
WarRoom Battleground EP 704: Trump Seizes Control Of The Kennedy Center ...
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Steve Bannon
Why do you want to be chairman.
Donald Trump
Of the Kennedy center board? Because I want to make sure it runs properly. We don't need woke at the Kennedy Center. We don't need. Some of the shows were terrible. They're a disgrace that they were even put on. So I'll be there until such time as it gets to be running. Right. Have you seen any shows there? How do you know? There are times I didn't go. No. I got reports. It was so bad, I didn't want to. I didn't want to go. There was nothing I wanted to see. Thank you very much, everybody.
Roger Kimball
Okay, welcome. Monday, the 10th of February, year of a Lord, 2025. I cut out a traditional open because we got to get to it. I've got Shalak Kumar is going to join us here shortly. Talk about Modi, my favorite. The greatest nationalist in the world, right? And a guy that tremendously admires President Trump and they work together as a team. Howdy. Modi, I think, was down in Houston a couple years ago. Biggest event President Trump had been to, except when he went to India. Massive the love for President Trump over there. So the huge meeting this week, we're going to cover it kind of wall to wall because just the nation of India, the people are just absolutely fantastic. Modi's an example for everybody throughout the world. Also, Forest Zhu is going to be here. News coming out of the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing, the Financial Times, trade war. They're coming at us with retaliatory tariffs. But they got a little bad news and it's becoming a reality. One of the reasons their soft economy is an implosion, a demographic implosion among the Chinese people. But I want to start with Roger Kimball. Roger, in a minute, I'm going to have. There's two things I want to go through. One, you are the author in the on the conservative side of taking. I think it's Gramsci's the Long March through the Institutions. And you laid out in this magnificent book how the left went through the institutions of our country. We're seeing it today, and I think people are shocked. Trump's doing a forced march through the institutions with Doge Elon Musk and himself, and also with Russ Fot and the other team. First off, let's go to the thesis of your book. What was Gramsci talking about? What was the long march through the institutions originally that got us in this shape? And then I want you to comment and make observ on. What do you think about Doge Elon Musk and President Trump's effort.
Marco Rubio
Right. So the Long March, and you're right, Antonio Gramsci popularized that phrase. The Long March was poached upon Mao Tse Tung's phrase, the Long March. But the idea was that if you really want to get the revolution going, what you need to do is occupy the commanding heights of the culture. So this Long March through the institutions that people like Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School Marxist and others popularized, was the idea that if we're going to foment revolution in America, what we need to do is first of all, take over the cultural institutions, the educational institutions, the churches, the whole potpourri of cultural institutions, like museums, like the Kennedy center, for example. And once we occupy those, then we have control of the young people and we can do with them as we will. And of course, the educational institutions were perhaps the most potent form of sabotage of our, of our culture. So it's very important that in this Force March, as you put it, we don't neglect the high schools, even the primary schools and the university systems, because that is the crucible whereby these horrible ideas are allowed to germinate and take over our society. Now, I have to say I think low, but I did not think low enough. As it turns out, what has been going on in this country, as we've discovered over the last, well, the last three weeks. Today is the anniversary of the third week anniversary of Trump's inauguration. Things are always worse than you think, as they say. And I mean, I knew about, you know, that there was corruption and abuse, but what has been uncovered at usaid, for example, the Treasury Department, it's absolutely breathtaking. And this is just the proverbial tip of the iceberg. I mean, USAID, why did they spend $14 million handing out cash payments to illegal migrants at our southern border? Why did they spend $15 million spending condoms to the Taliban? I mean, it sounds almost ridiculous. Why did they spend $7 million to fund a series of speaker series in Canada of bipoc people? Why did the Treasury Department have all these Social Security numbers that were not de duplicated? What that means is that you could have hundreds, thousands of people with the same Social Security number. Now, why would you want that? Well, because you'd hand them out to favored people, for example, illegal migrants, and then they would be able to cross the border, get various privileges in this country, by the way, which our citizens don't get. The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, pointed out that what these illegal migrants are getting far exceeds what is available to our own citizens. So I expect this process to be rapid and regime changing. By regime changing, I mean the woke regime of the administrative state. I think it's all over for these guys. And the little twitterings of district judges like the Obama appointed Paul Engelmeier are going to signify for nothing. Whether you have Pam Bondian as the Attorney General, this is not going anywhere. Basically, I believe what Trump is probably going to do is a variation on what Andrew Jackson is said to have done in his dispute with Chief Justice Marshall back and I think it was 1834.
Roger Kimball
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Donald Trump
You know Doug, everybody. I think he was in charge of the fake impeachment hearings. Remember that? I won very conclusively. Fake charges by the radical left Democrats. Okay.
Steve Bannon
Next. Sir, the Federal Executive Institute is a program that was set up during the Johnson administration administration to train senior level government bureaucrats. As you've identified repeatedly in the last few years, the senior levels of our federal government are not adequately serving as stewards of taxpayer dollars. So we're recommending zeroing out that program effectively.
