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WarRoom Battleground EP 774: Catholics Reject The Digital Deity
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Taj Gill
Pray for our enemies because we're going.
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Steve Bannon
Medieval on these people.
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Taj Gill
Christians not got a free shot.
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Steve Bannon
All these networks lying about the people.
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Taj Gill
The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
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Steve Bannon
I know you try to do everything.
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Taj Gill
In the world to stop that, but.
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Steve Bannon
You'Re not going to stop it.
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Taj Gill
It's going to happen.
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Joe Allen
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Taj Gill
I w that any of these people had a conscience.
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Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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Taj Gill
If that answer is to save my.
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Steve Bannon
Country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Taj Gill
Okay, welcome. It's Thursday the 21st of May, year of our Lord 2025. Thank you for sticking around for the 6pm hour. I think you see today the bouncing around in the capital markets more than ever. What is fiat currency? Is that the dollar empire maybe? Right. What's backing it? Who knows? The greatest export we have. Find out all about this. Go to birchgold.com end of the dollar empire. The seventh free installment is called the Road or the Rio Reset on the road to Rio. They're talking now about the Senate is going to pass the big beautiful bill by July 4th. That means it'll go to conference and sometime in August before we hit the debt ceiling. Remember, they're asking for a $4 trillion lift in this, that they'll have a joint bill and be able to pass this so we can kind of get on with it. The greatest export we have is the dollar. It's under question the July 6th.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
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Taj Gill
As the Senate supposedly theoretically passes. They're going to be in Rio talking about how they get off the US dollar. Find all about it birchgold.com Bannon the Rio reset on the road to Rio. Do it today. Slash Bannon. Taj Gill joins me. Taj, you are a very successful patriot warrior for your country for many decades. And now you've shifted into be, I think, the finest coffee roaster not just in the United States, but the world. You roast the champagne of coffee. Tell me about it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, D. We do roast the champagne of coffee. It's warpath coffee. We roast it on a perforated drum. That way we don't burn it. And if you look at our website, we have, I think we have just about 10,000 five star reviews. We might have hit 10,000 this week, but it's only 13% of our customers leave reviews and they're almost all five stars, people love this coffee. So by not burning the coffee when we roast, not burning the beans when we roast it, you can drink it straight black. You don't need milk, you don't need sugar. You don't need to add any of that crap into your coffee. You can drink it healthy. You drink. The website is Warpath coffee and use promo code war room. And you can get the best coffee for 20% off. It's Warpath coffee promo code war room. And you'll get the best coffee for 20% off. And that's for the war room posse. And we run that discount code year round. For the war room posse. We have a dark rose, the Mariners blend. That's. That's your favorite, Steve. We made that actually for you. And then we have the breakfast blend. My wife and I created that one. And then we have the summer blend in the summer blend is. Has a little bit of Jamaica blue mountain beans in the base of it. And it's a blend of some other coffees. And that one's really smooth. And then, of course, we have the flavored coffees. We have dark chocolate. And because of such high demand, we're running our holiday and Christmas coffee year round because we usually run it for a couple of months after Christmas, but people are emailing and calling all the time like, hey, we want the holiday coffee. So it's now a staple. We run it year round. We got vanilla hazelnut. We got the espresso. It's an Italian frogman espresso. And that one is amazing. I. I did that one. It's. It's a light roast espresso. So it doesn't have the bitterness that espresso espresso usually has. And I drink it straight black espresso. It's really good. And then, of course, we have the K cups. We have the breakfast blend of Mariners blowing K cups and the. The Mariners blend. K cup is our top seller. We're restocking those tomorrow. We just made about, I think, 5,042 count boxes of those because they sell so fast. So this weekend, everything will be in stock. But right now, everything but the Mariners blanket cups are in stock. And we have mugs. We have everything. It's incredible.
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Taj Gill
They're blown out. Where do people go? It's the champagne of coffee. You drink this, it's clean. You talk about clean. Your diet's clean, your food's clean. This is clean. You don't need cream, you don't need milk, you don't need sugar. You don't need anything to cut the acidity, acidity, acidity of coffee because it ain't burnt. Like certain companies that, you know have green logos. Where do they go? You got a, you got a Memorial Day sale? Yeah, because I know you're a big believer in the commemoration, Memorial Day, like we hear at the war Room. Where do people go? What's the sale?
