
WarRoom battleground EP 854: Trump Throws Down On Big Pharma; Americas Autism Epidemic cont. ...
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HHS Official
To meet the President's challenge, I ordered HHS to launch an unprecedented all agency effort to identify all cause of autism, including toxic and pharmaceutical exposures. At President Trump's urging, nih, fda, CDC and CMS are turning over every stone to identify the ideology of the autism epidemic and how patients and parents can prevent and reverse this alarming trend. We have broken down the traditional silos that have long separated these agencies and we have fast tracked research and guidance. Historically, NIH has focused almost solely on politically safe and entirely fruitless research out the genetic drivers of autism. That would be like studying the genetic drivers of lung cancer without looking at cigarettes. And that's what NIH has been doing for 20 years. As a result, we don't have an answer to this critical question. Despite the cataclysmic impact of the epidemic on our nation's children, we are now replacing the institutional culture of politicized science and corruption with evidence based medicine. NIH research teams are currently testing multiple hypotheses in no area off limits. We promise transparency as we uncover the potential causes and treatments and we will notify the public regularly of our progress. Today we are announcing two important findings from our autism work that are vital for parents to know as they make these decisions. First, HHS will act on acetaminophen. The FDA is responding to clinical and laboratory studies and suggests a potential association between acetaminophen used during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes, including later diagnosis for ADHD and autism. Scientists have proposed biological mechanisms linking prenatal acetaminophen exposure to altered brain development with. We have also evaluated the contrary studies that show no association. Today, the FDA will issue a physician's notice about the risk of acetaminophen during pregnancy and begin the process to initiate a safety label change. HHS will launch a nationwide public service campaign to inform families and protect public health.
Parent/Activist
I don't see it. I think it's very bad. They're pumping. It looks like they're pumping into a horse. You have a little child, little fragile child, and you get a VAT of 80 different vaccines, I guess 80 different blends and they pump it in. So ideally a woman won't take Tylenol. And on the vaccines it would be good. Instead of one visit where they pump the baby, load it up with stuff, you'll do it over a period of four times or five times. I was, I mean, I've been so into this issue for so many years just because I couldn't understand how, how a thing like this could happen and nothing bad can happen. It can only good happen. But with Tylenol, don't take it.
Steve Bannon
Don't take it.
Parent/Activist
And if you can't live, if your fever is so bad, you have to take one, because there's no alternative to that, sadly. First question, what can you take instead? It's actually, there's not an alternative to that. And as you know, other, other of the medicines are absolutely proven bad. I mean, they've been proven bad with the aspirins and the Advils and others. Right.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Welcome back for the 6 o' clock hour. Having been an observer and worked for President Trump for, I don't know, 10 or 12 years, that was one of the most intense, dramatic, important hours of his presidency. He told you that when he leaves office, eventually he wants this as one of his landmark achievements to get to the bottom of this epidemic or pandemic autism. And it was one from the heart. I mean, he is. I'm stunned by what we just saw, and I'm sure a big pharma in the corporate boardrooms right now with their lawyers and the maker of Tylenol is also stunned. I've got an incredible panel of Tony Lyons, Dr. Brian Hooker, Mary Holland, and I have Toby Rogers also. I got the four horsemen here. Tony, I want to start with you. You run the Maha and are very close to Bobby Kennedy. I mean, you and Mary and I all talk between the morning show and the afternoon getting ready for today. I am absolutely stunned. The President of the United States, there is no doubt he owns this 100%. And he said he's going to make it happen. This whole epidemic. Autism, he said, is going to stop on his watch, and he hopes to get results in the next three years. Your thoughts, sir?
Tony Lyons
I thought it was just incredible. I mean, Donald Trump should be called the Maha president. He's the autism president. He hit everything that he should have. It was just really incredible. His talk about not taking the Hep B vaccine till you're 12 years old, taking the MMR separately, each one separately, not taking vaccines that have mercury, that have aluminum in them, you know, just incredible. And, you know, there hasn't been anybody in a position of power who has done something like this, who's gone up against some of the most corrupt corporations in the history of the United States and just not cared, just not cared at all. Just wants to do the right thing for children, for parents, for everybody in this country. And we should all just be incredibly grateful for what he did today.
