Steve Bannon (5:35)

And to that point, Jeffrey, I'm curious because a lot of times these narratives, right, that the legacy press hypes up, obviously the American people don't always fall for them, or in the case of the whole constitutional crisis, fear mongering, it's so not rooted in anything substantive that I think it's easy for people to overlook it. But this does seem to be like an interesting narrative. In other words, the ramifications are repercussions, not just domestically in terms of all things finance and just fiscal and deficit and stuff like that, but also internationally, the dollar on the world stage. What do you think, say they run with this narrative? What do you think the potential threats down the line would look like or would shape up to be?

Jeffrey Tucker (6:15)

Well, this is my concern. I think what they're trying to do is panic Trump administration into stopping the cuts and the bureaucracy, stop the, the tax cuts to, to stop rolling back the deep state, you know, to panic them into, you know, you know, lower interest rates, increased spending, that sort of thing. You know, Natalie, my worry about this is that these numbers that are coming out from the BLS and the Commerce Department, they meant, you know, I think they've been manipulated for years. Like I've, I've lost any real trust in these numbers. They just haven't made any sense. The problem is that they're the only numbers we have. They're the numbers that Wall street thinks are, thinks that everybody else thinks are credible. Right. Even if they're not. And I think also here's the other problem. When you have the national media screaming the economy is in terrible shape, that's going to tap into some sense that people have that. Yeah, that's kind of true. I mean, my real income's down. Things are not going well for me personally. I was better off five years ago than I am right now. So they're going to be looking for somebody to blame. And then you've got Trump in office, right? I mean, he is the president and unfortunately, the expectations, I'm not sure about this, but I think there's a sense that Americans don't. Maybe there isn't a good enough public understanding of the lag between policies and their effects. Like a lot of the things that Trump is doing right now are economically are going to rebuild a lot of this country. Very bullish. Long term, but short term, there could be a lot of pain. And unfortunately, that's going to be dumped on Trump's head. And it's scary. And this is just one of many, many threats that are, that are facing Trump from sort of deep state media allied interest groups that are trying to prevent this change from happening and to ensure that the Trump administration is a failure. That's, of course, the goal. You know that.

Steve Bannon (8:33)

Of course. I have, I guess, a front row seat to the attempts to sabotage President Trump and his administration before we pivot. I guess speaking of that to Ukraine, I'm just curious to your thoughts on how the sort of Doge interplay, right, these massive cuts in fire terminations of federal workers. I think today we've already started seeing some numbers in terms of, like unemployment spiking here in Washington, D.C. that having already significant impacts on the economy, not just here in the Beltway, but across the country writ large. I'm curious, first of all, how you think that whole Doge sort of, you know, deconstructing the administrative state is being rolled out. But more importantly, if you could see that sort of ironically or I guess, paradoxically be used against President Trump in terms of the fiscal messaging.

Jeffrey Tucker (9:19)

I don't know what I would do if somebody gave me the job. Okay, here's 2.4 million administrative state employees backed by, with a global welfare state. Take it apart. I'm not sure how I would do that. So I think, given everything, I think Doge is doing a very good job. One of the things, Natalie, that emerged over the last several weeks is the single most startling thing I've heard in my life, in my career consciousness. After they entered the US Treasury's payment portals, after Doge entered there, there was a panicked article in the New York Times written by five former Secretaries of the Treasury. And what they said in that article is that no elected official or outside appointee has had access to the payment portals of the federal government in 80 years. Okay? Now, keep in mind, they're complaining about this. They're saying this is the exclusive preserve the holiest of holies that's only been accessed by a small team of career civil servants since 1946. It turns out it really goes back all the way to 1939. We've not really had any outside experts or outside appointees in that position. And there's this job called the Fiscal Assistant Secretary of State that has belonged to only 15 people since 1939. And Doge just fired the existing guy who had been there 35 years and put in somebody from the outside. But. But even given that a federal judge has restricted their access. Right. So that's sort of where we are. I'm waiting to find out. And, you know, you can. I asked Grok how much money has been spent by the federal government since 1939. In real terms, it's over $200 trillion. So $200 trillion has come and gone from the federal government without any kind of property standards of auditing. Any elected official really having a clear, verifiable industry standard way of tracing the money. They already found $4.7 trillion was leaving the treasury without being properly tagged as to his congressional authorization. This is what. This is the scale of what we're dealing with here. And if it makes you wonder, like, have dark thoughts about what's really been going on, I think that's probably correct. And so Doge is. Is just at the beginning of discovery in some of this.