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Stephen K. Bannon
The sale is 20% off. The promo code is war or war room. Promo code, war room. The website is Warpath Coffee. And then your discount code is going to be war room. And that's for the war room posse. And it's 20% off. It is the best coffee. And like you said, Steve, it's clean. I'll tell you real quick story we had, I've had a guy call in and he said that he's allergic to pretty much all coffees out there. So he has to buy the organic coffees and our non organic coffee he can drink without getting an allergic reaction. So that, I mean, that just shows how good our coffee is. That's a true story. It was a guy, he was a chiropractor. He called in and I answered the phone and I was talking to him.
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Taj Gill
Amazing stuff you've done. You've done good, sir. You're doing well by doing good. Thank you, brother. One more time, where do people go? Because it's 20 off. I want everybody get and have some great coffee over the weekend.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Warpath coffee is the website and use promo code. War room. Warpath coffee promo code, War room. And that is, that's how you do it. That's how you get the best coffee. And just, just read the reviews. Go to the website and read the reviews. You're gonna love it. Warpath Coffee promo code, War Room.
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Taj Gill
That's your, the 10,000 five star reviews. Your fellow compadres and make sure you leave a review even if it's not five. Okay, thank you. We'll let you go back, sir. Love you, brother.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you.
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Taj Gill
Thank you, sir. Okay, yesterday we had a major league guest into the, into the war Room. Max Tegmark, the Future of Life Institute. He is a guy who's a mathematician, very involved in artificial intelligence, one of the big brains in that. And he's saying, yo, we got to really think this thing through before, before the horse gets out of the barn or we could have real problems. Joe Allen joins me. You guys went to Catholic University. Yesterday after our, after our discussion here in the war room, we've got a clip. Let's play that and then we'll get into the discussion. I've also got Liz your and Ben Harnwell from Rome because Cardinal Prevost took the Name Leo the 14th for a specific reason that he laid out after he took it. We'll discuss that with be in Liz about artificial intelligence. Let's play Catholic University. The panel yesterday that I do, I'm in radical agreement with my co panelists as to their assessment as to where we are and our excitement and our apprehension when it comes to the emergence of AI in our lives.
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Joe Allen
When he says science is blind, what he means by that is science doesn't tell you. I'm the first to admit there's not a single equation we've ever discovered that tells you what's good and what's evil. Science can never answer these questions. And if scientists pretend that they can somehow derive from principles of science what is morally good and what is bad, they're just BSing you. They sometimes couch their language and religious terms. The essay from Dario Amada you quoted is even titled Machines of Loving Grace. I view it as kind of obnoxious to just try to appropriate religious language for his personal money making, you know, agenda. The truth is we have to have a moral compass, we have to have moral leadership and it's not going to come from any calculations from scientists.
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Liz Yore
It's almost more of a stakeholder discussion than it is the principles. Yeah, I think the, I mean there's some, there's definitely some non obvious thinking that should go into the equation. But when, when it comes to.
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Taj Gill
You.
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Liz Yore
Know, like issues of religious freedom and pluralism ought to be a central pillar in the decision making process. We have to think about things like what do parental controls mean in different countries around the world, you know, that are, that have, you know, are we going to fragment society by the, you know, some of these like lessons we didn't learn from the, from the beginning of social media. I think it's also important, you know, that all of us recognize that when we've had disruptive technologies like this in.
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Ben Harnwell
The past.
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Liz Yore
It'S worth a pause for a second. They were almost always followed by vast global conflict.
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Steve Bannon
Wow.
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Taj Gill
What did he, what does he mean? Walk me through that.
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Johnny Moore
So that was Johnny Moore at Liberty University, also works with the White House.
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Taj Gill
The evangelical leader, right?
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Johnny Moore
Yes.
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Taj Gill
Why is he so important and what is, what is an evangelical sticking his, his pie hole into this conversation?
