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WarRoom Battleground EP 794: Future Shock: Massive Data Breach, OpenAI Surveillance, and the Quantum Apocalypse
WarRoom Battleground EP 794: Future Shock: Massive Data Breach, OpenAI Surveillance, and the Quantum Apocalypse...
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Steve Bannon
Look who's back. Steve Bannon, seen at the White House on the very same day that President Trump announced the two week timeline on Iran. Does Bannon have the President's ear?
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Brian Kennedy
Is longtime Trump advisor, Steve Bannon.
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Steve Bannon
Wouldn't you know it? This morning, Steve Bannon was spotted entering the White House.
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Brian Kennedy
There he is.
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Steve Bannon
A senior White House official said that.
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Brian Kennedy
Bannon and Trump had lunch together. A meeting that was supposed to take place weeks ago, but was rescheduled, scheduled, and maybe that's true.
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Steve Bannon
Who knows? And also consider this. Just before that announcement from the press.
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Brian Kennedy
Secretary, Caroline Levitt, this afternoon, that two week timeline, the President's former adviser, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Bannon, was spotted by CNN entering the West Wing.
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Brian Kennedy
Sources told me he had lunched with the President. MAGA firebrand and Trump's former strategist, Steve Bannon, was spotted at the White House. Interesting that in the dark shadows of the White House, another figure seems to have appeared, and that is one Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon has, as White House officials say, that Trump and Bannon had lunch today. The lunch was scheduled for weeks, but nonetheless, they have the lunch.
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Steve Bannon
We got a visual. Where the hell is he, people? Okay, there he is. Here he goes. Tell Grab Team A. Go. He's still talking with somebody. He's getting instructions. Jimmy, get me the conversation. Lock the box. Moving. Grab Team C, get me a feed in there. I want Grab Team C in there. Tell me what's going on. Jesus Christ. That's Steve Bannon. Why would it come back now? This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Brian Kennedy
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Joe Allen
War room.
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Brian Kennedy
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
It's Friday the 20th of June. Year of lore, 2025. Was that the. Was that the government? Hang on. Stop. That's a security camera tape. How did Morning Joe get that? You can't do a FOIA request overnight, literally. How did they get the security camera? What's most important, I think it's the first time my producer's ever been on camera. His mother called me today, quite upset. May make him go home, go back to where he comes from. That's amazing. Thanks for putting that together. Yeah, complete meltdown. I love it. The dark shadows, the dark specter. I'm going to get to Ray Dalio here in a moment. Ray Dalio told you in the last hour, look, whether you like him or not, whether you think he's worked with the Chinese Communist Party or not, how he made his money or not, he runs the biggest hedge fund in the country and where hedge funds are a major part of the financial industry. He's written a couple books. His last one, How Countries Go Broke, is pretty impressive. Why? Because he's preaching the gospel of the war room. What you've been taught here over the last four years and when a guy like Ray Daly decides to put that in the book, it means that people think it's important. So we think it's important for you to understand it. The big takeaway in the first clip was that, hey, you got this gap, 7 trillion spend, 5 trillion revenue. Unless you either cut, grow, unless you either grow faster, cut or raise taxes, you're not going to finance it. What he's going to say the 3% solution is get to, it's kind of Scott Bessance, you know, the 333, but particularly get to 3% of deficits to GDP. Right now it's about 7. That's not sustainable, 3%. You're not at a balanced budget, it's not great, but you can live with means. You're still going to have massive deficits going forward. And yes, you're going to mount up this debt, which we don't like. But that's just, I think the financial structure of the economy and the country right now and where we are in politics, I think that's just going to be reality. We're going to break down the big beautiful bill, which by the way, polls terribly. One of the reasons I said you can't call it a big beautiful bill forever because it confuses people and they think it's all about spending, which is not. So we'll get more into that. That's why you have to prepare people. This is why we say on this situation in Persia, nobody's prepared for it because they don't fully understand it. They certainly don't understand the military aspects of it and why it's so essential now, now, now to go take out the nuclear weapon. We've asked Brian Kennedy Come on. Brian's one of the smartest guys I know and kind of revered by the audience for being a safe pair of hands. We had a fire breather on this morning. Brian Kennedy, one of the smartest guys around, very well connected to the intel community. Alex Jones and Alice kind of dropped, for the people that don't pay attention this closely, kind of dropped a bombshell that Iran already has a nuclear weapon. I like your observer. And if that's the case, why are we making such a big deal about Ford? Or if they already got a nuke and they have any means at all to deliver it right, why are we making such a big deal about the remaining part of their nuclear bomb making capability, Sir?
