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WarRoom Battleground EP 799: Kennedy Appointed Vaccine Panel Causes Fear Amoung Deep State
WarRoom Battleground EP 799: Kennedy Appointed Vaccine Panel Causes Fear Amoung Deep State ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Terry Schilling
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Dr. Robert Malone
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
It's Friday the 27th of June, year of our Lord 2025. This is one of the issues I had with having to cover this war, that you get sucked into it. And every second of every day, like President Trump, you just got to focus on it. Think about it for the first hour now the second hour. So many important, monumental things have kind of happened in the last 72 hours. But these are all years in the in the making, both at the start, Supreme Court for support of the family, in support of traditional American values, and also in the Make America Healthy Again movement and what Bobby Kennedy did the other day. So monumental couple of days and we're spend time doing it. Julie Kelly, I want to go back to you. Mike Davis was able to allude to it quickly this and look, I'm not a lawyer, I don't pretend to be one, but that opinion got pretty personal. It got pretty personal. And as they circulated, that means the other justices, particularly people like Clarence Thomas and Alito, had to kind of a nod of approval. I mean, Amy Coney Barrett took a shot right at Judge Brown Jackson, essentially, not just for her coming down the side of an imperial judiciary, but kind of took a shot at not being totally with the program and really understanding the law, ma' am.
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Julie Kelly
I mean, she really did. This was a blowtorch from Amy Coney Barrett against Ketanji Brown Jackson. Now, of course, the three liberal harpies dissented in this opinion. Sonia Sotomayor wrote the majority, the minority dissent. Excuse me, but Katanji Brown Jackson, who has by far the greatest number of words in Supreme Court oral arguments. I know you've seen that chart that shows her way ahead of everyone else in her commentary. A few times she has had to be held back by Justice Chief Justice John Roberts for continually interrupting and opining during these oral Arguments. At any rate, she had to throw in her 2, 3, 4, 5 cents as well. And what Ketanji Brown Jackson claims is basically Trump is an authoritarian. The judiciary's role, including these district court judges who are acting single handedly, they are actually the authoritarians because of course, no one elected them. They were appointed and confirmed by the Senate to these lifetime gigs. So. And she actually warns that this is going to result in the demise of the Republic. Katanji Brown Jackson saying, this leaves a gash in the basic tenets of our founding charter that could turn out to be a mortal wound. What it means to have a system of government that is founded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions. And for that to actually happen, courts must have the power to order everyone, including the executive, to follow the law, full stop. That's not the judiciary's role. Is Amy Coney Barrett one of her rebuttals to Ketanji Brown Jackson is no. Our job is to take cases and litigation that is passed up through us, from the district court to appellate court to us, and to manage those cases to decide who is right and who is wrong. So this did get very personal. One point, Amy Coney Barrett actually sort of suggesting that Katanji Brown Jackson is not following her oath as a judge to work within the constraints of Congress and the Constitution, that the judiciary is not imperial, that is not all encompassing. The judges can just decide on their own if the executive or anyone else is following the law. That's not their co. Equal branches of government. But in Ketanji Brown Jackson and, and Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, except for a few years ago when she also decried the use of nationwide preliminary injunctions, now changed her mind because of Trump. Everything is through the lens of Donald Trump and Republicans and people like us, the MAGA movement, everything that they consider is through the lens of Donald Trump and maga. So that's how you got Amy Coney Barrett taking another shot at what Ketanji Brown Jackson saying is legalese. Too much legalese coming from the Supreme Court in this majority opinion. And she mocked that as well, saying, well, I'm sorry, basically this is a mind numbingly technical query. That's what Katandi Brown Jackson criticized the majority about. She offers a vision of the judicial role that would make even the most ardent defenders of judicial supremacy blush. This is Amy Coney Barrett about Ketanji Brown Jackson observing the limits on judicial authority, including as relevant here, the boundaries of the Judiciary act of 1789, which is the basis of their overturning these injunctions, something that Ketanji Brown Jackson said is legalese. Here's Amy Coney Barrett Continuing is required by a judge's oath to follow the law. No one disputes that the executive has a duty to follow the law. More Amy Coney Barrett. Amy Coney Barrett but the judiciary does not have unbridled authority to enforce this obligation. In fact, sometimes the law prohibits the judiciary from doing so. So there is a lot it seems like maybe pent up frustration from Amy Coney Barrett in this opinion. But look, I also think it's sort of a political move by ACB because she has been criticized by us and others, certainly our friend Mike Davis and MAGA quarters for suddenly appearing to be siding with the three liberal harpies. I think this is a way of her not only signaling that she's not aligned with them, has serious questions about their abilities and their intelligence, but also maybe showing her own or trying to show her own independence as one of the justices is on the Supreme Court.
