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WarRoom Battleground EP 711: Mainstream Implosion Over Bongino Appointment; The Overreach Of Lawfare Against American Citizens
WarRoom Battleground EP 711: Mainstream Implosion Over Bongino Appointment; The Overreach Of Lawfare Against American Citizens ...
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- [00:09]
Nicole Wallace
Donald Trump has tapped a podcaster and right wing media personality who once said this, quote, my entire life right now is owning the libs. That person is named Dan Bongino. He will be the Deputy Director of the FBI, the number two at the country's top law enforcement agency. It is a job that does not require Senate confirmation. Not that Republicans have had any objection to any of Trump's picks anyway, but if you're not familiar with Bungino, here's a small sampling of the things he's had to say over the years.
- [00:42]
Dan Bongino
Trump is an apex predator. He's the Lion King. Trump went out there tonight and did what Trump does. He's the shark in the ocean and he acted like it. He lost no one from his base. No one. Shame on us if we don't enter the legal profession and start to pull people out of the doj. I have no problem with Donald Trump investigating Jack Smith either.
- [01:01]
Stephen K. Bannon
And you shouldn't either.
- [01:02]
Dan Bongino
Jack Smith. I never pardon what happened yesterday with President Trump and the targeting of him and his attorneys by this piece of human scum. All of these people targeting him in the Justice Department that have forfeited any semblance of allegiance and fidelity to the constitutional republic. I do not need power drunk pseudo monarchs, little mini tyrants in my supposedly conservative county though, sending out ridiculous childlike amateur hour edicts demanding people wear masks in situations where the risk of transmission is somewhat close to zero. You can take your mask mandate and shove it right up your. The karate man. I never thought it. I never thought I'd have to use it real life. But guess my reminds me of like the House of Baby.
- [01:59]
Neil Pinkston
Remember?
- [01:59]
Dan Bongino
Guess who's backed by House? Geraldo's Bay wants to fight me again. Why does this guy always want to fight me? Why does everybody always want to fight their Bonjino?
- [02:10]
Neil Pinkston
Why?
- [02:10]
Dan Bongino
Why does everybody want to fight me all the time? Do I have a punchable face or something?
- [02:17]
Neil Pinkston
Hmm?
- [02:18]
Nicole Wallace
The conspiracy theories, the outrage, the tightness of the T shirts, all of it surely floats Donald Trump's boat and his music to his ears. It's likely part of the very essence of the reason he was selected. The job of Deputy Director of the FBI of the United States of America is a serious job that affects every person living here, people around the world. It's the kind of job that has to be done well by whomever does it. If the bureau stands any chance of actually catching real bad guys, as the Washington Post reports, quote, the Deputy Director answers to the director serving as the agency's second in command, responsible for day to day law enforcement operations and all of the FBI's domestic and international investigative and intelligence activities. The FBI has 55 field offices, 60 offices abroad, 38,000 staff staffers, and a budget of $10 billion. Managing the day to day affairs of the FBI is a serious responsibility. And traditionally that post of Deputy Director of the FBI has gone to a career FBI agent. In fact, the FBI Agents association says that in a meeting in January before Kash Patel was confirmed, they told Patel this, quote, the FBI Deputy Director should continue to be an onboard active special agent. This has been the case for 117 years for many compelling reasons, including operational expertise and experience, as well as the trust of our special agent population. According to the FBI Agents association at the time, Kash Patel agreed and said that the job should go to a career at FBI agent. Now, Patel either changed his mind or was overruled. But he's given an already wary workforce another reason to be suspicious and distrustful of him. And the FBI now has at its helm what the New York Times describes this way, quote, the least experienced leadership pair in the Bureau's history. Donald Trump's choice of a pro Trump podcaster to be the number two at the FBI is where we start today with at the time was domestic violent extremism. And inside that bucket, by far the largest group of people were white supremacists. What happened to those threats and how might people who are so closely aligned with Donald Trump respond to that?
- [04:44]
Guest Speaker
Well, I think we are seeing that with respect to the January 6th investigations and the January 6th defendants as just one microcosm. And I'm just to be clear, I'm not saying that every January 6th defendant is a white supremacist or for that matter, a domestic terrorist. But the message that's being sent is that the people who are criminals, adjudicated criminals of serious offenses, are set free and pardoned. And the people who investigated January six, which we all saw before our eyes, was something that was, at the time it happened, had bipartisan condemnation, including eventually by President Trump himself. You know, half hearted, but at least he sort of forced himself to say the words. But certainly on the Hill was condemned. The people who investigated that at the FBI, are now sort of the hunted. This is so backwards. It is. It is to me. It is just remarkable what is happening to this country. The fine point of what is going to happen, Nicole, is I think that nothing is going to happen to domestic terrorists who are aligned with and support the policies of the Trump administration. I think that you will see targeting of groups that are considered sort of on the sort of so called liberal side, sort of the antifa Black Lives Matter movements. Now, granted, obviously, if they violate the law and they engage in violent conduct, they should be targeted. But I don't think you're going to see an equal sort of hand here in terms of how people are treated for conduct, not their First Amendment views.