Steve Bannon (12:13)

I don't know what is going to be a more concerning audit, that of the treasury or Fort Knox and the gold or Ukraine. I think we'll probably find equally concerning results from both of them. God willing, they both happen. Jeffrey, before we let you go, I just wanted to give you a few minutes. I know you really have tracked even from, I think, you know, the Brownstone Institute, which is something that this AUD really respects. You guys are certainly not the war room. We're not too good to check. You guys come at it from a very academic and intellectual perspective. But I think you guys sort of shared our analysis of this war from the get go. I think it only sort of metastasized in terms of the corruption or at least how transparent it became to the American people. But just a few minutes on what we saw transpire in the Oval Office today. I think sort of confirming what this show has been saying for years.

Jeffrey Tucker (13:02)

Yeah. So, Natalie, I think today was an epically important day in American history. And the reason for that is that since all the way since the Great War, Since World War I, American diplomacy has always been clouded behind mystery and strangeness. There's been a kind of a religious aura around it. Magic people in dark rooms doing strange, amazing tricks. And then they go in public and say, oh, our nations are working together. Oh, we have this great relationship. Even we've not really seen behind the curtain. It's never seemed like human before before today. Today the curtain was pulled back and we saw the reality, Right? You know, an entitled mentality. Give me my money. You know, screw you. I mean, the names are flying at each other. You saw frustration, anger, lots of normal things that people have in their real lives and their families and their community. I mean, these are. What we saw today was really without precedent in the history of modern statecraft. And I think it goes along with what's happening in our world right now, which is really exciting. The loss of trust basically in everything is leading to an unraveling of this sort of managerial, administrative state where the curtain's being pulled back, statecraft is being humanized, and we're getting a front row seat to what's really going on in the world, how these people really are and their attitudes they have. And I watching that exchange today, it just, it made me angry, actually, when Trump said, we've given you $350 billion. What have you done with it? And how about a thanks and how about wearing a suit? You know, I mean, it was outrageous. But I think everybody should be deeply, deeply excited and grateful for having a front row seat to what's really going on. The mystery is just fading away and we're seeing the realities, and they're ugly, they're terrible. And I'm glad that at least we have a president willing to be transparent about this and show us what's really going on and be a good guardian of American tax dollars and American interests. So I thought that was a thrilling.

Steve Bannon (15:30)

Thing to watch and very clear why they fought so hard to keep new media out and have been so, I think, hostile and aggressive to the presence of people like myself, Brian Glenn, and all these other new outlets. Maybe we got to get you a press pass, too, while we're at it. Jeffrey Tucker. Yeah, I won't demean you like that. I won't make you suffer through what I have to go through every day dealing with those depraved people.

Jeffrey Tucker (15:54)

I can't imagine. Natalie, I didn't realize we're all learning all these things every day. Right. But I didn't realize until this week the role of the White House Correspondents association and the monopoly they held on access to White House reporting. And how long have they held that monopoly? Since 1914. Did you know?

Steve Bannon (16:15)

Absolutely wild. That's way too long. One year too long. Jeffrey Tucker, we've got to bounce. We got more news to get to in the meantime. Obviously, we love everything you're doing on X on Brownstone. Where can people go to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on?

Jeffrey Tucker (16:31)

Like a lot of people, I can't help but post on X most days and I write every day for the Epoch Times and about once a week for Brownstone Institute, which is my true love. But thank you. Thank you. I appreciate very much being on, of course.

