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Historian
I'm a historian of totalitarianism.
Political Analyst
I look at fascist rhetoric.
Historian
I've been thinking about the sources of the worst kinds of history for a quarter of a century.
Political Analyst
Experts say the constitutional crisis is here now.
Political Commentator
The Trump administration deporting hundreds of men without a trial.
Political Analyst
A massive purge at the FBI to make people afraid of speaking out against him.
I'm leaving to the University of Toronto because I want to do my work without the fear that I will be punished for my words.
Historian
The lesson of 1933 is you get out sooner rather than later.
I've spent a lot of time in the last decade trying to prepare people. If Trump were elected once, let alone.
Media Personality
Twice, look what happened.
Political Analyst
Is this crazy?
Historian
I have to not flee Trump. But if people are going to leave the United States or leave American universities, reasons for that. One thing you can definitely learn from.
Political Analyst
Russians is that it's essential to set up centers of resistance in places of relative safety.
Historian
We want to make sure that if there is a political crisis in the US That Americans are organized.
Media Host
We've just gotten started.
Political Analyst
You haven't even seen anything yet. It's all just kicking in.
Historian
My colleagues and friends, they were walking around and saying, we have checks and balances, so let's inhale checks and balances. Exhale checks and balances. And I thought, my God, we're like people on the Titanic, saying, our ship can't sink. We've got the best ship, we've got the strongest ship. We've got the biggest ship. Our ship can't sink. And what you know as a historian is that there is no such thing as a ship that can't sink.
Media Personality
The golden age of America has only just begun.
Political Analyst
America has long had an excitement. Exceptionalist narrative fascism can happen elsewhere, but not here.
Historian
But talking about American exceptionalism is basically a way to get people to fall into line. If you think that there's this thing out there called America, and it's exceptional, that means that you don't have to do anything. Whatever is happening, it must be freedom. And so then what your definition of freedom is just gets narrowed and narrowed and narrowed and narrowed, and soon you're using the word freedom. But what you're talking about is authoritarianism.
Political Analyst
Toni Morrison warned us, the descent into.
Historian
A final solution is not a jump. It's one step and then another.
Political Analyst
And then another.
We are seeing those steps accelerated right now.
Historian
There are some words in Russian in particular that I feel help us to understand what's happening in the United States, because we now have those phenomena. It's the Idea that the powers that be can do anything they want to you and you have no recourse. This not knowing who is next creates a state of paralysis in society.
Political Analyst
The Tufts student whose visa was removed because she co authored an article in the Tufts student newspaper.
Historian
I thought, what would I do if guys in masks tried to grab my student? Would I scream? Would I run away? Would I try to pull the mask off? Would I try to videotape the scene? Would I try to pull the guys off of her? Maybe I would get scared and run away. The truth is, I don't know. Not knowing terrified me.
It's a deliberate act of terror. It's not necessary. It's just being done to create a spirit of us and them.
Prodasinozht. It's a word in Russian for corruption, but it's larger than corruption. It refers to a kind of existential state in which not only everything, but everyone can be bought or sold.
Political Commentator
Critics are calling this a quid pro quo deal between Adams and President Trump.
Media Host
I'm committed to buying and owning Gaza.
Political Analyst
He made 2.5 billion today, and he made 900 million.
Historian
There's an expression in Polish. I found myself at the very bottom, and then I heard knocking from below. In Russian, that gets abbreviated to there is no bottom.
Political Analyst
We cannot allow a handful of Communist.
Radical left judges to obstruct the enforcement of our laws.
Historian
What starts to matter is not what is concealed, but what has been normalized. There's no limit to the depravity.
Political Commentator
Did not rule out the possibility of.
Historian
A third term and the sadism.
Political Commentator
The White House released this video titled asmr. Illegal alien deportation, flight and the cruelty.
Historian
That we are watching now play out in real time.
Political Analyst
This facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use.
Historian
You have to continually ask yourself the question, is this okay? Is there a line I wouldn't cross? Is there something I would not do?
People say, oh, the democrats should be doing more. They should be fixing things. But if you want the democrats to do things, you have to create the platform for them. You have to create the spectacle, the pageantry, the positive energy, the physical place where they can come to you.
Political Analyst
Poland recently went through a shift towards authoritarianism. Unlike in Russia, unlike in Hungary, the media remained a place in Poland where you could criticize the regime. And as a result, democracy returned. The moral of Poland is that our democratic institutions, the media, the university and the courts are essential. You know you're living in a fascist society when you're constantly going over in your head the reasons why you're safe. What we want is a country where none of us have to feel that way.
Media Personality
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Political Analyst
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Media Personality
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Media Host
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K.