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Steve Bannon
You're arguing that not only we've, we've pushed back and now have the Supreme Court telling us that this judicial insurrection has to be put down. But your theory of the case is we ain't seen nothing yet that these guys are these people, men and women, are dug in. They understand this is the one way they've got to really slow down the Trump revolution, the Trump movement. And you're going to see all types of doubling down in courts and more filings and class actions and every trick they can pull, including judges are saying, hey, we hear you, but we're not going to do it. Is that essentially the Julie Kelly theory of the case here?
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Julie Kelly
Well, I mean, I don't think it's just me, of course, I don't have a law degree either. But I do think that that is something that actually Justice Samuel Alito, he referenced and addressed in his separate concurrence with the majority. And he did say that this opinion really leaves this territory where this lawfare can continue both standing by states, these blue states who have also weighed in in this litigation. And then the class wide certification, class wide designation that basically gets us to the same place, but then will be kind of this piecemeal approach also. So he, he really addressed the concerns about what this will lead to next. And I do think that as we discussed, we're already seeing this playing out with new briefs and motions being filed immediately today. So it will take some time the next few weeks until we really see the consequences of this opinion but as far as again, going back to win for the Trump and the Department of Justice here and I think for separation of powers, not letting one random district court judge in Washington state or Maryland or Massachusetts or New Jersey designate an entire ban an entire set of potential subjects from a presidential directive. So there's other ways to accomplishment. We sort of saw that in the Alien Enemies Act. So there's a lot of different levers that these plaintiffs, these activists can still use and are using and will continue to use. And that was Justice Alito's concern in the opinion today.
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Steve Bannon
Julie, where do people get you on substack and social media? Because I know people want to figure and want to break it all down, have your deconstruction of all this, ma' am.
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Julie Kelly
So I'm at Substack Declassified with Julie Kelly and also on X, Julie Underscore Kelly, too. I will continue to be posting snippets from this opinion and I will have a video up to tonight on Substack talking more about this Mean Girls cat fight between Amy Coney Barrett and Katanji Brown Jackson.
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Steve Bannon
Wow, I can't wait till that's out. We're going to be posting that pushing out over. Thank you, ma' am. Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly. Thanks for doing on a Friday. Tiffany. Justice, this is also it's back to the grind, huge victory today, but it's going to go back to school district by school district. We're still going to have this fight, ma' am.
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Tiffany Justice
Well, the Montgomery County School District now needs to notify parents if these books are going to be used in the classroom. And the Supreme Court said, granted a preliminary injunction and said that the parents have the right now to opt out of these books being read to their children. This will go back to the district court for the case to be heard on its merits. Justice Sotomayor, Mayor, issuing the dissenting opinion here as well, and the minority dissenting opinion. And what she said was she was very concerned that there might be chaos. I think she said that she claimed it might threaten, threaten public education. Here's the deal. School board members, superintendents don't violate the religious rights of parents. In fact, you know, maybe focus on reading, writing and math. This is an opportunity for school districts. Take the hint from the Supreme Court, from the president, from the American parents that we want to get we want you to get back to educating our children, not indoctrinating them.
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Steve Bannon
Tiffany, you're doing great work over heritage. Tell us about where to go social media, how they found out more about Your work?
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Tiffany Justice
Yeah, you can always follow me on X. It's at the number four. Tiffany justice. And I've joined the Heritage foundation to lead a parental rights initiative there. Family is the foundation of America. So I'm working to connect groups like Moms for Liberty, American Principles Project, so many amazing groups that are doing work in the area of parental rights, connecting them together across the country with other grassroots leaders and just grassroots everyday Americans that are fighting for the survival of America. So you can go to heritage.org check out the parental rights website there and join the movement. We do a weekly call. We'd love to have you on it.
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Steve Bannon
Tiffany, thank you so much. Great work. Great victory today. Now back to work. Fantastic. Great, great. Warrior Schilling. Same thing. You've got, you've got some major victories here, but it's just the beginning, is it not?