Steve Bannon (16:48)

Thank you, sir, for coming on. We'll have you back on soon. Probably not for the second Trump Zelensky meeting, because there probably won't be one. We're going to pivot a little bit to something that is probably more applicable, especially to those of you who live in Wisconsin. We wanted to bring on, I believe you're the New Jersey coordinator for Early Vote Action. Our audience is, of course, extremely familiar with Scott Pressler. You sort of work with him, work for him. You're his boots on the ground. People may also know, Paula Scanlon, you were one of the brave swimmers who fought this transgender madness, which I guess recently brought home a huge win with President Trump's executive order. I think I saw you at the White House that day. I think this is your war room debut. So welcome. We're honored to have you. But there's some really concerning developments going on with the Wisconsin Supreme Court. A race going on there, of course, George Soros, as usual, pouring in a ton of resources, a ton of funds to try to sort of interfere with that election. I guess we'll be euphemistic. But can you sort of walk the audience through what's at stake there, what's going on? And then on the other side of it, we'll get into what our audience can do to help you and Scott Presser's group out?

Paula Scanlon (17:56)

Absolutely. I mean, there's races going around on around this country that we have to pay attention to. And unfortunately, after winning the White House in November, people are so excited about that. But there's so much work to be done across these states. And what's going on in Wisconsin is, of course, Soros, as to be expected, is pushing money in because they want that Supreme Court. And if they win, if they win the Supreme Court, they can go in and redistrict Wisconsin and we can never win Wisconsin again. We can lose these congressional seats. And so that is really why it is so important that we win this Supreme Court in Wisconsin. We have to. And that's really what it comes down to. And it's just so bad that we have to be on the offense against these big bad actors like Soros. And he's done awful things to this country, and so we can't let him win. So my biggest message, I mean, there's really not much more to it, is if you're in Wisconsin, if you know someone in Wisconsin, I know it doesn't seem like it's an important year, but you have to go out and vote on the Supreme Court race. We have this guy, Brad Schummel running. He is the candidate you need to vote for. And we have to take this. We have to win. We can't let Soros and his big money win, and we can't allow them to redistrict Wisconsin and prevent us from losing other House seats and also losing other lower level seats as well.

Steve Bannon (19:11)

Democrats are obviously super desperate since they lost essentially all levers of institutional and governmental power right in the last election. We've been tracking how they've sort of been outsourcing elements of the resistance, particularly to states where they have either super majorities. I think Politico was just reporting yesterday that every day at 4pm Eastern, every I think of the 23 Democratic state attorneys general, they all meet on some zoom call to try to plot and plan the resistance. And I think elections like these speak to that sort of resistance force against President Trump. You alluded to, you were saying that there's similar races going on across, you know, state by state, similar kind of dark money groups pouring and piling in. Can you sort of give our audience, maybe us, kind of sweeping overview, two of other elections that they need to be on the lookout for, or even election integrity issues where we kind of stand on that front? I know you guys are certainly on the front lines of fighting that good fight. Yeah.

Paula Scanlon (20:06)

Well, Pennsylvania, obviously our favorite state that we've worked on with Scott Pressler. They also have a Supreme Court race, and that one is equally important. We're also working, and personally, this is something I work a lot on, is the New Jersey governor's race. There's also a governor's race in Virginia this year. I mean, there was just election after election, year after year. And I think the thing that we all forget and what I'm starting to see, people, is we are so excited riding that wave off of winning so big in November. Right. We won the presidency, we won the House, we had the majority, we won the popular vote, all of these different things. But this is not the time to let up. And I'm seeing people that I go out into the streets in New Jersey and other places when we're working with these Republican voter groups and they say things like, well, we just won in November. What do we have to do? What do you mean? I have to go vote again? You have to make sure you're getting out and voting in these off years and then bringing into next year is going to be the midterms already, which are obviously very important. We've had previous midterms where we haven't done so well on the Republican side, and we don't want to repeat that. So it's really about continuing to stay vigilant and stay voting. So our big thing, we're looking at the New Jersey governor's race. If anyone watching is in New Jersey, please go and vote. You can vote early, you can get it done. Make sure you go and vote. Same thing with Wisconsin, same thing with Pennsylvania. We have to win those Supreme Court seats. I mean, if you're in Virginia, also vote for a Republican governor. I mean, there's elections every single year. And everyone who's watching make sure you vote. Not just in the presidential years and the midterms, but also in the off years. And that's really what we're trying to work on and encourage people to continue.

Steve Bannon (21:41)

To do and beyond voting. You know, we have a very engaged, grassroots audience. They love Scott. They love everything that he's. He's done. What can they do if they want to get involved with Early Vote action, regardless of what state they live in, but especially Wisconsin, the Supreme Court there is a really important race. What can they do to help you out there?

