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WarRoom Battleground EP 849: On The Ground From Utah; Redistricting Fight In Indiana
WarRoom Battleground EP 849: On The Ground From Utah; Redistricting Fight In Indiana ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It is Monday the 15th of September in the year of our Lord 2025. And we've got a lot to go through in this hour. I want to thank everybody for sticking around for the second hour of the late afternoon early evening edition of the War Room. We got Phil Lyman on who was an eyewitness to events, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah. Degrasse is going to jump in here. He's got a bolt at 5, at 6:30 we're going to get Degrasse in to talk about Indiana 9 0. POLITICO's lead story this morning on the must read playbook was about Indiana on Saturday. Senator Banks, Raheem Kassam, and Of course Alex DeGrasse organizing that about Indiana 90 as it is a litmus test for what's going on right now in the maximization strategy. And of course Dr. Bradley Thayer has helped us put together a thinking about antifa and other these organizations as domestic terrorist organizations. You heard the president from the Oval Office just moments ago saying that hey, he's going to, he's open to designating them. And then later says I am going to designate this. So you've got Stephen Miller and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanch, everybody I'm sure working on this even as we speak. So Mark, you're towards the back. You're about to go get your friends. You're going to walk into the building, I take it the building right next to the low C center. So the low C center is kind of one removed but you can see back in that amphitheater. You're going inside. You hear a loud bang, right? You hear a loud bang and what do you do? You stop going downstairs, you turn and go back out into the open space.
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Phil Lyman
Yeah, yeah. So I stop, look around for a Couple of seconds in the doorway, and I just turn around and walk right, right back out. And my first objective is to, like, confirm, was that a gunshot? What's going on? As soon as you start seeing the chaos, it's like, okay, this is a gunshot. And then I walked over to the, to the, the closest people to this, to that spot where I was at, like, trying to get some confirmation to these. So walk over to these two girls who were standing. Leaning over the. Leaning over the railing and kind of watching the crowd scatter. And, and, and the, I guess the chilling part of that, Steve, as I stepped up there, and it wasn't chilling at the time because I was. I had one thing I was just trying to find out, did that gun shop. Is that a gunshot? Did it come from up here? And as I stepped up there, I just heard one of the girls over here. She was just talking to her friend, and she's looking at these fleeing kids down there running for their lives. And she said, go fuck yourselves. And, you know, not to me, but to her friend, I thought. And so I, and I just jumped in. I said, did that shot come from here? Wasn't that right here? And she said, yeah, it was right over there, which was in an open area. And I looked over and I couldn't see anything. And I didn't think a whole lot about it until later, but there was some disdain there. And I thought, you know, maybe. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe she's talking to, you know, somebody that she thinks was. Was the shooter, some, Something that. Some contempt there. So, you know, looking at my videos and stuff afterwards, because I had this. I was on. I was on tape, and it's like, yeah, that's. That's what she said. And I, and I thought, that's an interesting, that's an interesting reaction. And, and really the lack of reaction, it's like, why are you not ducking down? Why are you not afraid? You're young. You've got a lot of life ahead of you. I was, you know, honestly, I looked at. I'm thinking I'm. I'm here with a bunch of college kids, and I'm an old dude, and I'm going to go out there and if there's a shooter, I want to stop him from shooting somebody else. And a lot of those kids were. They like, say they were running for their lives and they were screaming. And it was a strange thing to say to a group of what I would think would be your peers and have a little bit of empathy for them.
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Steve Bannon
Was there Any other. Because there was kind of mass chaos after what is supposed to be the shot, the loud bang. Were there any other groups that look like they were not perturbed by it, that they weren't fleeing in mass chaos or mass, you know, just being afraid, really running for their lives?
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Phil Lyman
There were a few. There were a few clusters of people that were, in my mind, noticeably not reacting, and maybe they weren't tuned into what the threat was. I don't know how they couldn't be, because it was really chaotic. But, yeah, there were a couple of other groups that just seemed to be more interested in kind of the spectator side of this.
- [05:39]
Steve Bannon
But in something like that, in the normal reaction that could be. This could be a mass casualty event. Like in Minneapolis. He let off 115, I think, rounds. The natural human thing, like you saw, by the way, the young men and women, particularly young men fleeing were, you know, looked like kind of your jocks. It's a natural human reaction to like, let's get out of here until something's figured out. Wouldn't it strike you as very odd that people were just kind of not. Didn't look like they were feared for their lives?