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Brian Kennedy
Well, thank you, Steve. Yeah, no, it was a bombshell that Alex would say it on the show. I wrote as much in a piece for the American Mind on Wednesday. I've been part of the the missile defense community for some time, and we've worried for over 20 years that the Iranians had either acquired nuclear weapons from Pakistan or from North Korea or had built them themselves. Now, they've been working with the North Koreans and the Russians and the Chinese for almost 40 years on both nuclear technology, nuclear missile technology, warhead design and what have you. The Russians obviously have nuclear weapons, the Chinese do. Then the North Koreans, with the help of Russia and China, have also developed them, as we well know. But the Iranians were working with the North Koreans the whole time. Almost every single missile that the Iranians use is a North Korean design. The idea that the Iranians couldn't have acquired from North Korea either bought or been given them by North Korea seems illogical given the strategic relationship that both Russia and China have with Iran, they use Iran as a surrogate. And so the idea that they couldn't have been given nuclear weapons seems a bit far fetched. And also the Iranian scientists are first class. They may not have all the facilities that other nations do, but the idea that they couldn't have enriched uranium to the point where they could use it in a warhead also seems far fetched. One of the things we pointed out for a long time has been that in the 2000s, the Iranians tested in the Caspian Sea the ability to launch a ballistic missile from a ship in the Caspian Sea. They launched it and they exploded in this simulation, a dummy warhead in the high atmosphere to simulate an electromagnetic pulse attack. Now, you wouldn't use that in the Middle east against Israel, but you would use it against the United States. And in the scenarios that have been developed. The idea could be that Iran would have a freighter ship off either coast of the United States and There are almost 50,000 freighter ships on the water at any given time. You launched the ballistic missile in the high atmosphere, exploded over the United States and destroy our electric grid, which would kill millions and millions of people. That's not fear mongering, that's just sort of the strategic design of how you would use an EMP weapon. But in that scenario, as I describe in this essay, that ship is sunk and you don't know exactly who to retaliate to. We wouldn't know if the North Koreans did it, the Iranians, the Chinese, with the Russians, but we would know we had been attacked. If you're Communist China and we're on the verge of real hostility with communist China, when it comes to Taiwan, you're going to use a surrogate like Iran against the United States. That scenario seems far more likely to me because in that scenario, we're not going to launch a full scale nuclear attack on Iran. If Iran has nuclear weapons today, from our point of view, you know, we have our own considerations, we can build a missile defense to stop them. Today, President Trump should be deploying air and naval assets on both of our coasts to make sure we're defended from a ship launched ballistic missile attack. That's well within our ability to do. President Trump with his golden dome, wants to build missile defenses for this country. So that's, that scenario is entirely taken out. If you're Israel, on the other hand, you have a different calculation. Your calculation is that Iran, in a kind of messianic way or millionaires kind of way, decides to create a worldwide apocalypse and don't care themselves that they're destroyed. And so if they have the nuclear weapons, no Israeli Prime Minister could admit publicly that they have the nuclear weapons. President Trump has said they cannot have nuclear weapons. If we absolutely acknowledge they have nuclear weapons. The logic for that would be President Trump would have to go to war immediately. President Trump, in a commonsensical way, is trying to find a different path here. He is trying to find some negotiated settlement, right? Winston Churchill said better to jaw jaw than to war war. President Trump, in that commonsensical way, is trying to figure out whether there's a peaceful settlement to this because war could escalate rapidly and we don't know when it escalates.
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Steve Bannon
So let me understand this, Let me understand it. You're telling me that U.S. intelligence, cuz you clearly got this from U.S. intelligence, some sources. U.S. intelligence is saying that the, the Iranians already have a nuclear weapon and have the ability to deliver it to the, to actually hit either through an air burst or some other methodology, the United States or a continental United States.
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Brian Kennedy
We had that knowledge in the 2000s that they had the ability to do that.
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Steve Bannon
And no, that was.
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Brian Kennedy
That part of it was not controversial.
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Steve Bannon
The question was whether they have the warhead and. No. And what do you mean they had the nuclear capability but they don't have the warhead to actually. And then they don't really have a weapon. Correct.
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Brian Kennedy
No, no. It was believed they had the nuclear. It was believed they had a ballistic missile and could launch it from a freighter ship.
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Steve Bannon
Right.
