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WarRoom Battleground EP 809: French Bishop Names As Diocesan Chancellor A Priest Jailed For 4 Years For Raping 16 Year Old Boy
WarRoom Battleground EP 809: French Bishop Names As Diocesan Chancellor A Priest Jailed For 4 Years For Raping 16 Year Old Boy...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Ben Harnwell
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
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Ben Harnwell
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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Ben Harnwell
If that answer is to save my.
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Steve Bannon
Country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Ben Harnwell
Good evening. Wednesday, 16th of July, Anno Domini 2025. Got a packed show coming up today. What are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about the Catholic tradition of venerating the incorruptible saints. Those are saints that have died, they may not be formally canonized, but their bodies have not decayed after their death. We'll be touching that. We'll be touching the fact that the Bishop of San Bernardino has dispensed the illegals in his diocese from having to go to mass on Sunday. Lots that tells you about the current psychology of the Leo Church in that we'll be hitting that towards the end of the show. And we've also got, as we promised last week, this horrific story about the French Archbishop in Toulouse who was just appointed as his diocesan chancellor. A priest who was sentenced to five years in prison for raping a 16 year old boy. But first, very delighted and honored that that Brandon Showalter from the Christian Post has taken from his zipping across the United States of America to join us today. He spoke at the Federal Trade Commission last week at this conference which we mentioned on the show. And I have to say it's quite genius to start deconstructing the practice of gender affirming care effectively from this trade dynamic of what would be, I suppose, the American equivalent of the Trade Descriptions Act. Because it's not what's in the tin is not what's on the label. Brendan, before we come to you, tell us a bit about this. Let's just have your a quick extract of what you said at this conference.
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Brandon Showalter
For this event today. The injuries are incredibly brutal. I've seen things that have put gray hair in my black hair and it is, it's just you'll age pretty fast. You don't want to see the Kinds of things that I see in my inbox and I hear from parents about what has happened to their children. And I'll say when we talk about unfairness and deceptive trade practices, because it is based on an irretrievably flawed premise that it's actually possible to be born in the wrong body, any medical treatment toward that end is going to do damage, guaranteed, full stop. Because it starts with a lie. That's just it.
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Ben Harnwell
Brandon Showwater, this is pretty strong stuff that you were saying, and I know you're going to come on the show now, and I have to give an alert, probably the nearest to a trigger warning that we're ever going to do on the War Room. What follows, what Brandon's going to expose here is what he said to the FTC conference last week. It's pretty horrific listening, so I'd say viewer discretion advised. If you're parents with small kids around here, Brandon, it's not often that panelists at a Federal Trade Commission workshop are reduced to tears, but that is what happened last week. Tell us a bit then. You've got some case study examples here. Tell us. Why don't you open with those, Tell us some, some of the cases that you were discussing there, and then we'll break this down as part of the FTC's wider break, sort of deconstruction of what's going on here.
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Brandon Showalter
Yes, it was a great FTC panel workshop where they are tackling unjust and unfair trade practices and they're specifically zeroing in on the medicalization of gender in children. And because it begins with a lie, as I just said there in that clip, it does damage. And I mentioned three, three injuries that I saw that I've reported on or seen on the front lines in the near nine years that I've been doing this journalistic work. One was a poor man who went into his. His appointment. He was believed and convinced that he was so supposedly transgender, went the full trans path, got his testicles amputated, took the hormones, just full bore into that awful surgery. And of course he regrets it. Soon thereafter, they cut his testicles off for $1,000. He winds up with.
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Ben Harnwell
I think we've got a quick issue here with Brandon, a technical issue. He is there out on the the road while we try and reconnect, get Brandon reconnected. Let's go to Frank Walker, who's standing by in the wings. Frank, you've got this story today. I noticed you pushed it out on Canon 212 as well. Absolutely horrific. This is a Story about the French Archbishop of Toulouse who has appointed as the, as the chancellor of the diocese, a priest who spent four years sentenced to five, four years in prison for repeated rapes over a two year period back in 93, 94 of a 16 year old boy. His defense was that he was taking the side of mercy. And I just note, Frank in passing before handing over to you, this guy is actually a Bergoglio appointment to toulouse back in 2021. Interesting there, I think to see mercy being so misused by this French archbishop, much in the same way that the concept of mercy had been perpetually misused by Bergoglio stage name Pope Francis himself, right throughout his, his 12 year pontificate. Frank, tell me, what were the first things that struck you about this story? Why do you think it's so horrific?