Steve Bannon
Mary Holland, you Could tell for the President, it was personal. He said he'd been dealing with this for 20, 25 years. He had known Bobby for 20 years. I was the one that set the meeting up after we won in 2016, when Bobby came up and the President said, hey, Bobby proposed a presidential commission on vaccines. President said, hey, go down to the lobby right now in front of the sticks and tell him his interaction with the parents, his talking about friends he had. I mean, this is personal. As you and I talk between the shows, he threw down so hard and actually took ownership of this. It is. It is absolute to me. It's absolutely stunning, ma'. Am.
Mary Holland
It is. I echo everything that Tony said. But what to me was so important, Steve, is he said, this is the number one thing I'm going to do. Nothing I do is more important. When I leave office, it should be 1 in 10,000 people, none in 20,000. This guy is staking his presidency on ending the autism epidemic. And he talked about vaccines. We knew that today was going to be about acetaminophen. We didn't know if he was actually going to touch on vaccines. And he was all over it. So it was an amazing, amazing speech.
Steve Bannon
By the way, you've dedicated your life's work to this. As you're listening, what do you think? Because you and I talked and look, we know that the report, they're still pulling it together. They've got the roundtable that we've now announced is going to be Thursday. Real America's Voice is going to cover it from noon to 5 o' clock at the Willard Hotel. We're going to have a pre game on it. We're going to have a post game on it. The war room will lead up to it, and then the afternoon war room will be at the conclusion. We know that's big. The report's coming out. But he went so many steps farther today. Like you said, he stepped into this and said, this is on my shoulders. Bobby Kennedy is my partner, but this is my shoulder and I am staking my presidency on it.
Mary Holland
Listen, he went so much farther than the advisory committee. And that what Bobby Kennedy did, he said, you know, not only is Mercury out, he said, aluminum's out. Aluminum is not out yet. Hep B. They're deliberating whether it's at one month or birth. He says, wait till age 12. It was remarkable, Steve. He really was talking from common sense and from the heart. And in many ways, I think he just, I'm happy to say he basically gave parents permission not to Vaccinate their kids and definitely not to take Tylenol.
Steve Bannon
Dr. Brian Hooker, do we have. You're on the roundtable. You're one of the panels. Do we have. Can this be backed up? You just heard Mary say here a couple of things in there were thrown in that, that we know people are pushing, but is the data there, is the evidence there? You had some pretty prominent people up there today backing this up. This was as united and coherent and cohesive and ordered as I've seen the White House on any topic. And as you know, Tony and Mary know, I've been number one a bitching and moaning about HHS in the comms. But today this went yard. But can we back it up? Or the pharmaceutical companies sitting in their boardrooms, are they laughing at us?
Dr. Brian Hooker
Absolutely not. All of the things that were said today regarding vaccines, regarding acetaminophen use are backed by science. You know, you look at mercury in vaccines, you look at aluminum and vaccines, you look at multivalent vaccines like the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine. All of that information that was given is backed directly by scientific content. It is independent researchers that have been doing the yeoman's work that have been doing the heavy lifting. But quite honestly, between Secretary Kennedy, Kennedy and President Trump, all the boxes were checked today. All of them were checked. And all of it, I believe, is supported by science.
Steve Bannon
Mary, I want to go back to Mary and then, Tony, I want you to jump in. We weren't, as we start the day, one of the reasons there was a level of frustration or concern given that the 28th was supposed to be the report day on autism that we're kind of targeting, and the fact that the, you know, the roadmap or the strategy came out and it was a little lighter than people thought. We thought today might just be Tylenol. Maybe it was a misdirection play. The president, this is the cut we played. He actually said, you have the precious little bodies sitting there and you have a VAT of 80, you know, 80 different blends or 80 different vaccines, and you can't do it. He says you can't do it. You should not do it. You can't do it. What I mean, how harder talking about vaccines and what, you know, we had Rand Paul's in the Senate the other day talking about that regimen that's gotten people so concerned about autism. You could not have someone come out and throw down harder, could we?