Donald Trump
We're actually getting rid of a few programs that are just a waste. Just really a waste.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Next, we have an executive order relating to the Foreign Corrupt Practices act, as you've repeatedly identified, the way that this act has been enforced over the years has been devastating to American business opportunities and business competitiveness abroad. We are essentially ordering the Department of Justice to use its prosecutorial discretion in a way to ameliorate the negative effects of the Foreign Crime Corrupt Practices act to allow Americans to do business abroad and to allow our foreign partners to do business with Americans without fearing unjust prosecution.
Donald Trump
And for those of you that know this, it turned out to be. It sounds good on paper, but in practicality, it's a disaster. It means that if an American goes over to a foreign country and starts doing business over there, legally, legitimately or otherwise, it's almost a guaranteed investigation, indictment. And nobody wants to do business with the Americans because of it. Nobody wants to do business. They say, look, we can deal with China. They can do whatever they want. We can deal with Russia, we can deal with anybody, and we have a normal life. You deal with America, the FBI gets over there, they don't investigate death and murders on the street in New York and Los Angeles. They. They go over and investigate a business guy trying to do business. So it made it very, very hard from a practical standpoint to make deals. They want to deal with the Americans, but they don't want to be under investigation. Every time they speak to American, every time an American makes a phone call to somebody in a different country, it's a disaster for this country. And the. I guess it was a Jimmy Carter concept, and it sounds so good, but it's so bad it hurts the country. And many, many deals are unable to be made because of it. Nobody wants to do business because they don't want to feel like every time they pick up a phone, they're going to jail. So we'll sign this. And it takes courage to sign it because you only get bad publicity when you sign it. It sounds so nice, the title is so lovely, but it's an absolutely horror show for America. So we're signing it because that's what we have to do to make it good. Okay, thank you. That's an important one. It's going to mean a lot more business for America.
Steve Bannon
Okay, thank you, sir. Next, this is an executive order relating to the use of paper straws. As you've consistently identified, nobody really likes paper straws.
Donald Trump
Number one trending. Can you believe it? A paper straw was number one trending for three days or something.
Steve Bannon
The environmental impact of plastic straws versus paper straws is entirely unclear. This has cost both the government and private industry an absolute ton of money and left consumers all over the country wildly dissatisfied with their straws. So we're asking aspects of. Of the federal government, federal departments and agencies to look at their existing procurement processes. And we're asking your Domestic Policy Council to look holistically at this issue, to address it. And it really is something that affects ordinary Americans in their everyday lives.
Donald Trump
We're going back to plastic stores. These things don't work. I've had them many times, and on occasion they break, they explode. If something's hot, they don't last very long, like a matter of minutes, sometimes a matter of seconds. It's a ridiculous situation. So we're going back to plastic straws. I think it's okay. And I don't think that plastic is going to affect a shark very much as they're eating, as they're munching their way through the ocean.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Next we have a full and unconditional pardon for former governor Rob Blagojevich of the state of Illinois.
Donald Trump
Good. It's my honor to do it. I've watched him. He was set up by a lot of bad people, some of the same people that I had to deal with. He wasn't quite as successful, but he had somebody that saw what was going on. I didn't know him other than I believe he was on the Apprentice for a little while. He was a just a very nice person. He had a fantastic wife. She fought like hell to get him out. He was given a sentence of like 18 years. And there was a sort of a terrible injustice. They just were after him. They go after a lot of people. These are bad people on the other side. So I think he's a just a very fine person. And this shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't have happened to him and let him have a normal life and let him go out and do what he has to do. So I'm signing this as a full pardon. Rod Blagojevic, Mr. President, are you considering him for ambassador to Serbia? No, but I would. He's now cleaner than anybody in this room. You got a pardon. He's cleaner than anybody in the room.
Steve Bannon
Okay, thank you, Sir. Next. In 2018, you imposed ad valorem duties tariffs on imports of steel at a 25% rate. Since that time, a large number of exclusions and exceptions to that tariff rule have been implemented because of the damage to the United States steel industry that those exceptions and exclusions have imposed. Were. Now this order. Order would reimpose that 25% ad valorem tariff rate on imports of steel. And it's presented for your signature now.
Donald Trump
Okay. Do you understand what that means? It's a big deal. It's a big deal. This is the beginning of making America Rich again. Mr. Secretary, do you have anything to say? As you know, Howard is Secretary of Commerce doing a fantastic job. And what do you have to say about it?
Howard
So when you imposed the tariffs the first time, you added 120,000 jobs. And since that time, it's been picked away and nicked away and excluded away, and we've lost 107,000 jobs. And remember, these aren't just general jobs. These are steel workers in America. And now you're going to bring them back. You're going to bring those 120,000 jobs back to America. You are the President who's standing up for the American steel worker. And I am just tremendously impressed and delighted to stand next to you, Mr. President.
