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WarRoom Battleground EP 702: Keeping Your Foot On The Gas With Deportations
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
- [00:37]
Todd Bensman
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
- [00:43]
Stephen K. Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Welcome. It's Wednesday the 5th of February in the year of our Lord 2025. Todd Bensman's going to join us in a moment. I want to get Todd to get us totally up to speed on what's happening on the ceiling of the border, the mass deportations, Mexico, all of it. And he's done a great job of pulling this information together. A couple things and Todd is a proud member of the great state of Texas. I'm going to be in Texas on Friday 28 February with Jack Bosobic and many others from the MAGA movement giving a talk to Tarrant County Republicans on the 20th of February. We got the poster up. Mo put it in. Grace will put it up in the chat. Would love to have you guys attend. Patriot Mobile is the main sponsor. Glenn Story ask me to attend. Anything Glenn Story asked for I will do because they're a company that is based upon Judeo Christian values. They're part of the alternative economy but their service is magnificent because they layer right on top of the carriers. You can get anything you want. That type of coverage they have a all citizens, all American citizens, customer support. Everything they do is reinforces your values. Stop giving your money to the big telcos that hate you. Patriot Mobile want to thank Glenn. We went down to Denton County a couple weeks ago was fantastic. Really enjoyed everybody there and particularly beforehand when I get to meet and greet folks, it's so much fun. So looking forward again in Tarrant county here, China. This is the lead story in this morning's Financial Times of London. China seeks ammunition for Trump talks by revving reviving US big tech probes. They said they're going to go after Google and others. What China is doing is looking for every tool in the toolbox because President Trump said, hey, there's going to be some tariffs here, maybe a trade war. Never know. He's trying to reach an accommodation. He understands President Trump does not want a shooting war. He wants peace and prosperity. You saw yesterday in the, in the Gaza announcement, which was kind of next level 5D chest. I was not expecting that one. You know, from our coverage yesterday, we're talking about are we going to be lighting up Persia? And I hope we're not. But you know, other people disagree with that. But we're having a good, I think, kind of robust debate and talking about Bibi's trip and President Trump, Trump drops the bomb of his vision, his vision of Gaza. In China, it's more kind of mano a mano right now. You don't want to get caught in the middle of that. Remember all the supply chains, everything President Trump and Peter Navarro tried to do during the pandemic, the supply chain still rests in China. Active pharmaceutical ingredients API I think is virtually 100% made in China. Even the generics that are made in India, which I think may be 20% of the market, China being the other 80. 100% of it's made overseas and very little to nothing here. Jacemedical.com Go check it out. Do not get caught short. Do not get caught short. In case something happens. Be ahead of the curve. Be prepared. Jace Medical, they set this business up. Dr. Shawn Rollins and the team off the book by Rosemary Gibson. We used to have Rosemary in here all the time talking about supply chains. I just saw Rosemary the other day. She's working on some fascinating things. She actually sits on the board. I think of the, of the what President Trump funded to try to bring some of the generics back here. But it'll still be relatively small. Go to jace medical.com promo code Bannon get a discount. Check it out today. Todd Bensman, Mexico first question. 15 days into this thing, 16 days into is the border, is the southern border of the United States of America secure, sir?
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Todd Bensman
It's as close as I've seen it in decades. 440 crossings the day before yesterday. They're in the 400 range now a day border length from Tijuana all the way to Matamoros. That's stunning. That's down 2/3 from where it was on Biden's final week in office. The border is really pretty darn hermetically sealed at this point and it's going to stay that way because of the tariff threat from Trump has got the Mexicans now deploying 10,000 troops who are going to double layer that thing to make sure that people don't try to. More people don't try to penetrate. The most important part of it is that even the four or five hundred a day that are crossing, none of them are being released. They are all being expelled or detained, often right back to Mexico or detained and flown. There was a flight to India, there was a flight to China. There have been a bunch of flights to Colombia, as we all know, a bunch more since that whole kerfuffle. And the immigrants, the aliens that are trying to. That want to cross are aware that they're stuck. They're not coming through. Wherever they got caught when the gate closed is where they are. And most of them are going to be in Mexico. And so the big problem that we had in the United States, all our mayors and our governors and spending, all this budget, is now Mexico's problem. And they are in chaos down there trying to figure out how to handle it. Hundreds of thousands stuck down there.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, hang on a second. I want to go back. The border is secured. It took about one. Yeah, but hang on. When Mayorkas said that it had no meaning, when Joe Biden said that it had no meaning, when Kamala Harris said that it has no meaning, when Todd Bensman says that it has meaning, you wrote, you wrote the definitive book on this topic. And you're the first person to come on here and say, hey, I want everybody to know it is not chaos. This is very well thought through of what is happen on this invasion. So when Todd Bensman comes back here and says, for all sakes and purposes, the border is secured. Walk me through. What does Todd Bensman mean by that? Give me some details.