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Terry Schilling
No, Steve, that's exactly right. And what I think a lot of people will be shocked to know about and maybe not since this is the poss. A lot of the, most of these problems are coming from the federal government. Right. This is previous administrations and the mandates that they included from the Department of Education. That's why President Trump's dismantling of the Department of Education was so important, is because that Department of Education has been used to push all of this crazy, insane stuff on our kids in government run schools. But the fight's just beginning. I mean, and look, the fight's going very well. We're up to 27 states now that are protecting girls, sports and protecting kids from these horrific and harmful gender mutilation procedures. 23 states have age verification. But it's not going to work unless we protect the whole country. Right. We need national legislation now. Congress and this big, beautiful bill, the Senate needs to get these defund, defunding gender transition procedures back into the bill. The parliamentarian struck that out. I think we'll get it back in. But, you know, there's a long, long, long road to go just to uproot all this stuff. And then we gotta start building again, Steve. I mean, we gotta figure out how to get young people getting married and having kids again, right? The Pew surveys, the public opinion polls now show that 40% of young people don't even want to get married. That's just crazy.
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Steve Bannon
It's amazing. This, this whole affordability issue, one of the deep things of this New York City situation is about young people affordability. They want to get on with their lives. Terry, you've been fighting a great fight here. Where do people go on your Social media, but also over to the website.
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Terry Schilling
It's just shilling 1776 across all social media platforms. And then our website, by the way, sign up, we have these monthly big family meetings where we give these more in depth Updates. It's American Principlesproject.org we'd love to have you guys all keep joining and supporting us.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Great fight.
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Terry Schilling
Thanks, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Big day. Talk about the federal government and a fight and some heroes. Dr. Robert Malone, of course, Mary Holland back from the morning show, and Dr. Merrill Cass. I want to start with you, Dr. Malone. What has happened? What is this huge firestorm that Big Pharma and people in the Senate are all upset about some decisions that were made the last couple days about vaccines, Sir.
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Dr. Robert Malone
Yeah, so Steve, I think it's clearly turned out to be a tempest in a teapot. All the hype, all the derision, all of the character assassination that's been deployed by corporate media came down to a small group of new appointees for the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the CDC who are actually, despite the gaslighting and derision, extremely well qualified. For instance, the chair of the committee is probably the world's most highly qualified and accomplished epidemiologist. I'm grateful for Secretary Kennedy's appointing me to the committee, but I'm one of a number that are very experienced in medical research, in medical practice, in regulatory affairs, and in providing government oversight. Two of the members of the committee were previously on the FDA corresponding committee called the Vaccine and Related Biologics Product Advisory Committee. So it's a well composed, small committee right now. It was put in place on short notice because Senator Kennedy. I'm sorry, Secretary Kennedy, that was a Freudian slip. Disagreed with the packing of the ACIP by the prior administration and chose to retire the existing members who have been, many of whom have been identified as having major financial conflicts of interest that were unrecognized by or or not acknowledged previously by the cdc. Okay, so we have a new.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. What is the acip? People? A lot of people here are like, hey, we haven't seen Malone since the pandemic. We're glad he's in good shape. Last time we saw him, he's like in Romania at some conference. What is the acip? What, what did you guys actually get appointed to? Because big Pharma tried to hit you guys with a blowtorch, right? So something's up. What's the ACIP Bobby Kennedy got rid of all the guys and then put on a new group. And the official Washington was not happy about that, correct?
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Dr. Robert Malone
Not just official Washington, the whole academic vaccinology infrastructure. So Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is a voluntary group that is appointed by the Secretary of HHS to advise the director of the cdc. This is what's called a FACA committee. It's only supposed to be advisory. But because of some of the clauses of the Vaccines for Children act, the ACIP over time has really developed a disproportionate amount of authority over setting the standards for immunization practices and antibody and other interventions having to do with infectious disease for the entire United States. Basically, the ACIP has been setting standard of care. So for those of you who are concerned about the vaccine schedule, particularly young parents that their children are in many cases mandated to accept if they're going to go to school, it's been the ACIP that has established those norms. And then they get propagated out through the various professional societies and into the states that then accept them. Because who's going to go against the.
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Steve Bannon
So this, this, although it's a tiny. It's a tiny community, say this is an extraordinarily powerful and prestigious committee, correct? Yeah.
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Dr. Robert Malone
And it's kind of had mission creep, Steve, as far as I'm concerned. I think it's a little big for its britches. The truth is it's just supposed to advise the director of the cdc.