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Johnny Moore
Well, you know, the entire panel was non Catholic other than the moderator. The moderator was Will Jones at the Future of Life Institute, a confirmed, recently confirmed Catholic. So. Congratulations, Will. The other Three, though, you had Johnny Moore, evangelical leader, you had Max Tegmark, who is a physicist and very much has his head wrapped around the material world. But in my discussions with him, he's very open to the mystery history of the universe. He doesn't think scientists have it all figured out. And then you had, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, Sahel Khan of Microsoft, a conservative Muslim. And in the discussion, I mean, the real core of the discussion was simply as we are rocketing forward with the development of artificial intelligence and especially the deployment of artificial intelligence, which has been completely reckless so far. How do religious communities respond to this? You know, I think Will Jones has said this many times, and I've said it many times. You've said it many times. There's a sense that religious communities are going to be best equipped to deal with the ramifications of having machines that at the very least appear to think and perhaps if it keeps moving forward in the direction that Silicon Valley wants it to go, that they actually do think and think better than human beings. So what you heard Max Tegmark there saying is that science can't solve this problem. Even if someone is an atheist, they have to have some kind of recourse to a foundational reality to say this is good or this is evil. Religion provides that. Religion tells you these things are good. To serve your fellow man and to worship God is good. And to try to replace God with a machine implicitly would be evil.
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Taj Gill
Okay, and we're doing this and Johnny Moore and people, because we need to wake up the population that this is a thing and we have to combat it, because the demonic people that are driving this are agnostic at best and probably atheistic. They, they see themselves as gods. That's what we're doing. So all of that nice talk you had is totally irrelevant. In fact, they look at that as a weakness.
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Johnny Moore
Yeah, you know, it's interesting when you look at the, especially the real ideologues behind transhumanism post humanism. You know, it begins with playing God, tinkering with the genome, trying to create life yourself. It then kind of moves into this dream of becoming gods to perfect one's genome or to merge the mind with a superior artificial intelligence to become kind of a digital master race. And, but at the very end of that, right, at the most extreme end of that spectrum, you have this desire to build God to make an artificial intelligence system that moves from artificial general intelligence, human level cognition, into artificial superintelligence. And that is by its Very nature, a godlike entity. You know, the Trump administration has been great on so many different fronts. But I got to say, you know, the second day of the administration bringing out Sam Altman, bringing out Larry Ellison, bringing out Maha Yoshi Yoshisan on the start.
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Taj Gill
On the start, start. What's it called?
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Johnny Moore
Stargate Project. All three of those men believe that artificial superintelligence isn't just the goal of their project, but is the inevitable outcome of either their project or some similar project, say maybe Elon Musk's Colossus data center in Memphis, that if you keep scaling up the data centers, the server capacity, then you will eventually produce something like a digital God. So at Catholic University, and, you know, I got to say, Steve, in my discussions with people in private, in the Q and A that happened during the event, and there was another, smaller one after. A lot of very informed people, a lot of them Catholic, some of them more mystical, some Orthodox Jewish, but a lot of very informed people who are very, very concerned about this. And there's two levels of concern. One is more mundane. What will the systems that we have right now do? But then, of course, there's the more cosmic concern. What happens if they actually do succeed in creating a machine that is smarter than human beings and just de facto out of human control?
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Taj Gill
Before I go to Ben and Liz and get their input, you use the term reckless deployment. What do you mean?
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Johnny Moore
That's my main concern. I think that it shouldn't be dismissed, this idea of creating an artificial general intelligence or superintelligence. But that is still just science fiction. That's just a dream that these guys are pursuing.
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Taj Gill
You think that's science fiction?
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Johnny Moore
Fiction in the sense that it is not real yet good fiction predicts the future.
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Taj Gill
No, no, no. But science fiction means it's some sort of fantasy. I don't mean this is a goal. This is a demonstrable scientific goal they have. That's not fiction. And you can, if you extrapolate out from what we have today, it will actually be a fact, scientific fact, will it not?
