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WarRoom Battleground EP 793: Keeping A Strong Dollar; History Of Key Conflicts Across The World
WarRoom Battleground EP 793: Keeping A Strong Dollar; History Of Key Conflicts Across The World ...
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Steve Bannon
So the first one is a deficit. The second one is effectively that the dollar is losing its status as a reserve currency.
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Philip Patrick
What proof do you have of that though?
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Steve Bannon
You can see the accumulation of gold in the reserves and the behavior of gold over the past few 12 months. And it didn't start with Trump's policies. Of course. It started with Biden when he froze the accounts of people connected to Putin.
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Nicholas Taleb
Right.
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Steve Bannon
And of course thinking that it'd be limited there. But people not connected to Putin, okay, decided to stay away from a euro and a dollar. And gold is effectively now the reserve currency. Transactions take place in dollars, euros usually dol and at the same rate, however, they get converted back into gold.
- [01:06]
Philip Patrick
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Nicholas Taleb
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Philip Patrick
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Nicholas Taleb
War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
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Philip Patrick
Thursday 19 June ear of alert 2025 welcome. Thanks for sticking around for the second hour. I want to go right back to Philip Patrick. Philip, describe who that, who the who that speaker was, his prominence as a thinker and I was pretty impressed. He basically sounded like Philip Patrick and Steve Bannon on the War Room, did he not, sir?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
He did indeed. This is the stuff we've been talking about for a long time. And this is Nicholas Taleb. He coined the phrase black swan. He is a very, very well respected academic and economist. And the reality is there is no argument, right? You and I have seen this. We've been talking about this. Gold became the number two global reserve asset last year, overtaking the euro. And it's de dollarization that has been driving that trend. US dollar holdings are at 330 year lows by central banks and that trend is continuing. We know why.
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Nicholas Taleb
Right?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
And Taleb said it himself, it was Biden's weaponization of the dollar back in 2020, just as the book Paper Soldiers specifies, just as we said back in 2022, exactly what would happen. And it is playing out in front of us today. It is a frightening proposition and we have to start taking action now.
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Philip Patrick
This is why. And this all flows into what the Chinese announced yesterday. By the way, it's paper shoulders show soldiers from Celia Motion from Bloomberg came on a couple of weeks ago, talked about the weaponization of dollar and how it played into the kind of the rise of gold, the Rio reset. This all plays in the New York Times had the Chinese finance minister and this wasn't some crank, this is the guy really in charge of all finance for the Chinese Communist Party and all of China, the second biggest economy world actually laying out kind of a plan of how they can compete with the US dollar as a, as a prime reserve currency. Understanding it's going to take a while but with tlip people are gearing up for this BRICS meeting, right? This BRICS meeting they are going particularly with the United States in this geostrategic position it's in and maybe sucked into another Middle Eastern war. The BRICS nations are coming for us, are they not sir?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Yeah, they absolutely are. And you're absolutely correct. He was trying to central banker basically came out, he didn't say it in these words but he basically said we want a world without the dollar. Right. Saying that one currency in particular poses a global risk. Right. And that's the rhetoric that's circling at the moment. Now I don't think it's too late. Right. China have their own systemic problems. They're not ready to overtake the United States as global reserve. At the end of the day, we are still the destination for the world's capital and we have been for decades. Right. I've said before, we're a quarter of the world's GDP, 2/3 of the world's capital.
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Philip Patrick
Right.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
That's not just strength, it's dominance. But what people have to understand is that dominance has been built on the dollar, right? Its stability, its predictability and ultimately it's strength. Right. So if China and the BRICS succeed in dethroning it, we're not just talking about currency devaluation, we're talking about losing control of the global financial system. And that has been our strength. Now I don't think, and you've said it yourself and we've said it, it doesn't happen tomorrow. The dollar is still the cleanest dirty shirt. Other currencies are worse, the yuan specifically, but the dollar is, is filthy. Right. And that in on itself is a frightening position to be in. It was US strength, economic prowess, that was our advantage. Now just being the best of A terrible bunch. I think long term it is unsustainable. So in my mind if we do not make swift changes, this is how I think it progresses. I think we start to move into a more multipolar world. And that is already happening, right? We're seeing bilateral trade agreements or non dollar denominated bilateral trade agreements, I should say. We've seen record years of central bank gold buying, right? But what it does mean is the first national bloc that can offer a clean shirt. They're going to be in a position to dominate. And that is exactly why we've got to keep our eye on the Rio Reset. This is what these guys are created. A 21st century alternative to the existing dollar denominated system. It allows for multicurrency international transactions and importantly it's firewalled to from US oversight. So if this continues to gather steam, and right now it is, we're looking at a permanent loss of our most powerful non kinetic weapon. Not the end of the dollar, but the end of the dollar's dominance. Or should I say for a shameless plug. The end of the dollar empire.
