WarRoom Battleground EP 776: Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro

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Episode: WarRoom Battleground EP 776: Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro
Release Date: May 28, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org
Title: Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro

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Introduction to Political Turmoil in Brazil

The episode opens with Steve Bannon and his son Stephen K. Bannon setting a confrontational tone, highlighting the struggles of their political stance against what they describe as a "dying regime." At 00:17, Bannon declares, "Pray for our enemies because we're going," emphasizing the intense political conflict unfolding in Brazil.

California’s Gubernatorial Race and Populism

Steve Hilton, a guest on the show, discusses his candidacy for Governor of California. At 01:03, Bannon introduces Hilton, questioning his decision to run in a predominantly Republican state like Texas. Hilton responds passionately, arguing that California is "the worst-run state in America" and sees his campaign as a "populist revolution" aimed at mobilizing the working-class Latinos who feel oppressed by "far-left policies" on climate, taxes, and social issues.

Hilton outlines his strategy for the 2026 gubernatorial election, emphasizing the potential to secure nearly six million votes, citing President Trump’s recent electoral success in Texas as a benchmark. He states at 02:42, "The people who've been hammered the most by these insane far-left policies... is the opportunity to lead that populist revolution."

Addressing Allegations of White Supremacy Adjacent to the MAGA Movement

Steve Bannon brings up recent allegations made by Jake Comey on MSNBC, where Comer and Jen Psaki claimed that the MAGA movement is "white supremacists adjacent." At 03:09, Bannon presses Hilton for a response. Hilton counters by asserting strong support for President Trump among East Los Angeles' Latino population, dismissing the establishment’s claims as "total BS." He emphasizes that the "Trump revolution is mobilizing the working class against the Democratic Party, against the elites and against the establishment."

Success Stories and Overcoming Establishment Opposition

Hilton shares a success story from Huntington Beach in Orange County, where a slate of populist candidates led by him shifted the city council from a 6-1 Democrat majority to a 7-0 Republican control within four years. At 04:24, he attributes this change to embracing populist principles: "It's all about populism... common sense, practical policies that make life easier for the working class in California."

He further discusses his campaign against incumbent Governor Gavin Newsom, criticizing Newsom for boasting about California's economy while simultaneously grappling with high poverty and unemployment rates. Hilton pledges aggressive strategies to dismantle what he views as a 15-year one-party rule in California.

Eduardo Bolsonaro’s Legal Struggles and US Support

The conversation shifts to Eduardo Bolsonaro, son of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who joins the discussion via a virtual segment. At 07:03, Steve Bannon lauds the Bolsonaro family as "heroes to the people in Brazil" and addresses the legal challenges Eduardo faces. Eduardo outlines a narrative of political persecution, asserting that Brazilian authorities are targeting him to undermine the Bolsonaro legacy. At 08:48, he details accusations against him for "violent abolish of the rule of law" and his criticisms of the Brazilian Supreme Court, arguing that these legal actions are part of a broader attempt to silence opposition.

Eduardo appeals to the US government and international bodies to sanction Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandra de Moraes, invoking the Magnitsky Act as a tool for addressing what he describes as "lawfare" against his family. At 11:29, he highlights Brazil's increasing alignment with China under President Lula da Silva, suggesting that this geopolitical shift exacerbates internal political strife.

Global Implications and Authoritarian Tactics

Steve Bannon draws parallels between the legal tactics used in Brazil against the Bolsonaros and those employed by authoritarian regimes like China. He warns of a global trend where democratic institutions are being undermined by populist leaders facing legal challenges orchestrated by their political adversaries.

Discussion on Israel and Iran Relations

Rabbi Walecki joins the conversation to discuss Israel's stance on Iran's nuclear ambitions. At 19:45, Rabbi Walecki emphasizes the existential threat Iran poses to Israel and underscores the necessity of dismantling Iran's nuclear capabilities. He articulates skepticism about diplomatic solutions without credible verification measures, arguing that only a "taken apart brick by brick" approach can effectively neutralize Iran's nuclear threat.

Bannon engages Rabbi Walecki on the feasibility of non-kinetic strategies versus diplomatic negotiations, questioning the possibility of a "no-kinetic" resolution to Iran's nuclear program. Rabbi Walecki maintains that without verifiable dismantlement, Iran remains a persistent threat, aligning with Israel's imperative to ensure national security.

Red-Blue Alliances and the Judeo-Christian West

The discussion delves into the ideological battles between Marxists, jihadists, and the Judeo-Christian Western civilization. Rabbi Walecki outlines the "Red Green alliance," a coalition of Marxist socialists and jihadist Muslims opposing Western values. At 39:35, he condemns the assassin's motives, linking them to anti-Israel sentiments and broader attempts to undermine Western civilization.

Jackie Toboroff further explores the intersection of religious institutions and radicalism in America. She raises concerns about the surge in mosque establishments and their potential ties to extremist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. At 44:45, Toboroff argues for the necessity of "forensic accounting" of mosques to uncover their financial and operational links to terrorist activities, contrasting this with the perceived absence of similar threats from Christian or Jewish institutions.

