of entry and gave out a statement saying that more than 1 million applications of CBP ones they are in the north borders that connect to the United States of America. And after that, he has said all of this. It is Biden's fault. Just hours after he gave that statement, he was fired, Steve. He was removed and he was removed from his position of being the director of attention of migrants. This is the aggressiveness that this the leftist government in Mexico. They know who was at fault and they know who needs to be held accountable for this disaster of this CBP1 and this disaster that is continuous over here in Mexico. Steve.

Ben Berkwam (24:03)

Oscar, tremendous reporting. You put yourself in harm's way. There's so much more to report. Social media, where do people go to get our own? Oscar Blue Ramirez, sir.

Josh Macias (24:14)

Thank you. Like always is on is an honor, sir. Oscar Blue Ramirez, an exer and you know, in real America as voice news, you can find me, sir. Thank you so much for the invitation.

Ben Berkwam (24:22)

Thank you. Thank you, brother. Be, be safe.

Josh Macias (24:27)

Yes, sir.

Ben Berkwam (24:28)

For four years, five years, those guys put themselves in harm's way. First guys go to the daring gap. Unbelievable. It's paid off. It's paid off big time. Just incredible. Ben Burke, Ben Berkwam is still down. Still down. I'm not going to Go to him yet? We're going to go to him in a second. Ben, still down there. Blockbuster news from the presser. Remember President Trump, he comes into the Roosevelt Room, he's announcing a $500 billion infrastructure deal on AI and I realize a lot of us are quite concerned about guys like softbank stroking checks, because with checks come influence and power. And, you know, we're still to be determined whether we think this foreign capital is good. However, the point, and I think the point President Trump's trying to make, is that people around the world want to come because they understand the United States is getting turned around. That's the big message. They want to be part of this. They want to invest in this. They want to back this. Now it's up to us to make the decision. Do you want additional foreign capital? Are these projects great or not great? Hey, that's all a process. It's called capitalism. Right? We'll work through it. President Trump today, though, a couple of blockbusters on trade and tariff. Blockbuster on the H1B visas talked about. He batted back all these issues about the, about J6. Remember J6 and Julie Kelly. Her reporting over the last four years on J6 has been extraordinary. Tonight, the political prisoners hopefully will all be out. They're obviously trying to slow walk it. We're gonna get all over this. These pardons by Trump, I mean, pardons by Biden, particularly for Milley. Our strongest recommendation is General Milley should be called to active duty tonight and tomorrow they should empanel under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, a military tribunal to pursue charges of treason against General Milley. As we've talked about for over, I don't know, four years, what he did with the Chinese communist party, the PLA. In September and October and November of 2020, President Trump signed an executive order instituting the death penalty for any treason people found guilty of treason inside the United States government. I think he's playing hardball now. Just unbelievable. Johnny Khan, the great Johnny Khan with the song American Heart. John Khan had his house burnt to the ground to ashes. And Pacific Palisades, one of the great ones. Johnny Khan, Andrew Breitbart's partner. The anthem of the Tea Party. We love it. Make sure birchgold.com go there today. Birchcold.com Bannon the end of the Dollar Empire the sixth free installment. Modern Monetary Theory. We need you folks to understand this because if we talk about debt ceiling, we're talking about deficits, we're talking about the trillion dollars every hundred days. You got to understand It a radical idea nobody thought through. Now we have $300 trillion worldwide and we're getting ready for the world's biggest margin call. Understand the impact. Short break. Back to the worm in a moment.

