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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.
Alex Marlowe
In the world to stop that, but.
Steve Bannon
You'Re not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Alex Marlowe
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Matthew Palumbo
Country, this country will be saved.
Steve Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Welcome. It is Tuesday 5th August, Year Overlord 2025. Alex Marlowe, Editor in chief of Breitbart News, joins us with his new book. So, Alex, even today's show, we go from Austin, we're talking about the battle in Illinois. They're going to go to court on Friday. When he vacates this, they'll have him right in court. During paneling a grand jury in South Florida, they're bringing evidence on not just seditious conspiracy, but also Jack Smith and what he did. The House is now sending out not just a list of stuff on Epstein, but they're also going to now come forward with a list on what's happening about going after President Trump for years. And on top of all that, we have 175 different lawsuits to deny President Trump his Article 2 powers because they understand to delay is to deny. Is that the thesis of your book is that this is what it's down to? They got this. And you can see Bolsonaro is arrested last night under house arrest now, and they're throwing another charge on him for, for, you know, a coup d'. Etat. You see, Marine Le Pen's got four years in prison is still kind of up in the air. How that's going to do Is this. Is this what they got? And this is where they're going to bring the heat.
Alex Marlowe
Steve, thank you. There's. I got three big points for you. The first one is people have not fully looked at the connective tissue of all these cases. This the biggest conspiracies, if not the biggest conspiracy of the 21st century. And we just blew through it. Donald Trump had to take on six major cases at a time. It's not just Jack Smith. Jack Smith was a blatantly unconstitutional appointment according to our US Constitution and the appointments clause. And yet he was allowed to operate with impunity with no checks and balances whatsoever for 18 months. He was put in there by Merrick Garland. We know that means Joe Biden. I want to know the extent of the conspiracy. I want to know all every conversation that took place. You look at cases like the Stormy Daniels case, the only case that had a conviction. They sent a guy from the top of the doj, Matthew Colangelo, who's the third most powerful guy at the doj. He was in line to be an FBI director or a Supreme Court justice or a cabinet secretary. He goes down and takes a junior level job for Alvin Bragg in Manhattan. To do what? To bag Trump and I would presume communicate with the White House as well. What's that about, Steve? That's like taking a four star general off the field and putting him in the Army Reserves as a private. It's the same as taking someone off the center field for the New York Yankees and throwing them down to Coach Tebowl. That's what they were doing. Why are they doing this? It's all a vast conspiracy and it's each and every case. Nathan Wade, the family lawyer who was put in the Fani Willis case, taking eight hour meetings at the White House. What's he discussing in those meetings? We know what he's discussing. We have brains and we just stop caring about this. We stop caring about this conspiracy against rights for Donald Trump such as Jack Smith. He's part of a massive lawfare superstructure. The only way to beat it is to fight tooth and nail. Right now, I don't want this audience. And Steve, this is why I reached out to you specifically. I sent two texts with this book that I wanted to send out people who I wanted this on radar. You are one of them. And the reason why is because of the posse. You can only win this with a robust grassroots that's fully engaged, that's on a wartime footing, not taking a summer vacation because we're an off election season. No, the lafayer superstructure is working right now. They're working in Texas, they're working all over the country. They're trying to shut down what you guys earned by fighting and beating them in 2024. That's the point. That's the warning that we're trying to make.
Steve Bannon
Go to me the three I want to go make sure I make sure we got it because the posse is on, is on this. You said the connective tissue's number one. What's the second one?
Alex Marlowe
Third point, the warning is number two. That this is ongoing, it's happening right now. And the third point is that if we don't get the indictments, if we don't get the perp walks, if we don't get justice fully served to President Trump and people like you who suffered, there's still one way to get justice long term, and that's full engagement, winning elections, getting people who are engaged so we get the best appointments possible, making sure our leaders are not appointing any weak kneed people who are going to roll over at the second the New York Times writes a negative headline about them. We can't ever let that happen again. And maintaining that wartime footing, not immediately go into peacetime mode just because Trump won. That's the fear I've got, is that this movement will make that mistake. And if we're not gonna make that mistake, it's gonna start with audiences exactly like yours, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Well, I think here's the thing, and I keep telling people this, is that we gotta stick the landing here because this is the greatest political crime. President Trump said this dwarfs Watergate or anything that came before it. Maybe the Kennedy, maybe the Kennedy assassination, let's put a pin in that. But we have to do it. We have to stick the landing with indictments and perp walks. You can never say what's going to happen at trial, right? But these people have to be put, this has to be adjudicated before the nation. If we don't get to that point, I tell folks I said, hey, look, you can anticipate that at least 5% of your hardest core base is just going to sit there and go, I can't believe it if you didn't bring it home on this. And this is really taking apart the deep state, but particularly the thing that drives a deep state, and that's the interconnectedness in the lawfare that drives them. So I think your third point is one, that, and that's why, hey, the audience this week, and this is, you know, the Senate's gone, the House is gone, our audience are as big as they are in a run up to election. Why? Because this thing in Texas has metastasized. At the same time President Trump's calling out Obama and saying, hey, you're guilty of treason. That doesn't happen every day in American history. But now it's incumbent upon the apparatus, the Justice Department, these, these prosecutors, this is why I keep arguing for a special prosecutor, because they're too swamp. But if they're not, fine. But we, we must stick the landing.
