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Speaker Johnson
Speaker Johnson, this is sort of on the heels of something else that a lot of people are asking questions about. And because we've been lied to by our federal government for so long, I feel like there's some type of, like a. There's a pain point.
Benny Johnson
Right.
Speaker Johnson
And a pressure cooker that. That gets heated up on issues like the Epstein issue.
Benny Johnson
Yeah, Right.
Speaker Johnson
And obviously that's something that's taken over a lot of the online dialogue. But a question here about it that concerns either testifying or testimony for Ghislaine Maxwell potentially before Congress, or if you would support members like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Anna Paulina Luna on the release of subpoena, subpoenaing the Epstein documents from the doj, whether you would support either of those.
Mike Lindell
Yeah, I haven't talked to Marjorie or Anna about that specific subject, but I'm for transparency. We're intellectually consistent in this. We. Look, Reagan used to tell us we should trust the American people. I believe in that principle. I know President Trump does as well, and I trust him. I mean, he put together a team of his choosing and they're doing a great job. It's a very delicate subject, but we should. We should put everything out there and let the people decide it. I mean, the, the White House and the White House team are privy to facts that I don't know. I mean, this isn't my lane. I haven't been involved in that.
Benny Johnson
But.
Mike Lindell
But I agree with the sentiment that we need to. We need to put it out there. And, and, you know, Pam Bondi, I don't know when she originally made the statement. I think she was talking about documents. As I understood it, they were on her desk. I don't know that she was specific about a list or whatever, but she needs to come forward and explain that to everybody. I like Pam. I mean, I think she's done a good job. We need the DOJ focusing on the major priorities. So let's get this thing resolved so that they can deal with violent crime and public safety and election integrity and going after Act Blue and the things that the President is most concerned about as we are. So I'm anxious to get this.
Benny Johnson
Behind.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to Stop it.
Congressman Moore
It's going to happen.
Benny Johnson
And where do people like that go.
Stephen K. Bannon
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Congressman J
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Stephen K. Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Benny Johnson
Country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, Tuesday the 15th of July, year overlord 2025. I want to play that one. That was Benny Johnson and actually in the speaker's office doing a interview just popped up for us, Speaker Johnson and this, I would say, not close coordination with the White House. He does back the White House and other things, but he drops a couple of bombs there. Marjorie Taylor Greene and others were saying, hey, they want Maxwell to come and testify before Congress in the nation. I think he said right there he would back that up. Also he thinks, I guess they ought to be turning over. President Trump. Said they hey, anything that's relevant or ready kind of did as a throwaway line should be turned over. In fact, maybe I'll pull that clip and play it again. Let's. I want to play this one again. So it fully hits the. Here's my point. We've been very consistent on this. It's got to be turned over. We think if they have problems, turn it over to the special counsel. We think is going to be announced here in the next couple of days, which is going to get to the heart of looking at the deep state's efforts to take down President Trump, which to me is the number one priority we have to do. I think this fits right into it because it's pretty clear that Epstein was working with, was working with intelligence services. And I think that's going to be the thing that shocks people. Not just his list or wherever these billionaires were and rich people and other plugged in people throughout the world, but that there was intelligence apparatuses of this country and other countries that were intimately involved in this. And this is why we're going to have Jefferson Morley on tomorrow, one of the best writers and researchers into this whole Kennedy assassination, which is becoming more and more clear 60 some years afterwards, that there was a coup against President Kennedy. And if what was said in the Washington Post today about what the CIA knew and how they had been actively involved in monitoring Oswald, particularly in New Orleans and in Dallas, if that had come out on the Friday night of President Kennedy's assassination, the nation would have exploded. Right. Given what had happened in the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Let's Play that clip again, I wanted, because this is going to be driving the story overnight and tomorrow about where this is the speaker of the House interview just a short while ago.
Speaker Johnson
Speaker Johnson, this is sort of on the heels of something else that a lot of people are asking questions about. And because we've been lied to by our federal government for so long, I feel like there's some type of, like a. There's a pain point.
Benny Johnson
Right.
Speaker Johnson
In a pressure cooker that. That gets heated up on issues like the Epstein issue.
Benny Johnson
Yeah, right.
Speaker Johnson
And obviously that's something that's taken over a lot of the online dialogue. There's a question here about it that concerns either testifying or testimony for Ghislaine Maxwell potentially before Congress or if you would support members like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Anna Paulina Luna on the release of subpoena, subpoenaing the Epstein documents from the doj, whether you would support either of those.
Mike Lindell
Yeah, I haven't talked to Marjorie or Anna about that specific subject, but I'm for transparency. We're intellectually consistent in this. We. Look, Reagan used to tell us we should trust the American people. I believe in that principle. I know President Trump does as well, and I trust him. I mean, he put together a team of his choosing and they're doing a great job. It's a very delicate subject, but we should. We should put everything out there and let the people decide it. I mean, the White House and the White House team are privy to facts that I don't know. I mean, this isn't my lane. I haven't been involved in that. But. But I agree with the sentiment that we need to. We need to put it out there. And, and, you know, Pam Bondi, I don't know when she originally made the statement, I think she was talking about documents. As I understood it, they were on her desk. I don't know that she was specific about a list or whatever, but she needs to come forward and explain that to everybody. I like Pam. I mean, I think she's done a good job. We need the DOJ focusing on the major priorities. So let's get this thing resolved so that they can deal with violent crime and public safety and election integrity and going after Act Blue and the things that the President is most concerned about as we are. So I'm anxious to get this behind.