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Ben Berkwam (32:01)

War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, welcome back. We had a big impromptu press conference by the President United States in the Roosevelt Room. President Trump dropping one bomb after the other. You saw the press trying to try to gang tackle him on J6 prisoners still coming out of the gulag tonight. And we'll copy more of that and probably get to Ben Berkram tomorrow. Big news for this audience. President Trump announced, guess what? He's stopping in Carolina on the way out. As we have strongly recommended. The folks in Appalachia deserve to actually have their concerns about no FEMA money. They're sitting down there in six degree weathers. Intense. They've been there for months and months and months. This is political persecution by the Biden regime. Absolutely. And President Trump, I think he's going to turn California red. I believe there should be investigation immediately on Newsom of these guys for criminal negligence. Mayor Bass Newsom, the whole lot of them. People have had their lives and it's never coming back. If you know those neighborhoods of Pacific Palisades, these beautiful little villages, look, it's all filled with progressives, but they're American citizens, right? They're Our brothers and sisters. It's. But it's devastating. Those. There's never. Palisades is never coming back to what it was, ever. And certainly not with the people there. They'll scatter to the winds because it's going to take decades to get that mess sorted out. President Trump's going to go to L. A. Drop in bombs. 25% tariff on China. Boy, you think they're choking in Beijing right now? I don't think that fixed the business model. I'd like to know that. He had a great conversation with Xi the other day. Oh, by the way, 25% tariffs across the board. 25% tariffs in Mexico across the board. I think Mexico better get the message. Maybe you start taking care of the cartels yourself. Maybe you should define them as a terrorist organization. Just saying. And, of course, talked about H1BS. President Trump. You know, the conversation. I hear both arguments, but we need good people. I got it. We got good people here. President Trump. Would President Trump. His actions speak louder than his words? President Trump. Executive order make it much more difficult to effectuate the H1B visas to back up the American worker. Let's go to Michael Lindell. Talk about workers. Minnesota, are they still trying to put you out of business? You got another audit today, Lindell. I need. I need a flannel. I don't. We don't. We don't sleep on stinking satin sheets in the war room. It's flannel sheets. Work sheets for working people. You got. You got it. You got. You got sheets for me. You got pillows for me. You got crosses for me. Before that radical attorney general in Minnesota put you out of business for setting up a Christian charity that takes people off of drugs like it did you, you know, embracing God. Change your life. Change you from a degenerate gambler. Degenerate gambler and drug addict. That picture. You look bad. And now you're a man of Christ. You're a man of God. Is the attorney general trying to put you out of business, sir?

Mike Lindell (34:57)

Absolutely is. In fact, I'm still in D.C. i'm going to be heading back to Minnesota and to finish this with him. It's. It's disgusting, Steve. But I do want to say, spending the last three or four days here in D.C. the number one request for our products was the. My cross. I talked to a lot of people from the war room posse. So that's what we're doing with the. The microses, everybody. You guys get 30% off. Exclusive. This is a war room exclusive. I talked To a lot of you guys while I was here. And none of you, none of them had them yet. But you guys have been just getting all these bought for the. For the promo code war room. And you guys, if you go to the website there, you're gonna see the crosses right there. A lot of you asked for my book. My book's there. But then we got all the 20, 25 towels that came in. You guys brought that up, too when I talked to you all. I have the towels. All the new colors are in 2998. That's a war room exclusive. And then we have our clearance event we're having and we have our mega sale. Not to be confused with mega, but mega sale. So all of this here is a war room mega sale that we're putting on for this weekend and for this whole week. And promo code war room, you guys. And Steve, I want to say too, everyone was asking me about what I did all this weekend. You guys can check that out. Any of the social media platforms. I posted it on every one of them. Or you can go to lindelltv.com and.

Ben Berkwam (36:34)

Check it out there. Hang on.

Lord Glassman (36:37)

Hold it.

Ben Berkwam (36:38)

Time out. Did you get any of the balls? Just a question, yes or no. Did you get any of the balls? Yeah.

Mike Lindell (36:44)

Liberty ball. Yes.

Ben Berkwam (36:46)

I don't know. I guess it's good. I heard it was a three hour wait.

Mike Lindell (36:49)

Oh, yeah, it was.

Ben Berkwam (36:51)

You were in a tuxedo. You were in a tuxedo.