Alex Marlowe
Sir, do we take law and order seriously in this country, do we take our democracy serious? Seriously in this country, Are we actually stewards of our Constitution? If we are, then we can't accept that there hasn't been a single person held accountable for the stuff I just laid out, not to mention the Russia stuff. And the list goes on. It needs to start. And there's another key component here. One of Trump's core appeals is promises made, promises kept. This audience was told, we were told that there'd be accountability for someone. I don't think everyone thinks that Barack Obama is going to jail. It's the. I'm smart enough to know that's highly unlikely. But you know what I want to see? I want to see people try. I want to see people try to actually connect the dots, do a full investigation. And when they have people slipping up, which they will, if they turn over every stone, then those people do need to get purple opt and they need to get treated way worse than anything that you saw and Trump saw because you guys didn't do anything. You guys got wrapped up in a big dragnet to try to subvert an election. That is, if you guys go to jail for that, then what do you do for the people who are actually conspiring to nullify the vote of 80 million Americans?
Steve Bannon
Let's go back. I want to go back to the. And I think this is the attitude has got to change. And I'm not saying comer and these guys are not nice guys but. But are good people. But they kind of play by the old playbook of the standard stock Republican establishment.
Matthew Palumbo
Right.
Steve Bannon
You saw the investigations they had and we didn't lay a glove on anybody. Right. How does that have to change? Because one dramatic aspect of this is the executive branch is Department of Justice is these prosecutors going for the criminal part. The other is Congress also has to get involved here so that this can never happen again. And this includes defunding the deep state. What do you recommend we need to see out of both the House and the Senate to make sure that we stick the landing there?
Alex Marlowe
Yeah, I think that I lay out a pretty good blueprint of what are the subpoenas that need to happen, what are the specific investigations that need to take place. But I don't have subpoena power. I'm very limited as a citizen journalist. I do the best I can to connect dots. I don't think anyone really does it any better. But the thing is, is this is only a map for where things need, where the pressure needs to be placed and the Pressure needs to be placed right away. There's an urgency here because they're gearing up for 2026 and 2028. The Lafayer superstructure knows that they've drawn blood because someone who's not as tough as you, not as tough as a Peter Navarro, not as tough as a Donald Trump, these types of people would have rolled over and caved a long time ago. They know that message was sent to the MAGA movement. And we are the ones who could pot living in fear when it should be them because they were the ones who were breaking the law. And so this is the point that needs to be made here, is that we need to make sure that there are not two tiers of justice in this country, because if there is, that 5% you're talking about are gonna check out. And it's very hard for someone like me or you, Steve, to get behind the microphone and say that you are promised there's not gonna be two tiers of justice, and there is to tell you to go and vote for the people who didn't get the job done. That's why your point about sticking the landing is crucial. It is absolutely crucial. We start seeing the receipts and the results.
Steve Bannon
Alex is one of the most serious young men in the country. He's been the editor in chief since virtually Andrew passed away. Also does the morning show, so he's got a big lift there. Tell me, why is this book the best book right now? For a battle map that if somebody wants to get up to speed totally of what went down, all the details, but also laying forward some people, because right now, and I think somebody the other day said, hey, this thing's so confusing. We need to frame this properly. And people need to know both the details, but they also need to know the big picture. Why is your book the one that people should buy?
Alex Marlowe
Yeah. Thank you again for the opportunity, Steve. It really means a lot. I feel like that what I try to do is I try to translate some of the more complicated stuff back to people who maybe checked out a little bit. Maybe they got confused. I haven't spoken to one person who is not someone that, you know, I would be reading a Julie Kelly to catch up on what's going on, who can fully explain all the six major cases, how they were going on at the same time, the connective tissue between the cases. And I try to do the clearest job possible of laying out the essentials so that you understand the extent of the conspiracy and really how absurd each and every one of these things were what the origins of some of them were. The Stormy Daniels case that wouldn't have even taken place if it wasn't for the Russian collusion hoax. That case should never have happened. It was born of Michael Cohen and the Russian collusion fake news. Most people don't know that stuff in the war room audience might, but this is definitely something that will get people primed for discussions that need to happen in this country about the subversion of law and order that took place to try to make sure Trump was in jail and not in the White House.
Steve Bannon
Pretty good. A pull quote on the COVID of the book. A must read from President Trump. He doesn't give that. That's a, like a five star rating. I want to know where people can go.
Alex Marlowe
Gonna be wants to hack my phone. I got the audio of Trump giving me that quote. It's the most surreal thing I heard. I couldn't believe it was happening when he was rattling off the quote. Is this really happening? It's crazy. So. But he's, he's been supportive, which I.
Matthew Palumbo
Really.
Steve Bannon
Well know because, you know, from Boris and all, Mike Davis, all of us back in those dark days of, of 2021 and know the long struggle this is. And now we've got to stick the landing. That's why. And what Alex is saying, it's what made this, it's what's made the redistricting such a global news story. We need to get back with the war impossible. We're going to have a lot of action items to do, a lot of calls, to make, emails, to send text messages. But you're seeing the wave come together. And President Trump, look, he's raised the stakes appropriately. He's actually from the Oval Office called out his predecessor as saying, hey, this guy is guilty of seditious, you know, conspiracy. Now it's, now it's time for the people that have the evidence to go through, get the evidence. We have to adjudicate this publicly. We've always said that. Where do people go now and get the book and where do they go to get your writings?