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Todd Bensman
Right. Well, it means that very, very, very few illegal aliens are crossing the border anymore. And the reason is because of expulsions and detentions and deportations. I'm pretty sure that you've asked me a bunch of times on this show, how long, Todd, would it take, do you think it would take to shut that border down? And my answer is always about an hour, maybe less. And that's about how long it took. It's just a flick of the switch. We did not need a Lankford Senate bill that they talked about all through the campaign or comprehensive immigration reform or anything like that. We had the laws on the books. We just had to simply apply them to have the will to apply them. That's what Trump did on inauguration. When the clock struck noon plus one minute, they canceled the parole programs, the flights, the walking them across. And everybody said, wow, when you cancel those parole entries, those Scheduled illegal entries, that the government's doing, the illegal smuggling. They're all going to start rushing the border. But that didn't happen. So that's over. There were 70 or 80,000amonth being brought in that way, flown directly into US Cities and brought in over the border, and that's over. And now you just got the four or five hundred a day, and they're all being easily captured. There's probably a few runners who got away. There's always going to be that. But that's. That's just the, you know, that's a low, low norm for this country. It's, it's really, you know, Kamala Harris.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Goes down, Pete goes down there and takes the armies down there. I'll get back to Biden and Harris in a second. But Pete goes to the army's down there. What purpose now is the army at the southern border, sir?
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Todd Bensman
Well, you have to keep your foot on the gas pedal. The fact that they were successful does not mean you can call off the emergency declaration or any of the tactics that are in play down there. And the strategy, it has to stay on nonstop. The military down there right now, they are providing a crucial manpower. They're filling a manpower shortage. They're putting up wire, they're glassing the area. They're putting boots on the ground in areas where there aren't many boots on the ground. And you may have noticed in recent days that border patrol agents are on the interior, away from the border, running ICE raids, basically, you know, running, you know, hauling in illegal immigrants from. Away from the border. So they're doing really crucial tasks of rounding up illegals and getting them out of the country because they've got other boots on the ground down there, you know, filling the gaps. And that's how this works. You have to have layers of different agencies, all where you got DEA out there working with ice, and you have lots of other federal officers who are out there because, remember, the Biden administration spent the last four years dismantling the whole damn machine. 1000 ICE agents shorter than when Biden entered office. And they were chained to their desks, so they're like, atrophied. And so it's going to take a little while to start rounding up on the interior. But the border, you've got to keep your foot on the gas down there for a good long time to make sure that the illegal aliens on the other side get the message that they are not getting through. They're not going to get through. And I think they have that message.
- [11:48]
Stephen K. Bannon
Now, Mayorkas and Harris and Biden go back. What were they doing? Because at the height your book overrun, really, I think ripped the mask off this with all your hits you did here. I think there was a year you were on here like every day.
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Todd Bensman
Yes.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sometimes you're on twice a day, in fact. At what? At what. What is the month that had the most crossings, wasn't it? Wasn't it like 2, 300,000? What was that? A couple. Those couple of those months were like insane. What was that month that was so high? What was the number?
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Todd Bensman
First of all, all those months were insane. 200,000, 250,000. But November and December of 2023 was the peak. We were seeing 10,000, 12, 13 and 14,000 a day compared to that to 440 yesterday. I mean, it's just like I was saying, Kamala Harris was out there saying, we need to turn the page on everything on the border. Well, that page is completely turned in my view, down there on the border because of policies. What they did, Steve, was they just simply decided that they were not going to follow the law, which requires detention. Those are the key things, detention and removal down there. Instead, they opted for mass release. It was unbelievable. No democratic government or administration had ever done anything like that. It was purposeful. They engineered this thing. It was not. Oh, my God. This thing just got out of control. And there's all these wars in the world and all this terrible things happening in the world and climate change and everything. No, it was always one thing. Block, stop, detain, deter. That's what the illegal aliens look for. They just want to know, am I going to drop $10,000 and end up back home, or am I going to drop $10,000 in smuggling fees and end up inside the country and under Biden? It was 95,5% guaranteed you were going to get in and stay in. So the page is turned on that. That's not happening anymore.