Challenges to Judeo-Christian Institutions

Toboroff highlights the decline of traditional churches and synagogues in America, juxtaposed with the growth of mosques. She posits a correlation between the rise of Islamist institutions and the increase in radical Islamists in the country. At 45:31, she questions whether the erosion of the Judeo-Christian faith foundations is contributing to the ascendancy of extremist ideologies.

She advocates for measures to protect American religious institutions, suggesting potential limitations on mosque construction and stricter regulations on religious organizations to prevent the spread of extremist ideologies.

Concluding Remarks and Call to Action

Steve Bannon wraps up the episode by emphasizing the global nature of the ideological battles discussed, referencing the upcoming BRICS meeting and its implications for the US dollar's dominance. He urges listeners to engage with the content and take proactive steps to protect Western civilization from internal and external threats.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Bannon (00:17): "Pray for our enemies because we're going."
• Steve Hilton (02:42): "The people who've been hammered the most by these insane far-left policies... is the opportunity to lead that populist revolution."
• Eduardo Bolsonaro (13:25): "They are accusing me of violent abolish of the rule of law... They want to show themselves as someone very scary."
• Rabbi Walecki (27:06): "Iran's trying to build a nuclear weapon. And if a negotiation can actually stop it, verifiably, yeah, we're in favor of that."
• Jackie Toboroff (46:24): "We have a real problem here in America with Islamists."

Key Takeaways:

1. Political Struggles in Brazil: Eduardo Bolsonaro faces legal challenges perceived as politically motivated attempts to undermine the Bolsonaro legacy, with strong support from US allies advocating for international sanctions against Brazilian judicial figures.

2. California’s Populist Movement: Steve Hilton outlines a strategic populist campaign aimed at transforming California's political landscape by mobilizing disenfranchised working-class Latinos against entrenched Democratic leadership.

3. Global Ideological Conflicts: The episode emphasizes the ongoing global conflict between populist nationalist movements and established liberal democracies, drawing connections between Brazil’s political turmoil, the rise of Islamist extremism, and the strategic responses needed to safeguard Western civilization.

4. Israel and Iran Tensions: A significant portion of the discussion centers on the existential threat Iran poses to Israel, advocating for a robust and verifiable approach to dismantling Iran's nuclear capabilities to ensure regional and global security.

5. Threats to Judeo-Christian Institutions: Concerns are raised about the decline of traditional religious institutions in America and the simultaneous rise of mosques linked to extremist groups, urging for protective measures to preserve the foundational values of Western society.

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from WarRoom Battleground EP 776, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the episode's major themes and arguments.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Medieval on these people.

[Steve Bannon]

You're just not going to free shot.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

All these networks lying about the people.

[Steve Bannon]

The people have had a belly full of it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you don't like hearing that.

[Steve Bannon]

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You'Re not going to stop it.

[Steve Bannon]

It's going to happen.

[Rabbi Walecki]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie?

[Rabbi Walecki]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

[Steve Bannon]

If that answer is to save my.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Foreign 27 May in the year of our Lord 2025, we're about to have shocking news coming out of Brazil. Eduardo Bolsonaro is going to join us in a moment. I want to go to California and Steve Hilton. Steve, you heard about the fiasco in Texas and in Texas is about as red as you can get. It's a MAGA state. President Trump won by 14 points. Ted Cruz won by nine points. Knowing that, sir, why are you running as a populist candidate in the state of California? Is there any hope? Is this a protest vote? Are you on a crusade to make populism better known or you got a shot to win here?

[Steve Hilton]

I think we got a shot, Steve. By the way, that was shocking to hear. What's going on in Texas? I've for a long time been saying California is the worst run state in America. Maybe Texas is now giving us some competition. Look, I'm very serious about this. And here's the path, right? 2026, the gubernatorial election in California is a midterm. You're going to have a lower turnout, rough. If you look at the average of the last two years, last two midterms, the vote that you can expect is about 11.8 million. To win in California next year, you need 5.9 million votes. President Trump just got 6.1 million. If every Trump voter turns out, now that is a big if. But if every Trump voter turns out, I'll be the governor. Now, of course, we're not going to get every Trump voter, but there's a huge untapped potential. And this is where it absolutely is all about populism. The people who've been hammered the most by these insane far left policies on climate and the taxes and the regulations, all the rest of the nonsense, the gender ideology in the Schools, who really is being hammered the most by that? Working class Latinos, the biggest demographic group effectively in California now. And that is the opportunity to lead that populist revolution, common sense, practical policies that make life easier for the working class in California.

[Steve Bannon]

Brother. Hang on, you just had, you just had Jake Comey on MSNBC over the weekend with Jen Psaki saying that our party, and particularly maga is white supremacists adjacent. Your response, sir?

[Steve Hilton]

So I've been spending time in East Los Angeles, Louisiana county, the biggest in the nation. Ten million people, most of east la, heavily Latino, working class, Latina. That's where I've been spending my time. They haven't seen a Republican there like ever. And you go there, these are the most conservative, common sense people you're going to meet. And they love President Trump. They love President Trump. You ask them about what he's doing on immigration. He's as tough as you are, Steve, in everything that they say. I mean, I have these conversations, I've put it out on my social media. Everyone can see. So it is total BS from the establishment and they can't stand the fact that it's actually the Trump revolution that is mobilizing the working class against the Democratic Party, against the elites and against the establishment.