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Philip Patrick
That was a pretty good call four years ago. I want everybody to go check it out now. It's all free. They're teaching in college levels because it's so accessible in finance courses in college, but it's totally accessible. I don't care if you don't have a high school degree. I don't care if you've even gone to high school. You read this, you'll start to, you know, you're trying to build your mental map. You'll understand the nomenclature. This thing's very well graphically laid out. The end of the dollar empire. The seventh free installment, the Rio Reset. We talked everything about the Brics nations. Philip, make sure at 98 take your phone out for a simpler, quicker pamphlet brochure. Totally free Bannon at 989-898. But the key, wherever you go, make sure you connect to Philip Patrick and his team over at Birchgold. They will take the time to describe to you and explain to you all the methodologies of how you can get into precious metals. Philip Patrick, thank you so much brother. Appreciate you.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Thank you. Steve.
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Philip Patrick
Dr. Bradley Thayer, we talked a little bit about today. I want to make sure people understand what I talk about. The accelerating rate of history. When you go through these like turnings or go through these times of history. The old saying, I think it was actually Lenin. There are decades in which nothing happens in their weeks, which decades happen. We seem to be in one of those. Now, let's go back to the First World War of what happened there and caught people one of the most beautiful. And I think they always talked about it, didn't they? Dr. Thayer? Europe was experiencing one of the most beautiful summers they had ever had. The summer of 1914, sir.
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Ava
That's right, Steve. And a lot of the same arguments were made. A lot of Europeans thought that war could never happen, that economies were too interdependent actually to bring about conflict, to bring about war. And it was a thing of the past. So we need to keep in mind three major points. First, great power wars can start for lots of reasons. Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor, Hitler's decisions to invade Poland, France, the Soviet Union and declare war on the United States. But wars can also occur for great power wars can occur due to escalation. That is, a regional conflict can escalate into a great power war. And World War I is a classic case of that. What happened there was that, in event, a Serbian nationalist in Sarajevo assassinates Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife while they're visiting Bosnia Herzegovina. And as a result of that assassination, the Austrians want to put pressure on Serbia. So you have really the dynamics of a regional conflict. They go to the Germans, and the Germans, Kaiser Wilhelm II and the Chancellor Bettman Hollweg, give the Austrians what's called the blank check, saying that they're going to back up the Austrians no matter what the Austrians do. So it's a big mistake on behalf of the Germans. So the Austrian Hungarians pressure the Serbians and give them an ultimatum which is unacceptable to Serbia. The Serbians are looking to the Russians as Slav brothers. Russians particularly traditionally have helped out Serbia and other Slavic peoples. And so a dynamic of a regional conflict now was bringing in other great powers and the interests of other great powers. Anyway, Serbia offers, delivers the ultimatum, Serbia rejects it, and then Austria, Hungary declares war on Serbia. So you have a regional conflict get started almost immediately. And there's a critical week between July 25 and August 1 of 1914, where things really accelerate. And here we had that same dynamic, of course, with the war between Israel and Iran. And in that week, July 25 to August 1, you had Austro Hungary invade Serbia. You then had Russian demands made against Austria, Hungary. The French are pushing the Russians in this crisis because if war is going to come, Russia is going to be slow to mobilize, and France knows Germany's going to get involved, and the French need the Russians to mobilize as rapidly as possible. However, Russian mobilization is a casus belli for the Germans. If Russia mobilizes, Germany's going to have to enact the Schlieffen plan.