- [06:39]
Neil Pinkston
You see how Dan Bongino, who's a friend and a colleague, fellow podcaster, you know, streaming media and Dan's, I've known Dan since he did the congressional runs back when he just left the Secret Service. Dan, to them, Dan Bongino makes, makes Cash look like Judge Webster. They're quoting Cash Patel now as Cash agreed that it should be life. I mean, they're making Cash look like the essence of probity because Bongino's there as the deputy. Remember, the deputy runs the building. President Trump could not have sent a stronger signal that he wants major changes over the FBI. You put Cash Patel, you put Dan Bongino, you got Emil Bovey and you got Pam Bondi at Justice and you know, you're ready to rock and roll. Things are going to happen. You saw Weissman, too, pivoting that, hey, as soon as Biden got in, you know, the number one threat the FBI was domestic terrorism. That would be you. Anybody that questioned the 2020 election would be you. There's a report coming out of Brazil, in fact, I'll get to later, that the questioning of the stolen election of Bolsonaro, which he's been indicted for, and I guess they're very different, their trials already kind of started on a coup d'etat that they were also looking to target. Yours truly, Stephen K. Bannon in the war room and others, media personalities on the right like Tucker Carlson, who question Lula's victory, the stolen victory of Lula. Well, hey, yo, Brazilians. I wasn't afraid of Nancy Pelosi or the crooked justice system here. I'm certainly not afraid of you guys, a bunch of Marxists down in Brazil who are going to be swept away here quite quickly and imprisoned I think, for many, many decades, particularly the chief justice. That court is the most corrupt thing. I haven't seen a court like that since the Nazi courts in the 1930s or the Moscow show trials. Neil Pinkston joins us, a lawyer. A couple things and in fact, I want to play Neil. First off, Neil, you're in the law profession. When you hear people like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino selected by President Trump to Head up the largest law enforcement in counterintelligence, because, remember, the CIA supposedly is not supposed to do anything domestically. It's all the FBI. From someone in the legal profession particularly. You've been very involved in the Jeremy Brown situation. You're very involved in this Appalachia situation with Tyler Burledge. What does it mean to you as a lawyer when you hear that President Trump selecting disruptors into the. Into what's been heretofore referred to as the nation's premier law enforcement operation? Sir.
- [09:50]
Well, sir, first, thanks for having me, but I think the term disruptors is misleading to the public. I'm a former prosecutor, elected district attorney, and the thing that the president has done and those in his cabinet, in law enforcement that he's chosen is that they understand that the prosecutor's duty's role is to seek justice, not to seek victories through political ends. And I think anytime you have someone in charge, and particularly the President of the United States, that wants prosecutors to focus on facts and law and justice, then that's a good thing for all Americans.
- [10:34]
So, Neil, tell me about that. As a former prosecutor, do you think the wheels kind of came off in the last four or five years or longer?
- [10:44]
You know, I'm not privy to a lot of the private information that those agencies have, but I think it's been made very clear in the last administration, apparently, in particular, that the law enforcement seemed to investigate based upon political bias and not facts and law. And anytime that you do that, any citizen is subjected to wrongful prosecution. And our Constitution and forefathers would not stand for that.
- [11:21]
Let's talk about Tyler first. It's one that, you know, Ben Berkwam went down to, you know, the parts of western North Carolina, east Tennessee, parts of Virginia, Georgia, in the mountains down there, and it was devastated. President Trump has now stepped up. The FEMA guys are hitting it, et cetera. But it was horrible. And some of the broadcasts we had there was terrible. And, of course, we had several individuals that opened up their stores, opened up these campgrounds, they'd set up these refuges to help folks. One of them was Tyler. Then the next thing we know, Tyler's in, and he called out some local officials. He called out state officials, he called out fema. He also called out a couple, three local guys. Next thing we know, he's in jail without bail. And it just raised questions. Can you get us up to date on exactly what's happening?