Mike Lindell (36:54)

I was in a tuxedo. I probably took 7,000 pictures outside in the cold, Steve. I kept everybody entertained.

Lord Glassman (37:05)

Right, right.

Ben Berkwam (37:06)

Keep warm with Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell, we love you, brother. We'll have you on the morning show. We miss you on the morning show. They were so jammed with prisoners coming out. President Trump had just got too jammed. So appreciate you and we'll see you tomorrow morning.

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All right, thanks, guys. Promo code war room.

Ben Berkwam (37:24)

Thank you. Get the cross. You get the. You get the flannel sheets, the pillows, all of it. And Ben Burkhram will be on there anymore. Okay, Ben. And by the way, tomorrow we'll talk to Ben. He's gonna be doing double duty. He'll be down at the gulag with the prisoners. But we're also going to try to get the North Carolina folks from Appalachia on to make sure that they understand. I know they understand now, but that President Trump is heading their way. This is going to be on Friday, so we'll have wall to wall coverage on Friday. President Trump's historic trip to the ravaged Parts of Appalachia in North Carolina and then out to Los Angeles to Palisades. It will be a historic trip. President Trump, his first trip is to have the back of the American people honored. Now to have a honored guest. Normally when, normally we normally when we have guests on the politics side from the United Kingdom, we have, we have Nigel Farage and the folks at Reform in Ukiput. Nigel introduced me, we, there was a party, we were one of the co hosts the other night for Nigel in honor of Nigel and the Reform movement here in Washington D.C. the top of the Hay Adams Hotel. He introduced me to Lord Glassman, who's been kind of a hero of mine and author. You're actually not Ukip. In fact, you're not a Tory. We're pretty honored to have first socialist, first laborer. You're the author of Blue Labor. But you also are very close to one of my heroes, Mike Michael Lynn, the hell to Pay. And Michael Lynn's a great guy. You might have to stay a little close to that. Mic from Here's a question. Yeah, tell us what, why is Nigel Farage at Reform? And he tells me, he says, bannon, the one guy you got to meet in the United Kingdom is Lord Glassman, a Jewish socialist, right? So he says he's the working man's best friend. Walk me through why is that?

Lord Glassman (39:16)

Well, you know, you have inheritance in life. I was, I was born a Jew, I'll always be a Jew. I support Tottenham Hotspur and I was born into a labour family. So I'm not, I'm not a liberal. That's the important thing. I don't renounce my inheritance. And labor was, is a magnificent thing. Steve if you look at the labour movement, a Christian movement for the working man called itself labor, elevated the condition of the working class in savage conditions. Enclosures, forced industrialization, pauper's graves, the labor movement and an alliance between the Catholic Church and the non conformists. They built the burial societies, the cooperative burial societies.

Ben Berkwam (39:59)

I mean what were the cooperative burial societies? Tell people what that was.

Lord Glassman (40:02)

It used to be the case that in industrialized when England was industrializing, Britain as a whole, actually working people were just thrown into a pit when they died. They had had a pauper's grave, it was called. They were just thrown into a pit. And what they did was they built an organization, dues paying organization called the burial society. And it meant they had the honor of a Christian burial when they it was the first time in British history that Catholics, non conformists could be buried in the Same plot, you know, so it brought class solidarity. But the point is the dignity and death was so fundamental to them in their lives. So that's just one aspect of the origins.

Ben Berkwam (40:48)

Talk about. Also because a lot of folks here don't understand Winston Churchill. In May of 1940, right after France fell and it looked like the whole project was going to collapse. People wanted. The Tories wanted to. Wanted Lord Halifax. They wanted Halifax and the royal family wanted Lord Halifax, whether he was going to cut a deal with the Nazis and save the empire. But. But Churchill. Churchill became the leader because it was Labor. Working class people in labor. The same people that vote back Nigel Farage on Brexit.

Lord Glassman (41:23)

Absolutely.