Mary Holland
No, Steve, there is no science behind the childhood schedule. But basically, that's what President Trump more Or less said. And he said, wait and space it out. And, you know, these precious children were pumping them with all these chemicals. And he's 100% right. There has never been adequate safety study, and that's what the real science shows. But pharma making trillions of dollars, has been lying to us for decades and decades. And for the president, backed by the whole HHS establishment, to basically say it's not what they're telling you, and you use your own judgment and wait, and there's no downside to waiting, and there's no downside to not taking Tylenol. That was so much more than we expected today. And I'm so grateful. I think all three of us as your guests are parents of children on the autism spectrum, young adults. And we want to see this end. We don't want to see any more children suffering in the way that our children have suffered.
Steve Bannon
Dr. Hooker, let me go to what Mary just said about the HHS establishment also. It was so impressive to have the doctors he had up there and have him come to the microphone. I mean, you know, the media and MSNBC and the New York Times and Big Pharma always puts us in a. You know, this is a collection of oddballs. This is a collection of wing nuts. This is conspiracy theory. Talk to me about the folks he brought to the microphone, which they were, boom, on point, coming with facts, and actually kind of blew everybody out of the water.
Dr. Brian Hooker
Absolutely. And these are luminaries of true science and individuals that really have put their careers on the line to tell the truth regarding the COVID vaccine, regarding the vaccine schedule regarding Covid countermeasures, individuals like Jay Bhattacharya, Dr. Oz and Marty Makary went out during the pandemic and spoke out, much to their detriment. And they were marginalized by the scientific establishment. But everything that they said today was so scientifically based and so based in just the method of inquiry, of really not having anything off limits, making sure that we go where the science shows us we need to go, rather than having any type of diktot or any type of boundaries to what the science says and what the science doesn't say. You know, this was one of the most scientific discussions I've ever seen from a group of policymakers. You know, I've been doing this for 25 years. You know, I was almost in tears the entire time. I'm an autism dad. I've waited for this for a long time. But again, so many things were accomplished here in this single announcement. In this single press conference. And again, the luminaries that were standing there are my heroes.
Steve Bannon
And this is President Trump's writing the breach. I mean, what to me was so stunning is he has taken, as Mary said, he says, I want this as my signature achievement of everything else he's doing to return America to her greatness. Everything on the borders, immigration, the economy, stopping seven wars, deserving the Nobel Peace Prize, all of it. This hits him personally more than any other issue I've ever seen. Tony, you're kind of the Maha guy I know. You had these meetings in D.C. all the time. The pushback you're gonna get from Big Pharma's not. I'm telling you, they're going to war right now. They're saying, okay, fine, this thing is Trump's crazier. I mean, trending right now on Twitter. The number one trend on Twitter is Dr. Trump. So they're coming. They're gonna come and they're gonna roll hard. What is Maha, the movement that you've put together? What's the punch back?
Tony Lyons
Yeah, so we have a weekly call with 3500 influencers every week, and we are going to just hit this hard week after week. I mean, Donald Trump said that he would empower Secretary Kennedy to take really bold, decisive action. And I don't think you can look at what happened today and think that it was anything short of the boldest and most decisive action that could be taken. And, you know, they also said this is the first of many of these kinds of press conferences. You know, that they've. We have seen that the administration really cares about doing real science. And they look and they see that the science that has been done for the last 20 or 30 years has been fake corporate science. And so we are getting gold standard science, total transparency, and we're going to make progress. And there are dozens of possibilities for all of the different chronic diseases, and they're going to do research into every last one of them. Follow the science wherever it leads. So this is real science, real answers. And everybody, Maha, the whole movement is celebrating, and everybody in America should be celebrating. I mean, these are historic changes.
Steve Bannon
Historic. What we saw yesterday was historic. This was historic. Different, different type of history, but historic. Particularly in this great battle against Big Pharma. Mary Holland, we talked between the shows and you said, hey, look, I like the way that they're doing this incrementally. I like the way we did the CDC about the, about the vaccine harm on the COVID You did the. You did the, you know, we did the conference and we covered it and streamed as much as could that these announcements this Thursday is another where they're doing a symposium right there at the Willard, right next to the Treasury Department in the White House. Walk us through that. Walk us through like this Thursday. And your whole theory of he's backing this up and none of us expected the boldness today, but he's backing this up by a very smart strategy of rolling out science to people that's irrefutable.