[Steve Bannon]

It hasn't is the elites that run. Are there, are there at least around the California party who have never really embraced President Trump, are they prepared to allow a populist candidate that breathes MAGA to win the primary, Sir?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, I'm going to make sure of it one way or the other. I mean, look, look what happened. There's a very important example. It's why I launched my campaign in Huntington beach in Orange county, biggest city in Orange county. Just over four years ago, the city council was run 6:1 by Democrats. In 2022, a friend of mine who's now the co chair of the camp of my campaign put together a slate of candidates. Four of them called themselves the Fab Four. They took over, they immediately started input. They won and took control of the council, started removing homeless encampments, prosecuting crime, getting the nonsense out of the school libraries. They put voter ID on the ballot. All these common sense things just now in November, they ran a slate of seven candidates. Very important detail. They called themselves the Magnificent Seven. They weren't running away from Trump, they were embracing it and they all won. So you have, you've got that city. It's gone from six, one Democrat to 70 Republican in four years. And it was just rated the best run city in California. So to me, that is the model. That is how we do this, by embracing this populist revolution. And I don't know the establishment, as far as I'm concerned, they've been losing for decades. It's time we won.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve, last question for now. We're looking forward to getting you back here. Is Kamala Harris going to be your opponent in the, in the fall of 26?

[Steve Hilton]

Look, I hope so because the way I put it is the candidate who's going to win in 2026 is the candidate for change. And no one least represents change than Kamala Harris who's been knocking around in California politics for two decades. What we're hearing is that she's been told by the donors and by the machine that she's got no support to run for president. So if she wants to do anything, it's this. But I'd say it's not some consolation prize because she made such a disastrous presidential candidate. I don't know if she's going to do it. I hope she does it because we're going to get a massive amount of support from, from the whole country to beat her again. So bring it on. As far as I can, I'm concerned.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve, everybody that knows you and everybody work with you foxheads, you're incredibly nice guy. Are you too nice for modern bloodsport, Hand to hand combat, pop politics, sir?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, I don't know. I've been pretty aggressive in taking apart these Democrats. Their record is so disastrous. Right. On every measure that matters. We are the worst in the entire country. Newsom running around bragging about how we're the world's fourth biggest economy, we have the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment, all these things, right. I'm not shy of taking it to the one party rule. We have 15 years of one party rule and I'm going to stick it to them. So I don't know, maybe I'll do it with a smile on my face, but I'm not going to hold back.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve Hilton, where did people go to find out more about you and more about your campaign, sir.

[Steve Hilton]

Thank you, Steve. So you can follow me at Steve hiltonx on X. We've got a ton of video we're putting out every day. I'm on the road the whole timevehiltonext and the campaign website. SteveHiltonForGovernor.com.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve, thank you so much. Go with God. Godspeed on this one, Steve.

[Steve Hilton]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Tough fight, long odds, but you're a tough guy. Thank you, brother.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Eduardo Bolsonaro The Bolsonaro's are one of the most important families in all world politics. Been heroes to the people in Brazil, heroes to people throughout the world. You know, Eduardo, my sister, every night, every time for, for blessing, she, she specifically prays for your family, your father. And now we're adding you specifically talk about what's happened here over the last 48 hours in Brazil to now, not just your father's on trial essentially for his life because they want to put him in prison forever and have him assassinated in prison. Now they're coming after you. How did, how did we get into a situation that quite frankly the US Government, I know people are working on it, but have not dropped the hammer on these radical judges. And now we have you being investigated, sir. Okay, Eduardo, I think you've got your mute on. You're going to have to take your mood off.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Oh, sorry.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

My fault. Sorry.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, that's. Take it from the top.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Last week, Representative Corey Mills from Florida, he asked in a hearing for Secretary of State Marco Rubio or the possibility that the Supreme Court justice from Brazil, Alexandra Jimoraes, could be sanctioned with OFAC sanctions through the Magnitsky Global Magnitsky act here United States, if Trump could sanction Alexandrij Moraes, this crazy justice from the Supreme Court that banned X from Brazil, that attended Jason Miller for a couple of hours in Brazil that is doing a lot of terrible things and persecuting all the right wing people in Brazil and Rubio Anstrad saying that yes, this issue is under analysis in United States and probably Alexander de Moraes is going to be sanctioned by the Trump administration. So after this then the establishment in Brazil woke up and realized that the work that we are doing here in US together with people from the Congress, from the Republican Party and also from Trump administration, this work is serious and Morales is under a high risk to be sanctioned. So now they are like really debating what to do. And yesterday the Attorney General asked Alexandri Morales to open a new investigation against me in Brazil. But this, Steve, is not something against me because they know that they cannot touch me while I am in US I'm talking here now from Dallas, Texas. But it's a message to everybody in Brazil that if they are doing that with the son of the former president, the most voted ever congressman in the history of Brazil, the former chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, imagine what they could do with anyone else in Brazil if they do the semi that I do, which basically is criticize the Supreme Court. So I think we are very close to sanction de Morais. And something that they are really concerned in Brazil is because they already know that the US intelligence mapped all the lawsuits that belongs to the wives and the families of some of the justice of the Supreme Court. So this is how they earn a lot of money. This is how justice of the Supreme Court in Brazil with a monthly salary, salary of six or $7,000 can have, you know, Patek Philippe watches of hundreds of dollars. And they are really like, they're really crazy with that.