Political Commentator
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Political Analyst
Here in the War room. It's Thursday, May 15th in the year of our Lord 2025. It's Natalie Winters holding down the War Room today, again, another historic day. Sorry to have probably triggered you with that extremely cringe opening, but we had to play that in full. Just absolutely wonderful. What a bunch of feckless cowards who've made what, their decades long careers off of telling people how to fight autocrats and whatever they want to smear President Trump as apparently they can never let the Russian thing go. They have to talk about. The Russian dictionary says that this is what MAGAs do. Absolutely. Clowns, say what you want about the MAGA movement. Even when times got really tough, we never fled this country. And I think there's quite a tacit admission in the fact that they're willing to flee the United States of America for buried lead Canada. So we're not really going that far. But I digress and maybe if we annex Canada, then that'll all be for nothing. But we never left this country, even when things got really tough, when people like Stephen K. Bannon were sent to prison. But that's because those people don't care about this country. They think it's theirs to astroturf and manipulate. And now they're in retreat like the cowards that they are. But jokes aside, the theatrics and weird theater kid antics aside of that horrible video we just watched, I think the buried lead of that is quite concerning and I think it confirms, vindicates a lot of the reporting we've done here in the war room. The idea that there is no meaningful distinction between foreign policy and domestic policy. In other words, the color revolutions that they've orchestrated abroad People like Norm Eisen, probably the CIA, all that type of lovely people, that that's now essentially what they're doing here to oppose President Trump. And the buried lead of that video is when they say, well, actually the way that Poland was able to prevail, right, it wasn't Hungary, which, remember, we always have called out Hungary as sort of this example that they want depict the United States as being similar to. Because think about the way that they've tried to wage lawfare and oppress Viktor Orban. That's what they've essentially done to President Trump in the MAGA movement. But when they say that Poland was able to, you know, crawl back from the depths of a MAGA style autocracy, what did they say? It was through the media and the courts and the protests in the streets. And is that not exactly what we're seeing here and exactly what we've been warning about you guys for I don't even know how long. And I'd also add, what was it? I think nine out of 10 media outlets in Ukraine were actually funded by USAID. So your tax dollars. I'd love to get the numbers on Polish media. You know, when they say media, they're not talking about, you know, independent Polish journalists, they're talking about basically the pro democracy, the pro rule of law, the pro human rights organizations, whatever the heck that means. Propaganda, hardcore lawfare. We see that going on here with the judges and the NGOs, which, by the way, we're gonna get to John Mills in a sec. But just to tie a nice big bow on all of this, as I was walking here, I stopped outside of the Supreme Court and it was a perfect amalgamation of, I think that video we just played. I actually saw people from Casa, Maryland, you may recall. That's the group that. Not just that they take money from. Mark Zuckerberg. I digress on that point for a second. But they're the ones alerting people ahead of time for ICE raids, letting you know, hey, the criminal illegal, that's your neighbor who once should probably be deported. And by probably, I mean definitely giving them advance notice so they end up ultimately not being deported. So I saw a bunch of them around that protest, obviously having to do with the birthright citizenship stuff. A lot of protesters, they were just speaking in Spanish, so I don't know what they were saying. Probably nothing. America first. Call me crazy, but I was able to scoop. I guess maybe that's a L for me because I guess I look like one of the protesters, but a sign. American born Children are American children. If you can read that, I would humbly say hell no to that. If you are an anchor baby, you're not American. Even if you're an H1B or whatever panoply, a visa recipient you may be, that does make you American. America is a country, not merely an idea. And to have a country, you must have strong sovereign borders, not just on the southern and northern from a physical perspective, but also the idea that people cannot just fly into this country, give birth to an anchor baby, and then use chain migration to bring their entire family and I guess, all their friends from backwards third World hell holes and call yourself an American. That is the ultimate status symbol that everyone wants to be. Just look at what's been going on in the Middle East. Just because you're born here, that does not make you an American. I know the Claremont Institute people like John Eastman have been really ahead of the curve on all of that, that scholarship for a very long time. But this issue was quite a, I guess you would say, reification of everything we talk about, from the NGOs to the lawfare taking place outside of the Supreme Court. So I guess I would like to dedicate this then directly to Norm Eisen, because American children, you're not just one of those, because you're born in this wonderful, great country. And on that note, maybe we'll have to frame this. Or I can go back to the protest after this with the ripped sign. I might not return. But, Colonel Mills, I think you join us now, I'm sure you probably share my feelings towards wanting to rip signs like that. There's a lot that I want to get into with you. A bombshell story about the Chinese cartels laundering money through American banks. But before we get there, if you could just give us kind of a synopsis from your perspective, what you think we've been seeing unfold in the Middle east with President Trump.