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Johnny Moore
It could be. There's no way to know. I mean, it's like so many things in futurism. You don't know until it happens, but you know where they want it to go, and that's the important thing. But what we do have right now on the ground are systems that are used as tools, but they're very unreliable tools. They hallucinate, they misguide people, they're used as teachers. So that whether it be children or adults, people are Turning to them as authorities on what is and isn't real. And I think most disturbingly, people are turning to these things for companionship. They're good enough that they can hold conversations with people and, and basically develop an emotional bond between humans and machines. And this is happening by the millions. Meta AI. You've got ChatGPT people I know people who believe that it is a conscious entity and is their friend. And these are not stupid people. Maybe there's an emotional need that needs to be met that they can't meet with human beings, but this is happening right now and it's only growing. So this reckless deployment is. These companies obviously do not care about the well being of the people that are using their products. These companies care about number one, probably profit and number two, the prestige of creating something that is so earth shaking. And at the end of that they believe it will be a creature like us, that it will be deserving of rights. At least many of them, not all of them. And there is that kind of radical fringe that believes that what they're creating is a digital God.
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Taj Gill
What? Ben Harmwell, let me start with you. You're. You're in Rome. The Church itself, they've had some conferences, but have been a little behind the curve, I think, in getting out in front of this. This is why Catholic University was so shocking to me yesterday, had this amazing conference with all these leaders, although Cardinal Prevost took the name Leo the 14th specifically because of artificial intelligence in this new post industrial revolution. Sir.
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Max Tegmark
Good evening, Steve. Good evening, Joe. Look, this is a. Let me start off with my response, Steve, to the words that you just said about the Catholic Church perhaps being a little behind the curve on the whole of the AI phenomenon. And that's a fair enough accusation. You can't really expect clerics, priests, bishops or cardinals, many of them in their 70s and 80s, to, to be au fait and to understand profoundly a technology that even the people at its cutting edge haven't fully grasped yet. But I think if we're looking to the Catholic Church to navigate this, perhaps we're already starting off on the wrong foot. What the Catholic Church as an institution, also as the mystical body of Jesus Christ can do is present those perennial values and truths about human nature, about pride, about humility. And there's a huge dynamic between those two things. Anyone listening to what Jarlan was just saying, where anyone with any basis of Christian formation will understand straight away the dynamics here between humility and pride in the whole of this project. That is something that the Church can do, should do, and is doing in its own way. One thing I would say about the new Pope, Leo xiv, taking that name, I'll come on to this onto Rom Novarum, perhaps in a moment after the break or something. But as an Augustinian, he has, one would hope, in his formation, since he, I think he joined at about the age 14, the whole history and thought of St. Augustine at his shoulders that he can draw upon. And I think St. Augustine would be a great navigator for the. For the present age. Not least coming back to this point about the essential virtue of humility in man's relationship with God, that's the big danger. It's not so much, I think, that the idea of this super intelligence that terrifies people, rightly, it's the idea that developing consciousness or awareness, there might become a will behind that intelligence that can't be controlled because it is massively too far ahead of us. And this whole idea, as Joe was saying about this idea of being a digital God, perhaps the Catholic Church, in reminding people to show some humility with our technology, with what we're inventing, can do a gentle recall and say, look, digital gods, it is in the realm of great realm of spiritual danger here for mankind, and gently call people back to Yahweh, to Eloha, the original God, the God, I think, that we're all rather fond of because it is God himself who has redeemed us and given us the. The ability to use our discernment. Look, I'll close with this word, Stephen, and then I'll perhaps respond to Joe's points further on in the show. I was saying in a conversation with a friend of mine the other day that half of my moral philosophies is formed by Holy Scripture and the other half by Stan Lee. It's always a good opportunity to say, with great power comes great responsibility. I think that's a truth that everyone can appeal to and that I think should be part of our calculation. We are well into designing something that is a greater power than our ability to manage.
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Taj Gill
Joe, you had a response?