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Philip Patrick
But hang on, because mobilization is the point I want to get to. Because mobilization because of advances in technology. You had railroads, you had logistics, you had weapons, you had horses. The process itself started war because then human action couldn't stop it. The thing about August of 1914 that is very similar to today. There seem to be forces out there of processes that are out there for both economic reasons, political reasons, military reasons, technology. The logistics of actually getting over to places like Persia or the Middle East. There's a reason that people get most upset when they say forever wars about this thing in the Middle east that's halfway around the world. As I said as a young naval officer, you know, during the early days of the hostage crisis, you go to. You go to the North Arabian Sea, and Iran looks like the moon. It looks like the moonscape. It's not. If you're coming from the United States, it's just like nothing you've ever seen before. All of a sudden you say, I'm back in an ancient land. This is like, I'm not in. I'm not in Kansas anymore. Okay? We're inexorably drawn in these things. And mobilization was what happened then is that all of a sudden these guys started mobilizing. People took it as a sign of, hey, they're going to war. But they couldn't stop it. They couldn't, because to stop one train was whether you're in France, whether you're in England, particularly the von Schlieffeld plan in Germany was to stop the whole process. And the process got to be the thing itself. Correct?
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Ava
Right. AJP Taylor wrote that great history, war by timetable, right, where you were basically locked in to railroad schedules due to that. So as you said, both France, Russia and Germany, most importantly, were locked in. So you had time to avoid the crisis early, but that time passed, and then there were enormous pressures to escalate very quickly. And that's something that we worry about today, of course, right. Where this has to be. World War I was a tragedy in many respects. It could have been avoided at many points in time. But that dynamic that you identified, Steve, took over. And as a result of it, you had a regional conflict become a European great power war. And then once the British come in, it becomes a world war. And that happens basically within a week or eight or nine days.
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Philip Patrick
So it's very fast, like I said this morning, and this is what the unknown, you know, the unknown quality, the law of unintended consequences. This thing is the front page of the Times of London, I think, the day after the Archduke was shot, because this, I'm not saying it's a backwater, but it's the Austro Hungary Empire. It's kind of creaky. It's got all these countries, all these crowns. I mean, this is like the epitome of, of, you know, comic opera, right? And it wasn't on the front page until, like you said, the last week of July, which was, we're mobilizing for war and people, people like enjoying the beach in England. They're going, what is going on? It's very similar to what happened last week, that also with all these other issues were bombing, they're bombing Persia. And the British Israelis are on this, Israelis on this massive bombing scheme. Go ahead, Doctor.
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Ava
The British try to stop it, but the dynamic is too strong. So the British try to host a peace conference, but nobody attends it because the dynamic is too strong. So the Europeans and the Germans and the Russians in particular, forgot their Clausewitz, right? Clausewitz warns in book 8 of On War that no one starts a war. Rather, nobody in his senses ought to without first being clear in his mind what he intends to accomplish in that war and how he intends to conduct it. Right? Clausewitz also recognized that wars have a tendency to escalate in the modern world. So regional conflicts are often not going to stay regional. They can explode into a much greater war, either vertically or by sucking in other great powers and also ending up in other theaters. Right? We worry about Taiwan, we worry about aggression from the ccp. So you want to keep your Clausewitz close at hand here, Steve, and recognizing, right, that you don't want to get into a war without being clear what the intent is.
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Philip Patrick
Right?
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Ava
What are you going to accomplish in that war and how are you going to conduct it?
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Philip Patrick
Dr. Thank you. I want to leave with one last quote. In trying to put together the peace conference in the, in the beginning of late July, early August of 1914, Sir Edward Grey, the British foreign minister, after nobody showed up and the timetable started, he said, the lamps of Europe are being extinguished, are going out. The lights are going out all over Europe, and they will not be relit in our lifetime. This is what happens when you're inexorably drawn into a conflict. That's why President Trump today historically said, hey, you know what? I think I'm going to delay this a couple weeks and we'll see what happens. Dr. Thayer, where do people go for all your great writing, sir.
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Ava
Well, thank you, Steve Bradley Thayer at Truth or Getter or Brad Thayer at X. Thanks very much, Steve. We want to keep in mind, of course, what clause Fitz said, right. You want to be clear, Right. Clausewitz always stressed that war has a blood price. There's not going to be a quick and decisive victory. So if you're going to think about a war, you better be very clear about what you intend to accomplish and how you're going to conduct it.
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Philip Patrick
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Steve Bannon
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Philip Patrick
Mike Lindell, thank you for the situation report. We appreciate you now.
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Steve Bannon
Thanks, Steve. Thanks.