- [12:10]
He's been charged with some passing worthless check cases. But it's very important to remember again, he's just been accused, he's not been deemed guilty. And that I think we will find that in his cases the correct procedure to charge someone with this type of crime wasn't followed. And any errors as far as bookkeeping went were inadvertent. And I think it's very important to note about Tyler and everything he attempted to do for those in Appalachia that were destroyed by the hurricane and got no federal attention. And through no federal attention, essentially got no state attention. And he shed some light on that through your forum and others. And the issue though is that he told the truth about the situation that was going on in Appalachia. And coming from people, ancestors from Appalachia have lots of respect for his willingness to stand up for the people of Appalachia. But also we're trying to raise some money, restitution for these checks. Maybe we can get those paid off in lieu of any further obligations on his behalf.
- [13:29]
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, are they still.
- [13:30]
Neil Pinkston
I mean, it seems pretty heavy handed for a guy because how are you supposed to make the money to pay the checks back? So why did it happen? Why is he in jail for this situation?
- [13:41]
Apparently the judge indicated he violated conditions of bond release by a new check written. A new check that wasn't valid. However, that check was written during the same time as the others. And there's a process that you have to go through to notify someone to make good on. On a check if it's deemed not valid. And none of that was followed in this situation. And we see that as an absolute defense for Mr. Furtyler. But also he's worked with these people many, many times and is well known and a value to the community. And I think things just got out of hand based upon what light he may have shed on the reality of Appalachia at that time.
- [14:26]
So how do I have you hold for Jeremy, but for anybody who wants additional information or to assist Tyler, where do they go, Neil?
- [14:36]
You know, I think being with your form, they have a go fund for Tyler, Tyler Burleson, and it's popping up their legal fund and that we hope goes. As I said, if there are any checks left not made whole to complete those and let Tyler back out and live and be the productive American citizen that we know he is.
- [15:01]
Okay, now hang on. We're going to play another clip. Thank you, Neil, for that one. We're going to play another clip. You know, we're trying to get pretty involved in helping these J6 guys sort out the adjudication or getting to the bottom of what happened to them and why they were locked up and what happened when they were locked up. Because a lot of this is unacceptable in addition, about getting up on their feet. But I want to play this clip and I want to bring Neil back. Let's go and play from this afternoon's msnbc like pattern like that before just.
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Guest Speaker
Targeting of DOJ employees or FBI employees or whoever is sort of, you know, on their list of people that they don't like. Even if they're not able to prove these underlying conspiracy theories, they'll find some nugget that they can sort of blow up and make into this sort of media circus and have a lot of willing participants on that on Capitol Hill and sort of just stir up some sort of controversy around that and purport to have found something that was untoward or wrong.
- [15:57]
Neil Pinkston
Right.
- [15:57]
Guest Speaker
So I think that that's probably what we can expect that, you know, even if they're going to go in and say, oh, okay, actually the FBI didn't set up January6, for example, they'll find some communication that they're just going to zero in on and blow that up into a big scandal. And you'll have a lot of Republicans on the Hill who will be willing to go along with that. There's just so many threads that they've thrown out there about January6 itself because they're their counter narrative has been changing over the course of these several years. Where initially we went from a universe where there was pretty widespread agreement that January six was bad, to we went to this whole different universe that we live in now where even though polling shows that most Americans oppose the pardons for really violent January six offenders, there's still this enormous contingent of Americans who believe sort of just patently absurd and ridiculous conspiracy theories about January6 itself. And that's, I think, what they're going to be exploiting or finding something to sort of feed the beast to bring to the president and say, hey, look what we found, and blow it up into a big media event. I just think that's kind of inevitable. What we're going to see coming down the line.
- [16:58]
Neil Pinkston
Remember that we'll play that. We're going to run the sprockets off that one. Patently absurd. Patently absurd. This is from the good offices of NBC News and msnbc, by the way. MSNBC had a house clearing today, much more than Joy Ann Reid. We'll talk about this at the bottom of the break. Neil, you saw that the narrative on J6 is 180 shifted you're involved in with Jeremy Brown. What's the story there? Why is he not out of jail? Can you just give people the details? Folks are confused at CPAC this weekend and why he was not there.