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Johnny Moore
Yeah, I think Ben's point about St. Augustine is really, really important here. Two things that Augustine taught that really had an impact on me. One, that evil is the corruption or perversion of good. So whatever evils you see in the world are reflective of good, but are a corruption or an inversion of that good. And with AI, you have exactly that. You have, say, human beings as the image of God or the icon as image of God. And what this is, is an extension of that. Into the material world in which you've created this imitation of the image of God. You know, they say Satan is the ape of God, the imitator of God, AI is the ape of the image of God. And another thing that Augustine said, there's a wonderful book, if the audience is so inclined, by the late David Noble, called the Religion of Technology. And he describes in great length Augustine's view on technology. Of course, in that time they didn't think of technology. In fact, technology wasn't a word used commonly among the people until after World War II. But he thought of it in terms of arts, he thought of it in terms of craft. And he described everything from the kind of artisan work or any of the levers and tools that were being used in his day. In the second century, if I'm not mistaken, third century. I'm so sorry. Fourth century. Anyway, my dating is terrible, but these primitive arts and crafts, for him, he saw them not as a sin in and of themselves. He saw technology, we'll say, as God's gift to man to alleviate the suffering of a fallen existence. And that this was its proper place. That anything above and beyond that which would have been, you know, for him, the extravagances of Rome, the extravagances of the theater in the Coliseum, that anything above and beyond that, that comes to replace what is true and holy in a Christian's life, which would be God and Jesus, then that then becomes a sin. But that point is just simply. And this is what they were saying at Catholic University. I'm more extremist myself, but they were basically saying that we can capture the positive effects of algorithms, advanced algorithms for health, for defense, for the economy, but it's when it crosses over into the realm of the machine being a being in and of itself, or as Max Tegmark draws the line, when it goes from being a tool to something that is out of one's control.
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Taj Gill
Liz, you got a couple of minutes on this before we go to break?
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Cardinal Prevost
Sure. In a Rerum Navarrem in 1891, which was Pope Leo XIII's massive encyclical about the justice and dignity of the human person and really prioritizing the rights of human beings, both in work and at home, and demanding that the Catholic Church work towards justice and dignity for everyone. Look, my concern is, and Joe is right, where have we seen the digital God manifest in this world? We have seen it in China, and that is who is going to be driving the AI agenda. My biggest concern, though, is the last 12 years at the Vatican The Vatican for generations has brought in the great intellectuals of the world to educate the Pope and the Church on breaking technology on the big issues of the time. In the last 12 years, Francis has had the radical techno giants, Zuckerberg, Gates. Those are the ones he has relied on. He's brought in the climate change adherents. We have to do a massive change where Leo XIV must address this issue immediately. The Catholic Church teaches that man is both faith and reason and a child of God. We have our divine nature. And by imposing an artificial intelligence, that divine nature becomes exhausted, disappears. And so this has to be the number one issue because the Catholic Church has to seize the momentum and really establish itself as the final word in where artificial intelligence goes. Because if we lose our humanity, which is of course the great civilization issue here, then we have lost our life and our ability to function as rational human beings who can distinguish between good.
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Taj Gill
And evil and, and our soul with it. Hang on for a second. Short commercial break. Jones, gonna stick around for a few more minutes. I've got Liz and Ben and we're gonna get down on it next in the war room.
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Johnny Moore
You know, last time we saw each other in the flesh that was December last year. And at that time you were hammered.
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Taj Gill
At our Christmas party.
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Johnny Moore
I was enjoying myself. But you know, I really was kind of on the fence about how much longer I would be covering this. You know, we've been at this for four years non stop over four years now. And it just didn't seem like to me that people were really getting was kind of demoralizing.
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Taj Gill
Of course I disagreed and that's what I talked to him about it. But that's, I hate to say it, I'm always right and he's Joe Allen, continue on.
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Johnny Moore
You know, we'll have to debate that later. But you know, what's happened since Trump has come into office and since Trump has been putting all of these tech titans, from Elon Musk to Sam Altman at the forefront of his goals for America in this golden age is that you have now this response in the human that there's something profoundly off, that for all the good that can be done by closing the border, by ending foreign wars, that it really won't amount to much if we end up elevating these priests of the cyborg theocracy and allow their machines to determine the course of our human lives. And so it's been amazing to see in the last few months that, you know, it's as if there were always those fellow travelers that I recognized. But suddenly you just see people waking up in a major way that artificial intelligence may not be everything you read about in a science fiction Book. But it is a very powerful force. It will continue to be so increasingly and something must be done about it in the Catholic Church with Pope Leo 14th. I think that that that parallel between Leo 13th and the industrial Revolution and what we're going into now, what our boy Klaus Schwab called the fourth Industrial Revolution, that this is in fact the singular challenge for humanity because if all the other human goals are attained, the humanity of our, of ourselves, our souls will be corrupted if these people prevail.