Alex Marlowe
Thank you. I'm very agnostic on where you want to buy it. If you got an issue with Amazon, I don't blame you. I'm fine with it because that's just where a lot of books are sold. But books, a million, whatever you want, it's wherever major booksellers are. I read the audiobook, which is really sort of a performance that's really fun if you're an audio type person. I've got the Alex Marlowe show podcast, which is new, Steve. And so appreciate the chance to plug that. And Breitbart.com is always number one news source and the world, I think, in terms of getting the latest hardcore information on this stuff. But I really appreciate you and I appreciate the posse, because this is one where if we make the mistake we made during the first Trump administration and kick back a little bit. I know you weren't kicking back, but some people were. You've got to stay in those core agenda items and the promises made, promises kept. This audience was promised the perp box and the handcuffs. I get cynical on this stuff sometimes. I think they're not gonna happen. It doesn't mean I don't wanna see the best effort humanly possible put forward by the people in power. We're starting to see it. I'm very heartened by this. But it's not just Jack Smith. He's part of a massive cabal.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, no. By the way, if we don't do this and take this apart, every, all, everything we've done, from sealing the border to the deportations, to the tax cuts to, you know, the hemispheric defense getting out of the America first, it's all going to be unwound. I keep telling people, hey, they're coming and they want to put people in prison again. Okay, this is going to. We are, we are so far from being through this. This is why it's so important. I've also got to tell the audience that just like Natalie Winters was an intern here the first time. So the first time I think I really spent time with Andrew Breitbart. We had just shown him, you know, we tried to show a film the last 600 meters I made with Michael Pack. It didn't work. So we went downstairs. I go downstairs and Larry Soloff, who's the CEO of the company, was the lawyer at the time. And he's there because Andrew was tied up in about 50 lawsuits. He was so controversial and guys were trying to steal the name. And then Alex Marlow is there. And your job that day, I think was changing diapers. Right? You were helping him edit Drudge. He did about 400 radio, radio hits. And Alex, I said, who's this guy, Alex? How old were you when he first started working for Andrew?
Alex Marlowe
I was 21, so you probably met me when I was 22, 23, probably that range. So it's. It's been quite a wild ride. Quite a while ride.
Steve Bannon
A wild ride from his aide de camp to the editor in chief. Alex, also social media. Where do people go to get you and follow you on Twitter? Andrew is the guy that made Twitter. He was the Trump of Twitter years before Donald Trump came on and really got big on Twitter. Where do people go?
Alex Marlowe
AlexMarlo is the Twitter spot, and I'm on most of the other platforms as well. And don't always keep my handle straight. I'm like you, Steve. I'd kind of prefer to do the talking and then let someone else do the. Do the tweeting. But you're pretty good at the tweeting on the Grinder. On the Getter stuff. Not Grindr.
Steve Bannon
The Getter. A Freudian.
Alex Marlowe
I'm not the first person to make that mistake.
Matthew Palumbo
He's terrible. Alex Marvel.
Steve Bannon
Thank you.
Alex Marlowe
Thanks.
Steve Bannon
Let's. Let's everybody go get the book. Thank you, brother. And Mo and Grace, I guess Mo is. Mo is actually with Jack Posobic in Poland. So, Grace, let's get this. If we send a link to the book, it's a great primer, and I know you guys need a primer. I asked Matthew Palumbo to drop what he's doing and jump on here. I've got Robin Cole, Dr. Robin Cole. Huge announcement coming out of HHS we're gonna get to in a minute. Palumbo. Soros, you're the expert on the father. You wrote that great book on the father. I don't think a lot of people know that you've got a book coming out in a short while on the Son, the Sun. And I keep telling people, don't think because Soros is 80 some years old and is going to leave this vale of tears shortly, that the demonic activity of Soroces have stopped. I actually think it's going to get worse. And today they're finally exposing, like, who in the hell is paying for this jailbreak of these radical Democratic House members? Guess what? It's Soros. So walk us through the sun. Why is the sun somebody that we really got to start focusing on? Because he's in the back. Whether it's, you know, Mom, Donnie in New York City, or the jailbreak with these radical Democrats in Illinois. This guy's hand's gonna be everywhere, sir.