- [14:19]
Stephen K. Bannon
So in Mexico, but let's talk about that. So you've stopped it now? I'm going to talk about each side of this. Let's go to the Mexican side. Is it chaos down there? Because these hundreds of thousands of people that continue to come north and think somehow they're going to get through and Trump's not serious about this. Is that all in northern Mexico? Because we have not. I'll talk about this in a second with you. We have not started, really started the mass deportations. Is it the fact that the border is fairly hermetically sealed and they can't come across and that's why northern Mexico is having now a time of turbulence and chaos.
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Todd Bensman
Yes, they got stuck with the hot potato in the game. They are now having to manage the costs and the bureaucracy of the costs of dealing with supporting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that are stuck in Mexico, can't go forward. A lot of them want to stay in Mexico, they say, and go for the great Mexican dream. Fine, great. But the Mexicans don't have the cash for it like we didn't have the cash. The Mexicans are building these shelters all across northern Mexico to house them because they can't get through anymore. The Mexicans are threatening to do their own deportations and have done some deportations by air. The Mexicans are trying to create negative bad conditions that would force all of those illegals down there to self deport. That's what we're trying to do up here, trying to create self deport. Well, the Mexicans are doing it now. The Mexicans are not receiving a whole lot of new immigrants from their south. The Darien Gap, which we've talked about here over and over again. I've been down there, Michael Yan, Oscar, all of those guys been. They've all been down there for the last few years. That's over. I talked to the head of Cinefront just the other day on the phone and I said what's going on in the Darien? And he said it's 8% of what it was a year ago. It's Nothing. It's down 90% the traffic through the Darien because the immigrants see what's going on up trail in Mexico. So they're staying home. They're not even bothering. They're. It's this reverse domino effect that we saw when the COVID closed all those borders. All of a sudden all the way down back through to home villages, people are saying I'm not going, I'm not spending 10 grand or 20 grand to go. But it's important that the Trump administration maintain the pressure because they are looking for any weak link in the chain. They're looking for any crevice that they can get through and if they find one man, they will pour through. So it's got to. You can't just get complacent and rest on their laurels.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Your whole Michael Yan's whole thing about what Osmotic flow. The pressure flows. Why then, riddle me this, Todd Bensman. Why then does President Trump drop the hammer on Mexico given that his actions and he's thought that he and Miller and Homan have Thought this through to the nth detail about sealing the border. Why then does he drop the emergency order as a national security on Mexico for 25%, not just as part of an economic change of model, but about fentanyl. What is it about fentanyl in the drug trade? Why is that still such a problem if we have hermetically sealed the border, Brother, we've hermetically sealed the border. Is fentanyl still getting in at the levels that it was before?
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Todd Bensman
Right. That was a campaign promise. He is moving on that promise not just with Mexico, but also with Canada and China now too. He campaigned on that and he meant business when he did campaign on that. And fentanyl is a difficult problem. It's an intractable, it's a wicked problem because it comes in very small quantities. It's trafficked in small quantities. It's easy to move on trucks. It's easy to mail in from China. It's easy to. And so they are insistent, the Trump administration has to be insistent, that Mexico actually use its military to physically, kinetically pressure the Mexican cartels in their labs and to physically get between the cartels and our border in the smuggling lanes. That's going to be very interesting to watch because once you put Mexican military power between the cartels and our border, there's going to be fireworks, shooting. That's what happens when they do that. And I think that that is about to happen. I've got sources in the administration who are telling me that they are working on US Backed intelligence backed plans for the Mexicans to start kinetically working against the cartel fentanyl labs. And so you got to hold it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Stop, stop. Benson. You're not going to, you're not going to be, we're not bearing the lead there. You're saying how big a deal is it and what does it change to designate the Mexican drug and human trafficking cartels terrorist organization, Sir?