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Brian Kennedy
The only question is whether in those intervening 20 years they have a warhead that they could use to actually do that. And as I'm arguing or suggesting, and Alex Jones said on the show this morning, they already have that nuclear weapon now. And the reason people think they have one is it's been a long time for them working on.
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Steve Bannon
Right. And you're saying and by that have this warhead. Correct.
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Brian Kennedy
Right.
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Steve Bannon
Why are they not using that then to back off the Israelis? The key to these guys getting the guys that had nuclear weapons, like the Pakistanis don't get overthrown the people or the Israelis, because the Israelis have what, 221 nuclear weapons. The people that don't have them, like Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein get overthrown. I mean, this is why the Russia is to get to a nuclear weapon. We get a nuclear weapon that can keep everybody at bay. Is not that not the strategic logic here?
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Brian Kennedy
Well, that would be one strategic logic. It may be the wrong logic. The Iranians may think that the Chinese or the Russians are backing their play and that the Israelis won't use nuclear weapons or that there won't be a nuclear exchange because the Americans will step in or the Chinese or the Russians will step in. The Israelis have been pretty restrained over the last how many decades, knowing that this was a possibility. My own judgment is that they looked at President Trump and thought, we're never going to get a better president to do this. Our calculation if we're the Israelis is Iran is an unstable regime that may use these to destroy us. Therefore, we're going to act now. We'll have President Trump in office. He's as solid as you're going to get, and we'll have three years with him to reconstitute the Middle east politically. He'll have. The Israelis are going to calculate they have supportive Saudis.
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Steve Bannon
That's also. That's all fine. From their calculation, I understand that. But here's the thing. Last Thursday, why did they have to go on a sneak attack last Thursday when President Trump had and it stated that he was looking for a diplomatic solution and had scheduled in Muscat, Oman the six sessions that he had with Witkoff and others. Now, maybe they weren't making the progress. Maybe they came back and said, we don't like the deal. We're only going to have verification. We're not going to let you take apart could have been all kinds of things in the diplomacy and we know that a lot of that's true. But what was the rush to go last a week ago today was their big triumph beating their chest? Shock and awe. What caused them to go then, and particularly what caused them, what sticks in people's craw is why they did this understanding, which they've been very open about. They couldn't finish the deal they would actually need. They would get here and get hung out to dry taking incoming on their civilians and not and by the way, run out of air missiles and have to come back to the United States as a supplicant and ask for more on credit because they're not paying cash money on the barrelhead. Our special relationship is we just give them what they want. It's going to cost like $14 billion I think the calculation is. But even worse, they need us for the coup de grace. How can anybody justify that? My issue is not do they have a nuclear weapon? Not all this. It's all interesting. It doesn't get to the heart of it. Benjamin Netanyahu, for his own personal political dilemma created this sense of urgency that doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. Created it and did the salesman's upsell. We have to have regime change. And Fox News is boom, boom, boom. This Iraq war all over again. It's so phony and so obvious. Brian Kennedy, am I wrong in this? And I said, by the way, I fully support the Israelis taking if they want to do regime change, go for it, I don't care. That's their call. It's Israel first. And particularly if they want to take out the nuclear threat, which is so awful, they should finish what they started. We didn't start it. They started it. They should finish it. What is wrong with my logic?
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Brian Kennedy
Sir, I agree with you. I agree with you 1,000%, Steve. They should finish what they started. It wasn't our job. Our strategy has to begin first and foremost with what is good for the United States. It's their get out for what is good for Israel? They started it, they need to finish it. They must have calculated they had the capability to both start it and finish it. If they didn't, that's just foolish on their part. From our point of view, we're not prepared for war with Iran in the Middle east the way I've just described in that scenario. And so they didn't consult us. This was not our idea to do this. And the President, in negotiating for peace, was doing the right thing. And I agree with you about that, Rush. It is now up to Israel to finish this. It's their job. If they want to change the regime in Iran, I think that would be a very good thing. But it's not the job of the United States to do that. It's the job of the Israelis. But even better, it's the job of the Iranians to do that. If you have a regime in Tehran that is constituted by Israel, you'll have another, you know, decades and decades of war, because it's not.
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Steve Bannon
It's.