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Frank Walker
Well, I think that the. Thanks, Ben. I think that the, the way that it was handled by the Archbishop is which I have a picture of him up there from last week at Canon 212, hang gliding in tandem with someone, with a friend of his. You know, he doesn't look like a serious guy, but the way he handled it, he just seems to have no sense whatsoever of the people that are involved, of the, of the parishioners, of what propriety, of what people would think about this. He's handled it so poorly that people are just saying what in the world is going on with the church? You know, he doesn't seem to be the least bit sorry about how he handled it. And he says, and rightly so, he says, we sent all the paperwork to Rome, we handled everything, we followed all the procedures. You know, we have procedures. I went, I've met with lots of victims and I've wept with them. See, but the mercy like you mentioned is so important and it makes you think, is there a wider push in the new church, the Francis Church, Leo's Church, to try to create a different way of looking at these kinds of situations. Because you know, if you go back, it really extends more beyond this bishop in Toulouse because he just, he was only there a couple years. Francis put him in there. But the bishop before him had made this priest the vice chancellor. The chancellor at a diocese is important. He handles cases, he handles marriage, marriage cases, he penalizes, he handles penalties. He's sort of, sort of very, works very closely with the bishop, but he was already vice chancellor when he was there before. But going back when this happened, when he first was out of prison, they put him in a parish and they had him working with children and then they Moved him from that and after an outcry then into the ark, the Vatican archive, I mean the archives at the diocese for a few years.
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Ben Harnwell
That's absolutely true, Frank. This is the, the, the big WTF moment for me in doing my research on this story was that immediately after this priest, Father Spina, had been released from prison, and I repeat this, release from prison after being sentenced to five years for multiple rapes over a two year period of a 16 year old boy, the diocese of Toulouse puts him in charge of children's ministry.
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Frank Walker
That's right, right.
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Ben Harnwell
That, that is, I'm just, that is, I'm not embellishing that. That is exactly what they did. They took a guy who's just been in prison for four years for raping, repeatedly raping a 16 year old boy. The moment he's released from prison, the Catholic Church puts him in charge of children's ministry. Frank, when I was looking at this, the first question I had had is what complement does this guy hold on relative bishops or cardinals in France or possibly even in the Vatican to be able to pull off that kind of maneuver? The first thing I thought when I saw this was that, you know, it's sort of. Jeffrey Epstein, perhaps on, on a smaller scale. There is no logic. Frank Walker, you tell me you studied these things in the Catholic Church for 30 years. You tell me there is no logic on God's green earth where you can take a guy fresh out of prison for repeatedly raping a 60 year old boy and put him in charge of children's ministry.
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Frank Walker
Not unless it's a systemic problem. I mean, the fact that Rome handled it so poorly in these articles that you presented here, they didn't treat it. I mean, he forced himself on this 16 year old boy. And he was not considered a minor by canon law at the time, now it's 18. But still he should have been laicized by Rome. And that did not happen. And I remember reading before these charges even happened. And by the way, the boy that he, the man, well, he became a man that he molested. The boy that he molested entered the seminary and that's when it started to become well known. But before this priest, Father Spina, was in these positions, he was the vocations director at the diocese. That means that anybody that wanted to be a priest had to come through him. He was the screener. And this isn't the first time that I've seen this happen in dioceses. And in these stories in dioceses all over the world, men like this are deciding who could become a priest and who, and who doesn't get to be a priest. So it's just a network of lavender mafia and they're all afraid of each other. And I think the reason why this guy gets to do what he does and gets pushed up is because he's got the goods on everybody and they, and they're all afraid of him. And even in Rome it's amazing what this bishop has said about this situation because I think Francis whole new theology of mercy has a lot to do with this. His whole looking at the way they're welcoming homosexual lifestyle and blessing them and making it a formality. This is all tied together. The bishop said it's our absolute duty to do everything possible to ensure that the victim is recognized and supported in their life journey. They must move forward to rebuild by discovering that they are not primarily or solely a victim. Even though these wounds cause lifelong pain. And I have wept with them. I think that we can can say that Father Spina today if we believe as a Christian faith and simple humanity invite us to do that. A person's conversion is possible. Decaramal wrote it is impossible to show mercy to a priest who sinned gravely 30 years ago. Is it possible who has since demonstrated self sacrifice and integrity in the service of his relationship to superiors and fellow priests.