Ben Berkwam (41:24)

Walk through that connection.

Lord Glassman (41:26)

Well, you've got it. There was a big appeasement movement in the conservative Party Party. Their peace. Peace. Peace.

Ben Berkwam (41:33)

Peace at any price.

Lord Glassman (41:34)

Yeah. And well, they, you know, I think Neville Chamberlain.

Ben Berkwam (41:38)

Peace in our time.

Lord Glassman (41:39)

Exactly.

Ben Berkwam (41:39)

He was the lead. And there's arguments that they needed time to rearm. They knew they made mistakes, but they didn't want. They didn't want to fight.

Lord Glassman (41:45)

They weren't rearming and they. And they weren't building up our armed forces. It was labor that chose Churchill. Labor said it was him. It was. Then the leader in 45, Clement Attlee became essentially the deputy prime minister. Very important person was Ernest Bevin.

Ben Berkwam (42:01)

Yes.

Lord Glassman (42:02)

Ernest Bevin was the leader of the largest democratic free and democratic trade union in the world. Was then the transport General workers and directly in partnership with Teamsters here, by the way. That was the origin.

Ben Berkwam (42:15)

Is this. Is this because the to back. Was this because of infiltration into labor movement by Marxists or neo Marxists and the support of the Soviet Union at the time? Or is this. Why did Labor. Why did labor back Churchill?

Lord Glassman (42:31)

Steve, the Soviet Union had just done the pact with Hitler. They had the ribbon trot Molotov pact. No, Bevin was a ferocious anti communist. The British working class knew they had to fight the Nazis. Labor stayed straight with them and there was no deviation. They went into the war cabinet, as I say, and Bevin became the minister of energy, then the foreign minister after the war.

Ben Berkwam (42:58)

Tell me about Halifax, the Tories, and particularly Halifax, the royal family. They were open to a potential deal with potential.

Lord Glassman (43:07)

Well, there was a split. I mean, Edward VII was open to it, but George V was certainly not.

Ben Berkwam (43:13)

And Edward, that's one of the reasons he had to go.

Lord Glassman (43:15)

He had to go. And Churchill got him out.

Ben Berkwam (43:18)

Got him out. Right. Because they realized he was too close to the Nazis.

Lord Glassman (43:21)

He was too close. He Was flirting with them all the time. Going to the embassy, having dinner.

Ben Berkwam (43:26)

Unity. Mitford's diary, in fact, has just come out. It said shockwaves. If you haven't had a chance to read the Daily Mail about that exclusive.

Lord Glassman (43:33)

The important part of that story is the labor was solid for the working class and solid for the nation.

Ben Berkwam (43:40)

Now that came all the way through to Brexit. And the same thing I told Nigel at the time, he's getting a little soft on me. Hey, just wait till the vote comes in up there.

Lord Glassman (43:47)

Wait till the vote comes in.

Ben Berkwam (43:49)

Remember, Nigel had a beer or two, and ail or two was already conditioned conceding. I said, don't concede, man. We got this.

Lord Glassman (43:55)

Look, it was a minority sport, my party. You know, the joke I always make is it's the last thing you want to hear when you go to the doctor. It's progressive. It's an illness. It go. It just saps your intelligence, saps your courage.

Ben Berkwam (44:07)

Why is that? You're. You're a lord in the House of Lords. Why is it. Why is it you would think you'd be the most progressive guy in the world? Why are you not? Why are you against the progressives?

Lord Glassman (44:18)

Oh, because progressivism is a sickness to me. It's a palsy. So when I said earlier I'm a socialist, I believe, along with Catholic social thought, that we're social beings. I think that one of the great threats to our humanity is capitalism, the commodification of the sacred, you know, human beings and of nature. A merciless rerum devorum and the best laborum ex chens. These are the foundational things. Chintessimus Honest as well.

Ben Berkwam (44:49)

Doesn't. When you say socialism, doesn't. Hasn't history proven that socialism and that communism has done more damage to working class people and killed more working class people?