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Steve Bannon
Well, he got rid of how many. How many people did he bottom blow out of this thing, which was the start. How many people that you said potentially conflicts. How many people you get rid of?
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Dr. Robert Malone
He got rid of all 17 from the prior board. Now that doesn't include all of the many hundreds that sit on the subcommittees, but the main 17 were retired and replaced by.
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Steve Bannon
But he got rid of the. He got rid of the. He got rid of the whole 17. Correct me if I'm wrong, that has never been done before. They got rid of the entire acip. Okay, fine. And then they replaced them. He replaced them. Who did he replace those 17 with?
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Dr. Robert Malone
So right now we have seven people. We were up to eight. But one of them was not able to meet the federal requirements for resolving conflict of interest. Basically own too much stock. So we're down 7.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, hang on, hang on. 7. Sorry. 0.7. And official Washington. The pharmaceutical industry took umbrage with that. Right. They said U7 were basically not qualified to replace the 17, essentially. Correct.
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Dr. Robert Malone
None of them had any vaccine development Experience. They were just a bunch of anti vaxxers, you know, the usual tropes.
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Steve Bannon
Yes, but you guys correct me if I'm wrong. Have you. You've already made some decisions or you've made some opinions or you've let your thoughts out about some of the traditional vaccines. Am I correct on that?
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Dr. Robert Malone
So the way that this works is that you are, there's these subcommittees do a lot of study and they make recommendations for language that is then voted on and the data and information supporting those recommendations are presented during the public meeting. So that's what took place. And we concurred with the language for the proposed changes. I think to the great surprise of our detractors, we thought that the prior subcommittees had done their jobs well. We did raise a number of issues with particularly the CDC and its analyses of issues relating to the COVID product and questioned a lot of the underlying assumptions behind those analyses. And then we also argued really quite stridently among ourselves about the other recommendations and in the end agreed that the recommendations that had come from the subcommittees were correct. And so the majority voted to accept those recommendations and pass them up to the CDC director for authorization.
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Steve Bannon
And what, what was controversial about that? Because Already you guys, the 7 replacement 17 was controversial and already the actions you've taken are controversial. What, what actions have you taken that have got you guys crossways with the vaccine industry?
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Dr. Robert Malone
Actually the truth is that none of the things that came up for a vote really impact hinged on the interests of the vaccine industry. So that was a bit overblown by the press. What the key decision that has caught a lot of corporate media in a, in a twist is really a tiny little change. The removal of multi dose influenza vaccine vials that contained the mercury based compound that is used as a, basically to facilitate sterility.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Just hit the rewind and give me the. Because you say it's like, it's like, it's, it's like the end of the world. The pharmaceutical industry is saying this is the end of mankind as we know it, is it not? That's all I've read and I'm not professional, but I see, I see that you guys are demons. You're a bunch of incompetence. You're going to kill every kid in America. So what was it that you guys actually did?
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Dr. Robert Malone
Well the thing that has got the press in a tail twist and in pharma apparently and a lot of the professional societies like aap, the same people that recommend that our children undergo gender reassignment surgery is that we voted to discontinue the use of multi dose vials of influenza vaccine that contain the mercury containing compound called thimerosal, which is about a total of 3% of the total doses of influenza administered in the United States per year. So this is absolutely a tempest in a teapot. And what it means is that now they're going to have to use single dose vials or filled syringes for all influenza vaccines as opposed to just 97% of influenza vaccines. It's really a nothing burger.
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Steve Bannon
Wow. Okay. Dr. Malone, what is your. How can people get more information about everything you're doing now that you're on this committee and you're dealing with Bobby Kennedy, who is a folk hero? Where can people go? To your website, to your social media, to all of it.
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Dr. Robert Malone
So, Steve, as you know, now that I am, I have the privilege of volunteering for the federal government on a periodic basis. I have to be very careful about what I say regarding anything I learned from within the government. So you will find carefully edited commentary on our sub stack and in on X getter and gab at R.W. malone, M.D. and the substack is now called Malone News. So I'm able to comment on the ACIP meetings after we've had them. But I can't talk about future things.