Political Commentator
Well, thank you, Natalie. An honor to be on the show with you. So many things to break down from this historic visit of President Trump to the Middle East. But just look at the magnificent treatment and the authenticity of the love. The Saudis, uae, Jordan, Egypt were treated horribly by the Obama Biden team. Horribly. And it's like they've been actually very good friends and allies of people don't realize how helpful they've been in so many ways. And the Biden Obama team just despised them. And then when they started going toward China, you know, they were saying, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. So you're seeing this authenticity of love and support. I mean, it was like unbelievable. They were treating him as just a, I hate to say it, a conquering hero. He just, they appreciated him. Then he goes to guitar and he gets his phalanx of cyber trucks and then also met with hundreds of tribal members on camels. I mean, that was just epic. Epic. They never would have done that for Biden, Obama or any of that ilk. So great support. We'll see what happens with Syria. Interesting posit on Syria. Still a very messed up place, very factionalized. But hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Try to bring them into the world of potential strategic partners. A lot of this is a poke. Is not just a poke, a punch at Iran. And again, even with Iran, what we're trying to do is peel Iran away from China. Will it work? I mean, Iran wouldn't exist right now if it wasn't for illegal purchases of gas and oil by China. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. I have to try to shut down their nuke program and peel them away from China. So just epic historic events going on in the Middle east with the President's trip.
Political Analyst
And speaking of the broader reorientation, I think there was some outrage over what the Chinese Communist Party was doing, I believe with Venezuela. Russia was maybe sort of loosely linked or just sort of changing where sanctioned oil was coming from, saying that it was Brazilian as opposed to Venezuelan. Can you kind of walk us through what may be the PRC's counter to this kind of reshuffling, or not even reshuffling, but maybe reassertion of American global hegemony, at least just being respected, I guess feared and loved. Take that, Machiavelli. But your assessment of what China is doing sort of in response to this, well, they're running.
Political Commentator
They have created a second world economy. I don't think the Chinese even realize that because they want to get out from the almighty US Dollar as the reserve currency. So they're playing all kinds of games now. The Obama, Biden, Harvard, Belfer center crowd, they just set sanctions and walk away. You can't set and forget sanctions. You must constantly assess them, Red team them. Now this China is getting gas and oil illegally from Russia, from Iran, from Venezuela. Now one of the primary reasons we can't do a whole lot about it until the Trump buildup hits, the US Navy is our feeble US Navy that is just a shadow of what it was. If we had a stronger US Navy and even Coast Guard say, say that a Coast Guard that has a much more expanded role, we could actually interdict this Worldwide ghost fleet that is running circles around the Obama Biden sanctions. That's what's going on. China's getting all this gas and oil illegally. And until we have a way to do something about it, not a whole lot we can do about it.
Political Analyst
Speaking of evading sanctions, I think people always like to talk about what the PRC is doing in terms of, you know, expanding trade access. I'm like, that's way too euphemistic. This is full blown economic. I don't think they actually want to, I don't know, trade with the Africans or trade with the Venezuelans. They want to seize all of their ports and infrastructure. I guess it's more than economic warfare. You could even make the case in some ways that it's marginally kinetic. But there's been a new bombshell story breaking in the Wall Street Journal talking about how Chinese cartels are essentially, or rather the Chinese Communist Party, I guess Freudians live there, are taking money from the Sinaloa cartel for Mexican drug cartels and then laundering it through American bank to pay off individuals. Can you, I mean, even for me, that's wild. Can you walk us through what's going on there?
Political Commentator
Well, Natalie, great minds think alike. I saw that, that story first thing this morning and immediately I said, this is a big deal. The Wall Street Journal, which has kind of become the paper of opposition, of record, record for the opposition. Some ways this is a great article and it really walks through the money laundering that is going on. I mean, boiled down simply, Chinese nationals inside of America, Chinese nationals might be Chinese, an American citizen of Chinese origin, but more likely, more often, it's really Chinese here on a visa status, are using yuan, the Chinese currency, to buy cash, buy cash from the Sinaloa cartel, which is high cash. All that cash is coming from a fentanyl primarily using to kill 80 to 100,000Americans a year. So this is a way for the Chinese to get around international sanctions and get access to the almighty dollar because they need dollars for to conduct large transactions. Now the article kind of implied that this was the Chinese were doing this without the knowledge of the Chinese government. Are you kidding me? This is absolutely, this is absolutely willful because this is. These Chinese are violating Chinese law by the Chinese government is the CCP is part of it, believe me, but it's a map. This is why high cash operations are always dangerous. Now again, we don't want Big Brother, we're concerned about Big Brother. Yeah. But high cash operations, whether it be, well, drug sales, legal cannabis, scourge Gambling, abortion clinics. This is huge, huge opportunity for malfeasance. So this is a humongous Chinese money laundering access. Money laundering program to get access to the dollar generated in this scenario. But it's more than just that. All of the fentanyl sales from the, from the cartels in Mexico, I think.
Political Analyst
They call that what, unrestricted warfare. I guess. It's a heavy prop show though. I like this one much better than the sign I was holding up last time. Colonel Mills, I always love having you on because you get it all, always, all roads always lead back to the prc. Economic warfare, information warfare, I guess maybe almost kinetic or otherwise, or all of the above. In the meantime, before we have you back on, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to do that?