Donald Trump
So let me just make a statement. And essentially we're. This is another way of saying we're doing a 25% tariff on steel and aluminum. So the failed American trade policies have led our once incredible United States steel and aluminum industries. Once incredible. It's once incredible, not now. But they're, they're not bad. I saved them because of my first term. Totally saved them. If I didn't do what I did, I put massive tariffs. Not the highest level, but pretty, pretty massive tariffs. We got. We took in a lot of money and we took in a lot of jobs, but we were being pummeled by both friend and foe alike. Our nation requires steel and aluminum to be made in America, not in foreign lands. We need to create in order to protect our country's future resurgence of US Manufacturing and production, the likes of which has not been seen for many decades. It's time for our great industries to come back to America. I want them back to America. This is the first of many, and you know what I mean by that. We're going to be doing others on other subjects topics. Protecting our steel and aluminum industries is a must. And today I'm simplifying our tariffs in steel and aluminum so that everyone can understand exactly what it means. It's 25% without exceptions or exemptions. And that's all countries, no matter where it comes from. All countries if made in the United States. However, United States of America, there is no tariff. Zero. So if it's made in the United States, there is no tariff. All you have to do is make it in the United States. We don't need it from another country, as an example, Canada. If we make it in the United States, we don't need it to be made in Canada. We'll have the jobs. That's why Canada should be our 51st state. We'll bring back industries, it will bring back our jobs, it will make America industry great again. So essentially, we're putting on a 25% tariff without exception on all aluminum and all steel. And it's going to mean a lot of businesses are going to be opening in the United States. Now we're going to be meeting over the next four week period, maybe on a weekly basis, and maybe we'll do a couple of them at different times and maybe together. But we'll be talking about other subjects like cars. We'll be talking about drugs and pharmaceuticals. We'll be discussing chips. And we're going to be doing some other things in addition to that. All which will bring in a lot of jobs into our country. Cars is going to be a very big one and a very important one. And America is going to be stronger than it ever was before. Okay, so are you finished with everything?
Steve Bannon
I think we have aluminum still to sign.
Donald Trump
Okay, let's go.
Steve Bannon
So with respect to aluminum, similarly to Steel, since 2018, a large number of exceptions and exemptions have been added into the law. This eliminates all of those and also increases the ad valorem tariff rate from 10 to 25%.
Donald Trump
Mostly. The last part is the most important, right, Would you say? Totally. So basically this is aluminum. The same thing, no exceptions, no nothing. And it's going to bring our aluminum business back and may go higher. I mean, frankly, it may go higher. And we're going to also be talking about receptors. We're going to be talking about things over the next three weeks that I think will be amazing for our country, amazing for our jobs, and will bring us to a new level of prosperity. And I think frankly, our allies and our enemies all over the world expected this. They really expected it for years. They really expected it sometime during the Biden administration, but they didn't do anything. As you know, I put, I put tariffs on China. We took in hundreds of billions of dollars with those tariffs. And Biden wasn't able to get him out. He tried to, but it was too much money. He couldn't do it. And we're going to be doing a very concise and, you know, a very, very. It's going to be good and I don't think if done properly and we're going to try and do that. We don't want it to hurt other countries. But they've been taking advantage of us for years and years and years. And they've charged us. Terrorists, most of them have charged us. Almost everyone, I would say, almost without exception, definitely they've charged us and we haven't charged them. And it's time to be reciprocal. So very, very. You'll be hearing that word a lot. Reciprocal. If they charge us, we charge them. If they're at 25, we're at 25. If they're at 10, we're at 10. And if they're much higher than 25, that's where we are, too. So that's having to do with everything. That's not just steel and aluminum, but we'll be discussing that over the next couple of weeks. But we will be looking at chips and we will be looking at cars and we're going to be looking at pharmaceuticals and there'll be a couple of other things also. In addition, that will be. Mr. President, Mr. President, U.S. steelworkers have said that they support this move. What would you say to American consumers who are worried that prices that they do support this? I love the steel makers. That's first because they want to save their businesses. US Steel will now be a very valuable company. Anybody that makes steel is going to be great. Anybody that works in big steel is going to be very happy. What do you say to consumers who are worried about prices? Oh, I don't think you're going to know. You're going to ultimately have a price reduction because they're going to make their steel here. There's not going to be any tariffs. These foreign companies will move to the United States, will make their steel and aluminum in the United States. Ultimately, it'll be cheaper, but we'll also have jobs, many, many more jobs.
Roger Kimball
Sir, what are you looking at in.
Donald Trump
Terms of tariffs on cars and chips? Well, we're looking at numbers and we'll be coming up with a number. But we have. We make some of the finest cars in the world, and some companies prohibit us from selling those cars. And they're countries, but they sell us cars, they send cars to us. So we don't do that. We charge nothing or two and a half percent and they'll be charging 100%. They'll be charging much more than that if you look at some of them. So I think those days are over. But we'll be announcing on other things, such as cars. We got some other things we'll be doing, but the biggest thing is reciprocal. We want tariffs to be Fair. If they charge. If they charge us, we charge them. We'll be doing reciprocal over the next, I would say two days, don't you think? Two days, yeah, maybe. The Australian Prime Minister has said that you are considering an exemption for Australia on steel. Is that correct?
Marco Rubio
And why?