Matthew Palumbo
Yeah, well, I spent. I mean, I would say it was probably 500 to 600 hours putting this book together. And the reason it took so long was at least twice as long as the last one was just because of the amount of original research it took, because there just wasn't really that much out on him. And he is, you know, I say the apple, you know, it's not only that the apple didn't fall from the far the tree, I don't know if it really fell at all. He is to a large extent a more youthful clone of his father. And you know, the best case scenario for us I guess would be the Open Society foundation just continuing on autopilot. But obviously that's not going to be the case. One of the pieces of original research I did for the book with alongside the Media Research center and Joe Vasquez was we went through all of the climate grants that the OSF spends because Alex has listed climate change as his number one issue for, since his first interviews. And we went through a couple thousand grants and we started plotting the spending and basically from 2016, the earliest year they gave us data up until Alex took over, they had spent $193 million on climate and climate related things. Ever since Alex took over, which was just two years ago, he's authorized 438 million in spending. And it's not just climate groups that are climate specific. The thing about left wing activism that I think a lot of people have noticed is there's sort of catch all groups where you know, climate will be the number one issue that they advertise. But also you go to the rallies and for some reason there's a pro Palestine guy there, there's a pro gun control guy there, there's a pro union guy and the left will use groups like that almost as front groups, groups for all these other left wing causes. So that's one of the big things he's doing. Another chapter that I wanted to do and ended up researching for was, well, what happened to all of these progressive prosecutors that his father had hired? Is he hiring more? Are they more or less moderate? Are there more today or less today than when he took over? And there's been about two dozen George Soros funded prosecutors that have been driven from office or retired early among scandal. But he's more than replaced them with new prosecutors. And the one I lead with is the case of Kim Ogg. Now Kim Ogg was a Harris county prosecutor George Soros funded. And she initially went along with the Soros agenda, but then kind of reversed on it after realizing it was, it was increasing crime, which is a rarity. Obviously among the Soros prosecutors, she's the only one to really reverse course and then kind of sever ties with Soros. So Alex Soros funded a prosecutor to go after a George Soros funded prosecutor for not being radical enough. And she ended up losing her primary. 75, 25. A lot of other prosecutors that are now becoming household names for their craziness like Mary Maria Tree. She was the one where Tim Wall staffer vandalized Tesla cars. It was 20 plus thousand dollars in damage and she gave him a diversion program saying well, you know, we don't want to ruin the guy's life over this. Two days prior to her doing that, there was a worker at I believe a Waffle House who keyed her coworker's car. It was like two or $3,000 in damage and she got criminally charged. Meaning the laws are enforced in a way that always helps the left. So those are two things that stand out. And then I guess I'll leave on one last thing to not ramble. One of the questions people always ask me is well, what can we do about groups like the Open Society Foundation? Can we investigate them and if so, over what? And I was going through the, you know, the most the year Alex took over the OSF and I did a chapter just on grants of his that he authorized that were half a million dollars or more and in the US because I thought, you know, that shows commitment. He probably has a lot of control as a percentage of overall funding of groups. And there was at least a half dozen I found that don't appear to be legitimate groups. And when I say I mean groups that he gave millions of dollars to where the website is a paragraph of text and a donate button. They claim to be active groups, but there's no news articles about them. There's no social media presence. If there is a social media presence, you know, it's got 50 views on a YouTube video. And then their financials are just make no sense whatsoever. They'll raise millions of dollars, but their office expense will be like 200 bucks. They'll have no computer or social like expense. Just a lot of things that don't really add up where you know, I'm not an accountant, but I think in investing, you know, forensic accountant probably could take a lot of interest in that.
Steve Bannon
But why, why would they do that? What are those groups? What's the purpose of those groups is to funnel money, get money into some of these left wingers. So they can just do it. It's a pool of cash. They can do what they want.
Matthew Palumbo
Yeah, it's. And you know, the thing is too like Soros, the father and son have openly given money to pass through groups like the Tides Foundation. The difference with these groups is they're just not advertised as such. They're advertised as active groups that are going out and having protests. But you go through the actual numbers and it's money getting siphoned off to random groups and, and some of them are getting siphoned off to other groups that he's giving money to. So it's just a bizarre web that, you know, I'm, I think definitely requires a lot more looking into. And I think too, even from a. Not from like a, like an accounting standpoint, the reason he does this is largely, you know, actually the reason he gives the groups at all is for plausible deniability. Because whenever they do something wrong, if they take part of a riot, when the OSF puts out a statement, they say, well, we didn't do it. It was a group. We gave money and we have certain conditions and they violated them. And I point out in the book, I'm like, you can't give money to an arsonist. Then say, well, gee, I had no idea what was going to happen. But that is how they operate. And I think with these other groups, A, there could be something fraudulent going on, or B, it's just they want more layers for some other sort of sinister activity.
Steve Bannon
I want to go before I lose you. I want to just make sure that people. It kind of drafts on what Alex Marlowe was saying. The son, I think, is more radical than the father. We're moving through a time that's going to be much more radical than what the father did. We're going to look at that like you kind of look at Obama in Obamacare. Remember the Tea Party? All that seems so gentle today of where we're going because we're going to a very dark space to save our nation. This kid in these radical. What he's doing like in New York, what he's doing in Texas, these are not normal things. In New York, you have the Red Green Alliance. This is neo Marxism combined with radical jihad. In Texas, you actually have. They're leaving to Illinois and saying, hey, we don't care if you shut down all the, all the government processes on the legislature and that. We don't care. And he's underwriting. He's underwriting. They're getting more and more radical right as they know they can get fewer wins. And that's where they're going to play smash mouth when Soros and that phony candidate take over with the Working People's Party and dsa because a lot of Republicans say, oh, let them get it. They're going to screw it up and this will be. We'll be able to campaign. I said, you don't understand how these guys operate. This is like French Revolution guys taking power. These are hardcore people, and once they grab onto power, you're going to have to pry them out. Give our audience a second about just how he's much more radical than his father, I think, and backing much more radical people.
Matthew Palumbo
Yeah, but he openly identifies as progressive and you just have to go to his social media accounts. I mean, there's that famous line in the movie the Big Short where he says, you know, they're not confessing, they're bragging. And that is how it feels when he's posting all these photos. Although on the Texas Point, the group you mentioned, Texas Majority pac, which is obviously an ironic name if you're a Democrat in Texas, does get about two thirds of its funding from Alex. And they fortunately, when they started to try to turn Texas blue in the last election, or at least purple, did not get anywhere. And Alex, I don't know how good he is at picking candidates outside of the progressive prosecutors because in one of his social media posts, he was pictured with Jasmine Crockett and he said that he thinks she's the future of the Democratic Party. And God, I hope he's correct.