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Ben Harnwell
I can't hear. I can't take any more of this. I can't take. I, I don't want to do Steve Bannon. I, I can't take any more of this is just pure humbug. You can't take a guy out of prison for repeatedly raping a 16 year old boy and put them in charge of children's ministry. This guy has compliment. I would almost go to the line on this and say this guy has got, as you say, got into children's ministry. Got into vocations directors. No one in a diocese that has his hands more on late teenagers, male youth and the vocations director guiding them towards ordination. We could. Perhaps we should talk about this for the whole hour. Sadly we don't have time to. But Frank and I know that we've got Brandon Showalter back online. Now before we go over to him, you said something there that is so, so important and it really indicates the crisis that the Catholic Church has been in since, especially since the Second Vatican Council. And this is the fact that, that the aforementioned vocations directors right across the diocese, across the world have implemented basically for 60 years a policy of screening out young chaps that actually have Catholic vocations because they're called too rigid. That they've been screened out and turned down for the peace hood because they're considered to be too conservative. Too rigid. I mean, that's the actual word they use. And bringing in sexual deviance. And we've seen, we've seen the absolute wasteland of the Catholic Church that has resulted from that because basically perhaps 1 or 2 in 100 priests these days, parish priests, are any good. The rest are deeply subversive against the Catholic faith. And that is a crisis that is, that is has been institutionalized deliberately and put in the hands of vocation, vocations directors. And there's more work to be done uncovering that. Frank Walker. Hold on. We'll come back to you in just a few minutes. Let me quickly do an ad read and then we'll go to Brandon Showalter. Okay, I'll start off with this. This July, there's a global summit is taking place right now of brics. This week, nations in Rio de Janeiro, the bloc of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Iran are meeting with the goal of displacing the US dollar as the global currency. This they are calling the Rio Reset. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA in precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting Bannon B A N O N to 989898. That's Bannon B A double N to 989898 and a quick shout out to Patriot Mobile, patriotmobile.com Bannon again. B A double N O N. Or call 972 Patriot to discuss a three months service. Okay, Brandon, I think we've got you back online. Tell us more if you wouldn't mind, about these horrific instances, these case studies of the biological vandalism that has been perpetrated against America's youth.
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Brandon Showalter
Yes, thank you, Ben. And apologies for the technical difficulties earlier, but yes, the case studies that I mentioned at the Federal Trade Commission were the following. I interviewed a man who underwent castration and that poor guy wound up with severe suicidal ideation, severe endocrine complications. And again, this isn't safe for little ears. He wound up ejaculating blood. Another woman I mentioned at the ftc, I saw her on Instagram. She had a phalloplasty surgery where they harvest forearm tissue to make a fake penis and then they so badly mangled her in other regions, butchered it. She had to have, I think close to 30 or more revision corrective surgeries. And it was to the point where she had to urinate out of her anus into an ileostomy bag. There are other injuries. You know, we even some other detransitioners were there at the FTC. One girl as young as 13, just a few weeks after she turned 13, doctors amputated her breasts. Another girl who was 14 and she later appeared on Laura Ingram, 14 years old, she's double mastectomy. There was also a young man there who had been castrated. I mean, what we have allowed to happen to America's youth and young adults under the banner of so called gender affirming care is an absolute and total disgrace. It's one of the worst medical scandals, one of the worst child abuse scandals the world has ever seen. And worst, worst of all, it's been baked into all of our institutions. And so, in my opinion, Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew Ferguson and the other commissioners are to be applauded and commended for taking a look at the deceptive and misleading, fraudulent diagnoses and other commercial practices that market this insane medical barbarism as health care to families and to youth. And so that was in keeping the Federal Trade Commission's action was in keeping with President Trump's January 28th executive order decrying gender affirming care, as in the chemical sterilization and surgical mutilation of children, as a stain on our nation's history, and it must end. So it was a watershed day at the Federal Trade Commission last week, and I was honored to be among the speakers who were there presenting. And it was receipt after receipt, evidence after evidence. Clearly, if the FTC can do anything under the FTC Act Section 5, which is their scope of authority, I think we can be expecting some, some executive agency action. And even the Department of Justice's chief of staff, Chad Meisel, was there speaking, proctoring a panel, and he announced that approximately 20 subpoenas had been issued against these transgender clinics. And so the Trump administration is clearly moving against this medical barbarism, and it's a most welcome sign.