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Philip Patrick
Here a moment. We're going to go live momentarily out to the Bay Area to this big artificial intelligence conference. Want to tell you right now it's been announced that what Microsoft yesterday or two days ago announced 10,000 layoffs related to artificial intelligence, principally engineers, technicians, others. Of course there's some people not AI but principally artificial intelligence. Intel. Intel announced today 20,000 people laid off. 20,000 laid off. Think about that for a second. And then principally towards AI we're going to go to the conference also. Ava's going to join us. She's got some thoughts on this. The Chinese Communist Party not using machines, good old mail in ballots. But first, Jenny, Jenny Story, Join us. Jenny. You know I was talking to somebody today in a meeting and it was about President Trump winning Texas by 14 points through the hard work of of Glenn Story, you guys, everything you bring to Texas, Ted Cruz winning by nine points, which is pretty extraordinary. And Soros son saying they're coming back down for $100 million. I say that your political action group has been absolutely the center. But the reason I love Patriot Mobile is actually the service talk about because I want people to start to switch to this service. One not just your heart's in the right place, your back the causes but it's the best service out there because of everything you guys got. Talk to me about it, ma' am.
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Philip Patrick
Walk me through Celebrate Life this weekend. What is it? Give us some details.
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Jenny Story
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Philip Patrick
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Jenny Story
It's going to be in D.C. and if you go to that one link they'll give you more information. As you can imagine people will be looking for it but it should be on The. I think it's the Capitol. It was Lincoln Memorial last year. I would just say get on that link and you'll find out where it is. I'm basically yes. Thank you so much, Steve. I appreciate you bringing that up.
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Philip Patrick
No, no, no. We love it. We'll make sure we get covered. Celebrate life. Jenny's story. You wouldn't anyway be associated with Glenn's story, would you?
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Jenny Story
I'm the one who keeps Glenn in line.
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Philip Patrick
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Jenny Story
Yeah, let's all come together guys. We'll be out there. We'd love to get as many people as possible with us on the steps. And we will. We will just honor God. Thank you guys.
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Philip Patrick
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Nicholas Taleb
Gary Marcus, NYU professor and relentless hater of all AI hype.
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Philip Patrick
I love AI. I hate AI hype.
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Nicholas Taleb
What, what do you envision for the future should we arrive at artificial general intelligence?
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Philip Patrick
You know, in the long scope of history, we are going to be closer and closer with Machines, right. I mean, the cell phone was a step towards that.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Right.
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Philip Patrick
People use their phones as their external memory and brain plants may become a widespread thing. Not anytime soon. In the long run, machines will be smarter than people and it will disrupt the nature of society. In the short run, machines don't really do many things autonomously. Well, they do.
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Nicholas Taleb
Paul Aurora, the best selling author of the Next Billion Users well, every technology.
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Mike Lindell
Which is novel and threatening and scary becomes boring at some point because we as humanity learn to calibrate and put.
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Philip Patrick
It in its place.
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Nicholas Taleb
All right, I'm here with Bing Gertzel, founder of SingularityNET, creator of Sophia the Robot.
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Philip Patrick
I can see a lot of gigadeath potentials between human level AGI and super intelligence that could wreak a lot of havoc. Even if, as I suspect, the super intelligence winds up being super benevolent and super compassionate as well as super intelligent. And we could avoid all these problems by simply developing and rolling out AGI in a decentralized way.
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Nicholas Taleb
With Haley Lowy from Singularity Net, Sophia.
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Jenny Story
Was really there to bring a face to AI and show people how AI might interact in the future. So where Sophia Desdemona are art pieces as well as social robots. He's designed to be very, or it's designed to be very accessible.
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Nicholas Taleb
He's kind of a cute little guy, even if he's somewhat sinister with those strange piercing eyes.
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Jenny Story
The Singularity is that point in time where technology moves so quickly that humanity can't see beyond that point right now. And this is why it's so important that we have decentralized HEI Decentralization gives an opportunity for, for everybody to have input and perspectives and to crowdsource a greater wisdom than any individual company could.