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Steve Bannon
Dr. Malone, I know this is, it's been extraordinary. Glad to have you back on and you've been one of the great voices on here and people glad to have you back. Understand that you're very restricted now that you're seeing all this information on this tiny committee that has no influence at all except that the medical thing is in total meltdown and they want to look at, they're looking for, they're looking for Malone. Like we used to hunt Fauci, they're trying to hunt Malone. Dr. Malone, we love you, brother. Thank you for taking time to join us today.
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Dr. Robert Malone
Yes, Sir.
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Steve Bannon
Mary Hyland, Dr. Kass are going to break it all down for us. This is quite. Dr. Malone underplayed that. Quite controversial. Bobby Kennedy on the move in the make America healthy again. Tomorrow we're going to break down doodle economics, capital markets, a lot of things happening. The Financial Times of London tells us, quote, lead story, investors flee US long term bonds in fear of soaring debt. I think we may take a crack of that. Want to thank the guys at Birch Gold. They're heading out to Brazil. They're doing tough duty. Got to be in Rio. Now these BRICS nations, they know how to pick a spot to have a conference. This is probably the most important conference ever in the history of brics, which is kind of the Global south, the resource rich Global South. They're not too happy about the US dollar. They don't like the declining purchasing price of it and they say they're going to do something about it. 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Dr. Robert Malone
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, folks, you remember Dr. Malone from the old days. He wasn't throwing any bombs today. That was, you know, it was a little painful there for a Second, get it out. But let me refer you to the paper of record for our beloved republic. That would be the New York Times. As President Trump says, the failing fake news New York Times, the lead story. One of the lead stories on the top, on the right hand side, above the fold panel reversal is early signal in vaccine shift Flu shot vote echoes Kennedy skepticism. And as I go inside to page 15, which is massive, it's got good old Dr. Malone right there and they're not saying great things about him. He's a kook, he's a nut, he's a skeptic. Mary Holland, this is huge news and this is their biggest nightmare. This has been a 30 year range war and finally the forces of reason have come forward and they ain't happy. It's not up here as a lead story in the New York Times hammering you people about. You're essentially going to kill the nation. Starting with the children, ma' am.
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Mary Holland
Right. So what that story is all about, Steve, is that mercury finally has been taken out of all routine childhood vaccines, including flu shots. Now Dr. Malone's right that it was a small percentage at this point, but this has been a 30 year battle because it became known that thimerosal, this mercury containing preservative in multi dose vials was being administered and they hadn't kept track of the amount of mercury. And mercury is a poison, let's just be really clear. It's a heavy metal, it's a poison, it's neurotoxic, it's toxic to the body. So this hand. So basically the first president of Children's Health Defense, my friend Lynn Redwood, gave a presentation yesterday to the acip, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. And she walked them through the history and she walked them through the science. There's zero question that mercury is harming people and it should never be injected into babies. And so what was established yesterday is in a 6 to 1 vote, there's no more multi dose vials with mercury. This is a big deal because for 30 years, Steve, the medical profession, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the government had been saying, oh well, you know, out of an abundance of caution, we took that out and it really was never causing any harm anyway. No, this taking this out and putting in place a prohibition or putting in place the fact that the government's not gonna pay for this anymore, that's gonna save babies, that's absolutely gonna save lives. And it does put big pharma on the defensive because the government has now taken the science based system and if you want to read something really fun, Bobby Kennedy himself in an X post just pushed back this week on a Guardian article saying there's nothing to thimerosal, it's no big deal. And he just decimates the Guardian article with the science.
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Steve Bannon
No, we'll have to push that out. Dr. Merrill Ness, walk us through. Why is this even a thing? It would seem logical you would not want mercury in this. Why? Why has the. Why is the pharmaceutical industry Big Pharma decided to like die on this hill? Why have they made this such a huge deal that the New York Times has covered it on the front page? Ma' am.
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Dr. Merrill Nass
They had. The committee basically gave the CDC what it wanted in its other votes. And I mean, everybody would agree mercury is so toxic that you're not allowed to throw it away. It has to be disposed of, you know, as dangerous waste. So it made perfect sense to take it out of vaccines. Why would you have it if 97% of the flu shots don't have it, why would you leave it in 3%? So it's a silly hill to die on. But this is all they had and they used it.
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Steve Bannon
But why, I think it's for layman. Why is the pharmaceutical and the vaccine industry seem so resistant to what Bobby Kennedy and you guys represent is which we just want to go with good science, we just want to go with good research. And they've dug in. I mean, this is one of the biggest wars in Washington D.C. now it's kind of burst out to the scene and they're saying, hey, we warned you that Kennedy was a radical and had all these nutcase anti vaxxers that went back of him. But why did they pick something like this as be the first kind? There's more coming. But why are they sitting there when something like mercury seems obvious? You shouldn't have it in a flu vaccine, ma' am.