Paula Scanlon (22:03)

Absolutely. We're always looking for volunteers. Early Vote Action.com. get on there. There are people who can go on and you can send, you can give us a donation. You can help send text messages. People were writing cards during the last election cycle. I mean, we take volunteers as well. Reach out to me, reach out to Scott. I mean, we need all the help we can get. This is the type of thing does not just get done by the big names. It is the grassroots people that get these things across the finish line. And that is really why we won Pennsylvania. It was the desire of the people in the state to do that. So if you are in one of these states where there's a race going on, you need to be active, you need to want to be involved and you will help accomplish this. And that's really what is so valuable about all of this, is it's not, again, a couple of big name people or really famous people, it is the grassroot people that get this done. So if you are watching this and you are just a local, everyday person voting, you can have an impact and you can help win these elections.

Steve Bannon (23:01)

Paula, thank you so much for joining us. If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, not just the early vote action stuff. Where can they go to do that?

Paula Scanlon (23:10)

Yeah, I'm pretty active on X. Follow me at Paula Wise Scanlon. Actually, tomorrow I will be there in New Jersey. If anyone watching is in New Jersey and wants to go to the gun for hire gun range, Scott and I will be there tomorrow registering voters, talking to the people and just really being boots on the ground there. And so I will see a lot of you guys out on the road in many of these states. And I appreciate you, Natalie, for the time and giving us this opportunity to talk. And I'm sure we'll have more updates in the future.

Steve Bannon (23:38)

Of course. Thank you so much for joining us. Have a good one and sounds fun. I hope the Warren Posse shows up tomorrow.

Paula Scanlon (23:44)

It definitely will be.

Steve Bannon (23:46)

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Steve Bannon (32:07)

Can I ask?

Donald Trump (32:07)

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Donald Trump (32:14)

You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us, Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone and we are thankful. I said thanks. You haven't been alone in this cabinet. We gave you three said stupid president, $350 billion. We gave you military equipment, and you.

Jeffrey Tucker (32:35)

Men are brave, but they had to use our military.

Donald Trump (32:37)

What about if you didn't have our military equipment? You invited, you didn't have our military equipment. This war would have been over in two weeks.

Steve Bannon (32:47)

Yeah. I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching that clip. And I think it's because it encapsulates the anger and resentment and dare I say, lust for retribution against not just Zelensky. Right. He's a representation, a symptom of a much broader and more systemic problem. Right. I sort of think of him akin to these World Economic Forum puppets that they've boasted about embedding and infiltrating cabinets across the world. Right. People who represent a broader agenda and they're too dumb or narcissistic or maybe gaslit by Karl Rove and his merry band of idiots at the hey Adams Hotel. Not being specific with any of my examples, but people like him and what you just witnessed today, that is a paradigm shifting moment in American politics and frankly, in American history. And I know for so long President Trump has always been described as a transformational president because he has reoriented the political spectrum.

Paula Scanlon (33:50)

Right.

Steve Bannon (33:51)