Lord Glassman (45:00)

Let's say communism is a disgusting abomination. I'm just talking about remembering that we're social beings.

Ben Berkwam (45:06)

Okay?

Lord Glassman (45:06)

Okay. That we are formed by love and relationships and institutions. You can't do it all on your own. I don't go through for the individual. You've got to have love, You've got to have support. You've got to have family. So in that sense, social as in socialism. But I also think that it's absolutely vital, you know, that there are. That there's a state that can protect the workers, you know, from that exploitation. That's the whole meaning of democratic. We've just seen it with maga. What you've done is that the State was completely, completely subordinate to progressive capital.

Ben Berkwam (45:43)

And we were Progressive capital.

Lord Glassman (45:45)

Yeah. The whole alliance woke capitalism. This is what we've been living through for the last 10, 15 years.

Ben Berkwam (45:51)

Tell me about what is woke capitalism and why is it damaged the working class and middle class?

Lord Glassman (45:57)

Because first of all, it stresses division all the time. Divisions along race, divisions along age, it undermines covenantal solidarity, care for the old, all of those things. And secondly, it markets in that way. So what you had, what we have had, and it's certainly the last four or five years, yesterday was an incredibly important day.

Ben Berkwam (46:20)

But people should understand, you were invited by the Trump inaugural committee. You were the one member of the government in England that was actually invited in.

Lord Glassman (46:31)

I'm not in the government, it's got to be said. I mean, Labour Party. Labour Party Party and what's called a backbencher.

Ben Berkwam (46:35)

Right, but you were invited here for this, for this, for this event.

Lord Glassman (46:39)

Absolutely. And to me it's.

Ben Berkwam (46:42)

Do we know why? Why did President Trump, of all the people, because it was such a tight ticket, as we say. Why did he select you?

Lord Glassman (46:50)

I think because of the consistent holding of a position that's pro Brexit. I've always been extremely interested in maga, both as a political theory and also as a strategy of coalition building in which workers can again have a voice, have a say. The humiliation and degradation of the working class under the rule of the progressives makes me furious. I mean, that's the energy that I.

Ben Berkwam (47:17)

Get here in the United States. It's hard to understand someone on the left that says he's a working class based socialist. Right. It looks at the progressives as an enemy.

Lord Glassman (47:28)

They're the enemy.

Ben Berkwam (47:29)

They're the enemy. Why is that again? Because people's heads are blown up right now, I can tell.

Lord Glassman (47:34)

No, they are the enemy because they actually despise faith, they despise family, they despise love. They don't even want you to enjoy sexual intercourse with your wife. They despise love, joy, truth and beauty. And they do all the time to undermine solidarity between the races in order to build proper working class solidarity that could confront corporate capital.

Ben Berkwam (47:59)

So you're saying that they actually sow disunion between the racists? Progressive would say they're trying to bring people together. Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength. You don't buy that?

Lord Glassman (48:10)

Oh, you know, they should just call the places that they work in diversities rather than universities. You know, it's a relentless separation of people, victim status, microaggressions, power relationships. They single Handedly destroying the labor movement.

Ben Berkwam (48:31)

And so what is labor doing? Labor's in government now, but the approval having had this massive sweep, given the debacle of the Tories. Right, they're in kind of collapse now because of not getting their hands around an economic policy. Are they just another version of the neoliberal neoconservative movement that's taken over the City of London?

Lord Glassman (48:51)

Well, the City of London is a whole other story. I mean, that's also a wounded beast. Well, the conservatives won in 2019 on the basis of take back control, of getting Brexit done, of a new economic model, of leveling up. And they did, as they say in Italian, love, absolutely nothing. They just caved to the capitalist corporate class. They said that they would control immigration. I mean, it's our story too, Steve. One million migrants a year. And that's just one million. One million a year under Boris Johnson, under Liz Truss.