Donald Trump
I just spoke to him. Very fine man. And he has a surplus. I mean we have a surplus with, with Australia, one of the few. And the reason is they buy a lot of airplanes. They are rather far away and they need lots of airplanes and we actually have a surplus. It's one of the only countries which we do. And I told him that that's something that we will give great consideration to. And would you consider one for the UK as well? Well, we have a huge deficit with the uk. Big difference. You don't have a deficit with Argentina. Is that country also going to be. We have a, a deficit with a little deficit with Argentina almost with every country but Australia. Because of the airplanes. They buy a lot of airplanes. There's a little bit of a surplus. Mr. President, if other countries retaliate, I don't mind.
Roger Kimball
What is your plan for for example, farmers last term you.
Donald Trump
Well, the farmers are going to be helped greatly. Yeah, the farmers are going to be helped greatly because they're not going to be dumping everything into our country. This will be a great bill for farmers. And in terms of retaliation, if they retaliate, it's as I said, it's reciprocal. So if they raise it a little bit, then we raise it automatically. So I don't think it helps for them to retaliate. But also remember this, they can't really retaliate because we're the piggy bank. We're the piggy bank. But if we don't do this, we won't be the piggy bank for long. We won't be much of a country. Mr. President, did you see that report, sir, that Hamas was going to stop releasing Israeli hostages? And what was your reaction? I think it's terrible. Look, I looked at the hostages that came in and they're emaciated. It looked like something out of the 1930s. It's an absolute disgrace. And I think they saw the way the world viewed it and they're looking for a reason not to send more because they're all. You take a look at that. It looks like it was, it looked like it was a concentration camp, which essentially it was. It looks like they came out of the Holocaust and what a sad thing. One of them was a young man, good looking guy, little bit a Little bit heavier than perhaps he could have been. And now he looks like he's not even recognizable. Not even recognizable. At risk of all your parts. Look, I can tell you that those people have been badly hurt, both mentally and physically. I'm talking about the young women that came out also previously. And I think one of the reasons they're doing this is because they're probably sending the best. What you see is probably the best because they want to send people that look at least healthy, and that's not healthy. These people have been badly hurt. They've been interviewed by our representatives, they've been interviewed by Israeli representatives, and they're really hurting. They are really hurting mentally and physically. And I think Hamas is looking at that and saying, well, it's not going to get much better than that because they probably send out their best as a representative and they've got more to send out. And they probably feel that they can't do that because it's not going to make them look very good.
Steve Bannon
Is the ceasefire going to open?
Donald Trump
Delay that, sir. Should the ceasefire then be off? Well, I would say this, and I'm going to let that be because that's Israel's decision. But as far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages aren't returned By Saturday at 12:00, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out. I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o'clock on Saturday. And if they're not returned, all of them, not in drips and drabs, not 2 and 1 and 3 and 4 and 2, Saturday at 12 o'clock, and after that, I would say all hell is going to break out and I don't think they're going to do it. I think a lot of them are dead. I think a lot of the hostages are dead. I think it's a great, it's a great human tragedy what's happened, how people can be that mean to do. I mean, the one guy was laughing when a hostage, he thought his family was alive, found out the family was dead and the. His captor, so to speak, his captor started laughing because he thought it was so funny. You know, this is, this is a different group of people. No, I would say Saturday at 12, we want them all back. I'm speaking for myself, Israel can override it, but for myself, Saturday at 12:00. And if they're not, if they're not here, all hell is going to break out. Mr. President, if he heard you this.
Roger Kimball
And you said that Palestinians would not.
Donald Trump
Be guaranteed the right to return to Gaza if the US Were to develop.
Forrest Zhu
It, what did you mean by that?
Donald Trump
We've spoken to a lot of Palestinians. They would love to leave Gaza if they could find a place to be. And I've spoken to various leaders of various countries in the not so, you know, distant area from where we're talking about the Gaza Strip. And I think they were very positive about providing land. What we need is land. And if we could build a nice place for people to live safely, everybody in Gaza would do it. They've been persecuted, they've been. They've been spit on, they've been treated like trash and they would love to get out of Gaza. But until now they never had an alternative. Now they have an alternative. And as far as Hamas is concerned, you're seeing the real Hamas now with the hostages. What are you saying on Gaza, you have the. Who are you? From where?
Steve Bannon
The Wall Street Journal, sir.
Donald Trump
Yeah, that's what I think.
Steve Bannon
Jordanian leader is coming in to see you.
Donald Trump
Yeah. Folks and Jordan have expressed tomorrow's position.
Steve Bannon
To taking in more Gazans, more Palestinians.
Donald Trump
How do you.
Steve Bannon
How are you going to convince him to do otherwise?
Donald Trump
I think he'll take. I mean, I do think he'll take and I think other countries will take also. They have good hearts. I think they'll take. But what about the Palestinians who just won't leave? We've spoken. Our team has spoken. They're all going to leave when they have a place that's a better alternative, when they have a nice place that's safe, they're all going to leave. It's a hellhole right now. But how are you so sure would the US force them to leave? You're going to see that they're all going to want to leave. Mr. President, when you say come to Saturday at noon, are you visit American hostage who's still being held by Hamas right now? Look, you know, who knows? Are they alive? Are they not alive? But I saw the condition, when I saw the condition of the last ones that came out. And the women too. Everybody. The one woman had her hand blown off because she was trying to stop a bullet being fired at her. Okay. What kind of a situation is that? You saw her. I just think it's time to. Either you release everybody, they're not going to be alive right now. Based on what I saw over the last two days, they're not going to be alive for long. Saturday at 12 o'clock and after that, it's going to be a different ballgame.