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Brian Kennedy
Iran is not Israel the same way Israel is not the United States. It will be up to the Iranian people to make a country for themselves. It doesn't have to be a democracy. It could be a military dictatorship. But the main purpose from our point of view is that it's not hostile to the United States or has war designs against the United States. It's not our job to fix every country on earth. We have one job, and that's to fix the United States. We have to make sure that we have the military to deter any enemy who would seek our destruction or, and, or the military equipment, such as missile defense, to make sure that's a reality. That's not the piece here that was in place under proper design of a military campaign like this. We should have been far more prepared than we are today. We don't know if this is going to work, this attack on, which is why, again, this should be up to Israel. Let Israel do this. And if Israel wants to change the regime in Iran, good luck. That won't be that easy to do, but I believe it could be done. It would be good for the world if it were done, but it's not our job to do that. And the President, I think, has been commonsensical in his approach to this, and I expect he will be in the future.
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Steve Bannon
No, he's, as you know, he's a. And you've advised me before, he's a very commonsensical guy and think everything through. I want to go back something you said that was quite important about regime change, as you know. I'm proud to be with you and Frank Gaffney and some others, the co founder of the Committee on the Present Danger China, which is now, I don't know, seven or eight years we've been around doing this. One of the things I think we did the best, and it was Miles Guo that helped me think this through, was to make sure we don't refer to China or the Chinese people, but the Chinese Communist Party and always do that. And I think that nomenclature has done a lot lot in the last seven or eight years. And as you know, we kind of lead. I'm fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party because we are don't believe it's a legitimate government of the Chinese people and we are 100% for regime change in Beijing. So I'm not an anti regime change guy. However, Frank, as you and I have talked so many times and we've talked to so many of our Chinese colleagues and Chinese national colleagues and expatriates and people that are anti ccp. If the United States, the United States kind of the State Department put him in power in 49, the Bush apparatus kind of kept him in power for Tiananmen when they had these kind of popular revolts. You can't do a top down. If the United States military or even, you know, if somehow the United States was to take them out of power, it wouldn't work. Lao Baijing has to rise up at some point in time with assistance from the west, no doubt, or from people to back their cause. They have to overthrow it. That's why I've been so big on economic warfare. In the case of the Persians, particularly oil, the one and a half to two and a half million barrels a day that goes from Persia to China and is a big part of the cash flow coming into the mullahs that if you really start putting tough economic sanctions like we put economic sanctions after we got jcpoa. President Trump, you had the, really the first big uprising in 22 of those. Remember, you had millions of kids in the street for like two or three weeks. That's where you see an uprising. I want to go back to Iraq because one of the it wasn't the Jewish insider, but one that maybe it was the Jewish news service. One of the things I read all the time from Israel kind of said, oh, these guys comparing Iraq to Iran is anti Semitic. It has nothing about that. What we're doing is now people are talking about the Shah's grandson and the Shah's Son and the peacock throne and this committee, they've got some sort of council of expatriate Persians that, you know, people should do due diligence on. This goes back to the Iraqi National Congress. You remember that when Chalabe and these guys were presented to the American people in the year and a half run up part that was presented to the as a psyop was Chalabe. And all these guys were going to step in and they were Jeffersonian democracies and they were going to be welcomed by the people in Baghdad because people were waiting for democracy. And it turned out after the march up country, which took us, I don't know, a couple of weeks, we turned around with, hey, we have to have somebody here to kind of help. When the Iraqi National Congress and Chalabi and those guys stepped over there, they were lost to history. They never had. You never heard about them again. Because the people there go, who are you guys? You guys have been hanging out in Washington, living large. You're not part of us. Isn't that the point that when you do this regime change, if you just do it from the top, it's just going to be utter and total chaos as those horrible, horrible, horrible years of what 2004 and five and six and seven. Right. And eight were as we were trying to hold down Baghdad? Sir.
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Brian Kennedy
Well, that's the least serious part of this whole thing, isn't it? This idea that there are these people in the wings who can come in and do this. The way wars end like this is that presumably at one point some Iranian general is going to be looked to to see whether he can control the country militarily, that he could secure their weapons, whatever they may be, and decides to depose the mullahs and make sure that Iran could realistically sign some sort of peace agreement with Israel or the United States or the west more broadly, and then constitute some kind of country that could ensure the stability of Iran. This is not about the democracy project. This is not about, you know, restoring the Shah to power. This will be about Iran trying to figure out whether or not they can have a stable country that could govern themselves and not be a threat to those around them. Because presumably if this gets to a more heightened state of warfare, then, you know, things will escalate to the point where if there is regime change, that person will have to demonstrate he actually controls the country. If not, it will denigrate into some kind of chaos or civil war. I actually think just given the Iranian regime and the power of the generals, right now, you could find a general to do that, but again, we're not very good as Americans in figuring this stuff out. It'll be the job of Iran to figure out what their future looks like. They either want to have the mullahs and live that way, or they'll have some general try to form a government somehow that will provide peace and stability there. But that's a long way off and not that easy to pull off.