- [06:13]
Phil Lyman
Especially. Especially where I was standing, because that really. There was a huge bang there. And pretty soon the cops, you know, the undercover cops were running through there saying, where's the shooter? Where's the shooter? What'd you see? What'd you see? And, you know, people are saying, yeah, I think it's close by. And that's. I'm thinking, I think he's probably on the roof not shooting, so probably done shooting, probably leaving the scene by now. And that was. That was of the Sorenson Building. And then when they showed the actual thing, it was just east of there, which is really, really close as well. Still kind of above our heads, but a little bit further back. And yeah, that. That if you're in that spot and there was a lot of people who were running into the building, who were crouching down behind the. The center block or the. The concrete retaining things, a lot of places to. To take cover. And. And it was noticeable. Noticeable that some of them were not taking cover.
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Steve Bannon
Phil, I take it you've. You've tried to talk to the authorities, but it hasn't gotten traction yet. But you're open to talk to the authorities and tell them everything you know?
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Phil Lyman
Oh, yeah, no, I sent. I sent all my. My video footage, you know, to. To the FBI. Yeah. Involved with a lot of other people who reached out to me and, you know, sharing stuff with me. So I forwarded everything that I, that I, that I could. And I, and I will tell you, I didn't. It didn't dawn on me that there could have been a, like a pre. Knowledge for some of these people until after we started questioning. You know, was that really the shooter? Was there really a person on the roof watching that video of him coming off the roof, you know, which we didn't get till like two days later. And saying, this is not adding up. Stuff is not adding up. And that's when it kind of. And again, going back through my videos and watching, I was like, that is out of place. That was a really out of place response.
- [08:05]
Steve Bannon
I tell you what, Phil, I want to put a pin in because I want to get to the videos and all of your. You were an eyewitness and thought you saw it. But then, and this is why I keep telling the FBI guys and others, we just can't drib and drive this out. We shouldn't hurt the investigation by putting out maybe too much details. But they're on Fox and other places putting out kind of every other, you know, every half hour you get another group, you have to have a briefing. If particularly you have to address these videos. Hang on for one second. I got to get Alex De Grass in here because Alex has got a bounce. Degrasse. The event on Saturday, particularly given the tragedy, was next level. And I gotta tell you, the intensity I wanted everybody in the Warren posse that's out there, as a Hoosier in Indiana, you guys are the best. You're the backbone of the country. And particularly when you have a political class that is, you know, maybe not as maga as the voters and the workers out there. Really want to thank Senator Banks, who is about as based as you can get. Where do we stand? Because the rally cry, and I want to tell you, we were overwhelmed by the crowd response. I mean, the war in posse, the standing ovations, what they, what they did when Rahim was talking, we had the Tommy Robinson. So where do we stand? Because as politico, you had Adam Wren, who's about as smart a political reporter as in all of D.C. was out there. The political guys thought with everything going on, it's the lead story in playbook because they understand that this is an important story about where the country is. So what is happening now? It's gotta be nine zero, not eight to one. This is a litmus test of the maximalization, the maximalist strategy and also the Trump movement. So where are we on Monday Afternoon, after that great conference you had the other day, where do we stand?
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Alex DeGrasse
Well, Steve, thank you. It was amazing. And I'll tell you what, people were fired up. We surprised them with. Obviously, we beamed in the show from the stage and people went absolutely crazy. And it was hundreds of people, Steve, over 500 who showed up on a Saturday for essentially eight hours of working conferences and strategy sessions and some pump up stuff. And most importantly that we're pushing nine. Oh, Steve. And I think, I think the lead of the story obviously is that the grassroots is not going to take it anymore. Right? I mean, people, I mean, you have a senator, you have Brushewitz, you have major players saying, hey, least we can do here is move the ball forward for Charlie. I mean, people are expecting nothing less. I mean, you know, I think sort of reflecting on everything that went down, Charlie obviously would have wanted us to be there. And there was talk, people, some people were nervous and we understand, of course, and, and we decided obviously to press forward, to keep this ball moving forward because this is, this could, well, could determine everything. Obviously in the House, as we've spoken about at first, Steve, on the show, we were talking about eight, one, now we're obviously talking about nine. Oh, I think there is a lot of unknown. I think it's really important for Indiana for the posse to lock in calmly and positively communicate with your state representatives, with your state senators, educate them on what was discussed on the show. Maybe we can send out, we'll clip kind of our presentation and get that to certain Grayson folks, can kind of get it out to folks on your lists and whatever. Just because we, I, we had a conversation with three of the state representatives who kind of walk through the backroom deals and kind of what's at stake here. And I think people would be concerned. Of course, these state houses are very challenging with the establishment across the country. But Indiana certainly has, I think, some issues with the kind of Mitch, Daniel, Mike Pence. You know, it really is a big battle, tectonic battle for the direction of the party. So I think we need to push forward. This is so important, important for President Trump. Everyone's engaged here, so I'm optimistic, but we've got to just keep pushing because there's been no.