Stephen K. Bannon
Let's get it resolved, then get to the other things. Have Maxwell testify to Congress. Also back APL and MTG on actually subpoena. Have Congress subpoena the documents. It's the lead story if we can cut it. I don't know if we have right now, but the way that the Daily Mail puts those lead stories up there, it's the lead story in the Daily Mail right now, getting a massive amount of traffic. Here's Benny hit on something and the speaker doubled down on it. It's the lack of institutional trust. This is why I made that speech and chose my words very carefully on Saturday evening at Tampa at the Student Action Summit of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point. We have to take apart the deep state this. We have an institutional problem, not simply an individual problem. You have an institutional problem. We have it in this country and it's not going away. And the more successful President Trump is at getting these things done, the institutional problems just become. They're highlighted of how they're still trying to thwart him. This is part of the situation in Ukraine, in the Middle East. Like I say, the three most powerful institutions in the city are the CIA, the Federal Reserve, centcom, Mike Lindell, I asked you to stay over, not to sell me a pillow, but your personal experience is one of literally dozens and dozens of President Trump's colleagues and people he worked with. That doesn't even include the thousands or hundreds and hundreds and thousands leading to thousands that for the January six folks. What was your experience at FBI? You're a prominent businessman, a huge philanthropic effort. You were the leader in trying to get to the election. Integrity, a revered figure for at least half the country, the MAGA movement, and they treated you like you were a common criminal. And you've never been charged for them for anything. In fact, I think tell people how they hunted you down and tried to humiliate you like they did Tina Peters when they arrested her in a coffee shop and dragged her out into the parking lot. Sir.
Benny Johnson
Right. First I'm going to, I'm going to backtrack a little bit. What, what's going on, Steve? The one of the biggest thing that surprised me, everybody, when I went all in to secure our elections and the 2020 stolen election, and I just dove into it with them going, these are deviations and anomalies in history. And I've said it before on my shows and I've said it publicly. The biggest surprise of all for me was the blockers. I call them the uniparty Republicans. You get down to give an example in Arizona, all of a sudden the head of the Senate is going to. They're going to decertify. And all of a sudden they vote and they get. It's like they get Zapped and something happened. And these are the things that don't make sense when you talk about Pam. When Pam came out a few months ago, obviously she had some. She's showing off some. Something happened we don't know about. And I think it's been. I think it's been saying, you know, instead of whatever it is, you don't just say out there was nothing when there was something. Things like this that don't make sense to us all. And here's a. And here's what they did to me specifically after one attack after another and not just by the left of the media and all this. This was our. This was. Got down. One of the biggest fight was the FBI. I'm coming back from a hunting trip with my buddy and it's noon, it's 12:30 in the afternoon and we pull into a Hardee's. And for those of you that haven't heard the story, this is bizarre. There was no one in line. I got my food. All of a sudden the car pulls in sideways in front of me. One up to the right of us and one behind us. Now realize we have guns, shotguns in the back. We're coming back from a morning duck hunting trip that's two hours from my company, where I stand right now. Now, I said to my buddy, something's going down. State. I said, something's going down. Something's happening. If any of you have read my book, I know I've been in a lot of. I've been in the streets. I've been guns to my head and swords to my throat. And I opened my door and I yelled out, I said, who are you and what do you want? These were old cars. It wasn't the FBI. Black cars that look like FBI. This is beat up undercover. You would never know that they're FBI. Looked like a bunch of gangsters. And the guy goes for FBI, Said, I don't believe you. Show me your badge. He showed me his badge. I said, how about you? I said, show me your badge. He showed me a badge. I said, what do you want? And he says, and he says, we're not going to arrest you. We just want to talk to you. Now let's frame that right there. Everybody. If this would have happened at night, I wouldn't have got out and said, let me see your badge or what do you want? I would have bashed through them and went looking for a real cop. I would have. I wouldn't have even hesitated because I was a target then. And I knew that. And I took off, but I thought it was a target of deep state bad guys, which I was not the FBI. So now we get out there and he starts asking me, there's FBI guys from Colorado, they're from Minnesota. There's like, they're like cattle out there. A bunch of, you know, there's like six of them. And they're all, yeah, we're not going to rush. We just want to ask you some questions. And my buddy is just going into this panic. I said, can he go sit down? And. And they said, yeah. And I said, I mean, I've been in situations like this, so I didn't care. I'm in their face and going, and they're asking me these questions. And I'm going. I said, no, I want to get arrested. This is what I said to him. I want to get arrested. I want to go to January 6th, that committee, even though I wasn't there. And they go, mike, those are different FBI guys. I go, I go, well, what, you know, what are you here for? They wouldn't explain it. Then they finally, I found out they're from Colorado. I said, oh, you're the guys in Colorado that ripped citizens down the steps. Mothers, their daughters down the steps. Thirteen year olds, made him stand out in the yard in their underwear. Nobody got arrested. And I said, you guys did that. And you bashed Sharona Bishop's door down with a battery ram. And the FBI goes, she didn't open her door fast enough. I said, oh, really? We're supposed to all have little egg timers. 