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Taj Gill
Very profound. And I'm impressed that a cracker like you knows so much about St. Augustine. Very impressive. I read, you know, you know, do not read Joe Allen. We'll see you tomorrow. I know you got to bounce. You're going to be my co host tomorrow from 5 to 7pm We've got something from this. By the way, my phone blew up all day. Yesterday was amazing. One hour on live human orgasm organ harvesting. Let's go and play a clip. And I'm going to bring in. Ben is in Rome and Liz your is in Chicago. We're going to bring them both in. You said something very powerful that's not repeated enough. You said when you're not Catholic. But you said one of the issues with the secret deal with the Catholic Church, it gives credibility to the regime, to the brutality and it makes it harder for not just Falun Gong, but for everybody else when you have such a powerful spiritual institution as the Catholic Church essentially in business with them and allowing them to kind of run and oversee the religion in mainland China. Can you expound on that?
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Ben Harnwell
Absolutely. I mean the Vatican deal is a total head scratcher for me. Basically it was penned in 2018, it's been renewed a number of times and it makes no sense because the fate of Catholics in communist China has only gotten worse the whole time. You would think if the deal has the opposite effect, you would get rid of it. Let's assume best faith. They're thinking, hey, we want to make, make life better for the Catholic faithful. They have not done that. But what they have done to your point earlier is it basically says look to the world. Look, the Vatican feels like you can kind of deal with this regime reasonably and we can kind of negotiate around who the bishops will be. We don't actually know exactly the details of the deal. But I remember just before you were talking about Hong Kong earlier, just before the National Security Law came into effect, I had the honor of interviewing one of the Catholics. I received respect most out there. Cardinal Zen. Right. And of course he was out there he says, absolutely. And he was out there explaining, why, does it not, you know, why is this a crazy idea? And he was trying. And the previous Pope wouldn't see him. And it was very sad. And. But ultimately, that webinar, I had no idea how bad it had been for Catholics until I was on that webinar. I was like, this is really beyond the pale. But ultimately, this is the. This is the issue, whoever you are. Right. Basically, it puts in Chinese, they call it putting powder on the face of the regime. Okay. Like, if you know that someone is doing live organ harvesting, a crime yet to be seen on this planet, and it's part of the normal operations of a regime. Right. How can you expect good faith in negotiation?
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Taj Gill
The great Yan. What?
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Cardinal Prevost
Yeah.
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Taj Gill
Kellogg from Epoch Times. Amazing interview yesterday. He's one of the top experts on live organ harvesting. Before I get into this, Ben Harnwell, I know you're itching to give a response to Joe Allen. What do you got?
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Max Tegmark
Joe said something very important just before he had to jump. And I wasn't planning particular in talking in great depth about St. Augustine today. However, just to remind folks that the new Pope, Leo xiv, is from. He's an Augustinian friar, formed in the thinking of St. Augustine, a great. To my mind, the greatest theologian, philosopher in the church's history. St. Augustine came up with a really intelligent concept of what evil is, because some people thought it's a proactive, positive force in the world. And then St. Augustine said, well, you know, it's difficult to think like that, seeing as everything that is in the material universe was created by God, who is good. So he came up with this idea, this concept of evil as the absence of good, the absence of God, by the way, but the absence of good. I think the Latin term was privatio boni for that concept. And if you're thinking now about what we're engaged in doing, and this is why, you know, to bring this back to the idea that the. The Catholic Church might have something interesting to say on this, the new Pope might have something to say on this. Formed as he is in the thinking of St. Augustine. If you look at this project of. Of artificial intelligence, artificial superintelligence has the total absence of God there. And with St. Augustine's intuition, he would no doubt define this. This project as evil. And I just want to throw that out there, Steve, because I think that's something, as I say, that just occurred to me on the back of what Joe was saying.