Steve Bannon
Matthew, where they go to get all your content and where they go to get the book, this new book on, I've had a chance to read it and give a pull quote. Where do people go to get it?
Matthew Palumbo
So my social media that no one reads is Matt Palumbo12 on Twitter. But for the book, as your last guest said, anywhere works. The, they actually moved up the, the date it gets released, October 28th. I should probably upload that banner there that no one's reading. But you know, Amazon is probably the easiest and you know, I know it's a pre order right now, but one of the things it helps us with on the Alex Soros book is if we sell a certain amount on a, you know, on the day it gets released through pre orders, the New York Times basically has to put it on their bestseller list. And you know, I know they don't want to do that, so that would be a plus.
Steve Bannon
We want, we want to make the air a top 10 New York Times bestseller when it launches. Matt Palumbo, thank you so much, brother. Fantastic.
Matthew Palumbo
Thanks so much for having me, Steve. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Hi, it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Here, your HHS secretary. At HHS, we have a division called the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or Barda Barda drives some of our most advanced scientific research. It funds developments of vaccines, drugs, diagnostics, and other tools to fight emerging diseases and national health threats. Over the past few weeks, BARDA reviewed 22 MRNA vaccine development investments and began canceling them. Let me explain why. Most of these shots are for flu or Covid. But as the pandemic showed us, MRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract. Here's the problem. MRNA only codes for a small part of the viral proteins, usually a single antigen. One mutation, and the vaccine becomes ineffective. This dynamic drives a phenomena called antigenic shift, meaning that the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape the protective effects of the vaccine. Millions of people, maybe even you or someone you know, got the omicron variant despite being vaccinated. That's because a single mutation can make MRNA vaccines ineffective. The same risk applies to flu. After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and fda, HHS has determined that MRNA technology poses more risk and benefits for these respiratory viruses. That's why, after extensive review, Barda has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts, totaling just under $500 million. To replace the troubled MRNA programs, we're prioritizing the development of safer, broader vaccine strategies, like whole virus vaccines and novel platforms that don't collapse when viruses mutate. Let me be absolutely clear. HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them. That's why we're moving beyond the limitations of MRNA for respiratory viruses and investing in better solutions. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Produced by the U.S. department of Health and Human Services. Okay, now I'm totally confused. I'm totally confused. I think we just heard a bombshell going off. Dr. Ryan Cole, you have such great credibility with the audience. You've been doing this for years, during the darkest days of the pandemic, and you speak with authority. So I'm confused. We had Dr. Mullen and some folks on it's like two weeks ago, and I thought the whole thing, you have this new committee staffed with new people. The New York Times is a meltdown. But I thought they gave the go ahead because I had to jump in there because this is not my line of country. But we've done enough on war and pandemic that I know at least how to ask the right questions. I said, hang on for a second. I thought we had a big problem with MRNA in that this was going to be kind of put not in abeyance. But further study before we start putting it out. And my answer I got. Oh, no, no, no. This is. So today you guys canceled all the development contracts. A half a billion dollars of development contracts for 22 MRNA working on 22 research elements, or development elements for respiratory, for vaccines, for respiratory illness. Is that what happened?
Dr. Ryan Cole
Yes. I mean, this is, like you said, this is a massive win for Secretary Kennedy and basically a silencing of many of the critics. It's not a ban on MRNA like many people would like to see. However, it is the wind down of the government investing through BARDA in these technologies. And their Global Health Investment Corporation partner is advised to stop all equity investments in modified RNA technologies. So follow the money. When the money isn't there, these are going to fizzle. So I think, like you said, this is a bombshell. The repercussions are going to be felt worldwide. There will be backlash. People want their novel technologies and the potential monies that come from investments in it. But it's an unsafe technology. And as Secretary Kerry Kennedy unambiguously stated.
Steve Bannon
But hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Full stop, full stop, full stop, full stop. You say it's an unsafe technology. Hasn't the United States government, with these companies that are publicly traded, haven't. You got to help me out here. I know there's been a lot of stuff on the podcast and people come into the war room and so. But that's very different. Different than doing, you know, detailed research, platinum level research that the Secretary promised, and then coming out with a bombshell like this. So up until this point today that this was announced, MRNA was to a large extent looked at as the future, correct me if I'm wrong, of a technology for vaccines for respiratory illness, was it not?
Dr. Ryan Cole
Well, it mistakenly was by people who don't understand the basic science of it. And so the hot new shiny item, many people wanted to go after that hot new shiny item, not understanding how it harms the human body and goes to every cell on the human body. And as the secretary astutely explained, look, you're looking at a target that's going to mutate and go away. So it was a failed technology from the beginning and really wouldn't exist, Moderna wouldn't exist if the government hadn't buoyed them up upfront money, billions of dollars to get this out into the public. This is really a holdover of the FAUCI mindset that many of us are grateful to see be de invested and defunded like this. So you are correct. I mean, it was enticing, shall we say, to many people that don't understand the technology. For those of us behind the scenes that do that detailed basic science research, we knew from day one this was a horrible idea, which it's proven to be. And unambiguously HHS has stated through Secretary Kennedy, look, these are not effective. And we know that now. And so this de investment in these 22 projects, it's just the beginning. And so I think this shores up the strength of the Maha movement, the division that we've seen between Maha and Maga. This is reunifying. This is true action. This is, is actually going to be beneficial to the health of many that won't get this type of technology put into their bodies going forward. So it's not an ultimate everything's gone. There's still some funding and contracts that will be carried out and finished. There's still research opportunities in this realm. However, it's a clear and unambiguous statement that this is not for human use.