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Steve Bannon
Can you get us the information tomorrow? Yeah, exactly. That's no official movement. So can you get us, get us all the information and we'll put it up. We'll get you back on tomorrow because I want to flood the zone with the Warren posse and have people working the phones and working the system here. So if you do that for us, it was a great, is a great kickoff. And they now know that we're eight. One is not acceptable. It's got to be nine zero. And so we just need the information to make sure we can go back. And so the Warren posse is looking to go to work, looking to do something. You know, they're going to prayer visuals, they're honoring Charlie. In fact, something's happening in the House right now. We may cut to it in a few minutes. Another memorial for Charlie. But people want to take action. They want to support Charlie's work and drive the task and purpose of turning Point more forward. Before I let you go, because I know with Elise Stefanik, you're her chief strategist, what's happening, what's happening in New York? Because I've told people for a while that, you know, this guy was going to win the primary, he's going to be Cuomo. And now Adams looks like he may drop out as, as early as Friday. I'm not so sure it's going to make much of a difference. Kathy Hochul, the sitting governor of New York, endorsed Donnie today. Can you explain to folks throughout the country who I don't think quite have gotten it, and it's not the Warren Posse, they get it, but the media that watches this and the hedge fund guys how radical this guy is in the Working People's Party in the DSA and what's going to happen in New York when they win? Because right now they're on a glide path to not just win, but win big. Yeah.
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Alex DeGrasse
So, Steve, I think, I think you and I were the only two people that said Bom Dhommi was going to win. Certainly also Elise has been public with folks months before the primary saying, hey, this guy's going to win. He's got the momentum on the Democrat side and this is where the party's heading for a litany. I think the most important thing is, is Kathy Hochul, I mean, New York is one like, is like the crown jewel, Steve. Right. You got California, you got New York. That's like the two Democrat power centers. And then obviously the imperial capital to an extent as well. Of course, you know, the fact that she bent the knee to communism, to antisemitism, to this sort of jihadism, green alliance type of situation, it shows that the establishment is weak and they are kind of gutted from these kind of crazy people. And I mean, Steve, getting rid of private health care, government owned grocery stores, ending the police as we know it Getting rid of the gang database, importing more illegals, restricting ice, going against. I mean, just his mantra is crazy. And especially the Israel stuff. And there are a lot of anti Semitism issues on the ground in New York, and he also has a ton of support from liberal Jewish voters. So the whole thing is crazy. And I think the fact that she understood that facing a possible governor race with the least that she was worried about her left flank, Steve. Because these people are ruthless and they're going after the Kathy Hochuls of the world, Steve. I mean, these people are gearing up to devour their own. But we, you and I both said, we said everyone will bend the knee. The establishment, the Democrats, you know, some of the Wall street guys, yes, they're going to play ball, and that's what's happening. And some are panicking and they should. And I think Charlie Kirk and Elise was going through her tax and she posted this on X and Charlie Kirk texted her and he also published something, I think back in June or July and said, we can't give up on New York. It's so easy for people to say, hey, New York is gone. Let it destroy. No, I mean, New York is the financial capital of the world. You always. It, Steve. And really, New York is sort of the breach. It's sort of the beachhead for the far left. And once they kind of implant there, they move inward, they move across the country, whether it's bail reform, all the illegal sanctuary cities, it all started in New York and. Or California, unfortunately. So just as you've got this issue with California Newsom, we've got this issue in New York and we'll see how things develop. But the fact that Kathy Hochul has beat Hakeem Jeffries, Schumer, all of these guys, and endorsed, not just endorsed, I mean, went full out, said, he's great when you do Trump, blah, blah, blah, he's great. All. I mean, it's, it's really alarming. And people should be scared. People should be scared for what's coming from the modern Democrat Party, because the communists, the jihadists, I mean, this guy's funded Loxop and Barrel. You look at his family.
- [16:09]
Steve Bannon
He's a Marxist. But, yeah, well, this is, this is what's so important about designating right now antifa as a terrorist organization, because you spread out, you go to terrorist finance. We have no earthy idea. And I've said this from the very beginning, that guys called me up here and how do you defeat him? I said, listen, you got to get to back where this kid's money's coming from. You've got to do it and you have to do it now. You're not going to beat him with conventional weapons. You're not going to Curtis, Lewa and Adams are not going to drop out and magically Cuomo is going to win. Cuomo is not even running a race, right. He's Frank Skeffington in the last hurrah. This thing's over. And now you're seeing him bend in the knee. And more importantly, you're seeing the finance community and you're seeing big business bend the knee also. So about the money, though, this is why the terrorism designation is so important, because then you get into all these kind of groups, groups actblue and the sources and these other, these Arabella and all this other dark money that's coming in. As President Trump said, you know, Farah violations by billionaires taking money from foreign countries and putting it into this apparatus. Is that something you think it may be too late to stop the victory, but is that something eventually take this guy down?