- [17:36]
It's not as confusing or complex as possible. But let's start with the idea that originally Mr. Brown was approached to be a paid informant. He refused to do that. He was then investigated by the FBI and others based upon his activities of January 6th, and from that he was charged in the District Columbia Federal Court. That case has been dismissed. He was charged in the Middle District of Florida for possession of devices that run afoul of federal law. He was convicted in that case. He's being held apparently, on that case because someone, we're not sure where in the line of communication feels that the pardon issued by President Trump for Mr. Brown and other J6ers doesn't apply in the fact that it wasn't on January 6th or maybe wasn't at the Capitol. But if you read the pardon, it's events related to and in the government's appellate brief and in some of their search warrant affidavit, they talk about January 6th related activities leading to a search of his residence in the Middle District of Florida. So everyone is very clear that it was January 6th related. Somehow he gets transferred to federal prison in Atlanta. I file on his behalf habeas corpus. Essentially, he's being held through an illegal judgment since he was pardoned. His one of his former D.C. counsel, Carol Stewart, is fighting not only for him, but Elias Konstantinis about getting cases removed. And as of yet, we were told he was being released Today. I have contacted the U.S. attorney's office in Atlanta and in Tampa, and they're supposed to get back with me on whether he is being released or not. And we still await their response on the habeas petition on why he's being held.
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Neil, here's the one. Here's the reason. I think Jeremy Brown's case sticks on a lot of people's crawl and just work with me here for a second. He's a veteran, right? A warrior for this country. They approached him and made an offer to him to be a paid informant. He said, not, no, but f no, I will never do that. Next thing you know, they're trying to roll him up. And now after everybody's been released on President Trump's pardon, it looks like they're going out of their way on payback on this guy. Am I wrong in the direction of this story? Here's a guy that Served his country, very patriotic. They approach him on being an informant and then a paid informant, he says, no chance. Then it looks like vindictively, they come back, they got these charges, and then when President Trump pardons everybody, they've gone out of their way to either slow walk it or, quite frankly, what concerns me, try to keep him in indefinitely. Am I too far off base there?
- [20:52]
No, I don't think you're too far off base. If you look at the bop.gov his actual release date is not listed until December of 2027. His case is really no different. We just need someone with the courage to say that the pardon applies and to release him. Because the other thing that I would argue is that the pardon is an executive power privilege exclusively held by the president. And it's not for someone else to interpret that because that would, that would vacate some of his executive powers.
- [21:29]
Neil, how can people find out more about the Jeremy situation?
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You can find it on X who is Jeremy Brown? Or just search Jeremy Brown's name. You can do it online through any, you know, viable search engine and you will find all types of information about Mr. Brown and those such as yourself, myself and others who are trying to figure out and get him released as he should be.
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Now, Neal, how do former prosecutor you pick up? It seems to me you get involved in a lot of things like this. Why is that? You know, folks that need help, it looks like they're kind of on the down and out or guys like Jeremy Brown that people don't, don't run and try to help. Why do you go from a former prosecutor to the guy that takes on, you know, some of these shaggy dog clients?
- [22:21]
I think that when I was a prosecutor, I had sometimes a reputation for taking on unpopular causes. And as I said before, lawyers seek justice, and in this case, there are justice that needs to be sought. And I'm also one that understands where the prosecution comes from. So I'm able to help people understand both sides of the situation. And I think based upon that, that's why I get involved in, you know, I enjoy challenges and trying to help these people that should be helped.
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And because you definitely take on challenges. Go ahead.
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I'll mention one last thing too to think about with Jeremy Brown is many prosecutors offices across this nation have what they call conviction, conviction integrity units. And if a conviction isn't integrous, if it doesn't stand, then it should be vacated. We know that's the same situation with Mr. Brown. And so if that same philosophy applies in other crimes, of murder, rape, armed robbery, whatever, that we've seen convictions overturned or vacated. That legal philosophy is no different, no matter who it is or what they have alleged to have committed. And we know Mr. Brown has a presidential pardon and should not be held in custody.
- [23:52]
Neil, how do people track you down? Where they go, social media, website, law offices, where they go.
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It's neilpinkstonlaw.com and that's Neil, as it's spelled on your. On the screen. Any A L Pinkston Law dot com. I'm in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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Well, God bless you, sir. You're taking on some good causes. We appreciate you.
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Thank you for having me. I can help anyway. Let me know.