Steve Bannon
What was it that Bobby Kennedy's been in there since April. We're now roughly right, maybe March. We are now in the first week of August. What happened? What research was done, what paper was reported? What did they come back with to say, okay, here we are. To come to, quite frankly, such a monumental decision. I'm not saying I disagree with it, but as you know, people have talked about this for years. People have made your argument for years. There are so many of these great podcasts with so many of these experts, and you sit there and you watch them, but something had to happen officially to adjudicate this in the last four or five months. What was that that actually happened?
Dr. Ryan Cole
Excuse me. I think it's new leadership, I think, at NIH under Dr. Bhattacharya. I think having new members of teams at upper levels. And granted, Bobby doesn't have his full team yet, but I think there are individuals that are willing without fear to look at the actual science and not go along with the crowd and the group think and actually look at the science and data instead of saying, well, if I do this, I might lose my job, like many of us did. The fact of the matter is these are brave, bold people who said, okay, what's the actual science? Let's review it. Let's, you know, unbiasedly review what's in front of us instead of having basically those threats of reprisal and top experts. Many of us for, like you said, for years have been saying this, but now some of those peoples are in positions of authority and power and scientific acumen and can say, look, we've gone over the data, all the lies that we heard from the mainstream media. We can repudiate now, and we can go forward with authority and state. Look, we've reviewed the actual data. We're in the agencies. We now have access to that. And the fraud can be untwined, basically.
Steve Bannon
How do we go forward? There's going to be an awful lot of people. I mean, in our family, I can think about just the Bannon family. I mean, we have. I would say in the extended, you know, I had five brothers and sisters, but in the extended family, I would say, and I might be wrong, I would say 40% of us are unvaxed, not vaxxed, and 60% were vaxxed. Of those that took the vax, I think that they passed on the moderna alternative at first and went to the Pfizer. But so many people, you know, there was such a wave of that MRNA was the future. This was. And I kept saying, this is really. Maybe I'm incorrect. I would say this is really a gene therapy, right? An experimental gene therapy other than a full vaccine. How do you go back? I mean, I don't even know how you go. How do you go back now and tell these folks that took the vaccine based upon what the government was telling them, particularly Fauci. Fauci was in. Remember, we were canceled off of every. We're still canceled on every major platform because we're the guys that went after Fauci the hardest. And early on, I shifted the name from war impeachment to war pandemic for at least one hour. I think on January 20th of 2020, we were two or three months ahead of the mainstream media, given my, you know, what I knew about China and the Wuhan and the military medical operation there. And basically, people we knew in there told us, hey, this is what's happening. But how do you go back to mainstream media, msnbc? I mean, isn't the potential liabilities here massive?
Dr. Ryan Cole
Sir, you bring up a great point. And, you know, we're not here to judge anyone that did take a shot. And in fact, what we need to focus on now is government funding, NIH funding for those who did and are still suffering. There are a lot of people left, left in the wake of this program. And yes, we're going to get attacks still going forward from the legacy media. However, I think these bold moves give.
Matthew Palumbo
Us.
Dr. Ryan Cole
Basically fodder for the cannon to continue to fire and say look, we will work on better science, better technology, but let's not forget those who were harmed by this. And that's, I think, an important message for research, research funding, to understand what has been done as we try to disentangle all these interests who are now about to lose half a billion dollars of funding, which I think is wonderful. And we need to focus on better technologies, not gene therapies that go to every cell in the body, not gene therapies for respiratory viruses. This is, I think, a new day and a new era going forward. And as the Secretary said, look, we're for good science. We're not trying to pull everybody's vaccine away from them, but we're not going to allow them to take unsafe ones. But let's not forget, forget those who did take it. Many of those people are fine, that's fantastic. But many of them are not. And this is where science needs to go forward to try to help those individuals, to try to find those mechanisms that I've been explaining from pulpits from Japan to Croatia to the UK Parliament to parliaments all around the world, trying to help politicians understand when science and politics mix, you get bad science sometimes. And so this is, I think, a new era going forward. Secretary Kennedy is made a very bold move here. Yes, there will be investors that are frustrated. I get that. This is not about the investors. This is about human health. And so if we can logically go forward, try to find those studies, fund the studies that weren't funded under Fauci and find cures, remedies for those who have been harmed, I think that's a good thing that can come out of this. Shifting those tax dollars that you and I put in to try to have a decent public health health system, which you and I know is broken and as do the listeners. But we do need to find solutions. And I think by refocusing our efforts on something that is better than this failed, dangerous technology is a good idea.