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Alex DeGrasse
Well, I think it's huge, Steve. I think his connections with foreign sort of radical Islamic and absolutely, I stand by that as critical. On the sort of antifa Design Nation, it's clear from just based on what we know through public information about the shooting and sort of their network, I think, is very alarming. I think the RICO side of things that President Trump mentioned as well, and actually I think he's using, I think the information that, that he's working off of, because I know it's what I've seen and what's been publicly reported is sort of the money traced through the Working Families Party, you know, billions from Soros. It goes through nonprofits. It gets washed out with these limits. They're hiring staff. I mean, none of their stuff is. I mean, I think he kind of peaked and got some grassroots support. But a lot of this stuff is astroturf, highly coordinated, highly sort of manipulated on social media with the ccp, other foreign actors. So I think when you look at it holistically, look at the money, of course, you've got the antifa, the terrorism side of things in general, but you've also got this RICO sort of where they're funding all this violence and different things with Soros, and money's passing through nonprofits into political, you know, state parties and different things. And I think it's a huge issue. And I think, I mean, Mondavi is funded by California. He's funded by billionaires I mean that's the thing, Steve. I mean he's got a super pac. They're raising millions of dollars. I mean come on here. You know, money's pouring in. The Working Families Party spent millions of dollars. Soros has put in like $30 million into that entity over time. So I mean they know what they're doing and it's very sophisticated. It's not grassroots.
- [18:47]
Steve Bannon
George, George Will and these other bow tie, you know, Bill Buckley, National Review, the Salon conservatives said, oh well, it's socialism and let it fail. Hey, these are Marxist jihadists. When they get control, it's just like Sadiq Khan taking control of London. They ain't giving it up. And people should note that President Trump is making a state visit that he's wanted to make for a long time. They put out the schedule in detail. President Trump's going to leave tomorrow. He's going to go to Windsor. He's going to spend Tuesday night there. He's also going to have a whole array of ceremonies at Windsor Castle with the king of England, King Charles on Wednesday. Then he's going to go to Chequers, Winston Churchill's country home that he then gave donated to the ministers, I think it was to the prime ministers. He's going to stay there. Starmer, he's not going within, I don't know, 40 miles of London. Why? Because London has been radicalized. The President of the United States can't go to London. Tommy Robinson got over a million people of British working class, middle class people to show up. But Sadiq Khan has turned London into a no go zone. And when the president of the United States goes for a state visit and does not go to London, that should be a big tell to everybody because of security concerns. Alex, we'll get you on tomorrow. We got so much more to go through on nine zero in Indiana to. You're going to get some information, we're going to put it out. Where do people go to get you on your on your social media?
- [20:20]
Phil Lyman
Thanks.
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Alex DeGrasse
Even at the grass 81 on X Truth Getter, you know, keep an eye on New York and then if you're in Indiana, let's lock in. They'll have updates on the rest of the states as well because we got to keep driving that ship. So thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you brother. Okay, I want to play a clip. Michael Savage, this from the other day. A lot has changed since Michael Savage said this. I think a much more engaged FBI, the Department of Justice President Trump just said he could designate antifa is a domestic terrorist Organization or terrorist organization for an investigation. But I want to play this clip and bring Phil back in, because I think a lot of us have these questions that Mike Savage had. Let's go and play it.
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Michael Savage
Something's wrong. I know I shouldn't do this. I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the maga, FBI. Something's very wrong with what I just heard. I mean, I watched it. I was hoping that they had caught the bastard who shot Charlie. So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof. It looked very legitimate to me. However, there was no rifle in his hand. Now, the Mauser does not break down very easily. Incidentally, for those of you who know weapons, something's wrong with the whole thing. They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel and his pants, like, all in two seconds. It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate. We are not hearing or seeing reality. And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed. So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel and then he leaves it for us to find? The FBI to find. I don't believe a word of it. I shouldn't do this. I know I'm putting myself at risk, but I can't take it anymore. I can't take the. From this government. It's lying to us. Something's wrong. Something's so wrong, it's sickening. Look at this idiot. They found the rifle and they're getting the prints. Are you stupid? Are you that stupid? Are you that dumb? The man jumps off the roof. There's no rifle there. Oh, it's in his backpack. I just told you moron, that this rifle doesn't break down that easily. And then it's supposed to be reassembled while he's on the run. Wait, I'll stop now and reassemble it and leave it in the woods in a box, wrapped in a towel. He left breadcrumbs. Oh, and the trans anti. The trans stuff on the cartridges. Something is wrong with this whole picture. I am Persona non grata in this White House. I will tell you right now. Now, I flew with Donald Trump in Air Force One. I consider him close to me. I have not been able to get near him since this administration took hold. They have thrown me out. They've castigated, thrown me in the desert. They don't want me near them. They don't want real truth tellers. Sean Hanley.