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Dr. Merrill Nass
Right, well, I can't answer that question for you. Obviously it shouldn't be there. Obviously they did the right thing. Obviously it should have been done a long time ago. Obviously any man on the street would agree. But like I said, they didn't have anything else. The committee did not challenge the CDC as expected. And so all they had was mercury.
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Mary Holland
Can I speak to that, Steve?
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Steve Bannon
What is it? Yeah, go ahead, Mary, jump in.
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Mary Holland
At the heart of this mercury issue has been do vaccines cause autism? And 30 years ago, when parents were seeing their kids regress into autism, at first they were really fingering mercury and thimerosal. And thimerosal was taken out of most of the shots, including most of the flu shots. But for them on this issue, it takes us right to the heart of why are so many kids, one in 31 in the latest data, being diagnosed with this neurodevelopment, neurodevelopmental condition, which is associated with harms from mercury as a toxic exposure. So it takes us right into the heart of this question that again, the CDC has been asleep at for 30 plus years. They don't want to look at this, Steve, because there is culpability here. So it just reopened that debate and it hadn't been on the long term agenda. Everything else that they considered had been on this running agenda. All these different vaccines, but the thimerosal was put straight there in the middle. And this is. Bobby Kennedy wrote a book on thimerosal. Right. This really is in some ways one of the starting point issues for children's health defense and why we have an epidemic of chronic childhood disease.
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Steve Bannon
So is that why the fight so big? Because they realize they kind of see downrange where you guys are heading, which is this, these vaccines or the over vaccination of all these 62 vaccines or different vaccines is the reason that we've seen the rise, which Bobby talked about in his confirmation hearing, we've seen the rise in autism, is that they understand that this is the battle, this is where it's going to lead.
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Mary Holland
Well, this was a signature issue for the last 30 years. And so having this thrown in their face and having this committee agree, yeah, this is a problem. We don't inject mercury into babies. With one dissenting voice on that, somebody who is an old guard who was like, oh, there's no science on this, which is ridiculous. You know, this is a signal that things are changing. To me, the most important thing about these two day meetings was there's a totally different tone, right. They're saying we're gonna look at the cumulative schedule, we're gonna look at the timing of these shots, we're gonna see whether there really should be a hepatitis B shot on the day of birth. There's still, they're really signaling, like we're not the old guard. We're actually going to do our job. We're actually going to look at the science. We're actually going to have internal debates. We're actually not going to be acting out of conflicts of interest. And so it must be pretty upsetting to Big Pharma.
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Steve Bannon
Dr. Nass, as a doctor, why is it seemed the New York Times and all these other you know, publications, the Guardian of the New York Times, which you can't get more progressive than that. You would think progressive organizations would want to use. You know, they're always jumping us during the pandemic. You got to use, you know, trust the science, Trust the trust. You know, trust the experts. Why are they going against. When you guys present and people are talking about basic, as Bobby Kenney said, the kind of platinum we're going to get platinum level science and research. Why is there such a. Almost they get very emotional about it. They come off the chain right away. Why explain to our audience why is that?
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Dr. Merrill Nass
Well, it's not for anything logical. They're trying to cut Bobby Kennedy off at the knees. So everything he does has to be challenged. And nobody talks about the fact that this committee actually only had about eight people on it last year. And then right before the Biden left office, they packed the committee with Biden people and packed other federal committees, a number of them, with Biden people, so that Trump wouldn't have the opportunity to name his own people. And so Bobby, dismissing the entire committee and filling them with people who are not part of mostly farmers coterie is a big challenge and it may preside.
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Steve Bannon
I think she froze up. We'll get back to her. Mary Holland, what Cassidy is from. Cassidy, the senator is from one of the most MAGA states, most red states. He's, he's kind of taken the side of big pharma. How does that play out when President Trump is very adamant Make America Healthy again is a big movement that he supports. He got Bobby Kennedy there. This audience really hammered it on the confirmation hearing. He likes where Bobby Kennedy is going on this. He likes what he's seen. He likes these new committees. He likes the direction. What is the situation with Senator Cassidy?