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Ben Harnwell
And from the FTC perspective, it is important, I think, to drill down on that point that you were making in the extract, the conference extract that we had at the beginning. Basically, it's not gender. What they're offering is simply not gender affirming care. That's why you're drilling down on these biological horror stories of what results. It's not safe, it's not secure. And it does fundamentally, it doesn't change a person's gender because it can't. Look, there's this one thing I want to ask you. Right, There are many things I want to ask you. There's one thing I have time to ask you, one of the panelists there. And this, I think is something that all American parents should be aware of. There was one guy there, Gareth Amaya Price, who mentions explicitly that he feared that the psychiatrist who was talking to his son who transitioned, but not in a permanent biological way. It was just, I, I don't want to use the brutal term transvestitism, period. But then he, he, he transitioned back to being a guy. But the father here, in speaking to the psychiatrist, he said that his fear was that the medical community would have his son confiscated from him by Child Protective Services because of his reluctance to affirm transgender procedures. And what the psychiatrist was basically saying to him was that, look, you can either have a living daughter or a dead son. You choice, you choose. And this, Brandon, this isn't, this wasn't a one off strong arm strategies. This is something that the trans lobbyist within the medical community is doing again and again and again to parents.
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Brandon Showalter
It's the most vile emotional blackmail. Ben, that is, you want to talk about consumer fraud and a deceptive practice. What, what on earth grants a professional to intimidate and fraudulently mislead a, a patient or a customer, saying that if you don't allow this, if you don't go forward with this, you're going to wind up with a dead child? I mean, how in the world is that, is that a legitimate consumer practice? And a lot of the detractors in the media, and I've seen coverage of this, you know, people who are poo, pooing this, it's like this is not within the FTC scope of authority. This is violating the doctor patient relationships that when you're pushing products, when you're pushing medical services and hormones and breast binders and all of these other accoutrements that come with that come with sort of the transgender space. You absolutely are engaged in consumer fraud and deceptive trade practices because I don't know of a single other context where you are told that you have to go through with this or you're going to have a dead child. It's, it's one of the, it, like I say, it's vile emotional blackmail. Parents are intimidated. And yes, you're correct. Especially in blue states, Family court judges and other officers of courts are trained by gender activists in these clinics to coerce parents strong arm parents into going along with this. It's one of those. I mean, I said this in my remarks, too. Parents have been living inside of a straight jacket of silence for fear of losing their children. And especially sometimes there's opposition within their own families and communities. It's one of the most hidden nightmares that our society is enduring. And I just can't be grateful enough to the Federal Trade Commission for giving seven and a half hours of platform time to, to the most unequivocal truth tellers in the medical field, journalists, lawyers, other people who have been screaming bloody murder for years. It was truly a watershed day. And again, I am looking forward to seeing what kind of other federal, federal agency action takes place to end this barbarism. This really is a stain on our nation's history and it can't end soon enough.