[Steve Bannon]

Eduardo. Do they? You know, Lula, correct me if I'm wrong, he went to I think the ve Victory in Europe commemoration in Moscow with Xi and Putin and then I believe he went to, to to Beijing with with Xi. The relationship of Brazil is getting closer and closer every day with the Chinese Communist Party, is it not?

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Yeah, that's true. Couple of months ago, Lula da Silva, president of Brazil signed with Xi Jinping 37 agreements about energy, satellite communications, uranium exchange programs for media and a lot of other issues. And this is very important because can be the turning point to Brazil really, you know, influential area from China and really cutting all the relations with the United States. We do not have a very good relations nowadays with United States. I mean, the Lula administration, with the Trump administration. And it's really hard because Lula is really going to the hands of China. Even the former, the current first lady of Brazil, during a dinner with Xi Jinping, she asked Xi Jinping to interfere in TikTok because she said that TikTok in Brazil is a platform that is serving the right wing politicians. And she doesn't want that, she wants censorship. So even this is on the table. And the Xi Jinping said that he's going to send a special envoy to Brazil to take care of all the TikTok to stop with this. As they said, this good influence of TikTok for the right wing politicians in Brazil.

[Steve Bannon]

So just so people understand the open investigation they're trying to open, what are they trying to do to you? They already got your father in this kangaroo court and they're going to find him guilty because it's all rigged. Right? Your father did absolutely nothing wrong. Right?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He did.

[Steve Bannon]

What every patriot in Brazil should do is question that stolen election because the election was stolen. What are they specifically coming after you and what's the risk that they could be able to try to do something bad? We understand you can't be extradited. You're beloved here in the United States. Not just the Trump administration. So many different People in this country. But what are they trying to prove on you?

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

They are accusing me of violent abolish of the rule of law. They're saying that I am anti democratic man working against the institution of Brazil, against institutions like the Supreme Court of Brazil. And I'm a threat to democracy. These crimes combined can bring me to the. To the jail for more than 12 years in jail. And this is coming from the nothing because last month the same attorney general said that what I was doing here in the United States, it was completely legal. But now that they woke up and they listened at Secretary Marco Robio talking, that they probably they are going to sanction Mora now. They overturn everything. They change their mind and they are disrespirated. They don't even try to, you know, to. To fake to look at someone that is following a law or is following any kind of democratic rule. They just say that we are going after you and that's it. They want to show themselves as someone very scary, you know, to people be afraid to tweet or to post on social media. This is the point. And not only me, they also just supinate sumanet my father to be listened in the same investigation because my father said in an interview that he was helping me with money, sending money to me here in the United States. And now they want to listen my father, the former president Jerry Bolsonaro, about this relation with me. You know, they are trying to stop me here in the United States by taking my family in Brazil. It's usual as all of the dictatorships all around the world. It's like the Cuban doctors. When you have any country hiring Cuban doctors, their families, they stay in Cuba as hostages just like me. I'm exiled here in the United States. But my father is in Brazil and he has a trap and ban on him. He doesn't have his passport. He cannot travel abroad. This is how this regime is working in Brazil. That's why we ask all of the authorities here in the United States to sanction Alejandra de Moraes as fast as possible to do not give a room to them, to try to overturn this situation.

[Steve Bannon]

He's one of the worst guys in the world and there's going to be ofac sanctions that that's coming. He's a terrible person. And they're Lula and that crowd in the courts are taking this right from the CCP playbook. This is absolutely the way they run China. And this is. You saw in our. We started the show this morning at 10 o' clock in South Korea. You see what's happening in Korea. This is global. Eduardo, where do people go on social media to follow you? Because this is of extremely high interest to the maga movement here in the United States.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Sir, my social media is Bolsonaro sp. It's like my last name, Bolsonaro sp. Unfortunately, we, we do not have Rumble in Brazil. Alexandri Morales didn't let Rumble go to Brazil. And also because of that, if you are watching me from Brazil, you cannot watch the videos on Truth Social because Truth Social, they use the same service of rumb in this, in the platform, but in all of the other social medias, I'm Bolsonaro sp. I don't know until when I will have them because Moraisword he's also asking about my social medias because he says that I'm feding him through social media. You know, he's a very sensitive man for sure. So they wanted to go down with all of that. This is how our regime try to sustain, try to breathe on the last moment. And I do believe that their end is very soon. It's going, it's coming.

[Steve Bannon]

It's definitely coming. And if he's a sensitive guy, he better get ready to be sensitive in prison because when Bolsonaro, Captain Bolsonaro wins again, he's definitely going to prison. Eduardo, we got. Thank you so much for taking time away.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Thank you, Beno. Bye bye.