It's not just Democrats and Republicans. It's the Elites versus everyone else. But I think what we've seen on full display today is that it's actually just the people who love this country and think that America first shouldn't be some radical policy proposition that should just be the way of the frickin world. Because we're all American citizens, those of us who came here legally. And it's that sect of people against people like Adam Schiff and these warmongering neocons who despite, despite Zelensky being so disrespectful to President Donald J. Trump, who. Yes, I'm sorry, Adam Schiff is your president and he won the popular vote at that. So take that. Still feel the need to put out aggressively hostile tweets dunking on President Trump on the world stage saying that it's actually. And we can toss him on screen. Zelensky, who's the leader of the free world and that he's the hero and that President Trump was the villain during that meeting. That coming from a sitting member of the United States Senate. Now, look, I know we throw the word treason and traitor around a lot, but if you're publicly bragging and boasting for the leader of, dare I say, a hostile foreign country to prevail and be successful over the President of the United States of America, well, then I just think that you're probably deserving not just of the moniker Shifty Schiff, but of something much worse because that's quite treasonous. That thing that you see right there on screen, right. All those people who wave the Ukraine flags and they have the Ukraine pins up, those people need to take those pins off. They need to stop flying the flags after what happened today. Look, they never should have done it, but especially after what happened today. And it's a very strong reminder, right, for those of us who, I don't know, have actually read something called Constitutional and the History of this country, the founding documents, right? George Washington's farewell speech, talking about warning against no entangling alliances. Well, what you just witnessed today is the precise reason why. And Zelensky, who was high on his own supply and overdosed on the, I don't know, K Street USAID mantra, that for some reason democracy needs to prevail over every single other thing, including fiscal sanity and the value of American citizenship, sovereignty and your tax dollars. Well, he thinks he can waltz into the Oval Office and lecture a country that has given him close to half of what, trillion dollars? It shows you how far gone that globalist mindset is. And then the best part, he then goes to the Hudson Institute after, despite President Trump canceling his subsequent presser with Zelensky. But I guess the K Street think tanks will still have him and that shows you how these forces are aligned. So the next time you see someone wearing a Ukraine flag pin, it's no longer, I think, just for the photo shoots and the optics, it's to signal to you that they actually hate this country. And sure, I think we've known that for probably longer than just today, but it's clearer than ever and it's absolutely reprehensible. I mean, frankly, what happened today in the Oval Office, this was so bad for Zelensky. I think we should start the clock. How long until they start calling it probably Russian disinformation? Cuz I don't know how you recover from that one. And I believe we have Congressman Andy Ogles from the great state of Tennessee. Congressman, I would love for you to tee off just a little bit on what we witnessed today between President Trump and Zelensky. And then I want to get into all things counter programming the lawfare that these activist judges are engaging in. But your thoughts on what we saw transpire today?

Andy Ogles (38:09)

Well, like you said, that was a huge error on Zelensky's part. He misread the room. He clearly doesn't know Donald Trump's personality and he got spanked. Holy cow. As I was watching that unfold, I had just done a media hit and I'm hearing it in the background, I'm like, what the heck's going on in the White House? And so I walk around the corner to watch the news report. Again, I was shocked. But look, I mean, as you said, you know, he came in here with his handout. He's so used to just getting bags of cash every time he comes to the United States of America. And enough is enough. I mean, I think what you're going to see, I think, quite frankly, this was art of the deal. I think President Trump put Zelensky in his place. I think he's continuing or going to continue to negotiate for the minerals deal in Ukraine, as he should. And so then it's just a matter of time. Again, like you said, can Zelensky survive this politically when he goes back home? I'm not sure that he can. And quite frankly, if I'm President Trump, I don't know that I would invite him back into the Oval Office anytime soon. But again, Trump has an end game in mind. We'll see what it is. But part of it is going to be the mineral deal. And Quite frankly, to avoid those unnecessary entanglements and quite frankly, perhaps lead us to World War Three. I think that's something that's got to be very cognizant on all of our minds. When you look at this Russia, Ukraine conflict.

Steve Bannon (39:32)

And Congressman, you certainly applied that fighting spirit to. There's so many to keep track of. And I know you've been introducing a lot of impeachment articles, but these judges who are blocking, it seems like at every level, every single executive order that the Trump administration is putting out. Can you sort of walk the audience through the different judges that you have introduced articles against and sort of make the case? I'm sure MSNBC's heads are going to exclude explode when you walk through it. Not just, not just for the Trump third term stuff, but just walk us through why you think impeaching some of these judges is the right course of action.

Andy Ogles (40:05)

Yeah. So if you go to Repogels, actually did a video and identified 11 different judges for different reasons that are defying the Trump administration. I have. So there's four that currently have articles of impeachment that have been drafted or in process. I have two of those. One of those against Bates, and the other is Ali. And so. And so, for example, the Supreme Court had to step in and push back or quite frankly, put Ali in his place, because, again, it was judicial activism. He was trying to force the Trump administration to spend billions of dollars overseas. I mean, that's clearly under the president's purview. James Madison warned us about an overactive, all too powerful judiciary that's come into play right here, right now. And if we in Congress, if we don't do something about, then that's on us, because again, our founding fathers, all those years ago warned us about this very day. Then the other judge was trying to put the transgender transitioning of minors, mind you, minors, back on government websites. Well, I call that child abuse and that dude need to be in prison. But that being said, you know, it's important for us to lay down these gauntlets to have these articles of impeachment. Then I've got to prod the speaker to let me run them. But, you know, when you look at the articles of impeachment in Congress, it's high crimes and misdemeanors. So. So that is very vaguely defined. So you may have someone who didn't actually say break a federal statute, but what they've done, this activism, I think rises to that occasion where they've brought their political party, their political opinions into the courtroom. Look they can have an opinion when they're at home, but their opinion at the bench should be based off of the Constitution and the law, not off of politics.