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Steve Bannon
We got a couple. We got a couple. Okay. Okay, Phil, the FBI's official position, because I. Because Bassopic and I have gone through this thing a million times. Their official position on Mike Savage is that. And ask Grayson, Mo, and others on the team to go back and look again. They say that, oh, well, he actually has the gun. He drops the gun off the roof before he jumps. I go, what? I must have missed that. Talk to me. We got a couple minutes here. I'm going to hold you through the break. Just, you know the neighborhood, right? You're very familiar with Utah Valley University and the houses around it. You've seen a lot of these videos. What does Phil Limon say?
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Phil Lyman
Well, you know, when they say they throw it into the wooded area, you're saying, well, is it the wooded area there by the Howells or is it around by the Brodericks or around by the Steeles or which wooded area is it by the chicken coop? Is it. Did he climb the fence? You know, all of these things. So, yeah, it helps to have a little bit of lay of the land. But the video that I watched, that was the first thing. First of all, coming into the campus with his limp, I thought, there's not a.30 06 down that pant leg. And then when I saw the gun with the scope on, it's like, well, there's definitely not a. That's not down his pant leg. And then somebody said, well, maybe he assembled it on the roof. And just like Mike said, I know enough about guns. Know you. You can't even if you even bump the scope on an old.30 06 like that, you're going to be off. You couldn't take that apart, assemble it on the roof, and then take one shot and expect it to be anywhere near the target? And then so then taking, you know, jumping off the roof and then reassembling it again. It's the whole thing, actually. The more they try to explain it, the more it's like, this is not true. This is absolutely not true. And yeah, it does help to know the people and to talk. And you go and you visit with your relatives, and they're saying, yeah, well, this is the actual ring camera. And you look at the other neighbors and it's like, okay, something is not adding up. The other thing that kind of bugged me was that when they said that they used AI to enhance the picture of the suspect and I'm looking at the AI enhanced version of that. I was like, oh, that looks a lot more like Tyler Robinson than the original. In fact, it looks like two different people. I mean, honestly, all of it. Steve, by the end you're saying, I don't know what the truth is, but I do know that we're not being told the truth. And then there's other vehicles in the area. There's clearly.
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Steve Bannon
Hey, there's other communication going. Yeah, yeah, hang on one second. We're gonna take a break. We got Phil, alignment candidate for governor. I also want to talk about Cox and his responsibility here with the administration that is. I don't know, it's been out of control for a while. This is why he's the most anti trump governor of a red state in the country. And I don't know how he was selected to give all the presentation he gave in that long speech the other night when it seems to me the FBI and others, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel should have walked through the basic facts and he should have done the partnership thing anyway. Short commercial break. Dr. Thayer's also with us on antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. Short break. Back in a minute. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio recess. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N o N to 989-898 with an A rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers. Let Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today. Hey, we're human all Too human. I don't always eat healthy. You don't always eat healthy. That's why doctors created Field of Greens. A delicious glass of field of greens daily is like nutritional armor for your body. Each fruit and each vegetable was doctor selected for a specific health benefit. There's a heart health group, lungs and kidney groups, metabolism, even healthy weight. I love the energy boost I get with field of greens. But most of all I love the confidence that even if I have a cheat day or wait for it a burger, I can enjoy it guilt free because a field of greens it's the nutrition my body needs daily. And only field of greens makes you this better health promise. Your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me repeat that. Your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me get you started with my special discount. I got you 20% off your first order. Just use code Bannon B A N N o n@fieldofgreens.com that's code bannonfield of greens.com 20% off. And if your doctor doesn't know how healthy you look and feel, you get a full money back guarantee. PhilTagreens.com code Bannon do it today. Hey, I realize you got many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's the team at Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines of fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. Don't just take my word for it. Ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've made the switch and are now supporting causes they believe in. Simply by joining Patriot Mobile, switching is easier than ever. Activate in minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. Call 978 Patriot today or go to patriotmobile.com Bannon that's patriotmobile.com Bannon use the promo code Bannon for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972patriots and make the switch today.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
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Michael Savage
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Phil Lyman
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Steve Bannon
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Phil Lyman
Well, you've got the, you know, we've got the discord messages and then, oh, no, we don't have the discord messages. Oh, there were no discord messages. It's like, well, let's, which is it? Let's at least tell the truth here. And that's what has been lacking this whole time. And I don't want to get ahead of you on this, Steve, but you know, watching, I knew that Spencer Cox was not a fan of President Trump. I knew he was not a fan of Turning Point. And then people are texting me saying Spencer Cox dislikes Charlie Couric almost as much as he dislikes Trump. And then to see the, you know, my friend saying, my friend Charlie Kirk says this, and he says this. I mean, it's okay, but I don't want to disrupt, I don't want to disrupt the investigation. I don't want to disrupt the efforts. And I was so glad when you, when you brought up the hypocrisy there. When he gets on and says Charlie Klerk said some inflammatory things. I was talking to my wife and I said, yeah, Christ is king is what is most inflammatory. And that's what he said right before he was shot. Christ is king and God is overall, I mean, if that's inflammatory and it is in this world, then we know what we're talking about. We're talking about good versus evil. And that's, you know, you have to step forward. And that's what these kids, I mean, these kids are like flocking to Turning Point now. They're flocking to church. I've got, I've had many, many calls from college age kids saying I want to do something. They were inspired by Charlie Couric. And if I can just cut me off if I'm going too far. But one of the things that was really, really.