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Thank you, sir. We spent time with some of the J6ers, had an opportunity to. We're going to, we're trying to get help, get that a little more organized. But you hear some of the stories of what these men and women went through. It's pretty, it's pretty shocking. There's some horrific, horrific examples. And you have to ask yourself, and this is what Pam Bondi, Emil Bovey. Right. Todd Blanche over at Main Justice. You're going to have folks at the Southern District cleaning out that rat's nest. You already got Ed Martin, the great Ed Martin. Phyllis Schlafly headed up Phyllis Schlafly's organization for years. And I'm so proud of Ed. I remembered he was a lawyer, but he was really running the Schlafly organization for so long. I'd go out there and give the speeches and work with those folks and just thought the world of her. She was in. I think her last film she made was a film I made that she was a big part of. A star, one of the stars in Fire from the Heartland. Extraordinary woman. He ran that organization. I knew as a lawyer, I just didn't know what, how great a lawyer he is. He. He's lighting up Washington, D.C. i mean, he, he's a brother on fire. You see what's happening. The FBI, like I said, Dan Bongino makes cash look like Judge Webster.
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Disaster.
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It's President Trump sending a signal. He wants it, he wants it shaken up. And Neil just made the case. He says, hey, what we really, they're not disruptors, are really taking it back. The default position has got to be a search for justice. You haven't had that in this weaponization. Just absolutely incredible. Then you have situations like Jeremy Brown. This gets back to the resistance. This is the weaponization of the legal system. Still against President Trump's followers and believers what gets me about Brown the most is that they went to him to be a government informant. He just goes, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. None of the J6 guys. I will never do that. And that's when they came after him. And now they're still having payback on him. It's 100% what it is. And defiance of President Trump. And defiance of President Trump. We need you at the ramparts. Not today. They're working through the budget. Everybody we got, we got work to do. Maybe later this week. But what we can have is you distracted by somebody trying to monetize your title. That's the contract that says you actually own that house that you own. Hometitlelock.com Steve 25. The million dollar triple lock protection. 24. Seven coverage alerts in the middle of the night if anybody's messing with your title. And a restoration project worth $1 million. Back in a moment.
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Neil Pinkston
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, let me get this to my crack team. Welcome back. Like I told you, I'm really proud of University of Arkansas finance professor in discussion today, Philip Patrick, saying he's assigning it to his students. So you're getting like a free college Course undergraduate. I actually say that if you watch the War Room for a year, it's like getting a course in kind of an mba, at least. General management and the geopolitics and the political economy, they used to call it. The political economy was a course you used to have to take. I would call it now capital markets and geopolitics. The budget's getting pretty hammered. They're supposed to, I think, give some details tonight. Now, look, you're going to have a lot of nomenclature come out in the next 24 hours. Just remember, when you hear these massive cuts, Elon and the budget guys are talking two separate things. When Elon talks and he talks about doge finding waste, fraud and abuse and they got these things, he talks about taking a trillion dollars. He's talking the way you should talk on an annual budget that is about six and a half or seven trillion dollars, removing a trillion dollars of cost, therefore cutting the deficit by a trillion dollars from 2 trillion to 1. When you hear the happy talk on budgets, please always remember this. When you hear these massive numbers of 2 trillion and all this, it's kind of nonsense because it's over 10 years. And really, when you look at the way they roll it in, it's always in the out years, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, which is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the year that you're in and the appropriations you're in and the next year. Why is that? Well, first off, no Congress can, no one Congress can bind another Congress, particularly on matters of spending or revenue. They're very persnickety about that. So that's why, and right now we have a crisis of sustainability that we just can't finance. US Inflation is not really going to go down. We're embedding it into the system. The more we keep this massive federal spending, because right now, with aggregate demand having returned from the depths of COVID we're still in a Keynesian stimulus model. What do I mean by that? That we are spending way more than we're taking in massive spending of a stimulus to the economy. We're addicted. It's like people addicted to fentanyl. We're addicted to spending. You can tell us. And you're going to have to have an intervention and you're going to have some withdrawals. That's just going to happen. It's going to be political pain. And who's going to be able to take the political pain and tell the American people, hey, we got to take this pain, here's what it means. But here's what we're building to. Here's what we're doing on the supply side tax cut. Here's how we're trying to get growth back into the system because growth's just not there. Still, the projected growth is under 2%. That does not make it until you get to 3%. I think 3% is really mathematically just the replacement for the, for the full employment. So you need to be north of 3% in 19, the fourth quarter, 19, I believe President Trump hit 3.5%. That's a real number, a sustainable number, not just one quarter. We have some sort of aberration. We're not there yet. President Trump's model in the supply side tax cut, which is Scott Bessner says the last attempt at a supply side cut, which in the war room here we are very supportive. However, you have to be realistic when you talk about the upper brackets