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Ben Harnwell
Brandon Showalter, thank you. Look, you're too modest to say, to say this, but I know that you were, you were involved behind the scenes quite heavily in putting this conference together. Very grateful for you coming on and giving, giving your first person account of what you said and why you were putting this thing together. We'll catch up with you again, God willing, next Wednesday as we break through the news, all the news in the Christian world together. Just in the meantime, where do people go to follow your writings on the Christian Post and also your own podcast of Generation Indoctrination?
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Brandon Showalter
Yes, I probably won't be able to be with you next week because I'll be out of town, out of commission, but I look forward to talking with you again soon. You can catch all of my writings@christianpost.com my byline, generationindoctrination.com is the landing page for our documentary podcast called Generation Indoctrination. We just launched the first episode of the fifth season and we'll be having a second episode come out probably next week. I would also urge everyone to check out the deadname documentary@deadname documentary.com that's also on Amazon prime. And you can follow me on X randonmshow.
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Ben Harnwell
Brandon, many thanks indeed and I wish you safe travels across America as you're spreading the gospel as you do constantly. Catch up with you soon. God bless. For now. Thank you. Thank you, Brandon. In the final two minutes of this half, I just want to cut quickly over to Jenny Holland. Jenny, you're a parent of what's your reaction on what you were just listening to?
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Jenny Holland
Well, first I want to commend Brandon and also the FTC for exposing this barbaric practice. It does remind me a little bit of how they got Al Capone on tax evasion charges. But I will take it because what should have happened is the pediatric, the pediatricians and the medical professionals and the curriculum writers should never have ever gone anywhere near this in the first place. It's the biggest medical scandal of our time and it has some stiff competition, as you well know. And the, the utter horror of what has been done to these children. And I've been following this for quite a few years now and I was still like gasped at what Brandon just said on the air there. What happened to these poor young people who were so viciously misled? I mean, I think it's really, really important to say something about how this all came about, especially given our topics that we always cover on Wednesdays. You can draw a direct line from secular humanism to this horror show. And I know that is going to sound like an absolutely wild claim to many people who are still in the throes of sort of idealization of secular humanism because we have all been propagandized to or even indoctrinated to believe that secular humanism was solely and 100% a benign thing that liberated us from some sort of superstitious darkness. But that's actually not the case. And there this is what happens. This is the end result. When you say that you are the only person in charge and you can do what you want, we end up with what Mary Harrington called people as meat Legos.
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Ben Harnwell
That's basically the tragic situation where we are at the moment. Jenny Standby just after the break, you're going to come back and tell us some of your details of traveling of what you've been covering. Eagle eyed viewers will notice that Jenny's not in her her normal abode. Stay tuned and find out exactly where she's been. Back in two minutes.
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Frank Walker
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Ben Harnwell
Welcome back. Well, as I was saying at the beginning of the show, the Catholic Church has about a hundred or so incorruptibles, as we call them, capital I incorruptibles. These are people, not all of them are canonized saints, but these are people who for one reason or another, that their motives are always open to theological discussion and analysis. But These are about 100 or so people in the 2000 year history of the Catholic Church who after they've died, haven't corrupted their bodies, are more or less preserved. Now, the degree of incorruptibility varies from one case to another. And the Catholic Church is about to canonize its latest incorruptible. And that's Pier Giorgio Frassati, who lived and died up in Piemonte, up in the north, the northwest of the Italian peninsula. And the War Rooms International Bureau. The War Room International Bureau's intrepid, Jenny Holland has been out there. Jenny, that's where you are right now. That's why your background is not your usual background. You are in the Bel Paese. Tell me, tell us. I'll ask Denver to perhaps play in the background some of the footage that you took directly when you were up there in Turin. Tell us a bit about what you saw there. And who is Pier Giorgio Frassati?