Steve Bannon
Mr. President, when you say all hell is going to break loose, are you speaking about retaliation from.
Donald Trump
You'll find out and they'll find out too. Hamas will find out what I mean, Mr. President. They're going to find out what I mean. These are sick people and they'll find out what I mean. Saturday at 12, but no involvement. Palestinians from the West Bank. Are they going to be relocated to which position? Well, right now, no. Right now they're there and I assume they want to remain there. It's different. They're there. It's never been like what we're talking about with the Gaza Strip. So may I continue? No, no, I have no plans. Mr. President, regarding the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Democrats including Elizabeth Warren and said that by freezing it, it's getting big banks and giant corporations to green light the state families. Yeah, Pocahontas. Pocahontas. The fake. The faker, you know, that was set up to destroy people. She used that as her little personal agency to go around and destroy people. And she's a fake. Just like she said she was an Indian and she wasn't an Indian. You aboriginal Indian blood in you than she has. She went to college based on the fact that she was an Indian. She got jobs based on the fact that she was an Indian. She's a fake. That was. That was set up to destroy some very good people. And it worked. I mean it worked a lot of. A lot of great people. I'll tell you, before I ever heard the term people would come up to me in the Midwest in areas that say serum being destroyed by them, they use that to destroy people. She's a nasty woman. She's a really nasty woman. Despite her phony beer commercial. Now we did the right thing. That was a very important thing to get rid of. And it was also a waste. I mean, number one, it was a bad group of people running it, but it was also a waste. If you looked at when she really ran it, wow, that was a vicious group of people. They really destroyed a lot of people.
Steve Bannon
And you can confirm it's your goal is to have it totally eliminated?
Donald Trump
The agency? Yeah, because we're trying to get rid of waste, fraud and abuse.
Forrest Zhu
What's next?
Donald Trump
And didn't I hear that somebody made like $38 million or something running a little agency? What was her name? What was her name and what did she do? And what was. What was that all about? All the money that she made? Does anybody know? Yeah, Brian, go Ahead. Good to see you.
Steve Bannon
The latest CBS poll has your approval.
Roger Kimball
Ratings at an all time high, despite.
Donald Trump
All these controversial subjects and executive orders that you're doing.
Roger Kimball
Want to get your thoughts on that?
Donald Trump
How you really connected to Main Street America? Yeah, I have high approval ratings because I'm, you know, I'm using common sense, whether it's getting men out of women's sports. I mean, have you seen what goes on with the boxers and with the weightlifters and with the swimmers and everything? So ridiculous. And I think it's a 90% issue. And you know the amazing thing, the Democrats are still fighting for it. It's crazy. It's crazy. I think we should go to Congress also have that cemented and you know, make it indelible. But we, you know, it's, to me, it's all common sense. Who wants an open border where, where prisons are dumped into our country, where prisoners are let into our country, many of whom are murderers, many of whom murdered far more than one person and they're now roaming our country? Who wants that? I mean, it's terrible. Steve, I'd like you to say a couple of words about it.
Marco Rubio
Yes.
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Well, as you know, Mr. President, since you issued your day one executive orders, border crossings are down approximately 95%. You talked to agents on the line. In their entire careers, they've never seen crossing days as low as what they're experiencing right now. The cartels, in fact, are enormously frustrated because they've never seen a clampton like this before in American history. There are people who were working at Border Patrol back when it was at INS in the 80s and 90s. They've never seen a date like this. That's because you've mobilized the 10th Mounted Division, the Marines, the entire US military. They're erecting physical miles of barrier, temporary and ultimately permanent every single day. You have all of your border agents pushed to the front line. They're not doing the humanitarian processing quote unquote that Biden was doing. They're doing law enforcement and national security. They're interdicting weapons and drugs. They're interdicting violent high threat criminals. And the US Military is repatriating illegal immigrants at a pace and a skill that has never occurred before in American history. And those who are committing human trafficking and child trafficking are being prosecuted for felony offenses and they will be doing hard time in jail. There's never been a lockdown like what you have implemented through your orders and vision since you took the oath of office.
Steve Bannon
What's Your thoughts on Doge Wednesday at.
Roger Kimball
10Am we're having our first subcommittee going to focus on the fraud and Medicare.
Donald Trump
Yeah. Before I discuss that, I just want to add to what Steve said. And we want people to come into our country, but we want them to come in legally. They have to go through a process, and we have to know that they haven't killed nine people or they haven't killed, like, in one case, five. Five people. And they're out on the loose and we're all looking for that particular individual. This was all led in by Biden and a group of stupid people. Bad people and stupid people. Some are bad, some are stupid, some are both. But I'll tell you what, what they've done to this country, but we're cleaning it up and hard to believe I can say it, it will be better than ever before. But we have a lot of bad people we have to get at. We're searching out for a lot of them. I think Tom Holman and Christie are doing an unbelievable job. Kristi Noem. They're doing an unbelievable job and taking out massive numbers of people. And you notice every country is accepting those people back. Remember, everyone said, oh, they'll never accept them. They're all taking them back. They have to. They're all taking them back. Every single country is taking them back. I don't know if they want them or not. I don't imagine they do, but they're taking them back. Are you going to talk Zeletski Disability? In fact, on Gaza, he talked with Fox News about the billions of dollars we pay for Jordan and Egypt every year.