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Steve Bannon
No, it's great.
- [35:33]
Phil Lyman
Really, really present to me. I looked and I, and I saw and I thought, I didn't know the condition of Charlie Kirk, but I thought this, this is probably bad went down. When I got closer, I'm running to the kids and I was like, yeah, I saw what I saw. The tragedy of that was the 3,000 innocent children, mostly innocent children, college age kids, you know, young, young people who witnessed something really, really traumatic and that could go either way, you know, and God, God is going to do something with that. The, the, you know, the broken hearts that are, that are out there right now are producing miracles in the lives of these kids. So Charlie wanted to have a major impact on, on their lives. And he had a major impact, at least on the, on the kids that were there and so many others that are, that are looking at this. And, and so, so when you take a lion like, like a Charlie Kirk and Spencer Cox comes in with his little disparaging comments, the contrast, I think, is more than people can reconcile in their minds. And they're not giving Spencer Cox the benefit of the doubt, which they shouldn't, because it's dangerous. This is the thing about bad policy and bad government is it hurts people. It hurts people really badly. You end up with parents who are helping their kids to transition and supporting mental illness and support and things like that. And in Utah, where, you know, just if we were the first state out there with dei, embracing dei, you know, to the max, embracing illegal immigration. I love what President Trump's talking about, these RICO cases. I hope that we can get some of, somebody looking into some of the deals that were made here with, in Utah. And I'm not talking, I'm not talking uninformed. I've been in the legislature for six years. I was a county commissioner before that. This would be, these are the things that brought me into politics is to find out why do we make such bad decisions? Why does government make decisions that hurt the people that they're intended to serve? And this is the questions that I think this generation, when they call me and they say, hey, I wonder what I could do? I say, this is your time, this is your generation. The future is yours. And honestly, it's being delivered to them in a really profound, profound way. You know, we talk about, you know, we talk about the idea of reverence. Reverence is standing firm and, and it's, it's changing. And Utah has a. I think Utah has a problem with this. It's like, oh, you know, being kind, being agreeable. It's like, well, who are you kind to? Are you kind to the, to the downtrodden or you, are you kind to the people who are trying to dominate your friends and neighbors? It's like, stand up, speak up. This was, this was Charlie's whole message in it. It just resonated.
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Steve Bannon
To Cox. I called for an Investigation day because Cox was the most. He's more radical than. Except for his buddy Gerald Polis in Colorado and Newsom in California. He would be in the top five most radical governors in the country with his embrace of DEI and transgender. I remember today, I think he was doing a zoom call and talk about his pronouns. It's all fine. I mean, he's pushed this his. And I think his administration, you know, his wife Abby Cox is involved in this sel and the empathy crisis. They've goaded this on. This is why that whole part of it has got to be thoroughly investigated. We gotta get to the bottom. And today, Gateway pundit and then Naomi Wolf of Daily Cloud. As we're talking right here, they're putting up stories now on social media. It looks like there was certain accounts that knew something was gonna happen. This did not come as a surprise. It backs up Phil Lyman sitting there going, hey, a couple of girls dropped the F bomb. And they weren't afraid. They were kind of saying, hey, suckers, you know, F you. And there's some other people out there. Which normal human reaction, even from a warrior would be, I'm gonna get out of here for a minute until I see if this is gonna be a mass shooting. Regroup and then we'll think about it. People were sitting there after a bang like that. That sounds like gunfire, potentially like gunfire. And you see Charlie Kirk get hit. It means something. And I think you gotta get to the bottom of the entire apparatus that brought this up. And nobody in this audience right now, I will tell you, believes that this kid, until they're shown hard evidence, is actually the guy that pulled the trigger. Maybe he did, but the evidence here has got to be put forward because people think that there's something much darker going on here. Phil, we gotta bounce, but I wanna have you back on because of your knowledge of the. We'll go through the videotape maybe together, because it's very confusing. And this is why I've been advocating not just to designate a terrorist organization so you can get a serious investigation going, but. And don't treat it as a one off murder or an assassination, but also you gotta bring all the forces to bear here and we gotta get a timeline and you've gotta move with alacrity to make sure that this doesn't turn into some sort of like grassy knoll. Right, Right. As you just saying, hey, what far should you talk about? What would you talk about? Where do people go for your. For your social media, Phil? Where do people go to get You.