[Steve Bannon]

Leaving by a lot. He's leaving by a lot. That's why he got him in court. Same thing with, with Le Pen in France. Bolsonaro, he's leading Lula because Lula's driving the country into a ditch. People in Brazil know that. That's why this is so outrageous. This is lawfare. This is what they try to do to Trump, put him in prison. They're doing the exact same thing to your father. It's actually more dangerous because they want to assassinate your father in prison. And now they're coming after you because you're the, you're biggest supporter and you're the next generation. It's outrageous.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Yes. So yes, that's it. We'll get all the social media. When you look the bigger picture, you know what is coming. So what we have to do is we have to resist, we have to fight back. If they want to silence us, that is the moment that we have to speak. And I really needed to thank everybody in the White House who is opening their doors, all the congressmen and the senators that we are talking. And I hope, God that very soon, Magnitsky Sanctions are going to arrive on our eyes and let's see their reaction because we have a very good project to stop him and get back again the normality of democracy of Brazil.

[Steve Bannon]

Brother. Thank you so much, Eduardo. We got your back on this one.

[Eduardo Bolsonaro]

Thank you very much, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Eduardo Bolsonaro. What an incredibly brave family. Incredibly brave with the entire state apparatus of these Marxists. Lula, one of the worst cretins on earth in this judge, the Supreme Court, Judge Morales. Even worse, those sanctions are coming as sure as the turning of the earth. Okay, Rabbi Walecki has done such a magnificent job of connecting the dots of the Chinese Communist Party. Let's play a cold open for him, then we'll go right to him in Jerusalem.

[Jackie Toboroff]

We discussed Iran and we discussed where Israel's position was. And I also delivered the message on where the President was. And the President will never accept a nuclear capable Iran. He will never accept them having nuclear weapons and building the capacity to that the intelligence information that they have and that Israel has and they share with the United States and that we also have and are using for those conversations is critically important. So I think the message to the American people is, is we have a president that wants peace, but also a president that will not tolerate nuclear Iran capability in the future. They will not be able to get a nuclear weapon and this president will not allow it. But he also wants to be this, he wants this Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be on the same page with him.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Rabbi, first off, I'm confused. I think we got enough chefs. You got Marco Rubio, you got Steve Witkoff, you've got, you got the ambassador, you got Huckabee. No, we got, we got a good team. And I'd love me some Kristi Noem, but I thought we were deporting bad guys out of here. Why is Kristi Noem in Israel or Tel Aviv having discussions with Netanyahu on. On nuclear Persia, sir.

[Rabbi Walecki]

Well, Steve, if you don't mind, right before I get to that, I have to make a comment about Eduardo Bolsonaro. It's an honor to be on the show right after him. Just a few months ago in January, there was a young Israeli named Yuval Vagdani, a survivor of the Nova Festival massacre, who also served in the idf, who after his army service went on a visit to South America with some friends and they were in Brazil. And some pro Hamas organization reached out to the Brazilian authorities and asked them to investigate him for war crimes. And the Brazilian Federal Court, we all know how Corrupt they are. They started investigating this young man for war crimes. And it was Eduardo Bolsonaro, none other than him, who stepped in and fought the fight to get them to back off and help this young man get out of Brazil safely. And the Bolsonaro family has been great friends of Israel for a long time. I just wanted to point that out. It's a great honor to be on the show after him. As for Kristi Noem being in Israel, the official reason has to do with the horrible murder of two staffers from the Israeli embassy who were murdered in Washington D.C. last week. And because Israel has, of course, a great interest in this investigation into not only the killer, we know who the killer was, but all of the ties that this killer has and all the jihadist Red Green alliance factions in the United States that are behind these types of activities. Israel is very interested in this. So officially she came over to pay a visit to honor the two deceased staffers. She planted a tree in their memory and it was a diplomatic visit. But she also, as you saw in that clip, she came here to talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu and relay a specific message about the Iran negotiations. And from the reports that we're getting, it's very clear that she wanted to make sure she said it there herself. She wanted to make sure that Prime Minister Netanyahu, that Israel is not about to launch attacks on Iran, to launch strikes on Iran while these negotiations are going on, scuttling the negotiations, they want to make sure that Israel's on the same page. And that's what she meant there when she said that she wanted to let things play out. But it appears that there is agreement and they do see eye to eye. I spoke to some people in the Prime Minister's office today just to make sure I was reading things right. And President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu do see eye to eye on the idea that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. And this cannot be stressed enough. There seems to be some confusion about this. There's a lot of people claiming that Iran plans is building a civilian nuclear program, which they are not. That's an absurdity. They have some of the cheapest electricity in the world and one of the largest.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on. As you know, we're adamant about no nuclear weapons with the Persians. But you can't do that with a verification, because isn't this what we're coming down to? The non kinetic alternative is, I think, a, an embargo, a blockade. You cut the oil off to the ccp, which is their partner. We everybody, this is why one of the reasons I wanted to have you follow Bolsonaro because it's two sides of kind of the same coin. What's happening to the Bolsonaro is driven by Lula, who's a partner of xi. He's all over xi. It's just like the mullahs in Tehran. This thing is, you can connect the dots quite what's happening in South Korea, our great allies in South Korea and the radicalness of these, of these kids who don't have a ton of information but have these strong opinions. It's all being, you know, today we had Mina Kim and some great people from, you know, Colonel Mills, Ambassador Tan, live from Korea, saying, hey, the CCP's all over. You got Chinese paramilitary, Chinese policemen walking the streets. It's pretty shocking. So how do we get. You can't have a verification program. You have to have a take it apart program. Do you believe, or people in Israel at the highest levels believe that we can actually get to a diplomatic solution or a non kinetic where it's actually not verification because you can't trust these guys. They're crazy, they're bad guys, but they're also not dealing in like the Cartesian universe. So to talk about a verification hell, we went through that in Iraq forever. Obviously we found out it was, it was nonsense. Right. And the weapons of mass destruction information was gun decked. But can you have, can you go down the path of a negotiation where it's just to verification or does that have to lead to a solution that actually takes it apart brick by brick by American authorities, Not UN but American authorities, sir.