Mary Holland
Well, I'm thrilled that the Maha Institute is having this conference on autism this Thursday. As you said, you will be covering it and people should tune in because it's looking at every facet of the autism issue in this country and really worldwide. What's happened today for me, Steve, is the spell is broken. Literally. We've been living in this kind of omerta about autism for 30 years. And autism is really just toxin induced brain injury. And there's lots of different forms of brain injury, but it has these certain behavioral manifestations. The spell is broken. The president just said we're going to talk about it, we're going to study it, we're going to do the science and we're going to help people who are dealing with this and we're going to prevent it. And so the spell is broken. I think now the acceleration in this process is going to get faster and faster, or I pray it will, so that we really start talking about what is really happening. And as Trump said and as Bobby Kennedy said there 40 to 70% of mothers say that the regression happens after vaccination. And we know that the vast majority of cases of autism are happening in young children and it's after toxic exposures that include often Tylenol and vaccines. So I feel like we're on a trajectory and we've just got to, we the outsiders have to make sure that this, that we stay on this trajectory, that we stay on it, that the spell is broken and we're going to talk about it and we're going to do something about it.
Steve Bannon
Dr. Hooker to that about putting out data. I know you've got the report coming out. What should we look forward to? To, because tonight I believe msnbc, cnn, you know, Sanjay Gupta, all of them, they're coming and they're going to come hard on this. They can't. In the battle of information warfare, you cannot let the President of the United States go in the Roosevelt Room and throw down as hard as he just threw down on this entire issue and say we're going to talk about it. We're not, we're not going to be quiet about this anymore and not have them come back and try to overwhelm us. So what do you anticipate, just from the science side and releasing of data and more information that supports the case of Secretary Kennedy and the President of the United States?
Dr. Brian Hooker
Well, I would expect nothing less than just gold standard transparency. First of all, that's one of the hallmarks of this administration and of Secretary Kennedy's tenure is that they're being completely transparent about what they're doing. And they also want to be able to take the information, take the data and get it into the hands of independent scientists. You know, the, the, the things like the CDC's own private database, the Vaccine Safety Data Link, which three independent researchers over the tenure of 30 years of this vaccine safety data link have been admitted and then subsequently kicked out because of what they published. You know, these are the things that the administration is going to start to throw open so that independent scientists, so that individuals can crowdsource this information and we can put the best minds in the United States at work on these particular problems. You know, I think that we're going to see more and more toxins uncovered regarding autism, neurodevelopmental disabilities, other issues in chronic disease, autoimmune disorders. We're going to start to see more and more keys, not only prenatal exposure, but postnatal exposure. You know, one of the things that was so heartening about what President Trump said was that he was not just looking at prenatal Tylenol, but he was looking at postnatal use of Tylenol. And you could tell that, you know, he and Secretary Kennedy were reading the science because they, the science is very, very clear that the risk does not stop at birth. In fact, the risk actually gets worse at birth. So, you know, these were very, very encouraging statements, and I expect more and more of the same.
Steve Bannon
Tony Lyons, as the publisher, you've put forward so many books on these topics. We actually met and started working together when we had Bobby Kennedy on for the Fauci papers, which was unbelievable. And that's where we met you, through your good offices. Bobby Kennedy, you're now doing everything on Maha and making sure that Maha is organized. Where do people go to get additional information? Because I'm going to tell you, we're going to have a massive audience for Thursday. There are going to be so many people now, now that President Trump's saying, not just am I all in, but I'm going to have Bobby Kennedy's back. And if need to, I'll take leadership on this to make sure this happens in a signature result or accomplishment in my second term. So where do people go to find out all the information they're going to need?
Tony Lyons
Yeah, so one thing is we're publishing this book. It's called Forbidden Facts by Gavin de Becker, an incredible book that talks about a lot of these kinds of things. But people should also look at the facts that are out there. The vaccine Injury Compensation program has awarded billions of dollars to families of children who suffered injuries that resulted in symptoms that go into an autism diagnosis. So it's well established, it's out there, you can look it up and people really ought to do that. There are 2.3 million children in this country now who are diagnosed with autism. This is an epidemic. This is, you know, heart wrenching for millions of parents. And, you know, something had to be done. And today something really was done. People can go to mahaaction.com to see lots of things that we're doing. They can go to Children's Health Defense, you know, but this is an historic day. I've said it before and you know, we're following up with the MAHA Institute symposium that's going to look at autism, all the possible causes, talk to parents, talk to doctors. It's MAHA Institute us, you know, find out about it. It's Thursday. It's going to be a really great event.