and you also talk about some of these corporate, these corporate tax cuts, particularly when you need to get in. In addition to renewing the original Trump tax cuts for the middle class and below, that's for couples filing at $400,000 or below. I would actually make it up to $500,000. But say it's $400,000. You still got to add no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. And the biggest kahuna, no tax on Social Security. And you can tell now they're putting out, I think, false reports. Oh, the no tax on Social Security really going to benefit the rich. No, it's not. It's going to benefit the person getting that, you know, 1100 bucks or living on 1100, 1200 bucks a month from Social Security. It's going to help them even on the margins. Right. And people say, well, they don't pay taxes anyway. Well, hey, they pay enough taxes. So let's take this one off this. So the budget over the next 24 hours and you've already got some people, Spartz in Indiana, Burchett in Tennessee, Massey in Kentucky and others are saying, I just don't see where the cuts are. I see $2 trillion. I see you're allocating some of that to Medicaid, but we got to get details of the Medicaid cuts. I'm all for cutting Medicaid, particularly taking the waste, fraud and abuse. So sleep that side programmatically. Number one, I do think there has to be significant and meaningful work requirements for this. Just like in snap, you have to do that. Number two, all illegal aliens, or even anyone on the margin of illegal aliens have to Be off those rolls. This has get. Has to get back to citizens because the economic distress of the working class. Medicaid is needed now, unfortunately, nobody wants to be on Medicaid. The working class doesn't want to be on Medicaid. They're not sitting here. They're not looking for handouts. People in this country are not looking for handouts. But since you've invited the world here to compete with them for jobs and also to crush the health care, so they all got to go to the emergency room to crush their education. So 2/3 of these schools are teaching English as a second language. How do you expect the American citizens in those classrooms, Black and Hispanic, white, working class, Asian. How do you expect them to get ahead that you invited the world here to crush them economically to compete? That was done on purpose, remember that. And now we're talking about remembering this whole thing that when you talk about. So keep in mind this year, which is the CR on the 14th of of March, midnight, you got to get this thing sorted for this year, which I think is going to be a mess. And not listening to us. You should have gone back to the single subject bills. At least let's have an adult conversation. We got to stop playing hard the football and using the process to obfuscate and confuse people. The reconciliations are kind of a sidebar important, but a sidebar. And when you talk about these cuts, are they meaningful? Are they just another performative drill? Here's how you know it's meaningful. Like I said is when I was doing investment banking, have this concept called ebitda, earnings before interest, you know, appreciation, depreciation, taxes, amortization, all that. All these kind of accounting terms that you add back and you get theoretical cash flow. It can be manipulated quite a bit to kind of be what you want it to be. And we had this saying at the firm, EBITDA is an opinion, cash is a fact. And I would say let's take Mr. Balance Sheet at the beginning period and Mr. Balance Sheet at the end period and see how the cash accounts and the receivables increased versus the payables. Then you see kind of an asset test on what you have as Mr. Cash that's meaningful. This is the situation. We got to strip this back to the basics. We're going to spend 6.5 to 7 trillion. We're going to take in 4.5 to 5 trillion. We have a gap of 2 trillion. Where have you heard this for over a year now on this very topic? War room. What was the first group to say back in 2021, this inflation reduction is going to be. Is going to be inflation. It's going to drive inflation. Right. That everything that's set up to do it will do the exact reverse. Everything they did to try to increase aggregate get back aggregate demand had already been done with President Trump. We were back there, they just threw fuel in the fire and it's still there. We're still having massive stimulation stimulus of the economy. Spending, spending, spending. This is why Massie and we don't agree with Massie on a lot, but on this one, he's just dead spot on. He calls him out, he's standing in the breach. He goes, show me. I don't see any cuts. And here's the thing. The tax cuts and the reconciliation, they actually, they happen right away. In other words, the tax cuts would be. The extension would be immediate. So they extend through. They come through this year through April, was it April 15th. But then the extension would be. So there'd be unbroken chain. So in other words, you would get that money that, that would hit the deficit. And on the reconciliation, the $175 billion to seal the border and deportations would happen immediately. And the 100 billion they want in addition to this fence would happen immediately. All the cuts they're talking about what happened in the out years when they were in Doral, always remember this. When Johnson was there, they were there for two or three days and this is all they were doing besides playing golf and President Trump coming over, talking to him. They came out of there with the tenure of 30 of $350 billion. I think it was. That's over 10 years. That's $35 billion a year on a six and a half to $7 trillion spending. Just forget it. Stop. I don't even talk about it. It's ridiculous, ridonkulous. It's like you're not. If you're not going to be serious, I don't want to engage. I don't have time to engage in a conversation. That's what they came out of. That was their number. If you hear the phrase conservative wins, you know you're being sold a bill of goods. This is why I think it's more important than ever on Birch Gold just to understand and get from Philip Patrick and the team understand why gold has been a hedge in times of financial turbulence. You're going to turbulence on here, no doubt to get to what President Trump's trying to accomplish not just geostrategically, but geo economically. And you're Going to have turbulence. Excuse me, that's going to happen.