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Jenny Holland
Sure. Yes. Hello from sunny Italy. GiorGiorgio Frassati was a young man who lived and died, as you said, in Turin in the first two decades of the 20th century. And he was the son of a wealthy bourgeois family. His father was the owner and the founder of La Stampa newspaper, which exists to this day. And his mother was an artistic, creative soul. And he grew up in in a time of great tumult, politically, historically, socially, with in a place Turin, which was becoming sort of an industrial capital. Of course, it's now famous as the home of Fiat cars and lots of other Italian, iconic Italian products. And of course, the industrialization led to a lot of political unrest and the development of a large working class that was poor and overlooked. And as this young man was growing up, despite his wealthy family. He took great care to help the poor and those in need. He was a very keen mountaineer and just an all around good guy. He died very young, some say of polio, some say of pneumonia, possibly contracted whilst tending to these poor families in the city. And since then, since he died in 1925, it is said that his body has not decayed. Now his body is in, entombed in the cathedral in Turin. But he, when I went to visit it, it was not visible. So. But there's multiple reports of the tomb being opened and he, his, his, his body is intact. All these many 100 years after the fact. That's his grave there that you're seeing. That's his tomb in the cathedral. So on Ben's suggestion, I went to a tour. I did a tour of, in sort of a museum in his honor. And the images you saw of him, the black and white photo of him climbing atop the mountain and the writing on the wall, the illuminated writing on the wall was the, I suppose the Diocese of Turin's exhibition on this young extraordinary young man and why he should become a saint. And I found it very interesting because the hour long tour didn't mention his corruptible, his incorruptible state one single time and instead focused on things like his generosity, his joyfulness, that he was good to his friends and that he was good to the poor. And that's great, but that's what we call in the news business, burying the lead. The, the, the fact that this person, and it is confirmed. I mean, you know, it's not, it's, it's not a conspiracy theory that this body has not decayed. I mean that has been verified, you know, as to why, like you say, that's a theological discussion, but it isn't fully decayed. Instead of leading with that and, and proclaiming that as this incredible miracle which defies any material explanation whatsoever, they went with a much more insipid, you know, in their, in, in the, you know, the leaderships of the leadership of the church, Infinite wisdom. They go with a much more insipid sort of feel good story about this young man who liked to climb mountains and who gave his bus fare to the poor. Now I personally think that this is not at all in keeping with the strange phenomena that is driving people, young people especially into the arms of traditional Catholicism. And that is they are fleeing from the horrors of the material, modern secular world. That the kinds of things that Brandon was just speaking about. And they're very open and curious and receptive to the possibility of miraculous events. I personally find it hard to believe them myself, being an atheist and being. Having been raised in a purely secular world. But I would strongly want to know more about them. And I would, I would be, I am curious and I want to be told these stories. Fundamentally, the human race needs to be told these stories of miracles and wondrous events for our own sanity. It's, it's really part of our, A fundamental need of mankind, I think, you.
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Ben Harnwell
Know, you, you, you point out that you yourself are an atheist from a Christian perspective. And of course there's no obligation even on Catholics to accept the claims that are scientifically proven in many of these cases that someone is incorruptible after their death. But from a Christian perspective, once you start off and you have at the center of your religious life the belief that a person, Jesus Christ, could raise himself from the dead by his own power, Once you accept that, then basically anything which is attributed to being a miracle extends out of the faith. I don't think I can be dismissed out of hand. Doesn't mean that everything that claims, that is claimed to be a miracle is miraculous. But once you say, yes, I believe that a person can raise themselves, raise themselves from the dead by their own power, everything else is at least within, I think, the realms of acceptability. Let me bring Frank Walker in now. Frank, what do you think? Jenny's out there in terms she's, she's been there, took her family out to see this astonishing thing. What conclusion do you draw from the fact that here is the institutional Catholic Church which seems ever so slightly ashamed and embarrassed about the supernatural events that have stretched out from the consequence of faithful, heroic, faithful life. I mean, it's not as if there aren't miracles. I mean, there are miracles associated with this guy Frasati, because if there weren't, they wouldn't be canonizing him. Just give me a quick two minutes. Why the hesitation? Why the sense of reluctance even to mention the fact that this guy is incorruptible?