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Mary Holland
You know, he was the last confirmation vote and he represented to the Senate that he got all, he extracted all these promises from Secretary Kennedy. I don't think that that's true, but on the record, Bobby Kennedy did say, I will work with Senator Cassidy. The health Committee will have input into what I do. You know, Senator Cassidy is a physician. He's a gastroenterologist. He's obviously a huge vaccine advocate, and he does take a lot of money from pharma. He's one of the biggest recipients of pharma money in the Senate. And he's definitely a bit out of step with MAGA and with Maha and what President Trump is doing. And clearly, you know, on Monday, he said that this meeting should not take place on Wednesday. And Thursday and it went ahead. So it's, it's going to be a rough relationship, it looks like.
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Steve Bannon
Barry, where do people. This is a huge story. We're going to start, as I told Tony Lyons, making sure we get more maha people on here because there's so much going on. It's just been kind of crowded. The news, although it's monumental, the progress you guys have made already. And I want to give a hat tip to all the hard work social media where they go. People want to find out more about this and get caught up over the weekend. Where do they go? Yeah.
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Mary Holland
Childrenshealthdefense.org we have a free newsletter that comes out every day. We have a free streaming platform, chctv. We ran everything from these ASIP meetings on Wednesday and Thursday. And our social media handle on X is Children's hd. And I encourage people to come.
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Steve Bannon
Ma' am, thank you so much. Dr. Merrill Nass, do you have social media? Where can people go to get you find out everything about you.
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Dr. Merrill Nass
Thanks. Substack merrillnass.substack.com and I started an organization, doortofreedom.org thanks.
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Steve Bannon
What is Door to Freedom? Tell us about Door to Freedom. Take a minute. What's Door to Freedom and why should people go there?
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Dr. Merrill Nass
Well, so we started Door to Freedom a couple of years ago to fight the who, which was trying to take over global public health. It was an educational organization. And we went to eight parliaments around the world and spoke to members and we spoke to many members of Congress and eventually 49 senators, 26 governors and 22 attorneys general said we're not allowed.
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Steve Bannon
Oh, we froze again. I tell you what, I want everybody to go to Door to Freedom. We'll get that up. Ma' am. You've got a lot of supporters here because WHO was a big deal. Let's get to Door to Freedom and push it out. We'll get Dr. Nast back up when her when we don't have the technical problems. Okay. Thank you, Murhaum. Folks, this is a big one, a front page of the New York Times. And as I know many people associated with this, the Make America Healthy Again has just been absolutely incredible and unbelievable and a huge fight. And we're glad you got Dr. Malone on here. And I want to report to the media, Dr. Malone, as I think the chairman of the committee ASAP. He was on his best behavior. So take that. Okay. We've got a cold open. Something happened extraordinarily extraordinary. Many things happened. It was a I was telling somebody it's tough to do a show when the President's press avails are so amazing. Great for entertainment, great for content. I mean, you know, you saw the NATO. The other day was a masterclass. Today, another masterclass. The reporters really appreciated it, but there was an extraordinary moment. Extraordinary moment from somebody we really know. Let's go ahead and play. We got a. We got a clip. We're going to play it, and then we're going to bring her on.
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Kara Castronova
Is there any more information on the special prosecutor? So many Americans still have questions about the 2020 election. And speaking of rogue judges, would you consider appointing somebody at DOJ maybe to investigate the judges that allowed for the political persecution of you, your family, and your supporters during the Biden administration?
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Steve Bannon
I love you.
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Who are you?
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Kara Castronova
I'm Kara from Lindell tv.
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Well, it's just a very nice question, and it's not a setup. I have no idea who you are, but I appreciate that question. All I can say is we're not here for that. I hope so. So I hope they're doing a thing, because that election was rigged and stolen, and we can't allow that to happen. You know, a lot of people tell me, sir, you just won the greatest election in the history of our country. You won it. Numbers that won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, won everything, sir. Go on with your life. And the many people say that, good people, friends of mine, then you have people that say, that's same thing. Go on with your life. But you have to find out what happened, because you can't let that happen again. Look at what this lunatic did. Look at what he did. He opened our borders to people that were murderers. 11,888, to be exact. Murderers. And we've captured many of those murderers, and we're bringing them back. Or some of them are so dangerous that we don't even want to bring them back. We're afraid they're going to try and come back in. But he allowed people to come into this country. People from mental institutions, insane asylums. That's a mental institution on steroids. People from mental institutions, gang members, drug dealers, people. Oh, jails being emptied out into our country. Venezuela emptied out almost its entire prison population into our country. But I don't want to blame them. Many countries have done that. The Congo. You know, we have a great press conference coming up later.