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Todd Bensman
It depends. I'm waiting to hear how they plan to resource that because right now you've got 70, 60 or 65, 70 designated terrorist organizations. They're almost all Islamics and they got the FBI working those and they're pretty tied up working that. So I'm very curious to see how they're going to also take on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But as a terrorist organization, you're designated people. And you're saying here that, you know, inside the administration, they're working on plans right now when you say kinetic, you mean guns up against the fentanyl labs. I take it those fentanyl labs are not in the territory of the United States of America. Correct. Mexico.
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Todd Bensman
Mexican fentanyl labs. My understanding is that one use of this military, the 10,000, is to try to get all up in the grill of those cartels on that fentanyl stuff. So, you know, we haven't seen it happen yet because it just, it's pretty, the troops aren't even out yet. They're still like rolling out of the barracks. But I think we are going to see some kinetic stuff going on down there. I think that there needs to be some kinetic activity down there. We have a lot of Americans dying from this drug. Way, way too many. You know, obviously something has to be done and they're going to, at the very least, you know, put up some show and tell or some dog and pon something. They're going to do something to show. Please don't put those tariffs on us, Mr. President.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So this would be used in the Mexican army part, Folks, you should know the tariff situation President Trump required. They send 10,000 Mexican army and marine personnel to the border. You're saying you think some of those will be designated to go kinetic against the Mexican cartels and particularly the fentanyl labs in northern Mexico? Is that your belief?
- [22:18]
Todd Bensman
That's my belief, yeah. I think that's going to.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Is that tell tell people, Given you've been doing this for a long time, how big a game changer is that?
- [22:28]
Todd Bensman
Sir, it depends, you know, like I've had people tell me that that know this stuff say, well, it depends on which division they put in there because, you know, half the Mexican military is co opted, you know, corrupted by those cartels. So you gotta get, I mean, you know, maybe the Mexican navy guys or I mean, let's face it, you know, half of the Mexican military is corrupted and they're in bed with those guys. So you can kind of see that the Mexican, the central government, Sheinbaum's government is going to have to pick and choose who they put in there. It depends on which units they, they put in there, in my opinion, because it is what it is. That's Mexico for you.
- [23:19]
Stephen K. Bannon
Let's talk about the other side. And I want to hold you through the break, if that's possible. I want to take a minute or two here and hold you through the break. So on our side, Tom Holman and Kristi Noem have been doing these raids, the ICE raids and a lot of it I think, is to show activity and we're serious. But first off, how do you think the raids of the criminals and what do you think of the blowback from the sanctuary city and particularly the mayor of Chicago and Pritzker, the governor of Illinois saying, you're not coming to my jail, you're not coming to my prison, you're not going to get these foreign nationals out of here. Your thoughts?
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Todd Bensman
Well, first of all, you know, they brought down 10,000 dangerous criminals. That's good on any day. I don't care who does that. They did that way, way more than the Biden administration ever did in a week and a half for sure. They had those ICE guys chained to their desk. That's a really good number. And I think that number is going to go way higher. Homan is pushing to up the quotas, the daily quotas. They want 1500 a day rounded up and they've got. That's just the criminal aliens. And then after that they're going to go after other categories. So you have to expect those numbers to rise. And as far as the blue city pushback, man, I just. That is like a head scratcher to me. I will never get that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's not a head scratcher. It's not a head scratcher. It's not a head scratcher. Of course they're going to. I tell you what, Todd, hang on a second. I'm going to hold you. I'm going to hold you through the break. In fact, Todd, I'm going to recommend for an energy pickup late in the afternoon. Are Todd Eadle. Sleepy, tired. Todd Benson. Todd Benson. I'm not used to low energy. Todd Bensman Benzeman. I'm going to hold you through the break. We're going to come back. I want to talk about those raids and we'll talk about. The mayors are defiant. They think the politics work for them. These radical Democrats, they think standing up to President Trump. Heck, the California assembly just passed a bill, $50 million to obstruct Trump. Tonight at 9:00, you'll see Samantha Powers on Rachel Maddow. They're arrogant, they're not backing down. Look online, the USAID hell is fun and everything out of London. The invasion of the southern border. Berquhm and Taunton went there. 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Todd Bensman
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So Todd. Todd's had some. Some field agreements, by the way. Often we were talking there and during the break, Todd's. Todd's taking umbrage with low energy. So Todd, go back to. Let's go back to, to the cities, the sanctuary cities. Of course Chicago is going to push back. New York's not because Adams understands what a disaster it is. Louisiana's not because I think Bass and Newsom. Newsom is at the White House 4:00. Maybe we can get some clips of that. They need the money, but they think it's politically smart for them to fight and confront the Trump administration from coming into the jails and prisons and getting the criminal the Illegal alien, foreign national, criminal, sir.