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Frank Walker
I think it shows what their priorities are. And I have to say, I mean that the whole saint making process in the current era I'm a little suspicious of because they seem to choose saints that fit politically and to create some sort of propaganda effect. And that's what she's seeing here is you have a saint who may to some extent be incorruptible. There's many ways to be incorruptible. What I read about this in this case is it has to be not what you would naturally Expect like for instance, St. Clair from 800 years ago. Her body looks very decayed, but not that much. It's not the bones that it would normally have been. So it's miraculous, they say, but they care about the politics. That's why they didn't mention this. They're ashamed of the fact that the teaching of the Church and that there may be something miraculous. I don't know what other miracle, I can't remember. There's another miracle that they're promoting, associated with this guy. But I know that they've been pushing this cause for many years now. So it goes back to when things were a little bit more reliable, but they're not interested in that. It's just like with Carlo acutis, the young 15 year old that died. And they're really, really marketing him so well. I mean, they have him dressed up in his jogging suit and everything and they want all the teenagers to look up to him. It's more the message that they want to make that they're interested in not so much anything miraculous that's happened.
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Ben Harnwell
In fact, if I understand things correctly, now they're doing a double canonization at the same event on the same day of Carlo Acutis and Pier Giorgio Frassat. I think they're doing them together. And you're right, you know, you're right. I'm not aware that. It's not as if they've been pushing heavily the miracles for the. For the Protestants that are following us. The convention is. And this has been the convention of the Saint factory for the last 550. 500 years, 250 years from the second, from the council of Trent onwards, is that to formally canonize somebody there are now required two miracles, right? One for beatification, one for canonization. Though the process has been. I know what you're going to say, Frank. The process has been debased somewhat in recent. Recent decades. They've abolished the devil's advocate who formally argued against canonization. But normally they push the miracle sides, the miracles due to the intercession quite heavily. And I'm not aware, I'm not aware of what it was. I think. I think when they can, when they so called canonized John Paul ii, it was basically some nun with a sore throat walked past a picture of him soaking a cough, a cough, a cough pill, a cough pastel, and miraculously the cough went away there. Ergo, canonizer, canonization, Santosubito. The situation is debased. The situation has been massively debased. And it really Started with John Paul ii, folks. Look, Frank, stay with us. We're gonna come back to on, on these themes in just a couple of minutes. I want to say the miraculous, the miraculous intercession story which always gets me is Padre Pio who. And this wasn't even an intercession post death. This is why he was still alive. And there was a young girl called Chiara who's born blind. Born blind. She didn't even have pupils just like white. Padre Pio pray to her obviously in the name of Jesus Christ for healing. From that moment on she, she could see. I think she became, I think she's still alive even. And she became a religious sister. And the mind blowing thing folks is to this day that girl still doesn't have any pupils. And more, you know, miraculous miracles are always difficult to explain but that one is just absolutely mind blowing. Okay folks, let's just have a quick. I'll finish off with the ad reads now for Birch Gold and then we're going to come back to Frank Walker. As the BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease bringing down the value of the dollars in your savings. While this transition won't happen overnight, the Rio reset taking place right now over the last week in these days itself mark a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from theoretical possibility toward inevitable reality. With an A rating, with a Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers, let Birch Gold arm you with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon B A N O N to 989-898 that's Bannon B A N O N 989-898 and what if you had one of the brightest minds in the war room delivering critical financial research? Every month I go to geopolitical expert Jim Rickards, former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor has been warning Americans about about an AI triggered financial crash. In his book Money GPT Rickards warns that unsupervised AI trading systems could unleash an AI doom loop triggering lightning fast bank runs and market meltdowns. So right now War Room members can get a free copy of Money GPT when they subscribe to Strategic Intelligence Gyms flagship financial newsletter. Go to ricards war room.com and claim your free book. That's Ricard's war room dot com. Okay Frank, stay with us now because you are going to tell us what's happened. I think some Bernardino's in California. You're going to tell us what Happened what their bishop did just a couple of days ago, dispensing the illegal alien invaders from their Sunday obligation of going to Mass. Let's not forget, folks, this comes from the Third Commandment. The third. You know, I know Catholics, Protestants, Jews have different ways of order, ordering the. The 16 or so commandments in the Old Testament into 10 formal categories. But let's go for the Catholics say it's the third Commandment, thou shalt keep the Sabbath holy. Frank, tell me how. What was the justification of this bishop of San Bernardino to overwrite one of the ten Commandments? Because as the Jews like to say, if God were really a permissive liberal, he would have given us the 10 suggestions.