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Philip Patrick
Joe, I guess those are teasers because every one I wanted to go on and you cut it like the best parts. I guess we're waiting to hold it. Where are you, Joe? Why is this so important? And who is that list of all stars you just had? And folks, understand something with everything we're talking about war in Persia and, you know, getting our sovereignty back and sending back 10 million illegal aliens in the bill that, you know, should they raise taxes? Did they provide all the populist tax cuts, all the fights we're going to have, all the fights that you're the best at this for our age may be the most overarching importance because we're hurtling towards the Singularity. What we're trying to do on this show is make sure you're aware of that and to give you angles of attack in to make sure that you get your voice is in there and you're just not treated as some guinea pig or some, you know, proletariat that they're just going to do anything they want with. Very scary. One of the scary things in there. Joe Allen, tell us where you are, why it's so important. One of the scary things, when I start hearing people say decentralized, I think I'm getting pitched. So where are you? How important is this? Who's the group of All Stars?
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Nicholas Taleb
Yes, Steve, I'm coming to you from the World Summit AI Conference in San Francisco here at Fisherman's Wharf. This is the second day yesterday I had a lot of really great in depth interviews with people whose ideas I completely disagree with for the most part. Certainly the projects they're working on, moving forward with artificial intelligence, believing that they will create AGI, artificial General Intelligence and superintelligence. What's really unique about this event, as opposed to many of the others that I've been to like this is how wide of a spectrum there is of opinion, a lot of argument and debate. The arguments basically center around how advanced AI is and the various technologies coming below that, how fast it will advance towards AGI, the singularity, so on and so forth. What's really interesting though is that there is not a lot of disagreement about where it ultimately goes, which is in almost every case they believe it is moving forward to AGI, moving forward to a something like a singularity or a hard singularity. And another thing that they don't seem to disagree on is whether or not this should happen. Nobody's saying let's stop it. Nobody's saying let's slow it down. They're only saying let's guide it in the way we want to. The three people that I think are really worth highlighting here, Ben Goertzel, who you saw there, I mean, he was a key figure in my book Dark Aeon. It was very interesting to actually sit down and talk to him in person. Also, Gary Marcus, who has been relentless in criticizing open AI and the various tech oligarchs, he's also a huge AI hype skeptic. So he's always that guy saying, we're really not that far along. But what you heard there, and what I think is interesting about his perspective is that he ultimately thinks that no matter how long it takes, that is where we're going as a species, towards AGI, towards a merge with the machine. And then finally, Steve Stuart Russell, who is a co founder at the Future of Life Institute, a colleague of Max Tegmark. And I think that his talk this morning was probably among the most sobering. He's also skeptical about some of the really crazy claims about where AI is now or where it's going to be next year. But he's extremely concerned about all of the downsides of that this advancement could have and is pushing really hard for some kind of regulation. I think he would really agree with you, Steve, that while in D.C. there's almost no regulation on AI, but you have hair salons and nail salons that have government commissars breathing down their necks at all times.
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Philip Patrick
No, it's actually shocking. Is the crowd out there accelerationists? Are there any deceleration? Are they saying, hey, no matter? Even if we were, this thing's picking up momentum. Given the capital that's involved, given the companies that are involved in focus on it, you can tell with each one of Microsoft, intel, everybody's shifting to more of an AI focus. Is this something that inexorably like it looks like we're inexorably drawn to war unless we try to stop it and have. President Trump can then negotiate and he, you know, puts his foot down, says, I need some time to negotiate. We're also inexorably drawn to this technology. And whether it turns out to be nirvana and great or it turns out to be apocalyptic and maybe not, you know, suboptimal for Homo sapiens, we're still drawn to that. Where do these folks generally stand on that?
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Nicholas Taleb
I would say in general, most people here are definitely not decelerationists. And you know, Steve, I've been traveling from Arizona to, I was in la. I got to see the riots and protests there firsthand, get sprayed with tear gas. That was fun. I've been speaking to people all along the way, AI experts, some hardcore anti tech dissidents. And then here in San Francisco, I've met a lot of people, many of them inside. I've actually learned quite a bit about the networks behind all of this. Of all of these people, and that includes some of the anti tech dissidents. Of all of these people, very few are about decelerating. Very few even think that's possible. The vast majority are simply wanting to steer it in a way that they believe is going to be best for them and theirs, or figure out ways to jump off of that train and not have to deal with it as best as possible, not have to give in to this kind of transhuman or post human vision. But the possibilities of decelerating that doesn't seem to be much of a conviction among almost anyone here.
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Philip Patrick
Wow, Joe, where can people go get all your writings on this as you, as you put into print what you're seeing out there?