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Todd Bensman
Yeah, well, let them think that that's what the Democratic Party thought about the border and all the illegal aliens rushing into all the big cities all during the campaign. And look what happened. They lost their ass. So the point is that, you know, if you're going to inflict those kind of criminal aliens on your own people, I can't see what political advantage you're gonna gain from that. You're gonna lose again. But, you know, we'll see. Every time, you know, ICE runs around and, you know, rounds up a bunch of these, you got, you know, Fox News or, you know, somebody embedded in there and you can actually see who these people are. You know, child rapists, repeat, you know, rapists of adult women and armed robbers and all that kind of violent gang bangers and repeatedly arrested over and over again and repeatedly released by those blue police departments and blue sheriffs. And there they right are. You could have picked them up anytime. They're free. Running around for ice, that is just a horror show for them. I can't see what the political advantage is in that. I think they're just going to lose. Why don't you just encourage them to keep doing it? Because that's what happened in the 2024 election. They lost on that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Let me make the engine room is also informing me. But I want to get something out. And the resistance you got legal, you know, you got. They're going to courts. They're doing this. They're fighting, they're fighting. They're slowing down everything in the Senate. They're fighting now every step of the way, using all the tactics in the legislative process. The budget fights are going to be enormous. They're going to be front page. Everybody's going to talk about markets going to be turbulent. Turbulence is going to be the theme of our era. That's just how it is. We've got to make up for decades and decades and decades of inattention and rot, kicking the can down the road in our generation right here, this place, in time. We have to stop it. The two things are going to explode. One is when you have to do the cuts and the social programs. It's going to be, it's going to be, you know, all of it's going to be, you know, that's going to be on TV every night. You're not feeding the kids, you're taking away from education, you're killing the arts, all of it. But the one they're really going to lead was when you really start mass deportations, it's one thing to take out criminal aliens out of jails, in prison, or do it now with administrative warrants. That's one of the reasons you're not seeing as much action you saw in the first couple days. It's tough. It's hard. You've got a guy, you've got hardest man the world. Holman there with Miller and Kristi Noem. That's a pretty good team. But the word mass deportations, Benzeman, and you know this, when the resistance becomes huge is when in Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, is down in Central America cutting deals with the Central American countries. And we're working on a deal, obviously with Mexico. But when you say they have to go, they're going to. CNN is going to have the camera right there on the crying babies and the crying mothers and, you know, hanging on for dear life. And political polling numbers are going to jump around and you're going to have the test. So walk me through how this is going to happen. You're the guy that identified the problem. Truthfully, that problem, President Trump says more than inflation, was the number one problem. The number one issue he went on is exactly what Todd Bensman and the rest of the team have been here for four or five years talking about. Now, we're to the solutions, and the solutions are not easy. None of this is easy. That's why Trump's president. So walk me through, in your mind, when you start, when you get to the deportations and mass deportations, how does this start playing out, given what you've seen so far in the days of Thunder?