Roger Kimball
Would you withhold aid to these countries if they don't agree to take in the Palestinians?
Donald Trump
Yeah, maybe, sure, why not? You mean if they don't agree? If they don't agree, I would conceivably withhold aid, yeah. Are you going to talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu about this? Sure. I mean, it's just my deadline, but they may change it. But I think it's. I've seen too many people come out. They look like Holocaust victims from. From many years ago. I've never seen anything like it. I didn't think this could happen in this world today. You know, we think we have a civilized world. It's not civil. These are. These are bad people we're dealing with. So I would. That would be my suggestion. And he can open it up and not open it up, but that would be my. Do you have anything to say about that? You're commerce, but you have a lot to say from the standpoint of your faith and your religion. Go ahead.
Howard
So it's amazing that four years of nothing and then you come in and you immediately start to move the needle. You have hostages coming out. You send Steve Witkoff, who's done an amazing job for you. You're changing the Middle east, you're supporting your ally, Israel. And I, for one, can't be more impressed with the outcomes that you have driven. And choosing this Saturday to save people's lives or just be done with it seems like just the right choice.
Donald Trump
But I think it's time to come up with a date. It's totally. What are we going to do? Keep every. Every week, two people, three people? No, I don't think you can do that anymore. These are very seriously endangered people. These are endangered people. I don't. I don't think they're going to last very long. You know, the people that came out yesterday, they wouldn't last very long. Were you ruling out any US Involvement in whatever happens after this deadline? We'll see what happens. We'll just see what happens. Will you talk with Zelensky this week, sir? Yeah, probably by telephone. He wants to make a deal. Let's see, we'll see. Footnotes. We're dealing with them, and I think they both want to make a deal, but we'll have to see. It's got to be done. What is Zelensky would have never happened if I were president. This would never have happened. Millions of people are dead. What will Zelenskyy have to give up, if anything? We'll talk about that later, because your reaction to a judge today continuing a.
Roger Kimball
Pause on the buyout program for federal workers.
Donald Trump
Well, I don't know how you can lose a case like that. We're talking about people, you know, everybody. I got elected on making government better, more efficient and smaller, and that's what we're doing. And I think it was a very generous buyout, actually. Also, if people don't show up to work, we have a right to fire them and they have an option. They can show up to work or not. If they don't want to show up to work, then let them work. Because then the next step is, have you worked before? Have you worked during this time that you're supposed to be working? You'll find many of those people, in my opinion, have had other jobs even though they're collecting money from the federal government. Many have had, in my opinion, other jobs. And if they did, if they did, that's a big problem.
Steve Bannon
If the buyouts are blocked in court. Will you instead pursue layoffs in federal departments?
Donald Trump
I don't know how they can do. This is free will. This is a buyout where people, you know, they were offered a good deal. Many people have taken that as you know. But, you know, many of those people. And we talk about reporting to work. I happen to be a believer that you have to go to work. I don't think you can work from home. I don't know. It's like there's a whole big oh, you can work from home. Nobody is going to work from home. They're going to be going out. They're going to play tennis, they're going to play golf. They're going to do a lot of things. They're not working. It's a rare person that's going to work. You might work 10% of the time, maybe 20%. I don't think you're going to work I. A lot more than that. Then. I think they have an obligation to work and they have an obligation not to have a second job when they're supposed to be working for the federal government. You're going to find that a lot of these people had second jobs instead of working for. They'll be collecting a federal government check and they'll be working two jobs, and that's big trouble for them. You've said a lot about South Africa.
Roger Kimball
In the last two weeks.
Donald Trump
It's hosting the G20 summit this year. Are you planning to attend this or are you skipping it and telling your cabinet to not? Well, we'll see what happens. But the South African situation is very, very dangerous and very bad for a lot of people. There's tremendously bad things going on, including the confiscation of property and worse. Much worse than that. You know what I'm talking about. And we're not making any payment until we find out what's going on in South Africa. Yes. What's next for delegation? Kellogg going to Ukraine this week, sir? Soon. Yeah, he is. Keith Kellogg. General Kellogg is an excellent guy, and he's spending time doing various things. We have numerous people working on numerous different problems. You know, when I left office, was it long ago? A little more than four years ago? We had no wars. We had no. We didn't have problems. Now we got. The whole world is blowing up, but we'll put out the fires. You've been talking to Vladimir Putin. Are you trying to set up a meeting with him? Well, I can't tell you what I'm talking about, but we are talking as A group also, I think I'd like to make a deal, but it takes two to tango. And so, I mean, you can't give us any more clarity when whether you personally have spoken to. I don't want to talk about it. No, I don't want to talk about it. It's not going to help you to know. But we would like to get a deal done, if possible, only because in my case, save lives. You know, we're much further away. Remember, we have an ocean separating. They don't. Europe should be paying what we're paying. And Europe has done it more in the form of a loan than with us. We just give it. You know, Biden gives it because he's not a smart individual, not a very smart individual. We have people over there today who are making a deal that as we give money, we get minerals and we get oil and we get all sorts of things because why are we doing this? And all this money, we're in for maybe 350 billion, and Europe's in for 100 billion. And Europe's in really, as a form of a loan. In theory, they get that money back. In theory, they get interest on their money. It's a whole different ball game. And Biden is the one that started doing this. Every time Zelensky came here, he walked away with 60 to $100 billion. I think he's one of the greatest salesmen who ever. Who have ever lived. By the way, can you discuss your.