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Ben Berkwam
And.
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Neil Pinkston
You'Re going to have more turbulence. And when you start doing these cuts, because you're going to have to have spending cuts, somebody's going to have to step up to the plate and admit to that. Plus the deportations. Ben Berkhom, you spent the weekend with us. You're normally at the border talking about deportations. You were there with J6. Your thoughts, sir?
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Ben Berkwam
Well, look, tie it all together. So first off, first off, the stories that we're getting from these J6ers are just horrific. And we got some of them while they were in prison. Some of them were afraid to talk about them because they thought they were going to get more reprisals while they were in there. And it's just absolutely shocking. I mean, the US Veteran who was. His service was used against him. That was one of the worst to me, is that they're going to use that against you in your. As if that makes you more of a terror threat. But the biggest thing to me on all of this, Steve, is connecting it to the entire injustice system that you experienced that so many others have. What shocks me, I don't know if I've told you this. I have a friend who's in the FBI. And when this first started happening, when they started going after J6ers, because I was there on J6, you remember that? I was reporting right outside. We had smoke grenades going off behind, and we were reporting on what was happening. And I asked my buddy, I said, hey, are you guys coming to talk to me? And he said, no, you don't have anything to worry about. You were just out there reporting. But he said, but I want you to know, they have taken us off. The FBI has taken us off all actual jihadist cases, terror threat cases in the United States, and focused all of our attention on January 6th. Imagine, think about what that means for our country, that these FBI agents from across the country were taken off active Islamic jihadist cases in the United States to focus on American citizens with the entire purpose to shut down dissent. It was to shut down your voice, my voice, anyone who would stand up against this government, silence them. And really, what this points to, and this actually ties to what's happened to Tyler Burleson. Just this system as a whole has been completely corrupted. Where you don't have equal protection under the law, you don't have speedy trials anymore. You don't have any of the stopgaps that the Constitution was set up to protect us for from our Government. Now you have this system where if you have a corrupt government in charge, they can do whatever the hell they want to you, and you really have no recourse against it until you get another government in power. And that's what we're seeing now. You're seeing that system play out. And why are they going after Cash so hard? And why are they going after Dan Bongino so hard? Because they know that this system, when used properly, is going to take every single one of them out. But that, to me, the bigger issue is getting down to the bottom of this beyond January 6th to all the guys that are there unjustly being held.
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Neil Pinkston
No, no, no, we got it. We're. You know, Navarro, Jared and I were the J6 guys as prison reform. But the point you make, they didn't want to bring up because they thought to be treated worse. Folks, they never expected in 10 billion years we'd ever win. Think about it for a second. All these guys are going to be in prison. In prison. And what shocks me is so many of these guys went to mediums. Mediums are gladiators. I was on low. Peter was in a camp that's kind of the white collar, the camps. The lows are you get a lot of bad hombres. I was in a low. A cell block. And cell. However, hey, mediums are gladiator schools. I don't know if I'd survive 72 hours in a medium. That is a gladiator school. And they had so many of these guys in gladiator schools. I mean, that is bad. Bad.
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Guest Speaker
Really bad.
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Neil Pinkston
Lowe's are bad enough. And Lowe's are bad because of the drugs. The drugs are so out of control because these young. They have young, nonviolent drug dealers or drug offenders there that get 10, 15, 20 years in these tiny prisons. When you're in a prison, you're in a very. Not just a cell block. The whole place is small. If you're there for 15 or 20 years and you're a young person, 25 years old, you ain't leaving until you're 35, 40, 45, then you start doing drugs, and the place just gets out of control. None of these people in J6 ever thought they would be out and the people tormenting them. That's why Weisman, these people are so shocked. And they're shocked today when Trump and Trump could not send a stronger signal. There has not been a brother out there as on top of the injustice of J6 as Dan Bongino. I mean, I would say Bongino, we've done a pretty good job, I think. A pretty good job. Dan Bongino's done a great job. So he's gonna be on top of this. He's fierce when it comes to this. And so, you know, you've done so much of this and seen it, but I think over the weekend to have those guys there and tell the stories and now we gotta help them get organized and make sure they get, of course they go up to give a press conference and you've seen Antifa and you've seen blm and they're right up in Enrique's face trying to pick a fight and the Capitol Hill cops are on him right away.