Ben Berkwam (49:31)

Because you're saying the Tories brought in.

Lord Glassman (49:33)

1 million a year and that's just the legal ones. Okay. I mean, this is a demographic transformation of my nation. And every time they, they started to tentatively say anything.

Ben Berkwam (49:44)

Does that make you a racist? Does it make you a nativist?

Lord Glassman (49:47)

How, how can that possibly be? I mean, this is at the crucial thing, the first principle of democracy is that you stand up for the people of your country. That's. And borders without borders, without sovereignty. Above all, Steve, you can't control capital. That's the whole socialist thing. You need to have sovereignty over your borders. And this whole fantasy world that they've lived in, progressives live in. And it's also the right has been riddled with progressivism. Talking about the conservatives, talking about Bush Republic, these people. If you bring in cheap labor, you have compliance serfs, just as you said earlier. And that's the whole model they've got. And then what they don't comprehend is that a political state is not a contractual state, it's covenantal state.

Ben Berkwam (50:37)

What do you mean by that? Covenantal versus contractual.

Lord Glassman (50:40)

Okay, Contractual is just an exchange for mutual benefit between hands. Covenantal is an intergenerational binding of mutual responsibility, one to the other. So we have covenantal elements in our state. We've got. The monarchy is a covenant institution, the army is a covenant institution. We used to have universities that had their own self government. So covenant is the only real way within sovereignty that I think that you can bind the incredible desire of capital to just get the quickest returns at the maximum possible speed, the highest returns.

Ben Berkwam (51:19)

We've got a bolt because we took President Trump's conference. Where do people, what's your social media? Where do people go and find out more about you. You've got the book out.

Lord Glassman (51:26)

Okay. So because I'm a very old fashioned.

Ben Berkwam (51:29)

Person, you know social media. Yeah.

Lord Glassman (51:31)

We've got a blue label account, there's a Blue labor Twitter account. There's a Blue labor.

Ben Berkwam (51:35)

There's our website.

Lord Glassman (51:36)

Website, yeah.

Ben Berkwam (51:37)

For under the book. Blue labor.

Lord Glassman (51:38)

Yeah.

Ben Berkwam (51:39)

You are, you are old school.

Lord Glassman (51:40)

Really old school.

Ben Berkwam (51:43)

Amazing. We're gonna have a lot more of you. You're gonna go back to England and take it in the next couple of days.

Lord Glassman (51:47)

Yeah, I'm going to New York where by the way, Steve, people's heads are turning.

Ben Berkwam (51:52)

Yeah.

Lord Glassman (51:53)

I mean I really.

Ben Berkwam (51:54)

Yes.

Lord Glassman (51:54)

Proper sea are going to have two meals with academics who let's say two months ago wouldn't have been seen dead.

Ben Berkwam (52:02)

We'll talk about this. We may be saying sometime in New York in the not too distant future.

Lord Glassman (52:06)

I would love to.

Ben Berkwam (52:07)

Okay.

Lord Glassman (52:07)

And I just want to show respect to you, Steve, really publicly. It's important that I do that.

Ben Berkwam (52:13)

No, no, no, no. You. When Nigel Farage, who very rarely tells me I've got to meet somebody and spend time with him. Nigel Farage is top but he is what we call Nigel, a saloon.

Lord Glassman (52:24)

Saloon Both. That's right. He still doesn't get it with capital Sloop.

Ben Berkwam (52:29)

That's right. The best description of Nigel I've ever heard.

Lord Glassman (52:32)

But he is really. You could see him smoking away in the pub and just going no, no. Singapore is really good.

Ben Berkwam (52:37)

We're going to be back tomorrow morning at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time. Ben Burkhraum. We're talking about North Carolina. Maybe go there to visit the folks. Also the gulags lot going on overnight. I'll be up on social media, big news I think on H1BS and also tariffs and trade. See tomorrow morning 10am you'll be back in the war room.

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