Steve Bannon
Intentions with the Kennedy center, which you're now.
Donald Trump
So we took over the Kennedy Center. We didn't like what they were showing and various other things. And I had a lot of the board members already, as you know, and we have some that will be replaced. But we have, I guess, a whole new group of people going in. I have Rick Grinnell, who's got some experience in that world. He's going to be. He's very good. Going to be handling it on a temporary basis. I think he'll do a great job. But we're going to get some great professionals. I'm going to be chairman of it, and we're going to make sure that it's good and it's not going to be woke. There's no more woke in this country. This woke has cost us a fortune and cost us our reputation, but the reputation is coming back very, very rapidly. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. The penny is gone. Is the nickel next? What about the gun? What about. What about anything? Good luck. The penny is gone. The penny costs this government a Little. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you.
Roger Kimball
Wow. Unbelievable. Days of thunder right there. One executive order after the other. Foreign Corrupt Practices act answered questions on, on Kennedy Center. President Trump right now is a man in full. Is that, is that Forrest still up? Yes. Let's go to Forrest. Forrest, real quickly, we only got a couple minutes, but part of what he talked about, he signed tariffs for 25% on steel and aluminum. But he also alluded to this headline in the Financial Times. US And China said for trade war, Beijing launches retaliatory tariffs. They're also coming after companies. From the CCP's point of view, given where the economy is, how tough is this trade war going to be for us?
Forrest Zhu
Zhou, hi. Thank you, Steve, for having me here. First of all, happy Chinese New Year. This is our Chinese New Year. It's not good for Chinese Communist Party, that's for sure because the economy is in decline and the raising unemployment and the living cost is so high. So that's why a lot of young people, we saw the number, we saw the report that the marriage rate dropped significantly. And I don't think this trade war they will last long for Chinese Communist Party because right now Chinese young people cannot afford the marriage. The Chinese enters into this arrow that people has no low desire or no desire. They choose not to marry, not to have children, not to have a house and not to, you know, work because it's so hard to find a job. The official number for Chinese from the Chinese official for unemployment rate is 20% but the real number actually is more than 50%. That tells you how bad the economy is. So that's why I don't think the Chinese Communist Party will last long with this trade war or this tariff because with the tariff they add on will make it harder for the Chinese people, for the Chinese business. So they won't last long. And Also I think Mr. Trump's tariff add on the Chinese Communist Party is going to be in long term is good for the US People, for the law baixing here because they will bring the manufacturer back and also cut the tie with Chinese Communist Party because Chinese Communist Party using their supply chain, using their so called marketing to corrupt, to Blackmail all the CEOs and companies here in the U.S. they use all the capitals they gain from the U.S. capital market to corrupt officials CEOs in this country, they also do the propaganda in this country. So that's why I think this action, the tariff adding on to the Chinese Communist Party is going to be good for Both Chinese people and the US people because the Chinese people already suffered for 70 years. Now the young generation cannot even afford house in China. Let me give you things in perspective. Imagine you making 100,000 in US dollars but you have to purchase a 3 million to 4 million for 600 square feet apartment in China. That's how much cost for people. It's not sustainable. People are already aware of that. There is a thing in China about 6 wallet because in order to afford one apartment you have to pay from your own pocket, your wife's pocket, your wife's parents and your parents that six pocket has to pull in for the down payment in order for you to purchase apartment. So right now I think this tariff in long term is good for Chinese people because we want to taking down the Chinese Communist Party. I think to overthrow the Chinese Communist Party we have to let the cut all the ties we talked about this long time ago decouple economically, technologically with Chinese Communist Party. That will bring down the Chinese Communist Party eventually. That's good for the Chinese people and the US Law. Beijing, this, this.
Roger Kimball
I think President Trump was. Yeah, yes, President Trump was talking about the retaliatory tariffs. We've got to go. I'm going to have you back on tomorrow because I want to talk about the demographic explosion that's tied to this. But an outright trade war starting between Beijing and Washington D.C. as memorialized in the Financial Times. Forrest, where do people go to find out more about the new federal state of China? Those brave Lao Beijing that stand in opposition to this murderous dictatorship.
Forrest Zhu
Sir, yes, you can find us on Gather, which is NFSC TV and NFSC speaks. You can also find us on the X.