Political Commentator
Well, thank you, Natalie. ONSTACK It's Colonel Rhett John. Colonel Ret John on Substack, Colonel Ret John 2, Colonel Rhett John 2 on X. And thank you very much, Natalie.
Political Analyst
Pleasure is all mine. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Warren. Posse, you know, we've been drilling down on the copyright office stuff lately. Also the AI semiconductor chip deals that I think have gone through with essentially being just one step away from giving the Chinese Communist Party, obviously known for their military, civil fusion, the advanced tech chips, semiconductors, whatever that they may need to propel their advancements, whether it's made in China 20, 25 or otherwise, but particularly in the field of high grade weapons. But I think we sort of hammered down something which is the idea that there's almost this element of consensual intellectual property theft. Right. We know what we're getting into. When you turn over certain technologies, not maybe directly to the Chinese Communist Party, but at least to their intermediaries. And I think when you look at what our policy on immigration has been, not just talking illegal, but particularly from the legal framework, obviously the H1B issue, which war room has always been proud be ahead of the curve on, it's this weird sort of, I think, consensual demise, destruction, really writing our own eulogy of the United States of America, particularly for American workers and American wages. And I would say I'm disheartened we're gonna have someone on to explain it, Kevin Lynn, who's an expert really in all things H1B and just tech worker policy. But I'm very disheartened that we're seeing the new numbers come out and I think it's upwards of 120,000 or so. New H1B visas being administered for fiscal year 20. If I am correct on all of that, that is not MAGA at all. And I think that that's really going to be a defining issue. As you see the two sort of, you know, tech bro and maga, kind of more war roomy camp, continue to have the arranged shotgun marriage that we've sort of had. There's no room for compromise on the H1B issue. It's something I'm extremely passionate about because all of the science, science and white papers and media fear porn that you've seen about how there's a shortage of workers and the people that we're importing the best and the brightest. It's completely fake, completely astroturfs. It makes astroturf, it makes the COVID 19 vaccine science look good. And that says a lot. Kevin Lynn, I'd love to bring you on. We've got a few minutes and I'm gonna have a nice cold open for you after we return from break. But if you can just sort of give us the top line assessment of these new numbers for 2025 or 2026 and just why they're not necessary. But like I said, we'll definitely get into it more after the break.
Break.
Policy Expert
You're absolutely right. Fiscal year 2026 has been approved. It's 120,000. Fiscal year 2025 was 135,000. Now, between 2022 and 2025, we brought in 583,000 H1B visa workers. And get this, we have had over 404,000 layoffs from the tech sector between 2022 and 2025. That's the bottom line. These workers are not needed. AI and I really would like to dive into. AI is not the issue. Microsoft just laid off 6,000 people. They're fat in terms of H1Bs and their appetite for more. And most of the people they laid off were AI oriented. AIR is not what's killing jobs. What's killing jobs is the H1B visa program and other programs like STEM, OPT.
Political Analyst
And a lot of these numbers. From what I understand, what's publicly available is sort of just the tip of the iceberg because it doesn't often count VISA overstayers or even like. It's very murky. Right. To get these numbers. So would you posit that it's probably even more.
Policy Expert
I don't know why my Siri just came up. I have no idea why Siri stopped. Sorry about that. Siri got turned on. Can you hear me?
Political Analyst
It's big tech sabotaging you. Yes. You're all good.
Policy Expert
Yeah, I think so. Absolutely right. Because what we don't see are the L1 visa. What's not typically reported are the L1 visas. The intercompany transfers that come over each year. For instance, the person that kicked off the great H1B visa kerfuffle over the holidays. Sriram Krishnan. He originally came on an L1 visa from Microsoft. That's how he got to the U.S. we're not looking at STEM. STEM science, technology, engineering, Math, Optional practical training. An employment authorization doc that gives any foreigner who graduates with a STEM degree a three year work permit here in the US and they're preferred because. Well, the employer doesn't have to pay FICA or Social Security on them and they can pay the them. Unlike the H1B where at least there's a prevailing wage, albeit low. There's no. They don't have to pay a STEM opt worker anything if they don't want to because it's practical training.
Political Analyst
Kevin, if you can hang with us through the break, it's the, it's the great replacement. I mean it's in your face and it's the great reduction of American wages. And I just take so much offense I think to the lack of, I think faith that the tech bro right. Or Democrats establishment Republicans have and the brilliance and the genius of American workers. We don't need to import people who don't speak English and got fake diplomas from third world country diploma mills. It's just sorry to Media Matters to call it out how it is, but that's the truth. Americans, we're capable. We built this great country. We don't need to import other people to keep doing that and keep up that legacy, let alone making us train our replacements. Warren Posse, if you can hang with us through the break and in the meantime make sure checking out my Patriot supply you can use actually don't even need a promo code. You get an automatic discount. How's that make it easy? My patriots apply dot com. We'll be right back after the short break.