Steve Bannon (41:45)

Well, and a lot of these judges have it extremely radical left leaning conflicts of interest, whether it's them themselves, some of the statements they've made on the record, the spouses, the family members, the charities that they sit on the board of. But I'm curious, you said that this is all sort of dependent on Speaker Johnson letting you bring these to the floor. First of all, is there a sort of an ideal timeframe on that? Have you had any discussions with him? But do you feel that there is support not just from Speaker Johnson, but from the conference more broadly to pursue impeachment against some of these judges or at least some of the most radical ones of the 11 that you've identified?

Andy Ogles (42:25)

Yeah, I think what you do is you pick the one that's most egregious that would quote unquote, rise that level of high crimes and misdemeanors or misdemeanors in this case, and then we move forward. It would go through the Judiciary Committee. It would have to be blessed by the, the speaker for Jim Jordan to move it. But that being said is I'll continue to prod. Now look, we've been working on the budget, budget reconciliation with the Senate. So that's really taken most of the bandwidth of Congress at this point. We've now kicked it to the Senate. And so as we get back next week, we're in for the next two weeks. I'll work on this and try to build that support and momentum. And quite frankly, I think you're going to see my hope is that the President will come behind it. I know Elon is support that. I've actually spoken to Elon about it. And so as we continue to build momentum, build a coalition, we'll find that one judge because again, once you make an example out of one of them, even if the Senate doesn't take it up. Right. I don't work for the Senate, I work for the American people. So I'm not going to do something dependent on what the Senate may or may not do. What does the American people want us to do? What is quite frankly our job and in this case it is to impeach these woke radical activist judges who again, I mean this one Judge Ali just became a U.S. citizen five years ago. He was a Canadian citizen. He's only been on the bench a year. He has dual citizenship. So I have to ask the question Is his allegiance to the US Constitution or the Canadian Constitution? I do call that into question because right now, the way he's ruling at the bench, even the Supreme Court had to step in to put him in his place. And so we'll see what happens next. I'll continue to push. I'm known for being a politician, but outspoken voice in Congress. And this is one of those things that I feel is incredibly important to our, to saving the Republic. And again, James Madison warned us about the judiciary, and we've got to put the judiciary in its place.

Steve Bannon (44:12)

And I want to link this to some other pieces of legislation that you've introduced. Obviously, we're talking about how rogue actors within the judiciary can sort of subvert, though I guess it's not really clandestine. It's very in your face. That's why I think we don't even like the term deep state. Right. It's the in your face state. But in terms of, you know, there's the ongoing sort of, I guess, tussle between the FBI, the Southern District of New York, Pam Bondi's office over these Epstein documents. Your sort of thoughts on where we stand on that fight in terms of Southern District of New York refusing to hand over documents despite the Attorney General saying that she had the list on her desk. Do you sort of believe the theory of the case being that rogue agents within the FBI are refusing to turn over documents, or have you been able to get any answers on that?

Andy Ogles (45:04)

Well, I mean, I think we've seen President Trump's first administration, you had actors, people in the government that were working for the president under various departments, literally worked against the President of the United States. There was a hot mic just a few weeks ago, someone working Homeland Security saying that they were going to undermine the secretary because they didn't like her. And so as we go forward, these people need to be fired. That's why Schedule F is so important. But specific to the Epstein files. That's why I have the PETO act, the Preventing Epstein Document Obliteration. It requires that these documents be identified and preserved so that the due process can take place and there can be investigations. And look, like you said, the Southern District of New York seems to be hiding or withholding evidence from the Attorney General. Heads need to roll over there. And keep in mind, Pam Bondi's been on the job, what, two weeks? Cash Patel, just a few days. But if they want somebody to go with them and go get those documents, I'll hop in a van and go with them and I'll Help them. I'll roll up my sleeves and load the documents myself. But the American people want justice. I, too, was disappointed in the initial document release, but that being said, it creates a baseline. Pam Bondi sending the message, look, this is what I have. I'm showing you my cards, what I can show you. And I think you're going. She was a pit bull when she was attorney general in Florida. She's going to be the pit bull for President Trump. And so I have high great expectations for what she's going to do in this case. And quite frankly, in the role for the American people. There's a new sheriff in town. It's Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, and they are two great Americans who truly, truly want to serve their country and the president. And so I have faith in what they do next.