Roger Kimball
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Summary of "WarRoom Battleground EP 704: Trump Seizes Control Of The Kennedy Center"
Podcast Information:
Timestamp: [00:15]
The episode opens with Steve Bannon questioning Donald Trump about his ambition to become the chairman of the Kennedy Center. Trump expresses his dissatisfaction with the current programming, labeling some shows as "terrible" and a "disgrace." He emphasizes his commitment to revamping the center until it operates effectively without what he terms as "woke" influences.
Notable Quote:
Donald Trump [00:16]: "We don't need woke at the Kennedy Center. We don't need. Some of the shows were terrible. They're a disgrace that they were even put on."
Timestamp: [16:29]
Trump announces the full and unconditional pardon of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. He portrays Blagojevich as a victim of political persecution orchestrated by adversaries akin to those Trump has faced. Trump praises Blagojevich's character and criticizes the length of his original sentence, advocating for his reintegration into society.
Notable Quote:
Donald Trump [16:37]: "Rod Blagojevich... he's cleaner than anybody in this room."
Timestamps: [18:28] & [22:32]
Trump discusses the reinstatement of a 25% ad valorem tariff on steel imports, a policy originally imposed in 2018. He highlights the negative impact previous exclusions and exceptions had on the American steel industry, leading to significant job losses. The reimposed tariffs aim to bolster domestic production, restore jobs, and reduce reliance on foreign steel, particularly from countries like Canada.
Notable Quotes:
Donald Trump [18:28]: "It's the beginning of making America Rich again."
Donald Trump [25:36]: "Protecting our steel and aluminum industries is a must."
Discussion Points:
Timestamps: [46:55] & [49:03]
The conversation shifts to the escalating trade tensions between the U.S. and China. Forrest Zhu provides insights into China's economic struggles, citing high unemployment rates and declining marriage rates as indicators of societal stress. He argues that the tariffs will weaken the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) by decoupling economic and technological ties, ultimately benefiting both Chinese citizens and American workers.
Notable Quotes:
Forrest Zhu [49:03]: "The real number actually is more than 50%. That tells you how bad the economy is."
Donald Trump [46:55]: "The CCP will do anything to defeat us."
Discussion Points:
Timestamps: [27:27] - [34:10]
Trump addresses the dire situation of American hostages held by Hamas in Gaza. He expresses deep concern over their physical and mental well-being, referencing the deteriorated condition of recently released hostages. Trump sets a ultimatum for the release of all hostages by Saturday at noon, threatening severe retaliation if demands are not met. He underscores the urgency and human tragedy of the situation, advocating for a cessation of hostilities only upon complete resolution.
Notable Quotes:
Donald Trump [30:01]: "If all of the hostages aren't returned By Saturday at 12:00, I think it's an appropriate time... all hell is going to break out."
Donald Trump [32:38]: "These are sick people and they'll find out what I mean."
Discussion Points:
Timestamps: [12:01] - [36:14]
Trump announces the elimination of the Federal Executive Institute, a program designed to train senior government bureaucrats, citing inefficiency and misuse of taxpayer dollars. He also addresses the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), criticizing its operations under Elizabeth Warren and advocating for its dissolution to reduce regulatory burdens on banks and corporations.
Notable Quotes:
Donald Trump [12:24]: "We're actually getting rid of a few programs that are just a waste."
Donald Trump [36:14]: "We're trying to get rid of waste, fraud and abuse."
Discussion Points:
Timestamps: [27:31] - [38:55]
The discussion delves into the stringent border security measures implemented since Trump's administration began. Marco Rubio commends the drastic reduction in border crossings by 95%, attributing it to the mobilization of military forces and the construction of physical barriers. Trump reiterates his commitment to legal immigration processes and criticizes the previous administration's handling of border security.
Notable Quotes:
Marco Rubio [37:39]: "Border crossings are down approximately 95%."
Donald Trump [38:55]: "They're doing law enforcement and national security. They're interdicting weapons and drugs."
Discussion Points:
Timestamps: [36:32] - [36:41]
Trump addresses his high approval ratings despite implementing controversial policies and executive orders. He credits his administration's "common sense" approaches and strong stance on issues like border security and gender policies in sports as reasons for public support. Trump dismisses opposition from Democrats, reinforcing his connection to "Main Street America."
Notable Quotes:
Donald Trump [36:35]: "I have high approval ratings because... it's all common sense."
Roger Kimball [36:37]: "Ratings at an all-time high, despite controversial subjects."
Discussion Points:
Timestamp: [46:59]
The episode concludes with Trump reiterating his commitment to removing "woke" influences and improving governmental and cultural institutions. He briefly touches upon the Kennedy Center takeover, promising to eliminate "woke" elements and restore professionalism and quality to the institution.
Notable Quote:
Donald Trump [46:59]: "We're going to make sure that it's good and it's not going to be woke."
Overall Insights:
This episode of "Bannon's War Room" presents a comprehensive overview of Donald Trump's multifaceted approach to governance, highlighting his strategies to bolster the American economy, enforce stringent security measures, and reshape cultural institutions in line with his conservative vision.