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah, and this is just the beginning of it, guys. I mean, this is what we had the last four years. We're seeing the weaponization of Antifa, blm. Now you got millions of illegals across our country. We've got Hamas, where they're given a green light to do whatever they want by these DAs in these leftist hellholes where conservatives, we do one thing wrong and we're swept up and thrown in and you don't get a trial for four years. It's absolutely outrageous. The worst story I heard though, Steve, that's why I asked him to do it on air, was Joe Biggs. Because I've got three young daughters, I've got a 14 year old, seven year old and one year old. And when he told me a story about his daughter, seven now when he went away, she was three. That she slept with his picture for two years because that was the only way she could see her dad. You think about the psychological torment that was created through this. And you know, that's one small example of that. But that's all by design. Every bit of that is by design. To tell you we're in control, you guys, you do whatever we say. Even if you knew you were completely unjustly treated, you will do what we say because it will get worse if you don't. That is not what our founders intended.
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Neil Pinkston
No, not at all. That's why President Trump is very focused, I can tell you. President Trump's very focused on this. Okay, Ben, thank you. So, Ben, what's your social media? Where do people go?
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Ben Berkwam
Let me. And if I can just say one more time for Tyler, Neil mentioned it, but it's the givesend go. If you guys can support him. It's give send, go help Tyler Burleson. It's up there. You guys can do that. And then my social media @ Real Am Voice, Real America's Voice. And then at Ben Berkwam, I've got a new interview with Tom Homan that's going to be getting released tonight. And then my substacks, Frontline America, frontlineamerica.com. thank you, sir.
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Neil Pinkston
We'll push it out. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. One of the biggest stories in the Washington Post today is about Posobeck back. Poso, but it ain't Jack. Kevin Posobec joins us with, I think, the story of the day about the Gulf of America. The individual came up with that name is our own Kevin Bosobic. Kevin, tell me about this story. It's pretty crazy, but I think you've changed. Not just mapmaking, you've changed. People's kind of really upbeat. Hey, it is the Gulf of America. How did you do it, sir?
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Kevin Posobiec
Hey, Steve, thanks for having me on. I got my America shirt on right here. And, you know, it was a great, great sunny afternoon, great sunny Sunday afternoon. I was just with my buddy out of church and, you know, we came down. He said, let's go get rave runners. You know, it was a Fourth of July moment, America moment. And it really, really took another meaning once Trump really came in, especially against Mexico. It was like a slap in the face to the cartels, and I think we really need that. But, yeah, it's just amazing to see the progression now from Marjorie Taylor Greene taking it on, turning it into legislation. And then Stephen Miller came in and said, why stop there? You know, we got to get Mount McKinley back.
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Neil Pinkston
But hold it. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, hang on. Don't bury the lead. Tell me, how did you actually get the idea? Where did it happen? This is what's so amazing about the story. Tell me about it.
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Kevin Posobiec
So my buddy Johnny and I give him a shout out. We did rent Waverunners out in the Gulf of formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico. And we rented these Waverunners on that afternoon. And we're just cruising around in the Gulf. And, you know, it didn't. I honestly first thought it was going to be the Gulf of Florida, and it just came to me. I mean, you always bring up divine providence on the show, so I can't say it was much less than that. I was really just hanging out and having a great time on the water. So it did come to me while I was on the Waverunner, and I just took a little selfie while I was there and posted it. And lo and behold, I said the proper name come 2025. And I tweeted it. And as you know, and the posse knows, like Jack, Jack retweets a lot of us and, and we got a, a pretty significant audience elsewhere and on Capitol Hill and in the White House now. So somebody must have picked up on it, said, hey, this is, this is a good idea. It's got a nice ring to it. And it was, what, January? I put a timeline up on my Twitter. It said January 9th. Trump says it in Mar a Lago, January 20th. He adds it in the inaugural address and does the day one executive order of it. And here we are then. Then right before the super bowl, he says, it's bigger than the Super Bowl. We're gonna, we're gonna make it the Gulf of America Day every February 9th from here on out.
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Neil Pinkston
Kevin, we gotta bounce. What's your social media before we go? We want people to go see where Gulf of America started.
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Kevin Posobiec
Thanks, Steve. It's gonna be at X, at Kevpazovic. You call me Kevin. And on Instagram, give me a follow.
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Neil Pinkston
Thank you, brother. Kevin Posobic. The Gulf of America, the origin story. We'll be back at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time tomorrow morning. In the World.
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