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Steve Bannon
Well, it wouldn't have been a long way off if President Trump had not put his foot down. People should know. If he had not put his foot down on Wednesday, Bibi Netanyahu's government were pushing and pushing hard for a regime change. I would say regime destruction, destroy it and figure out if there's a general that picks up, it steps up. But the Israeli government, the government Israel is pushing very hard. It was an upsell, create a sense of urgency and then upsell you. And thank God President Trump, in that kind of basic common sense that he has, it's so powerful, was able to see through it and, you know, said, and it's been said many times he's not participating in regime change. What he's looking at at max is the military strike and could it work if his negotiation fails right the next couple weeks, if he thinks he's being tapped along or dismissed. And today in Geneva, you know, the delegates from Iran with the Europeans said it has to be a ceasefire. You can't let the Israelis pound us or we're not going to talk. I don't know if President Trump's going to buy that. He's going to say, hey, either sit down and talk or we have the potential of getting involved. So I think this thing gets more and more serious and about the generals. Remember Napoleon was called back from the campaign in Egypt. And when we returned, the Central Committee had called him back that was overseeing the revolution, as you remember, Brian. And when he got back, his famous quote is, I saw the crown of France in the gutter and I just put my sword out and picked it up. He saw the opportunity. He was the general that gave him a whiff of grapeshot and calmed the mob down and then took over revolutionary France and built it into a military dictatorship and an empire. Brian Kennedy, you're a good man, you're a smart man, and you're a wise man. Where do people go to get your content, Sir?
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Brian Kennedy
Thank you, Steve. On getter, I'm Brian T. Kennedy. And on X, I'm Brian T. Kennedy. 1 and presentdangerchina.org where you were one of the founders of the committee. We have a wealth of knowledge that I and Frank Gaffney and others have put together with your help. Thank you.
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Steve Bannon
Tremendous, tremendous thing today on Iran because it is, it's no doubt the CCP's black hand is in back of all this. 100%. They and the Russians, KGB's licking their chops on this thing. I think Putin said today they may get involved. Remember we talked about the guns of August, of how the mobilization timetables inexorably drew Europe into a war where they said, sir Edward Grey, the foreign Minister said the lamps of Europe are what are being shut down and they will not be lit again in our lifetime. Because he could see what was going to happen on then the Western front. We saw what happened in Ukraine. We called that, did we not with you, the audience. We're being sucked into the kinetic part of the third World War. Not here in the United States. We're trying to clean up the sanctuary cities and get out the 10 million invaders. But once again in Centcom's Middle East. Short Commercial break Artificial Intelligence on the other side this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro the block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The real reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N O N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers led Birch Gold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989898 do it today. That's the Rio reset text Bannon at 989898 and do it today. There's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening their grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot Supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get a free 4,24 7 food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Okay? Full stop. You're going to have to insert this. Okay. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're going to get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It shipped fast and it shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist Party does. You can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop my patriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, Money GPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go torickards war room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.
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Joe Allen
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, the reality is we're going to get to the Ray Dalio tomorrow. But we'll leave you with the first part of it which was we did in the first hour. Ray Dalio, one of the smartest guys said, hey look, because of this ongoing problem and the ability that they're going to have to sell a ton of bonds as their debt increases. That would be us that central banks throughout the world to kind of hedge against their exposure to the dollar are buying gold at record rates. This is why we have this entire thing about the Rio reset. It's not that we want Philip Patrick and guys to go down to Rio and have a great time in party or if Eric Bolling goes with them. This is a very important part. The BRICS is really an organization uniting the global south. And hey, they got the resources and they got attitude and a lot of them got a burning hatred for the United States of America. So that's why I go to Birch Gold now. Promo code Bannon Enter the dollar empire lays it all out. Maybe I'll give a grace. Maybe we do something on Rumble or get her this week or a combination where maybe I get up there and kind of explain. Maybe I go through each one chapter by chapter. But go get and talk to Philip Patrick and theme because they're absolutely spectacular. Also you heard Ray dalio say there's 232 $230,000 per household in America as essentially a second mortgage. That's the, that's the weight of this national debt upon you and it's increasing all the time. Now we're going to have to get to the ramparts next week. We're going to do a lot of calls, a lot of reaching out to councilman because they're going to be negotiating the big beautiful bill which I hope to change the name of to get a little more marketing, push them back at this because it's not polling. The name's not polling well to do that. We want to make sure you're not, you're not sunk down not just by a second mortgage the US government's taken out of you, but a second mortgage that would be taken out by somebody got into your title home title lock, the $1 million triple lock protection. This is kind of a bulletproof program, 24 hour coverage. If anything happens to your anybody's messing around with your title, you learn about it immediately. And if all else fails, a one million dollar restoration program including lawyers and all of it just go to hometitlelock.com promo code Steve. We keep it simple and talk to Natalie Dominguez. They really got an excellent education team over there. Get you smart on everything about what a title is, what title insurance is, all of it. Home title lock. Actually not title insurance. Title insurance is actually different. Right? That's different. Lock your lock your lock that piece of paper up. Make sure no rogue accountant, AI, cyber, anything could get to it. Want to get to one of my favorite people? He's on the road. He's out there. He's been out there with the bigwigs in Silicon Valley in the Bay Area. You've got two great cold opens. Let's go ahead, play the first. Joe Allen's with us, and then Joe Allen will explain it all to us.