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Political Analyst
Court hears arguments this morning on a major national question, the question of whether a single judge can make a decision.
Media Personality
That applies to the entire country.
Political Analyst
The details of the case involve President Trump's executive order to restrict which children born in the US can be US.
Media Personality
Citizens, also known as birthright citizenship. Jan Crawford is at the Supreme Court.
Political Analyst
Court for us watching it all. Jan, good morning. What's at stake here?
Political Commentator
Well, good morning. So the Trump administration is saying that one federal judge can't dictate national policy for everyone, while opponents say the alternative would be legal chaos. Now, we talked to an undocumented pregnant woman. She's seeking asylum. She asked us not to show her face. This expecting mother says she dreams of her baby girl being born an American citizen. She worries without birthright citizenship, her baby could be deported back to Guatemala with her if she's forced to leave, where they both would be unsafe. But judges across the country are rejecting President Trump's efforts to end automatic birthright citizenship, three of those judges applying their rulings nationwide. President Trump has blasted those decisions, calling on the Supreme Court to act. Juan Parano, head of the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights organization, disagrees. What is your concern if the court says no nationwide injunctions?
Policy Expert
Well, then you're going to have lawsuits effectively filed in every single state. It's going to tie up the courts and individuals may lose their protections under the Constitution if that happens.
Political Commentator
The Obama and Biden administrations opposed national injunctions, arguing judges in conservative states like Texas, where opponents chose to file lawsuits, were dictating national policy. Now the shoe is on the other foot. A CBS News analysis of more than 300 lawsuits filed against the Trump administration found that outside of Washington, D.C. the most are in liberal Massachusetts, followed by Maryland, California, and New York. West Virginia Attorney General J.B. mcCuskey says that shows why it's a problem when these rulings apply nationwide.
Media Personality
People begin to look at circuit judges as an extension of the political process. And that is is fundamentally disastrous for the way that the public views the impartiality and the power of our court.
Political Commentator
Disastrous why?
Media Personality
Because the court is nothing if it doesn't have its integrity.
Political Commentator
Now, the use of these sweeping injunctions has been growing significantly in recent years. There had been 39 of them so far blocking President Trump's policies in his second term.
Political Analyst
Welcome back to the War Room. We're still joined by Kevin Lynn, someone who has been pushing back against just the outrageous flood of lies that presuppose that we need to import a bunch of people who don't really even oftentimes speak English all that well to replace you at your job. I find it extremely insulting and just, I don't know, I would take long odds on the American people call me an American supremacist. I think that's never bet against America. Right, Exactly. Although the tech bros. I think they need to get on, on board with that. I have always said that I think to supplement the tariffs that, you know, restrictions on these H1B visas would have been a great policy too, because I think it comes from a similar vein of protectionism of American workers and wages. But walk through the sort of fake idea that it's AI and automation that's stealing all these jobs.
Policy Expert
Oh, absolutely. You know, right now, just the last couple days, the oxygen is being sucked out of the room over over 50 white refugees from Africa. And yet no one is talking about the 120,000 H1B visas that were approved for 2026. I mean, here in 2025, we had 135,000 already that came into the country. And this is at a time when between 2022 and 2025, we have had over 404,000 and job cuts or layoffs from tech companies here in the US and at the same time, between 2022 and 2025, we brought in a total of 183,000 H1B workers alone. And this doesn't include programs like STEM, OPT, and the L1 visa, you know, for instance. And the air is an important angle because that's what's being, that's the problem. Propaganda, Natalie, that's being used to say, oh, wow, we're shedding tech jobs because of AI. Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Microsoft just laid off 6,000 works, mostly AI engineers. And again now we're bringing in 120,000 H1BS. And you can bet they're highly subscribed to the H1B visa program. And the thing is this. There's absolutely no proof, proof that AI is causing these layoffs. But we know what it is. We know it is the H1B visa program that has been used since 1990 to displace American white collar professional tech workers. And now it's not even limited to tech workers. We have accountants, all back office operations being outsourced using H1B visa dependent consulting firms, which is step one. After you do the knowledge transfer between the American and the H1B visa worker, those jobs are being offshored to India where 75% of our H1B visa workers come from.
Political Analyst
It's disgusting. I find it quite analogous to the idea that we can't reshore manufacturing jobs because you know, Americans won't do those jobs. Kevin, before we let you go, how fixed are these numbers? Is there any room for phone calls to be made to members of Congress? Is this a White House thing? Is there anything to be done or can we only start making changes in 2027 or what is there to do?