Steve Bannon
Look, listen, you're preaching the gospel of the war room for four years. However, I just got to, because Big Pharma is just not going to sit there and go, this is wonderful. Bobby Kennedy, who's an anti vax wingnut, just canceled the most promising technology out there. And here's my point. When you read this release, you go through and says, you know, the decisions, including cancellation, descoping of various contracts and solicitations, relate to MRNA vaccine development activities. And this is by the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Barda. And the quote is from Bobby Kennedy. We reviewed the science Listened to the experts enacted, that's fine, but. And then you go through a whole bunch of actions shows the vaccines fail to protect effectively upper respiratory infections. Covid ba boom. All the actions are taking. Termination of this, cancellation of this Descartes scoping, that's all great, but the buried lead here is that you reviewed the science list of the experts enacted. Someone is going to have to come forward. You and other these great doctors are going to come forward and say, hey, this is the science we reviewed, this is the experts we talked to. This is the data. You got to show the receipts here. I'm sure the companies out there that are publicly traded are going to come in with massive lawsuits or fights or. Or you guys are a bunch of vaccine wingnuts. So my point is this is an opening salvo and I realize that these actions are being taken, but they're just not going to roll over. I mean this gene therapy, there's so many people that banked on this and have proposed. Think about how they look. Like fools, right? So my point is I think HHS has to immediately come out with the BARDA and I think BARDA has to make a presentation. This is what we looked at. This is you have to show the receipts to back that up. Other than that, they're just not going to take your word for it. Right now you're saying, okay, we reviewed it and we've made these actions. They're going to refine but they're going to say, hey, we need to see what the underlying science was, what's the underlying research? What led you to come to this conclusion that is 180 degrees from what people have been spoon fed by the most credentialed class in the country. Am I making sense on that?
Dr. Ryan Cole
You are, yes. And There are over 3500 peer reviewed papers in the medical literature showing the harms. So those are, you can find those@react19.org they have a link to those studies and continued science comes out showing the harms. We should have done all of this research prior to putting this in anyone's arms. As everybody knows. However, you are correct. Pharma is not going to sit down and take this easily. They are going to come back guns a blazing. This is where I think unifying scientists, certainly I'm trying to do my part, as many others are. We need to unify and say okay, in any court of law we could make the case that this was a good decision. And I agree with you, Senator Cassidy and his being the head of the biomedical lobby and PhRMA's chief friend, he's going to be up in arms. Many people are going to be up in arms. I get that. And it means that we need to support Secretary Kennedy. We don't need to say, look, we won. This is a wind down. This is an opening salvo. I agree. This is just an opening salvo. The battle is yet to be won.
Steve Bannon
This is going to be massive. Dr. Ryan Cole, where do people go right now? Social media, your website. Because folks, gotta roll your sleeves up. This another one. This is monumental. This is what you voted for. But understand we're a long way. This victory ain't won with this press release and that video. This is great. But there's gonna be a couple, three people in the medical establishment on Wall street that go, your guys are a collection of wingnuts. And we warned everybody that Bobby Kennedy was a screwball. And now this is gonna show it. So we gotta get. We're gonna get engaged in battle. Let's go for it. Where do people go to get you? Dr. Ryan Cole. Yeah.
Dr. Ryan Cole
Being on the right side of history isn't easy. @ Dr. Cole. The number 12 on X or my website is rcolmd.com Dr. Cole, thank you for coming together.
Steve Bannon
Right. This thing just came out a little while ago. Thank you for jumping on us. Appreciate you as always.
Dr. Ryan Cole
Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
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Mike Lindell
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WarRoom Battleground EP 822: Exposing The Soros Funding Behind The Dems Jailbreak; Rethinking mRNA
Release Date: August 5, 2025
Podcast Overview
In Episode 822 of Bannon's War Room, hosted by Steve Bannon, the discussion centers around two pivotal topics: the exposure of George Soros's funding behind the Democratic Party's efforts to jailbreak radical members, and a critical reevaluation of mRNA vaccine technology. The episode features insightful conversations with prominent guests Alex Marlowe, Editor-in-Chief of Breitbart News, Matthew Palumbo, and Dr. Ryan Cole, offering a comprehensive analysis of political conspiracies and significant developments in public health policy.
Timestamp: [00:12 – 02:15]
Steve Bannon opens the episode with a strong condemnation of the current political regime, attributing its decline to manipulative forces backed by media lies. He emphasizes the public's growing frustration and the inevitability of significant political shifts.
Notable Quote:
"This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
— Steve Bannon [00:12]
Discussion Highlights:
Soros Funding and Democratic Actions: Bannon questions the motivations behind various legal actions against former President Donald Trump, suggesting a coordinated effort to undermine his presidency through multiple lawsuits and legislative moves. He points to international figures like Bolsonaro and Marine Le Pen to illustrate a broader pattern of authoritarian tactics.
Alex Marlowe's Insights: Alex Marlowe outlines what he describes as the "biggest conspiracy of the 21st century," highlighting the interconnectedness of legal cases aimed at Trump. He criticizes the appointment of Jack Smith by Merrick Garland as unconstitutional and accuses the Department of Justice of biased operations designed to "bag Trump." Marlowe calls for a robust grassroots movement to counteract this "lawfare" and protect democratic rights.
Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump had to take on six major cases at a time. It's not just Jack Smith... it's a vast conspiracy against rights for Donald Trump."
— Alex Marlowe [02:15]
Timestamp: [04:21 – 10:24]
Bannon and Marlowe delve deeper into the structural conspiracy against Trump, with Marlowe promoting his new book that serves as a "battle map" for understanding and combating these legal and political maneuvers.
Notable Quote:
"We just blew through it. Donald Trump had to take on six major cases at a time."
— Alex Marlowe [02:15]
Discussion Highlights:
Connective Tissue of Legal Cases: Marlowe emphasizes the need to understand the links between various legal actions against Trump, arguing that they are part of a coordinated effort to dismantle his political influence.
