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Episode: WarRoom Battleground EP 797: UK City Council Removes Pride Flag After Small Christian Bookshop Complains
Release Date: June 25, 2025

Introduction

In WarRoom Battleground EP 797, hosted by WarRoom.org and featuring contributors Ben Harnwell, Frank Walker, and Jenny Holland, the discussion spans a range of pressing issues from the Catholic Church's stance on international conflicts to significant political developments in the United Kingdom. The episode delves into the intersection of religion, politics, and societal values, providing listeners with in-depth analysis and diverse perspectives.

Pope Leo’s Intervention in International Politics

Timestamp: [02:26]

Ben Harnwell opens the discussion by addressing Pope Leo’s recent intervention during the Corpus Christi celebrations, where the Pope commented on the ongoing conflict between Israel, Iran, and American military actions. The conversation critically examines Pope Leo's pacifist approach, questioning its effectiveness and depth.

• Frank Walker: "What strikes me... is his constant push for peace as if it's the sole tenet of Christianity. He neglects the concept that fighting against injustice can be a form of love and virtue."

Ben concurs, highlighting the absence of references to God and Jesus Christ in Pope Leo’s discourse, suggesting a lack of foundational religious principles in his call for peace.

• Ben Harnwell: "Jesus Christ said, 'I've not come to bring peace, but a sword as well,' which underscores the necessity of justice alongside peace."

The discussion critiques the Pope’s stance as potentially political maneuvering against figures like Trump, rather than a genuine spiritual message.

Assisted Dying Bill in the UK and Political Implications

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Jenny Holland shifts the focus to the United Kingdom's Assisted Dying Bill, highlighting a surprising vote against the bill by a Labor MP associated with Blue Labour—a traditionally conservative, blue-collar faction within the Labour Party.

• Jenny Holland: "I was surprised that a Labor MP voted against it, indicating that vestiges of traditional working-class conservative values still exist within the Labour Party."

The conversation underscores the bill's progression to the House of Lords amidst strong opposition, framing it as a "dark bill" with significant moral and ethical implications. The hosts express concern over the Church of England's lukewarm response, labeling it as bureaucratic and insufficiently principled.

Ben further connects this legislative move to broader economic strains, such as cuts to disability benefits and skepticism about the UK's commitment to NATO defense spending, suggesting a possible link between financial constraints and the push for assisted dying legislation.

Shift of Gen Z Towards Catholicism in the UK

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Jenny Holland presents findings from a Catholic News Agency report indicating that among Gen Z in the UK, Catholics now outnumber Anglicans by a ratio of 2 to 1. This shift is attributed to the perceived inadequacies of the Church of England in addressing contemporary moral issues, driving younger generations towards the Catholic Church.

• Jenny Holland: "Young people are turning towards Catholicism because they aren't finding the moral grounding they need elsewhere."

The discussion touches upon the broader trend of younger individuals seeking traditional religious structures amidst a secular upbringing, emphasizing the potential for rejuvenated common sense morality driven by the youth.

Additionally, Harnwell highlights the increasing church attendance among young men, noting that 21% of men aged 18 to 24 attend church monthly compared to 12% of their female peers, suggesting a revival of patriarchal religious engagement.

Critique of Catholic Media and Hierarchical Leadership

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Frank Walker critiques the Catholic media’s portrayal of Pope Leo, arguing that the traditional veneer applied to his image masks underlying issues within the Church's hierarchy. He references a post by Eric Sammons of Crisis Magazine, asserting that Pope Leo's traditional appearance does not compensate for his perceived liberal and anti-Catholic undertones.

• Frank Walker: "They think of our faith or faithful Catholics as something very shallow... pushing things they see in the Catholic Mass without the spiritual substance."

Ben Harnwell echoes this sentiment, expressing frustration with the superficial representation of Catholic leadership and calling for genuine conservative and evangelical engagement within both Catholic and Protestant communities.

• Ben Harnwell: "Christianity is a patriarchal religion... there's a moment going on for men to step forward and resume leadership roles."

The hosts advocate for united action among faithful Catholics and Protestants to counteract what they perceive as the dilution of religious principles by the Church's elite media.

Local Response to Pride Flag Removal in the UK

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Concluding on a lighter yet significant note, Jenny Holland reports on a local incident in a small northern English town where a pride flag was removed by the city council after a complaint from a nearby Christian bookshop. This event is portrayed as a microcosm of the broader cultural and religious tensions within the UK.

• Jenny Holland: "The small Christian bookshop's complaint against the pride flag highlights the ongoing struggle between traditional values and modern societal shifts."

Harnwell and Holland view this incident as emblematic of a "vibe shift" where conservative values are reclaiming public spaces, likening it to a modern-day David versus Goliath scenario.

Conclusion

WarRoom Battleground EP 797 offers a comprehensive exploration of the interplay between religion, politics, and societal change in the UK and beyond. Through incisive analysis and passionate debate, the hosts and guests challenge prevailing narratives, advocating for a return to traditional values and questioning the integrity of established religious institutions. This episode serves as a call to action for listeners to engage critically with the forces shaping contemporary moral and political landscapes.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Bannon [00:03]: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."

• Frank Walker [02:26]: "What he's doing is he's scolding people who are actually being virtuous and they're fighting... to be fighting is a very, very high, virtuous thing."

• Ben Harnwell [34:17]: "If the father takes the kids to church on Sunday, especially the sons, those kids are almost never likely to continue church going."

• Frank Walker [47:47]: "We're the faithful Protestants and the faithful Catholics have a political force. And if we have leadership, we can accomplish things together."

Resources and Further Listening:

• Jenny E. Holland’s Substack: jennyeholland.substack.com
• Canon 212 Website: canon212.com
• Ronald Walker’s Daily Update Video: Available on Rumble and Gloria TV via canon212.com

Stay tuned for the next episode of Bannon’s War Room, where the team continues to dissect the most critical developments shaping our world.