Policy Expert
We saw recovered when we had the restrictions put on immigration. We cut off the stream of H1BS and all of a sudden the layoffs of Americans ended. The President is well within his authority. If there is not a need for these workers and there is not a legitimate need other than to increase the supply of workers who are more than willing and eager to displace Americans, that can be done. I've mentioned STEM optional practical training. This is a three year work authorization document that's given to any foreign student who graduates with a STEM degree. Now understand why this is so popular among employers. Because employers don't have to pay the employment taxes like Social Security and FICA. And moreover, unlike the H1B where there's a prevailing wage, albeit lower than it should be, and it's set low because it's used to displace Americans because they can bring in cheaper workers they don't have to. On a STEM opt, the employer decides what they're going to pay them because. Because it's practical training. Now STEM opt and ulcer program, H4EAD, which is used to employ spouses of H1B workers. These are classic cases for deference. This is Chevron STEM OPT was a backroom deal between Bill Gates and Michael Chertoff. This was not legislated into being. This work authorization that actually is more subscribed to than the H1B visa program. If you could imagine that, that this could be simply overturned. And it should be overturned as well as H4EA, the H4, the spouse employment authorization document that can be overturned by the Trump administration. Because again, when we went on Chevron, we demonstrated that these agencies should not be allowed to actually legislate. And what. That's what they were doing. They interfered with immigration law. They created whole new categories of workers to bring into this country to be used to displace Americans. So STEM OPT H4EAD should be gone tomorrow. And as far as the 120,000, because remember, the fiscal years begin in October. These 120,000 that you had started the conversation off with, they have yet to arrive. They can be halted midstream. The President has within his capacity to do that.
Political Analyst
We're gonna have to be all over that. I really think there's no issue that the American people have been more gaslit on or lied to than particularly the H1B legal immigration issue. It's quite insulting, right? Where apparently we're gonna beat China in the tech race by giving out, I guess the second largest country of H1B recipients is China. By giving out out visa visas to people who are potentially beholden to the interests of the PRC.
Policy Expert
Exactly, Natalie. As in China, how many H1BS they needed to leapfrog us in AI? The answer is zero. They didn't need foreign workers. In fact, the majority of the people working at at Speke were Chinese nationals who did not study abroad. So this whole thing about, oh, oh, we need these foreign workers, number one. And this is really important, if your audience doesn't know this already. People are selected for the H1B visa not on merit, not on quality, but it's a lottery. It's purely random. Someone with a B Tech degree from a community type college has just as much chance of getting an H1B visa as someone who has a PhD in computer science from Indian Institute of Technology. These are not the best and brightest, and they are being used for one purpose, and that is to displace Americans. I have a good friend, he's a retired scientist who worked at Lawrence Livermore. And a few years ago we were talking about this, he looked at me and said, kevin, Kevin. Even back in the 60s, they thought we were expensive. So it's something they've always been able to do. The H1B was instituted with the Immigration Reform Immigration act in 1990, and it was created for the sole purpose of displacing Americans. And that can be legislated out of existence, but certainly the president can involve himself in the 120,000 that are coming in and he could, if he desired, end stem opt and H4EAD overnight.
Political Analyst
Even if you steel man it, it's still a horrible program. Kevin Lynn, thank you so much for joining us. If people want to get in contact with you, follow everything that you guys are doing. Learn how we can push back against this. Where can they go to do that?
Policy Expert
Best place to find us is on xstechworkers.com go to our website sign@instituteforsoundpublicpolicy.org you can sign up for our bi monthly newsletter and more importantly, donate. The more resources we have to fight this for fight, the more effective we can be. And Natalie, I just want to say to you and everyone in the war room, real America's voice, thank you. Thank you for your enthusiasm on this because it is you sounding the alarms. You keeping this in the, you know, we love passing the, we'll pass the data and the information to you and we'll get out and get our activists rolling. But you guys have just done seminal work in keeping the country fixated on this important issue. Thank you.
Political Analyst
Well, thank you sir. And the feeling is very mutual. I'll have you back on soon.
Policy Expert
Great. Thank you.
Political Analyst
Fun fact. The night I believe that the H1B visa debate popped off and when Steve and I did that wonderful, I think two hour long deep dive into it, I became so radicalized on the whole H1B thing. I simultaneously stayed up all night listening to a wonderful book. It was Michelle Malkin's book on the issue at two times speed while simultaneously reading congressional hearings about all the lies that the American people had been told about the H1B program. I became so radicalized on it, probably equal to the ccp. So it's an issue that I'm extremely passionate about if you can't tell, because I hate having my intelligence insulted by people who frankly, you guys are smarter than. And this idea that these policies are so popular yet they have to concoct them in backroom deals and never get them certified through the proper measures or let you take a vote on them is just absolutely insane. It's asinine. Someone though, who is always fighting the good fight, and I'm honored to have him on it's been a very long time, is the one and only. And though I say that a lot, I truly mean this. The one and only Congressman Tim Burchett who joins us now. Now, Congressman, you have been calling out your colleagues for not codifying A bunch of President Trump's eos. I think you guys have sent, what, like, the least amount of legislation to his desk in 70 years. You've been calling them out in meetings and outside of meetings. I wanted to bring you on because I'm curious the kind of reception that you're getting when you're calling these people out to their face for not following through on the coattails that they followed to victory. That is the MAGA movement. And President Trump.