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Phil Lyman
I'm. I'm on X. Probably the best spot is on X. It's Phil Underscore Lyman. And, and that's where, I think that's where all of the discussion is happening. Yeah. And the, you know, just, just encouraging people to ask these questions. There's nothing wrong with asking a question of something that you observe. And we've been conditioned to, like, not even ask the question. And how dare you ask the question? It's like, well, just give an answer. And this is what I've gone through for so long in Utah is like, how dare you ask that question? Whether it's about elections or about immigration or about any water management or forest management or rain or any of the other climate issues, you cannot ask the question. And even as a legislator, when I would ask the question of like the lieutenant governor, can we look at voter rolls? Can we look at these things? The answer is not. You know, we'd rather not. It was like, how dare you. How dare you ask a question and question the government? In fact, that's what they said is don't question the government. Question the doubters and. Or doubt the doubters. And this is a different generation. We're living in a different time. And I'm excited about the reality that people are forced to confront, I guess.
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Steve Bannon
No, this is what Charlie Kirk. This is the legacy of one of the legacies of Charlie Kirk. Phil, thank you. I'll call you after the show and we'll get organized on this.
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Phil Lyman
Thank you. Thanks, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
If I can ask if we can pull, before I bring in there, can we get President Trump's just response to saying today, the terror organization, when that's ready, I'll bring in, like I said, Gateway pundit and then Naomi Wolf independently. They're coming. I talked to Poso last night. There was a lot of stuff in these Twitter feeds and others that look very suspicious. I think Andy Ngo, who's done a great job of tracking this one, the big A guy like a Nick Sorter, putting up great information all the time on X or on Twitter, was saying, and people were, hey, they got all these accounts. Some are being pulled down. But it seemed like it wasn't a surprise to them. Phil Lyman is a direct eyewitness right there in that thing in the building right next to him. The two young girls, two young college students, they're not running for their life. They're looking around at the Charlie Kirk at the turning point. People scrambling and Charlie shot. And they go in fu, just saying. And he said, there's Other groups that didn't look like they were shocked at all. And you had that one guy that said, oh, I was doing it to distract the shooter, which is a bald faced lie that's sitting up, jumping up and down, you know, acting like a goofball, like celebrating ought to get to the bottom of all of it. And like I said, discord. If the guys are in discord and they knew it and now they're saying the guy may have confessed. They're the moral equivalent. They're the exact equivalent of the Boston Marathon bombers, the younger guys, the ones still in prison, his roommates that for, you know, a couple of days did not turn, knew it was him as soon as the footage went up and failed to tell the police you're an accessory after the fact. So that's why this investigation, I hope, I know it's broadening out. And let me play this and we'll bring in Dr. Bradley Thayer.
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Phil Lyman
Let's go and play the clip given with all the. What's going on, Charlie Kirk's assassination and the left wing, a lot of left wing violence going on. Do you have plans and actually this is a great opportunity with all these. Do you plan on designating Antifa, finally a domestic terror organization?
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Steve Bannon
Well, it's something I would do, yeah, if I have support from the people back here. I think would start with Pam, I think. But I would, if you give me, I would do that 100%. And others also, by the way.
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Phil Lyman
But Antifa is terrible. Are there other groups that you can pick up?
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Steve Bannon
There are other groups, yeah, there are other groups. We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. And also I've been speaking to the attorney general about bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation. These aren't protests. When we have time, we'll play. We'll play more of it. We'll play more of it. He's talking right there about Portland, Oregon. Dr. Thayer, you helped us work through a lot of the issues over the weekend about exactly this topic. Tell us why. It's very important. The President says, hey, I'm open to do it. If the guys around me want to do it, I want to do it and I will do it. But why is it important for US On Monday the 15th of September, in the year of our Lord 2025, just a couple of days after the assassination in cold blood of Charlie Kirk, for us to do this, sir, to help this investigation?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Well, Steve, all Thanks to you, because you've been driving this hard as well. It's so important to take these steps first because it's the recognition of reality. Terrorism is the use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in pursuit of political goals. And that's what Antifa is doing, advancing their political objective of overthrowing the constitutional republic that is the United States, conducting assassinations, inspiring other individuals to act in similar ways. So this is a recognition of reality that Antifa is in fact a terrorist organization. Should have been done a long time ago. It's extremely important. It's being done now. Secondly, we now need to move into what is the counterterrorism strategy? What are we going to be doing? What are the tools that we're going to be employing against Antifa? And this has to be first, a whole of government response. It's going to require everybody who is in that room in the Oval Office this afternoon. It's also going to require the American citizenry, right, what's often called the whole of society response, to reject these guys, right, to reject Antifa, to recognize what they are. It's also going to require whole of government and whole of society. Because this is going to be like Schliemann excavating.