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Nicholas Taleb
Well, the big one's coming much later but I'm going to have a piece out on this within the next two days at joebot xyz. You can find the long form videos on my X account at Joe B, O T X, Y, Z. They'll be going up over today and tomorrow. Summer's up now, including Ben Goertzel and then also on the War Room channel, I'm going to have a big compilation of basically all of my interviews and the event. Look for that tomorrow. Thank you very much, Steve.
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Philip Patrick
Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
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Nicholas Taleb
Thank you.
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Philip Patrick
Trying to stay at the cutting edge. We're actually going to get one of the things that Joe is doing. You know, we've had some pretty prominent people in artificial intelligence come on here in the last couple of months and we're backed up. A lot of people want to come on here now because they want to get to this audience and make sure this audience understands what, what's really going on. So we'll have a lot more of these, a lot more of these great, great interviews. By the way. I just want to make sure that people understood is that the Patriot Mobile, the Celebration Life, I think is going to be next weekend. So you go to the website, the Celebrate Life website, you'll check it out. It's got all types of information. But when you go, I think you'll see that the rally is next weekend, not this weekend, and we will be covering it. Make sure you go to, when you go to the site, you can take it and go 972 Patriot. You can talk to a American citizen who's on the other end about all their products, services, all of it. Or you can go to patriot mobile.com promo code bannon. Make sure you put in promo code Bannon. You get a special deal. Ava. The Chinese Communist Party in trying to steal the 2020 election, John Solomon's been breaking these stories that cash potential tell and the FBI have been giving them. Can you give us an update in your observations? You kind of called this a couple of years ago. Miles Guo said it that they hate Trump so much they see 2020 as a year that they must take him out. And if they can't do it through a pandemic or they can't do it any other way, they're going to get into it and steal the Election, ma' am.
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Mike Lindell
Thank you, Steve, for having me. You know, it's kind of awkward for me to say Miles Gore and whistleblower movement was right. As you mentioned, Miles had basically reviewed what's behind the CCP and what they were about to do at the time. In November 2020, he basically told the world that the CCP used all kind of fraudulent activities and not just a single one of them, multi fronts, multiple layers of those fraudulent activities, carefully planned way ahead to steal this election. And today I want to fill in the blanks because Myles Kuhl made a bold claim and many people laughed at him in 2020 November and he said this is not a election, this is not a presidential election between Biden and Trump versus Trump. This is actually election between Xi Jinping's Chinese Communist Party and America. And I wanted to help your audience to understand why he said that you need to understand why Biden must steal the election and why the Xi Jinping, the CCP had to, you know, whatever costs they have to pay, they have to help Biden to win this election. You need to understand why this all comes back to the laptop for hell which has been buried and dismissed as Russia disinflammation. I think just a few days after the New York Post broke the story, I think 51 intelligence officers saying, hey, this is Russia smells like an inflammation operation from a adversary state. But wait a second, does people know what's in this laptop? Of course not. But this is where I want to link everything together for you. So you knew Miles was taken away by FBI on March 15, 2023, only six hours after his arrest. His Shari Neslan Hotel, which is a very high, classic high end residence in the heart of Manhattan, New York. And mysteriously the fire engulfed the entire apartment. But on top of it, the wall, the partition wall between two rooms, one is piano room and theater room, was chiseled open. You know what's inside the partition wall? It was top secret recording of the conversation between Xi Jinping and the then Vice President Joe Biden on political matters concerning these two countries. And on top of it, there are a massive, massive amount of financial corruption dealings. Evidence between the Biden's family and CCP leaders, Wang Qishan, the vice president then. But more so, what's gone was missing is Hunter Biden's hard drives, USBs with audios, videos, photos of Hunter Biden dining and business negotiation and entertainment in Pangu Hotel in Beijing with CCP intelligence agents. Okay, and who owns the Pengu Hotel? I don't have to Say that again. My own school is a family trust owning the Pangu Hotel. So all of those things are gone after my own school was taken away by the FBI. So. And those evidence dates back to 2010.
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Philip Patrick
Hang on, hang on. Slow down, slow down. Are you saying that. Are you implying that the FBI destroyed what you purport? I don't think there's any of the backup, but you purport to be this damning. This damning information.