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Taj Gill
It's back to Mark. It's back to Mark was it 13 where he sends the disciples and apostles out early on to kind of teach. And they come back to heal. And they come back and they said, hey, we healed and spread the word and we did all these things. And he said that's terrific. He says, however, people said that, you know, your inspiration is from Beelzebub, from the devil. And they were spreading this. And what Christ tells the apostles is that, hey, they can say anything about me, right? Don't fret, just go about your work. The only unforgivable sin, the only mortal sin, is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit AGI by definition. And when Jesus Christ, who's the son of God and, and can forgive anything, tells you there's something unforgivable, that there's something that even he can't wipe away, and that's to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. You ought to take your number two principle and write that down. That's what artificial general intelligence. That's an artificial intelligence. Look at the guys are running this. They're absolutely running it from power, ultimate power. That's what's so scary about it. This thing is off the track and heading down a track that's quite dangerous. And knowing that the Pope who's taken Leo XIV because of artificial intelligence has. Because right now the argument is, oh, we have to do this because the Chinese Communist Party is ahead of us and we can't let them get ahead of us. And to know where the kind of the railhead of kind of spirituality and thinking about this and the reverse of the absence of good but actually infusing goodness into the system is in business with the Chinese Communist Party now at this moment in time, this historic moment is exactly where you don't want to question it. Liz, your. Am I too far off track there?
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Cardinal Prevost
No, that's why you have to decouple immediately from the CCP and this outrageous deal. You know, Human Rights Watch said yesterday that they are demanding that the Pope take an urgent review and to speak out against a persecution and oppression of people of faith. So there is momentum. And Steve, you know, I. I'd like to think that this native son of Chicago, you know, Carl Sandberg, said Chicago, the city with broad shoulders, well, Leo's going to need broad shoulders to take on this issue of artificial intelligence. And what I would like to suggest is this Catholic university seminar program conference should be brought same people to the Vatican. This should be the basis for an encyclical written. His first encyclical should be about artificial Intelligence. That is why it is a pressing issue. And the Catholic Church needs to speak viva voce on this issue and to raise the importance of the human dignity of a person, that the soul must be the generation of society. And so, I mean, that's what I'd like to see. The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which I think our good friend Ben has been involved in, they should sponsor the exact same conference. The Pope should attend it. And from that should come a teaching document for the world, not just for the Catholic Church, so that the Catholic Church can speak clearly and intelligently. You know, the Catholic Church has been at the forefront, contrary to a lot of, you know, public opinion, in the forefront of science from the beginning of time. The first astronomer was a Catholic Jesuit priest. I mean, so the Catholic Church, this is unnatural, but they've been falling behind. And so by taking Leo's name, he needs to not only decouple from the Chinese government, which is, you know, the digital God that we're going to be battling in AI, but speak with the voice of the apostles and Jesus Christ and really step in the breach, because that's what we have right now. It's only been the tech, the tech giants that have been speaking about AI. It is time for the moral voice of the Church to be heard. And this is the next six months. He's got a decouple and repeal this deal and then begin to address AI immediately. And I love, I love what was coming out of this Catholic University conference.
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Taj Gill
No, but here's the thing. You can't speak authoritatively on the moral implications and the spiritual implications in the world of artificial intelligence and the reckless deployment. As Joe Allen says, if you're in partnership with the Chinese Communist Party because they're the most reckless of all on this matter, that is quite frankly going to dwarf everything we do about the balanced budget and everything we do about any of the kinetic part of the Third World War. You're about to have wars of incomprehensible brutality if we continue to go down this path. Am I incorrect in that, that you can't speak on one hand as a spiritual authority while you're in business with the criminal regime that's in back of many of the worst abuses in the drive towards artificial general intelligence? Sir.
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Max Tegmark
Well, Steve, look, before we kneel down before this new Pope and give him moral and spiritual authority on these worldly political things, we need to know where he's coming from. You know, this, I think, was one of the first Catholic commentators to point out that, that this Pope as cardinal had been to China 12 times. And so there's a legitimate question here is is this someone on the political prudential issues of the day we can look towards for guidance and leadership? And all I can do, Steve, is come back to this idea that came out of our discussion yesterday. Let's find out where he is with regards to the ccp. Let President Trump, who hasn't condemned the forced organ harvesting of China yet, let him come out with a declaration, let him draft it and let him publicly, publicly ask Pope Leo to co sign it with him. And if he doesn't, then we as Catholics and the evangelicals of goodwill who look to the Catholic Church for moral leadership on this issue, then we will know where he stands and we will be able to draw our own conclusions.