33, 34. It was 34 seconds, according to when they. From the time they knocked it, where they bashed it down with a battering ram. Now that we go all the way through this. And then obviously this was. They were trying to make it into as the police political prisoner. Now, Tina Peters, bring it back to that. And I'm realizing this. They're asking me about my plane. Well, where. Where'd you go on your plane? What have you used your plane for? Well, I'm telling. Listen here, FBI guys, I put over 750 hours on. I wore out four pilots and flew around this country trying to secure our elections and meeting with the secretary of state's attorney generals. That's all I did for a year and a half. So I'm chewing these guys out, basically. And then they go, finally he gets to the point. He goes, well, we need to take your phone. I go, you're not getting my phone. By the way, everybody, I still don't have my Phone back. There's pictures on there of my grandkids. My father passed away after that, and I still don't have it back. But anyway, he goes, yeah, we want your phone. I said, you're not getting my phone. I want to be arrested. I wanted to get arrested because I wanted to make the news so that I could say, we got to get rid of the voting machine. It was all a thing. It was the only way I could get the word out. So, you know, maybe then it would actually get on Fox News and they would report something. So that was my thinking. Well, they go, no, we're not going to arrest you. And I said, well, you're not getting my phone. And they said, well, why don't you? I said. I said, no, we're taking your phone. I said, I want to call my lawyer. They go, no, you can't call a lawyer. I said, well, then we got a problem. Then I get my wish. You got to arrest me. You're not getting my phone. I need to call my attorney. So finally they say, okay, call your attorney. The attorney's going, give him your phone. And after he reads this thing that they had given me, this sheet, one of the things the sheet said, I'll never forget it said, now, this is part of an ongoing investigation. You have the right to tell people about this. This confiscation or this to take or this incident. But we suggest. We hope you don't, that you would reach out to the attorney general, Colorado, before you would tell the world. So I did that at night on my show. You. Everybody plug your ears. And I read that paper, told everybody. But at those FBI guys, Steve, what they. And now this is an hour and a half later. There's crowds around the Hardy parking lot. And I'm just not backing down. And I start telling myself, what's wrong with you guys? I said. I said, the one guy had read my book. I'm starting to talk about Jesus Christ and the Lord and trying to get these people. Have you read. Have you read, you know, the story? I said. And I said. And he goes. He goes, yeah. I said, and you're sitting here doing stuff against the citizens that you know is wrong. The one guy goes, mike, we're just doing our job. I go, your job? If it was your job, you could have drove to my corporate and said, hey, give me a download of my phone. And I would have gladly given it to you. I'm the most transparent person that ever walked the planet. Isn't that right, Tim Cook? You know, I Don't care. They could have got, you know. Instead you try and trap me. So maybe it's a, you know, that I did bash through. And then, boy, that one with a set, my pillow guy tries to escape. And you know, guns in the car. Who knows? We don't know. But they. But I shoot him out and for over a half hour. And finally the one FBI guy goes, mike, we gotta go. You know, he goes, I've been doing this 30 some years. I've never seen a stop like this. I said, well, I said, you know what? You haven't seen me. This is disgusting, what you're doing to citizens. I said, look at my friend there. My friend's in the car. He's still shaking to this day. Was afraid that he would. He got in trouble or something. I go, I've done nothing wrong. So, Steve, I took that case to the Supreme Court. They won't look at it. Another fine institution. Oh, we wouldn't look at it because you don't have standing. I don't have Stanny. It's my phone. It's the American. It's our freedoms. You know, nowadays it's just not taking someone you to call. Like I say, I had pictures of it, but I had other stuff on there, passwords and stuff. I couldn't get back. And I had to go redo. It runs about five businesses and. And then, and then they. We took it to the 8th, 8th court here. The 8th district or Supreme Court, Minnesota. I remember bringing it there in. I did the war room from out in the hallway. I got in trouble for doing the. Doing my hit from the hallway. But they asked the FBI, they asked their lawyers, these judges did and said, why didn't you just make a copy of his phone and why do you need the physical phone or whatever? And she wouldn't give an answer. Then they asked her, well, what's the attorney client privilege? Who's looking for that? This is our government saying, well, we look at that. So what do you look at? Say, oh, guess we shouldn't have seen that. We shouldn't have seen that. Well, obviously they've had it since September of 2020. Where is it, Steve? I thought with our new FBI guys coming in that I would get my phone back. It's pretty simple, you know, give me back my pictures. But it's not just about a phone. It's our freedoms. And here's these guys saying, oh, we're just doing our job. When you go against your moral compass, you know, I'm. Shame on you. That's the way I feel about all these blockers that are out there. And it's not just the FBI as I've been I've had CIA after me, all kinds of stuff that the I could go on and on and I would take up to hours of your show by the Institute, the government we got we got my company.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Benny Johnson
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Benny Johnson
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Stephen K. Bannon
He doesn't like. He's not a big he's, he's not a big fan of Christianity. Let's just put it at that. Thank you, Mike Lindell. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Jane zirker, we're going to do something very special when we come back from commercial break. Where were you today and what are these interviews that we're going to see that you did?