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Joe Allen
Gary Marcus will. You have always been willing to criticize Sam Altman not only for what he's doing, but perhaps even implying that there's ill intent.
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Steve Bannon
I mean, I think OpenAI is probably going to head towards surveillance. You can imagine two business models for Open Air. One would be if they could actually build AGI soon. Maybe they can make a lot of money with that. Real AGI would be worth trillions of dollars. But the things that they've actually delivered don't work that reliably. And that has limited their commercial utility. They have a lot of private data. People treat it as a therapist and they now want to build apparently like a necklace or something. They record you 24 7. Like that's like 1984 independent. I mean, you can't be a libertarian and want some party to be collecting all of that data on anything that anybody does.
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Joe Allen
So I'm here with the CEO of Global Quantum Intelligence, Andre Koenig. Is China really keeping up with the US or Western countries in the advancement of quantum computing? No.
- [35:51]
Steve Bannon
China is 10 to 15x ahead of us on every meaningful metric.
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Joe Allen
If it were to go in the catastrophic directions, what are some of the specific problems that would arise from rapid and uncontrolled breakthroughs?
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Steve Bannon
So of course, quantum computing can help with new materials, new chemistry, which has weapon application both in a defensive and offensive posture. But it is really about factorization and breaking most of our known encryption. And this is something that would happen at a flip of a switch. And it's ultimate terminal, you're breaking into J.P. morgan and Citibank, you're breaking into the Fed, you're breaking into our telecom.
- [36:33]
Joe Allen
System, you might be breaking into our nuclear codes. Right.
- [36:36]
Steve Bannon
And Scott Schaefer's joining us from Blade Technologies to To discuss.
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Brian Kennedy
Well, let's begin with the data breach. 16 billion. 16 exposed login credentials, Google, Apple, Facebook, just to name all of them.
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Steve Bannon
And 16 billion what? 8 billion people in the world. 16 billion credentials. And one thing, the scariest thing of all, a lot of times we get these breaches. It's like it's all old stuff, just repackaged. This looks to be all new stuff and fairly recent stuff. So what does everybody have to do right now that's watching, or at least this weekend, change every password you have on every device you own. It's important, and it has to be unique on every device you own. Hold it. There's only like, 10 bombshells. See, this is a Joe Allen thing. Jon goes out there and they think he's some corn, you know, some. Some cracker from backwoods Tennessee, right, Sergeant York. And he gets up there and he slips out there with his methodology, and he gets the most explosive content I've ever heard. I don't want to go the CCP one. I got to finish with the end one. What in the hell happened? And what should our audience know about this, brother?
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Joe Allen
So, Steve, Cyber News just broke a story, actually, two weeks ago, but they've been updating it consistently. Sixteen billion usernames and passwords discovered in dark web databases that were enabled, that were available to anyone, any bad actor that would want to get their hands on it. Those included logins and passwords for Facebook, for Google, for Apple, even things like Telegram. Now, these sorts of revelations are happening all the time. In fact, about two weeks ago, it was revealed that China had a massive data breach, quite similar with WeChat and Alibaba and their big companies over there. What's significant about it, aside from the scale of it? If you heard what Gary Marcus was saying there about OpenAI gathering up personal data, including putting out their new wearable pendant that would basically monitor you 247 if you allowed it to. To pick up your personal data and then customize their AI to you.