Steve Bannon
We're going to push it out hard. Like I said, we're going to do a pregame right before 12 on the morning war room and we're going to do the post game wrap up at 5 o' clock when the conference ends over at the Willard Hotel. We're going to have real America's Voice. We're going to have the camera crews, all of it, hopefully livestream it and to have a couple reporters there. Tony, thank you so much, sir. Great day.
Tony Lyons
Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Mary Holland, Mary Holland, you folks at Children's Health Defense have worked many decades to get to this day, have you not?
Mary Holland
We have indeed. And as Tony said, childrenshealthdefense.org has a lot of information about autism, has a lot of information about vaccines, has information about Tylenol, acetaminophen. Childrenshealthdefense.org and on X it's Childrenshd, please. And we also will be broadcasting this symposium. Come to children's. We have CHD TV. We go out every day streaming at 10am Eastern.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, ma'. Am. Appreciate you. And the Folks over at Children's Health Defense and Children's Health Defense tv, which is fantastic. Know some of the people directly involved there. Just great. Dr. Brian Hooker, your closing thoughts for today. Sir, and your social media so people can follow you.
Dr. Brian Hooker
I've never seen anything like this in my 25 years as a researcher and as an autism dad. You know, there was so much headway that was made that, you know, and it seemed like over this time period, instead it's been giving up ground, giving up more ground, giving up more of our scientific veracity to the pharmaceutical industrial complex. And so much was reversed today. I couldn't be more encouraged by the words of President Trump, by the words of Secretary Kennedy, by the other administrators that are there. It is truly an exciting day and we have an exciting future. You can follow me at brianhookerphd on Instagram, on Twitter, and then Also Brian Hooker, PhD on Facebook.
Steve Bannon
Sir, we'll see you on Thursday. Look forward to it.
Dr. Brian Hooker
I look forward to it as well. We'll see you soon.
Steve Bannon
Dr. Brian Hooker, people involved in this, you see the heart rendering the heart wrenching. First person accounts by the, by the moms. That's as personal as you will ever see. Donald Trump is unbelievable. I was not expecting this. I wasn't expecting it today, I'll be honest. We talked about this. I talked about Tony, I talked to Mary Holland. We were very prepared for this, for Tylenol and then the process going forward with the seminar on Thursday or the symposium and then the report. Eventually, the president of the United States did something that no other politician, cultural leader, societal leader. He stepped into the breach of something that no one's wanted to really talk about. And to try to talk about it against the apparatus. They try to make you a bad person. Virtually every person I've met in this endeavor has a child. It all starts with a child. A child that was perfect. And then autism hit. And the care and the love they have for these children are unbelievable. And the children being so precious, it is personal. President Trump, breathtaking short commercial break. Back in a moment.
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Maureen Bannon
Actually is a Turning Point action shirt. I purchased it at SASS to support Turning Point, but it says Make America healthy Again. That's something that Charlie was very passionate about as well. And today, when President Trump said spoke, he reiterated numerous times for pregnant women, do not take Tylenol and do not give Tylenol or baby Tylenol to your infant children. It's making them sick. We clearly see that there's a link between Tylenol and autism. We need to go the healthier route in this country. Instead of Big Pharma pushing medicine down our throat to make us sicker.