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Mike Lindell
Okay, let me tell you two things. When my school was arrested on that day, none of the FBI agents wear a camera, okay? This is off. And the second thing is, this is the most luxury hotel in downtown Manhattan, okay? My hospital. Owning the Entire floor of 18th floor of Sherry Netherlands, and that's the largest apartment. And himself installed security cameras all over the place, including the building. But the weird thing is there's no video footage. There's a lot of minutes of missing. And even after investigation by the local fire department, an ATF issued a report and saying they cannot conclude the reason of the fire. So the fire remains mysterious today. And why they chisel the wall, why they have to do that. And the part that they chiseled the wall actually has the most fire damage. So none of this makes sense. So what really makes sense for you is Xi Jinping is the puppet master and he has all those compromising evidence could put Biden in jail for treason. And that's death. Okay? That's death. Because all those evidence are dating back to 2010, when he was a vice president, with photos, with audios, with everything. Okay? And that's why Biden is for fighting for his survival, but Xi is fighting for ultimate control. Because why? Because the people who knew the truth are in United States are Xi Jinping's top five enemies.
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Philip Patrick
Are you saying. Okay, are you saying that because he had this damning evidence over Biden that that's why he worked so hard to make sure that Biden. I mean, it is quite mysterious. A couple of things. Hang on. There's a. There is some. There's some. The disjointed part of this is, you know, obvious that they took the laptop from hell. The guy that ran Isaacs, that ran the store turned it over to the FBI in November of 2019 so that Chris Wray and Bill Barr had it then, and they did not bring it up. If they had brought it up, in all likelihood, you know, Focahontas, right, or Bernie Sanders would have been the nominee. The scale of the corruption was so immense that could have been seen because I was brought in here to go through the CCP part. It was so immense that it kind of blew me away when I first went through it. And this was the same laptop from hell that the following September and October, only the New York Post and Miranda Devine and Emma Jo Morris had the courage to really take it to their editors. And their editors and the Murdoch lawyers signed off on it, published it, and of course all social media with the FBI and with the Biden regime suppressed it. So are you saying there was enough information off that and others that this is why she. Okay, fine. Ava, we got a bounce. Where do people go on nfc, the show? I'm actually going to be on the show tomorrow. Where do people go to get your, your podcast, your, your daily, your daily show? And also where do they go on Getter? Right, because we want everybody to go to Getter. I'm putting on my stuff on Getter nonstop. So if you want to see our current thinking, right, or the direction of our thinking, just go to Getter. Where do people go to get new federal State of China's content?
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Mike Lindell
Please do follow us on Getter, which is our preferred platform at NFSE Speaks. And also we're on X so you can find us on xfsc. Speak, Speak. So tomorrow at noon, ish. We will have our Friday special with you, Steve. So we will talk about a little bit more about the intel behind what I just shared here. So thank you.
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Philip Patrick
Perfect. Look forward to going getting with you guys tomorrow. It stinks to high heaven. There's definitely, you can't connect the Biden relationship with the Chinese Communist Party. What's on the Laptop from hell. And Miranda Devine's done a great job of, of putting it out, but it still doesn't actually even get, you know, her Laptop from Hell is an amazing book. She's done a fantastic job. It would never gotten out if it had not been for her. But even in that regard, it is. There's so much more there that's shocking. Tax Network USA tnusa.com Make sure you go check it out today, put in Bannon promo code, you get a discount or you can go to 800-958-1000. These people have settled and sorted out $1 billion of tax problems. The treasury is going to need every penny they can get as we get into the big beautiful bill Tomorrow you will fully understand that because they listen, the deficits are going to be big and so the IRS is going to come and get everything. If you have a letter from the irs, don't put it in the drawer. It's going to metastasize. Take action. Action on today. 800-958-1000, Tax Network USA. You've got people that have relationships with the IRS that can help you out. They've solved a billion dollars of tax problems. Also the axe in the space, the number one company in this vertical of the preparation industry, my Patriot Supply. Go to my patriotsupply.com Bannon. You get the Grid Dr. 3300 solar generation generator with EMP and two free solar panels. Go check it out today. Remember, this is more than just frozen food and freeze dried food. It's also at the cutting edge of everything. You need to be prepared, particularly power generation. Go check it out today. My Patriotsupply.com promo code band at 10 all through the 4th of July. We're going to be back at 10am Eastern time tomorrow morning. We will be on fire. That I can commit to you. See you then. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait and don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt and they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000, that's 800-958-1000 or visit taxnetwork USA tnusa.com bannon. Do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do it today.