Steve Bannon (46:42)

And, Congressman, just, just real quick, before we let you go, where we stand on all things, budget, resolutions, cr, government shutdown, all that jazz. I get deja vu every time we have to talk about this, but unfortunately, the swamp is still swamping. So where do we stand on that?

Andy Ogles (46:57)

Well, you know, we did get the budget reconciliation passed through the House. Now, as one of the most conservative members of Congress, it wasn't quite good enough for me. But we in the Freedom Caucus, we got it. We pulled the conference as far right as we could, so we've kicked it over to the Senate. My guess is that they'll solidify or make permanent the Trump tax cuts. They may change some of our cuts, may make it less aggressive, quite frankly, but it's a step in the right direction. And the good thing about reconciliation, it's a simple majority instead of the standard 60 votes. And so I think we'll also be looking at what do we do with the debt ceiling, because that's something you want to take off the table and not let Democrats hold over the president's head here in the next six, eight, 10 months, once that comes to a head. So as we move forward, we're in a good place. It's not as conservative as I would like, or quite frankly, what you would like, but it's better than the alternatives of had the Freedom Caucus not stuck. You know, we stuck together. We demanded deeper cuts, and that's what we got for the American people.

Steve Bannon (47:54)

Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything that you're working on, all the bills, the impeachment articles that you're introducing. Quite busy. Where can people go to do that?

Andy Ogles (48:07)

Yeah, on X. Just go to Epogles or go to Andyoguls. But EP is the Epogels is the official one. That's where you see in my video. I would encourage you to watch it. It lays out those 11 judges. It's kind of a fun video. We had fun making it. Even Elon retweeted it. So I think you'll enjoy it. Go check it out. And thanks for having me.

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Jeffrey Tucker (50:42)

Good to see you.

Steve Bannon (50:43)

You look good.

Jeffrey Tucker (50:44)

How's it going? Hang in there.

Donald Trump (50:52)

Thank you very much for this.

Steve Bannon (50:55)

Absolutely disgusting. And not just because they treat him like an ally, which again, is way too euphemistic. That's doing a heavy lift there. Frankly, I wouldn't even classify Ukraine as a protectorate. I would say they're the geopolitical equivalent of a black hole or maybe, I don't know, an offshore bank account, except they actually have firepower that we've subsidized. Oh, and just fun fact, if you didn't know, the Ukrainian arms industry is actually working as we speak to set up a new business of exporting arms across the world. I wonder where they found all that surplus. I think they just overturned some regulation on a exporting out. Like I said, arms, munitions, you name it. I'll be very blunt. Volodymyr Zelensky. I guess we're on a first name basis. Although if you say that to the vice president, I can probably call you Vladimir. You are a democracy crisis actor. And the entire Ukrainian psyop war since 2014 has been a false flag to destroy that country, kill your citizens, your constituents, the people who elected you. Because unfortunately, I think if we've seen anything from pandemics or what the World Economic Forum espouses their ideology to be to recreate and rebuild a new country, you have to destroy it first. Right? And you have to build back better. I think I remember someone saying that. And that's why they're so upset over what President Trump is doing and you Ukraine, because under Joe Biden, they destroyed that country. And they thought that all the global elites, including the blackrock and all these swampy investment funds that were going to get to rebuild it, we're going to be the ones who would profit off of it and make the decisions about terraforming it and making into this new, probably World Economic Forum approved country something of that derivation. But unfortunately, President Trump wants the selection and that's not going to happen. And I think for that reason, we should all sleep very well tonight. Steve will be back for tomorrow morning's show. I hope you guys have a good weekend.

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