Steve Bannon
Okay, I just want to give a caveat there. Maureen is just repeating lawyers for Big Pharma. Ben is just repeating what the president just said in the Roosevelt Room because I'm telling you, they're going to come hard this way. Listen, we had the warriors of Tony Lyons and Mary Holland and Dr. The thing I want to go back and say, these folks that have dedicated so much of their time, so much of their life in this situation, situation, have children that have autism. And that is such a driving force when you meet them. And that's why today, Mo, it was just so. I mean, you see why people love Donald Trump. You just see why they love Donald Trump. He was as off the chain as I've ever trending as Dr. Trump, right? He went full Marcus Welby on us. I mean, it was incredible. And this shows you the heart of the guy. He's got the heart of a lion and he ain't backing down on this fight. Folks understand something. This thing's going to get to the 10th power now because they're going to come after Trump, not just Bobby Kennedy and the team, which the team was extraordinary. They're coming after Trump. Mo, what is. You've been there, we still have over the weekend. And since we've been talking to people there, we had Nick Sorter on the other day. We've had other folks over there, Ben Berkwam. It's been an incredible, almost like a pilgrimage of people coming to see, particularly outside the gates, these homages to Charlie Kirk and to Turning Point. What's it been like today on the day after that historic event which you can just say the Holy Spirit was in the football stadium in Glendale, Arizona, Ma', am.
Maureen Bannon
There'S still a flood of people here. You know, earlier in the morning, it was a little more crowded, but there's still a consistent amount of people here paying their respects to a man many of them did not have the chance to meet. But he inspired them to get involved, to go to church, to get involved in politics, to save this country. And it's truly inspiring to see how many people are out here just dropping off flowers or posters or pictures that they painted or drew, just paying their respects to this amazing man that gave her his life for this country.
Steve Bannon
You know, Turning Point just announced a little while ago. I think that they're going to continue, and Erica has been adamant that the tour is going to continue. I think they've announced that Michael Knowles is going to be out there next week. I think Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson signed up in a couple weeks from Indianapolis. Tell me about that.
Maureen Bannon
So the tour actually starts back tonight there in Minnesota tonight with Michael Knowles and then Virginia Tech with Megyn Kelly and Governor Glenn Youngkin later this week. But they're not, they're not slowing down. They're getting back to work. That was Charlie's saying. That's one of Charlie's many sayings, is, okay, get back to work. So they're getting back to work. Everyone honored and paid their respects to Charlie yesterday in that great memorial. And first thing Monday morning, back to work. So they're kicking off the tour already.
Steve Bannon
Mo give us your didn't have much time because you were down the floor meeting people, et cetera, networking. You've been a speaker at a lot of the student action summits and a lot of the women's conferences that Charlie put on. What was your assessment, as you've had a chance to think about, what was your assessment from yesterday?
Maureen Bannon
I think yesterday was amazing. I think that it was great to see everyone come together. And Charlie would say that he wanted to make heaven crowded. And we saw that yesterday. I mean, I saw people around me that had not given their life to Jesus yet. And when Pastor Rob McCoy asked them to stand up if people wanted to give their life to Jesus, people around me did. So I think it was just very inspiring and I'm very grateful for all of the opportunities that Charlie gave me to speak at all the conferences, because the mission is still the same. Even though we are missing Charlie, the mission is still the same. We're going to pick up the mic and continue the fight for him, and we're going to continue it and make this country greater than it's ever been, and we're going to save this country republic.
Steve Bannon
Tell you one thing, Charlie inspired that with all the action and all the people at Turning Point, just, it's a great organization built around a great man, a good and decent man. Mo Bannon, your social media, thank you so much for taking time and doing this for us and coming on.
Maureen Bannon
Thank you. And I want to say one last thing. I saw this, you know, in the few days after Charlie's assassination that a lot of people have said that Charlie either connected them to their spouses or their friends. If it weren't for Charlie, a lot of the friends in my life I would not have because I met them at Turning Point events. So I am grateful to Charlie for many things, but some of my friendships, I'm extremely grateful to him for. You can follow me on Twitter and get her MaureenBannon and also at Instagram, eelmaureenbannon.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, girl. Great going. Let the folks at Turning Point know anything they need. Love that organization. Every day we pitch the, we pitch the show to them. Another great show today. Benny Johnson doesn't get better than Benny, man. Was his speech yesterday incredible as all of them were in their own different way. That's what I loved about it. They were all different, but they're all great. I've asked Sheila Matthews, I've reached out to Sheila Matthews because, Sheila, I know that you take this from a, a different angle than the Children's Health Defense people, but you've been such an advocate about this, about what big pharma is doing to children, right? In particular, I guess girls, but definitely young boys. This message that President Trump had today, just a fire breathing message, what was your takeaway and how did it impact you?