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Taj Gill
Liz, just a matter of reference. You said it yesterday and I meant to bring it up. Is it over the last 12 years he's been to China, particularly after taking over the Augustinians, and is it documented somewhere he's actually been to China a dozen times? 12 times?
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Cardinal Prevost
No, he's been there several times is what the quote was. Steve and I checked. There are no Augustinian missions in China whatsoever. It doesn't appear that there's any priests there. And you know, I was laughing because I was thinking about what Trump did yesterday with the South African president Ram Poso, who said, oh no, no, nothing's here. There is no genocide. And then he flipped on, turn off the lights, acted like the director he is and showed him what the reality is. I might suggest that if the Pope doesn't recognize that this China deal is an absolute disaster and causing untold persecution, in fact, many have said that the intensity of the persecution is as bad, if not worse than the Cultural Revolution. So wow, wow. So I think, and that came from the bipartisan congressional Executive Commission on China. So I think it really needs the pressure is turning up. The cardinals actually were saying in the first meeting with the new pope that the China deal kept coming up among the cardinals. So I think the war room needs to keep the heat on. They need to write to their bishops and their cardinals that they want this deal repealed. I would also mention to Everybody this Saturday, May 24, is the world Day prayer for China and that, you know, our prayer is that this deal get repealed and that the persecution is exposed and that voices now join together to outlaw this incredible religious freedom that has been denied all the Chinese, not only just the Catholics. So let's see what Prevost, the dark horse Prevost, as I call him is really about and whether he will step up and begin to take on China. And that's going to be a big lift but it should be the first lift and that will free him to speak freely about the issues that need to be addressed in the world. Specifically artificial intelligence.
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Taj Gill
Liz, where do people go over this holiday weekend to get up with all your writings and social media and all of it?
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Cardinal Prevost
Sure. I'm everywhere under Elizabeth, you're all social media. My website is your children dot com. I'll be posting all sorts of information including the prayer for this Saturday to pray for all peoples of faith in China. Thank you Steve.
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Taj Gill
Amen sister. Fantastic. The great leisure Ben Harnwell where do people go to get all your amazing content you put up?
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Max Tegmark
Thanks Steve. Get as my social media platform of choice just tap in my surname there. I am Arnwell. Thanks Steve. Thanks very much indeed.
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Steve Bannon
God bless Ben Hunter.
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Taj Gill
Fantastic. Great session. This is a huge priority. You must tear first off we have to actually see it. It's unacceptable. It's been it's been secret. It's I think a humiliation to every person in the church and a slap in the face to Lao Baijang. And you heard the Falun Gong situation yesterday with the live organ harvesting. Think of how barbaric how could you do a deal with someone that does something that barbaric on an industrial scale government sanctioned and what Jan said yesterday it's it's a detriment to the underground evangelical house churches into the Falun Gong and to the Buddhists and everybody else that try to practice their religion in which is a dictatorship of a bunch of murderous atheistic thugs. Right? Absolute disgrace. We're going to spend more time next week because the house in wraps up their business Tuesday in Texas 972 Patriots support the folks that have kept Texas free. That's Patriot Mobile Glenn story and the Team 972 Patriot to do this switch you'll talk to a customer service operator that is an American citizen and addressing you in English that's what you need. It's no longer a debate about their service and or their commitment to liberty and to freedom. Glenn Stern and the team of the best patriotmobile.com bandit get a free month in your transition and installation again. Remember it's simple. Simple, simple, simple simple. You just get your phone they've already got the three major providers carriers they they lay on top of. That's a law that carves that out. That's why they're so powerful. Plus they get every other upsell if you want to go talk to the customer service team. Incredible, incredible service. Patriot Mobile the great folks in the state of Texas. Go check it out today. 972 Patriot Calm right now. We'll be back tomorrow morning on weekend. We're on watch on Saturday on Monday all of it live with all the commemorations for our honored dead from West Point to Arlington National Cemetery. Be a part of it only in the war room. We'll see you tomorrow morning. 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time.
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