Jane Zirkel
Yeah, I spent today at the United States Congress interviewing MAGA representatives about the big beautiful bill. It was the first ever new media event that they held. It was an amazing day. Lots of reps were on the ground lots of alternative media that they've welcomed into the media circles there. And I asked them what was the biggest victory for MAGA and what was the biggest letdown for maga. And what they told me repeatedly was that the bill has been great as far as advancing President Trump's agenda, particularly when it comes to border security, but they still want to see a lot more done in terms of spending and the deficit. And so I talked to them about that. I also touched on manufacturing and infrastructure and how this is empowering American innovation and serving the American worker. Of course, that is President Trump's base, the working class American, which is what this bill really set out to incentivize as far as taxes and the economy goes to further advance the American worker and economic mobility for them.
Benny Johnson
The.
Stephen K. Bannon
We'Re going to get to that in just a second. And I'm glad that Jane did it because right now hung up. They're trying to get to the senate floor. The nine point, the $9 billion because 4 million has been cut off on the rescissions package. And we just can't. President Trump doesn't have the time to go through this time and time again. So Russ, vote and these guys, I love you guys, but we got to just go right to the. You got to go to the impoundments or pocket rescissions, take your pick. But President Trump can't be every time taken, its opportunity costs for him. And you can see the guys in the house are sitting there going, they know it. You know why they know it. You, the audience are lighting these folks up every day. Hang on for a second, Jane. These interviews are pretty amazing. Trevor Comstock, I want to make sure you get in here. I want to make sure people get access to sacred human health and can actually go the website, see what's there because folks I know that have done it are raving about it. What do you got for us today, sir?
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Trevor Comstock
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Stephen K. Bannon
Appreciate you. Great company.
Benny Johnson
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
The CEO and founder, Trevor Comstock. Thank you, brother. Jane. Where do people go? I. I love these. I love these interviews. We've actually got some more. Hopefully we'll play tomorrow. Where do people go on your social media to catch up with you, ma'?
Jane Zirkel
Am? Yeah, so I actually just posted an Instagram exclusive with Congressman Timmons of South Carolina so you can find me there. Aign Zirkel, you can also find me on x getter, YouTube and I started a Facebook page as well if you want to give that a like. And I will be posting clips from the interviews over the next few days, so be sure to check it out.
Stephen K. Bannon
Fantastic. Jane Zirkel, we let her loose on Capitol Hill. She'll be up there for a couple days. Got a lot to lot to go through. The folks down in Texas, they're now going to fight for redistricting for five new MAGA congressional districts. That's going to be a good old donnybrook. 972 patriots sign up today for Patriot Mobile. Glenn Stories, the team fighting the good fight throughout the nation. Stop giving your money to people that hate you. But the reason you should switch, it's the best mobile service around. It layers on top of all three of the big mobile services, but it's got specific services that it can turn you on to go check. To go check right now. 972pager Talk to a United States citizen that will you give you all the information. Glenn Story, the team and the folks down in Texas. Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement. Texas, I guess Florida, right. Just absolutely amazing what's happening down there. The fight of the Patriots in Texas to make sure that it's MAGA has been unbelievable and I'll be down there next week, I think late next week with Glenn Story and the team. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Just a short commercial break. Jane Z. Circle we let her loose on Capitol Hill today. Fascinating interviews about what some of your representatives say. Hey are the wins and what the work still needs to be done. Once again, Russ Fought and the team. You guys are doing a great job but man just going up and doing these rescissions just grinding it out. Billions by bands not going to work. The Senate does not want to work with you. It's obvious. Short commercial break Jane Zirkel on the other side, this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio reset. 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Benny Johnson
Right.
Jane Zirkel
I am joined by Congressman Moore. Congressman, President Trump's face is working class America. How does a big beautiful bill serve them?
Congressman Moore
This, I'll tell you, this bill helps working class America. Like no bill before. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, lowers taxes for everyone. It invests in energy production, something that's.
Stephen K. Bannon
Not talked about a lot.
Congressman Moore
You know, we, we have one of the greatest natural resources in our country with, with petroleum, with oil, with coal, with all of these things. And what we saw for four years in the Biden administration was where they were trying to make America fight with one hand tied behind our back on the international stage. But militarily, frankly, and when it comes to energy, by unleashing our energy exploration potential production, that's going to do a lot for those of you out there, not only when you pay for gas at the pump and when you pay for your power bill and all that stuff. But think about the countries where we get one from. Sometimes some of these countries don't like us. Why are we going to rely on countries like that for energy and exploration.
Stephen K. Bannon
When we have it right here in.
Congressman Moore
The US this bill does that fully funds the border work, deals with illegal immigration. I mean, it does, it finally does something toward the national debt. Now, frankly, I would like to see us then even a little bit more, even a little bit more on the national debt. But we finally are moving in the right direction. Asserts, for example, education fund funding so that parents get more ability to choose the education for their children instead of your credits. I mean, it's, there's so many, I'm, I'm forgetting probably a couple of dozen other things. Right. But it does so much to just to return freedom to people, returning money to people, and to get government out of first lives. Yeah.
Jane Zirkel
Talk to me a little bit more about how this bill empowers American manufacturing and further grows our innovation. Made in America.
Congressman I
Tell me about that.