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Todd Bensman
Start with 80%. That's the polling numbers for support of deportation, mass deportation of criminal aliens. Another 50 plus percent of Americans are in favor of deporting everybody else. It's a little bit less than the criminals. Of course, the other side understands that it has to erode that support. And the way that they're gonna do it is through what I call injustice porn, which is the crying mothers and the babies, when they finally get around to deporting the housekeepers and the lawnmowers and that sort of thing. So when they get to that, you're going to see a real information war. And I call that injustice porn. Because first of all, most of the claims that you will see that will be made are going to be false. Like the, you know, Haitian, the border patrols guys on the horses with the horse reins, whirling them around, oh, you whipped these poor Haitian men. Not true. Or Ocasio Cortez saying, oh, they're drinking Forcing these migrants to drink out of the toilet. Not true. All of those kind of cases, you're gonna see that all again. And it has to be called out immediately, before the news cycles keep kind of ricocheting around the country and doing real damage, making public officials come out and actually take action in public policy. So there has to be real information war, countering it from the other side, countering the injustice porn that I call it, that I don't know what else to call it. It's just all bs, women and children crying and claims of abuse. So that's really how that's going to roll out. Now, one thing I want to say is that the mass deportations are going to take time to build up because the machine was dismantled and left in pieces all over the garage. And Homan and all those guys are all trying to piece it together as fast as they. That's why they did Guantanamo Bay. They put that online because the Biden administration got rid of all the detention spikes space, they're down to 40,000 beds. They almost doubled it with Guantanamo. And now they've got to put military bases online and they got to get ready for when they finally ramp up. The other thing is there aren't as many ICE agents now. They have to ramp up the number of feds that are out there doing these kind of operations. And at some point they're going to have to start going after the housekeepers and the people that have been here for 10 or 15 years. They have removal orders on them. It may take a couple of years, but they have to work up to it, be patient. They're going to. With Homan in there, when he's in the driver's seat, in the pilot seat, you have to know that he's going to do everything he possibly can within the infrastructure constraints that he has to actually get those numbers up. And I've heard that the President is demanding those numbers go up. So you can rest assured that there is going to be pressure to get those numbers higher.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I can tell you the President of States, he wants to see. He loves what we've seen so far, but he wants. He's a guy, it's a mathematics guy. He wants to see some numbers here. It's not a correction, just an observation. Todd. The 80% of the criminal aliens you know, sent back home is obviously high, but it's not a small drop. It's a pretty big drop down to the middle, I think the high 50s. And that's what the left is counting on because they said there's no visuals to that. They're going to show you visuals. They're going to show you the injustice, porn every second of every day and how MAGA is heartless. President Trump is a dictator. This is what the Germans, this is what Germany did in the 19th. Over and over and over again, just nonstop. They'll be in the streets. You saw this weekend. What do you take of what you saw? Just the Little Ice activity in Los Angeles. You had these pretty mass demonstrations with burning the American flag and waving the Mexican flag, sir.
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Todd Bensman
We're gonna see a whole lot of that. That's gonna be part of the fabric of living in America for the next four years. You're gonna see a lot of that sort of thing and it'll probably gain momentum and numbers as we go from criminal aliens to non criminals, which we will do. But, you know, it is what it is. So I don't think that, you know, listen, Trump is not running for reelection and I don't think he cares, really. I don't think he cares and nor maybe should he care. If that's his agenda and he wants his agenda to succeed, I think a lot of Americans will back him on that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, a lot of Americans, but the War on Posse, this is going to man the ramparts. This is going to be a test. This is going to be a time of testing. Because, Todd, in the best case it's going, people got to gird themselves. It's going to take years to do this. When you have. My estimate is 10 to 12 million that are here just on Biden's watch, that's my number. I don't think anybody, we shouldn't focus on anybody beforehand, just focus on who Biden let in. But at those numbers at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 million, just understanding the logistics of. Takes a while, does it not, sir?
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Todd Bensman
Yeah, it's going to take a while to get up there. I mean, look, Barack Obama, they called him the deporter in chief and he was moving about a million two, a million four a year out. And I think the goal should be to top that. They're going to have to top that if they want to reverse the damage that was done in just the last three or four years. So they're gonna have to, they're gonna have to ramp up, but they. There's a lot more coming, I can tell you that. There's a lot more coming.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What do you mean? What do you mean a lot more coming? A lot more coming across?
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Todd Bensman
No, there's a lot more coming. A lot more Resources coming.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And I mean, okay, don't. But this audience wants to say a lot more coming. You're saying more resources. What do you mean by that? More money. This is why the reconciliation bills, I said you have to have two. We got to get the border one done. Now, now, now. Because they don't have the money even in the budget that they have to do by the 14th to keep the government open. Resources have to be reallocated. Homan needs some backup on this. And it's going to cost some money, is it not, sir?
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Todd Bensman
It is. This is not going to be cheap. It's a long war. So they're going to have to have Congress, they supposedly have this trifecta. They're going to need to exploit that trifecta to the max while they can. So they already got a big piece of legislation in unbelievably, like within a week, they had a bill sign the Lake and Riley Act. And I think that they. I mean, to me, that foretells some more legislation that they're going to need. They need money, they need aircraft, they need people, they need bed space. So to keep that pressure on down there and on the Interior as well.
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Stephen K. Bannon
When you say trifecta, you mean we have the executive branch of White House and both. Both the Senate and the House.