Media Host
Well, the war room folks love it. Congress hates it. And the reason they do is when I write my book, it's going to be called compromise. Because everybody. You wonder why people fight good legislation. It's because they're compromised. They've got a financial interest or someone owns their soul that has a financial interest, and they exercise that right over their soul. And that's what they do. And that's what Washington. That's why Washington's gutless. That's why we're $36 trillion in debt. That's why the Chinese run commissaries and our military installations and gather information of our troop movements that way. That's why the Chinese own farmland, to control a commodity. That's why they own property near our military installations, so they can keep an eye on them from there. That's why a plane was allowed, excuse me, a balloon of 1950s or 60s technology was allowed to float over the country, transverse it, turn around and go back, and then come back again with 1960s technology. They didn't. They probably. They already had. They got people on the ground in every one of these areas. They probably didn't need it. They just wanted to see what our reaction would be. And we failed. And that's what we continue to do. And whether it be drones or anything else flies over our country by our enemies, we just tend to look the other way. And America is getting sick and tired of, of it. And we've got to start reacting. We, we just continuously here in Congress, we thumb our nose. We Republican conference or whatever put out a tweet yesterday. America needs to get off the sidelines. And I just said that is embarrassing. And it was stupid. America is not on the sidelines. America is in the fight. Congress is on the sidelines. We've got to start codifying this stuff and quit saying, well, it's in the big beautiful bill. We got to do this, we got to do it. Oh, but this week is. Is American Pottery Makers Week. You know, we'll have bills on American pottery or something about making that up. But that's that's about what it happens. And then you have. I don't really think that you've got so many of the chairmen that are necessarily corrupt, but I believe you have staff members that make big decisions in these committees. I've had chairman say, and our friend Matt Gates and I talked about it one time how our chairman said, I can't do that. My staff wouldn't let me. You know who elected the dadgum staff? Nobody did. And then I bring this up time and time and time again. Case in point. I have a bill to defund the Taliban. We send them about $40 million a week. $40 million a week. I have a State Department document. It's five pages long. It's not something written on a cocktail napkin. It's legit. And it says that we've given them around 5 billion with a B so far. This is the Taliban. This is the organization that's running Afghanistan right now. Our answer enemies. They throw gay people off of buildings. They treat women like cattle. They rape kids. They're just horrible human beings. And yet we are giving them $40 million a dadgum week. And I can't get the bill out. I've got it now. The State Department's poked their big fat ass in the middle of it. Excuse my language, but I'm kind of ticked off as you can tell. And we're working through all the concerns that all these different groups have. Then the Democrats opposed it in committee. It was voted out on a voice vote because they didn't want to go on the record. But the ranking member said we want to take the NGOs out of it. Now why would they take the NGOs out of it? Non government organizations. I'll tell you why. Because there's right at 1000 NGOs right now working out of Afghanistan on your and my dime. And that money, I think that paper trail, as Elon Musk told me, goes right back to Washington. It's not even, I don't think it's going to campaigns. I think it's going in elected officials pockets, their family members that work over there, their wives and their girlfriends work for these so called NGOs. And it just goes on and on. So we have got to quit electing these wishy washy so called conservatives.
Political Analyst
You know, it's a sad state of affairs when the Taliban has better lobbyists in Washington D.C. than the American people do. Although luckily we do have you. Congressman. Congressman, I wish I could keep you longer, but we're coming up against the end of the show. So I gotta let you go. If people want to follow you, if there's anything they can do, calls that they can make to help you get this bill out of committee or get a substantive vote on it, let us know where we can go to do either both or all the above.
Media Host
We're so proud of you, Natalie. Thank you for everything you're doing. And the First Amendment's a beautiful thing and I'm glad that you're saying it. So thank you, girl.
Political Analyst
Of course. Thank you, sir. We'll have you back on soon. I think we are joined. Or before we go to our next guest real quick, you got to make sure you're checking out birchgold.com Bannon, you think all those fools that Congressman Burchett was just talking about, you think they have your best financial interest at home heart? Definitely not. I don't even think they know how to balance a budget. If they had to, if a gun was to their head, metaphorically, I don't think they could do it. Trevor Comstock, you got about a minute and a half. Hit us with the latest deals you got going on for the War Room Posse.
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WarRoom Battleground EP 769: Stopping The Importing Of H1B's To The US Release Date: May 15, 2025
In Episode 769 of WarRoom Battleground, hosts from WarRoom.org delve deep into the contentious issue of H1B visa imports to the United States. Hosted by Natalie Winters and featuring experts like Kevin Lynn and Colonel Rhett John, the episode explores the impact of H1B visas on American workers, national security, and the broader socio-political landscape.