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Steve Bannon
Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. The last time I saw a pendant like that was like in Rosemary's Baby, right? When they made her, the witch coven said, hey, we got some. Made her wear the pendant, and next thing you know, you know, she's having Satan's baby. Poor Mia Farrow. Walk me back. What do you mean, pendant? What is he talking. Explain to our audience, because I think many of our audience, particularly the boomers, are like me. A lot of this is quite foreign. What do you mean that a has come up with a pendant that you can wear 24 7. What in the hell does that mean?
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Joe Allen
Well, believe it or not, this model is actually quite common. Other companies have already put them out, but this one is important because it's in development right now with OpenAI and the idea behind it and all of these devices. It could also be a smartwatch, it could also be a little Alexa type of device. It could be interconnected with all of them. The idea is that OpenAI wants to create an AI interface that knows everything about you. And this isn't some secret that is being held behind closed doors and people have leaked. This is Sam Altman saying The purpose of ChatGPT should be a companion or a kind of guardian angel that knows you inside and out and would then be able to better serve you, so to speak. So that's what Gary Marcus is pointing out there, that if they don't deliver on AGI, they have tons of personal data from interactions, they have tons of important corporate data.
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Steve Bannon
But, well, but hang on, hang on, slow down. Slowly even forget whether they deliver an AGI or not if they're doing this. And he's part of the Stargate model, right, that the President announced in the Roosevelt Room, correct? Stargate. This is where he and Elon Musk, it continued their fight, Right? He just announced, I think, because I heard Elon Musk is in meltdown about it. First off, he was invited to go to the Middle east conference and Elon wasn't. I mean, Elon tagged along, but really OpenAI was. And then they came back and they just got a massive government contract, did they not, sir?
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Joe Allen
Yes, they did, with the Department of Defense. And then in addition to that, they had a contract with the US Government from the Biden administration that basically came into effect under Trump to use OpenAI's AI to either augment or in many cases replace government workers. So very similar to what we've been hearing about doge, but open AI.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah. So hang on a second. We just had an announcement and I forget the company, but I want the honest know they just had an announcement somewhere in the world. In fact, I think it was a Government had a massive breach of crypto. I think they had $70 million stolen out of a crypto on these crypto wallets. Gone in a flash. You've had this breach now both in the China. So when you get in a breach in China, remember the CCP takes this very seriously. We just had a breach here of 16 billion passwords. Correct? A breach of passwords. And there's only what, 7 billion, 7 and a half, maybe 8 billion people in the world. You're talking about this pendant and they see these, they're actually commercials now, have these agents, regardless of whether he gets to AGI, you're going, this is a massive surveillance. If they want an, if they want an artificial intelligence device worn as a pen or whatever, to be your guardian angel, to know everything about you, how can, how can they not have the opportunity to give it to a government, to give it to a bad actor, to give it to. Somebody's prepared to pay him if he's maybe not your friend? If they know everything about you, how is that not a possibility of a surveillance state that's so far bigger than 1984, than Orwell's biggest nightmare, sir.
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Joe Allen
Absolutely. And the really important thing there too, I mean, Google people put a lot of personal information into Google. Asking health questions, relationship questions, things like this email. Obviously people have personal communications all the time. If that gets breached, then they get into that. But with OpenAI's plan, it will read all of your searches, it will read all of your emails, it will listen to all your conversations, it will listen to all your calls, it will be held in a secure database and then used for your benefit, they say. But clearly, clearly one way or the other, whether it is with partnership with government, whether it is of their own sort of malicious intent, or if the database doesn't turn out to be as secure as it's promised, which happens all the time, then suddenly you have, you're basically exposed inside and out. You're naked out in the digital desert with snakes nipping at your heels.
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Steve Bannon
Why would anybody help me out here? Because I know people are doing this. Why would anybody give a non sentient, least now artificial intelligence device, a digital device, no matter how complex, why would anybody share everything that they have, all their thoughts, all their healthcare information, their financial information, all their emails, their text messages, all their Google searches? Why would, what, what is the incentive? Why would a rational human being. Right. Why would anybody do that, sir?