[Rabbi Walecki]

It has to be taken apart brick by brick. Now let's remember that they don't live in democracies that have elections every four years. And even though sanctions could be very crippling, and I'm very much in favor of crippling sanctions, in the first Trump administration, they could not sell their oil or any of their petrochemical products pretty much to anybody. I think only North Korea was buying them and they were dead broke. They didn't have money for Hamas and Hezbollah and they were on the verge of collapse. Now, whether they were, you know, whether they would have collapsed had Trump walked into the Oval Office as he rightly should have in 2021, had, had, would they have collapsed by now or not? Hard to say. But it looked like they were on the verge of collapse and I'm in favor of that. The problem is that as you say, without verification, they could wait it out and they don't care how much their people starve and they, you know, as long as they can control them. And right now they are teetering in that regard. But if they feel their calculus is. And Pezesha Khsian, however you pronounce his name, the president of Iran, who's really just a mouthpiece just the other day said we're not afraid of sanctions. We will get through the hard times of the sanctions if we need to, but we're not going to stop enriching uranium. And Khamenei said it has been saying it over and over again. They're not going to stop. And retro.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Rabbi Walecki]

Well, I'll just put it in Prime Minister Netanyahu's terms. He just said it to the Israeli people the other day. He said, listen, we're fine with a deal if it actually verifiably dismantles Iran's nuclear program, but it can't be one of these things where it just kicks it down the road for a few years, or they're still allowed to enrich uranium and there's just kind of like, some oversight, because then when the next US Administration comes in, we're back to square one, as long as it's actually verifiable. Now, we have serious doubts, especially the Iranians have been digging in, especially over the last couple of weeks since President Trump's visit to Qatar. And I'm gonna put things right on the table, Steve. When President Trump was in Qatar, and he basically said. Said that the Iranians should be thanking the Qataris because he basically admitted that he kind of made a commitment to the Qataris not to attack Iran. The problem here is that without a credible threat, a credible threat of kinetic attacks, the Iranians will dig in on their positions. It's not that we're just sitting here, war monitoring, asking for attacks, is that there has to be a real credible threat, otherwise the Iranians are not going to back down and they're not going to cooperate in the negotiations. And they're already signaling, as I said before, Khamenei said it the other day, Pesrsian said it, and the foreign minister, Arakchi, said it yesterday, they will not stop enriching uranium. They're thumbing their nose at the United States. So we have our doubts. And from Israel's perspective, this is an existential issue. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, whether it's now or 10 years from now, if Iran gets a nuclear weapon that is an existential threat to Israel. One big mistake that Westerners make is that we assume that these people have motives similar to ours. It's not just that they're not in the Cartesian universe, as you said, Steve. They are ideologically driven. And you hear it so often from Western diplomats, they say, well, you know, we could buy them up off. It's economic. We can. Maybe they just want to have a civilian nuclear energy program, which they don't. They have the cheapest and most plentiful natural gas in the world. They don't need nuclear energy. Obviously, they're doing this and incurring all these sanctions to the tune of trillions of dollars that it's cost them over the years. They're not doing that because they need to save a couple cents on energy that they already have in plentiful capacity. They have a lousy grid, but the nuclear reactors aren't going to help them with that. The Iranians are trying to build a nuclear weapon. And if a negotiation can actually stop it, verifiably, yeah, we're in favor of that. But Israel has an existential problem we have to deal with. So of course, as Kristi Noem said, we need the Americans. We need to be on the same page. And we also know that the longer we wait, the longer Iran has to rebuild its air defense. And let me add something, Steve, and here I'm going to push back a little bit we talk about. But attacking Iran would drag us into something more. Iran doesn't have much of a ground force anyway. Iran's military capabilities are very much their missile program, their drone program, and to quote one general here in Israel who I thought put it very nicely, Amir Avivi, you've had him on the show. Bringing down Iran is not the beginning of a war. It's actually the end of a war. It's much more similar to the bombing of the Japanese at the end of World War II.