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Frank Walker
That's right. It's very important. And I apologize, I didn't see that. Your notes that ahead of time. I don't work my phone very well, but I've been following this story at canon 212, and I was shocked when I first saw it, but I was not, I'm not completely surprised. It's a progress, a movement beyond what they did with the virus, with the pandemic. Because when they close all those churches for the pandemic, nobody is ever going to forget that. And they tried to tell us that this happened maybe 100 years ago, but it really was like in a very small case in one local place and just for a short time was nothing like what they did to us. And it was so unnecessary because it destroys the faith of the people. And they lost so many people that were going to Mass because they knew that they were obliged to be there at Sunday Mass, Catholics, and that they were somehow being used for this enormous Covid. I call it a scandemic. They were being used. And that's what's happening here. This is a new level of using people, you know, just like we were talking about with saints and using saints and using new, new people, making new saints in order to move people and twist their minds. They're using the faithful Catholics for political purposes here. They're creating it, trying to create. It's a stunt is what is. They're trying to create this situation where everybody's so terrified they can't even go to Mass and they're letting them out of Mass and it's, it's just a. It's just a way to hit Trump on his, on his deport deportations and his, his immigration policy. That's all it is.
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Ben Harnwell
Let me just throw this at you. Catholic leaders across the country say they're witnessing steep decreases in Mass attendance in response to immigration actions taken by the Trump administration. It's all there. Everything in the the Novus Ordo Catholic Church is total prostitution. It's all there because ordinary Americans increasingly don't want, don't want the project that the Novus Ordo Catholic Church is offering. So to keep the money coming in, to keep the, the flow on the pews going, they're, they're conniving and making money out of the importation into the United States of huge numbers of people. Look, sadly, that is all the time we have for today. Frank Walker where do people go for Canon 212 and stumbling boxes? Keep up with your daily analysis.
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Frank Walker
Thank you. Canon 212 c a n o n 1 n 212 and put it in your address bar because I just got another note today they're having trouble finding it on Google and on DuckDuckGo and other other sites just in the last month and Stumbling Block or at Rumble you can see the Daily Update and at gloria tv the twitter is canon212.
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Ben Harnwell
All spelled out And I always points out folks that Canon 212 is suffering right now algorithmic suppression at the hands of the evil Google regime. So you will need to type it out in full. They don't want Google and our technocratic overlords don't want you going there to the truth. Frank, I'll ask you if you wouldn't mind putting up the links of some of the things that we discussed today on your website. I very strongly recommend people to check it out every day as I do myself. Frank, thanks very much. Catch up with you next week. God bless for now. Thank you Jenny. Jenny Holland where do people go to keep up with you and your profile on social media?
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Jenny Holland
So my sub stack is jennyeholland.substack.com and I'm on X@semper femina21.
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Ben Harnwell
That's great and I'm very grateful that you you took time out of your visit to Italy to come on the show and give us this breakdown. I think it's an absolutely amazing story and the whole phenomenon to do with the incorruptibles and the stories behind it. I think it's a great opportunity not just for Catholics, but for Christians, practicing Christians to go out there in the public square and try and attract people into taking into consideration what the Christian message, the fundamental message of Jesus Christ is because it is a miracle, a miraculous message. It is a supernatural message that rides over the totality of the day to day nature that we have in front of us. And it's nice to be made reminded of these things every now and again to help keep our eyes fixed on eternity. My thanks to Cameron Wallace, our producer today, as, as always, to the great crack team in Denver and to my guests, Brandon Show, Walter, Frank Walker and Jenny Holland. I'm Ben Harnwell, your host. I'll be back here, God willing, Wednesday next week, same time, 6pm Take care. God bless for now.
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