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Steve Bannon
We continue to listen to the President of the United States at a press conference that was to be about the big rulings today from the Supreme Court. But I think it's important to note here that once again, the accusations he has been making have no basis in fact. There is absolutely no evidence that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. It was the litigated and relitigated, and nothing was found. We should also say that his allegations against Joe Biden and his musings about the possible use of the auto pen have no basis in fact behind them. We want to go back to the president because we do want to hear, given the nature and the importance of the Supreme Court rulings today, that he may say something that is newsworthy and some of the other topics, including tariffs. But we felt it wasn't. Wow. Kara Casanova joins us. Ma' am, the lead White House correspondent for Lindell. Ma' am, you made my day. It was a great question and it so torched the mainstream media. MSNBC had to cut in. Go back to your question. Was a very important question. You asked about a special prosecutor that would be selected by President Trump to look into the election fraud, which, as you know, on Lindell TV and the war room is the number one priority. Walk us through that, ma' am.
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Kara Castronova
Yes, I did ask that question, and I was glad to be able to do so, Steve, it's important. A lot of Americans are frustrated. People still want answers to the 2020 election. A lot of people don't believe it was legitimate, as you know. And it seems like the mainstream media has just forgotten about it. There was never an investigation or a real one, especially by Department of Justice, at least under the Trump administration. So President Trump had mentioned in a true social post that he was going to appoint a special prosecutor. And I just was asking if there was any updates on that. And then obviously, importantly, Steve, as you know better than anybody else how rogue these judges are with this Supreme Court decision coming out today in favor of President Trump now, I'm thinking, would he consider hopefully appointing another special prosecutor to look into the judges that politically persecuted people like you, his allies, his supporters, himself, his family, and just really putting that question out there. I actually was the first reporter to ask a question about the auto pen, and then it really took off. So I do feel like getting those questions out there and sort of into the minds of other reporters is really important because I've said it a million times. When Trump's not in office in a couple of years, if we don't clean out the DOJ and at least make examples of some of these rogue judges that politically persecuted Americans and allowed Merrick Garland to do so, then it's going to happen all over again. As you know.
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Steve Bannon
This is why Trump 28 and somebody gave a shout out today carrot real quickly because we got to bounce. We got a heart out. Did you know when it when did you find out that MSNBC so hated your question and the president's response that they actually cut in, Chris Jansen cut in and her hair was on fire about the questions about the phoniness of it. When did you find that out, ma' am?
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Kara Castronova
I just found that out recently. Steve. I've been busy. Actually was in the Oval Office today, which was an honor to get to be there as the president signed that peace deal. I really wasn't aware. I don't pay attention or watch msnbc. So I just found that out very recently. But of course they don't want to air a question like that. They still are covering up for that 2020 election. So I just found that out sort of as I came onto this show. It's very amusing, Steve.
- [51:24]
Steve Bannon
Carrie, Carrie, you're just fantastic. Where do you go for social media? How do we follow you? We see you on Lindell TV all the time, but how other people follow you?
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Kara Castronova
Ma' Am, Follow us on Lindell TV and at Cara Castronova on X. Please follow me there. It would be an honor. Thank you so much for having me today.
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Steve Bannon
Kara, you're fantastic. Pretty good White House crew we got over there. Natalie, Brian, Glenn, Amanda head Cara Casanova for Lindell. I'm telling you, it's a sea change. Thank you. Be back here 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time Saturday show is going to be lit. We're going to start off in Kentucky and you're going to see maybe the reign of Mitch McConnell is going to come to an end. Never know on McConnell ism. We're going to start off there tomorrow and talk about it. Want to thank Birchgold. Make sure you make your weekend reading because we're heading up to I guess it's Sunday. It kicks off the sixth is the the BRICS nations. We're sending a whole team down there led by Philip Patrick and the team. Make sure you understand why gold is a hedge. Make sure you understand why it's a hedge against fiat currency, particularly things like the US dollar. The BRICS nations are complaining about it. Birchgold.com promo code BEN and enter the Dollar Empire and you get a relationship with with Philip Packard team And remember it's free. Thank you. Big day. Historic day. We'll see you tomorrow morning, 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time for.