Sheila Matthews
Oh my God, it was amazing. What he did was amazing. The first time in history a president of the United States addressed parents concerns and so able child on informed consent regarding psychiatric drugs. We've been advocating that ADHD is a checklist, that there's no science behind it. And to have the President of the United States simply state that it does not exist is amazing to me. Comparing it to the Amish community where they don't have adhd, breathtaking. And you know Mary from Children's Health Defense, I know her work, we're not on the vaccinations, but I truly believe that it's an informed consent issue with parents. I was a little worried that they were going to be blaming Tylenol for the vaccine injured. I think that's still a concern. But my issue was just blown up this afternoon. It is amazing because parents are not told that it's a checklist of behaviors, that there's no science, no blood tests, no brain scans. So what he said was amazing, you know, absolutely stunning because this has been going on through presidencies, you know, so it's stunning what he said today. And Bobby Kennedy's work is great. And even the mother who said that the spectrum itself is an issue because. And then President Trump went into, yeah, there's no, there's no beginning and no end. So you're lumping all these children into the diagnosis of autism when in fact that it's too broad and then we're not really addressing and helping the children that actually need the help. So I was blown away. Absolutely blown away.
Steve Bannon
You fought just, you have gone up against the big pharma and the psych, this, the psychiatry industry, there is so much money involved here, right? So much money involved here. And the powers and forces in D.C. are so overwhelming. Like you said, you've had presidents. You like, some really strong presidents. No one's ever taken on Big Pharma. And today, I mean, look, we keep pretty close to the President Trump's agenda. And we had talked about this. A lot of people were not excited about this, particularly the way it was leaked about Tylenol that much. It was afraid that, you know, Tylenol was just going to be used as something to avoid everything else. And he went the exact opposite. Given your fight against these forces that are relentless, I mean, how do you describe a man that would go in there and do that and actually said, I'm going to stake my presidency on this?
Sheila Matthews
That is amazing. Because what he's doing is he's really, you don't have a country if your children aren't healthy. And he's seeing the bigger picture. Bobby is. I don't mean to call him Bobby, the Secretary of State. I've never met him. I'd be delighted to meet him. But I'm really blown away about the courage to stand up to the industry. I testify on behavioral health oversight committees here in Connecticut. I testified on. They cut my mic off. They kick people out that disagree with them. They are the cult. Because when you limit yourself to only people who agree with you, you're not really having freedom of speech. So the industry is controlled in every state. Parents don't have the time to go to D.C. and lobby. Parents don't have the time to fight big Pharma. And, you know, it's brave people like President Trump that can stand up against pharma. I mean, we spend more on pharma in a country than our military. You know, it's. Pharma is in our schools, in our churches, in everywhere. This collaboration of behavioral health vendors and investors. And, you know, they squeeze in. We just have a piece on Joe Hoff that's on the state of Tennessee where a board of education has kicked out, voted to kick out a behavioral health provider. And they're coming hard for them. You know, they suspended the meeting. They're going to readdress it and, you know, it's. This is forced psychiatry. And drug companies. All we want as parents is informed consent. Tell us all the information, the bad side effects, the good. We can make our own decisions. We don't need our governments to have a relationship with pharma so strong that we don't have a country anymore. And that's what I see. I see this collaboration between pharma and our government and there's no room for parents. And this is killing our kids. We had the school shootings and the assassination attempts, and now this assassination. And Able Child is strongly involved in lining up the links. And it comes down to what the parents are being told and what they're giving their kids. And we have to do something. So I'm amazed. I am just so blown away. I've been calling people that have been working on this issue for years, and they are going to come for everybody. Steve, on this issue about the president saying that ADHD doesn't exist. So I would say I support that 100%. It's a checklist and it's made up by psychiatry.
Steve Bannon
In fact, the. What was it? The Associated Press has already had a. Associated Press has already put out their headline, Associated Press Trump promotes unproven ties between Tylenol vaccines and autism without new evidence, of course, the opening salvo is going to get tough. Sheila, you're pretty tough yourself. Where do people go to find out.
Sheila Matthews
More about Able child who are ablechild.org we have a petition. Please sign it. It's on the dropdown menu. We're looking for federal hearings on the link between psychiatric drugs and violence. Critical that we have that. And also Joe Hoff has my article running about the Tennessee School board. Let's support them because that's where our voices need to be heard. So thank you, Steve. It's just so amazing today.