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Joe Allen
In my opinion, it's unfounded trust coupled with the desire for convenience. A lot of people basically rely, and myself included, I do this all the time. You rely on a digital device to communicate with loved ones. You rely on a digital device to get information that is of a very, very personal nature. And so this has been with us forever, Steve. You know, this has been with us all my adult Life. Since the 90s. They've been raking over our data. The difference though now is that already with smartphones, there's this normalization of using the smartphone to basically digitize your life, either to get information or give information about yourself to other people. With AI, there's this relationship being formed between human beings and AI of various sorts. Chatbots, even humanoid robots. I've seen this all weekend, all week at the World AI Summit, and I've seen it across the country. This process of merging people's personal lives with the digital realm and then raking it over and using it again. They always say to better serve you, blah, blah, blah. But it is very clear from Edward Snowden's revelations on Forward that this is being used by governments. This is being used by corporations that do not have your best interest at heart. And if the data is exposed, as we see with this massive breach of overlapping logins and passwords, if bad actors get a hold of it, then they've got you inside and out.
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Steve Bannon
Joe, can I get you. Can I commit to get you on tomorrow? Is the conference over? Is it finally ended?
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Joe Allen
Yeah, the conference is over. And I'm actually, I'm meeting in the. At noon Pacific time. I'm meeting with Joshua Bach, who is one of the foremost thinkers in artificial intelligence. And he's a wild one, but he's probably one of the foremost thinkers on the idea that AI is potentially going to become conscious. And again all week, I've heard this from many people. AI is now or will be in the future, this conscious being. So the relationship isn't just with a dead mechanism in their minds. The relationship is with a being that's looking back at you.
- [46:53]
Steve Bannon
You know, folks, with everything and all the work you've done, you've changed the arc of history, right? You've changed it with your human agency. Being part of this MAGA movement and being part of the Trump movement and everything we talk about coming down the golden escalator and the 10 years and all the triumphs, tragedies, victories, defeat, all of it and everything we're doing here, it pales even this stopping wars, getting our sovereignty back, getting 10 million invaders out, making sure, trying to fix the financial mess this country's in. It pales really in comparison when you look about what this, this technology, because it's about to overwhelm us. Elon Musk actually think he said he wouldn't return to gar. Somebody says, I'm not going to return to government. That's like picking up. I think it was the phrase Jerry said, picking up needles on the beach when he's preparing for the tsunami of artificial intelligence. That's coming. In fact, the Axios guys, I haven't had time to. I think there's another horrible report out about jobs this week. 10,000 layoff at Microsoft, 20,000 at Intel. Those are two of the most powerful and respected American technology companies. I think, Joe, it's safe to say that most of those are either driven by or adjacent to artificial intelligence. That that's why these, a lot of those jobs are leaving. This is the beginning of the tsunami against our best workers, the tech workers. So it is very disturbing and we're going to make sure we're on it. Just one thing about one of the other bombshells in that. Did the individual, who was the individual, did he say the Chinese Communist Party? Did I hear this right? He said that they're 10 to 15 times more involved in AI than we are or more advanced in AI than the United States. Is that what he said?
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Joe Allen
That was Andre Koenig of Global Quantum Intelligence. So he's talking about quantum computing, which the good news on that is that quantum computing right now at this present moment really isn't that far along. They can't do a whole lot with it. But Koenig, despite his skepticism, is fairly convinced that within the next few years, meaning five to 10 years, that it will be a very, very potent technological force, especially coupled with AI and the biggest danger or one of the biggest dangers. I mean, you heard him talking about material science and weapons production, but he's also pointing out the big fear of most people who look at quantum computing. If you were to have an extremely powerful quantum computer, then you could decrypt basically any system. The examples he gave JP Morgan and even the Department of Defense and nuclear codes. And it just highlights how much not just citizens, but our governments, our militaries, our companies, they're all putting total faith in these digital systems. Meanwhile, the AI companies are saying, yes, these systems are maybe going to go out of control. Maybe there's a 20% chance they're going to go out of control. And they're putting all their faith in these systems, which are obviously, obviously fragile. And there's one thing I would like to highlight too, just in response to this kind of dread of what the future could hold. I heard a number of people talking about, and I spoke to a lot of people about an interest in some kind of left and right wing convergence or cooperation in order to get some kind of regulation to bring these companies to heel. I've been hearing this a lot, but in person speaking to these people, I'm finding a lot of interest and a lot of tolerance for differing views. If we could just bring the AI companies and the tech companies in general to heal, bring them under control of the populace.
- [50:40]
Steve Bannon
Wow, Joe, where do people get your writings, your thoughts, all of it?
- [50:45]
Joe Allen
You can find my writings at Jobot XYZ and there are three great interviews from the World Summit AI Conference up on my X platform at xyz. That's Ben Goertzel, that is Gary Marcus and Pyle Aurora. I think the war room audience is really going to enjoy all three of those. Thank you very much, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
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