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Todd Bensman
Yeah.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What about the courts? I know it's. Then I got that. What about the courts? Where are the courts going to come down on this? Because this. They're going to go to court on everything. They're going to go to court on everything. And you got a bunch of these liberal judges, particularly at the lowest level. What's going to happen here?
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Todd Bensman
That all works the same way every time. I mean, that just cycles in and out. You're already seeing it filing in the ninth Circuit. Right. To stop this or that policy, and then appeals to go to the Supreme Court or filings in the fifth Circuit, the conservative fifth Circuit, mostly conservative fifth Circuit. And, you know, birthright citizenship is a great example. They knew that was going to court right away. They crafted the thing to make it to the Supreme Court. And there it is, you know, a couple dozen lawsuits right off the bat. You're going to see a lot of litigation. I don't think we've even started on the litigation. Lots of different, amazing. For example.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's gonna be huge. Yep. Go ahead.
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Todd Bensman
Well, I was gonna say, you know, one of the key tools that the administration is using here is called 212F of the INA. And I've talked about 212F here, I don't know how many times, but it's just a number. It's a piece of the INA that allows a president to, for whatever reason they feel like woke up in a bad mood that day, they're gonna block and return all illeg alien crossers for whatever reason. They feel like, you know, for the national interest for the most part, and they're using that. But it's complicated legally. There have been some cases about it, and so they're going to try to knock that down. So they brought in remain in Mexico, which is, we all know that's already vetted all the way to the Supreme Court. That means you can push back anybody you want and make them wait in Mexico for their asylum claim. So they got a backup to the backup. They kind of know what they're doing this time around. Trump 1.0 got bogged down right away. They couldn't do anything. They couldn't even build the wall because they were so litigated. And it lasted for so long that the immigrants down there were like, wait a minute, the door's open, let's run for it. And they did. Until they were able to wrestle that down to the mat again. I don't think that's going to happen this time. And one of the great things about the tariff threat in Mexico is that Mexico is a key choke point. And having 10,000 troops up there blocking and returning migrants back south and all that is like extra layering and buffer for the whole agenda. I think they've got multiple things going on all at the same time that are going to keep that pressure on down there and keep them clearing out of the interior as well.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Todd, where do people go to get your writings? Everything? You're putting up great stuff every day. You're more focused on this than ever. And we have it, folks, given where we've come, given how we identified the problem and Todd and the guys put their lives in line to do it. It's been amazing. President Trump is number one issue. You've already said you just heard from Todd. The border looks like he's getting secured. Now the fentanyl situation. Now comes the hard part. As I say, all 10 to 12 million got to go home. Marco Ruby is down there trying to cut deals on it. But all 10 to 12 million got to go home. Have to. If you don't do it, you're just asking for next time. People say, well, holy. Let those guys stay. I'll slip in. You let me stay. Because it's never, it's not going to be as secure. That border is never going to be secured as it is right now with President Trump. Maybe other people make changes in the future, but right now you get a sealed border. Todd, where do folks get you? Because now we're starting the grind where they go.
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Todd Bensman
That's right. Well, the new piece what's happening in Mexico is up right now@cis.org CIS center for Immigration Studies.org that's my employer think tank. And you can find me on social media, you know, Bensmond Todd on X. I'm on getter. I'm on Truth Social. And also I just wanted to mention that I will be speaking February 12th at Women of Washington in Seattle. That's going to be at the I can't read this, but go to Women of Washington. Sorry, Women of Washington. Find that he engine room.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You're right. He's, he's sleepy. You're going to go take a nap after this. Remind me never to book Benjamin in the afternoon show in the morning. He's on fire. You get up, it's that warpath coffee. You get that warpath coffee in the field of greens. You're ready to go. Late in the afternoon. I get, I get sleepy. Todd, hold it. Where are you going to speak the reason you got where you speak because the war and posse all comes off and afterwards all I hear is Todd Benson here. We love him. They show me the photos, all of it. So it's a war room posse crowd where they want to know where you're.
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Todd Bensman
Speaking over Lake Golf and Country Club. And feel free to disagree with Bannon there as the weather. I was all that sleepy and I hope there's some MAGA up in Seattle. Is there MAGA up in Seattle? I think there.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hell yeah, man. What are you talking? There's MAGA up there and there's Warren Posse up there. One more time, where are you going.
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Todd Bensman
To speak over Lake Golf and Country Club, February 12, Women of Washington in Seattle.
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