Maureen Bannon
I cannot tell you I'm thrilled.
Steve Bannon
No, incredible. Here's what the people I know, people like yourself, been working on this for years and years and sometimes decades today, they were almost too choked up to talk to. Come on the show. People were saying, I'm so blown away by just what I just saw. And I said, hey, we had planned it and it kind of. We were looking for to be disappointed. And it was to the heart of it. It's everything that everybody could imagine that you would want the president to step in and say, as only Donald Trump can say. And I think that's why people love the guy so much. Anyway, Sheila, thank you so much, ma', am, and look forward to having you back on.
Sheila Matthews
Okay, great. Thank you, Steve.
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Title: Trump Throws Down On Big Pharma; America’s Autism Epidemic cont.
Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Guests: Tony Lyons (MAHA movement), Dr. Brian Hooker, Mary Holland (Children’s Health Defense), Toby Rogers, Maureen Bannon, Sheila Matthews (Able Child), Parent/Activist
This episode centers on President Trump’s forceful new initiative targeting the causes of America’s autism epidemic, with a particular focus on pharmaceutical and toxic exposures—including acetaminophen (Tylenol) and childhood vaccination schedules. The discussion unpacks the historic press conference in which Trump vowed to make solving autism his signature legacy, and his administration’s bold steps to prioritize independent science, agency transparency, and direct action against pharmaceutical giants.
A panel of activists, scientists, and advocates respond to the policy revelations, discuss the broader cultural implications, and preview upcoming critical events, including an MAHA-backed symposium.
(00:12–02:46)
Quote:
“Historically, NIH has focused almost solely on politically safe and entirely fruitless research... That would be like studying the genetic drivers of lung cancer without looking at cigarettes.”
—HHS Official (00:41)
(04:00, 06:12, 06:48, 13:57)
Quote:
“He says, wait until [for Hep B] age 12. It was remarkable, Steve. He was really talking from common sense and from the heart... I think he just, I’m happy to say he basically gave parents permission not to vaccinate their kids and definitely not to take Tylenol.”
—Mary Holland (07:59)
(16:07, 16:53, 21:47, 23:46)
(12:30, 13:57, 24:34, 41:38, 44:32)
Quote:
“I’ve never seen anything like this in my 25 years as a researcher and as an autism dad. So much was reversed today. I couldn’t be more encouraged… It is truly an exciting day and we have an exciting future.”
—Dr. Brian Hooker (24:34)
(34:48, 38:04, 41:38, 44:32)
“Donald Trump should be called the Maha president. He’s the autism president.”
—Tony Lyons (05:18)
“He said, this is the number one thing I’m going to do. Nothing I do is more important.”
—Mary Holland (06:48)
“There’s no science behind the childhood schedule. And basically, that’s what President Trump more or less said...”
—Mary Holland (10:59)
“All of the things... are backed by science... This was as united and coherent and cohesive and ordered as I’ve seen the White House on any topic.”
—Dr. Brian Hooker (09:14)
“These are historic changes. What we saw yesterday was historic. This was historic. Different, different type of history, but historic.”
—Steve Bannon (16:07)
“We’ve been living in this kind of omerta about autism for 30 years. The spell is broken.”
—Mary Holland (16:53)
”What [Trump] did was amazing. The first time in history a president of the United States addressed parents' concerns … The courage to stand up to the industry...”
—Sheila Matthews (41:38, 44:32)
This War Room episode captured a defining moment for advocates on autism, vaccine safety, and parental rights. Trump’s explicit challenge to Big Pharma and his pledge to “end the autism epidemic” establishes a new tone—one of confrontation, transparency, and rapid policy action. The expert panel expressed unanimous astonishment and hope, underscoring the gravity of the announcement and the potential for historic change. Listeners were urged to tune in Thursday for the MAHA Institute autism symposium for further data and strategy discussion.
Resources:
Follow-up Event:
MAHA Institute Autism Symposium
For the Movement:
“This is real science, real answers... and everybody in America should be celebrating. These are historic changes.” (Tony Lyons, 14:51)