WarRoom Battleground EP 773: The Dark World Of Organ Harvesting And Human Trafficking

Release Date: May 21, 2025

Introduction

In this compelling episode of WarRoom Battleground, host Stephen K. Bannon delves deep into the harrowing issue of forced organ harvesting and human trafficking orchestrated by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Featuring expert guests including Jan Jekielek, David Matas, Liz Yore, Ben Harnwell, and Frank Gaffney, the discussion unravels the systemic atrocities committed against prisoners of conscience, particularly Falun Gong practitioners, and examines the troubling involvement of the Catholic Church in China.

Forced Organ Harvesting in China

Survivor Testimonies and Evidence

The episode opens with a poignant account of Pei Ming Chun, a survivor of forced organ harvesting.

• Pei Ming Chun recounts his ordeal:
  "This is my surgery scar. It's 35cm long... My left side is in constant pain and it throbs with every beat of my pulse."
  (00:41)

• David Matas, an expert on human rights abuses, discusses the case of Mr. Cheng, a Falun Gong practitioner:
  "The X-rays don't lie. We are now confirming the suspicions we've had for all these years that Mr. Chang was a victim of forced organ harvesting."
  (00:18)
  (02:31)

Robert Destro, former Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, elaborates on the logistical operations behind the organ harvesting:

• "We had to negotiate with the Thai government because he wasn't in Thailand legally. We put him through extensive medical testing and imaging and everything else. They confirmed that organs were taken."
  (01:47)
  (02:33)

Scale and Methodology

Steve Bannon and the guests discuss the sheer scale of organ harvesting:

• Steve Bannon emphasizes the industrial nature:
  "This is an industrial process. It's very much like the industrial process to eradicate the Jews during the Holocaust."
  (07:46)

• David Matas and Steve Bannon highlight the estimated numbers and procedures:
  "It's a $9 billion annual industry... 60 to 90,000 transplants happening each year with no credible organ source."
  (09:24)
  (11:37)

Genocidal Intent and International Response

The discussion touches on whether these actions constitute genocide:

• Steve Bannon:
  "The China Tribunal struggled with whether it's genocide because of the profit motive, but there’s clear intent to eradicate groups of people."
  (08:22)

• Frank Gaffney suggests international measures:
  "How about a White House-led initiative inviting Pope Leo along with President Trump to issue a joint condemnation of forced organ harvesting in China."
  (45:34)

Targeted Groups: Falun Gong and Beyond

Persecution of Falun Gong Practitioners

The Falun Gong, a spiritual practice combining meditation and qigong exercises, has been a primary target for CCP persecution.

• Steve Bannon explains the movement's principles and why it threatens the CCP:
  "Falun Gong fosters incredible agency among its practitioners, which contradicts the Communist Party’s demand for conformity."
  (14:14)

• Ben Harnwell underscores the severity:
  "Forced organ harvesting is a monstrosity against Falun Gong practitioners and Uyghurs alike."
  (38:08)

Expansion to Other Groups

The CCP's organ harvesting practices have expanded beyond Falun Gong practitioners to include Uyghurs and possibly other marginalized groups.

• Steve Bannon:
  "It has shifted to the Uyghurs, with millions in concentration camps and a thriving organ market."
  (42:53)

The Catholic Church's Complicity

Secret Deals with the CCP

A significant portion of the discussion critiques the Catholic Church's secret agreements with the CCP, which seemingly undermine human rights efforts.

• Ben Harnwell questions the Vatican's actions:
  "Cardinal Zen’s multiple trips to China and the Vatican’s failure to condemn organ harvesting are unimaginable."
  (34:27)
  (38:08)

• Steve Bannon expresses disbelief:
  "The Vatican deal is a total head scratcher because the situation for Catholics in China has only worsened."
  (32:48)

Calls for Accountability

The guests advocate for the Vatican to take a definitive stance against the CCP's abuses.

• Frank Gaffney suggests a joint condemnation:
  "Invite Pope Leo along with President Trump to issue a joint condemnation of forced organ harvesting in China."
  (45:34)

• Liz Yore demands transparency:
  "Pope Leo should cancel the awful agreement with the CCP immediately and address the ongoing human rights violations."
  (38:08)

Legislative Actions and International Response

U.S. Congressional Measures

Recent actions in the U.S. Congress aim to address and sanction the CCP’s organ harvesting practices.

• Steve Bannon highlights new legislation:
  "Two bills have passed: the Falun Gong Protection Act and the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act, both targeting organ harvesting."
  (47:08)

• Jan Jekielek emphasizes the significance:
  "These acts sanction individuals involved and include reporting elements essential for protection."
  (No specific timestamp)

State-Level Initiatives

Several U.S. states have begun to take action against organ harvesting practices.

• Steve Bannon:
  "Five states, including Arizona, have laws preventing payment for Chinese organ transplants."
  (47:08)

International Tribunal and Evidence

China Tribunal Findings

The China Tribunal, an independent body, has compiled extensive evidence affirming the CCP’s involvement in forced organ harvesting.

• Steve Bannon cites the Tribunal’s credibility:
  "Chinatribunal.com is the most comprehensive dump of evidence on this issue."
  (48:23)

• Ben Harnwell urges action based on the report:
  "Everyone in the war room's got to read it and hold the Vatican accountable."
  (49:06)

Conclusion and Call to Action

The episode concludes with a fervent call to listeners to stay informed and take action against the CCP’s human rights abuses.

• Steve Bannon urges vigilance:
  "You can't turn your eyes away from it. It's absolutely brutal."
  (47:33)

• Ben Harnwell encourages engagement:
  "Visit yourchildren.com to access the China Tribunal report and demand answers from the Vatican."
  (49:06)

Listeners are directed to various resources including Chinatribunal.com and epochtimes.com for more information and ways to contribute to the fight against forced organ harvesting and human trafficking.

Notable Quotes

• Pei Ming Chun:
  "I can never return to the person I once was. My left side is in constant pain..."
  (00:41)

• Robert Destro:
  "They confirmed that the surgery happened... they confirmed what's missing."
  (02:33)

• Steve Bannon:
  "This is the most ghastly thing out there."
  (22:28)

• Frank Gaffney:
  "Pope Leo should immediately repeal the awful agreement with the CCP."
  (40:12)

Further Information and Resources

• China Tribunal: chinatribunal.com
• War Room’s Channel: epochtimes.com/warroom
• Ben Harnwell’s Website: yourchildren.com

This episode serves as a crucial exposé on the dark practices of the CCP, urging global awareness and proactive measures to combat these severe human rights violations.