[00:03] Historian: "I'm a historian of totalitarianism."
The episode opens with a discussion on the rise of authoritarian rhetoric within the United States. Experts draw parallels between current events and historical instances of totalitarianism, emphasizing the constitutional crises emerging under the Trump administration.
[00:31] Political Analyst: "I'm leaving to the University of Toronto because I want to do my work without the fear that I will be punished for my words."
The conversation highlights fears of governmental overreach, including the deportation of individuals without trial and purges within the FBI aimed at silencing dissent.
[01:05] Political Analyst: "It's essential to set up centers of resistance in places of relative safety."
The importance of establishing strong opposition and maintaining democratic institutions is underscored as a countermeasure to prevent the erosion of civil liberties.
[23:36] Policy Expert: "Fiscal year 2026 has been approved. It's 120,000."
Kevin Lynn provides a critical analysis of the H1B visa program, highlighting the surge in visa approvals despite significant layoffs in the tech sector. He argues that the influx of H1B workers is directly linked to the displacement of American professionals.
[24:35] Political Analyst: "Propaganda, Natalie, that's being used to say, oh, wow, we're shedding tech jobs because of AI. Rubbish."
Lynn challenges the notion that automation and AI are the primary culprits behind job losses, attributing layoffs instead to the H1B visa program that brings in foreign workers willing to accept lower wages, thereby undermining American workers.
[25:01] Policy Expert: "We're not even looking at STEM. STEM science, technology, engineering, Math, Optional practical training."
He further critiques the STEM OPT and H4EAD programs, suggesting they are backdoor methods for increasing the workforce at the expense of American jobs, without proper legislative oversight.
[18:10] Political Commentator: "Chinese nationals... are using yuan to buy cash from the Sinaloa cartel."
The discussion shifts to national security concerns, specifically the infiltration of Chinese nationals in the U.S. workforce and their alleged involvement in money laundering activities tied to drug cartels. This is seen as a method for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to bypass international sanctions and gain access to the U.S. dollar.
[16:10] Political Commentator: "They're getting gas and oil illegally. And until we have a way to do something about it, not a whole lot we can do about it."
The experts express concern over the CCP's economic strategies, including their efforts to undermine the U.S. economy by establishing a second world economy and reducing reliance on the U.S. dollar.
[36:41] Policy Expert: "We can only start making changes in 2027 or what is there to do?"
The conversation highlights the legislative hurdles in curbing the H1B visa program. Despite overwhelming evidence of its negative impact, substantial policy changes face delays and require persistent advocacy.
[39:48] Political Analyst: "As in China, how many H1B's they needed to leapfrog us in AI? The answer is zero."
Emphasizing the point that domestic innovation is sufficient, the hosts argue that the reliance on H1B visas is unnecessary and detrimental to American technological leadership.
[31:03] Political Analyst: "Court hears arguments this morning on a major national question..."
The episode also touches upon a pivotal Supreme Court case regarding birthright citizenship, where President Trump's executive order seeks to restrict automatic citizenship for children born in the U.S. The implications of this are discussed, highlighting the potential for widespread legal chaos and the undermining of constitutional protections.
[33:08] Media Personality: "People begin to look at circuit judges as an extension of the political process."
There is concern over the politicization of the judiciary, with judges being perceived as tools for political agendas rather than impartial arbiters of the law.
[42:07] Policy Expert: "Best place to find us is on xstechworkers.com..."
Kevin Lynn urges listeners to take action by contacting policymakers and supporting organizations that advocate for the reduction or elimination of the H1B visa program and related policies.
[44:35] Media Host: "War room folks love it. Congress hates it."
Congressman Tim Burchett discusses the challenges in passing legislation to fund nationalist policies, reflecting the broader struggle between grassroots advocacy and entrenched political interests.
Episode 769 of WarRoom Battleground presents a fervent critique of the H1B visa program, linking it to broader themes of economic displacement, national security threats, and the erosion of American labor and sovereignty. Through expert testimonies and passionate discussions, the episode calls for urgent policy reforms and heightened awareness to protect American workers and uphold democratic values.
Historian [01:25]: "We are like people on the Titanic, saying, our ship can't sink. ... there is no such thing as a ship that can't sink."
Political Analyst [02:35]: "Toni Morrison warned us, the descent into..."
Historian [02:06]: "Talking about American exceptionalism is basically a way to get people to fall into line."
Policy Expert [06:50]: "This is a great article and it really walks through the money laundering that is going on."
Political Analyst [24:35]: "Microsoft just laid off 6,000 works, mostly AI engineers."
Media Host [44:35]: "Congress is on the sidelines. We've got to start codifying this stuff..."
WarRoom Battleground continues to serve as a crucial platform for discussing pressing national issues, offering in-depth analysis and fostering a community committed to preserving American integrity against both internal and external threats.