[Steve Bannon]

Unfortunately, Iranians have lose. But unfortunately. I know. But unfortunately, with 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is zero. That argument will never.

[Rabbi Walecki]

Oh, I understand. I understand. I understand why. I understand why Americans. Why Americans?

[Steve Bannon]

In fact, in fact, I don't, I don't, I don't believe it. I, I know they've got that. No, their air defense is nothing. But you're talking about an ancient civilization that if attacked like that, it's just not going to roll over. So I totally disagree. Let me go to another topic. This is about this global intifada, the red green merger. You've been great on CCP involvement everywhere, the black hand of the ccp. You've also been one of the top guys of red green merger. And I don't have this fully. I'm just getting this very partially. I just want to throw it out there where I got you that the assassin, this young guy Gonzalez or Rodriguez, that there's now some text messages or people and they're saying, hey, he wasn't anti Semitic. He didn't hate Jewish people. He hates the Jewish state. He thinks the Jewish state is a genocidal state. And that anybody that works with a genocidal state is therefore, by definition a war criminal and is open to be assassinated. But he's got no problem with the Jewish people, and he's certainly not anti Semitic or a Jew hater. Your thoughts?

[Rabbi Walecki]

Sure. He has nothing against the Jewish people. So long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an actual nation, and so long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an ancient nation, we have an unbroken chain of record of exactly who we are and where we've been for thousands of years. So he has no problem with Jews who are completely disconnected from their history and their heritage and don't want to have their own nation state in their ancient homeland? Of course. So, yeah, he's gonna tell us what Judaism is and then say that the Judaism in his head he has no problem with, but he actually has a problem with actual Jewish nationhood. That's his problem. I would call that anti Semitism. Again, I don't care what's anti Semitism or not. That's not the point here. Look, this is a guy indoctrinated by what you call the Red Green Alliance. He was active in blm. He was active in all sorts of socialist Marxist causes. He also hates Israel. This is the Red. When we talk about the Red Green alliance, we're talking about the Muslims, the jihadist Muslims, and the leftist atheist socialist Marxists that have come together. It's the same thing as Iran and the CCP working together. It's the Marxist socialists and the jihadist Muslims who despise Western civilization. They despise the Judeo Christian foundation of Western civilization. And nothing is more abhorrent to them than the fulfillment of biblical prophecy by the Jewish people. After thousands of years returning to our homeland and reconstituting our nation state with Jerusalem as its capital. There's nothing more abhorrent to them than that. First of all, the fulfillment of prophecy must scare the living daylights out of them. But look, this goes back to the wars between the Christians and the Muslims over Jerusalem. Who controls Jerusalem is really what it's all about. You know what Hamas calls this war? This October 7th war. They have a name for it. They call it the Al Aqsa Flood. Al Aqsa is their name for the Temple Mount. As far as they're concerned. As far as Hamas is concerned, this war is about Jerusalem. And that's really what this whole conflict is about. When you talk about Bolsonaro versus Lula, you're talking about a Christian versus a Marxist. Marxist. You're talking about Bolsonaro, who understands that Israel is fighting on the vanguard of the defense of Western civilization. And that's why Bolsonaro supporters typically bring Israeli flags to their anti Lula rallies, which is an interesting thing, because they understand that Israel's struggle is the kinetic frontlines of the global struggle against this combination of Marxists and jihadists who are trying to take down the Biblically based Judeo Christian West. That's what this is all about. This kid who assassinated those two staffers at the Israeli embassy is the avatar for the entire Red Green alliance. Here he is declaring now in text messages that he has no problem with Jews. He has no problem with Jews. He has no problem with some Jews who are just eternally scattered in the exile and aren't really that committed to their Judaism that he's fine with. But actual Jews who believe in Judaism, who embrace their Jewish heritage and nationality, who want to have their own nation state in their ancient homeland, those are the Jews he has a problem with. In other words, he has an actual problem with the real Jews, with Jews of the Bible, with Jews who are fulfilling the destiny of the Jewish people for thousands of years. That's what he has a problem with. This is the Red Green alliance on American soil attacking Israel. And Americans need to wake up. Americans really need to wake up. You look all over the world and the populist nationalist Christian right everywhere in the world is adamantly pro Israel. Whether it's the Orban supporters, the wilder supporters, the vox supporters in Spain, go down the list. They all understand that Israel's fight is the battle for Western civilization. And somehow, somehow in America, in the America first movement. Too many, too many in our movement, Steve. And I say our movement. I've been part of MAGA from the beginning. Too many in our movement have lost the plot.

[Steve Bannon]

Rabbi, where do people go to get all your writings and your social media?

[Rabbi Walecki]

The best place to follow my updates from Israel is the Israel365 YouTube channel. You can also follow my podcast, the Shoulder to Shoulder podcast, on all podcast platforms. And I'm at Rabbi PW on X and Getter.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, Rabbi. Appreciate you staying up late tonight in Jerusalem to join us. Appreciate you, thank you.