Congressman Moore
So a lot of the tax changes are specifically going to help businesses and small businesses, allowing them to, the way they expense equipment, the way they deduct various other expenses and allow them to take that capital and infuse that back into creating more jobs. We know that techno, when it comes to manufacturing, techno, you can't, you can't just compete with countries cheap label. So you, what you have to do is you have to make your products better and you have to be more efficient. You have to use technology. This bill puts resources in to allowing that to happen as well.
Jane Zirkel
As far as American infrastructure goes, what do you want to see in terms of improving our freight rails, for example, our shipping ports. Just making America a, a hub for connectivity like we're seeing in China to compete with China.
Congressman Moore
Y. I told somebody one when we were talking about roads. We need to also say make America move again.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
Congressman Moore
For those people out there who are, who are sitting in traffic, I matter of fact I bet there are some people who will be listening to this, are gonna be stuck sitting in traffic when they're, when they're listening to this show. And it's, and it's a problem particularly in areas of the country that I like, I represent that are growing very rapidly. We need to make sure that we're putting money into improving infrastructure. Now when it comes to transportation, the folks on the west to have some different ideas. They've got ideas of, you know, unicorns and pixie dust and whatever else. I mean we need to, you know, you need to build roads. There's a, there's, there's a, there's a space for light rail for example. But at the end of the day it's about roads and then it's about when it comes to heavy transport, about rail and about having good access to ports. So those things all fit together.
Jane Zirkel
Set the record straight on healthcare because a lot of Americans are concerned what does a big beautiful bill mean for my health care coverage?
Congressman Moore
Well, so what it does. If you're someone who's disabled, right, or you're someone who has, who has a, who is like a single parent that has a child that you need to take care of and you, you don't have a job, you're going to be okay on this. If you're somebody who needs help, who cannot take care of themselves, this safety net for Medicaid is going to Stay there. But guess what? If you're somebody who's in this country illegally, if you're someone who has committed fraud in terms of getting these assets, or if you're someone who's able bodied, you're somebody who's in, you know, you're in your 20s, you don't have a dependent child at home, you could go out and work, but you just refuse to hit a lick. Then guess what you are going to get. Lose this assay at that point. Because Medicaid was never designed to be a handout to people who can take care of themselves. It's a program for the those who can't. And what's, was what's happened as a result is that a lot of the things that people who need the resources need, those people can't get access to what they truly need because there's so much waste, fraud and abuse. This bill finally addresses that.
Jane Zirkel
There's also a big focus on military and defense. How does this serve our veterans?
Congressman Moore
Oh, wow. So the amount of, you know, there were two areas that, that when we wanted to make cuts across a broad spectrum to deal with the national debt. There were two areas, however, that we wanted to increase funding. Border security and national defense. So billions of new dollars being put into national defense, both for our active duty service members, for our reservists, for our guardsmen and to help our veterans as well, those who have stepped up and offered and done so much with the call of Liberty. So it does all of that. And, and here's an interesting stat. I don't know how many of you listeners and viewers know this. China right now makes more ships in one month. In one month, More warships in one month than we do in two years.
Benny Johnson
Wow.
Congressman Moore
Think about that. All right. The amount they're producing in terms of like satellite technology, aircraft, we can't just keep letting that happen because we know their intentions are not, they're not aligned with ours. So it's very important that we, what we did in this bill and that.
Congressman J
We build on it.
Congressman Moore
One of the things that's important is a lot of folks acting like this was the only bill. Well, we know there are two more reconciliation bills in the works. So we didn't get everything we wanted to get in this. Like one of the things I really wanted to see us do is to do more on the national debt, so forth. Fortunately, we have two other reconciliation bills and after we've done the rescissions. Rescissions are the bills that are designed to rein in the wasteful spending that The Doge process helped identify putting that in place and then reining in that out of control spending, which in turn will help on our national debt.
Jane Zirkel
What is your call to action to the war room posse on those two remaining bills?
Congressman Moore
I would say, well, right now, those are still in the works right now, so, so nothing to do right this minute but stay engaged. But I'll tell you the thing I would call on folks to get out there right now and that is to help counter the fake news and the false information, particularly when it comes to like the Medicaid. You know, there's some on the left are saying, oh, all these people are going to get kicked off of Medicaid that are disabled and stuff. I mean they're, they're folks right outside this room. They'll have folks coming here, folks who are in wheelchairs and they're clearly disabled. Guess what? They are not going to lose their access to Medicaid. It's just lies. And those people are being used and being lied to by the left. And so I think it's important that folks get out there and spread the truth and talk about it. And guess what? As time goes on, a year from now, right, when we see that, you know, people who are in need of this access to this safety net, when they haven't lost it, it's going to prove that the Democrats lie.
Jane Zirkel
Well, thank you so much for your time, Congressman.
Congressman Moore
Thanks for having me on.
Jane Zirkel
The Trump base is working class America. How does a big beautiful bill serve them?