Grassroots Engagement: He stresses the importance of maintaining a wartime footing within the movement, urging continuous engagement beyond election cycles to ensure lasting change.
Publication Details: Marlowe's book is positioned as an essential resource for those seeking to grasp the full scope of the conspiracy against Trump, outlining strategies for resistance and resilience.
Notable Quote:
"This is the headline of your book is that this is what it's down to? They got this."
— Steve Bannon [02:15]
Timestamp: [12:47 – 25:29]
Matthew Palumbo joins the conversation to discuss his forthcoming book on George Soros's son, Alex Soros, highlighting the increased radicalism and funding strategies that amplify left-wing activism.
Notable Quote:
"Alex is funding radical groups that act as front groups for various left-wing causes, enabling them to pursue multiple agendas simultaneously."
— Matthew Palumbo [17:11]
Discussion Highlights:
Alex Soros's Radical Funding: Palumbo reveals extensive research into Alex Soros's financial activities, uncovering billions funneled into climate change initiatives and other progressive causes through opaque organizations with minimal operational transparency.
Impact on Political Landscape: The funding of "catch-all" groups allows for the simultaneous promotion of diverse leftist agendas, from pro-Palestine movements to pro-union activities, thereby maintaining a pervasive influence across various sectors.
Progressive Prosecutors: Palumbo discusses the strategic replacement of moderate prosecutors with more radical ones funded by Soros, illustrating the ongoing efforts to reshape the legal landscape in favor of progressive policies.
Notable Quote:
"These groups act as a pool of cash for left-wing activists, allowing them to operate with plausible deniability and advance their agendas unchecked."
— Matthew Palumbo [22:04]
Timestamp: [31:25 – 49:52]
The conversation shifts to public health, focusing on a significant announcement by Dr. Ryan Cole regarding the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) canceling 22 mRNA vaccine development contracts. This move marks a pivotal shift in vaccine strategy, emphasizing the dangers and limitations of mRNA technology.
Notable Quote:
"mRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for respiratory viruses, leading to the termination of nearly $500 million in contracts."
— Dr. Ryan Cole [21:52]
Discussion Highlights:
HHS Decision: Dr. Ryan Cole explains that HHS, under the leadership of Bobby Kennedy, has terminated contracts for mRNA vaccines targeting respiratory illnesses like COVID-19 and the flu. The decision is based on mRNA's ineffectiveness against such viruses and its propensity to drive antigenic shifts.
Scientific Critique: Cole argues that mRNA vaccines are fundamentally flawed, likening them to experimental gene therapies that can introduce mutations, thereby prolonging pandemics instead of mitigating them.
Industry Reactions: Bannon anticipates significant backlash from pharmaceutical companies and mainstream media, urging for transparency and presentation of scientific evidence to support HHS's decision.
Future of Vaccine Development: The focus will shift towards safer, broader vaccine strategies, such as whole-virus vaccines, to address respiratory viruses more effectively without the unpredictable mutations associated with mRNA technology.
Notable Quotes:
"mRNA only codes for a small part of the viral proteins, usually a single antigen. One mutation, and the vaccine becomes ineffective."
— Dr. Ryan Cole [21:52]
"This is a bombshell. The repercussions are going to be felt worldwide."
— Steve Bannon [34:21]
Key Quotes with Timestamps:
"We have to stick the landing because this is the greatest political crime."
— Steve Bannon [05:17]
"If we don't get to that point, I tell folks I said, hey, look, you can anticipate that at least 5% of your hardest core base is just going to sit there and go, I can't believe it if you didn't bring it home on this."
— Steve Bannon [05:17]
"Had to change the big picture... the connective tissue is number one. What's the second one?"
— Steve Bannon [04:21]
"There are over 3500 peer-reviewed papers in the medical literature showing the harms."
— Dr. Ryan Cole [47:49]
Timestamp: [49:52 – End]
The episode wraps up with promotional segments for upcoming books by Matthew Palumbo and Mike Lindell's sales announcements. Bannon reiterates the importance of maintaining momentum in the movement against the established political and scientific establishments.
Notable Quote:
"This is going to be massive. This is what you voted for. But understand we're a long way. This victory ain't won with this press release and that video."
— Steve Bannon [45:26]
Discussion Highlights:
Book Promotions: Alex Marlowe and Matthew Palumbo promote their respective books, providing listeners with resources to further understand the conspiracies discussed.
Sales Announcements: Mike Lindell introduces a double sale on MyPillow products, encouraging listeners to support the movement through purchases.
Final Call to Action: Bannon urges listeners to stay engaged, emphasizing the long-term battle ahead and the necessity of continuous grassroots support to effect meaningful change.
Conclusion
Episode 822 of Bannon's War Room delivers a potent combination of political analysis and public health critique, uncovering alleged deep-seated conspiracies against former President Trump orchestrated by George Soros and his affiliates. Simultaneously, it highlights a significant policy shift in vaccine development, challenging the efficacy and safety of mRNA technology. The episode serves as a rallying cry for listeners to remain vigilant and proactive in combating perceived threats to democratic integrity and public health.
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Further Reading:
This summary provides an in-depth overview of the key discussions and insights from WarRoom Battleground EP 822, ensuring that listeners and interested parties can grasp the essential points without having to engage directly with the full episode.