[Rabbi Walecki]

God bless Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Imagine that'll start a few conversations. Jackie Toboroff. Jackie, this piece we're on, this about Christianity, the Judeo Christian west, radical jihad. You bring up a quite unpleasant topic in your but one we have to address in your article. What is it, ma' am?

[Jackie Toboroff]

So let me connect everything for you. Churches. Churches are on the brink of extinction. Synagogues are declining. This is the basis for Judeo Christian America. What is surging is mosque growth. 165 and with that, we see a spike in Islamists here in America. And we have to ask, are these things correlated? How many of these mosques have been radicalized, creating radical Islamists, doing what happened in D.C. and terrorizing Columbia and in Michigan and quite frankly throughout America?

[Steve Bannon]

So here's the question. Is it. Is it because the vibrancy and urgency of the faith, like, you know, there's so many, you know, liberal Jewish parts of the Jewish religion. There's so many, you know, the mainstream Protestant and also the mainstream Catholic has gotten so liberal, they're falling off. You see these traditional, like Latin Mass Catholics, Rabbi Willicki and his group, the. The conservative, the ones getting back to tradition are growing and they're vibrant, but they're smaller than the official. Are we just losing our faith? Is the Judeo Christian west losing their faith in the basic core spiritual part of what is the foundational element for us? And the jihadist are on the rise because however they indoctrinate people, however they have formation, they just have more intensity right now, ma' am.

[Jackie Toboroff]

I mean, there's something called separation of church and state. And what's so amazing about this is that they are against when I say they, you know, educators, and really many Americans are against for. For very valid reasons having Christian law or Jewish law rule. Why isn't it the same thing with Islamist law? There is separation of church and state. And what is going on with these mosques is some of them are tied to Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. They've been linked in the Holy Land trial as unindicted co conspirators for funneling money to Hamas. So really what needs to happen is some sort of forensic accounting of some of these mosques. Because quite frankly, we don't have a Jewish terrorism problem and we don't have a Christian terrorism problem. We have a real problem here in America with Islamists. And we have to. We have to see if this is correlated to the surge in mosques. And for sure.

[Steve Bannon]

But, yeah, but Jackie, you just had Comey on. We played the clip earlier in the show about Comey sitting there going, the problem is one party, that would be the Republican Party, specifically the MAGA wing of it is white supremacists adjacent. And they would actually argue, as they did when they ran the deal, and this is why we gotta take it apart, that their idea is the biggest threat to the country is Christian Nationalism of which they say is just a front for a white supremacist terrorist organization. Ma' am.

[Jackie Toboroff]

Right. This is the same sort of thing that Eric Adam used. Eric Adams New York City Mayor Eric Adams when he was talking about the subways, he blamed it on white supremacists and figments of our imagination. It's total lies. People see through this. The issue is, is that even though we are experiencing some sort of Islamist fatigue, it's boring seeing these daily riots and occupations and you know, screeching downwardly mobile people. But nonetheless we've been infiltrated and we really have to look at if this thing in D.C. is a lone wolf or if they are just creating more Muslims and non Muslim extremists.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. Because this young man in. In. This young man didn't look like an Islamist. In fact he looked like a. A neo Marxist radical that had come up and his formation had been in kind of that. When we talk about the Red Green alliance, theirs was the. The Marxist part of it where he hated capitalism, he hated the United States of America. I think somebody just sent me a text that he was talking about. He's a porter of a white genocide, a genocide against whites. But he twisted ideology that twisted him. So what is our way out of here? Your report is. This article is amazing. What is your recommendation? What's the way out?

[Jackie Toboroff]

I think there are a couple of things we need to look into. Nate and Isna. And the explanation for what both of those nonprofits are is in the article. So for time, I'm not going to get into it, but we should look into those. I think we should not allow churches to be sold, repurposed. We really have to protect the Judeo Christian American ethos. Maybe there should be a cap on how many mosques should be built. I'm not quite sure what the solution is, but something has to happen because we are losing the plot here. I mean there has to be some sort of.

[Steve Bannon]

You're saying I say this in England. You're saying right now you want to see a moratorium on any mortal. More church structures that are turned over to real estate developers that become these mini malls or boutiques like the. The magnificent church in New York City, I think on 6th Avenue that was turned into a nightclub and now it's some sort of boutique. You say for right now you want to see a cessation of all that.

[Jackie Toboroff]

Yeah. And I'll tell you what the real issue is with this. It's Islamism is really the reordering of government according to Sharia law. There should be some sort of federal ban on sharia law. I don't want to wear a hijab. No one in Tribeca does. No one in New York City does. We don't want hijabs. And we really need to do something to combat this. This poisonous ideology that has completely overtaken our American institutions of higher education.

[Steve Bannon]

Jackie, where do people go to get your articles? All your writings and social media? You are on fire, ma' am.

[Jackie Toboroff]

Thank you, sir. Please go to my Instagram. Jacqueline4nyc that is J A C Q U E L I N E F O R N Y C. Subscribe and that's it. You can find me there.

[Steve Bannon]

I like. I like this idea about churches. I'm gonna contact you afterwards. We gotta talk to sir. Jackie Toro. Thank you so much. You're a fire breather.

[Jackie Toboroff]

Thank you.

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