Congressman J
Well, I'll tell you this right here. President Trump campaigned about if he was elected the 47th President of America, what he will do. You think about it, we had more than 15 million illegal aliens that came into our country that has just inundated health care, education, crime. And so you start looking at it. The first thing he did is he said we're going to get the border under control. That's exactly what's happened. You look at it, he's released no people illegal into our country. The gotaways have dropped at a rate never seen before. And then you look at what he committed in this big beautiful bill. You start looking at 700 miles of border fence, you start looking at 900 miles of water barrier. We know that the fence and the water barrier works. And what we want to do is we want those that come to our country legally and those that have something to offer to our economy, our workforce. We're the most generous country that this world's ever seen. But again, 15 million is unacceptable. The American, American People have said enough is enough. And Donald Trump, another promise made, another promise kept.
Jane Zirkel
Talk to me a little bit about the investment in American innovation, especially when it comes to competing with our adversaries like China. How does a big, beautiful bill support that?
Congressman J
Well, you look at it, the big, beautiful bill brings jobs back to America. Our industrial base is set to be successful. We have a billion dollars with national security. The big thing is we can avoid most of these wars by being prepared. That's exactly what we're fixing to do. We're fixed to be sure that our clip is full. We're going to make sure that we've got the most trained and lethal war fighter this world has ever seen. But our hope is that we don't have to utilize that, but if we are called upon, that we go in there with one objective, and that is to win. So I think this bill offers that. I, I think that our industrial base will answer that challenge. You start looking at space exploration, you look at national security. All of this is in that bill. You start looking at transportation, working with the states. You look at spending, permanent tax cuts. The people of America have been taxed enough. They're ready to understand that those tax cuts that Donald Trump did as the 45th President of America, they're not temporary. They now are permanent. And the American people are better because of it.
Jane Zirkel
Speaking of transportation, how does a big, beautiful bill pull back on regulations in areas such as freight rail and shipping?
Congressman J
Well, you look at it, these dollars will be spent on everything. It includes Amtrak, freight rail. And what we've got to do is maximize this economy where we're using this to better America. We have a great truckers that are able to take it by ground, but also our rail system. And what we're doing is to be sure not only that we take people appropriately, but also that our freight is taken care of. I think this right here just shows the American people that America is back. This has been the most dynamic six months ever in the history of this Congress. There's been a lot of work, but I'll tell you this right here. Donald Trump made a profit to the people of America, and America is first again.
Jane Zirkel
You touched on defense spending a little bit. Talk to me about how this bill serves veterans and our military.
Congressman J
Well, you start looking at it, that's one of the biggest things. We gotta be sure that our veterans that have faithfully served this country are taken care of, whether it's healthcare. You start looking at MILCON dollars. These are dollars to be sure that our junior enlisted have a safe place to live when they're serving our country. Country. I'm really excited about that. You start building better accommodations for that person that's wanting to learn more about protecting our country. I think that makes us a better war fighter. And then you start looking at the technology. I come from Huntsville, Alabama, Rocket City, usa and that's what we do from we want to be sure that we have it will take less fighters, but yet a more technical war fighters. So we've seen that that will work. But you look at the people that are enlisting to serve our country now, never at a higher rate. So I think that speaks volumes to our commander in chief. But you look at the National Defense Authorization act, it shows that we're committed to the war fighter. What we're asking our contractors to do is to do it more cost effectively. We've got to be sure that we're investing in the right products, the right technology that works best for our country. And so I think that it's going to work. I think it's already worked. And I think that you start looking at other things in this big, beautiful bill. We're cutting spending. A lot of people talk at Donald Trump came in from day one and addressed the members of Congress in our caucus and just said, hey, I told you we were going to cut spending. And that's exactly what he's doing. Done, but also getting a fair playing field. These tariffs that have been charged to America for more than 50 years, where we charge zero and people are charging us 60 or 70% and I'll be honest with you, that's the thing that we're. That's being worked on right now is what's going on in Europe. And I'm thankful for the US War fighter because you think about it, without America, Europe would be speed German right now. So we're sitting here in a situation where our country is back going in the right direction. It's a big difference in what the Democrats are. They're voting against everything that we recommend. They're voting against the US War fighter. They're wanting men in the women's dressing room. That's not acceptable. From the district that I represent in north Alabama. And I just tell the people to evaluate what has happened in these last six months and are you better off today under Donald Trump or were you better off under Joe Biden and what went on those in those four years that he served as president? Our our southern border is under control. We've got it under control. And Donald Trump had a plan and has executed that. And America is better because of it.
Jane Zirkel
Big time. Big time. Well, thank you so much for your time, Congressman.
Congressman J
Thank you for having me today.
Jane Zirkel
Awesome. President Trump's face. Working class Americans. How does a big beautiful building serve them?
J
Well, a lot of that is no tax on tips, no tax on manufacturing to create jobs. Keeping the 199A deduction at the current tax level. If we wouldn't have done that, the 199A deduction which affects small businesses would have gone up by 20%. So think of your small electrical company or plumbing company and now has to pay 20% more in federal income taxes. They're gonna have to cut employees, they're gonna have to make tough decisions. It's not going to be beneficial to the economy. So all of those help the working people. None of this was situated to help billionaires. This was situated to help the working class.
Jane Zirkel
A big focus of President Trump's first term was modernization. Talk to me about how the big beautiful bill plays into innovation, particularly when it comes to manufacturing and the nation's infrastructure.