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Steve Bannon
Troy.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Right. You're going to have to go through layer after layer after layer of this stuff to find the international and the domestic connections that are certainly present there. International are going to be the ccp, Chinese Communist Party and other actors domestically. It's going to involve major Democratic donors and law firms and major actors in the Democratic Party as well. So it's going to require tremendous amounts of effort to do it. But it begins with this step and with the President's attention and direction to develop an effective counterterrorism strategy to roll these guys up as they need to be in order to remove their threat, but to remove equally the bigger threat of how the Chinese Communist Party, how other really nefarious actors internationally and domestically are using their influence, hiding behind Antifa, hiding behind front organizations to undermine our constitutional republic. Time to get this out in the open, to lift the rug, to find out what's underneath here and to begin dealing with it and cleaning it up. And as Tate stressed, remember from last week, right. When you begin to put pressure on this, you're going to be able to see that it is going to fracture, I think pretty clearly. But equally, it's going to be alarming to the American people to see how this occurred, how they were able to do it so effectively. And really the cavalcade of bad actors, evil actors who are behind Antifa and supporting it, allowing its recruitment, allowing its communication, directing it and providing its training.
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Steve Bannon
Dr. Thayer, we got to bounce. Where do people go? I know you've been writing about this and talking about this. Where do people go to get your thoughts on this topic?
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Steve? Everybody can reach me at Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer at getterandtruth. And thanks so much, Steve, for advancing this along.
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Steve Bannon
No, Dr. Thayer, the intellectual. You did the heavy intellectual lift. So thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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Dr. Bradley Thayer
Thanks, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Dr. Bradley Thayer. He's absolutely correct. And you got to get down to the layers. It's not the first level. They got to color code it. I got to. You know, I made a film about this. I made a film about this in 2012. Andrew Breitbart was actually the star of the film. Andrew Breitbart passed away during the production of the film, but we were able to finish it. And actually Mark Cuban's company, the Time distribution company, put it out. And it was about. Back then, the Occupy movement would metastasize into Antifa. Very dangerous. Andrew was an expert on this, as Charlie Kirk was. So quite ironic that, what, 13 years later, we're still dealing with this, but I think to get to the bottom of it, of who the most important layer is, the financiers, the politicians, the media types. There's going to be some media folks rounded up in this. Oh, yeah, wait for it. Wait for it. There's some media people up to their neck with this revolutionary activity of trying to essentially destroy the United States of America. And what they pulled off was the assassination of one of the most important people in the country, and particularly in politics, but in his generation, the leader of his generation and a guy who I think very potentially would have been a future president of the United States, they knew what they were doing when they assassinated Charlie Kirk. And he just heard an eyewitness. And now you got Gateway pundit. Others will be curating these stories overnight. Tomorrow, we're going to have much more detailed presentation of this, but there are a lot of people in that kind of radical transgender movement that were not that surprised, and some of this LGBTQ that were not surprised at all about what happened on September 10th in the year of our Lord 2025. So we'll get to all that want to thank Birch. Gold. Take your phone out right now. Text ABANDONED at 989-898. You get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. And with gold blowing through 3,700 bucks. Maybe it's time now that you understand that, you know, with central banks buying with BRICS nations trying to destroy the dollar, the de dollarization movement and maybe even with the CR that's got a couple trillion dollar deficit in it, it's time now to think it all through. You need to find out what gold has been a hedge for 5000 years. A financial hedge in times of turbulence for 5000 years. Also the folks at home title lock you get $1,000,000 triple lock protection. Hometitlelock.com Steve60 For 60 days you get home title lock to test it out for one buck. Go check it out. That's a no. That's a no brainer. Get to see. Don't. Every dream you've ever had is in that home. If you're lucky enough to own one, every dream you ever had and about 80 or 90% of your net worth, make sure some bad guy doesn't monetize it on you. Hometitleock.com Steve61 Buck for 60 days please. We're going to see you here tomorrow morning at 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time. I promise you this show will be on fire. See you then. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need Done with debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card in loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit DawnWithDeckcom talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today.