J
Well, we want to bring manufacturing back to the United States. We want to create a tax environment that is, is beneficial for businesses to do that and not offshore jobs and offshore manufacturing. We don't want our manufacturing in China, we don't want our manufacturing in Mexico. We want it here in the United States. In order to do that, we can put tax, a tax policy in place that makes it beneficial for companies to move back to the United States and have their manufacturing plants here. We saw in Covid, we don't want to be getting our medicine from outside of the country. We don't want to be getting our PPE and our medical protective equipment from outside the country. We want to be manufacturing that either just from the safety and security of the American people. But you have to create a tax environment that is beneficial for those businesses to move back. And that's what this bill does.
Jane Zirkel
Defense and national security. How does the big beautiful bill put us on the right track?
Congressman Moore
The border.
J
This delivers on all of President Trump's promises on the border. Joe Biden let 12 main illegals endure. A couple country over 400 known terrorists. It was like 50,000 Chinese Communist Party individuals, 30,000 Russians. Those people didn't come here to live the American dream. They came here to be planted in our country to cause harm. And we finally have a president that cares about the safety, security of the American people, has shut the border down and has prioritized the American people over illegal immigrants.
Jane Zirkel
Talk to me A little bit about how we are competing with China with this bill in terms of our transportation, shipping, freight, rail, etc.
J
Well, again, we want to bring car manufacturing back. We want to bring manufacturing back. We want to keep the tax base on all of our businesses and our small businesses low. Had we not done that and passed this bill, all of those tax rates would have increased dramatically, which would have enforced businesses to go to Mexico or to go to China. So we're making the United States much more competitive, competitive against China to encourage those type of industries to stay and or move back to United States.
Jane Zirkel
You are a veteran. How does this bill serve veterans, particularly when it comes to the VA and healthcare?
J
Well, the biggest thing for me is the border and the safety and security of the American people. I think that's important. I've also got a bill and possibly an amendment this week if we can get to that on making Tricare and available for all veterans. That's been a big thing for me. If you're service connected, you should be able to go anywhere you want to get the health care you need. It's called True Choice for our veterans. And I'm hopeful that this, this Congress we can do.
Jane Zirkel
Wonderful. Thank you so much, Congressman.
J
Thanks for having me.
Jane Zirkel
I just want to start by asking you, President Trump's based working class Americans, how does this bill serve them?
Congressman I
Yes, well, I represent them. I'm from a very dark rural area in Illinois. My husband and I are farmers. We raised a big family and so I know what it feels like to try to live on a budget to bear the ups and downs of agriculture. So this is huge. First of all, the tax cuts for a family of four, we'll go $13,500 in their annual paycheck extra through the big beautiful bill. And then also extending President Trump's tax cut Jobs act is very significant for the family farm. It will definitely preserve the family farm in light of us being passed on.
Benny Johnson
To the next generation. Yeah.
Jane Zirkel
Now obviously when we talk about farming, there's a big competition going on right now with China. How does this bill empower American innovation and manufacturing in terms of.
Congressman I
Well, we don't actually compete with China in production election. But are you doing in light of trade?
Jane Zirkel
Yes.
Benny Johnson
Okay.
Congressman I
Well, President Trump is. He's for America first and he's calling out these bad trade agreements where we can take advantage of and you know, I appreciate that he's going to do his best to negotiate for us. But Americans, America should be producing its own food. I know. I think it's Outrageous that we import.
Jane Zirkel
Four point.
Congressman I
Into our country. We should be producing our own. But we need to look at policies that don't drive consolidation in the ag industry by the preserve the family farm because Americans don't want corporate farming. They want to know where there's this case.
Jane Zirkel
No tax on tips was a big campaign promise. I got a lot of people excited. How does this bill roll that out and what does that look like?
Congressman I
No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, tax flight for seniors. So there's a lot of great things in there for different.
Jane Zirkel
Tell me a little bit about what it does as far as the defense industry and national security and also how does it serve our veterans?
Congressman I
Well, we put the veterans first and also giving our military cost of living increases. I've been hearing that they were having to use SNAP dollars to go buy groceries and that's we shouldn't be doing that. We should definitely be supporting our military. But President Trump is going to make.
Jane Zirkel
Sure our military care set the record straight as far as health care goes. I know a lot of people are worried about Medicaid. What does this bill entail as far as that?
Congressman I
Well, I tell people if you're an eligible recipient of Medicaid, you're your benefits are not going to get cut a dollar. Basically what we want are work requirements for able bodied people to go work 20 hours a week or enroll in a jobs training program or volunteer 20 hours a week. That's so healthy for people.
Jane Zirkel
What is your favorite part about this bill and what do you think will bring us to concession?
Congressman I
What my dad this concession. So one of my top priorities is to defund Planned Parenthood to the American people don't want to pay for elective abortions. They have billions of dollars. They give billions of dollars. They charge for their services. They are not pro choice, they're pro abortion. They support Democrats like not overwhelmingly they're using their money to support Democrats. But so I was very pleased that the funding for elective abortions was cut off for one year. But of course I would have preferred the 10 year which is what we passed out of the House. And then also I hate the green scam. Where I live is highly productive farm ground, class A and class B farm ground. And they're covering it with solar panels and windmills, Chinese solar panels and windmills, that it's unaffordable and it's unreliable energy. So I'm glad that we were able to repeal a lot of the money in the green scale.
Benny Johnson
Wonderful.
Jane Zirkel
Well, thank you so much for your time. So the big beautiful bill gives the government more flexibility on budget.
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WarRoom Battleground EP 808: Johnson Calls For Release OF Epstein Files
Released on July 15, 2025
Introduction
In Episode 808 of WarRoom Battleground, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon of WarRoom.org, the discussion centers around the highly contentious Epstein files and the broader implications for government transparency and institutional trust. The episode features prominent voices including Benny Johnson, Mike Lindell, Congressman Moore, and others who delve into the intricacies of political accountability, legislative actions, and personal experiences with federal agencies.
1. The Epstein Files and Government Transparency
Timestamp: [00:11] - [06:56]
The episode opens with Benny Johnson and Mike Lindell addressing the growing public demand for transparency regarding Jeffrey Epstein's files. Benny Johnson raises critical questions about whether key political figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Anna Paulina Luna support subpoenaing Epstein documents from the Department of Justice (DOJ).
Notable Quote:
Speaker Johnson [00:30]: "A question here about it that concerns either testifying or testimony for Ghislaine Maxwell potentially before Congress... whether you would support members like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Anna Paulina Luna on the release of subpoenaing the Epstein documents from the DOJ."
Mike Lindell emphasizes the need for transparency, aligning with President Trump's trust in the American people and advocating for the release of all relevant information to allow public judgment.
Notable Quote:
Mike Lindell [01:21]: "We're for transparency... we should put everything out there and let the people decide it."
2. Stephen Bannon on the Deep State and Institutional Trust
Timestamp: [01:56] - [09:12]
Stephen K. Bannon passionately critiques what he refers to as a "dying regime" and the pervasive influence of the deep state. He argues that entrenched institutions like the CIA, Federal Reserve, and CENTCOM are actively undermining President Trump’s agenda.
Notable Quote:
Stephen K. Bannon [02:19]: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime... The deep state... we have an institutional problem, not simply an individual problem."
Bannon underscores the necessity of exposing deep state activities to restore trust and ensure the success of President Trump's initiatives.
3. Mike Lindell’s Confrontation with Federal Authorities
Timestamp: [05:08] - [18:31]
Mike Lindell shares a personal and harrowing experience involving an encounter with individuals he believed to be FBI agents. Lindell narrates how he and a companion were confronted outside a restaurant, leading to a tense standoff over the seizure of his phone. This incident, laden with accusations of government overreach, highlights the tension between federal authorities and public figures advocating for transparency.
Notable Quote:
Mike Lindell [05:28]: "I have been in situations like this, so I didn't care... I'm in their face and they're asking me these questions."
Lindell's account emphasizes his distrust of federal agencies and his commitment to fighting what he perceives as unjust governmental actions.
4. Legislative Insights: Interview with Congressman Moore
Timestamp: [31:28] - [51:47]
The latter half of the episode features an in-depth interview with Congressman Moore, who discusses the "Big Beautiful Bill" – a legislative package aimed at supporting working-class Americans, enhancing border security, boosting manufacturing, and strengthening national defense.
Key Topics Discussed:
Support for Working-Class Americans:
Congressman Moore outlines how the bill provides tax cuts, invests in energy production, and creates jobs, particularly benefiting small businesses and the agricultural sector.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [31:37]: "This bill helps working-class America... no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, lowers taxes for everyone."
Border Security and Illegal Immigration:
Emphasizing the importance of controlling illegal immigration, Moore highlights the allocation of funds towards building border infrastructure and reducing unlawful entries.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [34:14]: "This bill delivers on all of President Trump's promises on the border... 700 miles of border fence, 900 miles of water barrier."
Empowering American Manufacturing and Innovation:
The bill aims to revitalize American manufacturing by creating favorable tax environments, reducing reliance on foreign imports, and fostering technological advancements.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [46:50]: "We want to bring manufacturing back to the United States... create a tax environment that is beneficial for businesses to do that and not offshore jobs."
Healthcare and Medicaid Reforms:
Addressing concerns about Medicaid, Moore clarifies that the bill protects benefits for those in need while introducing work requirements for able-bodied individuals to reduce fraud and abuse.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [35:05]: "If you're someone who needs help, who cannot take care of themselves, this safety net for Medicaid is going to stay there."
Defense and National Security:
Significant investment in national defense ensures that the U.S. remains prepared to address global threats, with a focus on modernizing military capabilities and supporting veterans.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [36:13]: "Billions of new dollars being put into national defense... making sure we've got the most trained and lethal warfighters."
Call to Action:
Congressman Moore urges listeners to stay engaged with legislative processes and counter misinformation, particularly concerning Medicaid.
Notable Quote:
Congressman Moore [37:59]: "Stay engaged... help counter the fake news and the false information."
Conclusion
Episode 808 of WarRoom Battleground effectively highlights the intersection of political accountability, legislative action, and personal narratives in the context of the Epstein files and broader government transparency. Through robust discussions and firsthand accounts, the episode underscores the ongoing struggle between reformist agendas and entrenched institutional powers. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, engage with legislative developments, and advocate for transparency and accountability within federal institutions.
Key Takeaways:
Note: Advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections within the transcript have been excluded from this summary to maintain focus on the substantive discussions.